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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us. It is
debate Day, nine pm Eastern, six pm on the West Coast,
Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris from Philadelphia, perhaps the only
debate the two of them will have all throughout the season.
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We are exactly eight weeks from election day today. That is,
if my math is right, fifty six days away. Many
of you will be able to vote in a month
or less, depending on what community you are in. It
is officially go time. We will dive into what we
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believe are the biggest and most important aspects of the debate.
Certainly we'll be breaking it all down for you tomorrow.
In earnest poles have begun to turn against Kamala Harris.
The analogy that I would make since football season is
he is Donald Trump, has the ball, He is winning.
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He can run out the clock by simply running off
tackle and putting together a couple of first downs. Will
see whether or not he is able to do so
again nine pm Eastern. I know almost all of you
will be watching to see what we get. And while
there's lots of discussions about what version of Trump we
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will get. To be fair, he was awful. I think
he acknowledges this in the first debate that he had
against Joe Biden. He was much better in the second debate.
He obviously knocked out Joe Biden on June twenty seventh,
in the first debate of this presidential cycle. We will
see how he does against Kamala Harris. But I do
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think Buck, we have to spend a little bit of
time to start off the show today just reiterating for
you how crazy far left wing Kamala Harris really is.
And they keep finding more and more receipts from her
failed twenty twenty presidential campaign, where everyone was competing to
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be the furthest left wing they could possibly be with frankly,
almost the exception of Joe Biden, everybody else was trying
to get to the left of Bernie Sanders because they
thought that was the pathway to end up being the nominee.
And as part of an ACLU I believe it was
a written survey see an end of their credit went
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back and tracked down these answers. Kamala Harris was asked
about whether or not she believed in sex change operations
paid for by taxpayers for illegal immigrants. It sounds like
mad lib crazy liberal perspective. And she was asked about
drug possession. She said yes on sex changes, and she
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said that you should be able to possess crack, fentanyl,
whatever drug you wanted. She was in favor of decriminalizing possession.
That really happened. Aaron Burnett, the host of the CNN
show on which this report was shared, even herself, seems
staggered by the implications and the fact that Kamala Harris
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did not really in her campaign have any explanation for
these insanely far left wing policies. I want to give
CNN credit something we don't say often on this show.
This is what it sounded like last night on Aaron Burnett.
As that was all laid out.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
On immigration, she made this open ended pledge to end
immigrant attention. She said she supported taxpayer funded gender transition
surgeries for detained migrants.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
She also said she's.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
A pair funded gender transition surgeries for detainment change Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
She actually said she supported.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
she was asked this, and she said she also supported
it for federal prisoners now. She also pledged to slash
immigration detention by fifty percent, close all family and private facilities,
and decrease funding for ICE and then the.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
ICE detainers with local law enforcement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
She also buck said that she would end all criminal
penalties for having crack and finnel, among other things. This
is crazy town even for Democrats. What's your reaction here
when you see this coming out, not only coming out,
but CNN being the one to cover it.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Kamala Harris is a far left radical who would have
no chance of winning any nationwide election without the media
being willing to completely cover for her, live for her,
carry water for her, do everything that they think that
is possible, really to create an image of somebody that's
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just not based in reality. And when Kamala Harris has
been when she was asked about this very gently, I
might add by Dana Bash over at c ND recently.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Right, it wasn't a Dana bash she was doing the interview. Right,
They're all the same at CNN. It's all blends together.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Remember, she kept saying, my principles haven't changed, which I
thought was interesting because I don't think Kamala Harris actually
has any principles, at least not as a person in
public life. I think that she is a devotee of
power and of being around the powerful wielding power in
their name, and I think she's a vessel for the
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Democrat machine. I do not believe that she actually really
believes in anything. And the fact and the way you
know this is that she took positions, Clay, and this
is what's coming up in that ACLU questionnaire segment they
did on CNN. She took positions that nobody would ever
think would play well nationally, right. I mean, you couldn't
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think for a second that some of these things that
she was in now banning FRACKA mean, these are things
that somebody says if their plan when they say it
is to lie and said that I never said it,
or just changed their mind the moment they run up
against political resistance. This is why I have had a
dare I say it, a quiet and cool confidence about
Trump's future here ever since Kamala became the nominee, which
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always factored into my assessment of why Joe Biden had
I know, the debate disaster happened, but why Biden was
actually a better play, a safer play, in many ways
than Kamala Harris. Not only does she lack the political
skills we talked about that yesterday that you've had in
some other politicians, particularly some other Democrat politicians in recent cycles,
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she also is somebody who can't really claim to stand
for anything other than whatever works in the moment. And
I think that that lack of authenticity, coupled with the
lack of authenticity that she exudes when she's just talking
to people, right, I mean, she comes across as inauthentic,
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and her political program, you know, her platform, whatever you
want to call it, is also deeply anauthentic because she
doesn't really care, well, what works. What do you need
me to say? That's what Kamala will say. So I
think that this is tonight. You know, you're gonna see
a lot of dancing. Remember even Gavin Newsom when he
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debated Ron DeSantis, he did a lot of oh, bud,
you know, just I'm just gonna talk in circles here
and be handsome.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Didn't work.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
People saw it, and I think they'll see through Kamala
Harris tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
To be fair, Hannity was fact checking Gavin Newsom in
real time and calling out his lies, and I think
that really rattled Gavin Newsom. The facts weren't on his
side and they were shown to him. I do think
this really cuts through the noise.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If Trump says to Kamala Harris, in addition to wanting
to leave the border wide open, you believed that we
should be paying taxpayer American taxpayers should be paying for
sex change surgery for illegal immigrants, that is Banana Land crazy.
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And let me give you a line here, Buck. If
Trump wanted to take control of this debate early. This
came from an emailer and it's actually an incredible suggestion,
and I forwarded it to the Trump team. Buck, what
if Trump, in his opening response, said, I want to
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do something that's going to really stun everybody here today.
I want to thank Kamala Harris. I want to thank you,
Kamala for me being alive today, because if you hadn't
been such a disaster at the border, and I hadn't
turned my head to look at the graphic of all
of the illegal immigrants that you have allowed into this country,
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I would have been murdered by an assassin on July
thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania. The only reason I'm alive today
is because you did such a bad job at the
Border that I had to turn and look at that
graphic the exact moment that guy fired a bullet. I
think that it would be like a holy crap moment
right off the top.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know this.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So much of the tone of a debate is set
in the first five minutes, and a lot of people
tune in for the first five or ten minutes and
then they kind of get everything gets all the noise
kind of gets in your head and you can't keep
up with it all. This is an average viewer. I
think if he came out with a punchy line like that,
that ties her directly to the failures at the Border,
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sex change operations. Things like that. He sets the tone.
It's like hitting a big punch early in a boxing match.
And I think a lot of people would resonate. And
here's the other thing about these debates, and you know it,
and I think this was the Biden team what they
found out. Biden got knocked out on June twenty seventh,
but we kept watching the clips four weeks. It's not
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just what's said, it's what goes viral and what clips
echo through social media and solidify the opinion of what
was said. Because most people are going to watch all
ninety minutes. Everyone in America is going to see at
least one thirty or sixty second clip. What are those
distilled moments and how do they capture the zeitgists. It's
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not just the debate anymore, it's the echo of the
viral clips for weeks after. I think that we can
all expect that ABC is going to be favorable toward Kamala.
They can't make it too obvious because then that's counterproductive
for them. But I think that ABC will show us
a different a slightly different approach than what cen end did,
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even where they decided, for once, let's have a pretty neutral,
pretty neutral.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Monitor see and it end did a good job.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You know, there was nothing I would If there was
anything I found objectionable in the way Sin and moderated
that debate, I would have said it. But I didn't
see anything that was a problem. I thought all the
questions were fair.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
This is the thing.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It's possible to do that right. Yes, it's worth reminding.
You know, people say, oh, well they can't do you know,
everyone has a bias. I mean you can come close
enough in a debate. You know, referees and sports aren't perfect,
but like they can get the major calls.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Should note in fact, if the game's well officiated, you
don't even notice who called the game. That's what the
best debate is. You shouldn't have the debate moderator be
a storyline at all. They should fade into the background
and it should be about the people on the stage.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
And I do think that you'll see just the questions
will be more favorable to Kamala trying to get out
of the way maybe some of.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Her weaknesses or early on.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
But look, she's not a good orator, she's not a
good public speaker, she is not smart on policy. She
really has very little to play here except some emotional
appeal of being a woman, being a minority. You know,
Trump is a big bad man. And abortion. She's going
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to lean on abortion, every single abortion a lot. You know,
the single most important policy by far to the Democrat
Party is the ability to kill babies in the womb,
and and that is that'll be a part of it.
