November 11, 2024 • 60 mins
Assembling the A-Team. MO Sen. Eric Schmitt on political shenanigans. Buck nails it! Riley Gaines on trans overreach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Monday edition of The Clay and Buck Show gets going
right now, Veterans' Day edition. Let's kick off this show
with a big thanks from the bottom of our hearts
to every veteran of the United States military. It is
a particular point of pride for Clay and for me
(00:21):
that we have so many veterans and so many active
duty who listen to this show all over the world.
We love when we see our little download maps, and
we have people on military bases in the Koreas and
or sorry South Korea, not both of them, South Korea
and in Germany.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And maybe Kim Jong UN's a big fan too. We
never know, you never know. I mean, we are pretty
we are pretty good. We've been on the money lately.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Kim Jong Un maybe like these guys know something, but no, seriously,
we thank all of the veterans the bottom of our hearts.
What you do is well, what you do makes everything
about America that is beautiful, that is free, and that
is prosperous possible.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So thank you so much. On this Veterans Day.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And I think everybody has said celebrate Trump's victory over
the weekend, will celebrate Veterans Day today. Maybe do something
fun this week or this weekend as well. We have
a lot of news to get to. I've got some
there's sort of the aftermath component of this, and that'll
be a lot of fun because Clay, the libs, the
shattered dreams of the communists, it is so fascinating to wow.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You assess Morning Joe. Now, I know you shared a clip,
but as we'll get into this in detail, I'm sure,
but how would you assess their overall emotional state?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The entire legacy media apparatus is in full gaslighting mode.
Everything that they said before today about Trump is hitler.
It's the end of democracy. They just act like they
didn't say it. They're just moving forward. I'm gonna tell
you there were parts of Morning Joe. I was watching
this morning that you could have aired parts of it
(01:57):
that you could have aired on Fox News and people
would have.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been like, Oh, they gotta get a new show on
Fox News.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They are moving in a They're talking about how wokeness
is corrosive and how wokeness is crazy and identity politics
is poison. This is on MSNBC, so we will get
into and all of that. Clay, I have some facts
and figures for the aftermath here, but I also want
to say we're going to dive into the future. Last
week was victory dance week, Clay and I doing little
(02:25):
dances do The Trump Dance is amazing, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Probably the most beautiful election of all time. And this
week we can still bask in that glow. But now
the work gets going. Now the agenda, the future, the mission,
the mission of Trump two point zero, save America, save
Western civilization. Along with it that starts right now are
(02:49):
the appointments being made, transition stuff underway, and Clay, the
Senate battle. We'll talk about Senate leadership, how they are
angling to get appointees through recess appointments. A ton of
stuff going on there. So we're gonna switch a little
bit back and forth Today've also got some great guests
come up later, Riley Gains, how much the trans issue
and men and women's sports played into this. At Attorney
(03:12):
General Schmidt will be with us as well, talking about
stuff in this on the Senate side, So we'll dive
into all of that. But Clay, just a few figures
that we have now. Donald Trump has now clinched the
biggest popular vote count by a Republican ever, seventy four
point six million and chain, so we'll call it basically
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on the way to seventy five million votes, which beats
the second highest number ever, which was Trump at seventy
four million votes. Eighty percent of counties, eighty percent of
counties nationwide moved to the right in this election.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
House Republicans look like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
They are about to take the majority unless something crazy
happens in California and Arizona. And we've got a couple
of announcements, including Tom Homan as ICE Director. Tom's a
good man, I know Tom, We've had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
At least.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Stefanic coming out of Congress is going to be US
ambasadory the United Nations play. It feels like they're assembling
the A team and they're hitting the ground running.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Steven Miller, our friend who's been on this show a
ton of times, is going to be deputy chief of
Staff underneath of Susie Wiles's leadership. I would, I mean,
so far on the announcements of the new Trump administration,
I think he gets an A plus. There doesn't seem
to be anybody out there that is sort of a sniveling,
(04:39):
you know, like oh, I hope the New York Times
likes me. I hope the Washington Post is going to
be favorable to me. It's just died in the wall.
