Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 17 2024

It's Trump's fault? Dr. Marty Makary on following the science. Kamala didn't debate. Sen. Tommy Tuberville on protecting Trump.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show gets going right now. We've got a
lot to talk to you about today, including the aftermath
of the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Democrats are

(00:20):
going all in on the violence. Is Trump's fault, another
person tried to kill Trump? And the Democrats the narrative
from top to bottom all over their left wing media ecosystem,
whether it's the morning shows or the podcast they do,
or what you see on X. It's Trump's fault. It's

(00:41):
Trump's skirt was too short, so to speak. It's Trump's
fault that someone tried to take another shot at him.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
It is heinous.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
We will discuss some of those details with you shortly,
and how it affects the election that's now forty eight days.
I think it's forty eight days away.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Exactly forty nine right, seven weeks today? Am I right?
Seven weeks from today is election days.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's coming at breakneck pace here and so we will
dive into that, including the latest polls everything else. Also, Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
P.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Diddy slash puff Daddy Combs has finally been arrested. There
had been some indicators for a while that he was
facing possible sex trafficking charges, and now I believe the
charges have come out. Racketeering money lawn not money long sorry, racketeering,
sex trafficking, why or two other things thrown in there.

(01:39):
Very serious stuff, the kind of stuff that can get
you locked away for a very long time. Those like
Clay and me, well, I mean I kind of grew
up in the nineties. Clay really more like the sixties
or the seventies. But those like Clay and me who
grew up in the nineties. P Diddy was for a
while or puff Daddy was one of the biggest things
in music. I don't know how many of you are

(02:01):
that familiar with his music, but I think he's worth
a billion dollars now, right, I think something like that.
I think he's close to that level. And so his
arrest is not something going to spend a lot of
time on. But I just think it's noteworthy they finally
made the arrest. It's been coming for a while. Another story, Clay,
just breaking news here right as we go on air,

(02:24):
hundreds of Hesbela fighters in Lebanon have been wounded or killed.
As their pagers speak of the nineties as their pagers
have exploded, exploded simultaneously in what seems to be in
apparent I mean, they're never going to admit it, right,

(02:47):
we know Israeli policy, but it's probably a masad. I mean,
this is what everyone's assuming right now online. I don't
know who else is going to be blowing up hundreds
of pagers on Hesbela fighters at one time. Twenty eight
hundred is the latest number that they simultaneously blew up,
twenty eight hundred pagers. And if people out there are
like why they're using the pagers to communicate, so they

(03:08):
theoretically can't be tracked via cell phone seeing this, so
this is how they go about trying might be saying,
like why are they using pagers? Am I crazy buck
to think? When I saw this story, I'm wondering, could
they do the same thing with iPhones?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, I will have to see to me there it's
I would assume that they were able to somehow get
into the production process here and.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Put and jury. It's one of the most brilliant counter
intel counter terrorism processes of all. I don't I don't
think that you.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Can like send a message, an electronic message to again,
I don't know, okay, I mean, but I don't think
you could send a message to a pager and just
have the battery go into some meltdown and blow. I mean,
people are dead, they killed people this. I mean there
are hundreds who they are reporting are in critical condition,
meaning they may or may not make it. You know,
they all taken these shots at the hip. By the way,

(04:01):
the hip. For those of you who remember from the
war zones, you do not want to take this kind
of a I mean, it's it's a sort of like
being hit with a bullet. I know it's shrapnel, but
you do not want to take shrapnel at high speed
through the hip. It's a lot of bleeding, it's incredibly painful,
it's very difficult to treat. So, yeah, this is a
this is a pretty stunning operation and it just happened

(04:24):
before we came on the air place as twenty eight
hundred are are are wounded by this, hundreds are maybe
going to die. It depends on you know, their probably
how it goes for them in the hospital. Point here
being this is a gloves or off moment when it
comes to counter terrorism from again, the assumption is they'll
they'll never confirm it because of Israeli policy. So to

(04:46):
be clear, anyone who's like, well we have to wait,
Israel's going to say we don't comment on this kind
of stuff. So you know, you can say I believe
it's Israel, you can say I don't believe it's Israel.
Most people who follow national security are assuming that it's
in Israel operation against Hesbelah. You know, Clay, They they
they're known they've been able to use cell phone signals
for missile track you know, to have a missile scent basically,

(05:09):
so your cell phone can become almost like the heat
signature for a heat seeking missile, except it's as your
cell signal. These railies are very technically savvy and are
able to do things like that. So this is going
low tech to avoid the high text surveillance and targeting
that can be used against cell phones. And the Israelis
figured this one out too. If any of you have

(05:30):
seen the wire, it's very similar concept of Clay. You've
obviously seen the wire.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
You love the wire.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, they go to they go to pagers because they
don't want people talking on phones, and they know that
they can't they can't have active listening set up on
all the different phones in the Baltimore projects, same basic
idea with Hesbela. But this is a this is a
like wow operation. I mean, I've never heard of this before. However,

(05:55):
they pull this off, we'll find out more, I'm sure,
and the days ahead the details of it. I wanted
to turn our attention, Clay, unless there's anything else that's
being and pressing on your mind into how they've really decided.
Going back to the Trump second attempt at assassination, I
think they've stopped using the word apparent now, so that's good.
We can all agree that a guy set up with

(06:16):
a rifle to kill Trump is an assassination attempt, right, Like,
we don't have to sit around and parse this any further.
He's been charged, he's being held. Ron DeSantis is step
forward as governor Florida has said it's going to be
a Florida investigation of this, because I did you see
the press conference play this morning?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I did not, but I saw the tweets about the
press conference, which I mean, he's the only person I've
seen talking about the direct conflict of the FBI conducting
investigations into tried to kill Trump while putting Trump trying
to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life.
It's in an untenable conflict. I mean, it's why I
said right after the first assassination attempt that all charges

