November 8, 2024 • 61 mins
Whine less, work harder, and do pushups. The collapse of legacy media. Julie Kelly on the fate of J6’ers. Election integrity
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast O.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I just keep smiling, Buck.
I know many of you out there all over the
country and around the world feel the same way that
I do. I just find myself unable to put down
my phone as the fallout from Trump's massive nationwide victory
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three hundred and twelve electoral votes continues to absolutely drive
everyone on the left utterly insane. And there are so
many great clips that we have pulled for you today
where we can basically tap dance through the refuse of
these individuals broken brains, and I think you guys are
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going to very much enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I watched the woman bragging about buying champagne that we
played yesterday. Buck, I bet I've watched the video five times.
I can't. I can't stop watching it. Every time I
watch it, it gets better and better. We may need
to play that again today for people who might have
missed it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I just love being able to send it to friends
and bring them a few minutes of untrammeled, you know,
pure joy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's funny because I actually think she's so utterly perfectly
representative of a Kamala voter. And there's funny. I don't
even know if you saw this. Buck, Tulane women's basketball
coach some of this stuff, wore a Kamala Harris T shirt,
which I honestly did not know exist, on the sideline
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for her women's basketball coaching debut and lost.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
She wore the T shirt on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm like, these people's brains are just so broken that
they can't comprehend how bad they lost, because I think
they really thought that they were going to win a
landslide election and that Trump was going to be soundly
and completely defeated. And they don't even know how to respond.
And I I saw this, and what's I want to
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make sure I get this guy's name right. I don't
even know if you've seen this yet, Buck, but on
MSNBC Morning Joe, you may have seen it this morning
as you watched Morning Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Which are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
My friend, mister Jurordardis Dardis. I'm not sure what this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm looking it up because I've never even heard of
him before, Yes, columnist, a non jurordardists Jurordardists.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, So they're having a discussion about how they've lost
young men massively, and they're talking about the impact of
all these different shows on young men, and he suggests
that what they really need to really kind of punch
back is a feminist version of Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I just can't even say it straight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
A feminist version of Joe Rogan to reach young men.
And and basically the argument Buck and I gotta be
care here some aphrase it. Basically, the argument is we
need to have shows where we prove to everyone that
we are even more of pussy willows than they thought
we were already pussy willows before.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But listen to this guy.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The way to get young men back in the Democrat
camp is a feminist version of This is what they're
This is This guy's dead serious. He's like, I've looked
at all the election results. We need a feminist version
of Joe Rogan. This is his answer. This is what
it sounds like on MSNBC if you're missing it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What they have done in their online media ecosystem is
build a radicalization engine. Literally, the way militant groups do
around the world that takes people from relatively low level
annoyances with the world. Why are eggs so expensive? Why
is my kid learning this new thing in American history
in school that I didn't learn, and then moves them
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through YouTube videos, through podcasts, moves them from that annoyance
all the way, slowly, slowly, slowly to a full blown
fascist politics. It's an elaborate, multi billion dollar infrastructure, and
there is nothing like it on the pro democracy side.
When a man is just lost and lonely and not
yet radicalized, we don't have the equivalent of Joe Rogan
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and Jordan Peterson to move that man in a feminist direction.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I can't believe this is real. I watched this clip
this morning and I just couldn't stop laughing. First of all,
the guy's voice is even better without the image on television,
because he sounds like the perfect NPR guy. That anyone
who is under thirty and a man is just going
to be like this is insufferably annoying and boring. But
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the idea that you could just feminize Joe Rogan and
everything would be great is so perfect.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
It's really what they need is a pronoun, announcing a pronoun,
announcing fellow, who's gonna come forward.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm just gonna tell everybody that's a really good Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was on the Daily Wires election night show sitting
next to Jordan Peterson. I met Jordan Peterson like five
or six times. Jordan Peterson has no idea who I am,
which is really very funny.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Buck. It's like, are you a man? Well, let's get
into that. Let's ask that question for a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
You know, maybe you want to announce pronouns and cry
a lot in.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Your pillow because Kamala lost. He is such an unthreatening man.
Jordan Peterson super brilliant, right, super brilliant. But the idea
that people are like, oh, this is what a Nazi
sounds like is utterly insane. And I've seen this with
my own.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Boys, Buck, because it is true what he says, which
is mainstream media that is MSNBC and CNN do not
speak to young men at all. And they do because
I got three young men in my house. They do
go on YouTube and they find things. But I kind
of love it because, first of all, my middle son
is Buck, the ultimate bro. I mean, just like the
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other day, he ordered something from TikTok. He's now on
TikTok and it got a package at the house. You'll
love this. And the package comes in and I'm like,
what did you order on TikTok And he's like, I've
got to get my forearms stronger, and so he has ordered.
Do you remember when you were in like high school,
like the bro, maybe the ultimate bro, like had the
kidding arm.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Strength the back of I had. I had guns and
Ammo magazine in high school. I had Maxim magazine in
high school. Yeah, I may or may not have bought
those electrodes that give you a six pack. Spoiler alert,
they do not give you a six pack I want.
I mean, he's funny about it. He's got a really
good sense of humor. But I said, what do you like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He's like, well, when I'm in class and they're talking,
I can take notes with one hand and with the
other hand, I'm just gonna get really strong forearms so
I'm better at catching passes on the football. I'm telling
you that this is his logic, and I just I
can't stop laughing. But what they get out of the
YouTube thing Buck is actually I think it's like, stop whining.
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This is what they're being told. This is what it's
so fun. Wine less, work harder, do more push ups.
This is what the male influencers on YouTube and TikTok
and everything else are teaching them. And I'm like, that's
kind of perfect advice, honestly for young men.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wine less, work harder, do push ups?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Is I mean that really has appealed to them.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'm gonna tell you something, Clay, the you're seeing I
think a massive change in the way the media going
forward is going to try to present some of these issues.
This whole anti masculine stuff. I'm not saying they're going
to abandon it, but they're going to become much more slick,
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and they've become too bold, too obvious, too stupid.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
On these issues.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And the people that are now coming out, who are
they think they're playing to their audience and they are
by saying, you know, you know, we just need to
have male feminist Jordan Peterson's and male feminist Joe Rogan's,
which is hilarious because also what would that mean. I mean,
you think Joe Rogan's gonna come out and say, you know, yeah,
like I don't think that men are stronger than women.
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You know, this whole thing is absurd, Like their argument
falls down right away. But I think that they recognize
this is a long term political liability. And some of
the voices that we've gotten used to hearing who say
very dumb things about all of this, I think they're
going to fade a bit or they're going to change
their tune on it, because this is just they've taken
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too much of a shell Aki and they know now
that it's open season on these issues.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And because of X for example.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
McLay think about they would not have allowed people to
be mocked leading into this election the way that they
have been mocked. They used to throttle their I mean,
people don't even realize how specific Twitter had an army
of people, you know what they were doing. We talked
about them as left wing activists. They were always putting
their thumb on the scale for what they believe. That's
what their job actually was. Eighty percent of people from
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Twitter that Elon fired. We're making sure that you saw
less of my tweets, less of Clay's tweets, and less
of you know, all of our fellow conservatives and they're
gone now.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Also really important like we're mocking this guy talking about
how there needs to be a feminist version of Joe Rogan.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Men.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
This is important, and I don't hear a lot of
people saying it. Men being strong doesn't mean women have
to be weak. Both men and women can be strong. Buck,
you and I both have super smart, opinionated wives. Most
strong men that I know don't want a weak woman
to be a partner with because you just don't want
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to like not be challenged. Right, Like, it's like men
we're not in opposition. Does that make sense? Like, it's
it's crazy to me this conceit that if men are strong,
it means women have to be weak.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's actually not true at all. I mean it's like.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Clay, there's a dominance hierarchy and you just you embrace
it and you understand.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That you know you better let you well be strong.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But this might be your best impression, honestly. I mean,
I think there are people who are just tuning in
right now that think that Jordan Peterson is co hosting
with me today. That is that is really good. It
is funny to me, Buck and I like Jordan Peterson.
He's super smart. Obviously the guy, he's a great dude.
But I am telling you I've met him six times
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and he has no idea who I am. I mean,
I've set on shows with him, We've had him on
this show, like no earthly idea who I am, which
I actually respect.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
He sat down next to me at dinner and he's like, oh.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
It's nice to sit next to Tucker Carson.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Again.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I I respect that he had no clue who I was,
despite the fact that we met five or six times.
But every time I meet him, the idea that they
have tried to turn him him, of all people, into
some like dark vampire like character that is rating the
souls of American men is just one of the craziest
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things all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We also, we have a feminist Jordan Peterson Pickham, Tim Walls,
Mark Cuban, Like we have people that try to walk
this walk of speaking to guys but doing it as
a male feminist, and there is an inherent contradiction here.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It does not work.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This notion that there is a feminist Joe Rogan that
is just waiting to be created is absurd. It's as
absurd as men can get pregnant. Because you're talking about
to counter. The reason Joe Rogan appeals is because he
is a bro who talks to dudes in a way
that dudes talk about things that they like. And you know,
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there's a connection there with his with his male line,
but a lot of women list them too, But there's
a connects with the male audience, right, the notion that
you can undo that and have the same kind of
audience in.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Effect, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's it's why they're losing and losing so bad because
their solution to a problem, which they at least acknowledge
based on the election results, actually leads to a bigger problem.
And ultimately we've got some more clips from them too.
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I think they are just in complete denial about what
the real world is. And Buck, this is what I've
said for a long time. College football fans saved America.
I really do believe that's true. But you pointed out,
like I trust college football fans more than non because ultimately,
college football fans, I believe are the heartbeat of American
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normalcy in the country, and the idea that Tim Walls
walking around in a camo hat with his exaggerated gesticulating
hand gestures and awkward, weird body movements and everything else.
People were going to be like, Oh, that's my guy.
I really connected with him. Again, I think it goes
to they did recognize that Kamala had a problem with men.
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The problem is they have no one who actually understands men.
