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March 29, 2023 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. We hope, wherever you may be across the
world around the country, that you are having a fantastic
midpoint of your week and that you are ready to
hang out with us for the next three hours and
hopefully have some fun while also being entertained. We've got

(00:23):
a ton of different topics to dive into with you.
The latest on the Nashville school shooting and the continued
fallout surrounding that. DeSantis versus Trump polling data continues to
come out maybe the dumbest opinion in Sunny Hostin's career.
On the view, We've got doctor Fauci being rewarded with

(00:49):
a multi million dollar book advance. And also, when you
consider all of the cities in America right now, it's poble.
The Washington d C. District Attorney is prosecuting the fewest
of all of the crimes that are occurring in the
nation's capital. I was there yesterday, back home in Nashville today,

(01:11):
and how does that compare to jan sixth. Also, is
the Trump indictment in New York City falling apart. They
are not hearing anymore reportedly on the Trump indictment this
week maybe not also next week. We'll break all that
down for you. But Buck, we wait now in Nashville

(01:33):
for the release of the trans shooters manifesto. I am
told that it is going to be released. When exactly
it will be released remains unclear. I think it should
happen today. The Nashville Police did a phenomenal job responding

(01:54):
to the shooting at the school. We played and talked
about the videos from inside of that school. How heroic
so many of those officers were. The Nashville Police have
been very forthcoming with all the details of this investigation
on a fairly rapid fashion. Now is the time to
share that manifesto because in the absence of that manifesto

(02:19):
coming out, many people are trying to fill this void,
so to speak, and argue. I'm sure you're seeing all
the same headlines that I am, Buck, where for instance,
NBC NBC News put up a headline yesterday that said,
fear pervades Tennessee's trans community amid focus on Nashville shooter's

(02:42):
gender identity. We were already fearing for our lives. Now,
it's even worse. That's a quote. No, it's worse for
the kids that were killed by the trans woman, or
by the woman who was a trans man, whatever you
want to say. It's definitely worse for them. Yet their
suffering is not being covered. And I wanted to play

(03:04):
this for you, Buck. They're now arguing, Oh, the victims
would be alive if they hadn't passed the trans bills
in Tennessee. This is a TikToker red ahearn that is
sharing an opinion that has been widely discussed in the
trans community in the wake of this shooting. Listen to
cut one. I wonder if the parents of the victims

(03:29):
of the Nashville shooting today would still have their children
if these trans builds in Tennessee were never a thing.
I'm not a parent, but if I were, I'd be real,
real mad at the government. I'd be real, real mad
at the government. And let's be very clear, Clay that
here you have people on the left. We just played
audio that was from the libs of TikTok account who

(03:52):
are explicitly saying that if there are more of these
bills to prevent the mutilation of the general mutilation of children,
that there will be more school shootings, that there'll be
more people killed, there'll be more violence. Essentially, it's it's
an implicit thing. This is what terrorists do. This is
what terrorists do. It's you know, nice, nice society you have.

(04:14):
There would be a shame if something happened to it,
to be a shame if something crumbled the civilization that
you think you live in. And and the media. I
have to say, it is remarkable to me that I
expect that in the aftermath of something like this when
the perpetrator is someone that is first of all, always
elevated generally by the left right. The trans community in

(04:36):
general is constantly elevated. So this is they're they're taught
telling us all the time the trans community is marginalized
and victimize, and we hear all these stats about the
the murderer of the people within the trans community. Stats.
They say this Saturday, they're having an event about the
trans genocide. When you actually look at the stats, there
are very few trans people who are murdered, in part

(04:57):
because there are very few trans people, and the trans
people who are killed are overwhelmingly killed as either they're
involved in the sex trade. There's some situation that there
are not hate crimes where trans people are being murderal
of the country. That's just not true. Doesn't happen. Doesn't happen.
So this notion that there are this is great theory.
And by the way, of course, everybody should live in safety,

(05:18):
security and decency. Where this show we're very anti murder,
we're very anti murder on the show. But there's a
lie that is being told that there's this constant threat,
this constant fear that the trans community lives under for
their safety, when this is very similar what the left
does on other arguments too. This is not about safety,

