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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in. Appreciate all of you. Hang it out with all.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Of us as the chaos continues. Tuesday edition, Clay Travis
buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you that are spending
time with us. We got breaking news, as it feels
like we have every day for a very long series
of days. The failed Secret Service Director Kim Cheadle, who
was ridiculed on a bipartisan basis for her failure surrounding
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the Butler Pennsylvania shooting that occurred. What feels like what
ten days ago now, I mean, it's hard to even
kind of put it all into context. How quickly all
of this has happened. She has now resigned. She is
out of a job. It took her far too long
to resign. The Biden administration has put out a statement
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thanking her for her incredible work and for her willingness
to resign. But we didn't talk a ton about the
hearing yesterday because.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It was going on while we were live on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But it basically became untenable, and to the credit of
Democrats and Republicans, everyone lined up and just said this
is absolutely unacceptable, what is going on and teed off
against it. Continuing, Here is Speaker Mike Johnson, who came
(01:28):
on with us Thursday and demanded that Cheetle resign. Reacting
to that resignation that now has happened, here is cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that
it is overdue. She should have done this at least
a week ago. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy
to see that she is heed at the call of
both Republicans and Democrats. Now we have to pick up
the pieces. We have to rebuild the American people's faith
and trust in the Secret Service as an agency. It
has an incredibly important responsibility and protecting presidents, former presidents
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and other officials in the executive branch. And we've got
a lot of work to do. The task force that
we've been putting together is going to be very important.
As I said, they have three responsibilities. To investigate what happened,
the debacle that happened two saturdays ago, to hold those accountable.
It certainly was the director Cheetle, but there may be
others in the line of authority who are also culpable
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and what happened and the errors of mistakes there. And
finally to ensure that those mistakes do not happen again.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so this was inevitable that this fire. It should
have been firing, right. We don't know where Biden is
for six days. He's vanished. I hope we'll bring back
the actual meritocracy when it comes to protecting our president,
whether it's a Democrat, Republican, independent, whomever it might be,
in the years ahead. This was the biggest failure since
eighty one. The fact that it took this along was indefensible,
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but this was the right result at least. It seems,
though still that the only person Joe Biden can fire
is himself. But your reaction to the Secret Service director
finally being done with this job book, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The obvious outcome, meaning it's obviously what should have happened,
and so that's a good thing. I think it was
also inevitable. I think as much as she was getting
beaten up on a bit, deservedly so, but beaten up
on a bit yesterday, I think when it became clear
that the head of the Secret Service, you know in
the line. I don't know if we have it for today,
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but you know, well what happened to the Secret Service
after Reagan got shot. They're like, oh, he stayed. No,
actually he got fired, asked to resign and fired. When
we're in government, I think you can use these pretty interchangeably. Really,
no one gets fired anymore, I think unless you're going
to be criminally prosecuted. And even then, look at it.
Do we have an update on Mendez? By the way,
we should dive into that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
He still technically is a senator. I don't think they
forced him out at all, even though he's convicted. I mean,
there was a demand that he resigned, But unlike Santos,
who immediately gets kicked out on the House side, Democrats
keep their felons because has Santos even been convicted yet?
Has Santos even been convicted yet? No, that case hasn't
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even gone to trial, right, has it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
No, Santos was convicted of like lying about being on
the men's volleyball team and having Jewish ancestry or something. Look,
it's not stuff that you should be lying about. I'm
not saying it's not weird. But you know, he's not
selling out his car, he's.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Not a convicted felon. He didn't have gold bars from
foreign interest inside of his home.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Based on the work that he had done for them.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So here's what I see on the on the secret
Service side of the oks. I've been thinking a lot
about it. I think I think everyone has been thinking
a lot about it. And it really is as though
if the country were a person with you know, their
their air pods in and walking down the street with
some music playing in your ears, and we walked right
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up to the curb and just stopped for a second
to look, and a you know, a dump truck going
eighty miles an hour just shave the end of our nose.
I mean, that is how close we came as a
country to political cataclysm. And I think that that really
stays with you. I mean there's the relief and the
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sense of God's grace that Trump is okay, but we
can't forget. I mean, it was a literal inch from
being anything but okay. So I think the country is
still processing that as we're also processing the fact that
it's really a new election now, Clay, I mean, we
have to think of it in that context. A vice
president ascending to the top of the ticket changes all
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the So by the way, we could go back and
talk about some of these dynamics and how this affected
the Jewish vote and all these things because because in
my mind, well now with Kamala, you know, it deserves
a reassessment, right, I mean you have to look at
how they're going to position this new candidate. But just
on the Secret Service aspect of this, I don't know
how much reform you're really going to get out of this,
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because there's a let here's what I mean, nine to
eleven happened. And with nine to eleven, yes, there was
failures of intelligence sharing. They called it stove piping where
and they still do this all the time, just you know,
I mean, or at least they were doing what I
was in not going to tell this agency this is
our equities, they would say, in our area of control.
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We're not going to share this information. It's too sensitive
to give it to you know, DA, or too sensitive
to give it to FBI or whatever, right, nsay, you
name it. But what they did was what those terrorists
did on that day was devious, but showed a lot
and showed a lot of ingenuity and showed a real
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understanding of how to get around are admittedly weak security procedures.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But it was something new. The Secret service.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, they caught us napping, but they did have
to get creative, like the evildoers had to get creative
on nine to eleven. This secret service, Clay failed in
the most blatant, obvious, straightforward way imaginable.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I have to wonder.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'm sure you'll come back and say, we need better,
We need better communication with local law enforcement. That's going
to be now. You know, local law enforcement has said
that they weren't They were basically just checking in cars,
which I just note that is what local law enforcement should.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Bet to what they should be doing. In a bit
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You don't want the random local police department in charge
of setting up the safety of the president of.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The United States. I understand.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
You know there are former badass Marines who then go
into law enforcement, and maybe they'll go to a small town.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I understand that's real. So you have to call in
and yell at me and be like I could shoot
you know, the wings off a fly at one hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Most small town departments have very limited training budgets. When
I mean limited training budgets, they don't pay for AMMO
for their cops to go shoot more than you know,
once or twice a year. Okay, they're not meant to
take on a threat at one hundred yards, five hundred
yards anything like that. Okay, So with that in mind,
all my point play about the Secret Service failure here
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is some twenty year old got up on the roof
in the most obvious place possible and was able to
set up with a range finder and take a shot
and put a shot on target and hit the president
in the head, basically in the ear.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean, what are they gonna say for the future.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Don't let the assassin just walk up on the nearest building,
set up like he's got plenty of time, and take
multiple aim shots at an undefended president. I mean, it's
so obvious and so horrific the failure that I don't
know other than like, we're not gonna be so dumb
in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Do you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's not there's not like a change in procedure that
needs to happen other than don't suck at your job.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, if you and I had been there doing a
site visit, we would have been like, okay, let's get
snipers on top of these one hundred proofs everywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That would have been like the first thing we would
think to do.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's why I said, this to me, is a bigger
failure than what happened in nineteen eighty one when Reagan
got shot. Because you're in a sidewalk, a guy's got
a handgun. That is more of a scramble, difficult to
stop situation. And I think it's more of a failure
than what happened to JFK.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
People say, what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
JFK was shot, but nobody was pointing up at Lee,
Harvey Oswald or whomever.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
If there were multiple shooters.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Saying, hey, that guy has a gun, we should do
something about him. For ten minutes before JFK came through
in Dealey Plaza, they knew this guy had a gun.
They knew there was danger. I mean the time, the
timeframe that we had. I flagged this and I mentioned
it to Don Junior last week Buck when we had
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him on. But I do think that in many ways,
because Trump avoided assassination, a lot of people just stopped
looking at all of the details that surround us. Listen
to this time Listen to this timeframe. At five ten pm,
Crooks was identified as a person of interest. You know
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this Buck, most of you out there know this too.
It's hard to get noticed as a suspicious guy in
a crowd of tens of thousands of people, right, Like,
that's relatively hard for you to be isolated at People say, hey,
there's something wrong with this guy. At five point thirty,
he had a rangefinder. I'm sorry, why are we allowing
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people with rangefinders into events like this? I mean, it's
not a golf course, you know, You're not like, you know, binoculars.
Maybe rangefinder, that's very different. At five point fifty two,
he was on the roof, spotted by the Secret Service.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Ten minutes later Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Took the stage. So they saw this guy on the
roof for ten minutes before Trump took the stage. He
didn't fire his first shot until six twelve, twenty minutes
after they noticed him for the first time on the
on the roof. I mean, this is like incompetence on
a level that I don't think just Kim Cheatle getting
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fired is enough. And by the way, in her testimony, Buck,
she didn't say, hey, there was only one shooter. I
understand that this shooter is, you know, twenty years old
then clearly probably had mental issues. But the fact that
they have been unable to figure out how and why
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he was able to do this is not helping at all.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The consterio theories what happened with what with her whole approach.
The approach here was what I've always called the bureaucratic
slow roll. She was saying yesterday, I think even AOC,
that's how bad the security failure is. Even AOC is like, yeah,
you should have done better. I mean it's pretty outrageous. Right,
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sixty days they needed for the investigation to be complete
about what happened. Now you can say the investigation is
going to be completed in sixty days. You have to
have all necessary pertinent information ready for this hearing ready,
you know, good to go. You can't say I don't know,
we'll know in sixty days, all right, we got to
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pay vigration underway.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Even AOC went off on that and said, sixty days
is unacceptable. Right, when AOC is making sense, you have
to acknowledge how much of a failure it is.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, just because AOC says it doesn't make it wrong.