I know what my role is. I'm gonna show up
and I'm going to go to work, and I love
everything about the move so far. Now we have Attorney
General coming. We'll talk a bit with Eric Schmidt. At
one point thirty Missouri senator. He took himself out of
(05:01):
the running for AG. He's had a lot of wins
when it comes to big tech. We'll see what he
thinks about who the AG is going to be. You
mentioned Riley Gaines is going to be with us, but
I would say AG and Secretary of State Buck are
the next really big announcements to drop. We should also
mention that Trump has said that Nicky Hayley and also
(05:22):
Mike Pompeo will not be in his administration. So he
has gone ahead and kneecapped a couple of people out
there that were being pushed. And we've also got to
figure out Senate Majority leader, which is a big decision
that's going to be made by Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's a huge thing right now because that goes to
the Trump cabinet, it goes to all the appointees that
have to be Senate confirmed. I think there's twenty something
of them. And it goes then to also the machinery
the Senate will have in place for judges. We'll dive
into this play. I was up late last night reading
about all this to make sure that the history and
(05:57):
you know, I have a clarity on how this fight
is likely to transpire. I think you and I agree
that this administration they've got eighteen months to change and
possibly save the country. I mean, that's really how I
see it. They've got eighteen months. It's not four years, yes,
four years for it all to play out. But within
eighteen months they've either set this thing on a footing
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that is truly making America great again, or they're getting
stymied by the machine. It is going to be a fight.
No one should have any illusions. The bureaucracy is tough.
The bureaucracy will on the swamp. The fourth branch of
government will fight with everything that they have. You know,
I think you mentioned this. Pompeo and Nikki Haley, they
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both ran against Trump, and there he said they're not
welcome in this now to be fair, he was actually
pretty gracious about it. He just said, look, they're great,
love them. They're not a part of this Trump two
point zero term. He wasn't taking swings at them. But
I think that what that is, Clay, is a recognition
that the establishmentarian Republican or the establishment Republican is not
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going to be able to kind of work their way
into the center of the Trump administration because he had
too much of that in the first term. Too many
people who all of a sudden thought they knew better
than the commander in chief, and they started going and
winding to the New York Times, and some of them
even ended up turning on him entirely, and you know,
getting contracts at CNN or ABC or whatever. So that's
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all where we see it. I got to tell you,
we'll dive into that Senate confirmation issue right now, which
has to do with whether, well, who will be the
Senate majority leader. We know Republicans have won the Senate,
We've got a few candidates, and how should top appointees
go through Because Democrats, I'll give you the backstory on this.
It was incredibly just underhanded and gross what they did
(07:51):
in twenty sixteen to Trump. We'll discuss that, but Clay,
can we just throw out there. I don't know if
you and I have exactly the same picks. I have
a feeling we're pretty similar. We know Stephen Miller, friend
of the show, brilliant guy. Can't say enough good things
about him him being Deputy chief of staff in the
White House, assuming that you know we've been that's been reported.
Couldn't think of a better pick for that. Tom Holman
(08:13):
couldn't think of a better pick for ice. Susie Wiles
just ran the best campaign that we've seen for the
biggest victory we've seen in decades, So you know, congrats
and hats off to her as White House Chief of Staff.
Here's here's my others, if I can throw them out there.
Caroline Levitt for White House Press Secretary, another another friend
of the show. We see talent here. I'm just saying,
(08:34):
we know people who have got the skills. Mike Lee
would Ted Cruz would be great too, but I think
he wants to stay in the Senate. Mike Lee for
Attorney General, what do you think? I think he would
be fabulous. He's super smart.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He understands the mechanics of how the Department of Justice works.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There are guys that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Are not as constitutionally savvy that have been in the mix.
