May 15, 2024 • 47 mins
Biden/Trump debates? Kari Lake, U.S. Senate Candidate from Arizona. Harrison Butker with some sage advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show
is kicking off right now, and let's.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Just dive right into it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There's other stuff to talk about as well, but you know,
the inflation, the economy, the border. Biden throwing down the
gauntlet very feebly, very.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Weak fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I would argue, he is saying that he wants two
debates with Donald Trump. So at least as of now,
there does seem to be the likelihood of presidential debates.
It is not a fete complie, It is not something
that has already set in stone. There's negotiating happening, but
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this is the two prize fighters sizing each other up
and looking at each other from across the ring. Joe
Biden stumbling as he does so. Here he is with
a video put out to try to antagonize the trump Ster.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty
cents that he hadn't shown up for debate. Now he's
acting like he wants to debate me again. Will make
my day, Pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's
pick the dates. Donald, I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Little joke there at the end about how Trump is
facing a criminal prosecution that we know has been aided
and cheered on by Biden's doj so haha, weaponization of
government and the destruction of legal norms. But let's look
at what is offered here. The devil is in the details.
Clay Biden, first off, June and September very interesting. June
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strikes me as very early.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know, go back.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
June strikes me as very early, and I will get
into why that.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I think it's obvious, right, they got to turn things around.
They've got to turn the momentum around. It's real. The
polls are speaking very clearly on this. But what Biden
is saying is the follower his team. I should say, Clay,
we got the following provisos, no audience, no RFK junior,
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no Trump remarks during Biden's answers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, everyone agrees to that, but people always interrupt each.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Other and the Biden leaning or Biden leading outlets of CBS, ABC, CNN,
and Telemundo. So he's got a whole bunch of requirements
for this, and it's based on networks that hosted Republican
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debates primary events in twenty sixteen and Democratic debates in
twenty twenty. So, Clay, what do you make of it?
I mean, is it happening, is it posturing? What's the
biggest takeaway? I think it's desperation from Biden. The cut
that you played.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
People can't see the video, but I believe there were
five or six cuts in that twenty second video. And
for people out there who don't understand what that means,
you and I are waiving right now at the video
feed of the Clay and Buck radio show. There will
not be a single cut that will occur for the
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entire three hour show. It's you and me sitting talking
and everybody can look directly at that camera. There isn't
a jump around, there's no edit, there's no teleprompter. This
is live, and there is no safety net, as you
can well tell, because sometimes we fall into the safety net,
but or fall where the safety net would be. But
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Biden had to have several cuts there. So here's what
I think is going on. I think that there is
desperation inside of the Biden camp.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think they.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Felt a small measure of uplift from Biden's performance at
the State of the Union when he didn't fall all
over his face. And I think wanting a debate to
take place on June twenty seven is about trying to
convince Democrats, Hey, Biden's going to be okay June twenty seventh,
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nine pm Eastern on CNN. We know that that's going
to be a rigged referee. We don't know who the
moderator will be. The other one is going to be
in September Buck, So I think what they're trying to
do is they recognized it was awful for them if
they didn't debate, but they want to have the debates
as early as possible. So if they get them done
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by September, then they can go run their campaign and
try to get their get out the vote campaign going
without having to worry about a disastrous October. I feel
like there's probably a couple of October surprises they've got
planned to try to drag down Trump. That would be
my bet, And so they're trying to get the debates
put behind them. So the story arc changes. One happens
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in the middle of the summer when a lot of
people aren't paying attention. The other one happens in September
before a lot of people are paying attention. It's desperate
designed to kind of placate the donors, but also have
the limited impact of an actual campaign. That's my thought
on the strategy.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So if my quick Google research here is correct, the
first twenty sixteen presidential debate was late September September twenty sixth,
at again twenty twenty, I'm not counting or not looking
at because COVID and I think you could argue that
was everything was very different than it would be in
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a normal election year twenty sixteen, though the first presidential
debate was September twenty sixth. So point here is offering
to go in June is a move right, that's not
just a thing. There's a willingness to try to get
this done a lot sooner than they would otherwise because
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Biden is an incumbent who is trailing and they have
to stop that, and they figure, I think this is
their calculation, Clay. They can put Biden on the stage,
give him whatever they need to give him so that
he gets through the hour of the two hours, whatever
it is, and then all summer we hear Joe still
got it. He's you know, look what he did against
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Trump on the stage, and I think that that is
the thing that they're trying to pull off, because otherwise
the numbers right now indicate that this is only going
in one direction, and it's toward a Trump victory. So
for an incumbent president to even think about debating in
June of the election year, I don't think there's any
way to see it other than what you said, which
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is a desperation, a recognition that they're losing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You only would do this.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean the thing of if you were the president,
Clay and you were up by five points or ten
points nationally on the challenger, you'd be like, Yeah, I'm
gonna let the summer do its thing, and I'm gonna
come in in September and then I'm going to clean
your clock. Right, Yes, June June is I need to
get on that debate stage as soon as possible to
change the momentum. Here's the other thing I would point out,
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we got a big steak dinner to me. The June
twenty seventh debate could also be about Biden having to
respond to donors who don't think he should be the guy,
and so they want to do this June twenty seventh
to put things to rest before the Democrat convention in August,
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and I would just put out there if Trump shows
up and cleans Biden's clock and whatever drug cocktail they're
firing up with Biden, whatever drug cocktail he has, doesn't
work like it has in the past. Remember, this will
theoretically be off teleprompter. And I do think all of
the debate parameters matter. Here a great deal. Who's the moderator?
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How much time can you spend on the prompter? If
I'm the Biden team, I want like five minute opening
statements that my candidates can read directly off the prompter.
I want a five minute closing statement that my candidates
can read off the prompter. I probably want an hour
and a half debate instead of a two hour debate,
maybe even an hour debate. I want to whittle down
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I want commercial breaks. I want to whittle down the
actual amount of time that my candidate has to be
standing there on the stage talking without any prompting. I
also want an ear piece where somebody might be able
to talk to him. I really think the details surrounding
how this debate is set up are a big deal. Now,
remember that we do know some of this and Trump
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just tweeted out buck or sorry truth doubt.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We have the dates now. Trump has agreed to them,
and he's asking for more debates. I don't think that
Biden's team will give them. But we got June twenty seventh,
a Thursday in late June, in the middle of the summer,
that will be taking place in Atlanta. We don't know
about a studio audience. We don't know the moderator. The
other one will be on ABC News on September tenth.
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So it's not only that it's in September, Buck, it's earlier.
The latest debate in this cycle is earlier than the
earliest debate has ever been in the Trump era.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
They're moving it up for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
This is Trump responding to Biden's challenge here of a
duel on the stage. This was on Hugh Hewitt's show.
This is cut to play it.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Oh absolutely, I've been trying to get you know, he's
issuing it. I wonder whether or not he shows up,
because you know, he also challenges me to golf. So
I'm a very good golfer. He can't hit a ball
fifty yards he said, I'll give him three aside, but
he knows he'll never play. This is sort of like that,
I think, but I hope not, because I really think
he has the debate, he might as well get it
up with. Probably should do it early so that he can.
(09:43):
You know, he's not going to get any better.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think it is true, he's not going to get
any better. But they've had to show their hand here
a bit. There is no way anyone can see the
schedule of the debates as proposed to the Trump team
from Biden, and now it seems to be agreed upon,
at least in terms of the rough you know, the
overall outline of things. You can't see this and think
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anything other than Joe Biden is in a weak spot
for an incumbent president. Yes, especially an incumbent president it
was facing four criminal trials. An incumbent president, to Democrats say,
is the biggest threat to America since the Civil War,
a bigger threat than nine to eleven. I mean, they've
said all this insane stuff a million times now, and
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somehow it seems a majority of the country would rather
have that guy in charge than the guy who's currently
in charge. What does that tell you? You know, I
always wonder what the emotional fallout will be this day.
If Trump broke them by winning in twenty sixteen, what
happens after you're emotionally broken?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Other thing that I would factor in is great question.
The Hunter Biden trials theoretically are going to be taking
place when this debate happens on June twenty seventh. Is
a lot of talk about it. Hunter is scheduled for
the gun charge on the East Coast June third, and
then I think it's something like June twentieth, Hunter is
scheduled on the tax charges. There's a big story out there.