I will admit this. She was totally right, sixty days
is insane. So I think that it's Look, I feel
badly for the people in the secret serve. This is
always what happens, right, You feel badly for the guys
and gals who you know, rank and file are showing
up to do the job every day. I mean I
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even still get Clay, I mean I get people will
give me a hard time of being in the CIA,
and I'm like, I showed up every day. And our
job was basically try to help find and kill all
Kaida members.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That was the job.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Pretty important job after nine to eleven, Like we we
actually didn't have a lot of politics in the office
and CTC was let's find terrorists before they can strap
you know, bombs with ball bearings to themselves and kill
as many women and children as possible.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like it was a strange, but you.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Know, because of what what you know, James Comy did,
and then what the CIA director did, and what the
you know and d and I Clapper, all these guys
Brennan at the CIA. People think that that then means
everybody who works at these places is somehow part of
like the deep state conspiration. It's not, that's not true.
The entity the organization can be rotten, but that doesn't
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mean that everybody doesn't mean that they're not affected by it,
but they're not rotten as well. I mean, I thought
it was very given that it's his father we're talking
about here that was in the crosshairs, the the actual crossairs,
you know. Eric Trump even said that the female Secret
Service agent who was just being I mean, she spent
forty eight hours mocked more than almost anybody I've seen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All a year.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know, I mean really being mocked, like he said.
He said that she's a great person and a great shot,
and that that was unfair, you know what I mean.
So I feel badly for the Secret Service agents. But
the Secret Service as an entity has to have in
a spree decorps has to have an accountability that this
can you know, the mission has to be never again,
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something like this the way never again was the mission
for the CIA and FBI after nine to eleven, You
know what I mean. There has to be a mindset
shift where there's a redoubled effort. And I think under
a swamp drained Trump administration, you.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Might get that might want to check the transcripts Flagg
this one. I believe this might be the first time
that AOC has been praised for being right on an issue.
Maybe in the history of the show, historic moment here
of it. I wouldn't doubt it. You know, we're very
generous here on the show. We tell the truth, even
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when it benefits the communists.
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Speaker 4 (16:04):
Let's take a look at this new presidential election that
we are faced with. Here, you could say, Clay, that
we should take a look at what can be unburdened
by what has been. I guess the burden was Joe
Biden and the campaign is no longer burdened with Biden.
That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know.
(16:24):
I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of
her saying that all the time, a phrase that she
uses constantly that I had.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Never heard before ever.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Actually I've never heard someone talking about what can be
unburdened by what has been, but Kama loves it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So we will get into.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Some of that also, how to handle from the Republican
side of things from the Trump side of things, how
to handle her past, and all the rest of it.
She is making her first public appearances. Let's get to
cut eight here. Team here. She is the VP saying
it's a rollercoast, mixed emotions, but we love Joe Biden,
play it, and I.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Know it's been a rollercoaster, and we're all filled with
so many mixed emotions about this.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
I just have to say, I love Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I love Joe Biden, and I know we all do,
and we have so many darn good reasons for loving
Joe Biden, and I have full faith that this team
is the team will be the reason we win in November.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
She is cringe inducing, even when she's saying things that
should be very straightforward. Clay, I think that the same
Democrat capacity to fool themselves into the belief that Joe
Biden does not have sinility. I think that same capacity
for delusion is what is present when they're making it
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sound like they believe Kamala Harris and we'll play some
of those clubs later is a great politician. No one
really could possibly think.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That it is so weird in the political sphere to
have this happen. She traveled to Wilmington, Delaware, a state
probably that she spent almost no time in prior to
becoming vice president. Because Joe Biden's from Delaware, she is
now stepping in. They have completely swept out all mention
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of Biden. She is keeping the same campaign team, same
campaign headquarters, everything except now she is the head of
the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb, doesn't
basically exist as a part of this ticket anymore. And
we have to figure out who she's going to pick
as vice president. This happens all the time in sports.
That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't
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happen very often in politics, where the head coach gets
fired and immediately the new head coach steps in, oftentimes
on his staff with everybody else the same players, management structure,
and suddenly says, hey, I'm the new guy, and everybody
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just starts clapping for that person instead. I mean, this
is range. Now she's got to pick who her VP
is going to be. Two favorites right now, according to reporting,
appear to be Mark Kelly, the astronaut senator from Arizona,
and who I believe beat Blake Masters by two or
three points? Am I correcting that in twenty twenty two
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to win re election? And the who I think she's
gonna pick the Governor of Pennsylvania, Jos Shapiro. So she's
gonna pick it appears one of those two are favored.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think you're leaving out your buddy. I think getting
uh Basher. I think Basher is because here's how, here's how.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Let's let's do this.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Now, shall we break down the VP stakes once again?
The viepstakes? We got at least we know that Jade
Vince is the Republican vice presidential nominee. Here's what I see, Clay,
if you have a future as a Democrat running for
the top job, you do not want to be in
the number two slot on this Kamala ticket right now,
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because you're just going down.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
With a big l.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
You're taking the loss here. Not a good move. So
that's why Gretchen Whittmer has already made it clear she's like,
I endorse Kamla. I'm not gonna take the VP job
full stop. That's the smart move. By the way, I
think that Whitmer pains me to say this. I think
she could be formidable member we're not getting Trump again, everybody,
this is our last well I mean, assuming he wins
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he doesn't run again, but or you know, if he
didn't win and he ran again. But this is our
last shot of Trump. Let's say we get Trump in,
we got to come up with somebody else. I think
jad Vance, you know, is top of the list right now,
but there'll be others. I think Gretchen Whitmer will be
formidable on her own in twenty twenty eight in that
election cycle which starts in twenty twenty six. Same thing
applies for Gavin Newsom, at least in his own mind.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Clay.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I think he believes he's formidable for the top job
and wants to run. And there are a whole bunch
of other names. I won't go through all of them,
but you're not hearing about them as Kamala VP slot.
Why because the people that are gonna take the Kamala
v pea slot for them, it's a shot at being
a VP. They're never going to be president and they
probably would never be a VP on another Democrat ticket.
So this is the best they could ever really realistically
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hope for. And that's where I think you get Asher
in Kentucky because they're balancing out Kama's a far left
wing candidate everybody. She's a progressive from California except on
one issue, and we should talk about that. On the
criminal justice thing, we should get to that.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I see.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think Gretchen Whitmer knows she's not going to be
picked because they're not going to go with an all
female ticket. So I think she's pulling herself out of
the running in advance because I don't think a female
I've never like, why not an all female ticket just
based on their gender?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't. I don't see that as.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think that they have decided that Kamala Harris needs
to have I'm just telling you, I think they've decided
she needs to have a guy, and I think they
want like the blandest, whitest guy possible to try to
make that ticket more or palatable for these Midwestern voters. Now,
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I think Josh Shapiro, who is Jewish, this is Jewish
is a problem for Kamala on the left side in
Michigan and offer all the reasons.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That you find.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I am fascinated by that. CNN came on and said
that she would be in trouble potentially in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
If she picked a Jewish running mate, she.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Might be seeding Michigan to try to win Pennsylvania. That
may be the count And that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is, by the way, a sign of how anti semitic
some of the base of the Democrat Party is, because
you wouldn't say, if Josh Shapiro was a Republican, I
would have been beating the table Trump should pick him
as the VP. If you had a popular Republican governor
in Pennsylvania, Jewish, whatever he is, it would have been
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a no brainer for Trump to pick him because that
would make it more likely that Trump would win Pennsylvania.
And if Trump wins Pennsylvania, there is no pathway for
Democrats to win this election.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So the fact that they said.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
This on cn N, they pointed out, hey, a Jewish
running mate could be an issue. There are already people
saying Kamala's Jewish husband could potentially be an issue for her.
That's how anti semitic the left is. If that's true, Buck,
then I think Mark Kelly would be the pick. The
question is is he strong enough in Arizona to flip
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that state back from right now Trump being in the
lead to maintain it and the Democrat camp.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
So my sense is that I think the likeliest pick
is Mark Kelly, but I think that Bashir is right
behind him because he does that whole russ Belt appeal
to the middle of America thing that Kamala is going
to need to be competitive in any even vaguely competitive
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in any of those key swing states throughout the Midwest.
So I think those are those are the likely options
you have. I also think that once again, the VP
tends to be an exaggerated part of a of a ticket.
In terms of the election, I think that this is
going to be a Kamala Trump election or Trump Kamala election,
and that's the likeliest way that this You know that
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that's the only way that this thing is going to
be determined.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I thought this was interesting too, though, because.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I disagree and I'm hearing that the GOP is going
to is going to attack her on this and I
disagree with it. Here's Kamala Harris talking about when she
was a prosecutor in San Francisco. This has cut nine
play it.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
You know, as many of you know, before I was
elected as Vice president, before I was elected as United
States Senator, I was the elected attorney general that mentioned
a California and before that that was a courtroom prosecutor.
In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Kinds, creditors who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers,
cheeters who broke the rules for their own game. So
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hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Type all right now, put aside the like that thing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think it is a.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Mistake if the GOP starts going after Kamala for being
tough on crime, put aside the Trump component of this.