I think that Mike Lee, if he's the choice, and
well ask Eric Schmidt who he thinks the choice could be,
would be a great, great choice because I've said the
Attorney General to me is the most important decision. Trump
has look all of the cabinet matters, but I think
(09:16):
the Department of Justice is more broken right now than
it has ever been in any of our lives. And
we need someone who can go in with a sledgehammer
and just return the Department of Justice to its message,
which is treat everyone equally under the law, regardless of
their politics, race, gender, religion, all those things. And we
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haven't had that for so long. This woke identity politics
virus has infected our Department of Justice. Has to be
broken up, has to be fixed. That's the one that
I care about the most. I think Mike Lee, if
he's the choice, would do really well.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, I've heard some names that are in the mix
for our Secretary of State right now, Marco Rubio, Rick Renell,
and we've all these are all the names that are
being bandied about.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Who's the third that's Bill hagrid Senator from Tennessee. Senator Hagridy.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, I think all they're all competent, and I
think they're all dedicated to the Trump mission. So I
don't have a particular standout in mind among that crew.
The Secretary of State under Trump administration is going to
have to deal with dismantling this axis that has grown
big peace in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend
(10:27):
on this where you have now Russia selling its oil
to China and China supporting North Korea with otherwise North
Korea would fall apart in starved death, while North Korea
sends soldiers to fight on the front lines of the
Ukraine War. There is an ax and then using Iranian
and probably North Korean missile technology and sharing that high
(10:51):
level military know how between these various countries. There's some
real concern there. So you have a Secretary of State's
got some big problems, I know, China, Taiwan, Israel. Although
people are saying, do you see Doug Murray on this one?
He was great Doug Murray on the Mid East and
Israel right now. It is the best opportunity I know
Israel has been through hell. We know it was just
(11:12):
the worst imaginable terror tac on October seventh. But the
Israeli people have rallied, they have fought back against their enemies,
and Israel is now in a better place strategically in
the Middle East than anytime I can remember in my lifetime,
because they've just decided the enemies are no longer going
to be allowed to stay on the battlefield. So there's
a lot to do, there, a lot to see. I
just got to say, Clay, overall the feeling, and I'm
(11:33):
talking to people as you are who are working on
this very closely. This Trump team, even they would admit
first time around twenty sixteen, it was kind of like, yeah,
we'll figure it out. You know, we're gonna build the
plane as we fly it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That was what it was. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Trump was an outsider. This is looking like a well
oiled machine that wants to get after the agenda day one,
and I love to see.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And when Trump came in in sixteen, remember there were
still a lot of people inside the party that did
not believe in a lot of what he had run on.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That doesn't exist now. So Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We're going to have a Senate majority, sorry, a House majority.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's going to be announced soon. I think maybe as
soon as today.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We'll have officially two eighteen in and then the Senate,
we'll talk about this a lot during the course of
the program, has got to pick their majority leader. But
I think everybody's going to be moving in concert. And
what you said, Buck is so important. You only really
have eighteen months to get things done. Then everybody starts
running for the midterms. Trump will become a lame duck.
(12:35):
Everybody will start running for president right after the midterms.
Eighteen months to alter the trajectory of the country, fix
a lot of what is wrong. That's when you have
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
We are joined now by Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. Been
fighting a lot of battles with big tech. He's been
on the program several different times. Appreciate you joining us
a senator. And you had some news that came out
(14:38):
a little bit a little bit earlier today about the
Attorney General position, and I saw you tweet about it.