(11:14):
We'll talk about it a little bit. Wonder how the
timing on this implicates that, and again there are a
lot of devil in the details. I would think, I'm
curious if you would agree we'll talk about it more
that Trump probably wants a live audience. I would think
who they select as the moderator to kind of think
about this. If you know CNN's hosting it, who's the
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best moderator? In your mind you know CNN, well, who
would be the fairest moderator that you could hope for
if you're Trump? Because remember a lot of times there's
a rig job going on, and Biden gets protected, kind
of like a ref. If he's in the corner getting pummeled,
the ref comes in and pulls Trump off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think this is funny because you have the guy
who's officially banned from CNN asking the guy who's de
facto bet yeah CNN about the CNN roster.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh gosh, the best think about it. We'll go to
break here. It's a tease. We'll think about it during
the breakome while.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But I have a question for you that I want
to I want to I want to tease on top
of your teas here double and I want to do
double t. It is how would you advise Trump? And
we certainly know some of his top people listening to
the show, and we appreciate that. How will you advise Trump?
Because we know Trump has different speeds? Should he go
full Trump up there? There's I want to discuss that too,
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Speaker 7 (13:37):
From the front lines of freedom and truth, Clave Travis
and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Big breaking news out there. In the event that you
have not heard it. We are reacting to it. Two
debates agreed to, at least the first of which would
happen very soon from now June twenty seven at nine
pm Eastern on CNN, the second debate September tenth, ABC.
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Unprecedented early debate dates, especially the one in June, which
we have never seen the likes of before. That is
prior to both the Republican National Convention and the Democrat
National Convention.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And we are talking.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
About who would be the fairest given the fact that
CNN is clearly going to be biased against Trump, of
the potential debate moderators, Buck, you had a good idea
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Going to build on here. You said something that I
think is true.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Instead of giving the debate to a particular network, every
news station should be able to simulcast the debate CNN, MSNBC,
Fox News, ABCNBCCBS if they would like, every single network,
much like they cover the State of the Union or frankly,
Election Night, should be able to have have their own
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programming put it on for everybody to watch, get the
biggest possible audience YouTube Twitter.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ever, I agree, I.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Think that's a really really good idea instead of giving
it to a network.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I would build on it this.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Way if we truly wanted to have the fairest possible moderators.
In that construct, I think that Fox News should pick
a moderator, and I think that MSNBC should pick a moderator,
and every question from MSNBC should go to Trump. That is,
they're not allowed to question Biden, and every question from
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Fox News should go to Biden. And that way you
would have the perceived right and the perceived left, each
having their moderator asking questions of the person on the
opposite side of the political spectrum from them. Would it
be super fair, I don't know, but it would at
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least give the impromoture of I think, the fairest possible
degree of questioning, because it would be, on its face,
potentially antagonistic in nature. Biden's not going to sit for
a Fox News interview. I don't even think MSNBC would
let Trump sit for an MSNBC interview if he wanted to.
I think that would be the fairest way to set
it up.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, MSNBC couldn't let Trump in the building, or they
would go bankrupt paying for all the therapy for their
employees afterwards, so we know that's.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Not going to fly.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think that the old format, Remember, presidential debates are
a relatively new phenomenon because a lot of us have
never lived in an era where there weren't presidential debates
like this that are televised. We just assume this is
part of the whole day. You know, we were a
republic having elections for a long time before there were
debates on TV, before there were TVs. Even so there's
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no reason why we shouldn't be able to adjust this
format for the digital era. I think, you know, the
Elon Ron De Santis primary launch was suboptimal, so maybe
there's a little less a focus on doing things digitally
than there would have been otherwise. But I think that
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this should be treated exactly like we talked about, like
a State of the Union address. It should just be
considered effectively property of the public, to be distributed on
platforms as they see fit and to monetize as they can.
Because there's also inherent favoritism in all of this, right
in the digital era, deciding to give it to ABC
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and not NPR is giving ABC tens of millions of
dollars of publicity.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I mean they sell ads. I think all the programming
on Shoulder programming. You're right, it effectively is a donation
to the business of that network. I mean, CNN's biggest
audience this year, by far, will be this September twenty
seventh debate. I agree with you one hundred percent. I
think that every network should be able to cover the debate,
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and it should be broadcast as widely as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I think that is fairer, and.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Obviously you should all be not just fair use it
should be you could stream do anything you want with
it afterwards. And there's no question. This isn't the oscars, right,
It's not. You have twenty four hours, then you can
it's the state of the Union. Yeah, it's to be
treated like the state of the Union. So I the
other part of this is Republicans need to learn the lesson.
You know, there have been people who have used their
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used their influence. These networks have put their thumb on
the scale for Democrats in the past in ways that
may well have been significant. I mean, I do think
that the single most significant debate.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Cheating isn't the right.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Word, but you know, pushing for one side was when
Kendy Crowley backed Obama up and she was she was wrong,
And there was this whole game about Barack Obama and
whether he said when he was up against Mit Romney
that it was an active terror in Benghazi on September eleventh.
So we've already been burned on this. I don't know
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why we think that we have to stick with the
traditions of the past, but looks like they're going to
do it. You want to get to some of these
as a lot of opinions on this. When we got
to let's see, uh, Bob in wait, really in Moscow, Russia,
not Moscow, Idaho, Moscow, Russia.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's going on? Bob?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Right?
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Hey, yes, I'm stationed in Moscow, Russia. But President Trump
has to pull the rope of DOPA technique by Mohammad
Ali in the first debate. He has to sit back there,
take every punch, smile, don't overreact, don't react because this
will frustrate Biden and the Democrats. The reason is they're
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using this debate to decide if they're going to change
the candidate Biden for someone else.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think this is significant and I don't know how
many other people are gonna say it. I don't think
you're going to sign on to it, Buck, I don't know.
I don't know that I agree about the way Trump
should approach it. The only reason why to me, there
would be a June debate before the Republican primary and
before the Democrat primary is because there's a lot of
nervousness about Biden's performance, and this is designed for him
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to come out and say I'm the guy. Look at
what great fighting for my men. Trump's got no shot
against me, and if he bombs, I think the pressure
would get ratcheted up in a hurry that Biden doesn't
have the mental and physical ability to do this.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You buy that or no?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Wait, so are we trying to say now that the
debates are part of the grand scheme to replace Biden
with Michelle Obama at the convention.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
There's a grand scheme. To me, there's no reason for
a June debate before the Republican convention and significantly before
the Democrat convention if you one hundred percent believe your.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Guy is the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I think, much like the State of the Union, this
is a show me moment for Joe Biden. They Democrats
want to see that he's able to do this. And
if he is, then they look at it and they say, okay,
we've only got to go out one more time September tenth.
And but if he's not, then you look at it
and say, okay, it's time to pull the plug, and
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that it gives them time to do it, to open
up the convention.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, why else, I mean, just just think about.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It, because he's losing, and he can't go into the
summer with the current trends as they are, because you're
going to be heading into Remember he's the incumbent, he
should be.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
If he were.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Only two or three points ahead of Trump, we'd be saying,
oh wow, these are not going. Yeah, he's behind, and
effectively all but maybe one swing state at this point
is a far ward. It's bizarre for us because we've
never had this. We've never been saying, hold on, is
Trump being treated too well by the polls or you know,
we've never been in this position before. They have to
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turn the momentum around before we get into the thick
of the election cycle, because you know, it's like running
into the fourth quarter. If you're behind by too much,
you can't make up the difference. Okay, I don't disagree
with that. My problem with that is June. What is
the date here, June twenty seventh, seventh, Yeah, is only.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
A couple of weeks before the Republican Convention. So whatever
happens on June twenty seventh is, first of all, it's
the middle of the summer. Second, it's going to get
drowned out within like ten or twelve days by the
huge Republican convention and the fact that Trump, theoretically, as
he told this yesterday, is going to be announcing his
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vice president.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So even if.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Biden came out on June twenty seventh and looked like
the greatest debater since Lincoln Douglas debates back in you know,
eighteen fifty six, I think even if that were to occur,
then he still would not be able to have much
lasting impact. To me, this is a prove it to
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us moment, because if you replace Biden, then there's only
one debate for Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsome or whomever
the other candidate would be, and you're just trying to run,
you know, sort of the maybe they ask for more
debates than I don't know, but the June twenty seventh debate,
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it's ominous for me, for Joe Biden, it just doesn't
add up.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's it's definitely not happening because things are going so
well for them. That's correction. We agree on that. Let's
do Dean in Florida. Dean's got he's got a suggestion
here for the debates.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What's up, Dean.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
So here's my idea, guys.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
I say each president ficks his own moderator, one each
like Tucker her callers, Techer Carlson would be a great
for Trump, and then whoever Biden wants, they both get
answered the same question from each moderator to answer it.