And Tim Walls is the kind of guy you would
pick if a woman were picking a guy to try
to appeal to men's that's him.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's so that's where you end up.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm just gonna tell you we have so much fun
today because, first of all, I saw a bunch of
friends last night down here in Florida. We're all talking
about people who are in this realm. You know some
of them, you know, Carol Markowitz and others, and at
Leasa booth and we were talking of Dave Rubin about
how this administration is going to be coming together and
it is looking so good. So we're gonna spend a
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lot of time on that. But we are still in
Victory week. It is a Friday. It is a great
time to be an American. And I'm these meltdowns and
these cry fests that these libs are having, Clay, We're
not gonna be able to enjoy this in two weeks, folks,
We're going to be focused on saving the country and policy.
So I'm just saying today we'll get to some real stuff,
but we're gonna have some fun with the silliness because
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they're having while we are having Celebrate America Week, Democrats
are having crime a river and drink a lot of
soy milk week. And it's very sad for them, but
very fun for us. So expect expect more of this
to be coming your way. You know where I'm going
to morrow, everybody the gun range, going out there, going
to be testing my skills this time around when I'm
shooting steel and trying to hit them all down. Whatever
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it is, seven shots in a row. I'm not going
to just with on the last one. Some of you
saw that video I posted. I'm going to get it
dialed in, and you know why, the Mantis X system.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I've got it here.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
When I'm done with the show today, I'm going to
go safe spot in my house, make sure my weapon
is clear and safe, set up my Mantis X, and
then train with it. And then when I get off
to the range tomorrow, my trigger pull is going to
be better. My side alignment's going to be steadier, and
I'm going to be making those groups happen much tighter
than if I just went out there and like, oh
I remember how to shoot. Mantis x is amazing this way.
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And actually when you'd use it and you go to
the range, and then if just to try to compare,
you go to the range after not using it the
day before, you're just going to see a difference. Mantisx
dot com dry fire training for your pistol, for your
long gun used by people the military, I mean, the
Big two A community guys. You'll see some of them
in on YouTube. They'll talk about this training system too.
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It's just so effective and it's really fun. You get
better all the time with it. Twenty minutes is all
it takes for first time users to see real obvious improvement.
Go to mantisx dot com to improve your shooting accuracy
m an tis x dot com. We're having a fun
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Friday here and diving into just how they're trying to
how they're trying to make sense of this, Like, look,
this is part of the fun. This is part of
the victory celebration is looking at your opponents as they
just engage in this group therapy session and kind of
political circular firing squad. We haven't even gotten into the
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best stuff yet about who's really to blame Kamala or Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Kamala or Joe. That's gonna be fun because.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
They're going to see more of that, and the reason
it matters to them is because whoever gets more of
the blame, there are people around those two candidates who
will either go forward in their kind of elevated roles
with the party or who will be part of the
collateral damage. Right, That's how this works. Who's responsible for
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the absolute butt kicking that the Democrats took here? Now,
as we know, it's much broader even than Biden or Kamala.
The Democrat Party completely lost its mind somehow with twenty
twenty somehow. And I'm just gonna say, you know, you
know there's some stuff out there folks about twenty twenty. Now,
you know, you know what I want to say about this, Clay,
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I don't want to speculate too much.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We need and we know.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Look, the good news is we have the phone numbers
and contacts, you know, with with all the different Trump people,
and you know, you know, between Hannity and all these
other great friends of ours on the radio world and
TV world. There's going to be a lot of connectivity
between this administration and your favorite conservative hosts, and so
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we'll be able to remind them of things like, Hey,
I think there should be an election integrity like task
force assigned to really get the data. I need an
explanation for where those from our own side. I don't
want an explanation from like the Kamala Biden apparatus. I
want our own side to be able to look into
this and explain where these thirteen million.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Votes or whatever it is disappeared to.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The numbers are still coming in, but Kamala Harris is
going to be eight nine million votes behind what Joe
Biden got in twenty twenty, and Joe Biden's numbers were
off the charts. Meanwhile, Trump is going to exceed the
numbers that he got in twenty twenty, but by two
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or three million, right, which will be the second most
votes that have ever been obtained in an American presidential election.
I think a lot of people are going to go
back now that we get twenty twenty four, and they're
going to go back and they're going to look at
twenty twenty and say, how in the world did Biden
manage to get eighty one million votes? How did he
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exceed Hillary Clinton by fifteen million? How did he exceed
Barack Obama's high water mark by twelve million? How did
he exceed this Trump landslide by eight or nine million?
Potentially like these are or five or six million. These
are real questions that an honest country would be asking
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in the wake of twenty twenty four. Now they're important
questions too.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh yes.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I would also put out there that the so
far the after action report the Democrats are doing on
their own loss, other than the crying on comedy.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Show, it's just hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, we can sit here and say it's all
funny to you because I can promise you with one
hundred percent certainty, not that you need it, you already
know this. Donald Trump is not a fascist. It's actually
a really nice guy. If anything, he can be kind
of too nice, and in the past at least only
two trusting I think of some of the people around him.
But Donald Trump's a really nice guy. He's not nice
guy is not really the White way to put it.
I think he's a fundamentally I think he's a fundamentally
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good person who care. You know, nice can be a
little like ah, you know, like maybe Brian Stelter is nice.
But I think that Donald Trump is at his core.
I mean, look at his family, look at the people
around him. He's a good person. He's not going to
do any of these horrible things they think is going
to happen. He didn't do it the first time, He's
not going to do it this time. So this is
why it's all mockery, right, This is why they deserve it,
because they're hysterical for no reason. You know, if they
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were hysterical over something that was actually going to happen,
that's a different thing. Here's PBS's White House correspondent, by
the way, Clay blaming that Kamala Harris loss on the
right wing media ecosystem that I mean, you just got
to hear this analysis play for.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Maybe it's not so much democrats policies are messaging or
the words that they use specifically, but there is an
entire right wing media ecosystem doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
On the left, does not exist.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
In the center or mainstream, and people are getting their
information in very different ways now. And Donald Trump and
Republicans and Elon Musk and Joe Rogan know exactly how
to reach Americans where they are, regardless of age and
demographic and that played a big role in this because
of the fact of like that whether it was disinformation,
misinformation or different propaganda that they were feeding to the
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American public that made them feel the way they did,
and the American public felt as though that that that
they were being heard by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The shorter version is we have given people access to
the truth now in a way that they didn't have
when PBS mattered. I some of this is crazy to me.
I don't know what world you can live in and
think that the media is too biased to the right
and that the left doesn't have a massive ecosystem that
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is an amazingly effective echo chamber at getting out whatever
stories they want.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It was just a week ago buck that their closing
argument was Trump said he was going to put Liz
Cheney in front of a firing squad and murder her
because she disagrees with him politically. It was just a
little over a week ago that they said a joke
from a Puerto Rica, a Puerto Rico joke from an
insult comedian was going to swing the election. They have
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the ability, with the New York Times and the Washington
Post to impact elite discussion on a level that does
not exist on the right in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And this is important.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
If I were out there and you said, Clay, where
do you think there is an opportunity to create a
new media outlet, I would say the Wall Street Journal
doesn't count. There's actually a huge marketplace out there for
an incredibly smart, right of center daily news organization that
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would go head to head with the New York Times
and the Washington Post because there is no functional equivalent
right now. I know there are competing outlets, and I'm
not trying to demean any of them, but nobody in
written space has anywhere near the power of the New
York Times or the Washington Post. Now Fox News obviously
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far bigger than MSNBC or CNN.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
This show is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't even know what the left leaning version of
this show would be, but we have to fulfill a
marketplace like the reason this show works because Rush built
a huge audience.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We've maintained and grown it in many ways.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Uh, and that's because there's a huge market for what
we're saying because it's not being served elsewhere. But if
you told me, hey, Clay, where's the media environment opportunity
in terms of impacting policy in a massive way, I
would say, to create a competitor for the New York
Times and the Washington.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Post that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think probably the New York Post is the most
successful newspaper that And I say newspaper because everything's online,
not because I'm trying to insult newspapers. But it's not
very similar. It's a tabloid. It's not really the same
aspiration as what the Times in the Post have done.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I want to say, caller Jim in Minnesota here, it's
got some sports ball talk that I think will help
illuminate what's going on. Jim, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Hey, my pleasure. Thank you guys for all that you're doing.
I think you guys had a big, huge part in
Tuesday's outcome. Real quick. The left is like the football
coach who's getting blown out in the first half. They
go into the locker room and they come out and
they don't change anything, you know, and they wonder why
they lose. And if I'm the coach on the other side,
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I'd be like, hey, guys, keep going, You're you're almost there.
You're just a little more radical, and you'd have brought
the ship in, you know. And I'm like, keep it up,
you guys, keep it up, because you just might cause
more election results like we had on Tuesday in the future.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So thank you. I'm stunned by this, buck.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
The lack of this is what I say when you
stare at stand in front of the mirror, the lack
of self reflection and acknowledgment of creating the own landslide
that you did.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I thought they would be in denial.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I didn't think that some people out there would say, Hey,
the way to handle this is actually we need to
go further to the left, which is what they're arguing.
Or the reason why this happened is because Hispanic people
are now the I guess brown faces of white supremacy.
Remember when they called Larry Elder the La Times did
the black face of white supremacy. Maybe people are responding
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to you. This is what Sonny Hostin said, Oh, all
those voters down on the border in Texas, the reason
they didn't vote for Kamala Harris is because they're misogynists
and then Bill Malugin I saw shared Actually they overwhelmingly
voted for Hillary Clinton eight years ago. Maybe what you're
selling everybody is actually hearing and they think it stinks
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and they don't want to support it. And I'm evidence
of this buck because I left, I was just like,
I can't I can't count this this anymore. I can't
like sit around and argue that men should be able
to compete against women. I'm not willing to take the
poison pill here and just go off the deep end
to follow deer leader down the crazy rabbit hole of
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their insanity.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
One of the things that if you if you pick
up a true believer, I mentioned it the era Eric
Hoffer's uh political analysis work from uh you know, from
time time past. There's also Gustave Lebon who's a French
political social scientist, and they talk about the role of
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chance and and shouting slogans in a crowd. This is
this is sort of why you'll see this right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know, whose streets are streets?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know that was the Occupy Wall Street thing. You know,
No Justice, no Peace is a big one for the
social justice movement. And what you find is that people,
by the way communists are very big on try I
mean true communists, right, like communist parties around the world
and throughout history, Clay. They're very big on slogans and
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jargon because it's actually a way around, it's a short
circuit to thinking. So the way that that comes up
in the Trump context is, you know, January sixth, they
you know, the insurrection, Trump is a fascist. These become
these reflexive argument ending short circuits to actual thinking, and
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the Democrat Party embrace this wholesale. And it's that's because
of that you don't even have them engaging on things
like are you really okay with ten million illegals pouring
into the country in four years? Like do you think
that this is a good thing?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You think that this makes it? If you are okay
with it, then why do we have an immigration service?
