March 11, 2022 • 37 mins
Jussie Smollett outburst at sentencing for race hoax, social media never took down inaccurate Biden, Harris tweets in favor of Smollett. Clay and Buck say this just created a greater racial divide than there already was in the race victim-obsessed media and nation. March 11th, 2020: The day covid exploded on the scene, NBA game in Oklahoma City was cancelled, starting the lockdown. Biden announces new sanctions on Russia, but what about the planes to Ukraine? White House briefs TikTok stars on Ukraine. March 11th: The day the covid lockdown began. Clay thinks they'll do a documentary called "March 11, 2020" one day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
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President Biden addressed the country, addressed the world this morning
on the issue of Ukraine provoking Most Favored Nations status
with Russian We're gonna dive into all of the latest
on the Ukraine later on in this hour, I'm gonna
have a conversation with our friend Stephen Yates, former deputy
National Security advisor to Victor Dick Cheney, Vice President Cheney
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under the Bush administration. We're gonna talk to him a
bit about this issue. And then later on third hour,
as we have promised you all along, part of our
mission here is we're not going to allow this pretend
that COVID mandates and lockdowns and mask policies didn't happen.
Thing that the Democrats seem to be trying right now.
We're not just going to walk away from this. There's
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still things happening. There's still data to crunch. There's still
numbers to look at, and we will certainly be doing
all of that with you in the third hour, with
Alex Barrens and joining us and doctor Joseph Latipo, the
surgeon General for the State of Florida. So a lot
of COVID deep dive coming your way in the and
it's really mandate and lockdown deep dive coming your way
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in the third hour, So get ready for that. We
have the end. It seems of a long running saga
though that Clay and I wanted to address with you
for a moment here the Jesse small At case has
finally come to a judicial conclusion. Jesse small ET's gonna
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spend over one hundred days in prison. We are gonna
take a look at whether that's a fair sentence or not,
just momentarily. But here is what Remember this Jesse small At.
The guys yelled, this is Maga country, and they poured
bleach on him and put a noose around his neck.
And then he walked home with the new still on
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because he was getting a sandwich on the streets of
Chicago at two o'clock in the morning, in the middle
of winter. It was like thirty degrees outside and two
guys wearing Maga hats or yelling this is Maga country
or whatever. He made it up so it doesn't even matter. Yeah,
and the Democrats, including Kamala Harris and Joe Biden themselves
freaked out about this national news story. Big deal. Here
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is the judge saying, yeah, you're a liar and you're
going to prison. I'm fashioning the following sentence. And here's
your sentence, the sentence seeing you to thirty months stell
any probation, and the probation is going to be to disquarter.
You're gonna be allowed to travel wherever you want. You
do not have to live in the state of Illinois.
He can report by phone. I know that if you're
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going to try to make a living and do some
of the things you do, you may have to go
to other places in New York and last you can
do those things. You will pay restitution to the City
Chicago the amount of one hundred twenty one hundred six dollars.
You are fined twenty five thousand dollars, which is the
maximum behind and you will spend the first one hundred
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and fifty days of your sentence in the Cook County jail,
and that will start today, right here, right now, Clay,
is this justice? No? I look, I am glad that
the judge put him in jail for at least one
hundred and fifty days five months whatever the map is there,
six months, depending on how exactly you classify it. But
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I wanted, if you remember we talked about this, I
wanted him to get years in prison, and that would
have been in a very aggressive sentence. But I believe
what he did, the way that he preyed upon American
media's obsession with race and victimization of race, and the
degree to which he created further division at a time
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of great division in this country, the consequences should have
been more significant than they were. I do appreciate the
fact that he's going to have to go to Cook
County jail. I think leading him out effectively in handcuffs
was significant. And even hearing Jesse Smallett, he tried to
throw up. Did you see the black power fist as
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he walked out. Listen to Jesse who immediately says, I'm
not suicidal. I'm not suicidal, which, by the way, sounds
super strange because it sounds like something someone would say
if they were not mentally stable, listen to this. I
am not suicidal. Okay, I am not suicidal. I am infant,
and I am not suicidal. If I did this didn't
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mean that I subbed my fist in the fears of
Black Americans in the suicion, but over four bunch of
years and the fears of the LGBTQ community your mine.
I respect you, and I respect the church. But I
did not do this, and I am not suicidal. And
if anything happens to me when I believe I did
not do it to myself and you must oh click.
And I just is it more offensive that he's claiming
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to be a civil rights hero or that he's still
saying he didn't do it? I'm just well, like, which
one to you is more mind blowing? Well, both of
them are equal parts offensive. And if I were a
judge on some level, when he started to say I
didn't do it, I would say, well, you are still
not taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions. So
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upon further reflection, I am going to double your sentence
and you are now going to spend a full year
in prison like I wish, because look, part of deciding
what the penalty is is analyzing whether there is in
any way some degree of acknowledgement of wrongdoing right, whether
there is a form of remorse, whether you are apologizing
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for your actions and acknowledging them. And when Jesse Smalleett
is still saying I didn't do this, he is lying.
He is delusional. And the fact that he throws up
the Black Power fit as he walks out as if
he is some sort of martyr makes me want to
put him in prison for longer. And look the other
thing I would say here, Buck, and I think this
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is super significant. We hear all the time about how
big tech is trying to make sure that the truth
is out there. You know what's going on right now.
Kamala Harris tweeted this, and I think it's important to
constantly because this ties in with what Jesse Smallett was doing.
He wasn't crazy in the way that he diagnosed and
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recognized that if he were the victim of a crime
like this, it would be the best thing that ever
happened to his career. And what I would tell everybody
out there is be skeptical whenever something you don't control
happens to you, and it's the greatest thing that could
ever happen to you. Right, the best thing that could
ever happen to Jesse Smallett's career was that he was
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a victim of an attempted assault like this. Because it
makes him a victim, it makes him more well known.
And here's what Kamala Harris said, Buck, Jesse Smalett is
one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know.
I'm praying for his quick recovery. These are still up
these tweets, Buck, this is Kamala. This was an attempted
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modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for
their life because of their sexuality or the color of
their skin. We must confront this hate, no acknowledgement. Buck,
You and I are getting tagged all the time. Anytime
we say masks don't work, Twitter police immediately show up
and try to give greater characterization of that. That's still up.
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There's no note on it about how it's not true.
Joe Biden tweeted what happened today to Jesse Smalette must
never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up.
We must stand up and demand we no longer give
this hate safe harbor, that homophobia and racism have no
place on our streets or in our hearts. We are
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with you, Jesse. These are still up. They're still up,
and there's a reason for it. The price that you
have to be willing to pay for wokeness is looking
like a fool. That's actually part of the obedience that
is demanded of the woke. Perfect example, men can get pregnant.