But I really do think that there's there's no way
she comes out of tonight looking great. I think her
team is just hoping that she can sort of keep
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things status quo. In terms of if I'm Kamala Harris
and I come out of tonight's debate without a clear
gain of any kind for Trump, that's a win.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's the best I see. I think she has. I
think she's losing, and I think she needs to win
or no debate.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I agree, but I'm saying she doesn't yourtation, your point,
so woe that the best she can hope for is
a draw. The best she can hope for his status
quo draw. Realistically in terms of public opinion and the
polling after this, Yeah, of course. I mean she'd love
to turn the momentum.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
She is losing and she could be behind two or
three points after this in a way where everyone.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Goes, oh, this is not looking good. Correct.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think the result of this one will not be
the knockout that we saw in June twenty seventh. I
believe both parties will turn and raise their gloves, and
the people who like Trump will say Trump one, and
the people who like headline Kamala one.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Clay Travis with a bold prediction, Kamala Harris will do
better than a senile dementia.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Riddle Joe Biden, I would, I mean, that would be
amazing to watch if Kamala somehow was worse than Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I don't know what she would.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, she might probably have to collapse like faint,
you know, when she gets asked about sex change operations
for migrants. I don't even know how she could hardly
be worse. But again, if I'm advising Trump, it is economy,
border crime, just perry an attack, and I will say,
don't follow her down the rabbit hole. Don't go down
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the rabbit hole with whatever argument she wants to make.
He did that a little bit with Biden, Remember when
they started arguing over how history was going to judge
their presidencies. And I'm like, no one ever says that
a Republican did a good job. Don't argue about what
historians think. Just kind of stay on the issues, and
if he can, he's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's a side note, Clay. It's one of the sad
things for me.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
So many contemporary historians, they're just they're all communists now.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It is scary and unfortunate the.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Historians now, so many of them, it seems like they
might as well be the gender studies professor team at
Wesleyan or something like. They're just so many left wing
historians and a good tell as always if they use BCE.
By the way, that's all you have to know.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We're coming up on the first break. But there's a
world where I would have been a history professor. I
was a history major. I absolutely loved it. And if
you go back and look at popular historians, so many
of them truly love America. And it does seem like
many modern day historians really hate America.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And it's you.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Know, they have such power to tell the story of
America that it's sad to see the story of America
becomes so negative. History should be one of the more
objective humanities profession or humanity these endeavors, and unfortunately it's
it's like gender studies now in a lot of cases. Anyway,
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
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Speaker 5 (16:22):
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Speaker 3 (16:31):
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Speaker 5 (16:34):
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great to have you back. We've got a debate tonight.
How are you seeing it as we get ready here
to watch these two intellectual combatants have at it on stage.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, the pressure's on Kamala Harris, but I don't believe
the Vice president is going to do anything different, So
I've got to our website. The strategy is, no matter
what the issue, Trump did it so open borders and
catastrophe stemming from that. It was Trump's immigration policies that
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did it. He doesn't want immigration reform, inflation. Trump lighted
the fuse that afghanis stand. It was Trump's policies misguided
for the Taliban that led to that. That's what Harris
is going to put out there, so people should expect it.
Now with Donald Trump, you don't know what he's going
to do, right, which is always the drama when Trump
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appears anywhere. If it were me and I wrote a
message of the day and a column entitled the Kamala Mystery,
if I were Donald Trump tonight, I would understand that
no corporate media type is ever going to challenge or
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define Kamala Harris. So this is my chance to do it,
and how you do it is this. So David m Are,
the anchor of ABC News, he asked the Trump a question, right,
and Trump has to be polite tonight. Number one. Polite
should have that tattooed onto his wrist. Polite because David,
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I'll get to that at a moment. But I want
to tell the audience watching this evening that I'm very
uneasy standing here on the stage as an American, not
as somebody who's running for president, because I don't know
what has happened in the past three and a half years.
I don't know why the Biden Harris administration opened the border,
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leading to millions of foreign nationals, some of them dangerous,
coming into this country. I don't know. When I left
office that inflation was one point four percent and I
went to nine percent in a year. I don't know why.
So I hope you guys asked the Vice president those
questions because I'd like to know. Now back to you question, David,
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you see what I mean. So he embarrasses and puts
the moderators on the spot. He gets his point across
that Tom Larrence doesn't define anything, and then he can
answer any questions they throw out. So I don't know
whether Donald Trump reads my stuff. I think he might,
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but if he does that, he'll win the election. If
he does that.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We just had a big discussion about who's actually up
for grabs here, and the data from twenty twenty reflects
that Trump didn't actually underperform massively among Black voters, Hispanic voters,
any of those groups. He actually lost a lot of
suburban women. And I think it's because they bought into
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the idea, and I think some of them are embarrassed,
but they bought into the idea that COVID was going
to kill everybody and that every school had to shut down,
and that Trump was uniquely un qualified to deal with COVID.
Then Joe Biden came in and he tried to mandate
COVID shots, and basically he flailed around for three and
a half years, and I think it's been an unmitigated disaster.
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Do you buy into some of those suburban women are
still up to grabs up for grabs? If not, which
groups do you think are going to end up making
this decision to who wins the election? And how would
you suggest Trump should go after them.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I don't think that Trump should target any groups. I
think that he should basically speak to everybody as an individual,
one on one. I'm the former president. Here's what I
did for you. It's what I'm going to do a
few votes for me. I wouldn't target various groups. I
disagree a little bit with your analysis on women. I
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think that Donald Trump is a problem with American women
because they don't like his demeanor. He's mean, and women
take that much more personally than men. And I think
that's a fact. And so it's not so much that
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they objected his COVID policy or whatever. And now women,
the majority of American women do the grocery shopping for
the home. They got to know they're getting pounded. They
got to know that discretionary income is way off. So
it's a matter of Trump trying to reassure women that
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he's going to help them and their families if he's elected,
and he's got to do it in a way that's
not He don't have to be provocative doing that. You
don't say, Look, you remember the old Saturday Night Live skit, right, Jane,
you ignorant slut? Remember that dan Ackroyd you guys don't
remember that too young. Yeah, right, Well that Trump does
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a variation of that every time he talks about aris.
You don't need to do that. You just have to say, look,
the woman doesn't have any problem solving skills and won't
even give an interview. And here's a kicker. I sent
the book to Trump Confronting the Prisons because Trump's a
friend of mine, and Trump's in the book, okay, And
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I sent him the note. I said, look, you might
want to read this book because it's relevant to you
today because Kamala Harrison her campaign is doing exactly what
Warren Harding did in nineteen twenty, exactly the same thing.
She's not answering any questions about anything, and he believes
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she can win doing that, and Harding won, He beat
the Democrats because the country was set up with Woodrow Wilson.
It was all personal and Harding was a disaster. I
mean that it was so bad it was almost laughable.
And that's why the relevancy of my book to today
is important. But anyway, Trump needs to be a human
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being up there, not a caricature. No matter how she
tries to bait him. Just use the old Reagan line
to Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty. There you go again.
Just use it and everybody at home will go, yeah,
there she goes again. Listen, if it were you Clay
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or you Buck or me O'Reilly, and we were on
that stage against Kamala Harris, what do you think would happen?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
A visceration? She would be destroyed utterly, be a tough
knight for Kamala.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
There would. Because you do this for a living. I
do this for a living. We analyze what is actually
happening without crazy emotion. And that's what Trump has to do. Now.
He's been told that a million times. But whether he
can bring discipline to his presentation, I think he will.
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He's got to know this is his shot, because he
should be ten points up.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
How are you feeling about where Trump is right now
in the momentum shift?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Bill?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
I mean the polls now, some of them are showing
Trump ahead a little, some of them are showing in
the Swing States basically a tie within the MARGI of error,
but better than Trump was doing in twenty twenty at
this point, better than Trump was doing in twenty sixteen
at this point when he won. Are you feeling confident,
or do you still have concerns that Trump's going to
have to turn on the after burners here to get
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it done.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I think it's a dead heat, and I think that
Donald Trump has to cut down on his rhetorical mistakes.
If he does that, he probably will eat it out
because I don't believe Kamala Harris has any game at all.
You want to do a sports metaphor, what does she got?
(25:07):
Tell me what she's got? Tell me one thing, just
one thing that's better now than it was four years
ago when Trump left office. Just give me one. But
that's the kind of stuff you've got to present to
the American people. You got to just get it down
to the basic level and stop with all this crazy
stuff about skin color and unmarried people and cats and dogs.
(25:30):
This is insane. You just say, hey, you're an American,
you're living your life. Is anything in your life better
now than it was when I was there? And he
answers no. All the polls show that. So I'm a
simple man. You guys know that. And it's a miracle
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that a simple man like Bill O'Reilly can be the
best selling nonfiction author in the world. But simplicity can
go a long way.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's not a bad line to be able to drop. Congratulations.
I know you've got a new book coming out today.
What do you today? In fact, yes, and I'm sure
it will be a bestseller.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
As confronting the presidents on the day of the debate,
Clay no less almost like a not bad.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Time at all. All right, So.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You we talked about how CNN's moderators basically vanished on
June twenty seven to a large extent and allowed the
story to be Trump versus Biden, and obviously Biden's mental
and physical cognition revealed itself.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Do you think ABC's.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Moderators will do the same or tomorrow morning when everybody
is assessing and later tonight as everybody breaks down, do
you think the ABC moderators make themselves a part of
this debate or do they kind of fade into the
background as CNN did?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Excellent question, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
So.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
As I reported the day after the CNN debate that
sunk Biden, the moderators Pepper and Bash were told you
better be fair, your jobs on the line, So they
were scared to death and they were neutral. When Dana
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Bash interviewed Kamala Harris. She turned into poor performance because
she didn't follow up. He refused to she allowed evasions.
So tonight you got David Muir, not known for being
a very astude interviewer. Would you both agree with that?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yes, he's very handsome though, as play says, as Place.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Is incredibly handsome and the most popular ABC the News broadcast.
