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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tulsea was a Democrat as recently as twenty twenty running
for the nomination there former Democrat congressman from Hawaii, and
she is now with us. TULSI, welcome to the party.
Like I said, some of us have been Republicans for
a relatively short period of time. That would be like
you and me others. Buck knew he was a Republican
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when he was like six years old in New York City.
But true, what was the uh, what was the final straw?
So to speak for you in making the move and
feeling comfortable announcing yourself as a Republican last night?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, I really have to give credit to President
Trump because the way that he has transformed the Republican
Party gives me hope for the future of our country.
He's brought back the Republican Party to its founding and
court principles. A lot of people forget that the Republican
Party was quite literally founded to end slavery to racism.
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It was the party of the working people, the factory workers,
and the farmers.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It was the.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Party that stood up for the American people, and the
party that was and remains committed to our Constitution. I
made the decision to make this announcement yesterday for a
few reasons, to give President Trump the credit that he
deserves and the leadership that he's brought to a party
that can thankfully now look at Dick Cheney and George W.
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Bush and neocons in the rearview mirror, and really to
recognize that we have hope for our future with the
leadership of a president who has the courage and strength
to fight for peace. What I said last night was
how really, in the last three presidential elections, when you
look at it, even the status quo of the Republican
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establishment through everything they possibly could at Donald Trump back
in twenty sixteen to try to stop him. There were
a lot of neocons who were on that stage, and
Republican voters nominated President Trump. They nominated him again in
twenty twenty and again in twenty twenty four, really delivering
the mandate of the Republican voters and electorate that says
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that the party of George W. Book and Bush and
Dick Cheney is in the past, and it's time for
the Republican Party of old to come back and once
again be that shining city on a hill, the party
that Ronald Reagan once led there is such a clear
choice and contrast in this election, and so I chose
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to make this announcement yesterday. We're two weeks out from
election day. There are a lot of Democrats, I know,
maybe they're still they still call themselves Democrats, maybe they don't,
but who don't have anything in common with the Kamala
Harris Dick Cheney Democrat Party of today. And I wanted
to send a message loud and clear about why I
made this decision and why we as the American people,
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should have hope for our future if we do our
part as citizens and choose freedom and peace and prosperity
in this election by voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And Tulsey. Thank you, by the way, thank you for
joining the party, thank you for your service to the country.
We're honored to have you here on the show, honored
to have you as a fellow Republican. And I'm wondering,
as you see the closing argument of you mentioned the
Kamala campaign, it is that Trump is a fascist. I
mean you said that Trump is part of your awakening
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and your movement to the Republican Party away from because
the Democrat Party transformed that's true. Clays talked about it
in his own transformation on the show many times. The
Democrat Party of you know, nineteen ninety six is not
the Democrat Party of today, not even close. But when
they're calling the former president and likely future president a
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fascist as the primary argument and comparing him to Addolph Hitler,
what is that?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, It's nothing but a continuation of the demonization
of Donald Trump that began when he came down that
escalator in twenty fifteen when he ran for president the
first time. I don't know if we've had this conversation
on your show, but I had the first kind of
experience I had being confronted with This was a two
(04:26):
weeks after he got elected in twenty sixteen, he and
his team invited me to come and meet with him
to talk about foreign policy and ending regime change wars.
This was just before Thanksgiving in twenty sixteen. I happily
accepted the invitation. We had a great and substantive conversation
for about an hour in his office, sitting across from
him at his desk, and within minutes of walking out
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of Trump Tower in Manhattan, my phone started blowing up
with criticism from people who I was close to, my
then Democrat colleagues and others who criticize me for humanizing
Donald Trump. And this really gets to kind of the
demented mindset that unfortunately has set in in Kamala Harris's
Democrat Party is they cannot and refuse to have a
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debate based on policy and substance and a comparison of
Donald Trump's record as president and Vice President Harris's record
in the White House, which is essentially in her and
Joe Biden's words as co President Joe Biden, and so
because they can't stand on their record of failure on
every front, they're resorting to these dangerous and we've seen
(05:37):
the consequences of their dangerous rhetoric of painting Donald Trump
as today's modern day Hitler, as a fascist, as a dictator,
fomenting this kind of fear that is completely baseless. It's
completely baseless and leading to and no one should be
surprised that there are people like Ryan Rust and others
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who who feel they have a moral obligation to try
to kill him. That's the reality of the consequences of
the rhetoric coming from Kamala Harris and their friends and
the propaganda media. You know, for those who are paying attention. Unfortunately,
there are some who are believing it. I have no
doubt about that. But this is why it's so important
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for us to continue to get out there to speak
the truth. Last night, in President's rally, President Trump's rally,
he talked about how his campaign is a movement of love.
I don't know if he said that before. It's the
first time I heard him say that. But really, when
you look at the policies he's putting forward, and you
look at the impact that he had on the country
and in the world during his first term in office,
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you can see how that is. That is the motivation.
That it's about love of country, love for each other,
love for our fundamental God given rights and freedoms, and
a love and appreciation for peace.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
We're talking to Tulsea Gabbert, who has joined the Republican Party,
who is in Donald Trump. You ran against Kamala Harris
in twenty twenty as a Democrat. In that primary, I
believe you outlasted her pretty substantially, because she dropped out
with around one percent of the vote before anybody actually
started casting their ballots. Why do you think Democrats themselves
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rejected her. And do you think there's any way she
would have been the nominee if Democrats had actually had
an open primary process as opposed to just elevating her
when Biden dropped out.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, answ your second question first, I mean, you know, no,
I don't think she would be the nominee. But as
you said, we don't. It's not a it's not just
an ideological hypothesis or theory. We know because she ran
for president in twenty twenty in a Democratic primary, and
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people who she thought would be her base of support,
they saw her for who she was and recognized, as
I did, that she is not qualified to serve as
president and commander in chief. That's why she got out
of the race before even allowing anyone to cast their vote.