You have to say that. You sound like a moron
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when you say it, right, But if you're gonna be woke,
you gotta say men can get pregnant. And with Jessie,
it didn't matter to the people who said it that
it was all a lie. They were expected to say
it in the moment, and they did. The leftist hive
mind doesn't care about what's true. By the way, same
with masking and all these other things we talk about.
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You are expected to be a part of the collective.
You're expected to say what you're supposed to say in
the moment, and no one therefore afterwards on the left
will fault you for it because yeah, that was It's
almost like Biden and common or under orders. There is
an identity politics narrative here there's an opportunity to bash
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what was this really about Donald Trump? All the white nationalism? Yeah,
all the stuff that they had all the media been. Oh,
here's the perfect case study of Trump's white nationalism and
the destruction of the country it's created. The fact that
it was a lie doesn't matter at all. The only
problem from the perspective of Biden and Harris is that
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it was so sloppy that anybody with an IQ above
that of a toaster not only knows now Clay, but
really knew pretty much right away. I mean, I understand
you never want to be caught in that one outlier
of like, I guess this happened thing, But I mean,
I go, I've gone back and looked at my record
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on this one first week of the Jesse Smallette case.
I'm like, this guy's lying. It was so obvious. I
know you saw it is lying too. And do any
of the blue checks who got it wrong feel embarrassed, No,
not at all. They did their part. Not only do
they not feel embarrassed, they're not even taking down clearly
an accurate tweet. But all these social media sites they
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aim to care about misinformation and disinformation, they don't even
append an acknowledgement. Hey, by the way, this was a
total why Like I would be shamed into taking down
the tweet if I believe I were Kamala or Joe Biden.
I also wouldn't anticipate that this is true the moment
you hear it again. I would just say this for everybody.
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Any time a story like this happens and you go
back and you're like, man, would being a victim of
a crime like this be the greatest thing that could
happen to anybody's career. If the answer is yes, then
we should be skeptical that happened. I'll give you an example. Buck,
if you came in and you were like, hey, I mean, well,
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let's take up a bunch of soy latte drinkers who
have Chris Hayes t shirts on just happen to try
to try to, you know, slap fight me in front
of the radio studio. You know you would know, right.
I was just gonna say, take it outside of the
world of like race crimes and hoaxes and everything else.
If your buddy, who usually had trouble picking up girls,
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if if he came to you and he said, hey,
you're never gonna believe what happened to me last night.
I was just out at our normal bar. It was
Tuesday night, and uh, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow walked in
or whoever you want to be, you know, likes hot.
You know that your buddy may like, Okay, who's the
hottest girl you can think of? Right now? I don't
even know. It used to be there were maxim girls
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or Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover girls. Now there's like a
billion of them on Instagram, and so I can't even
keep up with you know, like Pamela Anderson. If you're
around my age, people will be like, oh, Pamela Anderson,
incredibly attractive Denise Richards back in the day. Like I
feel like there are so many Instagram models now that
it's even hard to keep up with who the famous
ones are. So give me a give me a widely renowned,
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incredibly good looking woman. Doesn't hard, right, Just just go
with the story. Yeah, so and he said, and this,
and she hooked up with me. She came over to me,
she was like, hey, let me buy a beer. Hey,
do you guys you want to go? Do you want
to hang out? Do you want to come back? To
my place. You would say, you know what, whatever your
buddy's name is, I don't think i'd buy this story. Right,
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Maybe it's possible that supermodels show up at this random
bar that you, who usually have trouble picking up any girls,
suddenly get picked up by this girl who's super famous
and everybody wants to be with. And you guys went
back to her place, like you wouldn't believe it, right,
That would be the best thing that could ever happen
to that guy, whoever the girl is that he's in
love with. Why would you believe Jesse Smollett when for
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his life, that's the best thing they could ever happen
to him, And so be skeptical. And you would be skeptical,
And I would be skeptical of your buddy who's trying
to tell you this story. And by the way, it
might happen one in a million times that something like
this could occur, and you would still never believe. But
I just throw out there to Clay on the skepticism
point here, Jose's small at from what he said his
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imaginary attackers and as we know, it was actually the
two Nigerian brothers and it was all stage but the
imaginationship with sexually, which is even crazier the imaginary MAGA supporters.
He talked about, it's as though Jesse Smallett had never
met a Trump voter, because there is not a Trump
voter in the entirety of the United States of America.
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Who on the streets of Chicago at two o'clock in
the morning or one o'clock in the morning would yale
this is Maga country. Well that was how about know
who Jesse Smallt is and know what his sexuality is? Like?
How many Donald Trump supporters watch Empire know who Jesse
small At is and then on top of that, know
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what his sexuality is? Like I didn't even know who
Jesse small At was. I don't watch Empire. I can't
that there's like four people who voted for Donald Trump
and even fit that like if you kept doing the
bid diagram. They were wandering around this streets of Chicago
news yea, allegedly just like trying to find it is
the coldest night of the year I think in Chicago,
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just on the possible off chance that they were going
to run into Jesse Smollett. I mean, it's it's just
a few steps away folks from Jesse. Smollett said, little
green men came out of a spacecraft wearing Trump hats
and they attacked me. I mean, it's just completely nonsensical.
And the sitting president and sitting vice president and ninety
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five percent of blue check news media were like, oh
my gosh, this is an atrocity. By the way, I'm
really disappointed that I can't even come up with a
girl like. That's the world we live in now. Everybody's
on Instagram back to my child, like my like you know,
teen crush was because she was my age on Seventh Heaven.
Remember that show, Jessica Biale. That was all Jessica Bill
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was great, Yeah, Jessica Bill. Back in the day, Britney Spears,
Christina Aguilera, there were all these girls you could point to.
I don't even know who the girl, Like, if you
were twenty four right now, who do you point to?
I'm not even sure the answer. I mean, I'm too
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We have got a loaded program for you today as
we roll into the weekend. I am back down in
the Free State of Florida, and I wanted to spice
in Buck and Eye did a few of the different
stories that two years ago began to happen on March
the eleventh, which was the oh my goodness, everything is
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falling apart with COVID. Almost simultaneously on March the eleventh,
I feel like they'll do a documentary called March the eleventh,
twenty twenty one day. And this is when it started
to really become an issue for a lot of people.
Do you remember Oklahoma City was getting ready to play
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against the Utah Jazz when Rudy Gobert tested positive for
COVID to become one of the first athletes to test positive,
And as the players were out in the court, they
suddenly walked out and said, the game is postponed. This
is what it sounded like if you were in Oklahoma
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City on the night of March the eleventh, twenty twenty. Yeah.