Why do we have immigration laws?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Why? You know, can can anyone come here? I are
their borders in any way? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So what happened is that because they have the jargon
and the slogans, they never actually have to get to
the substance in their thinking, and it keeps them on
a perpetual offense. They are the mob in the street
chanting nonsense. You're never gonna argue with them. Right when
someone's saying no justice, no peace, that just doesn't mean anything.
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It just means shut up, we're here, we're mobilized. That
was the Democrats going into this election. Well, and I
think we've seen two examples of articulate attacks on their
vapid slogans. One was Ron DeSantis against Gavin Newsom in
the Sean Hannity debate, where Gavin Newsom got destroyed, I'd
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say the other one.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The other one was Tim Walls trying to go toe
to toe with JD Vance and just getting obliterated. But
that's rare, right to our point. We've talked about this
on the show. You did it with Bill Maher. There's
almost no cross exchange of ideas anymore. I was thinking
about this, like, do I want to just start going
on CNN. Kind of been inspired by our now band friend.
(28:07):
I kind of want to join the band group Clay
you Ryan, you know, banned from CNN. I want to
go on there and just be like, look, if you
guys want to discuss something, I'll be respectful until they're not,
and then it's just going to be on and they're
gonna be libs crying. I've thought about this now because
I do think there's an opening now to take the
take the debate and go on off you know, to
the other side and go on offense. So we'll see
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light us up with some calls here too, my friends.
Eight hundred two eight two two eight a two, and
remember Julie Kelly gonna join us.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Going to get into the more serious.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Policy driven and justice issues here coming up about J
six is is Trump gonna do a lot for the
J six political prisoners? I mean, if you're sitting in
a federal prison because you trespassed on federal property, that's outrageous.
And there are people for whom that is their life
right now, and lives have been ruined over this, and
it's because of the Jack Smiths and the Adam Shipps
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and the lunatic brigade of anti Trump. Is there going
to be some some justice done. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 2 (30:06):
We begin the hour with our good friend Julie Kelly,
who has been.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
On top of jan six, Jack Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Everything else for years now coming on to talk about
all of this with us. But I just want to
start with this, Julie, how much did you enjoy Tuesday Night?
Was there a moment that for you was like the
apex of happiness. I know we've joked before about what
having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
(30:35):
I hope you've thought about that idea at least once
as all the returns were coming in. Do you still
just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile
on your face?
Speaker 9 (30:44):
Totally? Clay and I did repost our conversation from a
few months ago when you said, wouldn't you love to
have a camera in the room when Trump won a
camera on Jack Smith? I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I
woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth ers,
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knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them.
And then, you know, as the night progressed and the
returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay
Sixer started to text me, uh, and I think it
was just like later that night realizing, Wow, the good
the good guys when I think it was like one
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one o'clock or so, the good guys won, the bad
guys lost are going to face repercussions, which of course
I will happily work on. And then, most importantly, the
burden lifted off of J sixers, knowing that there's hope
for them, relief around the corner, and exoneration at the
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very least, claim buff their own government not referring to
them as domestic terrorists anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Julie, can you just for everybody you know we've had,
you want a lot to talk about the J six defendants,
give a sense because you know, the media and a
lot of the media that I'm talking about those who
listen to Austin who are part of our extended radio
family here don't pay attention to. But for a lot
of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this violence,
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and only the most serious people have faced any you know,
serious crimes, have faced any consequests from January sixth. Some
of the people who are who have or are serving
prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses,
include what like tell us some of those stories so
people can really know this is what was done to them,
and this is how unjust it was.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four
common misdemeanors that the government that this DOJ has brought
against J six ers for the very first time. Early
on the Chief Judge Beryl Howel, this shameless Trump leater.
She overthought Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe and then ran
the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA
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sixth prosecution, she openly seven court, we never deal with
Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly what
they've been doing. So they more than I think seven
hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors applied to them.
And this is parading in the Capitol, this is being
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on restricted grounds where a Secret Service protectee is disorder
the conduct on capital grounds just being there even have
to engage in disorderly conducts, So there are four common misdemeanors. Nonetheless,
these people were tormented by the j dragged TODC for
core proceedings and in almost every case claim bucks faced
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some sort of prison times, whether it was thirty days
or some met Some were sentenced to the maximum number
of months, which is twelve months for these misdemeanors, and
they were thrown in federal prison for this. So that
to me is the lowest king fruit that I think
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is something that the President can sign up on day
one is immediate pardons for all of them, the misdimunit cases.
Then you get into trickier areas well, as you know,
the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this, the Supreme
Court overturned how the DOJ unlawfully applied fifteen twelve c
to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was the post
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on run tampering with evidence and documents that you also
used for the very first time in J six cases.
More than three hundred J sixers charged with that selony,
so that has been overturned. Many defendants have gone to
court speaking that to have that conviction, whether they pleaded
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guilty or were convicted at trial, to have those convictions vacated.
So all of those individuals should easily be pardoned in
the any existing indictment strap into trickier areas. Assault on police, right,
they're a handful of those cases that really need to
be closely examined where there really was violence involved. But
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for the most part, even those charged and convicted with
assaulting or interfering with police that's the statute assault interfering
in inhibiting law enforcement. This could be to someone who
yelled at a police officer, who touched a riot shield,
who threw a water bottle towards police lines, And we
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see things like that all the time in protests. Correct,
We thought certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but
they were never charged with this federal statute. So we
need to look more closely. I think that will be
the sickier area, the grayer area as to where pardons
should apply, even the most egregious cases, their sentences should
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be commuted. You have a man, Julie Cater, who has
been in prison since March of twenty twenty one his arrest.
He was one of two of the fall guys for
the death of Brian's sickness, claiming that because he was
hit with pepper spray that that's how he died of
a stroke the next day. Doing Cater arrested on an
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airplane in New Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused
of spraying Brian Signick with a small thing of pepper spray.
He languished in the DC Dulag awaiting trial. He was
tormented for almost two years before he accepted a previo.
Then he was sentenced to seven years in federal prison.
That is there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction,
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let alone in Washington DC. Those are the sort of
cases that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and
freeing these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere
to the sentences that they've received.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's
been covering the jan sixth k is the Jack Smith
prosecutions the lawfair against Trump in general with US now
for years. I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was,
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,
(37:15):
Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is
the latest on these cases? And where should it go
from here? Let me ask you like broad question, if
you know, if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should
we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you
suggest Republicans coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator?
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Where should this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised
by how quickly all of this house of cards collapsed?
Speaker 9 (37:44):
Yes? I am so. Number one the Florida Document's case,
as you know. Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July
based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ
and Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what
we're expecting now is that Jack Smith will pull back
that appeal, drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands,
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which is very interesting as to how it will affect
future Special Councils. Number two. I will admit I'm surprised
that Jack Smith and the DJ is dropping the Washington
case so quickly because Judge Chuckkin on October twenty eighth,
a few days before the election, set deadlines in that
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case into mid and late December. She wanted to drag
this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won.
I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue
to pursue those deadlines. Those motions have one more court
perance right to drag out all this evidence before Judge
Chuck hints. I really thought that they were going to
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hold that to the last minute even if Donald Trump won.
That is not the case. So it does look like
this loss there really has backfired. Now. You saw Jim
Jordan today letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee.
He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,
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evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,
this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got
a piece on my substant you classified with the Lutelli
that spells out the prosebatorial of use and misconduct in
both of those cases, especially the Florida case where you
guys know, I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering
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first him what was happening there, and the revelations about
you know, the mar Lago armed graves where agents violated
even the very broad terms of that search warrant. There
are accusations of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in
that case, threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a
close aid personal aids of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt,
(39:53):
who was one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully
him and threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and
becoming government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality
in the Special Counsel's office, not just Jack Smith, but
his prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident
(40:14):
from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases, and also, guys,
as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least
fifty million dollars two years of this investigation, millions and
contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white shoe law firms,
but also more than eleven million dollars in salaries and benefits.
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And this was just the first fourteen months. By the way,
this is probably topping twenty million dollars just in salaries
and benefits because he's way behind in his obligated required
financial reporting. All of his expenses, including his personal protective details.
Every single dollar must be accounted for, because I want
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to see where those content truck went and who those
employees were, and how they spent so much money and
then at the end time to be handed.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her sub stack. You
want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,
you're in contact with both the Trump side of this
equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.
Just just what's it like for them to know that? Well,
how much do we know at this point? I mean,
my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be
(41:31):
sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.
What can you tell us about where this is going?
Speaker 9 (41:38):
I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages
from attorneys from Jay sixers and their loved ones, so
relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work
really begins. So it's just you know, putting together the pieces.
I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to
the part in commutation projects. Whoever, his new Attorney General
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will be particularly in asking DCUs attorney where all these
cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately, on
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, shut down what the Mayor
Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves coj refers to as the
Capital Siege Investigation. The entire unit must be shut down
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on January twentieth. Any existing indictments, you guys, they arrested
a man from Georgia on election day, a key swing state.
The FBI counter Terrorism task for arresting a man for
his participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege Division must
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be shut down immediately and then address the cases that
have already been litigated, the convictions, the pree deals, and
those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing these judges, by
the way, BC are still moving these cases forwards. I
heard from a JACA for the other day who said
his trial date has just been set for January ninth.
(43:04):
These judges are not giving this up because they will
have nothing else to do after January twentieth. You could
go to that court tacket any day of the week.
Seventy five percent of the cases before those judges relate
to January sixth. I have no idea what they're going
to do after January twentieth. I do have an idea though.
Some of them should be impeached, some of them should retire.
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Quite frankly, the entire DC federal court system should be
shut down after what they've done to these individuals, broke
the law, overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some
cases by the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not
match the law, after the egregious misconduct in that courthouse,
it should be completely shut down.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Julie Kelly, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the
j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've
done on this topic. And as we get more to
the action phase, of this where people will get the
clemency that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
We will be talking to you more about it. Thanks
so much for being here.