I think that I think that people then in the
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Democratic primary saw what we continue to see now is
she is not capable, nor should she be anywhere near
being the person who has the nuclear codes, being the
person who makes life and death decisions for our men
and women in uniform, being the person who represents the
United States in the world. I hope that voters are
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seeing that now, and I think that people on. Kamala's
own campaign team probably see it, which is why they
keep trying to hide her from having. You know, for example,
Donald Trump is going on Joe Rogan's podcast. I hope
they talk for two or three hours, and I think
I think Kamala Harris should do the same. They should
let voters see who she really is outside of the
sound bites and the scripted talking points, so that they
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can make the best informed decisions about who they want
to be as president.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
See what one more for you we're speaking of. Tulci
Gabbard came out as a Republican and a Donald Trump
endorser and supporter, and we're very pleased and honored. I
know Trump particularly is psyched about this. He's probably known
it's coming for a little bit, but he's psyched nonetheless
that the announcement has been made.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
But Tulsi, I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was on Bill Maher a couple of weeks ago,
and the topic of masculinity came up front page of
the New York Times. Today, the gender divide might be
the story of the election. You were a Democrat. You
were never hateful toward men in your rhetoric or in
your policies. If you sat down with Democrats now I
had to do this, it didn't go so well. But
if you sat down with Democrats now and tried to
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explain to them why they have a men problem in
this election, what would you say to them?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh, gosh, where do I start. Well, you know, it's
first of all, the stereotypes and their lack of understanding
and connected us with our people is quite astounding. And
I'll give I'll give one example of an article that
I saw pop up this morning saying Donald Trump cancels
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everything to go and meet with the most hated man
in America, referring to Joe Rogan. You hear people on
MSNBC talking about how, you know, our young men are
under threat of becoming fascist because they sit around all
day on the couch listening to Joe Rogan and getting angry.
Here's the truth, guys. Joe Rogan's podcast is the number
(10:33):
two podcast for women in the world, second only to
the True Crime podcast. So their understanding of men, young
men and masculinity is something that is just as twisted
as the Democrat Party has become, where they believe that
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a man and a woman are constructs of imagination and
that gender is something that's fluid and all of this
like they don't know what they're talking about. They're disconnected
with the reality of the country and with biological and
objective truth. So I don't expect them to be able
to connect with or communicate very clearly with men at
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any level in our country today.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Solsie, last question for you. There are a lot of
people out there that preach to the choir, that is,
they go to the base, They try to motivate the base.
That's a very important part of any political campaign, as
you well know. I would say that you and me
and people like us who are newer converts kind of
see ourselves as evangelists for what the Trump campaign is
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and what the Republican Party under him has become. If
you were asked, and I'm giving you the chance right
now to talk to people out there who maybe haven't
voted Republican in the past, what would you tell them
that they should consider in your mind as they get
ready to make their voting decisions.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
On two fronts. First of all, broadly the Republican Party
that I've experienced over these last few years, but even
as a member of Congress and a Democrat in Congress
who was critical of the leadership of both parties when
they deserved it. The Republican Party has become the big,
open tent party that the Democrat Party used to be.
(12:28):
They have been nothing but kind and respectful and welcoming
to me. Even if these leaders don't agree with me
on every issue, they have been encouraging of vigorous debate
around the most important issues that we care about and
are fundamentally rooted in our Constitution, our First Amendment rights,
our Second Amendment rights, our right to privacy, and civil liberties. Yes,
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there are still some leaders in the Republican Party I
disagree with and do so publicly who are not as
concerned about protecting the Constitution. I think we as citizens
have a responsibility to do that. But by and large,
the Republican Party of today, under President Trump's leadership, has
become that big tent, inclusive, freedom loving party that the
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American that is in the best interest of the American people.
To President Trump himself, I've had the opportunity to get
to know him much better over these last several months,
and what I see as a man who has personally
lost so much and paid a great personal price to
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do what he's doing to offer to serve our country
as president, he would not see Gabbarts if not out
of a recognition of a need for leadership.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Telsey Gabbard, everybody, Tulsi, thank you so much for being
with us. Welcome to the party officially. And I don't know,
Secretary of State Tulsi Gabbard sounds pretty cool to me.
I've just put it out there on the radio. We'll see,
We'll see, Tulsi. Thanks for being with us.
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Speaker 4 (15:38):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. A critical senate race,
there's a lot of those. Critical senate race in Virginia
has pitted Tim Kaine, remember him kind of against Republican
Hung Cow Hong Cow Captain hunk Cow served in the
US Special Operations. He's a veteran, he's a badass's great candidate.
(16:01):
And I hear Captain cal that you are also corralling
a couple of sick kids at home. So you're a man,
a renaissance man who handles a lot. Thanks for joining
us here on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, thank you so much. Yeah, we had to take
a quick pause in the campaign trill this morning so
I can take care of the kids because we were
up all night with kids storing up and stuff like that.