I think it's cut twenty three, but this is what
was going on. We'll play that for you in just
a sec. This is what was going on. Almost immediately
the NBA shutdown, and then every sports league in America
shut down as well, And then we're gonna keep playing
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other clips from March the eleventh for you of all
of these events as they start to happen. Remember Trump
addressed the nation from the Oval Office shortly after this.
This is what it sounded like. Well, we'll play it
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Standard Day. Together with other NATO allies and the G
seven Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, as well
as the European Union, we're going to jointly announce several
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new steps to squeeze putin. Each of our nation is
going to take steps in the nine Most Favored Nations
status to Russia. In the United States, we call this
Permanent Normal Trade Relations PNTR, but it's the same thing.
Revoking PNTR for Russia is going to make it harder
for Russia to do business with the United States, and
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doing it in unison with other nations to make up
half of the global economy will be another crushing blow
to the Russian economy. It's already suffering very badly from
our sanctions. Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. That
was President Biden just about an hour and a half
or so before we came on air so earlier this morning,
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saying that there is an escalation in the financial sanctions,
which the Kremlin is calling financial warfare against Russia. Most
Favored Nation Trade Status being pulled. This, I think is
meant to signal a more long term hostile trading posture
toward Russia from the US and Allied countries. It's also unlikely,
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unlikely that this will stop Russia in the days, I
would say, even weeks ahead from what seems to be
the implementation of the plan all along, which is to
seize Ukrainian population centers, pummel them with artillery strikes, and
squeeze and squeeze until eventually the Ukrainian government has to
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sue for peace. I think that is the Russian plan.
Biden also this was interesting, specifically said that Russia will
pay a severe price if they were to if they
were to use chemical weapons, which is just raising yet
another specter of WMD. Go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, we actually, Clay,
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we lost that clip too. Let's talk about the MiGs
for a second and the transfer of them. So the
fighter planes that were supposed to be pushed, I mean,
I was, I was talking about this on Fox this morning.
Senator Tom Cotton, for example, says, we're sending the missiles,
you know, shoulder fired missiles manpads, which is man portable
air defense system. Why not send them planes. It seems
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like Poland wanted to make sure that Germany wanted to
Germany and the US would also have their hand in
pushing MiG fighter planes to Ukraine. And the Biden administration
looked at this and said, no, what do you make
of It's it's such an interesting question because Buck, what
we have debated on this show, and some of our
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callers have called in, is what is the line of
demarcation where Russia says this is considered a direct act
of aggression and decides to hold the United States directly accountable. Right,
because all of the materials that were sending into Ukraine, now,
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all of the sanctions that we are putting on Russia.
To me, those are in some ways acts of war.
I think it's hard to say. When the ruble has
lost fifty percent of its value, when the Russian stock
market is not allowed to be opened essentially since the
invasion began, When you are not able to get money
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out or transfer money due to a variety of issues,
When we're not allowing your oil to be sold to
many different countries around the world, those feel like acts
of aggression on some way. But the Biden administration is
of the opinion that they're not going to cause Russia
to take the next step whatever, that proverbial next step
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of action is what we discussed was, I understand, if
I'm Poland and I have these big fighter jets and
I'm going to try to let Ukrainian fighters take off
from Poland, that Russia might decide to bomb Poland to
try to prevent these fighter jets from taking off. And
so Poland made what I think is a smart calculation,
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and they just flew him to Germany. And they thought
to themselves, there's no way that Russia is going to
bomb Germany, and certainly there's no way that they're going
to bomb an American Air Force base. And the Biden
administration seems to have been caught unaware by this, and
then they tried to backpedal and say, oh, we have
nothing to do with this. But I now, the more
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I have thought about it, I am of the opinion
that the forty Republican senators now who have reviewed this issue,
have decided that these jets should go to Ukraine. I'm
now of the opinion that that's the right call, because
we've already created this huge story surrounding it and allowing
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Ukrainian pilots to get into these MiGs and take off
and fly the planes to Ukraine. At this point feels
like we're bowing down to Vladimir Putin too much in
not allowing that to occur. So I am going to
be on the side of the forty Republican senators who
have looked at all these factors and said, hey, this
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is not going to cause an acceleration in the way
that Vladimir Putin is behaving, and so let's let the
Ukrainians have access to these planes. I think that makes
the most sense. What about you, I think that they
should do it. But remember it's it's not about whether
we can make the case. You know, there's there's no
judge here that we get to make a case before
about whether this is an escalation or not. Rationally speaking,
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you can make a clear case that this is not
really different from giving lethal munitions, like I said, the
Manpad stinger missiles, Javelin missiles, which are anti tank that's
ground to ground. There are different things. We're already in
large numbers sending to the Ukrainians and they're using them
to kill Russian soldiers. That's already happened out. So it's
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a question of whether whether Vladimir Putin would have you
right that the whole point here's how is he going
to do? What's I guess the question is, and I
think it's an interesting one. What is he to do? Differently?
Is he going to suddenly nuke Ukraine? Because the United
States is sending twenty four MiGs in with Ukrainian fighter
pilots on them. I guess when you're bombing a maternity
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ward already inside of Ukraine. What I think the argument
that is interesting is what is the next level of
acceleration that he's willing to undertake that would occur because
of this? So that that's the point that or rather
that's the question that I don't think anybody nobody can
definitively answer. Would he would he fire missiles at you know,
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a Ukraine, I mean at a Polish airbase just to
make a point and say, I'm not starting a war
with you guys, but if you're gonna have a you know,
a pipeline of fighters that are killing my guys, I'm
gonna take you know. I don't know, but I don't
think anybody has a has a clear sense of it.
I do know though, that for example, on our side
of it, I think people get concerned arts. So now
we've provided them with planes, the next step feels like
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a no fly zone, which people have been talking about
now already already for day rights. At what point is it, well,
you know, the planes take off from NATO bases. Is
he really going to fire at NATO bases? Would he
really be willing to do that because the logistics and
support that the Ukrainians are going to need to keep
those planes in the sky. I also think, honestly, and
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people probably don't want to hear this right now, but
I think it's important to always look at this with
just the most clear eyes possible, the most factual analysis.
We can give you a bunch of MiGs in the sky.
I mean, the Russians have fifteen hundred fighter planes, the
Ukrainians have roughly a hundred at the start of the conflict.
This is all just from the open source you can
check this online. So they've got to call it a
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fifteen to one plane advantage right now, they have not
been using it. So I think people believe, oh, if
if we put Ukrainian planes in the sky, that that's
going to have a dramatic effect on the Russian's ability
to continue to prosecute this war. I think that's unlikely
to be the case. Now you could say, well, Buck,
we're also sending them missiles, and that's not changing everything.
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We're trying to just help them fight with whatever we can.