But for our audience out there, what have you decided
as it pertains to potentially joining Trump's cabinet.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, first of all, thanks for the Rick Asley bumper
music on the way in. You appreciate that as a gig. Yes, Sir,
near and dear in my heart. Yeah, it was an
honor to be considered for the AG position. But I
talked to the transition folks and have my name with
drawn from consideration for that really important role because I
think it's important for me to serve up my turning
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United States Senate. President Trump needs you know, actual real
America first fighters in the Senate who are going to
move this agenda forward. I mean, he got a mandate
on Tuesday, but we actually have to deliver on that,
and I think that's the that's the place for me
to go do that. So I'll have a role with judges,
taking some judges and then also once we get back
into Congress next year of trying to deliver here. So
(15:34):
that's the right place for me. And again, it was
an honor to be considered to mention, but this is
the right thing I think right now?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Do you know who the ag might be? Do you
give an endorsement as you step out? What do you
think about that role and who might get it?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well, it's an important one, and you know there's some
names that are out there, and I don't want to
get too far ahead of the president on any of that,
but I'm always willing to sort of weigh in and
I do intend to be helpful between now in January
and then beyond. I mean, there's a lot of things
that there's a lot of important positions. AG's one of them.
There's going to be a lot of judges to fill.
That's another thing that a lot of people aren't talking
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about yet. He's going to have an opportunity again to
sort of remake the federal judiciary and continue to put
judges who interpret the law as it's written, not how
they want it to be. The people that Joe Biden
is picking here now are just activists, many of which
have no experience at all, but they just want to
deliver the results, and that's really not what it's for.
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So he's got a great opportunity. I think here he's
going to put together an incredible cabinet. I know that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What do you think about the possibility of some major
appointment senator happening in a recess that is essentially, you know,
pre planned, so that that can happen without the intransigence
and the obstruction that Trump faced in twenty sixteen when
he was being slowed down and prevented in ways that
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we're bordering on just absurd to prevent him from getting
the people that he wanted in those key roles.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Would you agree that's the way forward? Or do you
think that with regular order the.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Democrats will fall in line enough that it won't make
that much of a difference and there can be the
speeches and the votes and all the rest of it
to get through nominations.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, I think the reci'ch appointments. He's put that out there.
I think it's a good idea. I think we should
move forward on it. I also think that if we're
pretty clear when we get up there, that you know,
we've got the numbers, we've got them chorty, and we're united,
we can accomplish all these things. And I tell you
the Democrats are good at this when they get these
sort of opportunities. And that's exactly what we have to do.
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I mean, in President Trump was really clear about what
he wants to do. I mean, in addition to the appointments,
but we're going to secure the border, we're going to
be energy dominant, we're going to have an economy that
works for real people and working people, and we're going
to be respected around the world. All of those things
can happen. And by by the way, the ninety four
executive orders that Joe Biden undid when president when they
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got into office, that you know, turned around all the
successes we had at a forty five year low, and
the legal immigration when Trump left, I fully expect him
coming in and doing that to remain in Mexico policy
was incredibly effective. I fully anticipate that coming back on board,
and then whatever we need to back to the legislatively
to give him additional authorities, we can do that. And
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then on the permitting and on the leasing. A lot
of these things can be done when you've got the
White House. But I will tell you one thing to
sort of look out for a lot of those tax
cuts that came into play in twenty seventeen for middle
class families and small businesses, those all expire at the
end of twenty twenty five, and so we can move
those things, get those permanently extended. And here's the sort
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of in the leads. We can do that by way
of a process of reconciliation where you don't need sixty votes,
you just need fifty one votes in the Senate, and
so I think we do that. On tax reform, one
of the things that I'm going to advocate for is
regulatory reform as well, because there's a lot of budget savings,
which is the key that can come by way of
regulatory reform that we ought to have in that bill.
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So I would justiciaate we'll spend a lot of time
on that too.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Coming back, we're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri
big decision Wednesday as to who the Senate Majority Leader
will be. I believe Wednesday is the vote. There are
three known finalists out there, Thune, Cornyn, and Scott. Have
you made your decision about how you will vote? How
would you assess the horse race? So to speak? Of
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the Wednesday decision on Senate Majority Leader?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's hard to know. I'm not sure any the three
of them who I'm talking to all the time know
either actually where the votes are all at. I think
the input that you get from from folks back home
is all good. But wait, I'm hearing all of them
out and I mean that sincerely, Like I'm talking to
people literally today. There's a candidate forum tomorrow what is it, Monday?