So it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh man, I'm sorry. That's uh.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Clay's got three so he knows all about that. I've
been through those days a lot. I hope you don't
get sick. Captain. What can you tell us about about
the campaign right now? What should we know about Virginia.
We've got a lot of people listening to us in
the state of Virginia. What should they know about you Virginia?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Well, first of all, Virginia is in play. I mean,
I don't know where they get all these polls from.
But let's look at the facts. The facts are the
early voting numbers, and we are doing twenty eight percent
better than we were twenty and twenty. So that means
that two hundred thousand less Democrats have voted and eighty
thousand more Republicans voted. And when you add those numbers up,
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we've basically shifted it about five six percent. And that's
within the Basically it gets me right right there, side
by side with Tim Kane, neck and neck. So this
is why they're getting worried. And look, I mean Tim Kaine,
like you said, nobody remembers what he's done for anybody
except for he got stuck on ninety five with a
bottle of doctor pepper during snowstorm and it was Hillary
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Clinton's running met.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
It didn't work out so well for him. Then I'm
hoping this isn't going to work out so well for
him in this Senate race. Tell us this, I mean,
how Virginia. We've seen some encouraging data about Virginia. I
don't know how much we could say about whether it's
truly in play for Trump. I know you're in a
tight race with Tim Kain there, but how would you
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describe the politics of the state right now? And what
do you think is in the realm of the po
possible as we are now less than two weeks from
election day.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, I look at Virginia in four quadrants, right the
northern Virginia, which is Fairfax County and Loudon County, and
you know these cities like Arlington and Alexandria very blue.
I did very well there in twenty twenty two. I
ran for Congress there and I didn't win, but I
moved the needle thirteen percent from an area where Joe
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Biden won by nineteen percent, and we took it down
the sixth. Then you look at Hampton Roads, so that's
a very big military area and I spent three tours
of duty down there and three of my kids were
born there. And then there's Richmond, and then there's southwest Virginia,
so that includes Roanoak and all the way down to
Abingdon and Bristol, and that is very, very deep red.
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And so right now we're waiting, we're crushing in that
area and Hampton Roads I'm actually winning and Richmond, believe
or not, I am. I'm up by one percent, which
is huge because that's where Tim came this. So all
we need to do is move North Virginia enough. And
we've already won this race.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What would it mean for people out there that are
in Virginia. We know to speak. It's not as if
you have to sell people on the idea that Republicans
can win in Virginia. Because in twenty twenty one, Glenn Youngkin,
Jason Miarez, and one in ag one at governor also
lieutenant governor wins some seers one swept the board there
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in terms of big statewide offices. What would it mean
on a federal level if you win, if Trump wins,
because I think it would be massive. What would Virginia
have the ability to control if that happened.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, we controlled the Senate, and having the Senate is
important because President Trump only half of his appointed positions
were confirmed by the Senate. They were playing all these games.
I mean, remember they try to impeach him before he
even took the oast of office. They were playing all
these games early on, and you know the Russian and
Oaks thing. I mean, it's just insane. Need somebody that
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is going to go in there and help get his
appointed positions in there so he can actually do the
job of rescuing this country. I mean, we knew how
it was before four years ago. We could afford gas,
it was less than two dollars gallon. We could afford
to put food on table, We could afford to buy houses.
Today we were hurting, and there's tens of millions of
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illegal aliens that are here that shouldn't be here, including
thirteen thousand convicted murders and sixteen thousand convicted rapists that
were rooming free in the United States.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Captain Hank cow was now running for Senate in Virginia,
and I'm wondering if you're getting We asked pretty much
all the tight Senate race Republican candidates this, but your
opponent at this phase, because this tells us how he's
trying to position himself visa vu but also how the
Democrat Party more broadly is trying to play games with.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
The perceptions of the electorate.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Is Tim Can happening to run any like, oh, yeah,
I work with Trump sometimes, I mean, or is he
doing the I'm a moderate, you know, I run my
own things. I don't just listen to Chuck Schumer, Like,
how is he trying to convince people in the middle
that he's not just a hard line Democrat who will
do whatever the party machinery of Schumer and Pelosi and
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the rest want.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Him to Oh, he's doing exactly just like you said.
He's trying to act like he's a moderate. He acts
like he's the nice guy that everybody likes. But the
fact is everybody remembers what he's done for Virginia, which
is absolutely nothing. I mean, he's voted in line with
Joe Biden, but also he sat back. He sat back
as things were happening in Virginia. For example, there's a
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drone that flew off of a Chinese ship that's within
our twelve nartical miles onto Langley Air Force Base and
shut down f twenty two flights for eight days. There
was a Chinese national who's trying to take drone pictures
of every ship in Norfolk Harbor, and he did nothing.
We could have stopped all this stuff. And not only that, well,
hur Kane Helene hit Virginia and killed two Virginians and
(22:04):
put a lot of people out of their homes. He
was at a pig roast. I mean, this guy is
just he's definitely the cabal and he's part of just
the establishment. And you know, we're done with him. He's
now asking him to be in until the year twenty thirty.
The guy's been around for thirty years in various jobs.
He's never had a real job, and now he's asking
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to stay in until the year twenty thirty. And I
think Virginians would say no. So the more people that
vote in Virginia, the rhetoric it becomes. So I just
need to encourage everybody. We are winning the early vote,
and this is this is significant because we can win
this race. Is if everybody just goes out there and vote.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
We're talking to Captain Hung Cow. Kamala Harris would say,
he's home right now with some sick kids, which I
bet a lot of you have had to experience. By
the way, also a decent argument for why people should
get out and vote early, right, because if you got
young kids, you never know when they're going to get sick.