But it doesn't strike me that this is going to
necessarily be that the game changer is that we clear
the sky of Russian planes, which would be a no
fly zone. But that's war, and I think everyone recognizes
that that's that's war with Russia because you also have
to hit Remember, they have surface to air missiles on
Russian territory that can fire hundreds of miles into Ukrainian airspace.
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So you cannot have a no fly zone without hitting
those sam sites. You hit those sam sites, it's a war. Well,
it's it's straight up war for now. Now you're hitting
Russian soil. So this is how when you see Clay,
it's we want to do more, but are we are?
You know, ultimately we're gonna have to face this as
a nation. Is it more important to us to stay
out of World War three with Russia and more important
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to us that Russia loses in Ukraine? That's gonna be
a that's gonna be a question that we have to
answer as we go along here. Well, and I think
the fear becomes even if Russia loses in Ukraine, it's
not eliminating the threat of Vladimir Putin. In many ways,
it actually is making him more dangerous. And that's why
I would allogize in some way if you want to
pay attention to what happened when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.
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We mobilized an entire American response, international response, but we
didn't depose Saddam Hussein, and so then we went back
into Iraq later and created the mess that later ensued there.
But Saddam Hussein was not eliminated as a threat. Even
if Russia eventually pulls out of Ukraine, and even if
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potentially they end up losing in quotation marks, both sides
are going to claim victory. Right probably before all is
said and done, the Vladimir Putin threat is still going
to be there, And so what is he going to
be like in the wake of however this Ukrainian situation
resolves itself, It's still gonna be I believe in existential
threat to Americans in a way that it wasn't before
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Travis buck Sex to show. I hope all of you
are having a fantastic Friday, Buck oh Man. Thirty TikTok
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stars have received a briefing from the White House on
the war in Ukraine Thursday afternoon. According to The Washington Post,
thirty top tikstock TikTok stars gathered on a zoom call
to receive key information about the war unfolding in Ukraine.
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This news just coming out. I just I mean, I
understand the White House probably would sit around Buck and say, well,
you know, we need to make sure that young people
understand the consequences and significant of what significance of what's
going on in Ukraine. But the idea of the White
House convening a briefing for thirty top TikTok stars. First
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of all, I hope Joe Biden talk to them, because
I would love the idea of Joe Biden having to
be explained what TikTok is uh in and of itself.
But this is just this is like when they had
the influencers. Remember when they had like the ridiculous of course, yeah,
they had that guy who came along fingernails who was
gay or whatever, the handbag and the long nails and
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the thing. Um, I don't know who that guy is.
By the way, I understand these do not influential online
in some way, but I would say him at the
White House. You know, we we as conservative see this
and we look at an administration that it's just fundamentally unserious.
I mean, it's doing serious damage, but it's unserious. People
who are making these very important decisions, but they do
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understand marketing and propaganda, and ye will turn around and
say why is it? I mean to the point about
you remember we were having a discussion about thirty four
year olds won't fight. They won't fight if we got invaded.
I mean, you know, you look at TikTok, you look
at these platforms they are making kids that they're convincing
them of politics and of narratives on a regular basis.
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By the way, we come back, we're gonna have some
fun with somebody actually throwing some punches back against Disney
over this uh this bill. But I wanted to play
We were talking earlier in the hour about this was
the anniversary. Today is March the eleventh of twenty twenty
is when for many people, COVID first exploded onto the
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scene and President Trump had an address from the Oval Office.
He shut down many of the borders. Everything kind of
hit the fan all of a sudden on March the
eleventh last year, and this was for many people the
moment when sports shut down. The NBA was preparing game
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between Oklahoma City and the Utah Jazz and this is
what happened on the PA system. This was basically from
this point over the next twelve hours or so eighteen hours,
every sports league in America shutdown, which was a prelude
to the entire country shutting down. Listen, tonight has been postponed.
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You take your time in leaving the arena. Tonight can
do show in a normally fashion. Thank you for coming
out tonight. We are all safe, and you give this
okasey Thunder dot com for updates on the upcoming games.
So that was basically the end of sports and when
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sports shutdown. We'll play a couple of more cuts from
March the eleventh, when Trump came out and spoke This
is also suddenly, Tom, you remember this book, how crazy
it was that that Marched the eleventh, Tom Hanks announced
that he had tested positive for COVID. He was in
Australian he was an isolation. At some point there will
be a gigantic documentary done on everything shutting down in America,
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and frankly, I think the fact that we got everything wrong.
But March the eleventh, this day two years ago, represented
the beginning of that process, and that crowd filing out
of Oklahoma City was one of the last crowds to
exist in mass numbers for basically a year. I remember
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Clay going home from the It's in downtown is where
the wr NYC studio was. I was doing my show
from down there, and I remember going home and realizing
that I had to get all of my and I
would have been probably two years ago to the day
almost now, maybe you know, give or take a couple
of days, going home, realizing that I was going to
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have to actually dust off my home radio gear and
in real time said, I was like, I don't think
I can go back, you know, go back into the office. Buck,
you were talking about New York City. This is one
of the craziest of all things. They started the Big
East Tournament and they stopped the game at halftime. Like
they started. They were like, okay, well we're gonna try
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to play the tournament. At halftime, the teams went in
and they were like, sorry, we're shutting down the entire
tournament literally at halftime. And I remember, you know, I
do a daily sports gambling show at the time. They
completely canceled our sports gambling show. Fuck. I went in
the next day. For three months, I did daily sports
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talk radio three hours a day without a single sporting
of it going on anywhere. How do you do How
did you do that? I mean, well, I was one
of the guys who was going on argue and we
have to find a way to how we have to
find a way to play because initially, remember the hope was, oh,
we're only going to be shut down for like two weeks.
Everything was going to come back. Sports kind of went first,
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among many things. I mean with the two weeks, I
mean I remember this because just the people thinking of
a giant arena full of people, this is you know,
that's like the worst possible thing. Turns out actually, no,
you get it at home, yes, and you get it
in close quarters with people that you spend all day
within an office. It's actually not going to a sports stadium.
That was the big But they got it. They got
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everything wrong. You get back to the earliest days, go
back two years ago and see what was being said, Oh,
we had a three percent fatality rate maybe, and you know,
all this, all this stuff was being said was totally Look,
we got those cuts. Some of those cuts we're gonna
play for you during the course of today's program. All
of it was wrong. And we're going to dive back
into in the third hour with doctor Joseph Latipo of Florida,
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the surgeon general of that state, who says no vaccine
recommendation for small children, and also Alex Barnson more data.
The fight is not over there, folks, fight for freedom continues.