And they did this a little bit during the primary
in twenty twenty. There was that people say they call
her cop Kamala because she was, like, you know, a
cop going around arresting everybody for for weed and things
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like that. That is a mistake. She is a far
leftist progressive from California. She raised money for BLM rioters
in her own name. Do not GOP staffers, Capitol Hill
list to me. RNC people listen to me. Do not
make Kamala seem like she used to be a badass
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on crime. Very very dumb point out that she is
a progressive leftist who is fine with Soros, Das all
over the country and was all about rioting during BLM.
Do you see what I mean? I think this is
because they've done that. They've gone the wrong direction in
this in the past against Kamala. It also forces you
to be hitting her on two different sides. The way
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to attack her, I agree with you, is to say
she moved from a prosecutor who believed criminals should be
put in prison to someone who believes there should be
no consequences for committing crimes. She is too soft on crime.
She used to be right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, the way I would address it buck is
the same way Joe Biden was right in nineteen ninety
four on the crime bill he was He was one
hundred percent right. It might be the only thing he
got right in his entire political career. He turned his
back on the tough on crime bills in order to
be elected in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Kamala is actually far worse than Biden.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Because Biden was an adroit enough politician, never too specifically
called to defund the police. Kamala is on tape saying
we need to defund the police. The way to attack
her is there. Biden was actually a better candidate. I
think on this issue because he was never crazy enough
to give all of his support to the far left
(27:25):
wing idea of defunding the police. Kamala was She's not
as skilled a politician as Joe Biden, and actually is
one of the reasons that Joe Biden became the nominee
and then the president in twenty twenty is that he
did not totally go off the cliff with the BLM.
You rioting, defund the police, abolish prisons, Democrat lunacy of
(27:48):
that year. He let the shock troops. He's not opposed
to it, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
He let the shock troops of the Democrat Party do
what they do and mobilize and terrorize, but he knew
for his own purposes, don't go along with that. Let
Antifa be Antifa, but I pretend to be lunch pale
Joe who rides the chow chow with the union members
and everything else. Right, I mean, that's that was the
whole game. Kamala went along with it because Kamala has
(28:16):
to play the race politics angle for her own reasons.
So Kamala was all BLM, and Kamala was supporting the
rioters and saying you get them money to get them
out of jail at all this stuff. Hate her on
that because I have already seen early indications they're gonna say, oh, well,
Kamala used to lock people up for weed. Kamala locking
people up is a good thing. Okay, Yeah, we want
(28:37):
more of the locking people up for breaking the law.
I mean, not obviously for just having some weed, but
that's not what really was going on.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
We come back, I'll answer your question about how aggressive
Trump should be on going after Kamala for this sixty
year old married man relationship, because I think I've got
the answer.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'll tell we're gonna. We're gonna.
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Speaker 4 (30:27):
We mentioned Kamala Harris's favorite praise before. He might be
wondering he's been unfair to just point this out. Is
she really using it that much? Or we exaggerating?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You tell me how many times have you heard that phrase?
And then how many times will we hear it right now?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
In public pronouncements from Kamala Harris? Play it what can be?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
What should be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
What can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
What can be unburdened by what has been? See what
can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
What can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
What can be unburdened by what has been? Unburdened by
what has been? And knowing what can be, have a
sense of vision about what can be unburdened by what
has been. There are those who are unable to see
what can be, but there are many more who are
able to see what can be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't
determine the future. I mean, there's a lot of ways
that if she felt like, but that is clearly her favorite,
her favorite phrase.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That is there her marquee phrase that everyone, it's not
even a good phrase.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's not hard to even understand it, right, like we're
not Yeah, your point, the past doesn't dictate the future
is something that everybody understands, like this is just a
gobbling goook phrase that actually is hard to even work through.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind
of phrase that a person who has been padded on
the back and told oh, you're so smart and great
well everyone you know, her whole professional life while everyone
was like what the heck was that? It's kind of
phrase somebody like that would keep using because no one
will tell me, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
What is that even?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
And I think that that speaks very much to the
reality of Kamala Harris. So this is Look, I'm sure
you saw David Sacks who was on with us during
the RNC. He's a one of the you know, big
big dogs out of Silicon Valley, one of the big
boys out of Silicon Valley. They do with their own
podcast over there all in he said that he tweeted
(32:49):
this out. According to Axios, Biden didn't want to drop out,
in part because Harris wasn't up the taking on Trump.
Democrats ignored this concern because they were so eager to
dump by. But I suspect Biden will be proven correct
in the weeks ahead and Democrats will have buyers or
more so, he said that that was just a few
hours after our show yesterday, And remember what I said
on the show yesterday. They will rue the day. I
(33:11):
think Democrats have made a huge mistake, and I don't
think that anyone would accuse me of being mister optimism
and politics usually about you know what our sides. I
think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go
down as one of the one of the additional self
inflicted wounds of the Democrat Party in this election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement
campaign in twenty twenty and it worked. They only have
to hide Kamala from herself for like the next twelve weeks.
So I don't know how active she's gonna be on
(33:51):
the campaign trail, and I don't know to what extent
anybody's gonna hold her accountable. Remember it's crazy buck in
six weeks people start voting. Four of those days are
the DNC. They're going to write her a probably decent
speech that she's going to deliver well off of the teleprompter,
and then we'll be right there boom, people will start voting.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I see what you're saying, but I would put this
into the mix as well. They were able to run
Biden in twenty twenty based on the perception that people
had of Biden from twenty ten or maybe even the
year two thousand, Right, Biden's this old white guy's been
around forever. Everybody kind of knows him, who follows politics
(34:36):
at all, you know, he's sort of aware of him.
And by putting him in the basement, they were able
to hide his primary weakness, which was the obvious physical
and mental frailty that time had done to him, basically,
I mean the realities of it. Right. Hiding Kamala I
don't think has the same benefits at all, because Kamala
(34:59):
is they've been hiding kam Laclay as the VP. Really
for the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again
and again to make her the heir apparent, to make
her the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it
has been She's a clay, she's a laughline. She's been
a point of mockery for the Biden team for years now.
(35:22):
You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I
don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't
have any laurels.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they
wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll
out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what
a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're
going to have at least one debate, and she's not
going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did.
(35:50):
And they're all going to line up on MSNBC and
CNN and they're going to talk about what an incredible
intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was no comparison
at all against Trump. And they are going to hammer
home any criticism of her as sexist and racist, which
is what every DEI hire does, and she is the
(36:13):
ultimate DEI higher. They are going to simultaneously convince all
of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are young women,
that Trump is going to knock on their door and
drag them out by their hair if they get accidentally pregnant,
(36:35):
and the handmade's tail is going to become the real
life I'm just telling you what they're gonna run. Oh
and they're cocky because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe Biden
was a joke. But they picked him and they ran
that campaign, and they dragged Joe Biden across that line,
as you've pointed out to me, So they did have
(36:57):
cover valid Can I just say, Clay, you're talking about
the message, and you're and you're right.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint
Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's
right about how they're going to position Kamala, and you're
also I agree. I think this is obvious that they're
going to start already. They have to get the Oh
my gosh, Kama, look at the numbers. Yeah, already out
there now Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've
got to dig into it a little bit more to
(37:22):
make sure this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty
four Trump forty two in registered voters as of yesterday.
That's the first I told you this is what they're
going to find a couple of coursa the momentum has flipped.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
They're going to say, I'm.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Going to tell you right now, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it.
And now you're going to have me saying do we
trust the polls? No, when the polls have shown the
Democrat is going to get absolutely destroyed and now they
have a new candidate and they can completely shape perception
as they see fit based upon the polling that they do.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Do I try us the polls right now?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
No, I'm going to look very closely at them and
ask a lot of questions about how who they're you know,
who they're pulling, how they're doing it, what the questions are,
Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is
in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically
over right correct. So so I mean, do you think
they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump
the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
No, I don't think they're going to tell you that
Kamal has taken the lead, that this is a brilliant
strategic move that just preparing you for the next week,
and they will find a couple of polls, they'll get
a little bit of a bump, and then they'll come
back in a couple of weeks and the numbers will
come back down and they'll start to panic a little
bit more. But I'm telling you get ready for the
(38:43):
next week. Kamala has taking the lead. Oh Kamala momentum.
I can write all of the different headlines that you're
going to see at CNN and MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Just get ready. This is what they're gonna do.
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We got our friend Tammy Bruce in the mix right now.
She is a Fox News contributor, New York Times bestselling author.
Her new book, Fear Itself, just comes out this week.
It is out today, A cop today Today. I say
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So Tammy, before we're gonna get into the book in
(40:57):
a second, can I just start. I feel like the
question of the day is now that we know that
until they change, it is Kamala, right, it is Kama
the Republicans face. Are Republicans underestimating Kamala Harris in this contest?
Speaker 9 (41:10):
I will remind people of the twenty twenty two midterms.