(06:57):
should be dropped against Trump because they can't conduct the investigation.
But good for him for actually talking about it.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, and he is going to have the state of
Florida because he says the highest crime here is attempted murder,
which is obviously obviously true. So he's going to have
the state of Florida do a full, full investigation of
this and has assigned it to the top investigative authorities
in the state, in my home state. So that is

(07:22):
moving along. But Clay, there's so little time here that
I think the media is even more clumsy about this
than they would normally be. They've just got to shut
this down and create a new narrative right away. We
talked about it yesterday. I mean they tried to memory
hole the first one quickly. This one they're not even pretending.

(07:44):
I mean they're trying to smother this story with a
pillow right in front of everybody. They just don't care.
And the way they're doing it, and we saw the
hints of this over the weekend. This is Nora O'Donnell
over at CBS, again the sort of top gold standard
legacy media outlets. Here she is saying that Trump is
responsible for the accusations against residents of Springfield, Ohio, which

(08:07):
has led to bomb threats against them. So that's the
violence to be worried about. Play one.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric, but
the former president's own words seem to be increasing the
threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio. That's where a
false and ugly accusation against Haitians, thousands of whom our
legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Clay, the switch here is just stunning, isn't it. Yeah,
someone wanted to kill Trump again, but he said something
about Haitians, and from overseas someone called in a hoax
bomb threat, and that's Trump's fault.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
This is important. And I read the New York Times
in the Washington Post every day, so a lot of
you don't have to, and I still read the print.
Here is the front page print New York Times article
about the Trump second assassination attempt. The headline is the
anger that defines and threaten Trump's the anger that defines

(09:10):
and threatens Trump. Buck, Listen to these first two paragraphs.
This is the open if you'd only read the New
York Times. You consider yourself to be an educated citizen,
and you only read the New York Times, listen to this.
Within days of former President Donald Trump vilifying immigrants on
national television with false stories about Haitian migrants eating pet

(09:32):
dogs and cats, in an Ohio town, someone began threatening
to blow up school, city hall and other public buildings,
forcing evacuations and prompting a wave of fear. That is
the lead paragraph of a story that is ostensibly about
Donald Trump's second assassination. You have to go to the

(09:53):
second paragraph, Buck to read this. Days later authority said,
a man who desc described himself online is a disaffected
former Trump supporter made his way with a semi automatic
rifle to former President's Florida's golf course, evidently looking to
take a shot. Okay, they start by what is a falsehood.

(10:16):
We'll play the Mike DeWine clip for you, saying all
thirty three bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio that have been
blamed on Trump and Vance actually originated from overseas actors
who are trying to influence our election, in my opinion,
and make Trump advance look bad. But think about this book.
They described this would be shooter as a disaffected former

(10:40):
Trump supporter. I read the entire newspaper this morning. No
mention in the New York Times of the fact that
this guy had donated nineteen different times to Democrats, No
mention of the fact that he specifically cited democracy as
being on the ballot responding to Trump, No mention of

(11:00):
him saying that, to my knowledge anywhere that I read
that he had a Harris a Biden Harris bumper sticker
on his truck. If you just read the New York Times,
you would not know that that was a made up
story about the thirty three bomb threats, and you might think, Oh,
this is just a Trump supporter who's mad at Trump

(11:23):
that is trying to kill him. That is the storyline
that they have all agreed to. And there are lots
of intelligent people that don't leave their media silos. It's
why I read the New York Times. I want to
know what they're saying. There's describing this guy as a
crazy former Trump supporter and trying to put this on Trump.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
There's no shame, right, I mean, that's the thing. If
understand part of this process of even just supporting Kamala Harris,
Now it doesn't whatever they've said before, whatever the old
guidelines were, whatever integrity they were supposed to try to uphold,
it's all thrown out the window. You're seeing. The only
principle of the Democrat media and the Democrat Party is

(12:09):
how do we get power?

Speaker 4 (12:10):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
And if that means that they have to look at
the American people in the eye and say manifestly crazy
things McLay what you just described as the position, this
is lunatic stuff. Okay, this is up there with like,
I don't know, maybe the guy who shot at Trump
really likes Trump, Like what is wrong with people? Well,
they have to at least throw confusion into the mix.

(12:34):
I'm gonna say this, and it's something that's been on
my mind this whole time. You know, on the one hand,
we say is in this you know, historically just astonishing
and really terrifying that the country is teetering on the
brink of a presidential assassination for the second time, or
was teetering on the brink, But we're also not talking
about what an incompetent Kamala Harris is and how the

(12:54):
Biden administration has been a total flop and Kamala is
a part of it, and she doesn't do any interview,
and you know what I mean, We're sitting here saying,
look at the insane stuff that they're saying about the
Trump assassination attempt, and that takes us away from what
may be the even more potent politically line of attack
or a lone of discussion, which is I mean, Kamala

(13:17):
Harris is the worst presidential candidate in my lifetime. Honestly,
maybe Dukakis, but you've got to go back a long
ways for somebody who is just so unimpressive and so
incapable of being effective really in any respect.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's why they're hiding her. And we'll come back and
we'll place. I think it's important for us to take
you behind the left wing wall. This is how people
end up voting for Kamala. There are a lot of
people in silos. Whatever you think, we expose you to
what the left is saying. Is there anybody that does
that in an honest way that speaks to the left.