Talk to you about it in just a few fleet
Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody into the Friday edition of
The Clay Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. Thanks so much
for rolling with us. Lines are open, so if you
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President Biden addressed the country, addressed the world this morning
on the issue of Ukraine provoking Most Favored Nations status
with Russian We're gonna dive into all of the latest
on the Ukraine later on in this hour, I'm gonna
have a conversation with our friend Stephen Yates, former deputy
National Security advisor to Victor Dick Cheney, Vice President Cheney
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under the Bush administration. We're gonna talk to him a
bit about this issue. And then later on third hour,
as we have promised you all along, part of our
mission here is we're not going to allow this pretend
that COVID mandates and lockdowns and mask policies didn't happen.
Thing that the Democrats seem to be trying right now.
We're not just going to walk away from this. There's
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still things happening. There's still data to crunch. There's still
numbers to look at, and we will certainly be doing
all of that with you in the third hour, with
Alex Barrens and joining us and doctor Joseph Latipo, the
surgeon General for the State of Florida. So a lot
of COVID deep dive coming your way in the and
it's really mandate and lockdown deep dive coming your way
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in the third hour, So get ready for that. We
have the end. It seems of a long running saga
though that Clay and I wanted to address with you
for a moment here the Jesse small At case has
finally come to a judicial conclusion. Jesse small ET's gonna
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spend over one hundred days in prison. We are gonna
take a look at whether that's a fair sentence or not,
just momentarily. But here is what Remember this Jesse small At.
The guys yelled, this is Maga country, and they poured
bleach on him and put a noose around his neck.
And then he walked home with the new still on
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because he was getting a sandwich on the streets of
Chicago at two o'clock in the morning, in the middle
of winter. It was like thirty degrees outside and two
guys wearing Maga hats or yelling this is Maga country
or whatever. He made it up so it doesn't even matter. Yeah,
and the Democrats, including Kamala Harris and Joe Biden themselves
freaked out about this national news story. Big deal. Here
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is the judge saying, yeah, you're a liar and you're
going to prison. I'm fashioning the following sentence. And here's
your sentence, the sentence seeing you to thirty months stell
any probation, and the probation is going to be to disquarter.
You're gonna be allowed to travel wherever you want. You
do not have to live in the state of Illinois.
He can report by phone. I know that if you're
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going to try to make a living and do some
of the things you do, you may have to go
to other places in New York and last you can
do those things. You will pay restitution to the City
Chicago the amount of one hundred twenty one hundred six dollars.
You are fined twenty five thousand dollars, which is the
maximum behind and you will spend the first one hundred
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and fifty days of your sentence in the Cook County jail,
and that will start today, right here, right now, Clay,
is this justice? No? I look, I am glad that
the judge put him in jail for at least one
hundred and fifty days five months whatever the map is there,
six months, depending on how exactly you classify it. But
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I wanted, if you remember we talked about this, I
wanted him to get years in prison, and that would
have been in a very aggressive sentence. But I believe
what he did, the way that he preyed upon American
media's obsession with race and victimization of race, and the
degree to which he created further division at a time
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of great division in this country, the consequences should have
been more significant than they were. I do appreciate the
fact that he's going to have to go to Cook
County jail. I think leading him out effectively in handcuffs
was significant. And even hearing Jesse Smallett, he tried to
throw up. Did you see the black power fist as
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he walked out. Listen to Jesse who immediately says, I'm
not suicidal. I'm not suicidal, which, by the way, sounds
super strange because it sounds like something someone would say
if they were not mentally stable, listen to this. I
am not suicidal. Okay, I am not suicidal. I am infant,
and I am not suicidal. If I did this didn't
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mean that I subbed my fist in the fears of
Black Americans in the suicion, but over four bunch of
years and the fears of the LGBTQ community your mine.
I respect you, and I respect the church. But I
did not do this, and I am not suicidal. And
if anything happens to me when I believe I did
not do it to myself and you must oh click.
And I just is it more offensive that he's claiming
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to be a civil rights hero or that he's still
saying he didn't do it? I'm just well, like, which
one to you is more mind blowing? Well, both of
them are equal parts offensive. And if I were a
judge on some level, when he started to say I
didn't do it, I would say, well, you are still
not taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions. So
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upon further reflection, I am going to double your sentence
and you are now going to spend a full year
in prison like I wish, because look, part of deciding
what the penalty is is analyzing whether there is in
any way some degree of acknowledgement of wrongdoing right, whether
there is a form of remorse, whether you are apologizing
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for your actions and acknowledging them. And when Jesse Smalleett
is still saying I didn't do this, he is lying.
He is delusional. And the fact that he throws up
the Black Power fit as he walks out as if
he is some sort of martyr makes me want to
put him in prison for longer. And look the other
thing I would say here, Buck, and I think this
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is super significant. We hear all the time about how
big tech is trying to make sure that the truth
is out there. You know what's going on right now.
Kamala Harris tweeted this, and I think it's important to
constantly because this ties in with what Jesse Smallett was doing.
He wasn't crazy in the way that he diagnosed and
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recognized that if he were the victim of a crime
like this, it would be the best thing that ever
happened to his career. And what I would tell everybody
out there is be skeptical whenever something you don't control
happens to you, and it's the greatest thing that could
ever happen to you. Right, the best thing that could
ever happen to Jesse Smallett's career was that he was
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a victim of an attempted assault like this. Because it
makes him a victim, it makes him more well known.
And here's what Kamala Harris said, Buck, Jesse Smalett is
one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know.
I'm praying for his quick recovery. These are still up
these tweets, Buck, this is Kamala. This was an attempted
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modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for
their life because of their sexuality or the color of
their skin. We must confront this hate, no acknowledgement. Buck,
You and I are getting tagged all the time. Anytime
we say masks don't work, Twitter police immediately show up
and try to give greater characterization of that. That's still up.
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There's no note on it about how it's not true.
Joe Biden tweeted what happened today to Jesse Smalette must
never be tolerated in this country. We must stand up.
We must stand up and demand we no longer give
this hate safe harbor, that homophobia and racism have no
place on our streets or in our hearts. We are
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with you, Jesse. These are still up. They're still up,
and there's a reason for it. The price that you
have to be willing to pay for wokeness is looking
like a fool. That's actually part of the obedience that
is demanded of the woke. Perfect example, men can get pregnant.
You have to say that. You sound like a moron
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when you say it, right, But if you're gonna be woke,
you gotta say men can get pregnant. And with Jessie,
it didn't matter to the people who said it that
it was all a lie. They were expected to say
it in the moment, and they did. The leftist hive
mind doesn't care about what's true. By the way, same
with masking and all these other things we talk about.
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You are expected to be a part of the collective.