Speaker 9 (44:06):
I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you
so much for covering my work.
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We mentioned this, but it is worth repeating.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
The election counting is still freaking going on, and as
we are all talking to you, there are still counting
of votes going on. We should mention, by the way,
before positive Dave McCormick yesterday was declared the winner in
Pennsylvania by the AP. Right after we went off the air,
(46:50):
Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey, things look
really good. Here, here's the latest. So they are trying
to fight against it. But Dave McCormick is going to
win Pennsylvania. He presently has as they continue to count.
I'm bad at Mathbuck, but about a thirty six thousand
vote lead, and that is a very comfortable lead that
(47:13):
he has as basically all the votes are in huge
win to flip Pennsylvania. But Arizona counting is still going
on and Carrie Lake, with about twenty three percent of
the vote out, keeps adding on votes and she is
now only down about thirty eight thousand in Arizona. With
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as many as forty four hundred thousand votes still to
be counted there, and Trump is winning Arizona by a
large margin.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Buck, it may end up.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
In fact, I think it is going to end up
of the quote unquote battleground states. Trump's now up six
in Arizona with about seventy five percent of the vote
in Now, this should never be allowed to continue. Also,
in the Senate race in Nevada, it's been going back
and forth Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown down about fifteen
(48:09):
thousand votes in that one. Trump has won both Nevada
and Arizona in the presidential race. But the fact that
we're still sitting here talking about counting going on as
we head into the weekend. According to the New York Times,
only fifty eight percent of the vote buck in California
has been counted, fifty eight percent. We counted votes faster
(48:33):
back in the eighteen hundreds than we do now. Now,
with that in mind, in the House, I want to
update you Republicans have the lead in let's see nineteen.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Twenty, twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
If I were betting right now, I would say that
Republicans are going to end up with two hundred and
twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats, which
is very similar to the margin right now it's two
eighteen for House control. But one reason we don't have
that control officially decided is because California and Arizona are
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dragging on their count to such an extent that we
still don't have definitive answers from many of those House
districts out there. Frankly, it's unacceptable that we could be
in this position, but I wanted to make sure that
we mentioned that those counts are still going on as
we head into the weekend. And also, ad Buck, it's
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not inconceivable that the election for president could have come
down to Arizona and Nevada and we could all still
be sitting here multiple days later uncertain as to who
is going to be the president of.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
The United States. This has to get fixed.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for
both sides to see that this is unacceptable. You know,
California is a one party state and that's a warning
to all of us. They took over one of the
most beautiful places in the world that have turned it
into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's still beautiful. Look, I still love California.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
We got I think we have more listeners play in
Texas than any other state, but I think California is
number two just in terms of over So we can
look at this in the digital more than we can
easily on the on the radio side. But we got
a lot of listeners or in the California or California area,
in the state of California, just because it's such a
huge state and there are a lot of Republicans there.
(50:32):
So I don't know what has to happen for them
to see that this is unacceptable because it starts to
look like one side just doesn't want to fix it.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
And I get that.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
I know people are thinking to themselves like, well, there's
one side that doesn't want voter ID and there's one
side that does.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I know.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
So this is how we put the pressure on. We say, hey, guys,
Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled
what were they? What were the other was the other
thing that was the chads and the something others? There
was another term that came out right for the Florida
two times. Yeah, the indentations.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
But there was a phrase for dimple chads, like to
what extent had did a punch ballot count like for
people who didn't live through that, It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I don't understand. Why can they not just every state
copy what Florida does. I was going to ask the
same question. That's what I mean. They Florida. It's like
they know that got them. It's rock solid done, you know,
and and I and they did this because of what
was going on. For these other states. It just makes theirs,
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It makes their governance look like it is absurd and lacking,
and it's just not.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
A good whatever partisan basis you have, Democrat, Republican, Independent,
it's not a good look for election counting to go
on for multiple days. We need finality, we need definity.
Uh And to me, like a clear result should be
something that everybody once as rapidly as we possibly can.
(52:02):
And if Florida can count in a state of twenty
million plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the
polls closing, how in the world can every other state
not just copy what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Maybe somebody from California GOP can let us know where
the where the roadblock is on this one or why
this can't seem to get fixed? So yeah, no, I
think I think McCormick's looking good. It is going to
be very tight there for Kerry Lake at the end.
I know we don't have to fit when do we do?
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We know when? We will know when the house is
done and over with one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
We don't right it could I mean we've got it,
I think if you look at the returns and the
percentages and everything else. But I don't think it'll be
till next week. At some point, Buck, let's have some fun.
I was gonna say, I know we're finishing out the week.
It's been so much fun. I've got two different clips
of incredibly arrogant libs saying that they were going to win.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
The first one.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
I just want to play it again because I think
it's my favorite clip that we have ever played. This
is doctor Arlene telling the story of how.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
She berated it again.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I want to play it again because in case you
missed it, and then we've got another one that's good.
This is her berating a liquor store maga clerk, who
I really want to hear from. I would love if
people could track this guy down as she was buying
her champagne about how the women of America we're going
to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
We played it yesterday, you guys loved it. Here she
is listen to cut two.
Speaker 10 (53:31):
We're closing in on almost five pm Eastern time. And
I've been trucking everything that's been going on across the
country today, and my most important encounter was when I
went out to get my champagne. I was talking to
the guy in the store, of course, asking him did
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he vote, and he said he did early voting, and
he asked me if I early voted, and he asked me.
You know why I was getting the champagne, and I said,
because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight. And
he just looked at me with kind of like a
smirk on his face, and I said, you know she's
going to win this, right He said, oh, well, it's
(54:12):
very very close. And I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Says well, what do you mean.
Speaker 10 (54:15):
I said, no, it's not. The women of America are
making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all
comes down to, and the women are voting in numbers
relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And
I said to him, she's going to take every one
of the swing states plus O plus Iowa. And he said, oh,
but the numbers are so close. I said, I'm a
(54:36):
political analyst. I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.
She's taking this election.
Speaker 11 (54:42):
I've said to him, you realize And he didn't tell
me who he voted for, but of course I knew,
and I said, you do realize you wasted your vote, right,
And I didn't care.
Speaker 10 (54:54):
And I walked out with my bottle of champagne and
happily walked home.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
And what.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
I can't get enough of this video, Buck. I watched
it five times yesterday, just sitting laughing uproariously at this arrogant,
totally wrong woman who was lecturing a guy working in
a liquor store about how she was a political analyst
and an expert and the women were turning out unbelievable
numbers and they're gonna win Iowa. They lost Iowa by fourteen,
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by the way. The Kammalins camp. My favorite part.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Of that is the well, I am a political analyst,
like oh, in that.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Case, I guess discussion about anything, and then I wanted
to play this because we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
These people who are the anti Trump Republicans. I actually
even heard Jinsaki going off on them on MSNBC, like,
we give them way too much attention, we give them
way too much credence.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Nobody cares about them.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, you think all of us were saying, Hey, the
idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage, and
somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to
vote for you. Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
This guy has raised hundreds of millions of dollars to
claim that he is a Republican who is opposed to Trump.
Here was what he said on election Day about how
bad Trump was gonna get beat. He was wrong about
all of it. But I want you to remember this
whenever you see these guys getting trumpeted out there as
if there's some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence.
(56:28):
Listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in the election.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
Everybody. Number one, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly.
He's he's gonna be wrecked. I don't know what the
Electoral College account's going to be at the end of this,
but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna get hard
for him. Their panic is extraordinary. Their events in Georgia
and North Carolina are basically about as well attend That
(56:55):
is a Pokemon card trading convention in ass Crack, Alabama.
This is a campaign in freeform. It's really really dumb. Yeah,
you've got a campaign ending in chaos, and you got
another campaign that was able to deploy ninety thousand volunteers
to knock on three million doors. Guys, the better campaign
(57:15):
is going to win this one.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong. Do you
know about him?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
You know, like his past, I know, I've known him
for I've known him for not I don't know him,
but like I've been aware of him for years.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
I've met him once or twice.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
He's a Republican play or I know, I know your
Redican Project people are I mean, they flipped. Yeah, he says,
he says he's a Republican, and it's not possible to
be more wrong than that, and to be so smug.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
I mean, look, we took a little risk in being
so definitive that Trump was going to win the election.
I mean, if we had been wrong, we would have
taken our lumps, you know. But we were right, you
know what I mean. And you know, people like this
and that plotal analyst lady, I'm a political analyst. They
(58:05):
I'm sorry, man, you couldn't if we held the contest
for the most annoying Kamala voter in.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
The country, they couldn't beat that woman. That she she
is number one, perfect, She's the champion. Give her the belt.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
She's perfect. And look, we were hyper rational on this show.
We looked at all the early voting numbers. I went
into them all the time, analyzed them, and we nailed it.
We got every single thing right. There were lots of
signs out there, and I get it was close. It
was it's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine
your victory or defeat. I mean, that's the America we
(58:41):
live in right now. But to think that they were
gonna win Iowa, I mean, you have to be utterly
delusional to it. Bought into that an Seltzer poll in
Iowa and even for her, like her career is over.
How could you ever trust somebody again based on being
that utterly wrong. That's one of the things that I
(59:04):
think is maybe the lesson for me. MSNBC buck has
been wrong on everything, Russia, collusion, masking, COVID shots, Trump,
going to jail. I mean, you can run through basically
every major issue that has happened in the last seven
or eight years, by and large, and they've.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Been wrong on all of it.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Why do people keep showing up and watching a program
where they're being told things that they are going to
be objectively wrong. I'm curious whether MSNBC's ratings will actually
fall because how could you trust those people when they
told you, oh, Kamala is running a great campaign, Joe
Biden's fit as sharp as attack behind closed doors. They
lied to you for years, regardless of what your politics are,
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and you're going to keep showing up and letting them continue.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
To lie to you.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
I just if you find out that you've been lied to,
you should change the media.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
I think that you consume.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I mean that seems like a rational thing to me,
and I think that's one reason the mainstream quote unquote
mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent. We almost
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We were about twenty yards off from a ten to
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one payout. Could have been a perfect week. Trump wins
and we went on the ten to one. But you
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Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
My name Clay
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast O.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I just keep smiling, Buck.