(05:38):
This is about policy. This is about whether or not
people will be forced by government power to celebrate what
many more people are starting to see now is a
severe mental illness is actually not something that should be
elevated and treated as an affirmation of identity and all
the rest of it, all the stuff that we hear
and use, the different pronouns and all of this. What

(05:59):
they're doing is what the left always does. If you
don't agree with me, you're literally committing violence against me.
That's what they say. If you don't agree with me,
on go down any range of issues. This is why
they shout down speakers in schools. This is why they
don't allow conservatives to even have a voice that they
will hear from, whether it's a fifth Circuit judge, as
we saw recently at Stanford University Law School. So they're

(06:21):
doing this purposefully so that people won't have an honest
conversation about it. And the media, by the way, is going.
I thought they would be horrible, but they find new
levels of horribleness. I mean, there is something ghoulish and
demonic in the soul of the Democrat aligned media. This
was from Reuters. I'm not even picking the crazy far

(06:42):
left stuff, right, I mean, that's what we just had
lives of TikTok Clay former Christian student kills three children,
three staff in Nashville. Student. Did you see that headline?
That is the router's headline, former Christian student kills three
Oh gee, I wonder we're all supposed to be so
stupid that we don't see the politics. The victims here

(07:05):
Christian children, Christian adults, a Christian school. But because the
trans left wing lunatic perpetrator attended to school twenty years ago,
that's what they lead with play gee, and we played
for you. I believe it was yesterday, CNN saying, look,

(07:25):
the fact that the shooter was trans is a major
distraction from the real story here, which is guns yesterday.
MSNBC also climbing on that argument, focusing on the transgender identity. MSNBC,
this is ali Velshi. They're saying here in this conversation,

(07:49):
it's actually uniquely dangerous to the trans community to point
out that someone in the trans community committed cold blooded
murder of six innocent people. Listen, no idea if the
shooter was undergoing hormone therapy. But in the words of
Congressman Green quote, everyone can stop blaming guns now, which
is really code for focusing on the shooter's identity, something

(08:09):
conservatives don't seem overly concerned about when the shooter is
a white man, which is often trans people are already
more likely to experience violence simply because they are trans people.
So the right focusing on that is uniquely dangerous and
we have to respond to that. But it is also
a distraction because there are plenty of trans people in
plenty of countries all over the world. But once again,

(08:31):
America is the only nation where shootings like this happen
over and over again. So maybe it's not mental health
or video games or hormones. Maybe it's the guns. Okay,
the guns, the guns, the guns. The guns are not
going anywhere. I wish somebody would just follow down the
rabbit hole. Randy Weingarten zen imbecile buck. But she at

(08:53):
least came out and said, we need to go collect
everybody's guns. Did you see that clip of her basically
saying at least whether you agree or disagree with her,
and certainly I think almost everyone listening to us right
now disagrees with her. At least she's not pretending away
what she wants to do, which is I think this
is a goal here, period. I think you're making. I

(09:13):
think this is an important point that that you're making here,
which is that the only honest argument on the left,
the honest argument would be we're taking all of your guns.
We're sending agents of the state with guns to take
your guns. Yes, and they will shoot you if you
don't give your guns up. That is it, right? That

(09:35):
is the only honest argument about gun control taken to
its extreme, taken to where it would actually I mean, yes,
that's what they want, will there be fewer shootings? Right? Yeah,
this is there is the realities of the bilbody had
a gun and if the government took all your guns away,
that's Threeandy white Garden's argument because the other side of
this is when they say, okay, we're going to ban

(09:55):
a our fifteens, I say, well, this this individual went
into a went into a grammar school with three guns.
A pistol would have been just as deadly under the circumstances.
Multiple pit and anyone who wants to argue with this,
first of all, they sound like idiots because you just
go and look at fort Hood two pistols, Virginia Tech

(10:15):
shooting pistols. So this notion that some kind of restriction
on the cosmetics or the magazine or any of that
stuff would stop a shooting is just ignorance. That's why
the art, this is why people in the Second Amendment
community gets so frustrated. It's let's have the real talk.
You want no Second Amendment libs, you want no guns
in civilian hands period. And you know it's amazing because