You're expected to say what you're supposed to say in
the moment, and no one therefore afterwards on the left
will fault you for it because yeah, that was It's
almost like Biden and common or under orders. There is
an identity politics narrative here there's an opportunity to bash
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what was this really about Donald Trump? All the white nationalism? Yeah,
all the stuff that they had all the media been. Oh,
here's the perfect case study of Trump's white nationalism and
the destruction of the country it's created. The fact that
it was a lie doesn't matter at all. The only
problem from the perspective of Biden and Harris is that
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it was so sloppy that anybody with an IQ above
that of a toaster not only knows now Clay, but
really knew pretty much right away. I mean, I understand
you never want to be caught in that one outlier
of like, I guess this happened thing, But I mean,
I go, I've gone back and looked at my record
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on this one first week of the Jesse Smallette case.
I'm like, this guy's lying. It was so obvious. I
know you saw it is lying too. And do any
of the blue checks who got it wrong feel embarrassed, No,
not at all. They did their part. Not only do
they not feel embarrassed, they're not even taking down clearly
an accurate tweet. But all these social media sites they
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aim to care about misinformation and disinformation, they don't even
append an acknowledgement. Hey, by the way, this was a
total why Like I would be shamed into taking down
the tweet if I believe I were Kamala or Joe Biden.
I also wouldn't anticipate that this is true the moment
you hear it again. I would just say this for everybody.
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Any time a story like this happens and you go
back and you're like, man, would being a victim of
a crime like this be the greatest thing that could
happen to anybody's career. If the answer is yes, then
we should be skeptical that happened. I'll give you an example. Buck,
if you came in and you were like, hey, I mean, well,
(10:42):
let's take up a bunch of soy latte drinkers who
have Chris Hayes t shirts on just happen to try
to try to, you know, slap fight me in front
of the radio studio. You know you would know, right.
I was just gonna say, take it outside of the
world of like race crimes and hoaxes and everything else.
If your buddy, who usually had trouble picking up girls,
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if if he came to you and he said, hey,
you're never gonna believe what happened to me last night.
I was just out at our normal bar. It was
Tuesday night, and uh, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow walked in
or whoever you want to be, you know, likes hot.
You know that your buddy may like, Okay, who's the
hottest girl you can think of? Right now? I don't
even know. It used to be there were maxim girls
(11:28):
or Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover girls. Now there's like a
billion of them on Instagram, and so I can't even
keep up with you know, like Pamela Anderson. If you're
around my age, people will be like, oh, Pamela Anderson,
incredibly attractive Denise Richards back in the day. Like I
feel like there are so many Instagram models now that
it's even hard to keep up with who the famous
ones are. So give me a give me a widely renowned,
(11:53):
incredibly good looking woman. Doesn't hard, right, Just just go
with the story. Yeah, so and he said, and this,
and she hooked up with me. She came over to me,
she was like, hey, let me buy a beer. Hey,
do you guys you want to go? Do you want
to hang out? Do you want to come back? To
my place. You would say, you know what, whatever your
buddy's name is, I don't think i'd buy this story. Right,
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Maybe it's possible that supermodels show up at this random
bar that you, who usually have trouble picking up any girls,
suddenly get picked up by this girl who's super famous
and everybody wants to be with. And you guys went
back to her place, like you wouldn't believe it, right,
That would be the best thing that could ever happen
to that guy, whoever the girl is that he's in
love with. Why would you believe Jesse Smollett when for
(12:39):
his life, that's the best thing they could ever happen
to him, And so be skeptical. And you would be skeptical,
And I would be skeptical of your buddy who's trying
to tell you this story. And by the way, it
might happen one in a million times that something like
this could occur, and you would still never believe. But
I just throw out there to Clay on the skepticism
point here, Jose's small at from what he said his
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imaginary attackers and as we know, it was actually the
two Nigerian brothers and it was all stage but the
imaginationship with sexually, which is even crazier the imaginary MAGA supporters.
He talked about, it's as though Jesse Smallett had never
met a Trump voter, because there is not a Trump
voter in the entirety of the United States of America.
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Who on the streets of Chicago at two o'clock in
the morning or one o'clock in the morning would yale
this is Maga country. Well that was how about know
who Jesse Smallt is and know what his sexuality is? Like?
How many Donald Trump supporters watch Empire know who Jesse
small At is and then on top of that, know
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what his sexuality is? Like I didn't even know who
Jesse small At was. I don't watch Empire. I can't
that there's like four people who voted for Donald Trump
and even fit that like if you kept doing the
bid diagram. They were wandering around this streets of Chicago
news yea, allegedly just like trying to find it is
the coldest night of the year I think in Chicago,
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just on the possible off chance that they were going
to run into Jesse Smollett. I mean, it's it's just
a few steps away folks from Jesse. Smollett said, little
green men came out of a spacecraft wearing Trump hats
and they attacked me. I mean, it's just completely nonsensical.
And the sitting president and sitting vice president and ninety
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five percent of blue check news media were like, oh
my gosh, this is an atrocity. By the way, I'm
really disappointed that I can't even come up with a
girl like. That's the world we live in now. Everybody's
on Instagram back to my child, like my like you know,
teen crush was because she was my age on Seventh Heaven.
Remember that show, Jessica Biale. That was all Jessica Bill
(14:47):
was great, Yeah, Jessica Bill. Back in the day, Britney Spears,
Christina Aguilera, there were all these girls you could point to.
I don't even know who the girl, Like, if you
were twenty four right now, who do you point to?
I'm not even sure the answer. I mean, I'm too
busy reading history books, Clay I have. Yeah, wow, that's
maybe a good sign. There are some strong voices in Washington,
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We have got a loaded program for you today as
we roll into the weekend. I am back down in
the Free State of Florida, and I wanted to spice
in Buck and Eye did a few of the different
stories that two years ago began to happen on March
the eleventh, which was the oh my goodness, everything is
(16:37):
falling apart with COVID. Almost simultaneously on March the eleventh,
I feel like they'll do a documentary called March the eleventh,
twenty twenty one day. And this is when it started
to really become an issue for a lot of people.
Do you remember Oklahoma City was getting ready to play
(16:57):
against the Utah Jazz when Rudy Gobert tested positive for
COVID to become one of the first athletes to test positive,
And as the players were out in the court, they
suddenly walked out and said, the game is postponed. This
is what it sounded like if you were in Oklahoma
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City on the night of March the eleventh, twenty twenty. Yeah.
I think it's cut twenty three, but this is what
was going on. We'll play that for you in just
a sec. This is what was going on. Almost immediately
the NBA shutdown, and then every sports league in America
shut down as well, And then we're gonna keep playing
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other clips from March the eleventh for you of all
of these events as they start to happen. Remember Trump
addressed the nation from the Oval Office shortly after this.