You never know when you're going to get that call
and have to go pick him up at school. So
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if you have the flexibility, get out and vote early
so you can eliminate any of those uncertainties by waiting
till election day. Kamala Harris, Captain Cow would say, America
is a fundamentally racist country. How has your life experience
in the Virginia been. Do you believe that that accusation
is true?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Absolutely not. I came here as refugee from Vietnam. I
grew up in West Africa. I spent seven years over there.
I came here. I grabbed onto the American dream. I
went to the top schools in the country, including the
United States Naval Academy. I had fellowships of Harvard and MIT.
And you know what, I was able to serve in
the United States Navy as a special operations officer. I
was a deep sea diver that recovered John F. Kenney Junior.
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His wife is a sister in law. I recovered other
aircraft that crashed in the ocean and diffuse mombs for
our steel teams and special Forces teams in Iraq, Afghanistan,
Somalia to pay back everything that owed this country. So,
you know, and I rose to the rank of captain.
Only one percent of officers make that rank. And so
how how can you say that's racist? I mean, I've
gotten everything I ever dreamt of getting through hard work.
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You just have to roll up your sleeves and do it,
you know. And I say this to all illegal immigrants.
Don't ask for the American dream if you're not willing
to debate the American laws and embrace the American culture,
because I did.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Captain Cow also want to get your take on your
front page New York Times today. Gender divide is a
huge part of the election story so far. And what
would you describe as the democrats masculinity problem?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Oh, I'm just look at Tim Moll I mean, look
at that. I think it's the beta male. I mean,
and Tim Kaine toon, like all these guys, they're just
beta males. And you know they get on me because
I say that. You know, we don't need drag queens,
you know, recruiting for the United States Navy, because we're
looking for the alpha males and alpha females who are
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going to rip out their own guts, eat them and
ask for seconds. These are people that are gonna win.
And of course they said that I was going off
some weird cannabalistic rant, but that's what the military's made of,
and that's what really most of Americans are, like, we're
hard work Americans and we want to work hard. And
you know what, don't ever put down America because we'll
fight you for it.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
What made you decide to run for office.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You ran through that entire history of really successful life
experience that you've had serving the military, going to all
these great academic institutions, becoming highly educated. What was the
tipping point for you when you said I have to
do this.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
It was when Afghanistan fall. This has never been my dream.
I've never wanted to run for office. To be very
honest with you, I wanted to stay in the Navy forever.
But watching Afghanistan fall, where mothers are heading baby submarines,
just like what happened in Vietnam, and I just couldn't
sit back and watch it anymore. Because they're turning this
country into why I ran away from, you know a.
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They repeated the sins of them from for a, betting
our allies and friends and our troops behind, and then
not only that, you know, turning this country into a
socialist communist regime. And so yeah, I'm gonna fight for
because I love this country so much. I'm not gonna
let this turn into where I ran away from.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Cap and Cow.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
We want to mobilize all of our listeners in Virginia
on your behalf here. Obviously, early voting is open, right,
so they can get out there. But also what's your
site and what would be your final message for all them?
Because we believe you can close this out and you
can bring home the w we can't.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
So go to hung for Va dot com and you
can see where to help us out on our campaign
and get out there and vote, because you know what
this is. This is depending on everybody. How badly do
you want to win this race? And that means to
go out there and vote early and get everybody you know,
all your friends or your neighbors or your family, get
out there and vote because our country depends on it.
(26:58):
And you know the last messa. Just look, ask yourself
this one question. Are you better off today than you
or four years ago? If you say yes, then you're
probably an illegal alien.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Hung four va dot com. Hung for Va dot com
for everybody out there, I think is the website. Good
luck with those sick kids, Captain Cow and we want
everybody listening to us right now in Virginia to get
out and push that button for you and.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
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Speaker 3 (27:28):
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Speaker 5 (29:27):
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Speaker 1 (29:28):
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Speaker 6 (29:43):
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It's silly, it's goofy, it's good Times fight it in
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Gender, masculinity, men and women, boys and girls. These are
concepts as old as humanity itself, right, But Democrats are
having a problem right now. Clay New York Times from
page of the website above the fold. I guess, but
it's not really a fold anymore. Why gender may be
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the defining issue of the election. They're already starting to
get into the why Kamala maybe isn't totally gonna win.
We're just putting it out there.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Possibly.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
New York Times readers, they're starting to prepare the ground
for this because they're worried people who say, don't be overconfident.
I'm not over confident. Hey, have you voted today?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Can you vote?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Have you already voted? These are the questions everybody listening.
All we got all fifty states. We probably got about
a dozen different countries represented too as well, like people
listening in South Korea and German. Basically, wherever there's a
military base, we got Canadians. They can't vote, obviously, but military,
Sorry Canadians, military, you can get your mail in ballots,
so you know, don't don't leave anything the chance a lot.
(31:06):
You know, a lot of military live in states, you know,
they they base out of states where they can still
vote even if they're abroad on assignment. I believe obviously
it's never the military. CIA don't. I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
I think I vote.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I voted absentee in two thousand and eight, so because
I was overseas. Anyway, this is the moment where gender
is getting some attention. When I think is fascinating is
that they know it's a problem, and even when they
try to address how it's a problem. Clay, I think
the Democrats fall flat entirely. They are so off on this.