We were very enthusiastic about that, but you know, the
Republicans do have this ability to snatch defeat out of
the jaws of victory. But what we saw from the
convention is that things have changed to some degree. Well produced,
well organized, The messaging from the Republicans is consistent, and
(41:32):
that is because I think it's fair to say that
Trump has finally coalesced everyone together. And I don't know
if they wanted us to really just love the R
and C. The convention even more when people like Liz
Cheney and Mitt Romney and others said, oh, we're not
going to go, And you notice how well everything ran,
and how it was about people together, caring about the issues,
(41:57):
wanting to make their lives better, wanting to make everybody
else's life better. The message was clear, and of course,
with an injured Trump, it was a remarkable display. So
I think that when it comes to Harris, it is,
you know, just for the Democrats, beware of what you
wish for, because you just might get it. It seems,
you know, people maybe didn't know or had forgotten about
(42:18):
how awful a candidate she was. There are stories out
there from twenty nineteen and onwards that describe the kind
of chaos that surrounded her own campaign, the stories from
twenty one when she was the vice president, and even
recently from the Telegraph, I think today or yesterday about
the nature of her inability to keep staff, because in
(42:40):
the New York Times, in their coverage old staff saying
that she and staff that had left, saying that she
was a bully, that there was like this soul destroying,
you know, horrible feeling in her office. She was never
engaged so I think she's not changed. They are put
forth the same person who got not one, not one state,
(43:04):
who did not get one vote by herself, is not
liked by the people who work with her. So I
think that this might be a hail Mary pass regarding
the down ballot races, trying to get people in who
are not even going to vote at all, trying at
least even for a few districts, maybe in Wisconsin, maybe
(43:25):
in Michigan, so that some of the House races can
be saved.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And other than that.
Speaker 9 (43:30):
I think it's clear. It's a it's a team and
a party that has been deluded for a long time
and operating exclusively on fear and envy and demonization, and
we're gonna it's that's what They're going to double down
in all of that, and we're gonna And Kamala Harris
already has by making some remarks about Trump being a predator,
(43:52):
so obviously that pledge to tone down the rhetoric. After
the assassination attempt, you know, the Kui gets shot in
the face, so let's start calling him a predator now.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Tammy, big debate on the show today and then I'll
let you get into the book, Kamala Harris began her
political career by being twenty nine years old and sleeping
with sixty year old Willie Brown, who was married the
mayor of San Francisco. Buck Is like, no, do not
touch it. Trump should stay away from it. I say
(44:22):
if Kamala and a potential debate comes after him over
Stormy Daniels, he should CounterPunch on this. Two parter here
for you is do you think that that is a
story that would impact married women in particular in terms
of what they think of Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Two?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Do you think Trump himself should go anywhere near it?
Or would you advise him to stay away from it?
It's true, it's real.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
How do you handle it?
Speaker 9 (44:49):
It is? And yet what is moving the American people
are not the personal stories, right. The demonization of Trump
did not work. It was never really about Joe AND's age.
It's about the issues that affect every morning when people
wake up. Do not know what they're going to put
in the kid's lunch box, don't know what the protein's
going to be for dinner, don't know if it's going
(45:11):
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Speaker 3 (45:14):
You know?
Speaker 9 (45:15):
Pack of eggs, Is there going to be enough gas
in the car, etc. Those are the issues that matter.
She has been have a hand in the destruction of
the ability for the American people to be able to
trust in what the next day will be. So I
would argue, and we saw this from Trump throughout the convention.
(45:36):
He's a funny guy. There are some, you know, remarks
that are personal, that are funny. Many people have been
bringing this up about her, but I can tell you
when they're looking at who can they trust, and already
there's one lie. They're trying to pitch Kamala as you know,
an end to the status quo, and they're doing that
because they know she's part of the problem. She is
(45:58):
the issue, and more so than Biden, because she has
her cognitive abilities are fine, and she's been in that
White House likely considering the leftist rush of this administration
with a big hand in what's happened. So I would
recommend you stay away from the personal and if she
(46:20):
only can do the personal. But I think that Trump's
strength despite everything they've done, the trial, him sitting in
that courtroom, Stormy Daniels on the stand, the commentary, she's
already called him a predator American. His numbers went up,
and he's just doing his job and wants to save America.
He gets shot in the face for his commitment to
(46:42):
this country, and Americans want to trust the future. And
what she did when she was twenty nine is not
really going to matter to them, but it might rile
up a certain category. But I just think you just
stick with the issues. I don't think you have to
worry about what people are going to say. Trump needs
to himself, but he needs to stick with the issues
(47:02):
because he's got one more chance. We've got maybe a
few four more years of him as president, and then
all bets are off and we've got to get this
one right.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Fear itself exposing the left's mind killing agenda. That is
Tammy's new book out today. Everyone get yourself a copy.
I've got my copy right here in my studio in Miami.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Tammy.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I'm looking forward to diving into it. I've read, you know,
the first few pages. I have a sense of where
it's going. I feel like you're gonna tell me that
when the left says that the future is basically up
in flames because of climate change for their agenda, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (47:41):
You know this is it's a first of all, we
all know COVID is the best, most immediate example of
what the establishment's capable of and what they had planned
for us. But this is a book that you know,
we've all known something's not right. We've known it for
a very long time pre COVID. It starts with, you know,
political correctness, where you have to not maybe say certain words,
(48:03):
and then we get into identity politics, where it's about
what color people are or their gender or sexual preference
or whatever that you have to think about. Suddenly we're
being divided up into you know, God help us into
balkanize little groups which you know are easier to hate on.
And then we get into the cancel culture, and you're
(48:23):
going to get fired if you don't use the right
pronouns and the world's going to end in twelve years
if you don't stop breathing and using straws. It's insane.
But there is a method to this madness. And my
message to everyone, but you know, their message is all
of you are a problem. Do nothing because you're destroying
(48:43):
the planet and humanity as we know it. Leave it
to us, your betters, and we'll take care of it
and we'll make sure that and we won't have to
hurt you or punish you if.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
You just do what we say.
Speaker 9 (48:54):
The fact is all of that fear, that chronic fear,
the mass anxiety, is our None of it is natural.
It is not organic. It's not a new normal, and
it is not inevitable. It is the kind of thing
that is so weak they can't have you notice it,
and things move so quickly.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
They just want to.
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Move you through and the thing, and they do it
because fear, which is meant to be transitory, if it's
a gift, if it's transitory, and it helps you make
decisions about what to do, chronic fear with anxiety makes
you retreat. It makes you unable to make decisions based
on the emotional basis, and so to save yourself and
(49:38):
to not be punished, you begin to obey. And it's
very similar to domestic violence. It is the same technique.
It is attacking your self esteem, telling you you're the problem,
saying that unless you do X, Y, and Z, you
will be punished, and that we have to hurt you
because we love you, and if you just do as
(49:59):
we see you will be fine. That is the same
thing and it is. It informs everything the left does
and without the individual American being trained, and it's Look,
the human mind is fragile. It's brainwashing. There's gas lighting.
We're being trained to because we don't know what the
new language rules are or what you can say without
(50:22):
being called a bigot, maybe being fired, et cetera. You
say nothing if it's too dangerous to speak. You stop
thinking about the issues themselves. The bad economy adds more fear.
You then have no money to defend yourself or to
participate in politics, no food, you don't know what the
food is going to be on the table adds to
(50:42):
the fear. The nature of yes, losing your job or
being called a name on social media, and where then
there's you know, the cancel culture, you know, build up.
All of it is meant, and Elon Musk has saved
us a little bit in that regard. But all of
that was meant, including with the censorship of our conversations
and the new words we're supposed to use, the words
(51:04):
we're not supposed to use. You know, the gays now don't.
The game mafia don't want you to use the word homosexual.
And I think that's because it's based in science, and
they don't want any implication of gender existing. And for
your audience to know I'm also I'm a gay woman,
so everybody can calm down in that regard. But this
is for me after having been on the left. We
(51:27):
can fight this and it can be defeated easily once
you see it. It's the difference of when you think
there's a lion in your room and the lights are off,
and you turn the lights on and it's really just
your main coon. Everything is fine, but you have to
have the light on. I want this book to do
that for people. It shows the history. It's an ancient technique.
(51:49):
The examples global warming, the riots of twenty twenty, Antifa,
the media is complicity in this education, the nature of Marxism,
and the fact that yes, people aren't going insane. You
can defeat it by the personal action of recognizing it.
And I have a series of packs for people to
(52:12):
make with themselves. The first one, you, guys, is not
allowing strangers to tell you who you are, to dictate
who you are. So if you've got an opinion about
that men should not be on women's sports teams, know
you're not a bigot. And you're not a sexist and
you're not a transphobe. That it treat it like if
(52:33):
somebody called you a cocker spaniel, would you immediately look
at your butt to see if there was a tail.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 9 (52:41):
And that's every accusation the left makes has to be
treated in the same way. So I've got a number
of techniques with which we can use to break the spell,
as I put it, And we're going to have to
because all of this identity politics and attacks and violence
and threats of danger, and they're doing it to their
(53:01):
own base, are going to be doubled down on through
November fifth.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Tammy Bruce, everybody. Fear Itself is the book, Tammy, sounds
like compelling stuff. Congrats, thanks you on publishing today.
Speaker 9 (53:13):
I don't have any I don't have an opinion, as
you can tell. So I'm glad, thank you, I'm grateful
you guys let me on.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Oh absolutely, and we hope that you rocket up the
bestseller chart, so we'll check in on that. We'll have
a link up to the book at clayanbuck dot com.