This is what it sounded like. Well, we'll play it
for you at some point when we return. Perhaps perhaps
we will have that ed be ready to go with
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Standard Day. Together with other NATO allies and the G
seven Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, as well
as the European Union, we're going to jointly announce several
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new steps to squeeze putin. Each of our nation is
going to take steps in the nine Most Favored Nations
status to Russia. In the United States, we call this
Permanent Normal Trade Relations PNTR, but it's the same thing.
Revoking PNTR for Russia is going to make it harder
for Russia to do business with the United States, and
(19:26):
doing it in unison with other nations to make up
half of the global economy will be another crushing blow
to the Russian economy. It's already suffering very badly from
our sanctions. Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. That
was President Biden just about an hour and a half
or so before we came on air so earlier this morning,
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saying that there is an escalation in the financial sanctions,
which the Kremlin is calling financial warfare against Russia. Most
Favored Nation Trade Status being pulled. This, I think is
meant to signal a more long term hostile trading posture
toward Russia from the US and Allied countries. It's also unlikely,
(20:13):
unlikely that this will stop Russia in the days, I
would say, even weeks ahead from what seems to be
the implementation of the plan all along, which is to
seize Ukrainian population centers, pummel them with artillery strikes, and
squeeze and squeeze until eventually the Ukrainian government has to
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sue for peace. I think that is the Russian plan.
Biden also this was interesting, specifically said that Russia will
pay a severe price if they were to if they
were to use chemical weapons, which is just raising yet
another specter of WMD. Go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, we actually, Clay,
(20:57):
we lost that clip too. Let's talk about the MiGs
for a second and the transfer of them. So the
fighter planes that were supposed to be pushed, I mean,
I was, I was talking about this on Fox this morning.
Senator Tom Cotton, for example, says, we're sending the missiles,
you know, shoulder fired missiles manpads, which is man portable
air defense system. Why not send them planes. It seems
(21:19):
like Poland wanted to make sure that Germany wanted to
Germany and the US would also have their hand in
pushing MiG fighter planes to Ukraine. And the Biden administration
looked at this and said, no, what do you make
of It's it's such an interesting question because Buck, what
we have debated on this show, and some of our
(21:40):
callers have called in, is what is the line of
demarcation where Russia says this is considered a direct act
of aggression and decides to hold the United States directly accountable. Right,
because all of the materials that were sending into Ukraine, now,
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all of the sanctions that we are putting on Russia.
To me, those are in some ways acts of war.
I think it's hard to say. When the ruble has
lost fifty percent of its value, when the Russian stock
market is not allowed to be opened essentially since the
invasion began, When you are not able to get money
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out or transfer money due to a variety of issues,
When we're not allowing your oil to be sold to
many different countries around the world, those feel like acts
of aggression on some way. But the Biden administration is
of the opinion that they're not going to cause Russia
to take the next step whatever, that proverbial next step
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of action is what we discussed was, I understand, if
I'm Poland and I have these big fighter jets and
I'm going to try to let Ukrainian fighters take off
from Poland, that Russia might decide to bomb Poland to
try to prevent these fighter jets from taking off. And
so Poland made what I think is a smart calculation,
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and they just flew him to Germany. And they thought
to themselves, there's no way that Russia is going to
bomb Germany, and certainly there's no way that they're going
to bomb an American Air Force base. And the Biden
administration seems to have been caught unaware by this, and
then they tried to backpedal and say, oh, we have
nothing to do with this. But I now, the more
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I have thought about it, I am of the opinion
that the forty Republican senators now who have reviewed this issue,
have decided that these jets should go to Ukraine. I'm
now of the opinion that that's the right call, because
we've already created this huge story surrounding it and allowing
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Ukrainian pilots to get into these MiGs and take off
and fly the planes to Ukraine. At this point feels
like we're bowing down to Vladimir Putin too much in
not allowing that to occur. So I am going to
be on the side of the forty Republican senators who
have looked at all these factors and said, hey, this
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is not going to cause an acceleration in the way
that Vladimir Putin is behaving, and so let's let the
Ukrainians have access to these planes. I think that makes
the most sense. What about you, I think that they
should do it. But remember it's it's not about whether
we can make the case. You know, there's there's no
judge here that we get to make a case before
about whether this is an escalation or not. Rationally speaking,
(24:29):
you can make a clear case that this is not
really different from giving lethal munitions, like I said, the
Manpad stinger missiles, Javelin missiles, which are anti tank that's
ground to ground. There are different things. We're already in
large numbers sending to the Ukrainians and they're using them
to kill Russian soldiers. That's already happened out. So it's
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a question of whether whether Vladimir Putin would have you
right that the whole point here's how is he going
to do? What's I guess the question is, and I
think it's an interesting one. What is he to do? Differently?
Is he going to suddenly nuke Ukraine? Because the United
States is sending twenty four MiGs in with Ukrainian fighter
pilots on them. I guess when you're bombing a maternity
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ward already inside of Ukraine. What I think the argument
that is interesting is what is the next level of
acceleration that he's willing to undertake that would occur because
of this? So that that's the point that or rather
that's the question that I don't think anybody nobody can
definitively answer. Would he would he fire missiles at you know,
(25:33):
a Ukraine, I mean at a Polish airbase just to
make a point and say, I'm not starting a war
with you guys, but if you're gonna have a you know,
a pipeline of fighters that are killing my guys, I'm
gonna take you know. I don't know, but I don't
think anybody has a has a clear sense of it.
I do know though, that for example, on our side
of it, I think people get concerned arts. So now
we've provided them with planes, the next step feels like
(25:56):
a no fly zone, which people have been talking about
now already already for day rights. At what point is it, well,
you know, the planes take off from NATO bases. Is
he really going to fire at NATO bases? Would he
really be willing to do that because the logistics and
support that the Ukrainians are going to need to keep
those planes in the sky. I also think, honestly, and
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people probably don't want to hear this right now, but
I think it's important to always look at this with
just the most clear eyes possible, the most factual analysis.
We can give you a bunch of MiGs in the sky.
I mean, the Russians have fifteen hundred fighter planes, the
Ukrainians have roughly a hundred at the start of the conflict.
This is all just from the open source you can
check this online. So they've got to call it a
(26:38):
fifteen to one plane advantage right now, they have not
been using it. So I think people believe, oh, if
if we put Ukrainian planes in the sky, that that's
going to have a dramatic effect on the Russian's ability
to continue to prosecute this war. I think that's unlikely
to be the case. Now you could say, well, Buck,
we're also sending them missiles, and that's not changing everything.
(26:58):
We're trying to just help them fight with whatever we can.