He's very good at reading glass, right, Yeah, he needs glass.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
So you guys know, I worked as a correspondent for
ABC News under Jennings Peter Jenners, and I knew Copple,
and I knew the whole boy, the whole network.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
There.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Muer is a good news reader, all right. He says
tonight fifteen times in the first five minutes of that broadcast, Tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight.
So that means he's not writing the script. Somebody's writing
it for him. I've never seen David Muhr do an
interview that went well, but maybe he will rise to
the occasion. The other one, Lindsay Davis is a liberal woman.
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There's no question about that. She comes at it from
a sensibility of race and gender. She'll probably be a
little feis there, but do I expect either of them
to push Kamala Harris or point out that she's evading.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
No.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
However, I do know that the CEO of Disney, which
owns ABC News, has issued instructions, not himself, through his minions,
that they bet or not show any overt bias against Trump.
And these are two individuals who are not going to
go against the power. So I don't expect any overt Byrans.
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I expect them to just accept what Tomala says. And
here and here's a good question for them if they're
listening to Clay Buck, which they should be. Tom Arison's
basic campaign now is we're gonna go, We're gonna start
a new direction. Why do you need a new direction?
You just call us that Joe Biden's the greatest president
(29:33):
since Lincoln. Why are we going in a new direction?
What isn't that again? Simple question? That's your whole campaign. Oh,
go in a new direction? Lo Hey, joy, We're gonna
have a lot of joy. What if by we's so great?
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I don't expect that to be asked or anything close to.
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Speaker 5 (32:16):
And welcome back into Clay and back debate night tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's gonna be huge, and we are diving into all
of the latest in terms of the numbers, but also
the analysis what is likely to be discussed tonight, where
the pressure points, the pain points may be for each
of these combatants on the stage of politics. And we'll
get some of your calls here in a second worth
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noting that the Michigan State Supreme Court has ruled and
RFK Junior will stay on the ballot there.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That is not good. So not good.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
If you want Trump to win, maybe it doesn't matter.
I hope it doesn't matter. That would be great, but
this is this is not the situation that you want RFK.
You have understand he has his own internal polling and
he's going to have a better sense of sense of
this than anybody. The reason he has been advocating for
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taking his name off the ballot even after the Trump
you know, apart from or in addition to the Trump endorsement,
is he knows that he's taking more Trump voters than
he is commal of voters. So staying on the ballot
in Michigan, you might say, well, people know that he's
endorsed Trump. Yeah, but if five thousand or ten thousand
people decide they're going to vote for RFK Junior or
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some kind of a protest, or they're just going to
do it anyway. That could be the difference in Michigan.
I don't I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because we don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter, maybe Trump
sweeps the the battleground states. But this was my concern,
and I know it wasn't It wasn't fun to be
the guy sent around saying, Hey, this vanity campaign. I
know it's all fun for everybody, but may actually some problems.
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This could be a problem.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I also think it's significant Buck because they tried to
tell us that RFK Junior's endorsement didn't matter at all.
We'll get what they do, not what they say. If
it didn't matter at all, why is the Secretary of
State of Michigan, a Democrat, fighting so hard to keep
RFK Junior's name on the ballot. Remember he said, hey,
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I want to pull my name off the ballot. I've
withdrawn from the race. I don't want anyone to vote
for me. And the Secretary of State of Michigan has
gone all the way to the Michigan Supreme court to
ensure that his name stays on the ballot. What are
they doing, not what they're saying. What they're doing suggests
that they know rfk's endorsement of Trump is a big
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deal and has a substantial impact, and so they're hoping
that they can keep him on the ballot because they
want people to vote for him instead of Trump, which
the data reflects will happen in Michigan. And to your point,
if you come down to five or ten thousand votes
and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Trump
won Michigan in twenty sixteen by eleven thousand votes. I
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think that was the final margin. Crew in New York
correct me on that if I'm wrong. I think in
twenty sixteen, I think Trump won Michigan by eleven thousand votes.
I don't think it's crazy at all to think that
eleven thousand people in Michigan would vote for RFK Junior
that might otherwise vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
We got a bunch of people who won a way
in with the question.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We asked women about Kamala Harris being the side chick
the mistress of Willie Brown when she was young, and
whether that can cancel out my theory some of the
antipathy towards Donald Trump and his character from female voters.
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Buck says, no, I think the answer may be yes,
Cindy and Champagne Illinois. Big win for your Ali and
I over the Kansas Jayhawks. I don't know if you
paid attention to that. Many people in Illinois did, Lily.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You can't. You can't miss that. But you're right, I
did not know that about her. So what you did
was bring to the forefront some information that changes. I mean,
I'm not thrilled about her anyway, but she's now on
the same level as as Trump, and I.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Don't like Trump. Were you voting for Trump? It's important.
Were you voting for Trump though anyway?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yes, I was as a matter of fact, and I
don't I don't know if I qualify this as a
suburban women. You guys have not defined that for me.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm glad you brought out disinformation and need to bring
out more of her dirt because you think so.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Here's here's my question for you, Cindy. To your point,
you were voting for Trump anyway, but you didn't know
about this. If you talk to other women, do you
think other women know about this, and do you agree
with me that some of them who may not like
Trump's morals or his character issues, might be aligned with
him on the issues itself. My theory is if they
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know Kamala is not a saint too and she has
her own past, it helps.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Trump objection leading the witness go ahead.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I agree absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I love you, Cindy.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Congratulations to the on their big win. Thank you for
calling in just great astute analysis. I have to say, Buck,
we have Carol in Ohio. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Carol?
Speaker 10 (37:31):
Well, I'd say that it doesn't matter. I think Bill
Clinton proved that there are people just loved him to death,
no matter what happened with Monica Lewinsky. And I don't
think they're going to care in a presidential election if
Kamala Harris slept with somebody thirty years ago, they're not
going to care. I think what's more important is that
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this whole convicted felon thing, and I think he needs
to counteract that, and that would be really easy, and
I think he needs to point that out tonight, say
look how many times she's going to say it, how
many times she says it in her stump speeches, and
let's talk about what's really happening. They've spent millions of
your hard earned tax dollars on bugus charges to come
after me, to remove me, so that they can get
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to you and control you. I think he has to
turn that around because I think more people throw that out.
I hear it all the time. Well, he's a convicted
selling I don't hear anything about his marriages. So I
think he needs to go after that. But I don't
think people really care. They care if the woman down
the street is chieving, but they don't care, you know,
or the guy down the street is chieving with some woman,
they don't care about it. In the presidential election, I.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Think Carolin Ohio is astute and on point, mister Clay,
So I disagree completely with Carol in Ohio Rebecca in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let's see if Rebecca has good sins or not. Rebecca,
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
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Speaker 11 (38:51):
Yes, I just wanted to give a married woman's perspective
on this. I think it goes actually beyond a moral issue,
and it goes to a trust in integrity issue. If
I can't trust that Kamala Harris is not going to
sleep with my husband. How can I trust that she's
going to have my and my family's best interests in
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mind as she's running the country.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But Rebecca, were you voting for Trump?
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, so But but Rebecca, do you think this really?
The question is are there women out there? And my
answer is yes, I think you question whether that's true
or not. Buck that are almost entirely voting based on
an emotional opinion of Trump, rooted in he's a cheater.
I don't like him, He's dishonest. And they have bought
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into the idea that Kamala Harris is the opposite of Trump,
when in reality distilled Joe Biden's term they're both just
a couple of alley cats, and that they got a
truth I've never met.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I've never met this, this amalgamation or this this construct
of the suburban woman who was open to voting for
Kamala and open to voting for Trump and cares about
morals but doesn't care about the policies, and now that
she knows that Kamala slept with some guy thirty years ago,
is like, ah, now.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Are you familiar with women?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Forever my my accountant, my my dentist, I mean everyone
I know is right wing. You've got to understand something, buddy,
like I don't. I don't deal with a lot of
the uh of the communists in a day to day sense,
So I might I might be missing something, but I've
never Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Clay, every woman who we've had called in so.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Far, and we love all of you. Thank you so
much for listening to the show. They're Trump voters. So
there's another data point.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
This is what That's what I'm saying. Of course they're Trump.
Why are they trumpleters or trumpeters?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Because they care about facts and family and policy, and
and you know, they have a sense of of their
own morality and integrity, and they they operate in the
world of the true, not the operator in the world
of the make believe this construct. What you're talking about
is someone who is open to voting for either and
then cares that Kama slept with somebody thirty years ago.
(41:08):
That's what we're not getting. I haven't got any of
those calls yet. And I'm not saying you're wrong, it
don't exist, but I think you're wrong. You like that's Pedrizio, baby.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but I think
you're clearly wrong. I will say I would acknowledge that
the number of women out there who are undecided voters
that didn't know that kamalas slept with Willie Brown and
are listening to this show is probably small, but.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
It was clear was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
I mean like this, and Trump is not exactly like
I just I don't understand, like who cares?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I don't think women. I don't think women ever forgive
side chicks. I don't think married women ever forgive mistresses.
I think they hate them with a passion. They see
them as home wreckers. And Kamala in this context, Look
if Kamala had gone on and married Willie Brown and
they had kids, I think some women would forgive her.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I am good at this. I gotten in her head,
and jug I should.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Have been a psychologist. I'm telling you, I'm in their
head right now. And there are women that are listening
to me right now that are like, how are you
so in my head?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I tell you. Grow up in New York City.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I know plenty of women who don't like the guy
that divorces the first wife for like the younger sexier,
you know, model so to speak, the next time around.