They press on back and forth, back and forth, like
a duel, and then at the no teleprompters, no earbuds,
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no holds barred, you get two hours.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
I don't I don't dislike that idea. It's kind of
like a second in a duel. You get to pick
your guy who's going to be there to help you
in the duel. I don't think they would go for
it because I think the Biden team would say, oh
my goodness, who's Trump going to pick? And I think
probably Biden would pick who would be picked Rachel Maddow.
Rachel Maddow Tucker potentially would be I think really great
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riveting television. I also think you get honest answers that
would eliminate this is my argument on Fox News should
pick someone, in MSNBCC should pick one, and they should
only ask the opposing party. In theory, I think that
would at least address the moderation and try to balance
it out to give us a fairer content.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The other way you could do this would be to
really make it very fair but very sterile. And the
way to do that would be a moderator who uh,
they're they're going to propose, They're going to let them
know what the topics, maybe even the questions are openly,
let them know what they are in advance, and then
really just allow dueling monologues where you have sixty seconds
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and the other person's mic is cut and then you
have sixty seconds. I mean, you know, you could construct
something that would be truly equal time and that would
be truly unslanted by the moderators, But I don't think
it would be good TV. And that's the other challenge
of this. As long as there's an interest in making
it good TV for ratings purposes, because there's millions of
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dollars of revenue attached to this, you know, and also
the branding for the network. I mean having your host. Look,
I'll say it right now. If they offered to have
Clay and I do the moderation, we would do it
because it's obviously great branding for your show or your
your platform, whatever it is to do it. As long
as that's the case, the incentives are not to have
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it be truly fair. The incentives are to have it
be the best TV you can create. One more idea here,
as we go to break a mote with piranhas in it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm just kidding. I love that.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I think Trump should demand drug testing. I don't even
know what the drug testing could reveal. I'm not I mean,
I don't think Trump or Biden are doing coke or
you know, like using hard drugs.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Joe Biden's taking steroids. Take a little trend on the side.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's got some got some tea, some Exhaustina's testosterone he's taken.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I'm just saying I would love to see the drug
test results. I think it would be funny for it
for Trump to say it, like, just come out and
say they're shooting Biden up with something horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know what they're putting in. Is there want?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I feel like I'm pretty pretty well versed from just
I find pharmacology. Is that the right thing to be
pretty fascinating area of I actually have a couple of
books at holding and I'm reading now on the discovery
of new drugs and things. Is there something you can
give an old person to make them sharp for a while,
like if you fill them with Riddlin or something?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I think?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do we have any anyone out there who has a
psych who's a psychiatrist or as an MD who could
speak to this, because everyone who says there's shooting Biden
up with stuff, I'm like, where was that stuff when
I was taking final exams?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, it's a great question, and uh, well everybody's on
adderall now?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Is the answer to you? I mean like, it's just
like a lot of caffeine. Really, I mean, I don't
think if you have dementia that's not It might help
you focus and be alert, but you know, if you're
if you have dementia, adderall is not gonna I don't
think that's gonna save you, is it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't know, No, I don't. This is a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
If you're a doctor out there and you were given
the opportunity to prescribe something to someone in advance of
a debate that you think would help their performance, is
there a drug that you could take short?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'm not talking about something you pained for years.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Really, we want to know what drug is doctor Jill
Biden prescribing from him out of her extensive MD knowledge.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We're gonna get angry emails about this.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
We know she's not a real indeed, we know, but
I would love to hear from doctors out there. What
could you do to make some you know, like they
do beta blockers for golfers, it's a big deal because
it lowers your stress, makes you a better putter. Obviously,
steroids are out there and make people stronger and better athletes.
What could you take for something for a debate to
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Speaker 7 (29:02):
Slat Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are both super excited
to welcome in right now with US Arizona Senate candidate
Carrie Lake. Carrie, we got a lot to hit run
through with you, but let's start here. I know that
it is a national presidential election that's underway, but when
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you hear Biden want to debate on June twenty seventh
and on September tenth. What do you think that debate
will be like for Trump and Biden? And what does
it tell you that Biden wants debates so soon? Your state,
Arizona is a battleground state. How is the national election
playing and how do you think all that will implicate
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your race?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Oh, I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean,
it's gonna be musty TV. It's interesting. You know, he
acted like mister tough guy in this video, but when
you reach this small print, he's got a lot of
requirements for that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he
knows he's been boot off the stage by just everyday
average Americans, you know, even Democrats. I'm out in the field,
(30:11):
I'm out campaigning right now, and I'm going to town,
and the crowds are increasingly growing with Democrats who are
attending to hear what I have to say about turning
Arizona around and helping our country. They are set up
the sky high Inflation's affecting them just as it's affecting Republicans.
So I think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at
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this point. But it's going to be great. President Trump,
no matter what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will
win this debate. I'm putting all my money on President Trump,
and I think the rest of this country is as well.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Hey, Kerry, thanks, thanks for being here with us. The
way they're structuring this, let's assume that Trump more or
less agrees to the laundry list of things that Biden wants.
You were as certainly people in Area Zona now I
think a lot of other folks now have come to
know this as well. About you a TV news anchor
(31:05):
for decades, right, so you've you've been in the media
game for a long time before you were running for
politics on political office. What do you think the best
way is that this should be structured. Is there even
a moderator that you think would be acceptable to both
sides that would work in this case? How do you
break that down?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
It's gonna be tough because you know, so many people
are if you say one nice thing about President Trump,
they say, oh, you're maga and you're not fair anymore.
But I think there are moderators who could. I've done debates,
I've moderated debates and forums before, and you know, you
have to check your beliefs and your views to the
side and just be fair. And I think there's a
lot of people right now who could do that. You know,
(31:48):
Joe Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan
is a Republican or a Democrat. I think he's truly independent.
Scott Adams. I can think John Solomon is a true
journalist out there. Maria Bartiro, she would be great because
she understands the economy, you know, and all of the
questions that are going to be based on the economy.
You need to have someone who truly understands what they're
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talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
By by the way, breaking news.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I think we should have a live audience, absolutely, and
maybe even take some questions from the audience.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,
this just came from Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
He says he wants Biden to debate him on Fox
News Wednesday, October two, twenty twenty four. Host would be
Brett Behar and Martha McCollum. That's interesting, So that literally
just came down from Trump. All right, let's go to Arizona,
New York Times. Ciena Polling, I'm sure you get all
sorts of polls that are currently underway in Arizona showed
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Trump opening up a substantial.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Lead in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
You are in a super tight race with Ruben Diego,
your opponent out there. Do you think Trump is winning
Arizona right now? First part of this question, like the
New York Times Siena poll showed, and what makes you
think that you can catch Ruben to the extent you're
behind or do you think you're up right now based
on what you see polling data wise?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Well, I saw that poll and I had a meeting
yesterday with my polster, and we're really happy with that poll.
First of all, when you look at the fine print
in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though Republicans have
a large edge over Democrats. So when you rewait that
poll with what the actual voters are and what they
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the turnout will be here in Arizona, we're actually up
or tied. But regardless of how you look at it,
we're right there in the margin of era. It's going
to be close. President Trump, I believe is up bigger
than what the New York Times poll says. He's up.
I'm on the streets of Arizona every day, and you've
got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far
(33:53):
left Chicago Democrat frankly marks this opponent. He just spent
seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a
bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a
moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever
run in the state of Arizona and possibly in the country.
He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC, look almost moderate.
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He just spent seven million dollars and did not see
a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.