I know many of you out there all over the
country and around the world feel the same way that
I do. I just find myself unable to put down
my phone as the fallout from Trump's massive nationwide victory
(00:30):
three hundred and twelve electoral votes continues to absolutely drive
everyone on the left utterly insane. And there are so
many great clips that we have pulled for you today
where we can basically tap dance through the refuse of
these individuals broken brains, and I think you guys are
(00:51):
going to very much enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I watched the woman bragging about buying champagne that we
played yesterday. Buck, I bet I've watched the video five times.
I can't. I can't stop watching it. Every time I
watch it, it gets better and better. We may need
to play that again today for people who might have
missed it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I just love being able to send it to friends
and bring them a few minutes of untrammeled, you know,
pure joy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's funny because I actually think she's so utterly perfectly
representative of a Kamala voter. And there's funny. I don't
even know if you saw this. Buck, Tulane women's basketball
coach some of this stuff, wore a Kamala Harris T shirt,
which I honestly did not know exist, on the sideline
(01:38):
for her women's basketball coaching debut and lost.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
She wore the T shirt on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm like, these people's brains are just so broken that
they can't comprehend how bad they lost, because I think
they really thought that they were going to win a
landslide election and that Trump was going to be soundly
and completely defeated. And they don't even know how to respond.
And I I saw this, and what's I want to
(02:07):
make sure I get this guy's name right. I don't
even know if you've seen this yet, Buck, but on
MSNBC Morning Joe, you may have seen it this morning
as you watched Morning Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Which are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
My friend, mister Jurordardis Dardis. I'm not sure what this guy.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm looking it up because I've never even heard of
him before, Yes, columnist, a non jurordardists Jurordardists.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, So they're having a discussion about how they've lost
young men massively, and they're talking about the impact of
all these different shows on young men, and he suggests
that what they really need to really kind of punch
back is a feminist version of Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I just can't even say it straight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
A feminist version of Joe Rogan to reach young men.
And and basically the argument Buck and I gotta be
care here some aphrase it. Basically, the argument is we
need to have shows where we prove to everyone that
we are even more of pussy willows than they thought
we were already pussy willows before.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But listen to this guy.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The way to get young men back in the Democrat
camp is a feminist version of This is what they're
This is This guy's dead serious. He's like, I've looked
at all the election results. We need a feminist version
of Joe Rogan. This is his answer. This is what
it sounds like on MSNBC if you're missing it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What they have done in their online media ecosystem is
build a radicalization engine. Literally, the way militant groups do
around the world that takes people from relatively low level
annoyances with the world. Why are eggs so expensive? Why
is my kid learning this new thing in American history
in school that I didn't learn, and then moves them
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through YouTube videos, through podcasts, moves them from that annoyance
all the way, slowly, slowly, slowly to a full blown
fascist politics. It's an elaborate, multi billion dollar infrastructure, and
there is nothing like it on the pro democracy side.
When a man is just lost and lonely and not
yet radicalized, we don't have the equivalent of Joe Rogan
(04:12):
and Jordan Peterson to move that man in a feminist direction.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I can't believe this is real. I watched this clip
this morning and I just couldn't stop laughing. First of all,
the guy's voice is even better without the image on television,
because he sounds like the perfect NPR guy. That anyone
who is under thirty and a man is just going
to be like this is insufferably annoying and boring. But
(04:36):
the idea that you could just feminize Joe Rogan and
everything would be great is so perfect.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
It's really what they need is a pronoun, announcing a pronoun,
announcing fellow, who's gonna come forward.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm just gonna tell everybody that's a really good Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was on the Daily Wires election night show sitting
next to Jordan Peterson. I met Jordan Peterson like five
or six times. Jordan Peterson has no idea who I am,
which is really very funny.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Buck. It's like, are you a man? Well, let's get
into that. Let's ask that question for a minute.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
You know, maybe you want to announce pronouns and cry
a lot in.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Your pillow because Kamala lost. He is such an unthreatening man.
Jordan Peterson super brilliant, right, super brilliant. But the idea
that people are like, oh, this is what a Nazi
sounds like is utterly insane. And I've seen this with
my own.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Boys, Buck, because it is true what he says, which
is mainstream media that is MSNBC and CNN do not
speak to young men at all. And they do because
I got three young men in my house. They do
go on YouTube and they find things. But I kind
of love it because, first of all, my middle son
is Buck, the ultimate bro. I mean, just like the
(05:56):
other day, he ordered something from TikTok. He's now on
TikTok and it got a package at the house. You'll
love this. And the package comes in and I'm like,
what did you order on TikTok And he's like, I've
got to get my forearms stronger, and so he has ordered.
Do you remember when you were in like high school,
like the bro, maybe the ultimate bro, like had the
kidding arm.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Strength the back of I had. I had guns and
Ammo magazine in high school. I had Maxim magazine in
high school. Yeah, I may or may not have bought
those electrodes that give you a six pack. Spoiler alert,
they do not give you a six pack I want.
I mean, he's funny about it. He's got a really
good sense of humor. But I said, what do you like.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He's like, well, when I'm in class and they're talking,
I can take notes with one hand and with the
other hand, I'm just gonna get really strong forearms so
I'm better at catching passes on the football. I'm telling
you that this is his logic, and I just I
can't stop laughing. But what they get out of the
YouTube thing Buck is actually I think it's like, stop whining.
(06:57):
This is what they're being told. This is what it's
so fun. Wine less, work harder, do more push ups.
This is what the male influencers on YouTube and TikTok
and everything else are teaching them. And I'm like, that's
kind of perfect advice, honestly for young men.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wine less, work harder, do push ups?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Is I mean that really has appealed to them.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'm gonna tell you something, Clay, the you're seeing I
think a massive change in the way the media going
forward is going to try to present some of these issues.
This whole anti masculine stuff. I'm not saying they're going
to abandon it, but they're going to become much more slick,
(07:41):
and they've become too bold, too obvious, too stupid.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
On these issues.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And the people that are now coming out, who are
they think they're playing to their audience and they are
by saying, you know, you know, we just need to
have male feminist Jordan Peterson's and male feminist Joe Rogan's,
which is hilarious because also what would that mean. I mean,
you think Joe Rogan's gonna come out and say, you know, yeah,
like I don't think that men are stronger than women.
(08:09):
You know, this whole thing is absurd, Like their argument
falls down right away. But I think that they recognize
this is a long term political liability. And some of
the voices that we've gotten used to hearing who say
very dumb things about all of this, I think they're
going to fade a bit or they're going to change
their tune on it, because this is just they've taken
(08:31):
too much of a shell Aki and they know now
that it's open season on these issues.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And because of X for example.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
McLay think about they would not have allowed people to
be mocked leading into this election the way that they
have been mocked. They used to throttle their I mean,
people don't even realize how specific Twitter had an army
of people, you know what they were doing. We talked
about them as left wing activists. They were always putting
their thumb on the scale for what they believe. That's
what their job actually was. Eighty percent of people from
(09:01):
Twitter that Elon fired. We're making sure that you saw
less of my tweets, less of Clay's tweets, and less
of you know, all of our fellow conservatives and they're
gone now.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Also really important like we're mocking this guy talking about
how there needs to be a feminist version of Joe Rogan.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Men.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
This is important, and I don't hear a lot of
people saying it. Men being strong doesn't mean women have
to be weak. Both men and women can be strong. Buck,
you and I both have super smart, opinionated wives. Most
strong men that I know don't want a weak woman
to be a partner with because you just don't want
(09:40):
to like not be challenged. Right, Like, it's like men
we're not in opposition. Does that make sense? Like, it's
it's crazy to me this conceit that if men are strong,
it means women have to be weak.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's actually not true at all. I mean it's like.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Clay, there's a dominance hierarchy and you just you embrace
it and you understand.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That you know you better let you well be strong.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But this might be your best impression, honestly. I mean,
I think there are people who are just tuning in
right now that think that Jordan Peterson is co hosting
with me today. That is that is really good. It
is funny to me, Buck and I like Jordan Peterson.
He's super smart. Obviously the guy, he's a great dude.
But I am telling you I've met him six times
(10:21):
and he has no idea who I am. I mean,
I've set on shows with him, We've had him on
this show, like no earthly idea who I am, which
I actually respect.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
He sat down next to me at dinner and he's like, oh.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
It's nice to sit next to Tucker Carson.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Again.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I I respect that he had no clue who I was,
despite the fact that we met five or six times.
But every time I meet him, the idea that they
have tried to turn him him, of all people, into
some like dark vampire like character that is rating the
souls of American men is just one of the craziest
(11:01):
things all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We also, we have a feminist Jordan Peterson Pickham, Tim Walls,
Mark Cuban, Like we have people that try to walk
this walk of speaking to guys but doing it as
a male feminist, and there is an inherent contradiction here.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It does not work.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This notion that there is a feminist Joe Rogan that
is just waiting to be created is absurd. It's as
absurd as men can get pregnant. Because you're talking about
to counter. The reason Joe Rogan appeals is because he
is a bro who talks to dudes in a way
that dudes talk about things that they like. And you know,
(11:45):
there's a connection there with his with his male line,
but a lot of women list them too, But there's
a connects with the male audience, right, the notion that
you can undo that and have the same kind of
audience in.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Effect, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's it's why they're losing and losing so bad because
their solution to a problem, which they at least acknowledge
based on the election results, actually leads to a bigger problem.
And ultimately we've got some more clips from them too.
(12:16):
I think they are just in complete denial about what
the real world is. And Buck, this is what I've
said for a long time. College football fans saved America.
I really do believe that's true. But you pointed out,
like I trust college football fans more than non because ultimately,
college football fans, I believe are the heartbeat of American
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normalcy in the country, and the idea that Tim Walls
walking around in a camo hat with his exaggerated gesticulating
hand gestures and awkward, weird body movements and everything else.
People were going to be like, Oh, that's my guy.
I really connected with him. Again, I think it goes
to they did recognize that Kamala had a problem with men.
(13:01):
The problem is they have no one who actually understands men.
And Tim Walls is the kind of guy you would
pick if a woman were picking a guy to try
to appeal to men's that's him.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's so that's where you end up.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm just gonna tell you we have so much fun
today because, first of all, I saw a bunch of
friends last night down here in Florida. We're all talking
about people who are in this realm. You know some
of them, you know, Carol Markowitz and others, and at
Leasa booth and we were talking of Dave Rubin about
how this administration is going to be coming together and
it is looking so good. So we're gonna spend a
(13:35):
lot of time on that. But we are still in
Victory week. It is a Friday. It is a great
time to be an American. And I'm these meltdowns and
these cry fests that these libs are having, Clay, We're
not gonna be able to enjoy this in two weeks, folks,
We're going to be focused on saving the country and policy.