But you know what, we're a big country with big
boy ideas, and like we got other things to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I will say, in Trump's defense, he married and had
kids with those women. I think the porn star is
the bigger issue for him, which is why it's lingered
and why they focused on it. But my point is,
if they can tell you that Trump's sleeping with a
porn star allegedly by the way, allegedly, yeah, allegedly in
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two thousand and six or whatever year it was, and
they can make it a story for nine years, it
seems fair to make Kamala Harris sleeping with Willie Brown
while he was married. She was twenty nine, he was
sixty a story for four months. That seems fair to me. Kathy,
and since but we got all Ohio is riled up
about this story. If nobody else is Kathy? Sorry, CALLI
(43:26):
in Cincinnati, CALLI what do you think?
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Hih me there? Sadly, I have to say, I don't
think suburban housewives flash mom are gonna care. They are
still concerned about Trump's mean tweets and they are still
focused on that. And when I'm talking to these women.
I tried to drive home. I tried to talk about policy,
and even in Cincinnati, Ohio, they don't know what's going
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on in Springboro, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati with the
Haitian migrants and whatnot, so it's not on the news.
It's not fun of them. So they still just think
Trump is mean.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Thank you for the call, Cali. You know who just
wait in. Laura Travis via text, Buck is so wrong.
Laura never agrees with me, with me on anything, she says.
I'm gonna read my wife's text. I know at least
three women who have said out loud to me they
would never vote for Trump because they just don't trust
him and think he's kind of sleazy. If they know
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Kamala is also sleazy, it forces them to make a
decision on an actual issue rather than just voting emotionally.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
She may say it better than me. You disagreement is
so often a paragon of virtue. Her movie choices are
world class, and whenever she tells you that you are wrong, Clay,
she is spot on.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Which is basically all the time. She never agrees with
me on anything. So that's why I had to read
that text message. She's out driving right now. She keeps
Claymation in the cage, you know what I mean. She
doesn't let him get too crazy out there. But I'll
I just man, if it were recent stuff, I'd be
a little bit more willing to believe the line of
argument that is gonna matter in this election. I feel
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like I feel like this is on the list of
things that people are thinking about when they're casting their ballots.
I think the Kamala Willie Brown thing doesn't I don't
think it makes the top twenty five. It might not
make the top fift for most rational people. I think
that's true. But much of the opposition to Trump is
rooted in emotion, not logic, And so if you can
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point out something that is emotionally flawed with another emotional flaw,
it sometimes forces people to go back and reconsider it.
But by the way, we're only talking in theory about
like six hundred thousand people in three hundred and thirty
million that are still out there right now undecided about
(45:49):
how they're going to vote. That's kind of crazy in
and of itself, right, I Mean, we're talking about point
five percent of the population at most.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
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Well come back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Hope
all of you are having a fantastic Tuesday. I hope
that you are layering up, if necessary, on some caffeine,
be able to stay up. Tonight, nine pm Eastern on
the East Coast. Ten thirty will be the ending time
in theory, probably a little bit past that. We are
joined now by Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. I don't
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know if you have seen the clip of Eric Swalwell
going crazy talking about all the Trump kitten and duck memes.
They are hysterical. For those of you out there that
are not active on social media, many people have decided
to have fun with the kitten and duck allegations coming
out of Springfield, Ohio, with outrageous, outlandish, and frankly hysterical
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memes of Donald Trump saving kittens and ducks. Eric Swalwell
is very angry. But what in the world is actually
going on? Congressman, you represent this area just beside it
where all of this chaos has been unfurling associated with
immigrants overloading. Believe it's Springfield, Ohio. What is actually going on?
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What are you seeing in the community. What can you
tell us about the impact of in many ways unrestrained
immigration in your congressional district and nearby areas.
Speaker 12 (49:11):
Yeah, thanks for having me on and really and honor
to join you all. And look, I too have enjoyed
some of the humor that's been out there, and in particular,
as JD Vance is now has childless cat ladies are
part of the JD Vance fan club again, so we're
on track with the team that's going to save the kittens.
Speaker 6 (49:31):
But the reality is.
Speaker 12 (49:32):
On the ground. You know, Springfield's a great community of
about sixty thousand people, long time manufacturing community, a lot
like what you know Ohio has experienced with, you know,
quote the rust Belt for a time, you had great
factory jobs for a long time, and as the economy changed,
a lot of things got hollowed out and communities had
to change. Springfield has done a great job of attracting investment.
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They're growing nicely and for a long time they've had.
All of Western or Ohio has had the challenge. We
could grow faster if we could just get a strong workforce.
And you know, as you look at the immigrant population
that wants to work, they're attracted to places that have jobs,
and you know Springfield has that. Most of western Ohio
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has that, and so you could see why, you know,
people that are coming here, if they want to work,
they would come someplace like Springfield, Ohio. The challenge has
been the bite administration has had just an open border
process that's flooded our country with lots of people who
are illegals. They've abused the refugee process. And the challenge
in Springfield isn't it just that the initial refugee comes.
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It's that each person can bring through chain migration, like
six family members, and so that has a, you know,
be fruitful and multiply kind of effect at a rapid pace.
I mean, if a family is fruitful and multiplies, it
takes a generation to raise the kids. When you bring
in somebody into the country, even if they have the
most credible claim to refugee status that you could imagine.
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And if you can bring six times as many more
people in right away, it's easy to see how one
community gets overwhelmed. And that's what's going on on the
ground in Springfield. If you brought twenty thousand people from California,
it would overwhelm a community of sixty thousand people. And
the culture in California is a little different, safe to say,
the culture in Haiti is a whole lot different than
the culture in spring Ohio.
Speaker 5 (51:21):
So when you see these stories, congressmen and people are
concerned about this, it sounds like under there is an
understandable friction that could happen with such a massive change
in the area, or rather that this is what people
could could expect. Are you seeing that there's any help
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coming from either the state or the federal government to
assist with some of this. I mean, we're talking about
things like overcrowding and hospitals and schools and things like that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Sounds like the community is just left to bear the burden.
Speaker 12 (51:57):
Yeah, that's the real problem. Look, the federal government clearly
is being helpful. They're causing the problem to be worse,
frankly and very unsympathetic. They're not responsive even when local
law enforcement wants to raise issues for the people that
are illegal. Even in those cases, the federal government is
not responsive. But the challenge of in the state hasn't
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been incredibly helpful either. There are a lot of resources. Look,
some of this is driven by federal policy where every
refugee is getting six hundred to sixteen hundred dollars in
cash assistance for the Refugee Cash Assistance Program, and they're
automatically eligible for every means tested program that America has.
So you've got individual refugees who are newly arrived, let's say,
(52:39):
straight from Haiti, and they're getting more federal benefit than
you've got people that worked a lifetime and put money
into Social Security and Medicare, so they're eligible for every
kind of program that you could imagine. And there are
flaws at the federal level, but there are things at
the state level that schools are being told they need
to admit knows that appear to be twenty years old
(53:02):
as freshmen in high school. And you know that's causing problems.
You've got massive influx of people that can't speak English
and so no resources for translators. It's safe to say
we don't have a lot of local you know, native
speakers for Haiti in western Ohio, and so we need
(53:23):
resources from the federal and state government to be able
to do some of those things. And you know, look,
I used to represent that district. Under the new redistricting,
that's a different members of Congress, but I think the
whole delegation is united and saying, look, we recognize that
there are legitimate refugees and other places around the world,
we want to be a welcoming place for people that
(53:43):
come legally. But really what you're seeing is the limits
of even legal immigration, where you are very sympathetic, are
being tested here and a big part of it is
the chain migration problem.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
We're talking to Congressman Warren Davidson. The New York Times,
among others, has said that everything being said about Springfield,
Ohio is basically made up. We played yesterday many of
the viral clips from the town city council meeting of
people laying out what they are saying for people out
(54:15):
there who read The New York Times Congressman and say, oh,
this is all a made up story. I believe a
young kid was killed by a Haitian immigrant on his
way to the first day of school. That occurred. It's
happening in districts all over the place. But what would
you say to the New York Times is of the
world that have decided to parachute in on this story
(54:36):
and say this isn't true.
Speaker 12 (54:39):
Yeah, I mean they're not trustworthy sources. The controlled media
continues to cover for the Biden administration on every front.
Speaker 9 (54:46):
I mean they've continually lied. We know they're lying, they
know we know they're lying, and they keep lying. And
this is just another instance where they're whatever they need
to say to cover for the Biden Paris administration. They're
going to say, come on out under the ground and
talk to people, and you know, you'll find people in
the community that are fed up and don't want anybody
(55:06):
to come. Whether they're legal or not. But you also
find people that are like, yeah, I'm sympathetic. I understand
how bad of a place heit he is. Right now,
we want to welcome them. But let's not pretend, well,
you're not being overwhelmed here. We've got issues to deal
with and to say that all of these things are false,
that itself is clearly false, and so it's not rising
to this attention because it's some manufactured story. The reality is,
(55:29):
this is what people in the community are dealing with.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Congressman, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much for
making the time.
Speaker 12 (55:36):
Yeah, thank you guys for highlighting it.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
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Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us. It is
debate Day, nine pm Eastern, six pm on the West Coast,
Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris from Philadelphia, perhaps the only
debate the two of them will have all throughout the season.