(13:54):
I saw can we get the audio of also, by
the way of Howard Stern's screaming that he doesn't want
anybody who is a Trump supporter to listen to his
show anymore. I actually have the exact opposite take. I
wish Kamala supporters would listen to this show. I really do,
because I think it would force them to at least
consider some of the opinions that they have. But I

(14:18):
do think it's interesting that Stern was on his show
screaming yesterday, the day after Trump was nearly assassinated again,
that he didn't want a single Trump supporter to be
listening to his show.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, man, I don't know. I never liked stern show anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
It didn't like the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I'm happy to see that he's showing everybody what
a neurotic lunatic he is. You know, he could count
as hundreds of millions all day, but to turn on
half your audience just I don't get. I can't imagine
you know, doing that after the relationship.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I mean, argue with me. Here, wouldn't you love if
we could wave a magic wand and we had a
million Kamala voters in a battleground state. That we're going
to listen to this pro for the next forty eight
forty nine days. Wouldn't you love to have them listening
to this program? I mean, I would welcome them. I think.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think that there are a lot of people who
if they were forced to listen to us three hours
a day, they would they would have to abandon some
of their Democrat beliefs. We have some of them listening
to us. Yes, we have people who have been I
would love to have them. Yeah, no, I know, but
just that's what I'm saying. I mean, just sort of
spit in the face of half of your audience, as
Howard Stern has done it. Just it just shows, I mean,
you know, the guy's lost more than a step, whatever

(15:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:05):
Welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Our friend, doctor Marty McCarey is with us now Johns
Hopkins University Medical Center, and a book that he's written
is out today, Blind Spots, When Medicine gets it Wrong
and what it means for our health. It is already
a number two bestseller in America on Amazon. Congrats for
that one, doctor McCay. Great to have you on the

(17:27):
program once again.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Good to be with you guys. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Let's just dive right into it. I want to give
you the floor, doc. I mean, we saw it during COVID.
Not only were people going along in groupthink, but they
remain steadfast in their wrong think as their group think
fell apart when the data and evidence came in. And
it feels like there's been no self reflection within medical circles.
But you would know much better than us.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
So what are you seeing?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Look, I have not seen any humility for any one
of the many mistakes during COVID, But the book I
have doesn't really talk much about COVID because people are
sick of it and it's kind of tribal. But COVID
was a little peak into how a broader medical establishment
works with groupthink and blinders on. If you look at
the track record of healthcare over the last fifty years
in America, it's been a failure. It's been a total failure. Sure,

(18:16):
we're better at doing certain operations and emergency care, but
diabetes now has affected one in five children. Half of
kids today are overweight or obese. Autism goes up fourteen
percent every year for the last twenty three consecutive years,
and in my field of pancreatic cancer, cancer rates have
doubled in the last two decades. So who is stopping

(18:38):
to say, hey, what's going on here? We have a
poisoned food supply, we have these highly engineered chemicals, we
add pesticides, and nobody is talking about these root causes
in healthcare.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
We're talking to doctor Martin McCarey. You were so right
about everything having to do with COVID. So for people
out there who are interested in potentially reading this book,
I would incur just to do it, because you've been
willing to speak out and challenge conventional orthodoxy, and that
brings me to this question. Scientific American, which is a
magazine that I believe has existed for basically one hundred

(19:11):
and eighty years, nearly a two hundred year old publication,
in twenty twenty decided they had to endorse a presidential
candidate for the first time in their history. They endorsed
Donald Trump. Now again in twenty twenty four. Sorry, they
endorsed Joe Biden. Now again. In twenty twenty four, they
are endorsing Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. What does it

(19:32):
do to science to you for it to have become
so political that a magazine which theoretically only exists to
cover science would feel compelled to have a favored presidential candidate, Well, Clay.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
It exposes them for who they are, that are political
activists at the top of modern medicine. Look, most doctors
and health professionals are amazing people. They come to the
field out of a sense of compassion and wanting to
help people. But a small group of doctors at the
top are making all the decisions and they've decided to
get political. New England Journal of Medicine the same thing

(20:08):
they were staunchly a pit partisan for two hundred and
eight years, and just the last presidential election decided to
endorse Biden with the rationale that if we could only
get Donald Trump to wear a cloth mask a little
more frequently, then we could end the pandemic. That's what
they thought.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's stunning. We're talking to doctor Martin McCarey blind spots
when medicine gets it wrong, of what it means for
our health. I mean, Doc, I'm wondering in the book,
do you go into some areas where medicine has historically
gotten it so very wrong and where the consensus just
fell flat on its face. But I know you could
go back to what was it John Snow in eighteen

(20:47):
seventies London, wasn't it doctor Snow? And figuring out where
typhus outbreaks were. There's that great book, The Ghost Map.
But I mean there's a lot of examples right through
even much more recent examples of institutional medicine saying this
has to be right, and then we find out it's
actually not.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, Buck, So the look, there's an illusion of consensus
today around so many health recommendations that the medical establishment
has perfectly backwards. They demonized natural fat for sixty years,
igniting the refined carbohydrate added sugar addiction that led to
the obesity epidemic. They got opioids are non addictive wrong

(21:24):
for thirty years. They got peanut allergay prevention wrong for
fifteen years. They just recently corrected that they get so
many of these big recommendations wrong when they don't use
good science. People need to know the truth about gut
health and these giant blind spots that we don't talk
about in modern medicine, but are central to health and longevity,