Fear Itself. Thanks so much, Jan, Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Of us as the chaos continues. Tuesday edition, Clay Travis
buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you that are spending
time with us. We got breaking news, as it feels
like we have every day for a very long series
of days. The failed Secret Service Director Kim Cheadle, who
was ridiculed on a bipartisan basis for her failure surrounding
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the Butler Pennsylvania shooting that occurred. What feels like what
ten days ago now, I mean, it's hard to even
kind of put it all into context. How quickly all
of this has happened. She has now resigned. She is
out of a job. It took her far too long
to resign. The Biden administration has put out a statement
(00:53):
thanking her for her incredible work and for her willingness
to resign. But we didn't talk a ton about the
hearing yesterday because.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It was going on while we were live on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But it basically became untenable, and to the credit of
Democrats and Republicans, everyone lined up and just said this
is absolutely unacceptable, what is going on and teed off
against it. Continuing, Here is Speaker Mike Johnson, who came
(01:28):
on with us Thursday and demanded that Cheetle resign. Reacting
to that resignation that now has happened, here is cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that
it is overdue. She should have done this at least
a week ago. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy
to see that she is heed at the call of
both Republicans and Democrats. Now we have to pick up
the pieces. We have to rebuild the American people's faith
and trust in the Secret Service as an agency. It
has an incredibly important responsibility and protecting presidents, former presidents
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and other officials in the executive branch. And we've got
a lot of work to do. The task force that
we've been putting together is going to be very important.
As I said, they have three responsibilities. To investigate what happened,
the debacle that happened two saturdays ago, to hold those accountable.
It certainly was the director Cheetle, but there may be
others in the line of authority who are also culpable
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and what happened and the errors of mistakes there. And
finally to ensure that those mistakes do not happen again.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, so this was inevitable that this fire. It should
have been firing, right. We don't know where Biden is
for six days. He's vanished. I hope we'll bring back
the actual meritocracy when it comes to protecting our president,
whether it's a Democrat, Republican, independent, whomever it might be,
in the years ahead. This was the biggest failure since
eighty one. The fact that it took this along was indefensible,
(02:50):
but this was the right result at least. It seems,
though still that the only person Joe Biden can fire
is himself. But your reaction to the Secret Service director
finally being done with this job book, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The obvious outcome, meaning it's obviously what should have happened,
and so that's a good thing. I think it was
also inevitable. I think as much as she was getting
beaten up on a bit, deservedly so, but beaten up
on a bit yesterday, I think when it became clear
that the head of the Secret Service, you know in
the line. I don't know if we have it for today,
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but you know, well what happened to the Secret Service
after Reagan got shot. They're like, oh, he stayed. No,
actually he got fired, asked to resign and fired. When
we're in government, I think you can use these pretty interchangeably. Really,
no one gets fired anymore, I think unless you're going
to be criminally prosecuted. And even then, look at it.
Do we have an update on Mendez? By the way,
we should dive into that guy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
He still technically is a senator. I don't think they
forced him out at all, even though he's convicted. I mean,
there was a demand that he resigned, But unlike Santos,
who immediately gets kicked out on the House side, Democrats
keep their felons because has Santos even been convicted yet?
Has Santos even been convicted yet? No, that case hasn't
(04:11):
even gone to trial, right, has it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
No, Santos was convicted of like lying about being on
the men's volleyball team and having Jewish ancestry or something. Look,
it's not stuff that you should be lying about. I'm
not saying it's not weird. But you know, he's not
selling out his car, he's.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Not a convicted felon. He didn't have gold bars from
foreign interest inside of his home.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Based on the work that he had done for them.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So here's what I see on the on the secret
Service side of the oks. I've been thinking a lot
about it. I think I think everyone has been thinking
a lot about it. And it really is as though
if the country were a person with you know, their
their air pods in and walking down the street with
some music playing in your ears, and we walked right
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up to the curb and just stopped for a second
to look, and a you know, a dump truck going
eighty miles an hour just shave the end of our nose.
I mean, that is how close we came as a
country to political cataclysm. And I think that that really
stays with you. I mean there's the relief and the
(05:16):
sense of God's grace that Trump is okay, but we
can't forget. I mean, it was a literal inch from
being anything but okay. So I think the country is
still processing that as we're also processing the fact that
it's really a new election now, Clay, I mean, we
have to think of it in that context. A vice
president ascending to the top of the ticket changes all
(05:36):
the So by the way, we could go back and
talk about some of these dynamics and how this affected
the Jewish vote and all these things because because in
my mind, well now with Kamala, you know, it deserves
a reassessment, right, I mean you have to look at
how they're going to position this new candidate. But just
on the Secret Service aspect of this, I don't know
how much reform you're really going to get out of this,
(05:57):
because there's a let here's what I mean, nine to
eleven happened. And with nine to eleven, yes, there was
failures of intelligence sharing. They called it stove piping where
and they still do this all the time, just you know,
I mean, or at least they were doing what I
was in not going to tell this agency this is
our equities, they would say, in our area of control.
(06:17):
We're not going to share this information. It's too sensitive
to give it to you know, DA, or too sensitive
to give it to FBI or whatever, right, nsay, you
name it. But what they did was what those terrorists
did on that day was devious, but showed a lot
and showed a lot of ingenuity and showed a real
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understanding of how to get around are admittedly weak security procedures.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But it was something new. The Secret service.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, they caught us napping, but they did have
to get creative, like the evildoers had to get creative
on nine to eleven. This secret service, Clay failed in
the most blatant, obvious, straightforward way imaginable.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I have to wonder.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'm sure you'll come back and say, we need better,
We need better communication with local law enforcement. That's going
to be now. You know, local law enforcement has said
that they weren't They were basically just checking in cars,
which I just note that is what local law enforcement should.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Bet to what they should be doing. In a bit
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You don't want the random local police department in charge
of setting up the safety of the president of.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The United States. I understand.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
You know there are former badass Marines who then go
into law enforcement, and maybe they'll go to a small town.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I understand that's real. So you have to call in
and yell at me and be like I could shoot
you know, the wings off a fly at one hundred yards.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Most small town departments have very limited training budgets. When
I mean limited training budgets, they don't pay for AMMO
for their cops to go shoot more than you know,
once or twice a year. Okay, they're not meant to
take on a threat at one hundred yards, five hundred
yards anything like that. Okay, So with that in mind,
all my point play about the Secret Service failure here
(07:59):
is some twenty year old got up on the roof
in the most obvious place possible and was able to
set up with a range finder and take a shot
and put a shot on target and hit the president
in the head, basically in the ear.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean, what are they gonna say for the future.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Don't let the assassin just walk up on the nearest building,
set up like he's got plenty of time, and take
multiple aim shots at an undefended president. I mean, it's
so obvious and so horrific the failure that I don't
know other than like, we're not gonna be so dumb
in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Do you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's not there's not like a change in procedure that
needs to happen other than don't suck at your job.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, if you and I had been there doing a
site visit, we would have been like, okay, let's get
snipers on top of these one hundred proofs everywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That would have been like the first thing we would
think to do.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's why I said, this to me, is a bigger
failure than what happened in nineteen eighty one when Reagan
got shot. Because you're in a sidewalk, a guy's got
a handgun. That is more of a scramble, difficult to
stop situation. And I think it's more of a failure
than what happened to JFK.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
People say, what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
JFK was shot, but nobody was pointing up at Lee,
Harvey Oswald or whomever.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
If there were multiple shooters.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Saying, hey, that guy has a gun, we should do
something about him. For ten minutes before JFK came through
in Dealey Plaza, they knew this guy had a gun.
They knew there was danger. I mean the time, the
timeframe that we had. I flagged this and I mentioned
it to Don Junior last week Buck when we had
(09:39):
him on. But I do think that in many ways,
because Trump avoided assassination, a lot of people just stopped
looking at all of the details that surround us. Listen
to this time Listen to this timeframe. At five ten pm,
Crooks was identified as a person of interest. You know
(09:59):
this Buck, most of you out there know this too.
It's hard to get noticed as a suspicious guy in
a crowd of tens of thousands of people, right, Like,
that's relatively hard for you to be isolated at People say, hey,
there's something wrong with this guy. At five point thirty,
he had a rangefinder. I'm sorry, why are we allowing
(10:22):
people with rangefinders into events like this? I mean, it's
not a golf course, you know, You're not like, you know, binoculars.
Maybe rangefinder, that's very different. At five point fifty two,
he was on the roof, spotted by the Secret Service.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Ten minutes later Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Took the stage. So they saw this guy on the
roof for ten minutes before Trump took the stage. He
didn't fire his first shot until six twelve, twenty minutes
after they noticed him for the first time on the
on the roof. I mean, this is like incompetence on
a level that I don't think just Kim Cheatle getting
(11:04):
fired is enough. And by the way, in her testimony, Buck,
she didn't say, hey, there was only one shooter. I
understand that this shooter is, you know, twenty years old
then clearly probably had mental issues. But the fact that
they have been unable to figure out how and why
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he was able to do this is not helping at all.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The consterio theories what happened with what with her whole approach.
The approach here was what I've always called the bureaucratic
slow roll. She was saying yesterday, I think even AOC,
that's how bad the security failure is. Even AOC is like, yeah,
you should have done better. I mean it's pretty outrageous. Right,
(11:51):
sixty days they needed for the investigation to be complete
about what happened. Now you can say the investigation is
going to be completed in sixty days. You have to
have all necessary pertinent information ready for this hearing ready,
you know, good to go. You can't say I don't know,
we'll know in sixty days, all right, we got to
(12:12):
pay vigration underway.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Even AOC went off on that and said, sixty days
is unacceptable. Right, when AOC is making sense, you have
to acknowledge how much of a failure it is.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, just because AOC says it doesn't make it wrong.