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We are exactly eight weeks from election day today. That is,
if my math is right, fifty six days away. Many
of you will be able to vote in a month
or less, depending on what community you are in. It
is officially go time. We will dive into what we
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believe are the biggest and most important aspects of the debate.
Certainly we'll be breaking it all down for you tomorrow.
In earnest poles have begun to turn against Kamala Harris.
The analogy that I would make since football season is
he is Donald Trump, has the ball, He is winning.
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He can run out the clock by simply running off
tackle and putting together a couple of first downs. Will
see whether or not he is able to do so
again nine pm Eastern. I know almost all of you
will be watching to see what we get. And while
there's lots of discussions about what version of Trump we
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will get. To be fair, he was awful. I think
he acknowledges this in the first debate that he had
against Joe Biden. He was much better in the second debate.
He obviously knocked out Joe Biden on June twenty seventh,
in the first debate of this presidential cycle. We will
see how he does against Kamala Harris. But I do
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think Buck, we have to spend a little bit of
time to start off the show today just reiterating for
you how crazy far left wing Kamala Harris really is.
And they keep finding more and more receipts from her
failed twenty twenty presidential campaign, where everyone was competing to
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be the furthest left wing they could possibly be with frankly,
almost the exception of Joe Biden, everybody else was trying
to get to the left of Bernie Sanders because they
thought that was the pathway to end up being the nominee.
And as part of an ACLU I believe it was
a written survey see an end of their credit went
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back and tracked down these answers. Kamala Harris was asked
about whether or not she believed in sex change operations
paid for by taxpayers for illegal immigrants. It sounds like
mad lib crazy liberal perspective. And she was asked about
drug possession. She said yes on sex changes, and she
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said that you should be able to possess crack, fentanyl,
whatever drug you wanted. She was in favor of decriminalizing possession.
That really happened. Aaron Burnett, the host of the CNN
show on which this report was shared, even herself, seems
staggered by the implications and the fact that Kamala Harris
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did not really in her campaign have any explanation for
these insanely far left wing policies. I want to give
CNN credit something we don't say often on this show.
This is what it sounded like last night on Aaron Burnett.
As that was all laid out.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
On immigration, she made this open ended pledge to end
immigrant attention. She said she supported taxpayer funded gender transition
surgeries for detained migrants.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
She also said she's.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
A pair funded gender transition surgeries for detainment change Mike.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
She actually said she supported.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
she was asked this, and she said she also supported
it for federal prisoners now. She also pledged to slash
immigration detention by fifty percent, close all family and private facilities,
and decrease funding for ICE and then the.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
ICE detainers with local law enforcement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
She also buck said that she would end all criminal
penalties for having crack and finnel, among other things. This
is crazy town even for Democrats. What's your reaction here
when you see this coming out, not only coming out,
but CNN being the one to cover it.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Kamala Harris is a far left radical who would have
no chance of winning any nationwide election without the media
being willing to completely cover for her, live for her,
carry water for her, do everything that they think that
is possible, really to create an image of somebody that's
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just not based in reality. And when Kamala Harris has
been when she was asked about this very gently, I
might add by Dana Bash over at c ND recently.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Right, it wasn't a Dana bash she was doing the interview. Right,
They're all the same at CNN. It's all blends together.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Remember, she kept saying, my principles haven't changed, which I
thought was interesting because I don't think Kamala Harris actually
has any principles, at least not as a person in
public life. I think that she is a devotee of
power and of being around the powerful wielding power in
their name, and I think she's a vessel for the
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Democrat machine. I do not believe that she actually really
believes in anything. And the fact and the way you
know this is that she took positions, Clay, and this
is what's coming up in that ACLU questionnaire segment they
did on CNN. She took positions that nobody would ever
think would play well nationally, right. I mean, you couldn't
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think for a second that some of these things that
she was in now banning FRACKA mean, these are things
that somebody says if their plan when they say it
is to lie and said that I never said it,
or just changed their mind the moment they run up
against political resistance. This is why I have had a
dare I say it, a quiet and cool confidence about
Trump's future here ever since Kamala became the nominee, which
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always factored into my assessment of why Joe Biden had
I know, the debate disaster happened, but why Biden was
actually a better play, a safer play, in many ways
than Kamala Harris. Not only does she lack the political
skills we talked about that yesterday that you've had in
some other politicians, particularly some other Democrat politicians in recent cycles,
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she also is somebody who can't really claim to stand
for anything other than whatever works in the moment. And
I think that that lack of authenticity, coupled with the
lack of authenticity that she exudes when she's just talking
to people, right, I mean, she comes across as inauthentic,
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and her political program, you know, her platform, whatever you
want to call it, is also deeply anauthentic because she
doesn't really care, well, what works. What do you need
me to say? That's what Kamala will say. So I
think that this is tonight. You know, you're gonna see
a lot of dancing. Remember even Gavin Newsom when he
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debated Ron DeSantis, he did a lot of oh, bud,
you know, just I'm just gonna talk in circles here
and be handsome.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Didn't work.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
People saw it, and I think they'll see through Kamala
Harris tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
To be fair, Hannity was fact checking Gavin Newsom in
real time and calling out his lies, and I think
that really rattled Gavin Newsom. The facts weren't on his
side and they were shown to him. I do think
this really cuts through the noise.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If Trump says to Kamala Harris, in addition to wanting
to leave the border wide open, you believed that we
should be paying taxpayer American taxpayers should be paying for
sex change surgery for illegal immigrants, that is Banana Land crazy.
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And let me give you a line here, Buck. If
Trump wanted to take control of this debate early. This
came from an emailer and it's actually an incredible suggestion,
and I forwarded it to the Trump team. Buck, what
if Trump, in his opening response, said, I want to
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do something that's going to really stun everybody here today.
I want to thank Kamala Harris. I want to thank you,
Kamala for me being alive today, because if you hadn't
been such a disaster at the border, and I hadn't
turned my head to look at the graphic of all
of the illegal immigrants that you have allowed into this country,
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I would have been murdered by an assassin on July
thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania. The only reason I'm alive today
is because you did such a bad job at the
Border that I had to turn and look at that
graphic the exact moment that guy fired a bullet. I
think that it would be like a holy crap moment
right off the top.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know this.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So much of the tone of a debate is set
in the first five minutes, and a lot of people
tune in for the first five or ten minutes and
then they kind of get everything gets all the noise
kind of gets in your head and you can't keep
up with it all. This is an average viewer. I
think if he came out with a punchy line like that,
that ties her directly to the failures at the Border,
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sex change operations. Things like that. He sets the tone.
It's like hitting a big punch early in a boxing match.
And I think a lot of people would resonate. And
here's the other thing about these debates, and you know it,
and I think this was the Biden team what they
found out. Biden got knocked out on June twenty seventh,
but we kept watching the clips four weeks. It's not
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just what's said, it's what goes viral and what clips
echo through social media and solidify the opinion of what
was said. Because most people are going to watch all
ninety minutes. Everyone in America is going to see at
least one thirty or sixty second clip. What are those
distilled moments and how do they capture the zeitgists. It's
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not just the debate anymore, it's the echo of the
viral clips for weeks after. I think that we can
all expect that ABC is going to be favorable toward Kamala.
They can't make it too obvious because then that's counterproductive
for them. But I think that ABC will show us
a different a slightly different approach than what cen end did,
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even where they decided, for once, let's have a pretty neutral,
pretty neutral.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Monitor see and it end did a good job.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You know, there was nothing I would If there was
anything I found objectionable in the way Sin and moderated
that debate, I would have said it. But I didn't
see anything that was a problem. I thought all the
questions were fair.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
This is the thing.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It's possible to do that right. Yes, it's worth reminding.
You know, people say, oh, well they can't do you know,
everyone has a bias. I mean you can come close
enough in a debate. You know, referees and sports aren't perfect,
but like they can get the major calls.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Should note in fact, if the game's well officiated, you
don't even notice who called the game. That's what the
best debate is. You shouldn't have the debate moderator be
a storyline at all. They should fade into the background
and it should be about the people on the stage.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
And I do think that you'll see just the questions
will be more favorable to Kamala trying to get out
of the way maybe some of.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Her weaknesses or early on.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
But look, she's not a good orator, she's not a
good public speaker, she is not smart on policy. She
really has very little to play here except some emotional
appeal of being a woman, being a minority. You know,
Trump is a big bad man. And abortion. She's going
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to lean on abortion, every single abortion a lot. You know,
the single most important policy by far to the Democrat
Party is the ability to kill babies in the womb,
and and that is that'll be a part of it.
But I really do think that there's there's no way
she comes out of tonight looking great. I think her
team is just hoping that she can sort of keep
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things status quo. In terms of if I'm Kamala Harris
and I come out of tonight's debate without a clear
gain of any kind for Trump, that's a win.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's the best I see. I think she has. I
think she's losing, and I think she needs to win
or no debate.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I agree, but I'm saying she doesn't yourtation, your point,
so woe that the best she can hope for is
a draw. The best she can hope for his status
quo draw. Realistically in terms of public opinion and the
polling after this, Yeah, of course. I mean she'd love
to turn the momentum.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
She is losing and she could be behind two or
three points after this in a way where everyone.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Goes, oh, this is not looking good. Correct.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think the result of this one will not be
the knockout that we saw in June twenty seventh. I
believe both parties will turn and raise their gloves, and
the people who like Trump will say Trump one, and
the people who like headline Kamala one.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Clay Travis with a bold prediction, Kamala Harris will do
better than a senile dementia.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Riddle Joe Biden, I would, I mean, that would be
amazing to watch if Kamala somehow was worse than Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I don't know what she would.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, she might probably have to collapse like faint,
you know, when she gets asked about sex change operations
for migrants. I don't even know how she could hardly
be worse. But again, if I'm advising Trump, it is economy,
border crime, just perry an attack, and I will say,
don't follow her down the rabbit hole. Don't go down
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the rabbit hole with whatever argument she wants to make.