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Tomorrow night. When we get back up there, I think
there's a lot of people who still haven't made their
mind up. And here's what's important to me, and this
is what I communicate, and I'm just again wanting to
hear what the response is. I want an agenda that
is reflective of what the American people want, what they
voted for on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I will tell you my first two years up there,
the biggest disappointment often is that the conversations in Washington
are so detached from what people really talk about at home.
Like you know, when people say the most important thing
that we need to do is send another sixty billion
dollars to Ukraine. Literally, nobody in Missouri has ever told
me that. No, not one person has said, Eric, that's
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the most important thing you can do when you go
up to Washington. But in our lunches, in just sort
of that to poon that people live in in DC,
that is a lot of the conversation. So I want
an agenda that's reflective what real people want. And also
there's some reform. These omnibus bills at midnight, where two
or three people are writing the bill, people don't read them,
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and you vote them. That has to end, Like, let's
do individual appropriations bills have real amendments. I think that's
what people think we do up there. But a lot
of it's kabuki theater and very scripted, and that has
to change. So those are the two things that I'm
talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know, with the people who are running, do you
think that their senator is any appetite for well, I'll
just say it, for deciding that the filibuster as a
means to prevent Trump's agenda from being achieved, may have
to be something that, as Trump would say, you're going
to look at.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, I think everything's sort of on the table. But
I think one of the big concerns, of course, is
that the Democrats have run on this, specifically if the
Philibuster's gone to pack the court, you know, to pack
the court at states of the Union, federalized elections and
grant amnesty to fifteen million people. So I think everything
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can be on the table, I think about it. But
also if you did it, what would you do? What
are the Democrats willing to do? Right So there's not
I don't think any real discussion about that right now.
But but again I think that moving forward, we have
to be able to deliver I think for the American people.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Senator, right now, California's only counted about seventy two percent
of its overall ballots. You mentioned federal elections. We're fortunate
that Trump won by such a substantial majority that the
electoral college wasn't thrown into question, but Nevada, Arizona it's
taken them forever to count. How do we go back
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to elections being decided in at least twenty four hours,
because it certainly seems to a lot of us like
we're going back in time and now count vote slower
than we did in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. My hope, honestly, guys, is that this system, it
doesn't help anybody. Okay, so just take yourself out of
our red and blue jerseys for a minute. The idea
that you don't know for a week who won is insane.
It doesn't happen anywhere in the world. It only furthers
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the belief in the distrust right in our system, and
that just has to change. Now. I think that there
are probably some things you can do on the federal level,
but as Republicans who sort of adopted this position that
this should be this is a state decision, right, like
how you run the elections. The states sort of decide
these things. But what you're starting to see what the
Democrats want to do is have federal laws that don't
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allow you to have voter ID, you know, like those
are the sorts of things that they want to do.
I don't think even in Democrat states this is a
good thing. So I think persuasion is a piece of it.
I think photo ID one of the things that we
can do on a federal level, which we should do,
which is the Save Act, which is to make sure
that illegal immigrants aren't voting in our elections. For the
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people who tell you it's already illegal, we don't need
to do anything. Well, it's also illegal to be here
illegally like, but people do it. And once you get
a driver's license, which you can get as an illegal immigrant,
all you got to do the DMV is just say
yes when they ask you, do you want to register
to vote. No one really checks it after that unless
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there's something crazy that happen. So there are some things
we should do. But this wasn't controversial, guys. Even just
like a decade ago, there was the Carter Banker Commission.
They had ten recommendations, many of them were same day,
you know, make sure you have the election results come
in that day, have voter ID if you're going to
have mail in baling, make sure you have signature verification.
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I think that maybe the Democrat, if they've learned their
lesson these crazy positions they've taken have been rejected by
the American people, and they come back a little bit.