(21:44):
in the health of our nation's children. And that's why
I wrote this book.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Give me a couple of things, that is, writing this book,
you found that you think Americans should be doing for
either themselves or their kids that are not particularly massive
in deetail. Tell right, I mean, there's some things everybody
should be doing. You should be walking more, you should
be working out more. Right, But in terms of health,
what two or three pieces of advice that aren't overwhelming

(22:10):
would you give our audience right now that you think
could make a difference in how they feel and their
livelihoods and also their longevity.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
We have to take care of our gut health. The
millions of bacteria that line are and testing are integral
to digestion, training, the immune system, and even involved in mood.
So studies are showing taking antibiotics you don't need are
making us sick. Unnecessary sea sections change that microbiome. And
if you think pesticides are effective in killing pests, guess

(22:40):
what they're doing to your gut bacteria. They're doing damage
as well, and it's causing a chronic inflammation. The bodies
reacting to all these chemicals like seed oils that are
not natural as they sound. They're derivatives and their chemicals,
and so the body does not react with an acute
inflammatory response. It has a low grade response and it

(23:02):
makes people feel sick. And most of our modern illnesses,
most chronic diseases, and many cancers are caused by inflammation.
So don't cook with corn oil and vegetable oil and
soybent oil canola thinking they're say they're natural. Cook with
avocado oil, extra virgin olive oil, and other healthy oils DOCA.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
There's this realization that I think became pretty widespread in
the last maybe ten years, that people go through medical
school four years and the residency and it's all this
really time intensive, impressive knowledge, memorization, etc. That comes with it.
But I think i've heard that standard MD program there's

(23:45):
like a day or maybe a week that even deals
with nutrition. I mean, you're laying out how much the
food that we eat affects in the most real and
important ways psychological health, physical health. Are they getting better
about that in med school because it feels like if
they's in it there, when are these doctors going to
catch up on it?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Now they're getting worse, And you're right, we're turning these bright,
creative young kids into robots with a reflex. We tell
them to memorize all this useless stuff they don't have
to know on demand. They have to also memorize medications,
so they learn just how to diagnose and treat, and
no one's talking about the root causes of illnesses, and
the nutrition part is basically absent. I was just talking

(24:23):
to a medical student from a school in the US
and he was telling me he got two hours of
nutrition training in his medical school. And when we talked
about what they were what they taught him, it was
the old broken food pyramid nonsense from the government. The
government has spread a lot of misinformation on nutrition and food.
So it would have been better probably for him to
have zero time studying nutrition given what they were teaching them.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Doctor Marty McCarey with us right now. The book which
is skyrocketing by the way up bestseller lists, is out today,
that Blindspot which Blind Spots. Yes, I'm looking at it's
the number twenty si overall bestseller in all of America
on Amazon literally at this moment, so many people are
buying it. That's an incredible debut for you on Amazon, Doc,

(25:08):
So congrats. I want to ask you this though, and
you and I have talked about this some, but Buck
and I are both nerds when it comes to history.
We love history. The study of science is overwhelmingly filled
throughout all of history with people who have challenged conventional
authority and ended up right, maybe one hundred years down

(25:29):
the line, maybe a couple one hundred years. Is it
really science at all? For so many people out there
to be saying only trust the consensus, never challenge anything.
Is that the antithesis of science itself? And doesn't that
reflect a particularly stultifying idea that is ahistorical in nature?

(25:54):
Because you're not looking back, I mean look, several hundred
years ago, the most brilliant doctors out there, when you
got sick, would have said, hey, the way we got
to treat this. Make sure that we take as much
blood out of your body as we possibly can. It's
not just that oftentimes people are wrong, it's that they're
actually doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
You know, people have raw memories of what they just
saw our government do. A government reamed through an emergency
approval of a novel vaccine for young, healthy kids. They
fired the two vaccine experts that the FDA who objected
to its approval. They then forced it and required it
on many people, and then they silenced the doctors who

(26:36):
expressed their concerns. That's the most dangerous thing a government
can do. But it turns out that whole dynamic with
Anthony Fauci and people who had different opinions being suppressed.
That is the story of many of the modern medicine
health recommendations. Hormone replacement therapy for postmenopausal women is amazing.
Women live longer, feel better, It prevents Alzheimer's. All of

(26:59):
these benefits are overwhelming. But there's an NIH doctor twenty
two years ago who announced that it caused breast cancer,
even though his own data never supported it. So sadly,
to this day, fifty million women have been denied this
incredible therapy at the time in menopause, and so people
need to know the truth. Eighty percent of doctors still
believe that dogma, that hormone therapy because of breast cancer,

(27:21):
because it was an NIH guy and an NIH guy
doing a study with Harvard and Stanford doctors must be correct, right.
That's the power of group think, and that's what we
have to challenge.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Doctor McCarey wondering, And I know this is a big topic,
but someone told me recently, a friend of mine said,
do you know how many vaccines are on the CDC
website or Cleveland Clinic for example. I'm on their website
right now looking as I talk to you or on
what's the vaccine schedule? And I said, I don't know,

(27:52):
like five or ten? And I think the number that
I was given was something like like forty or fifty
seventy two. There you go, seventy two. I mean we
got hepb rotavirus dip theory, heemophilis nimacccle inactivated polio rotavirus
DT eight. I mean, I just go all seventy two
and right here in front of me that you know,

(28:13):
I grew up thinking, oh my gosh, vaccines have sort
of saved so many millions and millions of lives, and
I know there are very, very good vaccines. It's a
huge advance, But seventy two seems like a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well, a couple of them are given together, so it's
not seventy two different sticks. But does a child need
a hepatitis B vaccine within an hour of being born?
Is that a nice way to welcome a human to
the world. Stick them with a hepatitis B vaccine? It's
a sexually acquired infection. What are we doing giving it
to newborns. It's not like, you know, hey, we've captured