I will admit this. She was totally right, sixty days
is insane. So I think that it's Look, I feel
badly for the people in the secret serve. This is
always what happens, right, You feel badly for the guys
and gals who you know, rank and file are showing
up to do the job every day. I mean I
(12:42):
even still get Clay, I mean I get people will
give me a hard time of being in the CIA,
and I'm like, I showed up every day. And our
job was basically try to help find and kill all
Kaida members.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That was the job.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Pretty important job after nine to eleven, Like we we
actually didn't have a lot of politics in the office
and CTC was let's find terrorists before they can strap
you know, bombs with ball bearings to themselves and kill
as many women and children as possible.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like it was a strange, but you.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Know, because of what what you know, James Comy did,
and then what the CIA director did, and what the
you know and d and I Clapper, all these guys
Brennan at the CIA. People think that that then means
everybody who works at these places is somehow part of
like the deep state conspiration. It's not, that's not true.
The entity the organization can be rotten, but that doesn't
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mean that everybody doesn't mean that they're not affected by it,
but they're not rotten as well. I mean, I thought
it was very given that it's his father we're talking
about here that was in the crosshairs, the the actual crossairs,
you know. Eric Trump even said that the female Secret
Service agent who was just being I mean, she spent
forty eight hours mocked more than almost anybody I've seen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All a year.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know, I mean really being mocked, like he said.
He said that she's a great person and a great shot,
and that that was unfair, you know what I mean.
So I feel badly for the Secret Service agents. But
the Secret Service as an entity has to have in
a spree decorps has to have an accountability that this
can you know, the mission has to be never again,
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something like this the way never again was the mission
for the CIA and FBI after nine to eleven, You
know what I mean. There has to be a mindset
shift where there's a redoubled effort. And I think under
a swamp drained Trump administration, you.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Might get that might want to check the transcripts Flagg
this one. I believe this might be the first time
that AOC has been praised for being right on an issue.
Maybe in the history of the show, historic moment here
of it. I wouldn't doubt it. You know, we're very
generous here on the show. We tell the truth, even
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when it benefits the communists.
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Speaker 4 (16:04):
Let's take a look at this new presidential election that
we are faced with. Here, you could say, Clay, that
we should take a look at what can be unburdened
by what has been. I guess the burden was Joe
Biden and the campaign is no longer burdened with Biden.
That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know.
(16:24):
I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of
her saying that all the time, a phrase that she
uses constantly that I had.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Never heard before ever.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Actually I've never heard someone talking about what can be
unburdened by what has been, but Kama loves it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So we will get into.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Some of that also, how to handle from the Republican
side of things from the Trump side of things, how
to handle her past, and all the rest of it.
She is making her first public appearances. Let's get to
cut eight here. Team here. She is the VP saying
it's a rollercoast, mixed emotions, but we love Joe Biden,
play it, and I.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Know it's been a rollercoaster, and we're all filled with
so many mixed emotions about this.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
I just have to say, I love Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I love Joe Biden, and I know we all do,
and we have so many darn good reasons for loving
Joe Biden, and I have full faith that this team
is the team will be the reason we win in November.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
She is cringe inducing, even when she's saying things that
should be very straightforward. Clay, I think that the same
Democrat capacity to fool themselves into the belief that Joe
Biden does not have sinility. I think that same capacity
for delusion is what is present when they're making it
(17:48):
sound like they believe Kamala Harris and we'll play some
of those clubs later is a great politician. No one
really could possibly think.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That it is so weird in the political sphere to
have this happen. She traveled to Wilmington, Delaware, a state
probably that she spent almost no time in prior to
becoming vice president. Because Joe Biden's from Delaware, she is
now stepping in. They have completely swept out all mention
(18:15):
of Biden. She is keeping the same campaign team, same
campaign headquarters, everything except now she is the head of
the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb, doesn't
basically exist as a part of this ticket anymore. And
we have to figure out who she's going to pick
as vice president. This happens all the time in sports.
That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't
(18:36):
happen very often in politics, where the head coach gets
fired and immediately the new head coach steps in, oftentimes
on his staff with everybody else the same players, management structure,
and suddenly says, hey, I'm the new guy, and everybody
(18:56):
just starts clapping for that person instead. I mean, this
is range. Now she's got to pick who her VP
is going to be. Two favorites right now, according to reporting,
appear to be Mark Kelly, the astronaut senator from Arizona,
and who I believe beat Blake Masters by two or
three points? Am I correcting that in twenty twenty two
(19:18):
to win re election? And the who I think she's
gonna pick the Governor of Pennsylvania, Jos Shapiro. So she's
gonna pick it appears one of those two are favored.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think you're leaving out your buddy. I think getting
uh Basher. I think Basher is because here's how, here's how.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Let's let's do this.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Now, shall we break down the VP stakes once again?
The viepstakes? We got at least we know that Jade
Vince is the Republican vice presidential nominee. Here's what I see, Clay,
if you have a future as a Democrat running for
the top job, you do not want to be in
the number two slot on this Kamala ticket right now,
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because you're just going down.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
With a big l.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
You're taking the loss here. Not a good move. So
that's why Gretchen Whittmer has already made it clear she's like,
I endorse Kamla. I'm not gonna take the VP job
full stop. That's the smart move. By the way, I
think that Whitmer pains me to say this. I think
she could be formidable member we're not getting Trump again, everybody,
this is our last well I mean, assuming he wins
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he doesn't run again, but or you know, if he
didn't win and he ran again. But this is our
last shot of Trump. Let's say we get Trump in,
we got to come up with somebody else. I think
jad Vance, you know, is top of the list right now,
but there'll be others. I think Gretchen Whitmer will be
formidable on her own in twenty twenty eight in that
election cycle which starts in twenty twenty six. Same thing
applies for Gavin Newsom, at least in his own mind.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Clay.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I think he believes he's formidable for the top job
and wants to run. And there are a whole bunch
of other names. I won't go through all of them,
but you're not hearing about them as Kamala VP slot.
Why because the people that are gonna take the Kamala
v pea slot for them, it's a shot at being
a VP. They're never going to be president and they
probably would never be a VP on another Democrat ticket.
So this is the best they could ever really realistically
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hope for. And that's where I think you get Asher
in Kentucky because they're balancing out Kama's a far left
wing candidate everybody. She's a progressive from California except on
one issue, and we should talk about that. On the
criminal justice thing, we should get to that.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I see.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think Gretchen Whitmer knows she's not going to be
picked because they're not going to go with an all
female ticket. So I think she's pulling herself out of
the running in advance because I don't think a female
I've never like, why not an all female ticket just
based on their gender?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't. I don't see that as.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think that they have decided that Kamala Harris needs
to have I'm just telling you, I think they've decided
she needs to have a guy, and I think they
want like the blandest, whitest guy possible to try to
make that ticket more or palatable for these Midwestern voters. Now,
(22:06):
I think Josh Shapiro, who is Jewish, this is Jewish
is a problem for Kamala on the left side in
Michigan and offer all the reasons.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That you find.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I am fascinated by that. CNN came on and said
that she would be in trouble potentially in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
If she picked a Jewish running mate, she.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Might be seeding Michigan to try to win Pennsylvania. That
may be the count And that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is, by the way, a sign of how anti semitic
some of the base of the Democrat Party is, because
you wouldn't say, if Josh Shapiro was a Republican, I
would have been beating the table Trump should pick him
as the VP. If you had a popular Republican governor
in Pennsylvania, Jewish, whatever he is, it would have been
(22:53):
a no brainer for Trump to pick him because that
would make it more likely that Trump would win Pennsylvania.
And if Trump wins Pennsylvania, there is no pathway for
Democrats to win this election.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So the fact that they said.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
This on cn N, they pointed out, hey, a Jewish
running mate could be an issue. There are already people
saying Kamala's Jewish husband could potentially be an issue for her.
That's how anti semitic the left is. If that's true, Buck,
then I think Mark Kelly would be the pick. The
question is is he strong enough in Arizona to flip
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that state back from right now Trump being in the
lead to maintain it and the Democrat camp.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
So my sense is that I think the likeliest pick
is Mark Kelly, but I think that Bashir is right
behind him because he does that whole russ Belt appeal
to the middle of America thing that Kamala is going
to need to be competitive in any even vaguely competitive
(23:57):
in any of those key swing states throughout the Midwest.
So I think those are those are the likely options
you have. I also think that once again, the VP
tends to be an exaggerated part of a of a ticket.
In terms of the election, I think that this is
going to be a Kamala Trump election or Trump Kamala election,
and that's the likeliest way that this You know that
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that's the only way that this thing is going to
be determined.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I thought this was interesting too, though, because.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I disagree and I'm hearing that the GOP is going
to is going to attack her on this and I
disagree with it. Here's Kamala Harris talking about when she
was a prosecutor in San Francisco. This has cut nine
play it.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
You know, as many of you know, before I was
elected as Vice president, before I was elected as United
States Senator, I was the elected attorney general that mentioned
a California and before that that was a courtroom prosecutor.
In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Kinds, creditors who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers,
cheeters who broke the rules for their own game. So
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hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Type all right now, put aside the like that thing.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think it is a.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Mistake if the GOP starts going after Kamala for being
tough on crime, put aside the Trump component of this.
And they did this a little bit during the primary
in twenty twenty. There was that people say they call
her cop Kamala because she was, like, you know, a
cop going around arresting everybody for for weed and things
(25:44):
like that. That is a mistake. She is a far
leftist progressive from California. She raised money for BLM rioters
in her own name. Do not GOP staffers, Capitol Hill
list to me. RNC people listen to me. Do not
make Kamala seem like she used to be a badass
(26:06):
on crime. Very very dumb point out that she is
a progressive leftist who is fine with Soros, Das all
over the country and was all about rioting during BLM.