He did that a little bit with Biden, Remember when
they started arguing over how history was going to judge
their presidencies. And I'm like, no one ever says that
a Republican did a good job. Don't argue about what
historians think. Just kind of stay on the issues, and
if he can, he's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's a side note, Clay. It's one of the sad
things for me.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
So many contemporary historians, they're just they're all communists now.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It is scary and unfortunate the.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Historians now, so many of them, it seems like they
might as well be the gender studies professor team at
Wesleyan or something like. They're just so many left wing
historians and a good tell as always if they use BCE.
By the way, that's all you have to know.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
We're coming up on the first break. But there's a
world where I would have been a history professor. I
was a history major. I absolutely loved it. And if
you go back and look at popular historians, so many
of them truly love America. And it does seem like
many modern day historians really hate America.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And it's you.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Know, they have such power to tell the story of
America that it's sad to see the story of America
becomes so negative. History should be one of the more
objective humanities profession or humanity these endeavors, and unfortunately it's
it's like gender studies now in a lot of cases. Anyway,
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
We are joined by the what an on Bill? O'Reilly
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Speaker 5 (16:22):
He's got a new book out today confronting the President's
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Speaker 3 (16:31):
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Speaker 5 (16:34):
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great to have you back. We've got a debate tonight.
How are you seeing it as we get ready here
to watch these two intellectual combatants have at it on stage.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, the pressure's on Kamala Harris, but I don't believe
the Vice president is going to do anything different, So
I've got to our website. The strategy is, no matter
what the issue, Trump did it so open borders and
catastrophe stemming from that. It was Trump's immigration policies that
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did it. He doesn't want immigration reform, inflation. Trump lighted
the fuse that afghanis stand. It was Trump's policies misguided
for the Taliban that led to that. That's what Harris
is going to put out there, so people should expect it.
Now with Donald Trump, you don't know what he's going
to do, right, which is always the drama when Trump
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appears anywhere. If it were me and I wrote a
message of the day and a column entitled the Kamala Mystery,
if I were Donald Trump tonight, I would understand that
no corporate media type is ever going to challenge or
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define Kamala Harris. So this is my chance to do it,
and how you do it is this. So David m Are,
the anchor of ABC News, he asked the Trump a question, right,
and Trump has to be polite tonight. Number one. Polite
should have that tattooed onto his wrist. Polite because David,
(18:17):
I'll get to that at a moment. But I want
to tell the audience watching this evening that I'm very
uneasy standing here on the stage as an American, not
as somebody who's running for president, because I don't know
what has happened in the past three and a half years.
I don't know why the Biden Harris administration opened the border,
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leading to millions of foreign nationals, some of them dangerous,
coming into this country. I don't know. When I left
office that inflation was one point four percent and I
went to nine percent in a year. I don't know why.
So I hope you guys asked the Vice president those
questions because I'd like to know. Now back to you question, David,
(19:01):
you see what I mean. So he embarrasses and puts
the moderators on the spot. He gets his point across
that Tom Larrence doesn't define anything, and then he can
answer any questions they throw out. So I don't know
whether Donald Trump reads my stuff. I think he might,
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but if he does that, he'll win the election. If
he does that.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We just had a big discussion about who's actually up
for grabs here, and the data from twenty twenty reflects
that Trump didn't actually underperform massively among Black voters, Hispanic voters,
any of those groups. He actually lost a lot of
suburban women. And I think it's because they bought into
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the idea, and I think some of them are embarrassed,
but they bought into the idea that COVID was going
to kill everybody and that every school had to shut down,
and that Trump was uniquely un qualified to deal with COVID.
Then Joe Biden came in and he tried to mandate
COVID shots, and basically he flailed around for three and
a half years, and I think it's been an unmitigated disaster.
(20:11):
Do you buy into some of those suburban women are
still up to grabs up for grabs? If not, which
groups do you think are going to end up making
this decision to who wins the election? And how would
you suggest Trump should go after them.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I don't think that Trump should target any groups. I
think that he should basically speak to everybody as an individual,
one on one. I'm the former president. Here's what I
did for you. It's what I'm going to do a
few votes for me. I wouldn't target various groups. I
disagree a little bit with your analysis on women. I
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think that Donald Trump is a problem with American women
because they don't like his demeanor. He's mean, and women
take that much more personally than men. And I think
that's a fact. And so it's not so much that
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they objected his COVID policy or whatever. And now women,
the majority of American women do the grocery shopping for
the home. They got to know they're getting pounded. They
got to know that discretionary income is way off. So
it's a matter of Trump trying to reassure women that
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he's going to help them and their families if he's elected,
and he's got to do it in a way that's
not He don't have to be provocative doing that. You
don't say, Look, you remember the old Saturday Night Live skit, right, Jane,
you ignorant slut? Remember that dan Ackroyd you guys don't
remember that too young. Yeah, right, Well that Trump does
(22:02):
a variation of that every time he talks about aris.
You don't need to do that. You just have to say, look,
the woman doesn't have any problem solving skills and won't
even give an interview. And here's a kicker. I sent
the book to Trump Confronting the Prisons because Trump's a
friend of mine, and Trump's in the book, okay, And
(22:27):
I sent him the note. I said, look, you might
want to read this book because it's relevant to you
today because Kamala Harrison her campaign is doing exactly what
Warren Harding did in nineteen twenty, exactly the same thing.
She's not answering any questions about anything, and he believes
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she can win doing that, and Harding won, He beat
the Democrats because the country was set up with Woodrow Wilson.
It was all personal and Harding was a disaster. I
mean that it was so bad it was almost laughable.
And that's why the relevancy of my book to today
is important. But anyway, Trump needs to be a human
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being up there, not a caricature. No matter how she
tries to bait him. Just use the old Reagan line
to Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty. There you go again.
Just use it and everybody at home will go, yeah,
there she goes again. Listen, if it were you Clay
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or you Buck or me O'Reilly, and we were on
that stage against Kamala Harris, what do you think would happen?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
A visceration? She would be destroyed utterly, be a tough
knight for Kamala.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
There would. Because you do this for a living. I
do this for a living. We analyze what is actually
happening without crazy emotion. And that's what Trump has to do. Now.
He's been told that a million times. But whether he
can bring discipline to his presentation, I think he will.
(24:07):
He's got to know this is his shot, because he
should be ten points up.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
How are you feeling about where Trump is right now
in the momentum shift?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Bill?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
I mean the polls now, some of them are showing
Trump ahead a little, some of them are showing in
the Swing States basically a tie within the MARGI of error,
but better than Trump was doing in twenty twenty at
this point, better than Trump was doing in twenty sixteen
at this point when he won. Are you feeling confident,
or do you still have concerns that Trump's going to
have to turn on the after burners here to get
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it done.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I think it's a dead heat, and I think that
Donald Trump has to cut down on his rhetorical mistakes.
If he does that, he probably will eat it out
because I don't believe Kamala Harris has any game at all.
You want to do a sports metaphor, what does she got?
(25:07):
Tell me what she's got? Tell me one thing, just
one thing that's better now than it was four years
ago when Trump left office. Just give me one. But
that's the kind of stuff you've got to present to
the American people. You got to just get it down
to the basic level and stop with all this crazy
stuff about skin color and unmarried people and cats and dogs.
(25:30):
This is insane. You just say, hey, you're an American,
you're living your life. Is anything in your life better
now than it was when I was there? And he
answers no. All the polls show that. So I'm a
simple man. You guys know that. And it's a miracle
(25:51):
that a simple man like Bill O'Reilly can be the
best selling nonfiction author in the world. But simplicity can
go a long way.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's not a bad line to be able to drop. Congratulations.
I know you've got a new book coming out today.
What do you today? In fact, yes, and I'm sure
it will be a bestseller.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
As confronting the presidents on the day of the debate,
Clay no less almost like a not bad.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Time at all. All right, So.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You we talked about how CNN's moderators basically vanished on
June twenty seven to a large extent and allowed the
story to be Trump versus Biden, and obviously Biden's mental
and physical cognition revealed itself.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Do you think ABC's.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Moderators will do the same or tomorrow morning when everybody
is assessing and later tonight as everybody breaks down, do
you think the ABC moderators make themselves a part of
this debate or do they kind of fade into the
background as CNN did?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Excellent question, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
So.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
As I reported the day after the CNN debate that
sunk Biden, the moderators Pepper and Bash were told you
better be fair, your jobs on the line, So they
were scared to death and they were neutral. When Dana
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Bash interviewed Kamala Harris. She turned into poor performance because
she didn't follow up. He refused to she allowed evasions.
So tonight you got David Muir, not known for being
a very astude interviewer. Would you both agree with that?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yes, he's very handsome though, as play says, as Place.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Is incredibly handsome and the most popular ABC the News broadcast.