(28:46):
the aliens, so we got to vaccinate them while we
have them in our hospital walls, so we need You
can't challenge they're sacred cows. You cannot challenge any vaccine
in medicine because the oligarchs have said it's a belief system.
You either believe in them or you don't. So if
you raise a couple questions about some they have a

(29:07):
way of railroading folks. But now we can talk around them.
Now we've got podcasts and social media and books and
many other things out there, and we need to challenge
these deeply held assumptions. Maybe we need to treat more
diabetes with cooking classes than just throwing insulin at everybody.
Maybe we need to talk about school lunch programs, not
just putting every overweight kid on ozepic. Maybe we need

(29:28):
to talk about environmental exposures that cost cancer, not just
the chemo to treat it. They have such blinders on
and if they would have one tenth of the enthusiasm
they have for vaccines for addressing our poisoned food supply,
we'd have a much healthier country.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
We're talking to doctor Martin McCarey. His book surging up
bestseller list. Encourage you to check it out. And like
I said, it's all the way to number nine twenty
six in the nation blind spots. I bet we can
make that almost number one by the time he finishes
this interview. You were just talking about the getting all
the vaccine shots and everything else. Doc, When you look

(30:04):
at the COVID shot right now, would you encourage anyone
to be getting that shot for their kids or themselves
at this point, or do you think everybody's already had it?
There is truly zero benefit at this point.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Look, we were told the vaccine is what was going
to beat the pandemic and get us out of the pandemic.
You know what got us out of the pandemic was
natural immunity. So call me a little old fashion. I
want to see a proper randomized clinical trial before recommending
any novel medication to anybody. And that's going to be
my position with all medications.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Thanks Doc, drive that book all the way blind spots
up to number one. We'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Thanks so much. Guys.

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Speaker 1 (31:47):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Third Hour kicks
off now, and I I feel compelled Clay to bring
something into the discussion here that got left on the
cutting room floor yesterday because we obviously had an attempted
assassination of President Trump. On Sunday, Kamala Harris did an interview.

(32:11):
You see this, Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh yeah, I told you about it on Friday. When
on Friday evening.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was Friday evening and all, and so we haven't
had a chance to go over some of this. But
if you're wondering this is all related what we talked
about in the first hour. The immediate shift in the
conversation from yeah, yeah, some guy set up with a
rifle with a scope on it where Trump was going
to be and maybe was trying to assassinate him. But
you know, it's Trump's rhetoric that's causing this. And have

(32:39):
you heard what he said about the Haitian migrants. And
they're just all in on this. They don't care how
gross it looks, they don't care how obvious their propaganda
may be. I think one of the reasons for this
is Kamala is a horrible candidate.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
She is now.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I know she was able to memorize lines at the debate,
and some people were very impressed by that, but those
were all prepared speeches.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's what that was. It was the.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Equivalent of reading off of a prompter, except she had
to memorize it in advance. So give her credit for that.
She can memorize things. I'm sure she'd be great in
the school play whatever. Trump unfortunately didn't really get her
out of the prepared speeches. But fine, put that, it
doesn't matter. I think if you look at it now,

(33:25):
Trump kind of won that debate just based on what's
happened afterwards, what the polling has showed. So there's that,
and now we see why they're hiding Kamala Harris from everybody,
why they're going to these extreme lengths normally for a
presidential candidate. It's how do I get as many people
as possible to look at my face, listen to my words?

(33:48):
How do I enter the conversation in every household in
America as often as possible. That's really a big part
of what modern elections have turned into. It's a little
bit like American idol form. Well, Harris, it's how do
I get the media to tell everybody to vote Democrat?
Vote Harris, and I don't have to do anything, and
you get a sens as to why here she is.

(34:09):
I want you to listen closely.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
This was on Friday.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
We didn't get a chance play this for you because
it came out after the show, and yesterday we did
all the post assassination attempt analysis. It's on Friday. It's
cut twenty six. Toma's big problem is she's part of
the vice president of a failed Biden administration, and we
haven't really gotten any sense as to how is she
going to be different than Biden? She tells us she'll

(34:32):
be better than Trump, But would she be better than Biden?
Or how would she be different or anything like that.
This is how she answers listen to this.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
I wonder if there are one or two spots, policy areas,
or approaches where you would say I'm a different person.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
Well, and obviously not Joe Biden, And you know, I
offer a new generation of leadership, and so for example,
thinking about developing and creating an opportunity economy where it's
a about investing in areas that really need a lot
of work, and maybe focusing on again the aspirations and

(35:08):
the dreams, but also just recognizing that at this moment
in time, some of the stuff we could take for
granted years ago, we can't take for granted anymore.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Clay, what the heck does that mean? Does anybody know
what she just said? Some of the things we could
take for granted we can't take for granted, unburdened by
what has been a future that is the same but
different than the past.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Like what is she saying?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And I think it's so important to remember she's running
for a job basically that she already has and she
can't tell anyone why she should have that job going forward.
The one that stood out to me, and look, this
was an awful interview's eleven minutes. Okay, she did an
eleven minute interview with a local Philadelphia news reporter, and

(35:52):
I had them roll this over because Monday, I imagine
we would have talked about it a lot, but somebody
tried to kill Trump. But she is asked about what
does she want to do to bring down prices? We
have this cut twenty seven. Uh, she's asked directly, Okay,
prices are up. What is your plan in specific detail