(10:38):
they talk about Australian they'll say, look at the Australian
buyback program, look at what a huge success. It was
Australia has more guns in private hands now than it
did before the buyback program, just putting that out there too.
People have no idea what they are talking about, but
they never actually go to the extreme and the argument
because Clay, when Joe Biden comes out and says, you know,
we're gonna we're gonna band of Shawl, right, you know,

(10:58):
after he talks about the ice cream flavors. The whole
point is to give emotional validation to Democrat voters who
think people who own guns are bad and stupid and wrong.
That's it. It's it's sticking a finger in the eye
of the people on the other side of politics that
you don't like. No serious person who knows the data,
who knows history, and who knows reality thinks that making

(11:20):
a change like this, you know, the Salt rifle band, well,
it's going to be at best, you might if you
could eliminate every single rifle shooting in the country, you
might bring down the violence right by one percent. And
of course that's not going to happen because people are
gonna have illegal guns because that's who kills people. Buck
are you when this happened, we were talking off air,

(11:41):
and I said, based on these details before, we didn't
say it publicly on the air, but I was like,
this feels like it's probably gonna be a trans shooter.
To me, that was my prediction, and you I didn't
know if I should just you all know, try Clay
said this to me, and I will confirm this because
you just said it on air. Yeah, right when this happened,
based on what's going on in Tennis, and I looked
at him in you know, we just, of course we

(12:02):
would never say anything in the air. We couldn't, you know,
provide factual basis for and don't want to speculate specket.
But the two of us talking about where this was going. Privately,
Clay thought this was what was going to happen. And
then I said, and if I'm right, this story will
vanish because the CNN's and the MSNBC's will not want

(12:26):
to talk about a trans shooter. If this were a
Trump supporting right winger, Joe Biden would already be on
the ground in Nashville, just like Joe Biden didn't go
to East Palestine, Ohio, Buck, why is the president not here?
The president traveled to Buffalo. President traveled to basically anywhere

(12:48):
where he can sell the narrative of right wing extremism,
try to tie it into January sixth, everything else. I
don't think he's going to come to Nashville at all
over this shooting. And look, I understand, and there are
a lot of people out there listening to me in Nashville,
we say, yeah, we don't want him here. We don't
want him in the state of Tennessee. I understand. But
where the president travels sends a message about what the

(13:10):
president thinks is important. And Joe Biden said, I'm here
to restore the soul of the nation. Wouldn't that include
pointing out when crazy trans people are, it appears, attacking
religious people. That seems like a direct threat to the
soul of the nation. What could be a more obvious

(13:31):
and ghoulish and horrific evil then an adult walking into
a school like this and seeing a nine year old
girl and shooting that nine year old girl and then
doing it again and again. There is nothing, there is
nothing more evil than this. And every person, certainly every

(13:51):
parent in the country knows that. Why Joe Biden has
not already flown to this part of Nashville and is
not hugging of parents and telling them we'll do everything
we can for you. We are so sorry as a nation.
Would I would like to hear some Democrat try to
explain why that has not happen yet. He's too busy,
has to go, has to go, you know, go for

(14:13):
gay number four hundred out at the beach house. Really
too busy for this. Unacceptable, unacceptable, And if it were
a Trump individual, Trump supporter, he would have already been here.
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(15:38):
We were just talking before about how there's still no
manifesto for the public to see about this shooter in
Nashville who killed six innocence, the trans shooter who, despite
what Reuters is trying to indicate, it seems very likely
based on and Reuters said this was a Christian student,

(16:01):
as if that has something to do with what happened here.
This student, former student, I should say, the shooter was
also considering other targets, including family members, including other sites,
including locations that have nothing to do with Christianity. The
police haven't given us the full the full set of
possible or considered targets. This was a premeditated murder. But

(16:24):
I would also argue that based on the fact that
there is an almost certain ideological component to this, it
is political violence and the furtherance of a political agenda,
which is the classic and enduring definition of terrorism. Now,
we often will use this term to will say domestic
terrorism clay to separate it. And there were debates about

(16:46):
this even in the CIA, and debates about this in
the various intelligence community branches about how to talk about
these things, what terminology to use. We'll remember, even during
the Obama administration, we're all supposed to say eisl Do
you remember that. Oh yeah, that was a big fight
in the intelligence community because they kept wanting the public
to say isol instead of ISIS, and everyone kept saying isis.
So you know, this stuff they get into, obviously the