So I'm just saying today we'll get to some real stuff,
but we're gonna have some fun with the silliness because
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they're having while we are having Celebrate America Week, Democrats
are having crime a river and drink a lot of
soy milk week. And it's very sad for them, but
very fun for us. So expect expect more of this
to be coming your way. You know where I'm going
to morrow, everybody the gun range, going out there, going
to be testing my skills this time around when I'm
shooting steel and trying to hit them all down. Whatever
(14:18):
it is, seven shots in a row. I'm not going
to just with on the last one. Some of you
saw that video I posted. I'm going to get it
dialed in, and you know why, the Mantis X system.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I've got it here.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
When I'm done with the show today, I'm going to
go safe spot in my house, make sure my weapon
is clear and safe, set up my Mantis X, and
then train with it. And then when I get off
to the range tomorrow, my trigger pull is going to
be better. My side alignment's going to be steadier, and
I'm going to be making those groups happen much tighter
than if I just went out there and like, oh
I remember how to shoot. Mantis x is amazing this way.
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And actually when you'd use it and you go to
the range, and then if just to try to compare,
you go to the range after not using it the
day before, you're just going to see a difference. Mantisx
dot com dry fire training for your pistol, for your
long gun used by people the military, I mean, the
Big two A community guys. You'll see some of them
in on YouTube. They'll talk about this training system too.
(15:11):
It's just so effective and it's really fun. You get
better all the time with it. Twenty minutes is all
it takes for first time users to see real obvious improvement.
Go to mantisx dot com to improve your shooting accuracy
m an tis x dot com. We're having a fun
(15:35):
Friday here and diving into just how they're trying to
how they're trying to make sense of this, Like, look,
this is part of the fun. This is part of
the victory celebration is looking at your opponents as they
just engage in this group therapy session and kind of
political circular firing squad. We haven't even gotten into the
(15:57):
best stuff yet about who's really to blame Kamala or Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Kamala or Joe. That's gonna be fun because.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
They're going to see more of that, and the reason
it matters to them is because whoever gets more of
the blame, there are people around those two candidates who
will either go forward in their kind of elevated roles
with the party or who will be part of the
collateral damage. Right, That's how this works. Who's responsible for
(16:24):
the absolute butt kicking that the Democrats took here? Now,
as we know, it's much broader even than Biden or Kamala.
The Democrat Party completely lost its mind somehow with twenty
twenty somehow. And I'm just gonna say, you know, you
know there's some stuff out there folks about twenty twenty. Now,
you know, you know what I want to say about this, Clay,
(16:46):
I don't want to speculate too much.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We need and we know.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Look, the good news is we have the phone numbers
and contacts, you know, with with all the different Trump people,
and you know, you know, between Hannity and all these
other great friends of ours on the radio world and
TV world. There's going to be a lot of connectivity
between this administration and your favorite conservative hosts, and so
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we'll be able to remind them of things like, Hey,
I think there should be an election integrity like task
force assigned to really get the data. I need an
explanation for where those from our own side. I don't
want an explanation from like the Kamala Biden apparatus. I
want our own side to be able to look into
this and explain where these thirteen million.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Votes or whatever it is disappeared to.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The numbers are still coming in, but Kamala Harris is
going to be eight nine million votes behind what Joe
Biden got in twenty twenty, and Joe Biden's numbers were
off the charts. Meanwhile, Trump is going to exceed the
numbers that he got in twenty twenty, but by two
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or three million, right, which will be the second most
votes that have ever been obtained in an American presidential election.
I think a lot of people are going to go
back now that we get twenty twenty four, and they're
going to go back and they're going to look at
twenty twenty and say, how in the world did Biden
manage to get eighty one million votes? How did he
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exceed Hillary Clinton by fifteen million? How did he exceed
Barack Obama's high water mark by twelve million? How did
he exceed this Trump landslide by eight or nine million?
Potentially like these are or five or six million. These
are real questions that an honest country would be asking
(18:37):
in the wake of twenty twenty four. Now they're important
questions too.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh yes.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I would also put out there that the so
far the after action report the Democrats are doing on
their own loss, other than the crying on comedy.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Show, it's just hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I mean, we can sit here and say it's all
funny to you because I can promise you with one
hundred percent certainty, not that you need it, you already
know this. Donald Trump is not a fascist. It's actually
a really nice guy. If anything, he can be kind
of too nice, and in the past at least only
two trusting I think of some of the people around him.
But Donald Trump's a really nice guy. He's not nice
guy is not really the White way to put it.
I think he's a fundamentally I think he's a fundamentally
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good person who care. You know, nice can be a
little like ah, you know, like maybe Brian Stelter is nice.
But I think that Donald Trump is at his core.
I mean, look at his family, look at the people
around him. He's a good person. He's not going to
do any of these horrible things they think is going
to happen. He didn't do it the first time, He's
not going to do it this time. So this is
why it's all mockery, right, This is why they deserve it,
because they're hysterical for no reason. You know, if they
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were hysterical over something that was actually going to happen,
that's a different thing. Here's PBS's White House correspondent, by
the way, Clay blaming that Kamala Harris loss on the
right wing media ecosystem that I mean, you just got
to hear this analysis play for.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Maybe it's not so much democrats policies are messaging or
the words that they use specifically, but there is an
entire right wing media ecosystem doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
On the left, does not exist.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
In the center or mainstream, and people are getting their
information in very different ways now. And Donald Trump and
Republicans and Elon Musk and Joe Rogan know exactly how
to reach Americans where they are, regardless of age and
demographic and that played a big role in this because
of the fact of like that whether it was disinformation,
misinformation or different propaganda that they were feeding to the
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American public that made them feel the way they did,
and the American public felt as though that that that
they were being heard by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The shorter version is we have given people access to
the truth now in a way that they didn't have
when PBS mattered. I some of this is crazy to me.
I don't know what world you can live in and
think that the media is too biased to the right
and that the left doesn't have a massive ecosystem that
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is an amazingly effective echo chamber at getting out whatever
stories they want.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It was just a week ago buck that their closing
argument was Trump said he was going to put Liz
Cheney in front of a firing squad and murder her
because she disagrees with him politically. It was just a
little over a week ago that they said a joke
from a Puerto Rica, a Puerto Rico joke from an
insult comedian was going to swing the election. They have
(21:31):
the ability, with the New York Times and the Washington
Post to impact elite discussion on a level that does
not exist on the right in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And this is important.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
If I were out there and you said, Clay, where
do you think there is an opportunity to create a
new media outlet, I would say the Wall Street Journal
doesn't count. There's actually a huge marketplace out there for
an incredibly smart, right of center daily news organization that
(22:03):
would go head to head with the New York Times
and the Washington Post because there is no functional equivalent
right now. I know there are competing outlets, and I'm
not trying to demean any of them, but nobody in
written space has anywhere near the power of the New
York Times or the Washington Post. Now Fox News obviously
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far bigger than MSNBC or CNN.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
This show is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't even know what the left leaning version of
this show would be, but we have to fulfill a
marketplace like the reason this show works because Rush built
a huge audience.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We've maintained and grown it in many ways.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Uh, and that's because there's a huge market for what
we're saying because it's not being served elsewhere. But if
you told me, hey, Clay, where's the media environment opportunity
in terms of impacting policy in a massive way, I
would say, to create a competitor for the New York
Times and the Washington.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Post that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think probably the New York Post is the most
successful newspaper that And I say newspaper because everything's online,
not because I'm trying to insult newspapers. But it's not
very similar. It's a tabloid. It's not really the same
aspiration as what the Times in the Post have done.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I want to say, caller Jim in Minnesota here, it's
got some sports ball talk that I think will help
illuminate what's going on. Jim, thank you for calling in.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Hey, my pleasure. Thank you guys for all that you're doing.
I think you guys had a big, huge part in
Tuesday's outcome. Real quick. The left is like the football
coach who's getting blown out in the first half. They
go into the locker room and they come out and
they don't change anything, you know, and they wonder why
they lose. And if I'm the coach on the other side,
(23:48):
I'd be like, hey, guys, keep going, You're you're almost there.
You're just a little more radical, and you'd have brought
the ship in, you know. And I'm like, keep it up,
you guys, keep it up, because you just might cause
more election results like we had on Tuesday in the future.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So thank you. I'm stunned by this, buck.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
The lack of this is what I say when you
stare at stand in front of the mirror, the lack
of self reflection and acknowledgment of creating the own landslide
that you did.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I thought they would be in denial.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I didn't think that some people out there would say, Hey,
the way to handle this is actually we need to
go further to the left, which is what they're arguing.
Or the reason why this happened is because Hispanic people
are now the I guess brown faces of white supremacy.
Remember when they called Larry Elder the La Times did
the black face of white supremacy. Maybe people are responding
(24:40):
to you. This is what Sonny Hostin said, Oh, all
those voters down on the border in Texas, the reason
they didn't vote for Kamala Harris is because they're misogynists
and then Bill Malugin I saw shared Actually they overwhelmingly
voted for Hillary Clinton eight years ago. Maybe what you're
selling everybody is actually hearing and they think it stinks
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and they don't want to support it. And I'm evidence
of this buck because I left, I was just like,
I can't I can't count this this anymore. I can't
like sit around and argue that men should be able
to compete against women. I'm not willing to take the
poison pill here and just go off the deep end
to follow deer leader down the crazy rabbit hole of
(25:25):
their insanity.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
One of the things that if you if you pick
up a true believer, I mentioned it the era Eric
Hoffer's uh political analysis work from uh you know, from
time time past. There's also Gustave Lebon who's a French
political social scientist, and they talk about the role of
(25:48):
chance and and shouting slogans in a crowd. This is
this is sort of why you'll see this right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know, whose streets are streets?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know that was the Occupy Wall Street thing. You know,
No Justice, no Peace is a big one for the
social justice movement. And what you find is that people,
by the way communists are very big on try I
mean true communists, right, like communist parties around the world
and throughout history, Clay. They're very big on slogans and
(26:16):
jargon because it's actually a way around, it's a short
circuit to thinking. So the way that that comes up
in the Trump context is, you know, January sixth, they
you know, the insurrection, Trump is a fascist. These become
these reflexive argument ending short circuits to actual thinking, and
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the Democrat Party embrace this wholesale. And it's that's because
of that you don't even have them engaging on things
like are you really okay with ten million illegals pouring
into the country in four years? Like do you think
that this is a good thing?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You think that this makes it? If you are okay
with it, then why do we have an immigration service?