(36:15):
to bring down prices? I think this is the number
one question that most voters have in America. It's cut
twenty seven. Listen to the gobblygook response that Kamala provides.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
When we talk about bringing down prices and making life
more affordable for people, What are one or two specific
things you have in mind for that.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a middle
class kid. My mother raised my sister and me. She
worked very hard. She was able to finally save up
enough money to buy our first house when I was
a teenager. I grew up in a community of hardworking people,
you know, construction workers and nurses and teachers, and I

(36:56):
try to explain to some people who may not have
had the same experience. You know, a lot of people
will relate to this. And I grew up in a
neighborhood of folks who are very proud of their lawn.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Okay, Buck Clay, she's a I'm trying not to curse.
She's a flippin' moron. Okay has memorized answers that she
just distributes that don't even have anything to do with
the question.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
She's asked that this is the key for anyone who's
like Kamwao did well in the debate. She didn't debate,
She had prepared speeches that she gave. She ignored the
moderator's questions and knew the moderators wouldn't follow up, so
she was able to get away with it. But it

(37:40):
was essentially written. Okay, she was just blabbering on about
and this retreat into when I was a middle class
kid has nothing to do with anything. Nobody cares. But
you can tell she's going back like an actress who's
trying to remember line line trying to remember where is
she in the monologue? Right, She's going back to what

(38:01):
she is prepared to say the same because when she
doesn't have something prepared, it's what we heard before, which
was just I mean, I don't say it's nonsense like
I disagree with it. I say it's nonsense as in
it is nonsensic, cull. It does not hold together in
any logic or rational way. It's just words coming out
of her mouth.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Can you imagine Buck being this bad at an eleven
minute interview? I mean, we do interviews all the time.
We're great. We have five hundred affiliates. We thank you
so much, pleas like, we're great. Yeah, we are great.
We're great to have fortunate to have so many we
are great. I mean, I'm not humble, but but we're

(38:42):
fortunate to have five hundred affiliates out there. All right,
So we get asked to do lots of interviews. You've
got a book coming out next year. One morning, Ali
can tell me. I think I did like twenty five
consecutive radio station interviews, all about ten or eleven minutes each.
No idea what questions were coming. You just sit there

(39:03):
and you answer questions I can't imagine being this bad
at answering questions and having had the job a vice
president for three and a half years. Fuck the questions
you're getting, how do you lower prices? A? I mean,
this is not rocket It's not like she got asked
who the president of Albania is?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
It's not quiz bowl, right.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
But also her campaign's first major economic policy that they
officially unveiled, yes, was price controls correct, which is I mean,
this is like month one econ one oh one high
school level, not even college level economics. Price controls are

(39:45):
a failure. It will not work when you're talking about
groceries with one percent margins. It is I mean, the
fact that people look at you. You really get to
the point now where you know, they voted for dementia
patient who was clearly in declined, that didn't care, and
now they're going to be voting for somebody who didn't
win a primary, who they all thought was terrible before

(40:06):
and they don't care. You know, you start to think, like,
how different is it from just if they wrote generic
Democrat on the ballot and try to convince everybody just
just vote, just vote for the generic Democrat. We'll figure
out who the president's going to be after the election.
Let's just keep the seat warm for a Democrat. And
I think that that's effectively the campaign that you are

(40:27):
seeing rolled out right now. It's just what kind of
machinery do they have to bring to bear to get
enough people to vote, not Trump, and for a Democrat.
Kamalhis has no vision, She is no understanding of any
of this stuff. She has been actually really a tool
of the machine and not even running the Democrat machine.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Her whole career. Well, and this is why if you're
Vladimir Putin, or if you're Chairman Ze, or if you
are Kim Jong un, you're running Iran, you're the Ayatola,
you're anybody involved in Hezbollah, Palestinian Authority, Gaza universe, you
want Kamala Harris to win because she's a moron. And

(41:08):
morons have no confidence in their own vision and so
are going to follow whatever the sheep inside of the
Secretary of State's office or the deep State tell them
to do. And this is why Trump was such a
wild card for them and why many of them didn't
like him, because Trump understand whatever else you think about Trump,

(41:29):
Trump understands leverage and negotiation, and he became a president
who was willing to put pressure through leverage and negotiation
on foreign adversaries, and they were afraid of what he
might do. I've never heard a good Democrat response buck
for if Trump was such a stooge of Putin, why

(41:50):
didn't Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was president. I've never
heard anybody be able to explain that, if Trump was
such a week leader, why did hes Bola not attack? Sorry,
why did Hamas and Hezboy, which we're dealing with right
now not attack Israel like they did on October seventh
while Trump was in office. There isn't a good response

(42:12):
because the answer is they feared Trump. They were afraid
of what he might do to them.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
My concern about a Kamma administration is that it doesn't
matter how inept and how lacking in capability and vision
she is, because as we've seen with Biden, I mean,
no one really thinks Biden is the president right now
in any meaningful way.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
We all get that.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's not like Biden's calling together meetings of his staff
and saying, guys, we really got to push this policy.
And this has been the case for a long time.
I'm not just saying now in the final months of
his presidency, Biden hasn't been running the show for a while.
We've all talked about it. We've all known there are advisors,
heads of agencies, political operatives from the Democrat apparatus who

(43:01):
are making clay all the key decisions, pushing forward all
the agenda items, setting the schedule for the executive branch right,
and Kamala would really be more of that, And if anything,
I think she'd be even more compliant, you know, she'd
be more willing to go with whatever the Democrat apparatus says.
You know, Joe Biden still, I think because of vanity