(17:08):
semantics of it at some level. Two. But they see
domestic terrorism because they want to separate it from foreign
inspired the hottest terrorism usually or having an international international
entity nexus to it. But this to me is classic
domestic terrorism. I don't really know what we have to
see here other than the specifics in the manifesto, but

(17:29):
based on the targets that were chosen here and the
very clear signs of an ideological radicalization, and you can
argue that it's a hate crime as well, though I
think that the broader targets that indicate to me more
domestic terrorism than hate crime. But at some point, also
as long as there's an understanding of what's really at
stake here and what really happened, the specific terminology between

(17:53):
hate crime and domestic terrorism, I think both are applicable.
And don't you think that we need that man festo released?
And I understand if they have to redact some portions
of it for a variety of reasons before it's released,
it needs to be released sooner rather than later, because
I think the Nashville Police Department has done themselves a

(18:13):
ton of favors with the videos that they put out,
with the response, with the alacrity with which they put
this information out there. But the longer we don't get
a clear motivation for why this occurred, the more people
out there feel as if there's being something hidden. It
becomes a political decision instead of a public safety decision.

(18:35):
We should know why this happened if we're going to
try to prevent. If we're going to try to understand
how to prevent, you have to understand the full scope
of what occurred here. And there is no, in my mind,
no real reason to hold it back other than the
belief that this may You know that they can't trust
the public with this information because it will lead to

(18:56):
bad outcomes. Well, that's a government excuse for all kinds
of censorship. It's unacceptable. So the manifesto must come out,
and there must be pressure to get it out sooner
than later. I completely agree with you on that as well.
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(20:20):
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(20:42):
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(21:03):
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if you scroll down through there. Okay, buck. Big topic
of discussion has continued to be whether or not TikTok
should be banned. We were talking about this off air.
We've got a big article up and out Kick one
of our writers did a deep dive on what exactly

(21:24):
is happening, what the impact could be. And you were
against TikTok being banned when we discussed it. I think
it was on Monday or Friday earlier this week, I think, right.
I think it's like it's like me an AOC Yeah,
but yeah, you and Jamal Bowman there and left wing
Democrat congressman, I understand your all. Glenn Greenwald, he's also

(21:46):
suspicious and thank you out there, yep. Um. And so
my biggest thing and I saw this and I wanted
to add to that conversation as it is continuing to
grow because it appears I saw a poll that came
out yesterday that showed Democrats, Republicans, and Independence were all

(22:07):
in favor of banning TikTok. In my argument was the
thing that bothers me the most about TikTok in general.
And this is a Wall Street Journal article that I saw.
Do you know right now in America, the most downloaded
free mobile apps in the United States, the top four

(22:30):
are all Chinese owned. A lot of people focusing on TikTok.
This is what I've been saying. Something called Temu. There's
something called cap cut, which I actually am familiar with.
I didn't know China owned it. My twelve year old
and maybe some of you out there have kids or
grandkids who do this as well. Will make like highlight

(22:52):
videos and you can cut them using different video feeds.
The cap cut is the most famous way to do
that for a YouTube short or for a TikTok or
something like that. And then something else called Shine. Now,
all four of those, the four most downloaded apps in
the United States right now in this past week, all

(23:14):
Chinese owned. And again that's data from Sorry, I said
Wall Street journals actually axios with that data. My biggest
issue is not whether or not TikTok should be banned Buck,
It's that China is not allowing any of our top
companies access to their markets, and meanwhile they are coming
in here and hoovering up massive audiences in data in

(23:38):
the United States. And there is an argument that one
reason why China is being so successful is they have
over a billion people to be testing their algorithms on
in China, perfecting them and then bringing them here when
they can ensure that they are at their most viral
and at their most popular, and then they're competing with

(24:01):
American company. So you can't go on Google, you can't
go on YouTube, you can't go on Twitter, you can't
go on Facebook. They don't allow our largest companies Instagram
to compete in China, and then they're allowed to come
over here and compete in our markets. I find that's
what upsets me. But so here here's the issue. I mean,
that's all true. I think the issue though, becomes so