Why do we have immigration laws?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Why? You know, can can anyone come here? I are
their borders in any way? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So what happened is that because they have the jargon
and the slogans, they never actually have to get to
the substance in their thinking, and it keeps them on
a perpetual offense. They are the mob in the street
chanting nonsense. You're never gonna argue with them. Right when
someone's saying no justice, no peace, that just doesn't mean anything.
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It just means shut up, we're here, we're mobilized. That
was the Democrats going into this election. Well, and I
think we've seen two examples of articulate attacks on their
vapid slogans. One was Ron DeSantis against Gavin Newsom in
the Sean Hannity debate, where Gavin Newsom got destroyed, I'd
(27:45):
say the other one.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The other one was Tim Walls trying to go toe
to toe with JD Vance and just getting obliterated. But
that's rare, right to our point. We've talked about this
on the show. You did it with Bill Maher. There's
almost no cross exchange of ideas anymore. I was thinking
about this, like, do I want to just start going
on CNN. Kind of been inspired by our now band friend.
(28:07):
I kind of want to join the band group Clay
you Ryan, you know, banned from CNN. I want to
go on there and just be like, look, if you
guys want to discuss something, I'll be respectful until they're not,
and then it's just going to be on and they're
gonna be libs crying. I've thought about this now because
I do think there's an opening now to take the
take the debate and go on off you know, to
the other side and go on offense. So we'll see
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light us up with some calls here too, my friends.
Eight hundred two eight two two eight a two, and
remember Julie Kelly gonna join us.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Going to get into the more serious.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Policy driven and justice issues here coming up about J
six is is Trump gonna do a lot for the
J six political prisoners? I mean, if you're sitting in
a federal prison because you trespassed on federal property, that's outrageous.
And there are people for whom that is their life
right now, and lives have been ruined over this, and
it's because of the Jack Smiths and the Adam Shipps
(28:58):
and the lunatic brigade of anti Trump. Is there going
to be some some justice done. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 2 (30:06):
We begin the hour with our good friend Julie Kelly,
who has been.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
On top of jan six, Jack Smith.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Everything else for years now coming on to talk about
all of this with us. But I just want to
start with this, Julie, how much did you enjoy Tuesday Night?
Was there a moment that for you was like the
apex of happiness. I know we've joked before about what
having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
(30:35):
I hope you've thought about that idea at least once
as all the returns were coming in. Do you still
just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile
on your face?
Speaker 9 (30:44):
Totally? Clay and I did repost our conversation from a
few months ago when you said, wouldn't you love to
have a camera in the room when Trump won a
camera on Jack Smith? I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I
woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth ers,
(31:05):
knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them.
And then, you know, as the night progressed and the
returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay
Sixer started to text me, uh, and I think it
was just like later that night realizing, Wow, the good
the good guys when I think it was like one
(31:26):
one o'clock or so, the good guys won, the bad
guys lost are going to face repercussions, which of course
I will happily work on. And then, most importantly, the
burden lifted off of J sixers, knowing that there's hope
for them, relief around the corner, and exoneration at the
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very least, claim buff their own government not referring to
them as domestic terrorists anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Julie, can you just for everybody you know we've had,
you want a lot to talk about the J six defendants,
give a sense because you know, the media and a
lot of the media that I'm talking about those who
listen to Austin who are part of our extended radio
family here don't pay attention to. But for a lot
of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this violence,
(32:15):
and only the most serious people have faced any you know,
serious crimes, have faced any consequests from January sixth. Some
of the people who are who have or are serving
prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses,
include what like tell us some of those stories so
people can really know this is what was done to them,
and this is how unjust it was.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four
common misdemeanors that the government that this DOJ has brought
against J six ers for the very first time. Early
on the Chief Judge Beryl Howel, this shameless Trump leater.
She overthought Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe and then ran
the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA
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sixth prosecution, she openly seven court, we never deal with
Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly what
they've been doing. So they more than I think seven
hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors applied to them.
And this is parading in the Capitol, this is being
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on restricted grounds where a Secret Service protectee is disorder
the conduct on capital grounds just being there even have
to engage in disorderly conducts, So there are four common misdemeanors. Nonetheless,
these people were tormented by the j dragged TODC for
core proceedings and in almost every case claim bucks faced
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some sort of prison times, whether it was thirty days
or some met Some were sentenced to the maximum number
of months, which is twelve months for these misdemeanors, and
they were thrown in federal prison for this. So that
to me is the lowest king fruit that I think
(34:04):
is something that the President can sign up on day
one is immediate pardons for all of them, the misdimunit cases.
Then you get into trickier areas well, as you know,
the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this, the Supreme
Court overturned how the DOJ unlawfully applied fifteen twelve c
to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was the post
(34:26):
on run tampering with evidence and documents that you also
used for the very first time in J six cases.
More than three hundred J sixers charged with that selony,
so that has been overturned. Many defendants have gone to
court speaking that to have that conviction, whether they pleaded
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guilty or were convicted at trial, to have those convictions vacated.
So all of those individuals should easily be pardoned in
the any existing indictment strap into trickier areas. Assault on police, right,
they're a handful of those cases that really need to
be closely examined where there really was violence involved. But
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for the most part, even those charged and convicted with
assaulting or interfering with police that's the statute assault interfering
in inhibiting law enforcement. This could be to someone who
yelled at a police officer, who touched a riot shield,
who threw a water bottle towards police lines, And we
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see things like that all the time in protests. Correct,
We thought certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but
they were never charged with this federal statute. So we
need to look more closely. I think that will be
the sickier area, the grayer area as to where pardons
should apply, even the most egregious cases, their sentences should
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be commuted. You have a man, Julie Cater, who has
been in prison since March of twenty twenty one his arrest.
He was one of two of the fall guys for
the death of Brian's sickness, claiming that because he was
hit with pepper spray that that's how he died of
a stroke the next day. Doing Cater arrested on an
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airplane in New Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused
of spraying Brian Signick with a small thing of pepper spray.
He languished in the DC Dulag awaiting trial. He was
tormented for almost two years before he accepted a previo.
Then he was sentenced to seven years in federal prison.
That is there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction,
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let alone in Washington DC. Those are the sort of
cases that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and
freeing these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere
to the sentences that they've received.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's
been covering the jan sixth k is the Jack Smith
prosecutions the lawfair against Trump in general with US now
for years. I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was,
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,
(37:15):
Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is
the latest on these cases? And where should it go
from here? Let me ask you like broad question, if
you know, if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should
we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you
suggest Republicans coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator?
(37:38):
Where should this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised
by how quickly all of this house of cards collapsed?
Speaker 9 (37:44):
Yes? I am so. Number one the Florida Document's case,
as you know. Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July
based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ
and Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what
we're expecting now is that Jack Smith will pull back
that appeal, drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands,
(38:05):
which is very interesting as to how it will affect
future Special Councils. Number two. I will admit I'm surprised
that Jack Smith and the DJ is dropping the Washington
case so quickly because Judge Chuckkin on October twenty eighth,
a few days before the election, set deadlines in that
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case into mid and late December. She wanted to drag
this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won.
I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue
to pursue those deadlines. Those motions have one more court
perance right to drag out all this evidence before Judge
Chuck hints. I really thought that they were going to
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hold that to the last minute even if Donald Trump won.
That is not the case. So it does look like
this loss there really has backfired. Now. You saw Jim
Jordan today letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee.
He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,
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evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,
this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got
a piece on my substant you classified with the Lutelli
that spells out the prosebatorial of use and misconduct in
both of those cases, especially the Florida case where you
guys know, I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering
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first him what was happening there, and the revelations about
you know, the mar Lago armed graves where agents violated
even the very broad terms of that search warrant. There
are accusations of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in
that case, threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a
close aid personal aids of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt,
(39:53):
who was one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully
him and threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and
becoming government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality
in the Special Counsel's office, not just Jack Smith, but
his prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident
(40:14):
from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases, and also, guys,
as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least
fifty million dollars two years of this investigation, millions and
contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white shoe law firms,
but also more than eleven million dollars in salaries and benefits.
(40:37):
And this was just the first fourteen months. By the way,
this is probably topping twenty million dollars just in salaries
and benefits because he's way behind in his obligated required
financial reporting. All of his expenses, including his personal protective details.
Every single dollar must be accounted for, because I want
(40:58):
to see where those content truck went and who those
employees were, and how they spent so much money and
then at the end time to be handed.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her sub stack. You
want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,
you're in contact with both the Trump side of this
equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.
Just just what's it like for them to know that? Well,
how much do we know at this point? I mean,
my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be
(41:31):
sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.
What can you tell us about where this is going?
Speaker 9 (41:38):
I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages
from attorneys from Jay sixers and their loved ones, so
relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work
really begins. So it's just you know, putting together the pieces.
I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to
the part in commutation projects. Whoever, his new Attorney General
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will be particularly in asking DCUs attorney where all these
cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately, on
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, shut down what the Mayor
Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves coj refers to as the
Capital Siege Investigation. The entire unit must be shut down
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on January twentieth. Any existing indictments, you guys, they arrested
a man from Georgia on election day, a key swing state.
The FBI counter Terrorism task for arresting a man for
his participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege Division must
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be shut down immediately and then address the cases that
have already been litigated, the convictions, the pree deals, and
those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing these judges, by
the way, BC are still moving these cases forwards. I
heard from a JACA for the other day who said
his trial date has just been set for January ninth.
(43:04):
These judges are not giving this up because they will
have nothing else to do after January twentieth. You could
go to that court tacket any day of the week.
Seventy five percent of the cases before those judges relate
to January sixth. I have no idea what they're going
to do after January twentieth. I do have an idea though.
Some of them should be impeached, some of them should retire.