(43:23):
likes to hold on to the oh, I'm like middle
class Joe and riding that you chew to work and
all that stuff. I think Kamala Harris would be exactly
what we've seen along, which is she'll go. She is
a rubber stamp for the most left wing agenda imaginable
from the Democrat Party. And if anyone says, well, that's
not fair, that's not true. Look at all the things
that she said so he believed in before she was

(43:44):
trying to fool everybody to be president. The thing that
makes me so angry about this that I just find
it's insulting. It is truly insulting to the American people,
who are not just Democrat voters. Democrat voters they don't
care about anything else. Kamala Harris, her abandoning of her
previous positions will all be abandoned once again as she

(44:06):
takes office. So she's going to double back and go
to the far left stuff that she's currently telling everybody,
or rather having surrogates tell everybody in the media, she's
not really for that. Do I think Kamala a president
Kamala Harris Clay would give a speech where she says
that we should we should have a reparations committee to
really look at this nationally?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Absolutely? I do.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Do I think Kamala Harris, taking big money from California
environmental wackos, would push the most radical executive order based
climate agenda pot Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
I do you know.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I would bet on it with anybody who would want
to bet against me. I think she would go far
left on all this stuff. And the whole premise of
her candidacy is lying to you about that, right, that's
everything is just a lie about Oh and I was
a middle class kid.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
She was like that.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
She had like some big struggle. She was the daughter
of two university professors.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
She lived in the richest neighborhood in all of Canada.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
They weren't, you know, working in the coal mines or
a steel mill or something.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Like.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Everybody was okay, like plenty of money, like nice things
to do.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, but they had really good lawns. Buck. That's the
important thing to know about the neighborhood that she grew
up in. She doesn't care at all about how to
reduce prices, but people really care about their lawns. And
she's a moron, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But I don't think it matters, is what I'm saying
to you. I don't think it matters. Unfortunately, because they're
hiding her enough that not enough people will see it.
And for Democrats, by the way, I think smart Democrats
know that Kamala is dumb and they don't care at
all because she is the she's like the puppet president, right,
it's whatever the you know, the the axel rods and

(45:41):
the you know, the.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Well I mean, I mean, this is the point. We
have a president. Now, do you think Joe Biden's doing anything.
I mean, someone stopped talking about it. But he's not
the president in any meaningful way.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And there is nothing, There is no one who is
running around this White House like, oh, guys, guys, Biden's
calling a meeting on a policy initiative. You know about
what's going on here. Biden is taking nap number three
at the beach right now, and I mean number three today.
That's who is the president of the United States. We
can all see it. Look, I mean, and yet, and yet,

(46:16):
when I go back home for Thanksgiving to New York City, Clay,
I'll be in a place where eight to one they're
going to vote Kamala over Trump based on the registration
at least eight to one registration advantage.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's insane. It's because they pick the team and it
doesn't matter who the head of the team is, they're
going to support him.

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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Senator Tobby Tubberville of the Great State
of Alabama. Going to dive into a bunch of stories
with him, But I want to start. Senator, you guys
in just a couple of hours, I believe, are going
to have a press conference about the latest assassination attempt

(48:04):
on President Trump. I saw where Joe Biden said that
they did not have enough Secret Service agents to be
able to protect him. I can't believe in our six
trillion dollar budget that there isn't the dollars there to
be able to protect Trump from somebody trying to kill him.
What was your reaction to this second assassination attempt and

(48:25):
what do you guys expect to be saying in a
couple of hours on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Well, first of all, Clay, enough of the excuses. We're
at defcon won and once is too many announced. It's
happened twice, and there's no sense of urgency here in
the heel. Everybody's kind of going going live as usual.
They don't understand that President Trump works fourteen eighteen hours
a day, never sleeps. That's why he did it when
he was president. Also, he's going to go touch people.

(48:52):
He's gonna do two or three rallies a day. He's
going to do interviews, He's going to be out consistently.
He's not going to work a six to eight hour
like Kamala Harris or Joe Biden and they go to
the beach. He is a guy that loves this country,
and I think they're trying to keep him in the
basement and not give him the things that he needs.
But we're asking for more help. They're out of Secret

(49:14):
Service people. They say it takes three years to train somebody.
So the water underneath the bridge for that one. But hey,
Navy Seals Rangers, DHS, we need more people. We need
it immediately because it's going to happen again. We've got
mental illness all over this country, and with all these
gootball democrats out there holler and fascist and Hitler, it's

(49:34):
coming again. We got to protect the president.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Senator Tubberville appreciates you being with us. Are you getting
a sense from the various security agencies here that are
involved that there is a willingness to beef up security?
Do more, add more resources. I mean, basically is DHS,
which falls under obviously the executive Branch and therefore the

(49:58):
Biden White House. Are they doing or willing to do
all that is necessary to ensure the security of President
Trump going forward? Or are you sensing there still for
some reason, any kind of bureaucratic slow down or resistance.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Yeah, excuses, that's all. We're getting. Excuses. And haven't talked
to President Trump in the last couple of days, but
I will. But this is not his job. This is
our job. This is our job as Republicans. We stand
up for our nominee, we stand up for the former
president and his family. But the problem we have here
is it's just a sense of urgency. There's nobody really concerned. Hey,

(50:36):
you know, if he shouldn't go out and play golf
or he doesn't need to do all these rallies, he
needs to stay at home. I think they're trying to
keep him in the basement. But I heard Merrick Garland
today and what a joke Key is. And all the
three letter agencies FBI, CIA, and the DJ they're a joke.
So they're not going to help. The only one I'll
feel good about would be the military, because most of