They just announced they're going to put twenty million more
in ads. Listen if they want to flush money down
the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are
awake to who Reuben Diego is. He's voted for the
open border policies. He's pro sanctuary city. He marched and
defund the police rallies. He has voted in one hundred
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percent in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason we're
seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're seeing
crisis that we can't even afford. It's because he has
pushed these disastrous, dead end policies that Joe Biden is pushing.
The scary thing is he's a Biden mini me when
it comes to policy, but he's forty years younger. So
if we don't stop him right now, we're going to
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have a guy who, for forty years can bring a
reign of terror on this country if he is elected
into the US Senate. And that's why we all have
to get out, get registered to vote, start talking to
our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody can
afford to sit home this next election. I feel confident
that President Trump will win and sweep Arizona, and I
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feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me.
He wants me to help him out when I get
to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda
pushed through.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So we're talking to.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical Senate seat in
Arizona carry. I'm just wanting you mentioned some of the
big ticket items, if you will, things like the border, inflation,
the economy, those are all trending against Biden and all
the Democrats who go along with him, like Diegos, your
opponent in this race. What about the campus protests and
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the Biden administrations knifing Israel in the back. Is that
nationally we know that has some real implications. We're seeing
it planned in Michigan. Does it have any implications as
you can see it in Arizona, whether it's the protests,
a law, or the foreign policy disasters?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh boy, hot, every I mean, it just shows he's
showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and
it's going to make things worse for us when it
comes to foreign policy. Right now, you know, Biden is
a laughing stock that nobody respects them, nobody fears him.
We used to have peace through strength, Now we have
war through weakness, and so on the foreign policy side,
(36:28):
it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm
seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.
This young group of people that are in college right
now about ready to graduate, are waking up to the
fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,
his policies are killing them. And they're waking up and
realizing that we have to get back to a strong
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economy as they get ready to go into the workforce.
You know, the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think
it was three point four percent unemployment, but when you
look closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's
eleven point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the
things that they used to buy four or five years
ago are in some cases more than twice as much
(37:11):
money right now. So they're looking at themselves entering into
a job market that's very shaky for them, not being
able to afford the basic necessities, not being able to
afford rent, and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans.
So and plus they're watching all of that chaos on
the campus, which they're finding out is funded by a
(37:31):
bunch of people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden
and my opponent Ruben Gyego, the people funding all of
that chaos tearing their campus apart, are behind people like Biden,
Ruben Gego and other leftists who are destroying our country.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, I saw the Arizona State freck. Guys.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
I'm sure you saw that video cleaning up the mess
from the Palestinian protesters, and it went super viral and
I loved it as we saw a lot of people
on campus standing up to them.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Question for you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Abortion has been a mess all over the country, in
particular focused in Arizona eighteen sixty four law. The Arizona
Supreme Court involved the state legislature of both the House
and the Senate. I believe have addressed this. What is
going on there? How much of an issue do you believe,
not only statewide but also for the national election, given
(38:24):
how close it's going to be there is abortion going
to play? What are you hearing on the ground and
what's the situation likely to be by the time people
start headed to the polls.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue,
But the real fact of the matter is when people
can't afford groceries, when people can't afford gasoline, when they're
being evicted from their apartment because they can't afford the
rent anymore. When we're watching as twelve million people pour
across their border and drive down wages because it's cheap labor,
and we have to put the bill for putting them
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up in housing them services, I think that it takes
a back burner. It really is on the back burner.
Were back to the law that we had for several years,
the fifteen week law. It was approved and voted in
by both Republicans and Democrats, and a Republican governor signed
it into law. That is our current law in Arizona,
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and I believe people when they get to the polls
will decide on that. We will have the choice between
the fifteen week law and a planned parents who voter
initiative that will pretty much legalize abortion right up until birth.
So I agree with President Trump. It's going to be
up to the states. The people of Arizona will decide
which law they want, and I'm running for US Senate,
so this is now in the hands of the state.
(39:38):
But I will tell you this as a US Senator,
I will never vote to approve federal funding to support abortion.
I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.
I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left
up to the states. But what I do want to
see guys, is that we work with pro family legislation
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to encourage families. Watch our population growth. It's going way down.
We're actually going to be at a critical point if
we don't start growing families and having babies in this country,
and so I want to push good pro family laws.
In Hungary, I had a chance to visit with Victor
Orbon about a year ago, and I noticed that they
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had cut their abortion rate in half, nearly in half,
and they never changed a single law. They did it
through pro family legislation to encourage people to start a
family and grow their family. And you know this, just
as I do, that the country is only as strong
as our most important institution, and that institution is the family.
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And right now the foundation of our families is pretty shaky,
and we need to do something to change that. And
I'll be the most pro family senator in the US.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Senate Kerry Lake running for Senate Carrie. We're going to
keep talking to you. Is this guy's closer and this
audience is going to help out. So thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Thank you visit Terrylake dot com and support our campaign.
We're going to bring about some good American first policies
to turn this Biden nightmare around.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You know, Carrie was just talking to us about the
family and expanding the American family by having more and
more children, and how in other places even they figured
out ways to save many lives. She talked about a
voluntary drop in the number of abortions in Hungary, about
fifty percent. This is the battle that we're in here
(41:26):
in this country right now as well. Abortion is not
illegal in a majority of states, nowhere near it. In fact,
a lot of states have had an increase in abortions
post Row v.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Wade's end.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So there's something that can be done about it to
save lives. Right now. We can continue to have this
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Speaker 5 (43:50):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, finishing up
the Wednesday edition of the program. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We have He's got a clip
that I want to play for Buck. This is Harrison Butker,
who is the Kansas City chiefs Kicker. He was speaking
(44:11):
at a recent event, a Catholic graduation for a college
and he talked about women and the idea of being
homemakers based on his own success in life. It has
blown up into a major controversy. Buck has not heard it.
Let's play cut twenty nine.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
I want to speak directly to you briefly because I
think it is you, the women who have had the
most diabolical lives told to you. How many of you
are sitting here now about to cross this stage and
are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are
going to get in your career. Some of you may
go on to lead successful careers in the world, but
I would venture to guess that the majority of you
are most excited about your marriage and the children you
(44:52):
will bring into this world. I can tell you that
my beautiful wife. Isabelle would be the first to say
that her life truly started when she began living her
voca as a wife and as a mother. I'm on
this stage today and able to be the man I
am because I have a wife who leans into her location.
I beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me.
But it cannot be overstated that all of my success
(45:14):
is made possible because a girl I met in being
class back in middle school would convert to the faith,
become my wife, and embrace one of the most important
titles of all homemaker.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Sounds great contract. I love it, ten out of ten,
ten out of.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Ten to you.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
He was speaking at the Benedictine College at Atchinson, Kansas.
If I messed any of that up, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I'll say, first of all, I mean, this is so
important and there need to be far more people that
are talking about this. I career switched out of the
CIA into media, and I did so now in retrospect,
at the expense of starting a family earlier. And that's
a tough call, and I would not recommend it for
most people. I would recommend people getting married younger and
starting their families younger, I would not do what's very
(46:01):
normal here in New York City, which is push as
hard as you can until forty and then turn around
and build your life as you want it then, because honestly,
whether you make VP at Goldman or you make partner
at the law firm or whatever, it's just not going
to matter in the end. Your kids, your family, your
loved ones, your wife, your husband, That's what's going to
matter in the end.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And I already know that that's well said by you.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I give credit to Harrison Vucker here because I know
so many of you out there are raising families. I
became a dad at twenty eight. To your point, Buck,
I was relatively young.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Which is like in New York City terms, might as
well be high school age, Like that's really young.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah, I was super young to become a dad, relatively speaking,
especially for somebody who stayed in school till twenty five
to become a lawyer. It's the right decision. I'm so
glad that I did it, but it had a lot
of struggles. We didn't have a lot of money. My
wife and I early in our life, we were spending
more money on childcare than we would have had to
pay for tuition and life got a lot better when
(47:01):
we had the ability to have one parent stay at home.
It can be the dad or the mom, but that
is ideal and I think that's really what Harrison Bucker's
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Why are they mad at it? That's a question. Crazy
d
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show
is kicking off right now, and let's.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Just dive right into it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There's other stuff to talk about as well, but you know,
the inflation, the economy, the border. Biden throwing down the
gauntlet very feebly, very.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Weak fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I would argue, he is saying that he wants two
debates with Donald Trump. So at least as of now,
there does seem to be the likelihood of presidential debates.