He's very good at reading glass, right, Yeah, he needs glass.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
So you guys know, I worked as a correspondent for
ABC News under Jennings Peter Jenners, and I knew Copple,
and I knew the whole boy, the whole network.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
There.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Muer is a good news reader, all right. He says
tonight fifteen times in the first five minutes of that broadcast, Tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight.
So that means he's not writing the script. Somebody's writing
it for him. I've never seen David Muhr do an
interview that went well, but maybe he will rise to
the occasion. The other one, Lindsay Davis is a liberal woman.
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There's no question about that. She comes at it from
a sensibility of race and gender. She'll probably be a
little feis there, but do I expect either of them
to push Kamala Harris or point out that she's evading.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
No.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
However, I do know that the CEO of Disney, which
owns ABC News, has issued instructions, not himself, through his minions,
that they bet or not show any overt bias against Trump.
And these are two individuals who are not going to
go against the power. So I don't expect any overt Byrans.
(29:12):
I expect them to just accept what Tomala says. And
here and here's a good question for them if they're
listening to Clay Buck, which they should be. Tom Arison's
basic campaign now is we're gonna go, We're gonna start
a new direction. Why do you need a new direction?
You just call us that Joe Biden's the greatest president
(29:33):
since Lincoln. Why are we going in a new direction?
What isn't that again? Simple question? That's your whole campaign. Oh,
go in a new direction? Lo Hey, joy, We're gonna
have a lot of joy. What if by we's so great?
Why are you doing a new direction? See, these are
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I don't expect that to be asked or anything close to.
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Speaker 5 (32:16):
And welcome back into Clay and back debate night tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's gonna be huge, and we are diving into all
of the latest in terms of the numbers, but also
the analysis what is likely to be discussed tonight, where
the pressure points, the pain points may be for each
of these combatants on the stage of politics. And we'll
get some of your calls here in a second worth
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noting that the Michigan State Supreme Court has ruled and
RFK Junior will stay on the ballot there.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That is not good. So not good.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
If you want Trump to win, maybe it doesn't matter.
I hope it doesn't matter. That would be great, but
this is this is not the situation that you want RFK.
You have understand he has his own internal polling and
he's going to have a better sense of sense of
this than anybody. The reason he has been advocating for
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taking his name off the ballot even after the Trump
you know, apart from or in addition to the Trump endorsement,
is he knows that he's taking more Trump voters than
he is commal of voters. So staying on the ballot
in Michigan, you might say, well, people know that he's
endorsed Trump. Yeah, but if five thousand or ten thousand
people decide they're going to vote for RFK Junior or
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some kind of a protest, or they're just going to
do it anyway. That could be the difference in Michigan.
I don't I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because we don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter, maybe Trump
sweeps the the battleground states. But this was my concern,
and I know it wasn't It wasn't fun to be
the guy sent around saying, Hey, this vanity campaign. I
know it's all fun for everybody, but may actually some problems.
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This could be a problem.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I also think it's significant Buck because they tried to
tell us that RFK Junior's endorsement didn't matter at all.
We'll get what they do, not what they say. If
it didn't matter at all, why is the Secretary of
State of Michigan, a Democrat, fighting so hard to keep
RFK Junior's name on the ballot. Remember he said, hey,
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I want to pull my name off the ballot. I've
withdrawn from the race. I don't want anyone to vote
for me. And the Secretary of State of Michigan has
gone all the way to the Michigan Supreme court to
ensure that his name stays on the ballot. What are
they doing, not what they're saying. What they're doing suggests
that they know rfk's endorsement of Trump is a big
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deal and has a substantial impact, and so they're hoping
that they can keep him on the ballot because they
want people to vote for him instead of Trump, which
the data reflects will happen in Michigan. And to your point,
if you come down to five or ten thousand votes
and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Trump
won Michigan in twenty sixteen by eleven thousand votes. I
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think that was the final margin. Crew in New York
correct me on that if I'm wrong. I think in
twenty sixteen, I think Trump won Michigan by eleven thousand votes.
I don't think it's crazy at all to think that
eleven thousand people in Michigan would vote for RFK Junior
that might otherwise vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
We got a bunch of people who won a way
in with the question.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We asked women about Kamala Harris being the side chick
the mistress of Willie Brown when she was young, and
whether that can cancel out my theory some of the
antipathy towards Donald Trump and his character from female voters.
(35:48):
Buck says, no, I think the answer may be yes,
Cindy and Champagne Illinois. Big win for your Ali and
I over the Kansas Jayhawks. I don't know if you
paid attention to that. Many people in Illinois did, Lily.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You can't. You can't miss that. But you're right, I
did not know that about her. So what you did
was bring to the forefront some information that changes. I mean,
I'm not thrilled about her anyway, but she's now on
the same level as as Trump, and I.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Don't like Trump. Were you voting for Trump? It's important.
Were you voting for Trump though anyway?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yes, I was as a matter of fact, and I
don't I don't know if I qualify this as a
suburban women. You guys have not defined that for me.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I'm glad you brought out disinformation and need to bring
out more of her dirt because you think so.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Here's here's my question for you, Cindy. To your point,
you were voting for Trump anyway, but you didn't know
about this. If you talk to other women, do you
think other women know about this, and do you agree
with me that some of them who may not like
Trump's morals or his character issues, might be aligned with
him on the issues itself. My theory is if they
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know Kamala is not a saint too and she has
her own past, it helps.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Trump objection leading the witness go ahead.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I agree absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I love you, Cindy.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Congratulations to the on their big win. Thank you for
calling in just great astute analysis. I have to say, Buck,
we have Carol in Ohio. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Carol?
Speaker 10 (37:31):
Well, I'd say that it doesn't matter. I think Bill
Clinton proved that there are people just loved him to death,
no matter what happened with Monica Lewinsky. And I don't
think they're going to care in a presidential election if
Kamala Harris slept with somebody thirty years ago, they're not
going to care. I think what's more important is that
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this whole convicted felon thing, and I think he needs
to counteract that, and that would be really easy, and
I think he needs to point that out tonight, say
look how many times she's going to say it, how
many times she says it in her stump speeches, and
let's talk about what's really happening. They've spent millions of
your hard earned tax dollars on bugus charges to come
after me, to remove me, so that they can get
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to you and control you. I think he has to
turn that around because I think more people throw that out.
I hear it all the time. Well, he's a convicted
selling I don't hear anything about his marriages. So I
think he needs to go after that. But I don't
think people really care. They care if the woman down
the street is chieving, but they don't care, you know,
or the guy down the street is chieving with some woman,
they don't care about it. In the presidential election, I.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Think Carolin Ohio is astute and on point, mister Clay,
So I disagree completely with Carol in Ohio Rebecca in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let's see if Rebecca has good sins or not. Rebecca,
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
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Speaker 11 (38:51):
Yes, I just wanted to give a married woman's perspective
on this. I think it goes actually beyond a moral issue,
and it goes to a trust in integrity issue. If
I can't trust that Kamala Harris is not going to
sleep with my husband. How can I trust that she's
going to have my and my family's best interests in
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mind as she's running the country.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But Rebecca, were you voting for Trump?
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, so But but Rebecca, do you think this really?
The question is are there women out there? And my
answer is yes, I think you question whether that's true
or not. Buck that are almost entirely voting based on
an emotional opinion of Trump, rooted in he's a cheater.
I don't like him, He's dishonest. And they have bought
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into the idea that Kamala Harris is the opposite of Trump,
when in reality distilled Joe Biden's term they're both just
a couple of alley cats, and that they got a
truth I've never met.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I've never met this, this amalgamation or this this construct
of the suburban woman who was open to voting for
Kamala and open to voting for Trump and cares about
morals but doesn't care about the policies, and now that
she knows that Kamala slept with some guy thirty years ago,
is like, ah, now.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Are you familiar with women?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Forever my my accountant, my my dentist, I mean everyone
I know is right wing. You've got to understand something, buddy,
like I don't. I don't deal with a lot of
the uh of the communists in a day to day sense,
So I might I might be missing something, but I've
never Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Clay, every woman who we've had called in so.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Far, and we love all of you. Thank you so
much for listening to the show. They're Trump voters. So
there's another data point.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
This is what That's what I'm saying. Of course they're Trump.
Why are they trumpleters or trumpeters?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Because they care about facts and family and policy, and
and you know, they have a sense of of their
own morality and integrity, and they they operate in the
world of the true, not the operator in the world
of the make believe this construct. What you're talking about
is someone who is open to voting for either and
then cares that Kama slept with somebody thirty years ago.
(41:08):
That's what we're not getting. I haven't got any of
those calls yet. And I'm not saying you're wrong, it
don't exist, but I think you're wrong. You like that's Pedrizio, baby.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but I think
you're clearly wrong. I will say I would acknowledge that
the number of women out there who are undecided voters
that didn't know that kamalas slept with Willie Brown and
are listening to this show is probably small, but.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
It was clear was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
I mean like this, and Trump is not exactly like
I just I don't understand, like who cares?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I don't think women. I don't think women ever forgive
side chicks. I don't think married women ever forgive mistresses.
I think they hate them with a passion. They see
them as home wreckers. And Kamala in this context, Look
if Kamala had gone on and married Willie Brown and
they had kids, I think some women would forgive her.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I am good at this. I gotten in her head,
and jug I should.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Have been a psychologist. I'm telling you, I'm in their
head right now. And there are women that are listening
to me right now that are like, how are you
so in my head?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I tell you. Grow up in New York City.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I know plenty of women who don't like the guy
that divorces the first wife for like the younger sexier,
you know, model so to speak, the next time around.