(50:58):
the military people are still on the side, especially the
people in special operations. So I wish we would get
some of those people to help and be you know,
be rotating around because these people get tired of President
Trump never gives out. He goes and goes and goes.
So we need special people to do this protection. But
we can't wait on the Democrats, nor can we wait
on some of these Republicans that just say, hey, you

(51:19):
know it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Report out there that President Trump is going to go
to the Georgia Alabama game next weekend in your home
state of Alabama. I'm wondering if you've heard about that
second as an Auburn guy, how in the world can
you feel going to Georgia Alabama. I mean, that's like
the two biggest Auburn rivals on the planet going head

(51:43):
to head. What's your take on that? Do you think
he's going? Do you think you'll be there?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Well, I'm going to talk to him last week and
he's going. That's as of last week before the second
assassination attempt. I just don't know the problems that occur.
I knew I know when he went. I was there
with him at the LSU Alabama game a few years
ago when he was president, and.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
That's one of the best football games I've ever seen.
Coach and that stadium, Bryan Denny Stadium went crazy for Trump.
That was Joe Burrow against TU What was that twenty nineteen.
I think, Sir and I would imagine that reception he
would get for Georgia Alabama next weekend would be every
bit as loud, if not louder, than the one he got.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Then I agree, I'm going and you know I go
to some of the Alabama games anyway. Now I'm a senator,
so I try to represent everybody. But you know, we'd
love for President Trump to come, but we want to
keep him safe. Everything that I've heard, it's still owned,
but you know it's up and there, but it was.

(52:47):
I think that'd be a great ball game. I was
a little surprised last week with Georgia. Tough it was
for them at Kentucky, but they better play a whole
lot better, you know, against Alabama, they're getting better.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Senator of Troubleville, with us now and sent under, we're
hoping very much and only that there's a Trump win
in this election. First off, obviously, his security has to
get elevated and be absolutely world class. I think people
had thought, maybe before all this had happened, that that's
what he had been afforded, But clearly there are massive
gaps and shortcomings in what has been assigned to him.

(53:21):
But let's assume that he does get to election day, okay,
wins the election. Having the Senate in Republican hands also
very important. How are you seeing that right now? And
also how are you seeing the state of Georgia, which
Democrats are insisting is still very much in play.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, I think it's still close in Georgia, but I
think they got a better handle on it. We won't
have all the COVID, you know, voting about ballot mail ballot,
you know, two three weeks in advance. COVID would run
up the Democrats alec when it comes to working the
angles on an election. But I think it'll be better
this time the Senate. I've been traveling all of the
country in the last couple of months, working out with

(54:03):
different candidates. I think we're in pretty good shape. I'm
looking between fifty one and fifty three seats that will
win in the Senate, hopefully maybe even more than that.
But we've got some good races going on. Spending a
lot of money, but we've got some real good candidates,
and then President Trump too on the ballots. Really gonna
help a lot of these people, especially guys like Tim
Sheehey from Montana going against the guy that's been up

(54:25):
for forever, John Tester, who says he's a modern Democrat,
but he votes with Joe Biden every time they vote,
and last time I look, they're not motyrs, they're far
left progressives.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Senator, When you actually break down the election, is it
as staggering to you that people are going to show
up and vote for Kamala as it is to both
bucking me When we sit around and look at this,
it feels like we're being sold a bill of goods.
There's numbers coming out of Pennsylvania that they're not getting

(54:59):
as many absent t ballot mail in request on the
Democrat side as there was in the past. It feels
like a lot of this enthusiasm for Kamala is just fake.
Do you do you feel that way too?

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Well, at the end of the day, they've done nothing
but live for three and a half years. I've been
appalled at what they've done. Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden to
our country, tend me and illegal immigrants. Violent crime up
thirty seven percent, rape by forty two percent, robbery up
sixty three percent, drugs everywhere, gas prices hitting the route.
Military has been destroyed from within. All the three letter

(55:34):
agencies are so corrupt we don't know who to trust.
And then uh, then you throw on top of that
all the foreign relation problems. Guys, we are in so
much trouble with the thirty six tree in debt. Uh.
President Trump, you know, we all hope he gets elected,
but my god, he has got a handful of trying
to get this country back straight. It's over with it.

(55:55):
If Kamala Harris wins the country, as you and I
have grown up in and have seen the freedoms and
the things that are We've had the opportunities, it's all
over with. It will be a lot of strain on
the country and the taxpayers going forward. The taxes will
hit the roof to pay for all these nonsensical things
that all these Democrats want to do.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
By the way, last question for you. Did you see
where that moron Tim Wall said that Democrats had taken
back football fans from Republicans because he was an assistant
coach in high school back in the day. This is
one of the craziest arguments I've ever seen. You just
mentioned you're going to be at Georgia baym I hope
to see you down there. I'll plan on being there too.

(56:38):
I'll tell you this, there ain't gonna be a lot
of Kamala Harris voters in any college football game that
I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
That's fall Jim Waltz. Where did this guy come from?
I mean, he's a joke, an absolute joke. He can't
tell the truth. And of all people for him for
her to pick, she could have picked somebody that would
give her a much better chance. But this guy is
not going to bring one vote to her because he
doesn't stand up for the country. You know, he looks

(57:05):
more like a He's more of a Chinese fan than
he is an American fan. Yeah, and I hate to
say he was even an assistant coach at one time
because he doesn't represent the values our country represent when
it comes to coaching kids.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Amen, Senator Tuverville. I'll see you next week, hopefully at
that Georgia Bama game, and have a good press conference
here in a couple hours. All right, see you, That
is Senator and coach Tommy Tuberville. I feel good about
football fans not voting for Kama La Buck, very confident
about that. But I got to tell you twenty twenty
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