It is not a fete complie, It is not something
that has already set in stone. There's negotiating happening, but
(00:47):
this is the two prize fighters sizing each other up
and looking at each other from across the ring. Joe
Biden stumbling as he does so. Here he is with
a video put out to try to antagonize the trump Ster.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty
cents that he hadn't shown up for debate. Now he's
acting like he wants to debate me again. Will make
my day, Pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's
pick the dates. Donald, I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Little joke there at the end about how Trump is
facing a criminal prosecution that we know has been aided
and cheered on by Biden's doj so haha, weaponization of
government and the destruction of legal norms. But let's look
at what is offered here. The devil is in the details.
Clay Biden, first off, June and September very interesting. June
(01:41):
strikes me as very early.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know, go back.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
June strikes me as very early, and I will get
into why that.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I think it's obvious, right, they got to turn things around.
They've got to turn the momentum around. It's real. The
polls are speaking very clearly on this. But what Biden
is saying is the follower his team. I should say, Clay,
we got the following provisos, no audience, no RFK junior,
(02:11):
no Trump remarks during Biden's answers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, everyone agrees to that, but people always interrupt each.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Other and the Biden leaning or Biden leading outlets of CBS, ABC, CNN,
and Telemundo. So he's got a whole bunch of requirements
for this, and it's based on networks that hosted Republican
(02:36):
debates primary events in twenty sixteen and Democratic debates in
twenty twenty. So, Clay, what do you make of it?
I mean, is it happening, is it posturing? What's the
biggest takeaway? I think it's desperation from Biden. The cut
that you played.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
People can't see the video, but I believe there were
five or six cuts in that twenty second video. And
for people out there who don't understand what that means,
you and I are waiving right now at the video
feed of the Clay and Buck radio show. There will
not be a single cut that will occur for the
(03:14):
entire three hour show. It's you and me sitting talking
and everybody can look directly at that camera. There isn't
a jump around, there's no edit, there's no teleprompter. This
is live, and there is no safety net, as you
can well tell, because sometimes we fall into the safety net,
but or fall where the safety net would be. But
(03:36):
Biden had to have several cuts there. So here's what
I think is going on. I think that there is
desperation inside of the Biden camp.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think they.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Felt a small measure of uplift from Biden's performance at
the State of the Union when he didn't fall all
over his face. And I think wanting a debate to
take place on June twenty seven is about trying to
convince Democrats, Hey, Biden's going to be okay June twenty seventh,
(04:09):
nine pm Eastern on CNN. We know that that's going
to be a rigged referee. We don't know who the
moderator will be. The other one is going to be
in September Buck, So I think what they're trying to
do is they recognized it was awful for them if
they didn't debate, but they want to have the debates
as early as possible. So if they get them done
(04:32):
by September, then they can go run their campaign and
try to get their get out the vote campaign going
without having to worry about a disastrous October. I feel
like there's probably a couple of October surprises they've got
planned to try to drag down Trump. That would be
my bet, And so they're trying to get the debates
put behind them. So the story arc changes. One happens
(04:56):
in the middle of the summer when a lot of
people aren't paying attention. The other one happens in September
before a lot of people are paying attention. It's desperate
designed to kind of placate the donors, but also have
the limited impact of an actual campaign. That's my thought
on the strategy.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So if my quick Google research here is correct, the
first twenty sixteen presidential debate was late September September twenty sixth,
at again twenty twenty, I'm not counting or not looking
at because COVID and I think you could argue that
was everything was very different than it would be in
(05:31):
a normal election year twenty sixteen, though the first presidential
debate was September twenty sixth. So point here is offering
to go in June is a move right, that's not
just a thing. There's a willingness to try to get
this done a lot sooner than they would otherwise because
(05:52):
Biden is an incumbent who is trailing and they have
to stop that, and they figure, I think this is
their calculation, Clay. They can put Biden on the stage,
give him whatever they need to give him so that
he gets through the hour of the two hours, whatever
it is, and then all summer we hear Joe still
got it. He's you know, look what he did against
(06:13):
Trump on the stage, and I think that that is
the thing that they're trying to pull off, because otherwise
the numbers right now indicate that this is only going
in one direction, and it's toward a Trump victory. So
for an incumbent president to even think about debating in
June of the election year, I don't think there's any
way to see it other than what you said, which
(06:34):
is a desperation, a recognition that they're losing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You only would do this.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean the thing of if you were the president,
Clay and you were up by five points or ten
points nationally on the challenger, you'd be like, Yeah, I'm
gonna let the summer do its thing, and I'm gonna
come in in September and then I'm going to clean
your clock. Right, Yes, June June is I need to
get on that debate stage as soon as possible to
change the momentum. Here's the other thing I would point out,
(07:00):
we got a big steak dinner to me. The June
twenty seventh debate could also be about Biden having to
respond to donors who don't think he should be the guy,
and so they want to do this June twenty seventh
to put things to rest before the Democrat convention in August,
(07:21):
and I would just put out there if Trump shows
up and cleans Biden's clock and whatever drug cocktail they're
firing up with Biden, whatever drug cocktail he has, doesn't
work like it has in the past. Remember, this will
theoretically be off teleprompter. And I do think all of
the debate parameters matter. Here a great deal. Who's the moderator?
(07:44):
How much time can you spend on the prompter? If
I'm the Biden team, I want like five minute opening
statements that my candidates can read directly off the prompter.
I want a five minute closing statement that my candidates
can read off the prompter. I probably want an hour
and a half debate instead of a two hour debate,
maybe even an hour debate. I want to whittle down
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I want commercial breaks. I want to whittle down the
actual amount of time that my candidate has to be
standing there on the stage talking without any prompting. I
also want an ear piece where somebody might be able
to talk to him. I really think the details surrounding
how this debate is set up are a big deal. Now,
remember that we do know some of this and Trump
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just tweeted out buck or sorry truth doubt.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We have the dates now. Trump has agreed to them,
and he's asking for more debates. I don't think that
Biden's team will give them. But we got June twenty seventh,
a Thursday in late June, in the middle of the summer,
that will be taking place in Atlanta. We don't know
about a studio audience. We don't know the moderator. The
other one will be on ABC News on September tenth.
(08:56):
So it's not only that it's in September, Buck, it's earlier.
The latest debate in this cycle is earlier than the
earliest debate has ever been in the Trump era.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
They're moving it up for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
This is Trump responding to Biden's challenge here of a
duel on the stage. This was on Hugh Hewitt's show.
This is cut to play it.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Oh absolutely, I've been trying to get you know, he's
issuing it. I wonder whether or not he shows up,
because you know, he also challenges me to golf. So
I'm a very good golfer. He can't hit a ball
fifty yards he said, I'll give him three aside, but
he knows he'll never play. This is sort of like that,
I think, but I hope not, because I really think
he has the debate, he might as well get it
up with. Probably should do it early so that he can.
(09:43):
You know, he's not going to get any better.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think it is true, he's not going to get
any better. But they've had to show their hand here
a bit. There is no way anyone can see the
schedule of the debates as proposed to the Trump team
from Biden, and now it seems to be agreed upon,
at least in terms of the rough you know, the
overall outline of things. You can't see this and think
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anything other than Joe Biden is in a weak spot
for an incumbent president. Yes, especially an incumbent president it
was facing four criminal trials. An incumbent president, to Democrats say,
is the biggest threat to America since the Civil War,
a bigger threat than nine to eleven. I mean, they've
said all this insane stuff a million times now, and
(10:35):
somehow it seems a majority of the country would rather
have that guy in charge than the guy who's currently
in charge. What does that tell you? You know, I
always wonder what the emotional fallout will be this day.
If Trump broke them by winning in twenty sixteen, what
happens after you're emotionally broken?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Other thing that I would factor in is great question.
The Hunter Biden trials theoretically are going to be taking
place when this debate happens on June twenty seventh. Is
a lot of talk about it. Hunter is scheduled for
the gun charge on the East Coast June third, and
then I think it's something like June twentieth, Hunter is
scheduled on the tax charges. There's a big story out there.