But you know what, we're a big country with big
boy ideas, and like we got other things to think
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I will say, in Trump's defense, he married and had
kids with those women. I think the porn star is
the bigger issue for him, which is why it's lingered
and why they focused on it. But my point is,
if they can tell you that Trump's sleeping with a
porn star allegedly by the way, allegedly, yeah, allegedly in
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two thousand and six or whatever year it was, and
they can make it a story for nine years, it
seems fair to make Kamala Harris sleeping with Willie Brown
while he was married. She was twenty nine, he was
sixty a story for four months. That seems fair to me. Kathy,
and since but we got all Ohio is riled up
about this story. If nobody else is Kathy? Sorry, CALLI
(43:26):
in Cincinnati, CALLI what do you think?
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Hih me there? Sadly, I have to say, I don't
think suburban housewives flash mom are gonna care. They are
still concerned about Trump's mean tweets and they are still
focused on that. And when I'm talking to these women.
I tried to drive home. I tried to talk about policy,
and even in Cincinnati, Ohio, they don't know what's going
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on in Springboro, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati with the
Haitian migrants and whatnot, so it's not on the news.
It's not fun of them. So they still just think
Trump is mean.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Thank you for the call, Cali. You know who just
wait in. Laura Travis via text, Buck is so wrong.
Laura never agrees with me, with me on anything, she says.
I'm gonna read my wife's text. I know at least
three women who have said out loud to me they
would never vote for Trump because they just don't trust
him and think he's kind of sleazy. If they know
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Kamala is also sleazy, it forces them to make a
decision on an actual issue rather than just voting emotionally.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
She may say it better than me. You disagreement is
so often a paragon of virtue. Her movie choices are
world class, and whenever she tells you that you are wrong, Clay,
she is spot on.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Which is basically all the time. She never agrees with
me on anything. So that's why I had to read
that text message. She's out driving right now. She keeps
Claymation in the cage, you know what I mean. She
doesn't let him get too crazy out there. But I'll
I just man, if it were recent stuff, I'd be
a little bit more willing to believe the line of
argument that is gonna matter in this election. I feel
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like I feel like this is on the list of
things that people are thinking about when they're casting their ballots.
I think the Kamala Willie Brown thing doesn't I don't
think it makes the top twenty five. It might not
make the top fift for most rational people. I think
that's true. But much of the opposition to Trump is
rooted in emotion, not logic, And so if you can
(45:29):
point out something that is emotionally flawed with another emotional flaw,
it sometimes forces people to go back and reconsider it.
But by the way, we're only talking in theory about
like six hundred thousand people in three hundred and thirty
million that are still out there right now undecided about
(45:49):
how they're going to vote. That's kind of crazy in
and of itself, right, I Mean, we're talking about point
five percent of the population at most.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
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ones where you tell me that I'm writing Clay is wrong,
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Well come back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Hope
all of you are having a fantastic Tuesday. I hope
that you are layering up, if necessary, on some caffeine,
be able to stay up. Tonight, nine pm Eastern on
the East Coast. Ten thirty will be the ending time
in theory, probably a little bit past that. We are
joined now by Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. I don't
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know if you have seen the clip of Eric Swalwell
going crazy talking about all the Trump kitten and duck memes.
They are hysterical. For those of you out there that
are not active on social media, many people have decided
to have fun with the kitten and duck allegations coming
out of Springfield, Ohio, with outrageous, outlandish, and frankly hysterical
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memes of Donald Trump saving kittens and ducks. Eric Swalwell
is very angry. But what in the world is actually
going on? Congressman, you represent this area just beside it
where all of this chaos has been unfurling associated with
immigrants overloading. Believe it's Springfield, Ohio. What is actually going on?
(49:00):
What are you seeing in the community. What can you
tell us about the impact of in many ways unrestrained
immigration in your congressional district and nearby areas.
Speaker 12 (49:11):
Yeah, thanks for having me on and really and honor
to join you all. And look, I too have enjoyed
some of the humor that's been out there, and in particular,
as JD Vance is now has childless cat ladies are
part of the JD Vance fan club again, so we're
on track with the team that's going to save the kittens.
Speaker 6 (49:31):
But the reality is.
Speaker 12 (49:32):
On the ground. You know, Springfield's a great community of
about sixty thousand people, long time manufacturing community, a lot
like what you know Ohio has experienced with, you know,
quote the rust Belt for a time, you had great
factory jobs for a long time, and as the economy changed,
a lot of things got hollowed out and communities had
to change. Springfield has done a great job of attracting investment.
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They're growing nicely and for a long time they've had.
All of Western or Ohio has had the challenge. We
could grow faster if we could just get a strong workforce.
And you know, as you look at the immigrant population
that wants to work, they're attracted to places that have jobs,
and you know Springfield has that. Most of western Ohio
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has that, and so you could see why, you know,
people that are coming here, if they want to work,
they would come someplace like Springfield, Ohio. The challenge has
been the bite administration has had just an open border
process that's flooded our country with lots of people who
are illegals. They've abused the refugee process. And the challenge
in Springfield isn't it just that the initial refugee comes.
(50:37):
It's that each person can bring through chain migration, like
six family members, and so that has a, you know,
be fruitful and multiply kind of effect at a rapid pace.
I mean, if a family is fruitful and multiplies, it
takes a generation to raise the kids. When you bring
in somebody into the country, even if they have the
most credible claim to refugee status that you could imagine.
(51:00):
And if you can bring six times as many more
people in right away, it's easy to see how one
community gets overwhelmed. And that's what's going on on the
ground in Springfield. If you brought twenty thousand people from California,
it would overwhelm a community of sixty thousand people. And
the culture in California is a little different, safe to say,
the culture in Haiti is a whole lot different than
the culture in spring Ohio.
Speaker 5 (51:21):
So when you see these stories, congressmen and people are
concerned about this, it sounds like under there is an
understandable friction that could happen with such a massive change
in the area, or rather that this is what people
could could expect. Are you seeing that there's any help
(51:43):
coming from either the state or the federal government to
assist with some of this. I mean, we're talking about
things like overcrowding and hospitals and schools and things like that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Sounds like the community is just left to bear the burden.
Speaker 12 (51:57):
Yeah, that's the real problem. Look, the federal government clearly
is being helpful. They're causing the problem to be worse,
frankly and very unsympathetic. They're not responsive even when local
law enforcement wants to raise issues for the people that
are illegal. Even in those cases, the federal government is
not responsive. But the challenge of in the state hasn't
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been incredibly helpful either. There are a lot of resources. Look,
some of this is driven by federal policy where every
refugee is getting six hundred to sixteen hundred dollars in
cash assistance for the Refugee Cash Assistance Program, and they're
automatically eligible for every means tested program that America has.
So you've got individual refugees who are newly arrived, let's say,
(52:39):
straight from Haiti, and they're getting more federal benefit than
you've got people that worked a lifetime and put money
into Social Security and Medicare, so they're eligible for every
kind of program that you could imagine. And there are
flaws at the federal level, but there are things at
the state level that schools are being told they need
to admit knows that appear to be twenty years old
(53:02):
as freshmen in high school. And you know that's causing problems.
You've got massive influx of people that can't speak English
and so no resources for translators. It's safe to say
we don't have a lot of local you know, native
speakers for Haiti in western Ohio, and so we need
(53:23):
resources from the federal and state government to be able
to do some of those things. And you know, look,
I used to represent that district. Under the new redistricting,
that's a different members of Congress, but I think the
whole delegation is united and saying, look, we recognize that
there are legitimate refugees and other places around the world,
we want to be a welcoming place for people that
(53:43):
come legally. But really what you're seeing is the limits
of even legal immigration, where you are very sympathetic, are
being tested here and a big part of it is
the chain migration problem.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
We're talking to Congressman Warren Davidson. The New York Times,
among others, has said that everything being said about Springfield,
Ohio is basically made up. We played yesterday many of
the viral clips from the town city council meeting of
people laying out what they are saying for people out
(54:15):
there who read The New York Times Congressman and say, oh,
this is all a made up story. I believe a
young kid was killed by a Haitian immigrant on his
way to the first day of school. That occurred. It's
happening in districts all over the place. But what would
you say to the New York Times is of the
world that have decided to parachute in on this story
(54:36):
and say this isn't true.
Speaker 12 (54:39):
Yeah, I mean they're not trustworthy sources. The controlled media
continues to cover for the Biden administration on every front.
Speaker 9 (54:46):
I mean they've continually lied. We know they're lying, they
know we know they're lying, and they keep lying. And
this is just another instance where they're whatever they need
to say to cover for the Biden Paris administration. They're
going to say, come on out under the ground and
talk to people, and you know, you'll find people in
the community that are fed up and don't want anybody
(55:06):
to come. Whether they're legal or not. But you also
find people that are like, yeah, I'm sympathetic. I understand
how bad of a place heit he is. Right now,
we want to welcome them. But let's not pretend, well,
you're not being overwhelmed here. We've got issues to deal
with and to say that all of these things are false,
that itself is clearly false, and so it's not rising
to this attention because it's some manufactured story. The reality is,
(55:29):
this is what people in the community are dealing with.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Congressman, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much for
making the time.
Speaker 12 (55:36):
Yeah, thank you guys for highlighting it.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
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