(24:24):
why does TikTok get sacrificed in this bargain? Right? Well,
why do other come, all these other companies get to
keep doing business in China. But because you know, we're
gonna block great And that's where I said, like, nobody's
calling to ban the iPhone, right, I mean, so so
everyone else gets to keep doing business in China, but
oh they won't let us into their markets, so we're
gonna ban TikTok. Like you know, it seems this is

(24:47):
a company. There are chareholders, there are people who work there.
Um Americans. By the way, just be very clear, there
are American employees of TikTok. I think people also also
forget that. Um, this isn't like a bunch of people
just sitting around in Beijing. We're operating this app. There's
a whole us US presence for it. And I'm just
saying this whether Rand Paul has come out against it,

(25:08):
and this has been my thing all along, that it is.
He says it mimics censorship by the Chinese government. He
cast a question whether to ban the viral video app
as a free speech issue and said he would defend
the app even against members of his parties. According to NBC,
what I've been saying too, if they this is why
I brought up Russia today. It's the government to say,

(25:29):
oh we don't like this app. We think it's bad
for kids for their like long term thought process. It's like, well, okay,
but it's not worse for them than Instagram or Facebook.
It's not for anybody. Where I come down buck is,
I don't believe they can actually ban it, right, So
I don't believe that the United States can ban this
app from existing because so much one hundred and fifty

(25:50):
million people already have it on their phone. Are you
telling me that your fourteen year old is not going
to be smart enough to figure out how to continue
to use TikTok. I think what this is designed to
do is a leverage play, and they're trying to force
this to be sold to an American company. So I
don't think there's any way it goes to. And the

(26:11):
leverage play is like how does this who buys it?
I think is one of the challenging parts. But that
I think the actual idea of hey, we're going to
ban it is virtually impossible, and it's about trying to
force China to sell this company. And there's some text also,
so there's the issue of arbitrary. This is arbitrary, say
it's arbitrary and aprecious to just ban TikTok, And as

(26:33):
I've said to everybody from the beginning of this, the
social media companies that are owned by Americans here in
America are worse for your kids and a bigger threat
to your freedom than TikTok. And I've very few people
really push back on that. When they think it through,
they go, yeah, wait a second, what happened with before
Elon bought it Twitter in the election? And Facebook? And
what is YouTube doing all the time, and how does

(26:55):
that algorithm work? And what are they pushing? Are they
pushing a lot of constitutionalism on YouTube these days? They
are not? But then there's also the overreach component of this,
So there's a censorship concern, which Rand Paul and Red
Paul had come through from me on this one. And
then there's also what's in the text of what they're
calling the restrict Act. I think that's the name I
was trying to remember. You know, they have to give

(27:16):
us some serious sounding name to every bill these days,
like the Anti Inflation Act that doesn't actually reduce inflation
really increases why one point four trillion or one point
two trillion according to most recent estimates. Who wonder who
told you that it's anti inflation and that it increases inflation,
but fell for that one. Huh, this is we're not
forgetting that one on this show. Yeah, Joe Mansion, We're

(27:38):
not forgetting what he did. But here we go with
the text from the restrict Act. This was shared by
Greg Price, who's a conservative, you know, Twitter presence U
in General, the Secretary and Consulate Sorry, the heading is
addressing information and communication technology products and services that pose
undue or unacceptable risk. A Secretary, in consultation with the

(28:01):
relevant executive department and agency heads, is authorized to and
shall take action to identify, deterred, disrupt, prevent, prohibit, investigate,
or otherwise mitigate, including by negotiating, negotiating, entering into, or
imposing and enforcing any mitigation measure to address any risk

(28:22):
arising from any covered transaction by any person or with
respect to any property subject to the jurisdiction of the
United States that the Secretary determines. So information and communication
technology products, the federal government can basically just say, yeah,
we think there's some risk from this, and so we're
gonna do whatever we want to you. I don't think

(28:44):
that's a good idea. It's very expansive the way that
it's being drafted, which is why again I think ultimately
this is about forcing a sale. I would be stunned
if they and if they did it buck, I just
I feel like my fifteen year old then five minutes
would figure out how to continue to use TikTok on
his electronic devices. Right, How did a ban even? I mean,

(29:08):
this isn't you know? Apple would probably have to put
an update and the phone companies have to put an
update that I would strip it from your phone because
other people I don't think they could strip it from
the phone. I think what would happen is that they
would not abe. You wouldn't be able to continue to
update it. And if you don't update apps, eventually they

(29:30):
become they don't function anymore. That's like the laziest, most
ridiculous band I've ever heard of. Yeah, yeah, it's a
ban on being a my understanding, it's a band on
you being able to continue to update your app, which
eventually will render it und lack. I won't function anymore.