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Quite frankly, the entire DC federal court system should be
shut down after what they've done to these individuals, broke
the law, overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some
cases by the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not
match the law, after the egregious misconduct in that courthouse,
it should be completely shut down.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Julie Kelly, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the
j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've
done on this topic. And as we get more to
the action phase, of this where people will get the
clemency that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
We will be talking to you more about it. Thanks
so much for being here.
Speaker 9 (44:06):
I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you
so much for covering my work.
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We mentioned this, but it is worth repeating.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
The election counting is still freaking going on, and as
we are all talking to you, there are still counting
of votes going on. We should mention, by the way,
before positive Dave McCormick yesterday was declared the winner in
Pennsylvania by the AP. Right after we went off the air,
(46:50):
Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey, things look
really good. Here, here's the latest. So they are trying
to fight against it. But Dave McCormick is going to
win Pennsylvania. He presently has as they continue to count.
I'm bad at Mathbuck, but about a thirty six thousand
vote lead, and that is a very comfortable lead that
(47:13):
he has as basically all the votes are in huge
win to flip Pennsylvania. But Arizona counting is still going
on and Carrie Lake, with about twenty three percent of
the vote out, keeps adding on votes and she is
now only down about thirty eight thousand in Arizona. With
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as many as forty four hundred thousand votes still to
be counted there, and Trump is winning Arizona by a
large margin.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Buck, it may end up.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
In fact, I think it is going to end up
of the quote unquote battleground states. Trump's now up six
in Arizona with about seventy five percent of the vote
in Now, this should never be allowed to continue. Also,
in the Senate race in Nevada, it's been going back
and forth Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown down about fifteen
(48:09):
thousand votes in that one. Trump has won both Nevada
and Arizona in the presidential race. But the fact that
we're still sitting here talking about counting going on as
we head into the weekend. According to the New York Times,
only fifty eight percent of the vote buck in California
has been counted, fifty eight percent. We counted votes faster
(48:33):
back in the eighteen hundreds than we do now. Now,
with that in mind, in the House, I want to
update you Republicans have the lead in let's see nineteen.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Twenty, twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
If I were betting right now, I would say that
Republicans are going to end up with two hundred and
twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats, which
is very similar to the margin right now it's two
eighteen for House control. But one reason we don't have
that control officially decided is because California and Arizona are
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dragging on their count to such an extent that we
still don't have definitive answers from many of those House
districts out there. Frankly, it's unacceptable that we could be
in this position, but I wanted to make sure that
we mentioned that those counts are still going on as
we head into the weekend. And also, ad Buck, it's
(49:31):
not inconceivable that the election for president could have come
down to Arizona and Nevada and we could all still
be sitting here multiple days later uncertain as to who
is going to be the president of.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
The United States. This has to get fixed.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for
both sides to see that this is unacceptable. You know,
California is a one party state and that's a warning
to all of us. They took over one of the
most beautiful places in the world that have turned it
into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's still beautiful. Look, I still love California.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
We got I think we have more listeners play in
Texas than any other state, but I think California is
number two just in terms of over So we can
look at this in the digital more than we can
easily on the on the radio side. But we got
a lot of listeners or in the California or California area,
in the state of California, just because it's such a
huge state and there are a lot of Republicans there.
(50:32):
So I don't know what has to happen for them
to see that this is unacceptable because it starts to
look like one side just doesn't want to fix it.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
And I get that.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
I know people are thinking to themselves like, well, there's
one side that doesn't want voter ID and there's one
side that does.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I know.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
So this is how we put the pressure on. We say, hey, guys,
Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled
what were they? What were the other was the other
thing that was the chads and the something others? There
was another term that came out right for the Florida
two times. Yeah, the indentations.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
But there was a phrase for dimple chads, like to
what extent had did a punch ballot count like for
people who didn't live through that, It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I don't understand. Why can they not just every state
copy what Florida does. I was going to ask the
same question. That's what I mean. They Florida. It's like
they know that got them. It's rock solid done, you know,
and and I and they did this because of what
was going on. For these other states. It just makes theirs,
(51:33):
It makes their governance look like it is absurd and lacking,
and it's just not.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
A good whatever partisan basis you have, Democrat, Republican, Independent,
it's not a good look for election counting to go
on for multiple days. We need finality, we need definity.
Uh And to me, like a clear result should be
something that everybody once as rapidly as we possibly can.
(52:02):
And if Florida can count in a state of twenty
million plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the
polls closing, how in the world can every other state
not just copy what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Maybe somebody from California GOP can let us know where
the where the roadblock is on this one or why
this can't seem to get fixed? So yeah, no, I
think I think McCormick's looking good. It is going to
be very tight there for Kerry Lake at the end.
I know we don't have to fit when do we do?
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We know when? We will know when the house is
done and over with one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
We don't right it could I mean we've got it,
I think if you look at the returns and the
percentages and everything else. But I don't think it'll be
till next week. At some point, Buck, let's have some fun.
I was gonna say, I know we're finishing out the week.
It's been so much fun. I've got two different clips
of incredibly arrogant libs saying that they were going to win.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
The first one.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
I just want to play it again because I think
it's my favorite clip that we have ever played. This
is doctor Arlene telling the story of how.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
She berated it again.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I want to play it again because in case you
missed it, and then we've got another one that's good.
This is her berating a liquor store maga clerk, who
I really want to hear from. I would love if
people could track this guy down as she was buying
her champagne about how the women of America we're going
to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
We played it yesterday, you guys loved it. Here she
is listen to cut two.
Speaker 10 (53:31):
We're closing in on almost five pm Eastern time. And
I've been trucking everything that's been going on across the
country today, and my most important encounter was when I
went out to get my champagne. I was talking to
the guy in the store, of course, asking him did
(53:51):
he vote, and he said he did early voting, and
he asked me if I early voted, and he asked me.
You know why I was getting the champagne, and I said,
because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight. And
he just looked at me with kind of like a
smirk on his face, and I said, you know she's
going to win this, right He said, oh, well, it's
(54:12):
very very close. And I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Says well, what do you mean.
Speaker 10 (54:15):
I said, no, it's not. The women of America are
making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all
comes down to, and the women are voting in numbers
relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And
I said to him, she's going to take every one
of the swing states plus O plus Iowa. And he said, oh,
but the numbers are so close. I said, I'm a
(54:36):
political analyst. I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.
She's taking this election.
Speaker 11 (54:42):
I've said to him, you realize And he didn't tell
me who he voted for, but of course I knew,
and I said, you do realize you wasted your vote, right,
And I didn't care.
Speaker 10 (54:54):
And I walked out with my bottle of champagne and
happily walked home.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
And what.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
I can't get enough of this video, Buck. I watched
it five times yesterday, just sitting laughing uproariously at this arrogant,
totally wrong woman who was lecturing a guy working in
a liquor store about how she was a political analyst
and an expert and the women were turning out unbelievable
numbers and they're gonna win Iowa. They lost Iowa by fourteen,
(55:26):
by the way. The Kammalins camp. My favorite part.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Of that is the well, I am a political analyst,
like oh, in that.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Case, I guess discussion about anything, and then I wanted
to play this because we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
These people who are the anti Trump Republicans. I actually
even heard Jinsaki going off on them on MSNBC, like,
we give them way too much attention, we give them
way too much credence.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Nobody cares about them.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, you think all of us were saying, Hey, the
idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage, and
somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to
vote for you. Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
This guy has raised hundreds of millions of dollars to
claim that he is a Republican who is opposed to Trump.
Here was what he said on election Day about how
bad Trump was gonna get beat. He was wrong about
all of it. But I want you to remember this
whenever you see these guys getting trumpeted out there as
if there's some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence.
(56:28):
Listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in the election.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
Everybody. Number one, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly.
He's he's gonna be wrecked. I don't know what the
Electoral College account's going to be at the end of this,
but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna get hard
for him. Their panic is extraordinary. Their events in Georgia
and North Carolina are basically about as well attend That
(56:55):
is a Pokemon card trading convention in ass Crack, Alabama.
This is a campaign in freeform. It's really really dumb. Yeah,
you've got a campaign ending in chaos, and you got
another campaign that was able to deploy ninety thousand volunteers
to knock on three million doors. Guys, the better campaign
(57:15):
is going to win this one.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong. Do you
know about him?
Speaker 3 (57:23):
You know, like his past, I know, I've known him
for I've known him for not I don't know him,
but like I've been aware of him for years.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
I've met him once or twice.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
He's a Republican play or I know, I know your
Redican Project people are I mean, they flipped. Yeah, he says,
he says he's a Republican, and it's not possible to
be more wrong than that, and to be so smug.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
I mean, look, we took a little risk in being
so definitive that Trump was going to win the election.
I mean, if we had been wrong, we would have
taken our lumps, you know. But we were right, you
know what I mean. And you know, people like this
and that plotal analyst lady, I'm a political analyst. They
(58:05):
I'm sorry, man, you couldn't if we held the contest
for the most annoying Kamala voter in.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
The country, they couldn't beat that woman. That she she
is number one, perfect, She's the champion. Give her the belt.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
She's perfect. And look, we were hyper rational on this show.
We looked at all the early voting numbers. I went
into them all the time, analyzed them, and we nailed it.
We got every single thing right. There were lots of
signs out there, and I get it was close. It
was it's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine
your victory or defeat. I mean, that's the America we
(58:41):
live in right now. But to think that they were
gonna win Iowa, I mean, you have to be utterly
delusional to it. Bought into that an Seltzer poll in
Iowa and even for her, like her career is over.
How could you ever trust somebody again based on being
that utterly wrong. That's one of the things that I
(59:04):
think is maybe the lesson for me. MSNBC buck has
been wrong on everything, Russia, collusion, masking, COVID shots, Trump,
going to jail. I mean, you can run through basically
every major issue that has happened in the last seven
or eight years, by and large, and they've.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Been wrong on all of it.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Why do people keep showing up and watching a program
where they're being told things that they are going to
be objectively wrong. I'm curious whether MSNBC's ratings will actually
fall because how could you trust those people when they
told you, oh, Kamala is running a great campaign, Joe
Biden's fit as sharp as attack behind closed doors. They
lied to you for years, regardless of what your politics are,
(59:50):
and you're going to keep showing up and letting them continue.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
To lie to you.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
I just if you find out that you've been lied to,
you should change the media.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
I think that you consume.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I mean that seems like a rational thing to me,
and I think that's one reason the mainstream quote unquote
mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent. We almost
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