(11:14):
We'll talk about it a little bit. Wonder how the
timing on this implicates that, and again there are a
lot of devil in the details. I would think, I'm
curious if you would agree we'll talk about it more
that Trump probably wants a live audience. I would think
who they select as the moderator to kind of think
about this. If you know CNN's hosting it, who's the
(11:35):
best moderator? In your mind you know CNN, well, who
would be the fairest moderator that you could hope for
if you're Trump? Because remember a lot of times there's
a rig job going on, and Biden gets protected, kind
of like a ref. If he's in the corner getting pummeled,
the ref comes in and pulls Trump off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think this is funny because you have the guy
who's officially banned from CNN asking the guy who's de
facto bet yeah CNN about the CNN roster.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh gosh, the best think about it. We'll go to
break here. It's a tease. We'll think about it during
the breakome while.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But I have a question for you that I want
to I want to I want to tease on top
of your teas here double and I want to do
double t. It is how would you advise Trump? And
we certainly know some of his top people listening to
the show, and we appreciate that. How will you advise Trump?
Because we know Trump has different speeds? Should he go
full Trump up there? There's I want to discuss that too,
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Speaker 7 (13:37):
From the front lines of freedom and truth, Clave Travis
and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Big breaking news out there. In the event that you
have not heard it. We are reacting to it. Two
debates agreed to, at least the first of which would
happen very soon from now June twenty seven at nine
pm Eastern on CNN, the second debate September tenth, ABC.
(14:08):
Unprecedented early debate dates, especially the one in June, which
we have never seen the likes of before. That is
prior to both the Republican National Convention and the Democrat
National Convention.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And we are talking.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
About who would be the fairest given the fact that
CNN is clearly going to be biased against Trump, of
the potential debate moderators, Buck, you had a good idea
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Going to build on here. You said something that I
think is true.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Instead of giving the debate to a particular network, every
news station should be able to simulcast the debate CNN, MSNBC,
Fox News, ABCNBCCBS if they would like, every single network,
much like they cover the State of the Union or frankly,
Election Night, should be able to have have their own
(15:00):
programming put it on for everybody to watch, get the
biggest possible audience YouTube Twitter.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ever, I agree, I.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Think that's a really really good idea instead of giving
it to a network.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I would build on it this.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Way if we truly wanted to have the fairest possible moderators.
In that construct, I think that Fox News should pick
a moderator, and I think that MSNBC should pick a moderator,
and every question from MSNBC should go to Trump. That is,
they're not allowed to question Biden, and every question from
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Fox News should go to Biden. And that way you
would have the perceived right and the perceived left, each
having their moderator asking questions of the person on the
opposite side of the political spectrum from them. Would it
be super fair, I don't know, but it would at
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least give the impromoture of I think, the fairest possible
degree of questioning, because it would be, on its face,
potentially antagonistic in nature. Biden's not going to sit for
a Fox News interview. I don't even think MSNBC would
let Trump sit for an MSNBC interview if he wanted to.
I think that would be the fairest way to set
it up.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, MSNBC couldn't let Trump in the building, or they
would go bankrupt paying for all the therapy for their
employees afterwards, so we know that's.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Not going to fly.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think that the old format, Remember, presidential debates are
a relatively new phenomenon because a lot of us have
never lived in an era where there weren't presidential debates
like this that are televised. We just assume this is
part of the whole day. You know, we were a
republic having elections for a long time before there were
debates on TV, before there were TVs. Even so there's
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no reason why we shouldn't be able to adjust this
format for the digital era. I think, you know, the
Elon Ron De Santis primary launch was suboptimal, so maybe
there's a little less a focus on doing things digitally
than there would have been otherwise. But I think that
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this should be treated exactly like we talked about, like
a State of the Union address. It should just be
considered effectively property of the public, to be distributed on
platforms as they see fit and to monetize as they can.
Because there's also inherent favoritism in all of this, right
in the digital era, deciding to give it to ABC
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and not NPR is giving ABC tens of millions of
dollars of publicity.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I mean they sell ads. I think all the programming
on Shoulder programming. You're right, it effectively is a donation
to the business of that network. I mean, CNN's biggest
audience this year, by far, will be this September twenty
seventh debate. I agree with you one hundred percent. I
think that every network should be able to cover the debate,
(17:55):
and it should be broadcast as widely as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I think that is fairer, and.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Obviously you should all be not just fair use it
should be you could stream do anything you want with
it afterwards. And there's no question. This isn't the oscars, right,
It's not. You have twenty four hours, then you can
it's the state of the Union. Yeah, it's to be
treated like the state of the Union. So I the
other part of this is Republicans need to learn the lesson.
You know, there have been people who have used their
(18:21):
used their influence. These networks have put their thumb on
the scale for Democrats in the past in ways that
may well have been significant. I mean, I do think
that the single most significant debate.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Cheating isn't the right.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Word, but you know, pushing for one side was when
Kendy Crowley backed Obama up and she was she was wrong,
And there was this whole game about Barack Obama and
whether he said when he was up against Mit Romney
that it was an active terror in Benghazi on September eleventh.
So we've already been burned on this. I don't know
(18:54):
why we think that we have to stick with the
traditions of the past, but looks like they're going to
do it. You want to get to some of these
as a lot of opinions on this. When we got
to let's see, uh, Bob in wait, really in Moscow, Russia,
not Moscow, Idaho, Moscow, Russia.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's going on? Bob?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Right?
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Hey, yes, I'm stationed in Moscow, Russia. But President Trump
has to pull the rope of DOPA technique by Mohammad
Ali in the first debate. He has to sit back there,
take every punch, smile, don't overreact, don't react because this
will frustrate Biden and the Democrats. The reason is they're
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using this debate to decide if they're going to change
the candidate Biden for someone else.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think this is significant and I don't know how
many other people are gonna say it. I don't think
you're going to sign on to it, Buck, I don't know.
I don't know that I agree about the way Trump
should approach it. The only reason why to me, there
would be a June debate before the Republican primary and
before the Democrat primary is because there's a lot of
nervousness about Biden's performance, and this is designed for him
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to come out and say I'm the guy. Look at
what great fighting for my men. Trump's got no shot
against me, and if he bombs, I think the pressure
would get ratcheted up in a hurry that Biden doesn't
have the mental and physical ability to do this.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You buy that or no?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Wait, so are we trying to say now that the
debates are part of the grand scheme to replace Biden
with Michelle Obama at the convention.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
There's a grand scheme. To me, there's no reason for
a June debate before the Republican convention and significantly before
the Democrat convention if you one hundred percent believe your.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Guy is the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I think, much like the State of the Union, this
is a show me moment for Joe Biden. They Democrats
want to see that he's able to do this. And
if he is, then they look at it and they say, okay,
we've only got to go out one more time September tenth.
And but if he's not, then you look at it
and say, okay, it's time to pull the plug, and
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that it gives them time to do it, to open
up the convention.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean, why else, I mean, just just think about.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It, because he's losing, and he can't go into the
summer with the current trends as they are, because you're
going to be heading into Remember he's the incumbent, he
should be.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
If he were.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Only two or three points ahead of Trump, we'd be saying,
oh wow, these are not going. Yeah, he's behind, and
effectively all but maybe one swing state at this point
is a far ward. It's bizarre for us because we've
never had this. We've never been saying, hold on, is
Trump being treated too well by the polls or you know,
we've never been in this position before. They have to
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turn the momentum around before we get into the thick
of the election cycle, because you know, it's like running
into the fourth quarter. If you're behind by too much,
you can't make up the difference. Okay, I don't disagree
with that. My problem with that is June. What is
the date here, June twenty seventh, seventh, Yeah, is only.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
A couple of weeks before the Republican Convention. So whatever
happens on June twenty seventh is, first of all, it's
the middle of the summer. Second, it's going to get
drowned out within like ten or twelve days by the
huge Republican convention and the fact that Trump, theoretically, as
he told this yesterday, is going to be announcing his
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vice president.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So even if.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Biden came out on June twenty seventh and looked like
the greatest debater since Lincoln Douglas debates back in you know,
eighteen fifty six, I think even if that were to occur,
then he still would not be able to have much
lasting impact. To me, this is a prove it to
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us moment, because if you replace Biden, then there's only
one debate for Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsome or whomever
the other candidate would be, and you're just trying to run,
you know, sort of the maybe they ask for more
debates than I don't know, but the June twenty seventh debate,
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it's ominous for me, for Joe Biden, it just doesn't
add up.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's it's definitely not happening because things are going so
well for them. That's correction. We agree on that. Let's
do Dean in Florida. Dean's got he's got a suggestion
here for the debates.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What's up, Dean.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
So here's my idea, guys.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
I say each president ficks his own moderator, one each
like Tucker her callers, Techer Carlson would be a great
for Trump, and then whoever Biden wants, they both get
answered the same question from each moderator to answer it.