Do you see what I mean? I think this is
because they've done that. They've gone the wrong direction in
this in the past against Kamala. It also forces you
to be hitting her on two different sides. The way
(26:26):
to attack her, I agree with you, is to say
she moved from a prosecutor who believed criminals should be
put in prison to someone who believes there should be
no consequences for committing crimes. She is too soft on crime.
She used to be right.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, the way I would address it buck is
the same way Joe Biden was right in nineteen ninety
four on the crime bill he was He was one
hundred percent right. It might be the only thing he
got right in his entire political career. He turned his
back on the tough on crime bills in order to
be elected in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Kamala is actually far worse than Biden.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Because Biden was an adroit enough politician, never too specifically
called to defund the police. Kamala is on tape saying
we need to defund the police. The way to attack
her is there. Biden was actually a better candidate. I
think on this issue because he was never crazy enough
to give all of his support to the far left
(27:25):
wing idea of defunding the police. Kamala was She's not
as skilled a politician as Joe Biden, and actually is
one of the reasons that Joe Biden became the nominee
and then the president in twenty twenty is that he
did not totally go off the cliff with the BLM.
You rioting, defund the police, abolish prisons, Democrat lunacy of
(27:48):
that year. He let the shock troops. He's not opposed
to it, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
He let the shock troops of the Democrat Party do
what they do and mobilize and terrorize, but he knew
for his own purposes, don't go along with that. Let
Antifa be Antifa, but I pretend to be lunch pale
Joe who rides the chow chow with the union members
and everything else. Right, I mean, that's that was the
whole game. Kamala went along with it because Kamala has
(28:16):
to play the race politics angle for her own reasons.
So Kamala was all BLM, and Kamala was supporting the
rioters and saying you get them money to get them
out of jail at all this stuff. Hate her on
that because I have already seen early indications they're gonna say, oh, well,
Kamala used to lock people up for weed. Kamala locking
people up is a good thing. Okay, Yeah, we want
(28:37):
more of the locking people up for breaking the law.
I mean, not obviously for just having some weed, but
that's not what really was going on.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
We come back, I'll answer your question about how aggressive
Trump should be on going after Kamala for this sixty
year old married man relationship, because I think I've got
the answer.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'll tell we're gonna. We're gonna.
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Speaker 4 (30:27):
We mentioned Kamala Harris's favorite praise before. He might be
wondering he's been unfair to just point this out. Is
she really using it that much? Or we exaggerating?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You tell me how many times have you heard that phrase?
And then how many times will we hear it right now?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
In public pronouncements from Kamala Harris? Play it what can be?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
What should be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
What can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 7 (31:00):
What can be unburdened by what has been? See what
can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
What can be unburdened by what has been?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
What can be unburdened by what has been? Unburdened by
what has been? And knowing what can be, have a
sense of vision about what can be unburdened by what
has been. There are those who are unable to see
what can be, but there are many more who are
able to see what can be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't
determine the future. I mean, there's a lot of ways
that if she felt like, but that is clearly her favorite,
her favorite phrase.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That is there her marquee phrase that everyone, it's not
even a good phrase.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's not hard to even understand it, right, like we're
not Yeah, your point, the past doesn't dictate the future
is something that everybody understands, like this is just a
gobbling goook phrase that actually is hard to even work through.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind
of phrase that a person who has been padded on
the back and told oh, you're so smart and great
well everyone you know, her whole professional life while everyone
was like what the heck was that? It's kind of
phrase somebody like that would keep using because no one
will tell me, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
What is that even?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
And I think that that speaks very much to the
reality of Kamala Harris. So this is Look, I'm sure
you saw David Sacks who was on with us during
the RNC. He's a one of the you know, big
big dogs out of Silicon Valley, one of the big
boys out of Silicon Valley. They do with their own
podcast over there all in he said that he tweeted
(32:49):
this out. According to Axios, Biden didn't want to drop out,
in part because Harris wasn't up the taking on Trump.
Democrats ignored this concern because they were so eager to
dump by. But I suspect Biden will be proven correct
in the weeks ahead and Democrats will have buyers or
more so, he said that that was just a few
hours after our show yesterday, And remember what I said
on the show yesterday. They will rue the day. I
(33:11):
think Democrats have made a huge mistake, and I don't
think that anyone would accuse me of being mister optimism
and politics usually about you know what our sides. I
think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go
down as one of the one of the additional self
inflicted wounds of the Democrat Party in this election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement
campaign in twenty twenty and it worked. They only have
to hide Kamala from herself for like the next twelve weeks.
So I don't know how active she's gonna be on
(33:51):
the campaign trail, and I don't know to what extent
anybody's gonna hold her accountable. Remember it's crazy buck in
six weeks people start voting. Four of those days are
the DNC. They're going to write her a probably decent
speech that she's going to deliver well off of the teleprompter,
and then we'll be right there boom, people will start voting.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I see what you're saying, but I would put this
into the mix as well. They were able to run
Biden in twenty twenty based on the perception that people
had of Biden from twenty ten or maybe even the
year two thousand, Right, Biden's this old white guy's been
around forever. Everybody kind of knows him, who follows politics
(34:36):
at all, you know, he's sort of aware of him.
And by putting him in the basement, they were able
to hide his primary weakness, which was the obvious physical
and mental frailty that time had done to him, basically,
I mean the realities of it. Right. Hiding Kamala I
don't think has the same benefits at all, because Kamala
(34:59):
is they've been hiding kam Laclay as the VP. Really
for the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again
and again to make her the heir apparent, to make
her the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it
has been She's a clay, she's a laughline. She's been
a point of mockery for the Biden team for years now.
(35:22):
You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I
don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't
have any laurels.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they
wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll
out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what
a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're
going to have at least one debate, and she's not
going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did.
(35:50):
And they're all going to line up on MSNBC and
CNN and they're going to talk about what an incredible
intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was no comparison
at all against Trump. And they are going to hammer
home any criticism of her as sexist and racist, which
is what every DEI hire does, and she is the
(36:13):
ultimate DEI higher. They are going to simultaneously convince all
of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are young women,
that Trump is going to knock on their door and
drag them out by their hair if they get accidentally pregnant,
(36:35):
and the handmade's tail is going to become the real
life I'm just telling you what they're gonna run. Oh
and they're cocky because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe Biden
was a joke. But they picked him and they ran
that campaign, and they dragged Joe Biden across that line,
as you've pointed out to me, So they did have
(36:57):
cover valid Can I just say, Clay, you're talking about
the message, and you're and you're right.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint
Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's
right about how they're going to position Kamala, and you're
also I agree. I think this is obvious that they're
going to start already. They have to get the Oh
my gosh, Kama, look at the numbers. Yeah, already out
there now Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've
got to dig into it a little bit more to
(37:22):
make sure this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty
four Trump forty two in registered voters as of yesterday.
That's the first I told you this is what they're
going to find a couple of coursa the momentum has flipped.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
They're going to say, I'm.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Going to tell you right now, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it.
And now you're going to have me saying do we
trust the polls? No, when the polls have shown the
Democrat is going to get absolutely destroyed and now they
have a new candidate and they can completely shape perception
as they see fit based upon the polling that they do.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Do I try us the polls right now?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
No, I'm going to look very closely at them and
ask a lot of questions about how who they're you know,
who they're pulling, how they're doing it, what the questions are,
Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is
in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically
over right correct. So so I mean, do you think
they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump
the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
No, I don't think they're going to tell you that
Kamal has taken the lead, that this is a brilliant
strategic move that just preparing you for the next week,
and they will find a couple of polls, they'll get
a little bit of a bump, and then they'll come
back in a couple of weeks and the numbers will
come back down and they'll start to panic a little
bit more. But I'm telling you get ready for the
(38:43):
next week. Kamala has taking the lead. Oh Kamala momentum.
I can write all of the different headlines that you're
going to see at CNN and MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Just get ready. This is what they're gonna do.
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We got our friend Tammy Bruce in the mix right now.
She is a Fox News contributor, New York Times bestselling author.
Her new book, Fear Itself, just comes out this week.
It is out today, A cop today Today. I say
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So Tammy, before we're gonna get into the book in
(40:57):
a second, can I just start. I feel like the
question of the day is now that we know that
until they change, it is Kamala, right, it is Kama
the Republicans face. Are Republicans underestimating Kamala Harris in this contest?
Speaker 9 (41:10):
I will remind people of the twenty twenty two midterms.
We were very enthusiastic about that, but you know, the
Republicans do have this ability to snatch defeat out of
the jaws of victory. But what we saw from the
convention is that things have changed to some degree. Well produced,
well organized, The messaging from the Republicans is consistent, and
(41:32):
that is because I think it's fair to say that
Trump has finally coalesced everyone together. And I don't know
if they wanted us to really just love the R
and C. The convention even more when people like Liz
Cheney and Mitt Romney and others said, oh, we're not
going to go, And you notice how well everything ran,
and how it was about people together, caring about the issues,
(41:57):
wanting to make their lives better, wanting to make everybody
else's life better. The message was clear, and of course,
with an injured Trump, it was a remarkable display. So
I think that when it comes to Harris, it is,
you know, just for the Democrats, beware of what you
wish for, because you just might get it. It seems,
you know, people maybe didn't know or had forgotten about
(42:18):
how awful a candidate she was. There are stories out
there from twenty nineteen and onwards that describe the kind
of chaos that surrounded her own campaign, the stories from
twenty one when she was the vice president, and even
recently from the Telegraph, I think today or yesterday about
the nature of her inability to keep staff, because in
(42:40):
the New York Times, in their coverage old staff saying
that she and staff that had left, saying that she
was a bully, that there was like this soul destroying,
you know, horrible feeling in her office. She was never
engaged so I think she's not changed. They are put
forth the same person who got not one, not one state,
(43:04):
who did not get one vote by herself, is not
liked by the people who work with her. So I
think that this might be a hail Mary pass regarding
the down ballot races, trying to get people in who
are not even going to vote at all, trying at
least even for a few districts, maybe in Wisconsin, maybe
(43:25):
in Michigan, so that some of the House races can
be saved.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And other than that.