But it doesn't strike me that this is going to
necessarily be that the game changer is that we clear
the sky of Russian planes, which would be a no
fly zone. But that's war, and I think everyone recognizes
that that's that's war with Russia because you also have
to hit Remember, they have surface to air missiles on
Russian territory that can fire hundreds of miles into Ukrainian airspace.
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So you cannot have a no fly zone without hitting
those sam sites. You hit those sam sites, it's a war. Well,
it's it's straight up war for now. Now you're hitting
Russian soil. So this is how when you see Clay,
it's we want to do more, but are we are?
You know, ultimately we're gonna have to face this as
a nation. Is it more important to us to stay
out of World War three with Russia and more important
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to us that Russia loses in Ukraine? That's gonna be
a that's gonna be a question that we have to
answer as we go along here. Well, and I think
the fear becomes even if Russia loses in Ukraine, it's
not eliminating the threat of Vladimir Putin. In many ways,
it actually is making him more dangerous. And that's why
I would allogize in some way if you want to
pay attention to what happened when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.
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We mobilized an entire American response, international response, but we
didn't depose Saddam Hussein, and so then we went back
into Iraq later and created the mess that later ensued there.
But Saddam Hussein was not eliminated as a threat. Even
if Russia eventually pulls out of Ukraine, and even if
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potentially they end up losing in quotation marks, both sides
are going to claim victory. Right probably before all is
said and done, the Vladimir Putin threat is still going
to be there, And so what is he going to
be like in the wake of however this Ukrainian situation
resolves itself, It's still gonna be I believe in existential
threat to Americans in a way that it wasn't before
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are having a fantastic Friday, Buck oh Man. Thirty TikTok
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stars have received a briefing from the White House on
the war in Ukraine Thursday afternoon. According to The Washington Post,
thirty top tikstock TikTok stars gathered on a zoom call
to receive key information about the war unfolding in Ukraine.
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This news just coming out. I just I mean, I
understand the White House probably would sit around Buck and say, well,
you know, we need to make sure that young people
understand the consequences and significant of what significance of what's
going on in Ukraine. But the idea of the White
House convening a briefing for thirty top TikTok stars. First
(31:07):
of all, I hope Joe Biden talk to them, because
I would love the idea of Joe Biden having to
be explained what TikTok is uh in and of itself.
But this is just this is like when they had
the influencers. Remember when they had like the ridiculous of course, yeah,
they had that guy who came along fingernails who was
gay or whatever, the handbag and the long nails and
(31:29):
the thing. Um, I don't know who that guy is.
By the way, I understand these do not influential online
in some way, but I would say him at the
White House. You know, we we as conservative see this
and we look at an administration that it's just fundamentally unserious.
I mean, it's doing serious damage, but it's unserious. People
who are making these very important decisions, but they do
(31:53):
understand marketing and propaganda, and ye will turn around and
say why is it? I mean to the point about
you remember we were having a discussion about thirty four
year olds won't fight. They won't fight if we got invaded.
I mean, you know, you look at TikTok, you look
at these platforms they are making kids that they're convincing
them of politics and of narratives on a regular basis.
(32:17):
By the way, we come back, we're gonna have some
fun with somebody actually throwing some punches back against Disney
over this uh this bill. But I wanted to play
We were talking earlier in the hour about this was
the anniversary. Today is March the eleventh of twenty twenty
is when for many people, COVID first exploded onto the
(32:39):
scene and President Trump had an address from the Oval Office.
He shut down many of the borders. Everything kind of
hit the fan all of a sudden on March the
eleventh last year, and this was for many people the
moment when sports shut down. The NBA was preparing game
(33:00):
between Oklahoma City and the Utah Jazz and this is
what happened on the PA system. This was basically from
this point over the next twelve hours or so eighteen hours,
every sports league in America shutdown, which was a prelude
to the entire country shutting down. Listen, tonight has been postponed.
(33:22):
You take your time in leaving the arena. Tonight can
do show in a normally fashion. Thank you for coming
out tonight. We are all safe, and you give this
okasey Thunder dot com for updates on the upcoming games.
So that was basically the end of sports and when
(33:46):
sports shutdown. We'll play a couple of more cuts from
March the eleventh, when Trump came out and spoke This
is also suddenly, Tom, you remember this book, how crazy
it was that that Marched the eleventh, Tom Hanks announced
that he had tested positive for COVID. He was in
Australian he was an isolation. At some point there will
be a gigantic documentary done on everything shutting down in America,
(34:08):
and frankly, I think the fact that we got everything wrong.
But March the eleventh, this day two years ago, represented
the beginning of that process, and that crowd filing out
of Oklahoma City was one of the last crowds to
exist in mass numbers for basically a year. I remember
(34:28):
Clay going home from the It's in downtown is where
the wr NYC studio was. I was doing my show
from down there, and I remember going home and realizing
that I had to get all of my and I
would have been probably two years ago to the day
almost now, maybe you know, give or take a couple
of days, going home, realizing that I was going to
(34:49):
have to actually dust off my home radio gear and
in real time said, I was like, I don't think
I can go back, you know, go back into the office. Buck,
you were talking about New York City. This is one
of the craziest of all things. They started the Big
East Tournament and they stopped the game at halftime. Like
they started. They were like, okay, well we're gonna try
(35:10):
to play the tournament. At halftime, the teams went in
and they were like, sorry, we're shutting down the entire
tournament literally at halftime. And I remember, you know, I
do a daily sports gambling show at the time. They
completely canceled our sports gambling show. Fuck. I went in
the next day. For three months, I did daily sports
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talk radio three hours a day without a single sporting
of it going on anywhere. How do you do How
did you do that? I mean, well, I was one
of the guys who was going on argue and we
have to find a way to how we have to
find a way to play because initially, remember the hope was, oh,
we're only going to be shut down for like two weeks.
Everything was going to come back. Sports kind of went first,
(35:51):
among many things. I mean with the two weeks, I
mean I remember this because just the people thinking of
a giant arena full of people, this is you know,
that's like the worst possible thing. Turns out actually, no,
you get it at home, yes, and you get it
in close quarters with people that you spend all day
within an office. It's actually not going to a sports stadium.
That was the big But they got it. They got
(36:12):
everything wrong. You get back to the earliest days, go
back two years ago and see what was being said, Oh,
we had a three percent fatality rate maybe, and you know,
all this, all this stuff was being said was totally Look,
we got those cuts. Some of those cuts we're gonna
play for you during the course of today's program. All
of it was wrong. And we're going to dive back
into in the third hour with doctor Joseph Latipo of Florida,
(36:34):
the surgeon general of that state, who says no vaccine
recommendation for small children, and also Alex Barnson more data.
The fight is not over there, folks, fight for freedom continues.
Talk to you about it in just a few fleet
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