(31:41):
They have gone so crazy on this. I sent this
to you. Was it eight hundred medals that women have
lost to trans athletes according to some un report. I
mean there, you'll notice not a lot of talk about
like the trans rights and the trans community from Democrats
going on right now. And this shows you exactly where
this election stands on the gender issue at this moment.
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I think Kamala was asked specifically about an aspect of
trans policy. Really should there be taxpayer funded transgender surgeries?
Which means if you're in the military, if you're a
federal government employee. Should people pay for sex change operations?
Let us note that you can't. Actually this doesn't work.
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There is no such thing as a sex change operation
that changes your sex. It is not possible. And people
aren't honest about this. But you remove your intact and
viable sex organs and try to create some version of
the other genders. And it if you read about this stuff,
and I truly mean this is it is awful what
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is going on, and that they are pushing this on
teenagers and even young boys and girls below that is appalling.
Kamala has asked though about this, and I want you
to hear, and maybe this ties into why we don't
trust Democrats on gender. He's asked about trans policy.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Play seven on the question of your beliefs, what you
believe in Let me ask you this question very.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Broadly speaking here, sure do you believe.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
That chance gender Americans should have access to gender affirming
care in this country?
Speaker 8 (33:13):
I believe we should follow the law. I mean, I
think you're probably pointing to the fact that Donald Trump's
campaign has spent tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
They're trying to define you on this Yes, I'm asking
you to define yourself though, just broadly speaking, what is
your value? Do you believe they should have that access?
Speaker 8 (33:28):
I believe that people, as the law states, even on
this issue about federal law, that that is a decision
that doctors will make in terms of what is medically necessary.
I'm not going to put myself in the position of
a doctor.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Clay that she will not answer that question with it
with a big yes. She doesn't see do you support
gender affirming care as a slow pitch down the middle
that she can hit into the upper deck. She've used
it as ah, I'm going to follow the law? What
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Also, this is why I get so frustrated at media.
How has no interviewer asked Kamala Harris or Joe Biden
do you think men should be able to compete in
women's sports? It is such a crystallizing question. There isn't
a way to dodge it. It's a yes or no question.
(34:24):
How is it possible that Biden has been in office
for four years now basically and he's never been asked
that question? And how is it possible that Kamala could
be running for president of the United States that this
could be a major point of discussion, and no one
has directly asked her yes or no, do you believe
men should be able to compete in women's sports. I
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think she would be unable to answer it in the
same way that she was unable to answer that question
and pivots to, oh, Trump is really evil and you
should ask him that question. I've been on this for
years as a parent. There are all sorts of things
you can't do when you are under eighteen years old.
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To me, having permanently body altering cosmetic surgery under the
age of eighteen that is completely unnecessary right should not
be allowed in the same way that I don't think
an under eighteen year old should be able to get
a tattoo.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
This is crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's crazy to me Buck that this conversation is never asked,
that she's never put on the spot over this. The
way I think this is translating into national level politics
that affects this election and is why is tied into
I should say there's a lot that Democrats are doing
wrong when it comes to the gender stuff. They have
absolutely as a party become cult like in their elevation
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of this trans lunacy quite honestly, that you should have
men competing against women in sports. And you know, and
again this all goes without saying, we treat everyone with kindness,
we treat everyone with respect. You want to treat everybody
as a human being, you know, equal in the eyes
of God, all their dignity, all their rights. But it
is in fact unkind to allow a thirteen year old
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to have her breast chopped off because someone's convinced her
she's actually a boy. It is it is actually evil.
It's more than unkind. There are casualties from this. There
are people who are being harmed who are not even
adults yet. And that's where a lot of the focus
is right now. But you'll notice it's election time. The
American people are not with them on this, and so
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they start to play this game. Kama is playing this
game of all of a sudden, can't speak honestly about
Kamala was somebody who wanted taxpayer funded gender surgery for
inmates in prison. Yeah, And the logic of that position,
let's be.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Clear, is you have to then move that man that
now says it's almost always a man who says he's
a woman, Right, I mean, it's almost we're talking about
the context of the trans it's overwhelmingly and in the
prison system. No woman is saying, turn me into a
man and put me into a men's prison.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
That's a really bad idea.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
But you're supposed to pretend like these gender differences don't
exist in the most clear differences really in our entire civilization,
our entire society. And then they turn around and they
tell men who are trying to be aspirational about characteristics
that we celebrate within manhood that you're the bad guys
and you're toxic, and there's all this stuff, and Clay,
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I mean, the perfect example this was I've mentioned a
few tons on the Bill Mars show. Bill's like, why
are Democrats losing masculinity? I try to open the conversation
about the challenges that young men face these days, black, Hispanic, white, everybody. Right,
young men, here's the uphill climb they have, and the
Laura Coats from CNN, sitting next to me, jumps in
with your man explaining, why aren't we talking about women minorities.
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That is why Kamala Harris is losing. That is why
the Democrats are scrambling because they've become cult like and
obsessed with denigrating men in masculinity and eliminating the differences
between the genders, which will always fail because it is
always a lie.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, and this is why I'm optimistic on this particular issue.
First of all, I have three boys, so I am
around them and their friends. They're sixteen, fourteen, and ten,
and I think there is a strong push from their
generation and people a little bit older. And you're seeing
this reflected in the numbers to Hey, being a man's
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a good thing, and I'm not going to apologize. And
I think a big part of this is there's a
lot of women out there that don't want to end
up with wimpy men. I think almost all of you
out there are listening right now. You're like, I don't.