Speaker 9 (43:30):
I think it's clear. It's a it's a team and
a party that has been deluded for a long time
and operating exclusively on fear and envy and demonization, and
we're gonna it's that's what They're going to double down
in all of that, and we're gonna And Kamala Harris
already has by making some remarks about Trump being a predator,
(43:52):
so obviously that pledge to tone down the rhetoric. After
the assassination attempt, you know, the Kui gets shot in
the face, so let's start calling him a predator now.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Tammy, big debate on the show today and then I'll
let you get into the book, Kamala Harris began her
political career by being twenty nine years old and sleeping
with sixty year old Willie Brown, who was married the
mayor of San Francisco. Buck Is like, no, do not
touch it. Trump should stay away from it. I say
(44:22):
if Kamala and a potential debate comes after him over
Stormy Daniels, he should CounterPunch on this. Two parter here
for you is do you think that that is a
story that would impact married women in particular in terms
of what they think of Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Two?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Do you think Trump himself should go anywhere near it?
Or would you advise him to stay away from it?
It's true, it's real.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
How do you handle it?
Speaker 9 (44:49):
It is? And yet what is moving the American people
are not the personal stories, right. The demonization of Trump
did not work. It was never really about Joe AND's age.
It's about the issues that affect every morning when people
wake up. Do not know what they're going to put
in the kid's lunch box, don't know what the protein's
going to be for dinner, don't know if it's going
(45:11):
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Speaker 3 (45:14):
You know?
Speaker 9 (45:15):
Pack of eggs, Is there going to be enough gas
in the car, etc. Those are the issues that matter.
She has been have a hand in the destruction of
the ability for the American people to be able to
trust in what the next day will be. So I
would argue, and we saw this from Trump throughout the convention.
(45:36):
He's a funny guy. There are some, you know, remarks
that are personal, that are funny. Many people have been
bringing this up about her, but I can tell you
when they're looking at who can they trust, and already
there's one lie. They're trying to pitch Kamala as you know,
an end to the status quo, and they're doing that
because they know she's part of the problem. She is
(45:58):
the issue, and more so than Biden, because she has
her cognitive abilities are fine, and she's been in that
White House likely considering the leftist rush of this administration
with a big hand in what's happened. So I would
recommend you stay away from the personal and if she
(46:20):
only can do the personal. But I think that Trump's
strength despite everything they've done, the trial, him sitting in
that courtroom, Stormy Daniels on the stand, the commentary, she's
already called him a predator American. His numbers went up,
and he's just doing his job and wants to save America.
He gets shot in the face for his commitment to
(46:42):
this country, and Americans want to trust the future. And
what she did when she was twenty nine is not
really going to matter to them, but it might rile
up a certain category. But I just think you just
stick with the issues. I don't think you have to
worry about what people are going to say. Trump needs
to himself, but he needs to stick with the issues
(47:02):
because he's got one more chance. We've got maybe a
few four more years of him as president, and then
all bets are off and we've got to get this
one right.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Fear itself exposing the left's mind killing agenda. That is
Tammy's new book out today. Everyone get yourself a copy.
I've got my copy right here in my studio in Miami.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Tammy.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I'm looking forward to diving into it. I've read, you know,
the first few pages. I have a sense of where
it's going. I feel like you're gonna tell me that
when the left says that the future is basically up
in flames because of climate change for their agenda, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (47:41):
You know this is it's a first of all, we
all know COVID is the best, most immediate example of
what the establishment's capable of and what they had planned
for us. But this is a book that you know,
we've all known something's not right. We've known it for
a very long time pre COVID. It starts with, you know,
political correctness, where you have to not maybe say certain words,
(48:03):
and then we get into identity politics, where it's about
what color people are or their gender or sexual preference
or whatever that you have to think about. Suddenly we're
being divided up into you know, God help us into
balkanize little groups which you know are easier to hate on.
And then we get into the cancel culture, and you're
(48:23):
going to get fired if you don't use the right
pronouns and the world's going to end in twelve years
if you don't stop breathing and using straws. It's insane.
But there is a method to this madness. And my
message to everyone, but you know, their message is all
of you are a problem. Do nothing because you're destroying
(48:43):
the planet and humanity as we know it. Leave it
to us, your betters, and we'll take care of it
and we'll make sure that and we won't have to
hurt you or punish you if.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
You just do what we say.
Speaker 9 (48:54):
The fact is all of that fear, that chronic fear,
the mass anxiety, is our None of it is natural.
It is not organic. It's not a new normal, and
it is not inevitable. It is the kind of thing
that is so weak they can't have you notice it,
and things move so quickly.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
They just want to.
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Move you through and the thing, and they do it
because fear, which is meant to be transitory, if it's
a gift, if it's transitory, and it helps you make
decisions about what to do, chronic fear with anxiety makes
you retreat. It makes you unable to make decisions based
on the emotional basis, and so to save yourself and
(49:38):
to not be punished, you begin to obey. And it's
very similar to domestic violence. It is the same technique.
It is attacking your self esteem, telling you you're the problem,
saying that unless you do X, Y, and Z, you
will be punished, and that we have to hurt you
because we love you, and if you just do as
(49:59):
we see you will be fine. That is the same
thing and it is. It informs everything the left does
and without the individual American being trained, and it's Look,
the human mind is fragile. It's brainwashing. There's gas lighting.
We're being trained to because we don't know what the
new language rules are or what you can say without
(50:22):
being called a bigot, maybe being fired, et cetera. You
say nothing if it's too dangerous to speak. You stop
thinking about the issues themselves. The bad economy adds more fear.
You then have no money to defend yourself or to
participate in politics, no food, you don't know what the
food is going to be on the table adds to
(50:42):
the fear. The nature of yes, losing your job or
being called a name on social media, and where then
there's you know, the cancel culture, you know, build up.
All of it is meant, and Elon Musk has saved
us a little bit in that regard. But all of
that was meant, including with the censorship of our conversations
and the new words we're supposed to use, the words
(51:04):
we're not supposed to use. You know, the gays now don't.
The game mafia don't want you to use the word homosexual.
And I think that's because it's based in science, and
they don't want any implication of gender existing. And for
your audience to know I'm also I'm a gay woman,
so everybody can calm down in that regard. But this
is for me after having been on the left. We
(51:27):
can fight this and it can be defeated easily once
you see it. It's the difference of when you think
there's a lion in your room and the lights are off,
and you turn the lights on and it's really just
your main coon. Everything is fine, but you have to
have the light on. I want this book to do
that for people. It shows the history. It's an ancient technique.
(51:49):
The examples global warming, the riots of twenty twenty, Antifa,
the media is complicity in this education, the nature of Marxism,
and the fact that yes, people aren't going insane. You
can defeat it by the personal action of recognizing it.
And I have a series of packs for people to
(52:12):
make with themselves. The first one, you, guys, is not
allowing strangers to tell you who you are, to dictate
who you are. So if you've got an opinion about
that men should not be on women's sports teams, know
you're not a bigot. And you're not a sexist and
you're not a transphobe. That it treat it like if
(52:33):
somebody called you a cocker spaniel, would you immediately look
at your butt to see if there was a tail.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 9 (52:41):
And that's every accusation the left makes has to be
treated in the same way. So I've got a number
of techniques with which we can use to break the spell,
as I put it, And we're going to have to
because all of this identity politics and attacks and violence
and threats of danger, and they're doing it to their
(53:01):
own base, are going to be doubled down on through
November fifth.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Tammy Bruce, everybody. Fear Itself is the book, Tammy, sounds
like compelling stuff. Congrats, thanks you on publishing today.
Speaker 9 (53:13):
I don't have any I don't have an opinion, as
you can tell. So I'm glad, thank you, I'm grateful
you guys let me on.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Oh absolutely, and we hope that you rocket up the
bestseller chart, so we'll check in on that. We'll have
a link up to the book at clayanbuck dot com.
Fear Itself. Thanks so much, Jan, Thank you, sir.
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you on your purchase, so you're getting top value for
your and they've been doing this manufacturing for two decades.
The real thing about Bear Creek Arsenal is getting the
name out. That's what we're doing here on this show.
Because everyone I know who goes to the website gets themself
a Bear Creek Arsenal pistol rifle upper receiver. They go,
oh my gosh, this place is amazing. You almost can't
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believe how good the prices are, especially when you're like
me and you get out to the range with your
Bear Creek Arsenal ar with your Bear Creek Arsenal nine
millimeter or whatever caliber you like. At your pistol and
you actually take it for a test run, so to speak,
you're gonna be like, this is the best firearms company
out there for me. Now I gotta get more. Go
to Bear Creekarsenal dot com. Use my name Buck as
your promo code. They've got amazing sales this month July only,
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so you got to go this week basically because July's
ending soon. Bearcreekarsenal dot com. Use my name Buck and
you'll get ten percent off your order.
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