(29:50):
This is like whenever I try to play Call of
Duty during during the UH the COVID pandemic, and I
would have to spend like days just updating that thing. Man,
what happens they get all these new you know, all
these you guys, some of you know exactly what I'm
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Sex been rolling through our friends at the View Buck.

(32:01):
We had a relatively short lived, I would say, kumbay
Yah moment when Whoopie Goldberg had like two takes in
a row that we agreed with and we said, hey,
maybe the View was turned in a corner. We thought,
maybe they're gone invite the two of us on the
clay In Buck Extra Special. Maybe maybe The View isn't
the dumbest show in America that airs on a daily basis. No,

(32:27):
they've continued joy By Harrors falling apart. But Sonny Hostin
sometimes escapes are ridicule as also a uniquely dumb individual.
It's like Joy behars Joe Biden and Sonny Hostin might
be her Kamala Harris that the duo is so awful
sometimes it's hard to know which is worse. Sonny Hostin

(32:50):
said she doesn't care at all about China imprisoning Muslims
because black people are put in jail in America. This
is really what she said. Listen and so, as a
woman of color with a six foot two black kid
in college and a five foot seven, five foot eight
black kid in high school, I don't see that part

(33:13):
of American exceptionalism. I'm sorry. I think this country has
a lot of problems that could be solved. Yes, maybe
they're putting Muslims in jail in Afghanistan. I think you
mentioned in China they're putting a lot of black more
black people in jail. Ki Okay, okay. What do we
think of the chances that any of the ladies of

(33:33):
the view, first of all, know what a weiger is
or would be able to spell it. I don't know that.
To be fair, I'm not sure that I could spell weiger,
So it's tough to be fair. To be fair, that
is a really hard one to spell. So, but that
is a group that she is. What she's saying Muslim.
She's talking about the Turkic Weigers of Western China in

(33:55):
Shinjiang Province, who are in literal and I use that
word appropriately because we'll overuse it all the time, literal
concentration camps. Yes, because they are the wrong ethnicity and
religious group. Yes, for the Chinese Communist Party. She is
comparing that to people going to prison for rape, murder, drugs,
every serious felony, every serious crime in the country are similar. Yes,

(34:21):
this is important because she would probably get fired on
its face if she said something like that about the Holocaust. Right, Oh,
I don't really care about the Holocaust because we put
a lot of black men in jail in America today.
And why does the height of her kids matter? This
is really weird. Like she said, I've got a six
foot two black son in college, and then I've got

(34:43):
a five seven or five eight black son in high school.
It's like, why does that? Why? Why does anybody care
what height your kids are? It doesn't make any sense
at all, But it's weird that she would. I think
she has a law degree. Look up Sonny Austin. Yes
she does. She was so fun fun fact I was

(35:04):
I was on a pilot for a CNN show where
they ran a bunch of different people, and if I
remember correctly, she was one of the people on the
panel and she was supposed to be the legal expert.
I think that itself. How could you be so unaware?
And that's what I'm saying about the Holocaust idea when

(35:26):
you're in a concentration camp. I'm sorry, I'm sorry there.
This is important because I swear to God, Clay, I'm
didn't interrupt you. I'm sorry. I swear that I was
going to say, I bet her son that she's so
worried about goes to Harvard. Where do you think her
son goes to school? Clay, give you one guess Harvard student,

(35:49):
and I am sure that it is, like, you know,
it's very hard to go to the number one university
on the planet because your mom is a famous person
and you know, amazing dad is their dad. She's married
to an orthopedic surgeon. So if you want to talk
about privileged offspring in America today, mom who is on