I don't want a constantly apologizing, sniveling, weak person man
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to end up in a marriage with, in a relationship with.
Women don't like this, even and this is a great
example of talking left and living right. Even women in
positions of power that are on the left tend to
end up with very masculine men. So they don't even
want the men that they claim on television are so attractive.
(39:12):
Remember was that Dana Bash who said, you know, they're
trying to appeal to men with a lower testosterone level.
Remember when they said that about the DNC compared to
Hulk Cogan ripping his shirt off and Kid Rock walking
around American Badass and everything else. Here's the reality. Men
aspire all men, certainly heterosexual men, but I think a
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lot of gay men too, to be bigger, stronger, faster
than they actually are. That's why superheroes are so popular
with men. That's why pro athletes are super popular with men.
Most men wish they were bigger, stronger, faster than they
actually were. That is the alpha male is in most
men's aspirational desire. It's also what most women want, and
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what they're trying to sell us is the opposite of that.
And Buck, this is really important and you hit on it.
It really only goes one way because men who are
dealing with women pretending to be men, really we're not
threatened in any way by that. You almost hear no
discussion about that. Most men feel bad for a woman
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who decides that she wants to identify as a man,
because that person, by and large is going to be smaller, weaker,
and more effeminate than the average man.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
We just kind of feel sorry for them.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Men who are physically male and try to dominate women
actually are stepping into women's spaces and saying, sorry, I'm
actually the woman of the year. No one is naming
a dude a chick pretending to be a dude the
man of the year. Men just don't stand for it.
We kind of feel sorry for people. Men are behaving
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oftentimes like the men that women claim they don't like
by taking over women's space. They're walking around in the
locker rooms, they're winning women's championships. This is crazy talk.
And the fact that Kamala won't answer it, and she
won't even be asked because the media knows how crazy
it is, is an example of how they're protecting her
on this issue.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I also think you can distill it down to something
that's very uh straightforward, and and that is if the
two biggest pitches for why to vote for Kamala are
abortion and Trump is hitler, what kind of a guy
is excited about that? You know what kind of guy
is gonna go Trump is Hitler?
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Like, you're I'm so by his opinions? Oh I gotta
curl him in the fet.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Like you know, this is there's sort of a cringing
feminine man that is the archetype of Trump is Trump
is hitler and I'm so scared. I mean, this is
this is absurd, This is bizarre. And and then on
the on the abortion issue too, I think most men
I know there, I know Democrats are getting a lot
of male votes. You know, obviously we're talking about why
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there's a big difference. Okay, why there's a twenty point
differential right now basically between Trump and kamalaw for men,
not men of any race, men, Okay, across the board,
it's like fifteen points, but it's a lot, And it's
things like this, and it's their unwillingness to talk about
these issues, and.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
It's their.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Delusions about how they've positioned themselves as a party and
they they don't want to actually deal with it. It's
so funny because there are a lot of shrill, unhappy
feminists who are the base of the Democrat party. And
if you start to speak with any reverence and elevation
about men, then it's all, well the patriarch think about
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these terms. Do you know a single conservative clay who
uses toxic masculinity, no patriarchy, male feminine.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
I don't know a man.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I don't know leave aside, like whatever political leanings there are,
I don't know men who talk like that. Even people
who might be willing to vote for Kamala, They're not like, Oh,
there's so much toxic masculinity in the world. I also
think buck this is important and it factors in in
a big way. You know, if you had this would
be a fun debate if you had to pick a
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state solely based on the average masculinity of the man
in that state. Right, Like, we had a Hunger Game
style state by state fight and it was average masculine men,
the average man in each state. The battleground states, actually,
I would argue, would skew more masculine than the national average. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
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I don't think of men who live there as effeminate
and wimpy. Georgia, North Carolina, don't think that. Arizona, don't
think that. Nevada, don't think that. Sorry, Massachusetts. If you
were like, hey, what city do you think would get
what state would the guy get his ass kicked the
most by other men?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Massachusetts? Vermont? Sorry, like you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
About, And so the attacks on masculinity I think actually
play worse for Kamala in the states that are going
to ultimately end up deciding this election. And I think
the men in those states are overwhelmingly rejecting Kamala, which
is why Buck, can we come back?
Speaker 5 (44:28):
We need to play some audio.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Kamala just had a presser at the Vice President's residence
where she walked out and said Trump's Hitler and then
refused to take questions and went back in.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
This is legitimately their closing art. This is the closing argument.