They press on back and forth, back and forth, like
a duel, and then at the no teleprompters, no earbuds,
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no holds barred, you get two hours.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
I don't I don't dislike that idea. It's kind of
like a second in a duel. You get to pick
your guy who's going to be there to help you
in the duel. I don't think they would go for
it because I think the Biden team would say, oh
my goodness, who's Trump going to pick? And I think
probably Biden would pick who would be picked Rachel Maddow.
Rachel Maddow Tucker potentially would be I think really great
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riveting television. I also think you get honest answers that
would eliminate this is my argument on Fox News should
pick someone, in MSNBCC should pick one, and they should
only ask the opposing party. In theory, I think that
would at least address the moderation and try to balance
it out to give us a fairer content.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The other way you could do this would be to
really make it very fair but very sterile. And the
way to do that would be a moderator who uh,
they're they're going to propose, They're going to let them
know what the topics, maybe even the questions are openly,
let them know what they are in advance, and then
really just allow dueling monologues where you have sixty seconds
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and the other person's mic is cut and then you
have sixty seconds. I mean, you know, you could construct
something that would be truly equal time and that would
be truly unslanted by the moderators, But I don't think
it would be good TV. And that's the other challenge
of this. As long as there's an interest in making
it good TV for ratings purposes, because there's millions of
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dollars of revenue attached to this, you know, and also
the branding for the network. I mean having your host. Look,
I'll say it right now. If they offered to have
Clay and I do the moderation, we would do it
because it's obviously great branding for your show or your
your platform, whatever it is to do it. As long
as that's the case, the incentives are not to have
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it be truly fair. The incentives are to have it
be the best TV you can create. One more idea here,
as we go to break a mote with piranhas in it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm just kidding. I love that.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I think Trump should demand drug testing. I don't even
know what the drug testing could reveal. I'm not I mean,
I don't think Trump or Biden are doing coke or
you know, like using hard drugs.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Joe Biden's taking steroids. Take a little trend on the side.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's got some got some tea, some Exhaustina's testosterone he's taken.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I'm just saying I would love to see the drug
test results. I think it would be funny for it
for Trump to say it, like, just come out and
say they're shooting Biden up with something horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know what they're putting in. Is there want?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I feel like I'm pretty pretty well versed from just
I find pharmacology. Is that the right thing to be
pretty fascinating area of I actually have a couple of
books at holding and I'm reading now on the discovery
of new drugs and things. Is there something you can
give an old person to make them sharp for a while,
like if you fill them with Riddlin or something?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I think?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do we have any anyone out there who has a
psych who's a psychiatrist or as an MD who could
speak to this, because everyone who says there's shooting Biden
up with stuff, I'm like, where was that stuff when
I was taking final exams?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, it's a great question, and uh, well everybody's on
adderall now?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Is the answer to you? I mean like, it's just
like a lot of caffeine. Really, I mean, I don't
think if you have dementia that's not It might help
you focus and be alert, but you know, if you're
if you have dementia, adderall is not gonna I don't
think that's gonna save you, is it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't know, No, I don't. This is a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
If you're a doctor out there and you were given
the opportunity to prescribe something to someone in advance of
a debate that you think would help their performance, is
there a drug that you could take short?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'm not talking about something you pained for years.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Really, we want to know what drug is doctor Jill
Biden prescribing from him out of her extensive MD knowledge.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We're gonna get angry emails about this.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
We know she's not a real indeed, we know, but
I would love to hear from doctors out there. What
could you do to make some you know, like they
do beta blockers for golfers, it's a big deal because
it lowers your stress, makes you a better putter. Obviously,
steroids are out there and make people stronger and better athletes.
What could you take for something for a debate to
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Speaker 7 (29:02):
Slat Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are both super excited
to welcome in right now with US Arizona Senate candidate
Carrie Lake. Carrie, we got a lot to hit run
through with you, but let's start here. I know that
it is a national presidential election that's underway, but when
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you hear Biden want to debate on June twenty seventh
and on September tenth. What do you think that debate
will be like for Trump and Biden? And what does
it tell you that Biden wants debates so soon? Your state,
Arizona is a battleground state. How is the national election
playing and how do you think all that will implicate
(29:49):
your race?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Oh, I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean,
it's gonna be musty TV. It's interesting. You know, he
acted like mister tough guy in this video, but when
you reach this small print, he's got a lot of
requirements for that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he
knows he's been boot off the stage by just everyday
average Americans, you know, even Democrats. I'm out in the field,
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I'm out campaigning right now, and I'm going to town,
and the crowds are increasingly growing with Democrats who are
attending to hear what I have to say about turning
Arizona around and helping our country. They are set up
the sky high Inflation's affecting them just as it's affecting Republicans.
So I think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at
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this point. But it's going to be great. President Trump,
no matter what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will
win this debate. I'm putting all my money on President Trump,
and I think the rest of this country is as well.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Hey, Kerry, thanks, thanks for being here with us. The
way they're structuring this, let's assume that Trump more or
less agrees to the laundry list of things that Biden wants.
You were as certainly people in Area Zona now I
think a lot of other folks now have come to
know this as well. About you a TV news anchor
(31:05):
for decades, right, so you've you've been in the media
game for a long time before you were running for
politics on political office. What do you think the best
way is that this should be structured. Is there even
a moderator that you think would be acceptable to both
sides that would work in this case? How do you
break that down?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
It's gonna be tough because you know, so many people
are if you say one nice thing about President Trump,
they say, oh, you're maga and you're not fair anymore.
But I think there are moderators who could. I've done debates,
I've moderated debates and forums before, and you know, you
have to check your beliefs and your views to the
side and just be fair. And I think there's a
lot of people right now who could do that. You know,
(31:48):
Joe Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan
is a Republican or a Democrat. I think he's truly independent.
Scott Adams. I can think John Solomon is a true
journalist out there. Maria Bartiro, she would be great because
she understands the economy, you know, and all of the
questions that are going to be based on the economy.
You need to have someone who truly understands what they're
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talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
By by the way, breaking news.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I think we should have a live audience, absolutely, and
maybe even take some questions from the audience.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,
this just came from Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
He says he wants Biden to debate him on Fox
News Wednesday, October two, twenty twenty four. Host would be
Brett Behar and Martha McCollum. That's interesting, So that literally
just came down from Trump. All right, let's go to Arizona,
New York Times. Ciena Polling, I'm sure you get all
sorts of polls that are currently underway in Arizona showed
(32:47):
Trump opening up a substantial.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Lead in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
You are in a super tight race with Ruben Diego,
your opponent out there. Do you think Trump is winning
Arizona right now? First part of this question, like the
New York Times Siena poll showed, and what makes you
think that you can catch Ruben to the extent you're
behind or do you think you're up right now based
on what you see polling data wise?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Well, I saw that poll and I had a meeting
yesterday with my polster, and we're really happy with that poll.
First of all, when you look at the fine print
in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though Republicans have
a large edge over Democrats. So when you rewait that
poll with what the actual voters are and what they
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the turnout will be here in Arizona, we're actually up
or tied. But regardless of how you look at it,
we're right there in the margin of era. It's going
to be close. President Trump, I believe is up bigger
than what the New York Times poll says. He's up.
I'm on the streets of Arizona every day, and you've
got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far
(33:53):
left Chicago Democrat frankly marks this opponent. He just spent
seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a
bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a
moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever
run in the state of Arizona and possibly in the country.
He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC, look almost moderate.
(34:14):
He just spent seven million dollars and did not see
a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.