(36:12):
a daily television show, dad who is an orthopedic surgeon,
and the mom is going to sit on television and say,
I don't care about what goes on in China because
there are black people in jail in America, well, concentration camps.
You get put there because of your identity, not because

(36:32):
of something that you did. Right, And for her to
not be smart enough to understand the difference, and she
also said Afghanistan, the this is this is uh? I mean,
she got so much wrong with Muslims, like who cares? Uh?
This is this is to me evidence of the cover

(36:57):
that elites. Elites in America often give to China because
they try to falsely equivocate for errors that may not
be like our small imperfections. They use this is what
the NBA does. This is what so many people, it's
what MSNBC, what, what CNN do. They cover for China

(37:20):
by pointing out that America's imperfect, and they point out
our imperfections as a way to justify not caring about
the blatant human rights violations of China. I think also
this comparison with China is particularly interesting because here is
a multi millionaire Sonny Hostin who is essentially saying, I

(37:42):
don't I don't care about what's going on in the
forced labor camps, with the forced sterilization of women, with
over a million people confirmed and the numbers probably much
higher than that going through this, who are also subject
to extreme brutality, execution, and torture for speaking out against
the the state. I can't focus on that because I

(38:03):
have a son who's at Harvard, and it's really hard
and dangerous to be at Harvard. He's six two buck.
I mean her six foo son. I mean the racism
that her son must be experiencing at Harvard compared to
the racism that is going on in communist China in
the concentration camps. I can imagine why she really, you know,

(38:25):
she can't focus on number two, can only think about
number one. How often it is our stupid things set
on the view? I mean, can I tell you honest
the problem that they couldn't have us on the view
because if we actually went there and got to they
would try to shout us down. But the people on
that set are so stupid and so ignorant. But I
know people don't like name calling here. Sorry, they're so

(38:47):
lacking in knowledge, wisdom, context. I don't mind the name calling.
By the way, I think they are stupid and ignorant. Well,
I'm just saying no, it would be impossible to have
a conversation with them where And that's also why, by
the way, they have like Joy Behar there so they
can always revert back to they want to speak about
serious issues. This has been described and it was actually

(39:08):
John Stewart that I initially think was written about this way.
Clown knows on, clown knows off, Like sometimes Joy Behar
wants to be serious. Sometimes Joy Behar when she gets
it's it's not that she can make jokes and do
political analysis. It's when her political analysis shows she has
no idea what she's talking about, has never read anything,
nor has any knowledge of the subject matter. Then it's just, oh,

(39:31):
we're all just making jokes. Yeah, as this constant excuses,
as this escape valve as a cover, and also you
know this, and I know this, but I think a
lot of our listeners may not. There's this behind the
scenes staff, probably of thirty people or more working on
the view. So it's not only that people like Sonny

(39:53):
Houston are really woefully misinformed and ignorant about many of
the topics upon which they're speaking, it's that they're willfully
doing that in many respects, because if you were on
that show and you wanted to be surrounded by super
smart people who could inform you to make sure that
you get facts right and don't sound like such an imbecile,

(40:16):
they would be able to have that staff right. Like.
This isn't some situation where it's a YouTube show and
they don't make much money and sometimes people are going
to screw up. This is a highly produced, incredibly lucrative
daytime television show which has all the resources it needs
to make its hosts as intelligent as they can be,

(40:37):
and they still look like idiots every time. I will
say I actually think that they Their service to the
Democrat Party is to make Democrat voters feel more comfortable
in their ignorance. It's like hanging out with the dumb
kids in the class, but they're the cool kids in
the class, and so you feel okay not doing your
homework too, because the cool kids aren't doing their homework.

(40:59):
So I'm going to go, you know, smoke cigarettes after
class with them and fail. That's the purpose of the view,
to make people who don't want to do the work
to learn anything feel okay with that. And by the way,
if you think these shows don't matter, these are overwhelmingly
consumed by women that air during the day, suburban moms

(41:20):
and grandmas, and those are the people that are going
to be deciding this election. That's the reality. Men overwhelmingly
vote for Republican candidates. That's the truth. Can we increase
the number of men who vote for Republican candidates. Probably,
But women are the true swing voters by and large
in the suburbs, and they're listening to these imbeciles. For

(41:42):
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