It is We're not exaggerating. This is their closing argument.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
Trump is Hitler.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean Hitler, you know, is really nice to everybody
and funny and did a great job for four years
as president.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
So it's kind of a weird Hitler.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yes, when we come back, we will, We'll talk about
that and more. But I want to tell you out there,
do you not want to be the kind of dude
who's voting for Kamala Harris. I saw the math in
the Atlanta Journal Constitution twenty eight percent of men in
Georgia are voting for Kamala Harris. Twenty eight percent I
bet they have incredibly low testosterone. In fact, I wish
(45:15):
we could send all those men some chalk because it
would elevate their testosterone twenty percent over the next three months,
and they might well turn into Trump voters if they
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Speaker 6 (46:18):
Two guys walk up to a mic he anything goes
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free
iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Buck you
are down in the great state of Florida. I will
be there for Thanksgiving. I'm already looking forward to being
down there in a few weeks. But the continued vote
totals in Florida are pretty extraordinary for Republicans. I want
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everybody voting early.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
I don't want you to not vote early.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
If you listen to this program and there isn't a
one hundred percent voting rate, you are going to disappoint me,
and you're going to disappoint Buck. Bunk voted early on
Monday in Florida. I voted early on Friday in Tennessee
with my eighty year old dad, who is recovering from
a broken hip. Newest numbers that just dropped about twenty
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minutes ago. Republicans are winning the early vote buck by
twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Points in Florida.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Right now, over a million Republicans have already voted in
Florida one point one million Republican voters nine hundred and
thirty seven Democrat voters. Also a lot of people with
no party affiliation, as always is the case, and all
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of the early voting mail in ballots are already included
in that number as well, and Republicans have opened up
a seven point lead overall. They released these a couple
of times every day. And to put this in context,
in the last presidential election cycle, Democrats led in early
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voting and Republicans showed up on election Day and Trump
ended up winning by three I want everybody out there
in Florida to keep voting. I want Trump to win
Florida by ten or more. I want this to be
a no doubt race in all of your states. But
I just want to continue to share numbers out there now.
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Buck you and I just recently in Florida went out
and shot the pepper spray projectile launcher from Saber Super Fun.
They had targets set up for all of us. We
had a really good time out in what felt like
middle of nowhere, Florida, like we were basically in the Everglades.
We were at the edge of the Everglades, and if
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we had kept going over the burm, we had a
couple of hundred miles before we'd reached the gulf. That's
what it was. There was nothing there except that's right.
So you have many different Yeah, sorry, oh I was. Yes,
we're gonna talk with the range, right. I've been in
many different ranges. I've been to ranges overseas. I've been
to all kinds of gun ranges. Here, I think the
first time, I mean, there's photos of me with my
(49:13):
dad at the gun rage shooting twenty two is when
I'm probably eight or nine years old. So this is
not something that's new. Josh Hawley has a guy running.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Against him for Senate. His name is Lucas. Uh, how
do you say his last name?
Speaker 1 (49:27):
I just choose to pronounce it kunts. I'm not sure
if that's right, but that's how we're gonna choose to
pronounce it.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Coutin's Couton's cunts.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
He's running against a guy named Kuntz, which probably ties
in because he's a Democrat. But but so they're out
at the gun range.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
So mister Lucas, Lucas k they're out at the gun
range with Adam Kinsinger and mister they're they're shooting and
they've put they put out these photos. Now I put
out a photo making fun of myself because I went
on a little tear where I almost nailed a bunch
of steel targets at about twenty yards. It actually was
twenty yards. And those of you fire pistols, no with
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no red dot site. Okay, it was just the factory
iron sighte that came with the gun. The Grizzly is
super accurate, super comfortable to fire. I love my Barrackrey,
Garsenal and Grizzly. But you know, I'll tell you right now,
I have cross eyed dominance, which is very annoying in
the world of shooting, which is where clay. You know
you're right handed, but your dominant eye is your non
(50:26):
strong side eye. And there are ways now the way
that if I were trying to be a Navy seal sniper,
which I am not, that'd be very impressive, but I'm not.
I'd have to learn how to shoot left handed. Really,
that's the real way. So you have to just go
okay for you.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Have to be on the same side, and you can't
be trying to cross Yourselfhoh, it's.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
It's just too it's too difficult. I mean, they would
the doc. I know some of you might disagree with this,
but I've had friends who went through Marine sniper school,
Navy seal snipers training, and they say that if you're
if you're cross eye dominant, they're going to have you
shoot on that other side. If I'm wrong, you know,
Gunnery Sergeant so and so, you can write it and
tell us some wrong anyway. Point, it does make it
more complicated, right, Why am I talking about this?
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yes, because these guys go to the r My point
is that I'm just trying to shoot to get better,
shooting all the time. I don't claim to be a
great shot. I am very safe. However, I do know
raine security, I do know how these things are set up,
and I do have an understanding of the critical rules
to keep everybody. If you obey there's the rules of
firearm safety. As all of you guys and gals know,
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the chance of people getting hurt is zero.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
But you have to obey the rules.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
You have to know what you're shooting at, what distance
you're shooting at, what's behind what you're shooting at. Kinzinger,
who I believe was in the Navy right, not like
a Navy seal. I think he was like a Navy
I don't know what he was. He a pilot the
naval as.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
I have no idea a good question.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
So he has some military experience. I'm just going to
tell you I saw these photos and it's Lucas Clay.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Lucas Cunts, Lucas Lucas Kutts out there was and he
was running against Josh Holly, and Josh Holly he's gonna
smoke him. But you know, make sure you get out
there and vote because the margins matter, and you want
to make sure that we don't leave anything on the
table here. But Kinsinger and this other guy are out there.
They have I mean, they posted the photo. So I'm
just basically with it.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
You've got Kinsinger who is shooting a long gun at
a distance of about five yards okay, with a scope
on it. I mean with what you have a scope
for magnification. You don't need to magnify something that's five
yards away if you're going to be shooting. If you
can't see something five yards away, you shouldn't be shooting.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
Period.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
His eye protection is eye pro is on his head.
So you know you wear this clay because of fragments
that could happen, you know, to protect your eyes, so
he's shooting without eye pro but it's on his head
with a scope at five yards. They're hitting steel targets.
They're hitting, you know, targets. This is not firing into paper.