They just announced they're going to put twenty million more
in ads. Listen if they want to flush money down
the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are
awake to who Reuben Diego is. He's voted for the
open border policies. He's pro sanctuary city. He marched and
defund the police rallies. He has voted in one hundred
(34:37):
percent in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason we're
seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're seeing
crisis that we can't even afford. It's because he has
pushed these disastrous, dead end policies that Joe Biden is pushing.
The scary thing is he's a Biden mini me when
it comes to policy, but he's forty years younger. So
if we don't stop him right now, we're going to
(34:59):
have a guy who, for forty years can bring a
reign of terror on this country if he is elected
into the US Senate. And that's why we all have
to get out, get registered to vote, start talking to
our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody can
afford to sit home this next election. I feel confident
that President Trump will win and sweep Arizona, and I
(35:20):
feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me.
He wants me to help him out when I get
to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda
pushed through.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So we're talking to.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical Senate seat in
Arizona carry. I'm just wanting you mentioned some of the
big ticket items, if you will, things like the border, inflation,
the economy, those are all trending against Biden and all
the Democrats who go along with him, like Diegos, your
opponent in this race. What about the campus protests and
(35:51):
the Biden administrations knifing Israel in the back. Is that
nationally we know that has some real implications. We're seeing
it planned in Michigan. Does it have any implications as
you can see it in Arizona, whether it's the protests,
a law, or the foreign policy disasters?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh boy, hot, every I mean, it just shows he's
showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and
it's going to make things worse for us when it
comes to foreign policy. Right now, you know, Biden is
a laughing stock that nobody respects them, nobody fears him.
We used to have peace through strength, Now we have
war through weakness, and so on the foreign policy side,
(36:28):
it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm
seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.
This young group of people that are in college right
now about ready to graduate, are waking up to the
fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,
his policies are killing them. And they're waking up and
realizing that we have to get back to a strong
(36:48):
economy as they get ready to go into the workforce.
You know, the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think
it was three point four percent unemployment, but when you
look closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's
eleven point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the
things that they used to buy four or five years
ago are in some cases more than twice as much
(37:11):
money right now. So they're looking at themselves entering into
a job market that's very shaky for them, not being
able to afford the basic necessities, not being able to
afford rent, and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans.
So and plus they're watching all of that chaos on
the campus, which they're finding out is funded by a
(37:31):
bunch of people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden
and my opponent Ruben Gyego, the people funding all of
that chaos tearing their campus apart, are behind people like Biden,
Ruben Gego and other leftists who are destroying our country.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, I saw the Arizona State freck. Guys.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
I'm sure you saw that video cleaning up the mess
from the Palestinian protesters, and it went super viral and
I loved it as we saw a lot of people
on campus standing up to them.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Question for you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Abortion has been a mess all over the country, in
particular focused in Arizona eighteen sixty four law. The Arizona
Supreme Court involved the state legislature of both the House
and the Senate. I believe have addressed this. What is
going on there? How much of an issue do you believe,
not only statewide but also for the national election, given
(38:24):
how close it's going to be there is abortion going
to play? What are you hearing on the ground and
what's the situation likely to be by the time people
start headed to the polls.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue,
But the real fact of the matter is when people
can't afford groceries, when people can't afford gasoline, when they're
being evicted from their apartment because they can't afford the
rent anymore. When we're watching as twelve million people pour
across their border and drive down wages because it's cheap labor,
and we have to put the bill for putting them
(38:55):
up in housing them services, I think that it takes
a back burner. It really is on the back burner.
Were back to the law that we had for several years,
the fifteen week law. It was approved and voted in
by both Republicans and Democrats, and a Republican governor signed
it into law. That is our current law in Arizona,
(39:17):
and I believe people when they get to the polls
will decide on that. We will have the choice between
the fifteen week law and a planned parents who voter
initiative that will pretty much legalize abortion right up until birth.
So I agree with President Trump. It's going to be
up to the states. The people of Arizona will decide
which law they want, and I'm running for US Senate,
so this is now in the hands of the state.
(39:38):
But I will tell you this as a US Senator,
I will never vote to approve federal funding to support abortion.
I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.
I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left
up to the states. But what I do want to
see guys, is that we work with pro family legislation
(39:58):
to encourage families. Watch our population growth. It's going way down.
We're actually going to be at a critical point if
we don't start growing families and having babies in this country,
and so I want to push good pro family laws.
In Hungary, I had a chance to visit with Victor
Orbon about a year ago, and I noticed that they
(40:18):
had cut their abortion rate in half, nearly in half,
and they never changed a single law. They did it
through pro family legislation to encourage people to start a
family and grow their family. And you know this, just
as I do, that the country is only as strong
as our most important institution, and that institution is the family.
(40:40):
And right now the foundation of our families is pretty shaky,
and we need to do something to change that. And
I'll be the most pro family senator in the US.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Senate Kerry Lake running for Senate Carrie. We're going to
keep talking to you. Is this guy's closer and this
audience is going to help out. So thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Thank you visit Terrylake dot com and support our campaign.
We're going to bring about some good American first policies
to turn this Biden nightmare around.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
You know, Carrie was just talking to us about the
family and expanding the American family by having more and
more children, and how in other places even they figured
out ways to save many lives. She talked about a
voluntary drop in the number of abortions in Hungary, about
fifty percent. This is the battle that we're in here
(41:26):
in this country right now as well. Abortion is not
illegal in a majority of states, nowhere near it. In fact,
a lot of states have had an increase in abortions
post Row v.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Wade's end.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So there's something that can be done about it to
save lives. Right now. We can continue to have this
national conversation, continue to push for legislation at the state level,
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Speaker 5 (43:50):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, finishing up
the Wednesday edition of the program. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We have He's got a clip
that I want to play for Buck. This is Harrison Butker,
who is the Kansas City chiefs Kicker. He was speaking
(44:11):
at a recent event, a Catholic graduation for a college
and he talked about women and the idea of being
homemakers based on his own success in life. It has
blown up into a major controversy. Buck has not heard it.
Let's play cut twenty nine.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
I want to speak directly to you briefly because I
think it is you, the women who have had the
most diabolical lives told to you. How many of you
are sitting here now about to cross this stage and
are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are
going to get in your career. Some of you may
go on to lead successful careers in the world, but
I would venture to guess that the majority of you
are most excited about your marriage and the children you
(44:52):
will bring into this world. I can tell you that
my beautiful wife. Isabelle would be the first to say
that her life truly started when she began living her
voca as a wife and as a mother. I'm on
this stage today and able to be the man I
am because I have a wife who leans into her location.
I beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me.
But it cannot be overstated that all of my success
(45:14):
is made possible because a girl I met in being
class back in middle school would convert to the faith,
become my wife, and embrace one of the most important
titles of all homemaker.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Sounds great contract. I love it, ten out of ten,
ten out of.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Ten to you.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
He was speaking at the Benedictine College at Atchinson, Kansas.
If I messed any of that up, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I'll say, first of all, I mean, this is so
important and there need to be far more people that
are talking about this. I career switched out of the
CIA into media, and I did so now in retrospect,
at the expense of starting a family earlier. And that's
a tough call, and I would not recommend it for
most people. I would recommend people getting married younger and
starting their families younger, I would not do what's very
(46:01):
normal here in New York City, which is push as
hard as you can until forty and then turn around
and build your life as you want it then, because honestly,
whether you make VP at Goldman or you make partner
at the law firm or whatever, it's just not going
to matter in the end. Your kids, your family, your
loved ones, your wife, your husband, That's what's going to
matter in the end.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And I already know that that's well said by you.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I give credit to Harrison Vucker here because I know
so many of you out there are raising families. I
became a dad at twenty eight. To your point, Buck,
I was relatively young.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Which is like in New York City terms, might as
well be high school age, Like that's really young.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah, I was super young to become a dad, relatively speaking,
especially for somebody who stayed in school till twenty five
to become a lawyer. It's the right decision. I'm so
glad that I did it, but it had a lot
of struggles. We didn't have a lot of money. My
wife and I early in our life, we were spending
more money on childcare than we would have had to
pay for tuition and life got a lot better when
(47:01):
we had the ability to have one parent stay at home.
It can be the dad or the mom, but that
is ideal and I think that's really what Harrison Bucker's
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Why are they mad at it? That's a question. Crazy
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