And they wounded a reporter with some fragment. Something came
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back and hit them because their fire gets such range.
They're shooting effectively metal, which you never I mean, you know,
I shoot at steel targets that VideA. You've got to
know are you shooting pistol or are you shooting rifle?
What's your distance? Basically, they injured a reporter trying to
show how much they love guns in Missouri, because that's
how things are going for the Democrats these days, Clay.
If Republicans had done this, it would be huge news story.
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Imagine if Republicans have been out there shooting guns, injured
a reporter and look like complete webs based on safety,
like you can make fun. You know, you don't have
to be a good shot to me at the range. Okay,
you gotta be safe though. These guys look like they
have no idea what is going on. They have a
photo of putting a tourniquit on a guy's on the
reporter's arm. I mean the reporter, if he had gotten hit,
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correct me if I'm wrong. It looks like it glanced
off his arm.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Basically, yeah, if he had gotten hit the wrong place,
he could have been severely injured.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
Here right, well, yes, I mean, if they're shooting, uh,
you know, if they're shooting, I can't really see exactly
what the targets are they're shooting. It looks like coffee
cans or something like that that can create at that distance,
that can create effectively like a shrapnel. So you hit
something and something comes off that can and can slice you.
Speaker 5 (54:15):
Or hurt you.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
If you're shooting a hard steel target, the bullet can
actually ricochet back and hit you, especially with a rifle,
which which could kill somebody. I mean that's very dangerous.
So the whole thing though, it's absurd. They're firing scope
rifles with no iepro five feet away from them, and
somebody actually got injured. And it's just funny because this
is yeah, it's a photo op, and yet they can't
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even get this right.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Also, can we just stop where politicians do things that
they otherwise would never do in an effort to try
to seem normal.
Speaker 5 (54:48):
I give tried it.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
You may have seen it. Trump doesn't seem like a
huge gun guy. Like I respect the fact that we
should have the Second Amendment. I've been out to a
bunch of ranges over the years. But if you don't
do something ever, and you try to do it to
seem normal in your political campaign, it actually is going
to backfire on you. I mean, Wall's going out and
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not being able to load his gun correctly when he
was trying to tell everybody that he goes and shoots
quail all the time. We've certainly seen Tacacus in the
tank back in the day. Whatever you like to do,
go do it. Don't pretend. Remember when Hillary Clinton buck
came out and said she'd always been a Yankees fan
and like she grew up in Chicago, and everybody was like,
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what in the world are you talking about when she
decided to run for the Senate, or I memorably recall
when Ted Kennedy tried to praise Mark maguire and Sammy
Sosa for their home run race back in the late
nineties and he mispronounced both both of their names. It's like,
don't try and tell me something that you're not actually
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interested in.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
You really are.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
And it just feels like these things always no pun
intended because it actually happened here backfire on the candidates.
I don't know what cunts is thinking here, like just
you're gonna get your ass kicked in in Missouri.
Speaker 5 (56:11):
Cunts.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Don't try and convince me that you're something you're not.
Don't kill a reporter to try to prove to me
how much you like guns. Guns, cunts. So I don't
like this guy. I don't like this decision making.
Speaker 8 (56:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Well, also in the social.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
Media era, where there's all these photos and video and
people can really see for themselves what's going on, right,
this has changed the game a lot where I think
I think inauthenticity is a much bigger risk than it
used to be.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
The old photos Clay.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
When you would think about the like the photo op
if it was in the New York Times, it's whatever
those photographers who have picked a team and picked a side, yeah,
are showing to the public. But when people are taking
their own photos, their own film, their own videos, and
it's just the content is constantly flying, as is the
shrapnel apparently at the range of Kinzinger when they're doing
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that inauthenticity is just people can pick up on it
being a phony. You know, it doesn't matter what level
of education you have. It doesn't matter you know how
media savvy you are.
Speaker 5 (57:13):
People can just pick up phonies.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
In fact, a lot of people who are just living
in the everyday world and don't think of themselves as
fancy are particularly good at picking up on phonies.
Speaker 6 (57:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Like, I'll give you an example. If I don't know
how to fix anything on a car. If I were
running for political office and suddenly you saw me on
a dolly like underneath a car trying to look like
I knew what I was doing there with a wrench
in my hand or something, I would feel like my
own personal alarm bells would be going off. Now, if
you see me at a football game, you know it's
going to be a natural thing. These politicians are such morons,
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and they're advised by such morons that it really staggers
me how often they put themselves in positions to your point,
buck where reasonable rational. Every day a mayor can see
it and say, yeah, this is just so transparently fake.
I mean, when we rely on the wisdom of twelve
people to decide whether you go to prison for the
(58:09):
rest of your life or not on a jury. Over time,
I really do believe millions of people come to understand you,
good or ill. Millions of people listen to us every day.
Some of them are spandex wearing Kabala supporters on bicycles.
Speaker 5 (58:26):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
A lot of them like to blow into flutes and
make pretty sounds with it.
Speaker 5 (58:31):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
I'm not gonna pretend that that's me. You're not gonna
see me in spandex walking around with them flue thigs.
Speaker 5 (58:38):
It's not my thing.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
Big Senate candidate Kuntz is a flute playing cunt wearing.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
Cunts with a K definitely plays the flute. I'm just
gonna say, and he's gonna get absolutely wrecked in Missouri
because Missourians are going to look through him and recognize
what a fraud he is. I'm just glad this reporter
didn't get killed at their stupid shootout range.
Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
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