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We'll talking to Senator Schmidt of Missouri and one more
for you, Senator. It seems like Chuck Schumer is playing
some games here, not allowing Dave McCormick, who is clearly,
by the vote of the people of Pennsylvania going to
be the next Senator from that state. But he's not
being invited to orientation by Schumer. What the heck is
going on.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
He's being a baby, is what's going on? Just apl
move on the APUs call it I and Mike Lee
and some others have offered to escort mister McCormick to
his orientation if that is necessary. All of this is
just well, you guys have to understand, and you know,
and your listeners probably to some degree, Chuck Schumer is
a total control freak. Like this guy consolidates power and
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wants to execute it. He can't handle the fact that
he lost one of his incumbents loss to stay like Pennsylvania.
So he's just throwing kind of a temper tantrum. But
Dave McCormick has every right to be there. The people
of Pennsylvania deserve to have their senator understand where like
the bathrooms are and get their letter head together and
start to get you know, phone lines, operating for constituent issues.
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So these are the things that you start to do
in that orientation, because you know, I was there two
years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
There's a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I mean, it's it's a new gig, it's a new town.
You got to hire staff, and we will make sure
that he gets off to a good start. So I'm
confident that he'll be there. And if he needs somebody
to help him get in the door, I'll have to help.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Senator. She might appreciate you, Sarah, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
All right, guys, take care.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And one of the many takeaways from those recent election
is the importance of fighting for what we believe in,
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Speaker 1 (27:36):
I feel good and indeed, Clay, I knew that I would.
With the Trump victory here, it is fantastic. Feels like
the country like a weight has been lifted. The future
is writer for all Americans, even those who unfortunately voted
for COMMLA. But that's okay, It's gonna be better for
all Americans. Things might get a little complicated for some
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illegals who have come in the country and committed crimes
in particular while they're here, But for Americans, I think
the future is very bright, indeed, and we should talk
about what that looks like, what the mission is. I
just want to go back to this in case you
weren't with us in the first how or some important
stats here for the victory as more numbers are coming in.
(28:19):
First off, we know we have a Trump victory. We
know we have a popular vote win by Donald Trump.
Seventy five million approximately votes for Donald Trump, beating the
seventy four million that he got in twenty twenty. Eighty
percent of counties moved to the right nationwide, eighty percent
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of counties overall became more Republican. And you have lots
and lots of data to look at, and we'll have
more also on the different breakdowns demographics. Clay was talking
about how the youth vote much stronger for Trump than
a lot of people anticipated. And I do if I made.
There was a moment in time in August when Kamala
(29:02):
Harris was all, Oh my.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Gosh, Kamala Harrison is going to win. It's amazing. The
media was running the playbook.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh she's up in all the swing states over night,
and oh and I Clay, Now, this wasn't a bet.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
This was just a prediction.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But I gotta say this was in August, in the
darkest moments for the Trump campaign, at least according to
the media. I don't think Trump campaign believed any of
this crap. But this was the prediction I made in
August of this year. Play twenty five. It's gonna be okay,
Trump's gonna win this thing, all right, I have I
have faith that he's gonna win, and he's gonna win solidly.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think. I'll tell you this. It marked this prediction down.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than
he beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
There you go. Who would have seen that coming? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Remember what we felt like in twenty sixteen. I think
he will beat Kamala Harris in the electoral college by
a wider margin than he beat Hillary Clinton. I think
that will actually happen this time.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You Where were you broadcasting from?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It sounds like you were on a submarine somewhere in
like the North Atlantic. I was in a freedom bunker
in the woods somewhere in August.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know, as one does, no worries about it.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But I'm just saying the face was there bigger electoral
win for sure, you nailed that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
When this reminds me of when you watch an old
highlight and you're like, why is the did HD not
exist there? Like I don't know where that It does sound.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Like you were.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You were maybe on in the middle of the hunt
for Red October, like having to send up the con
to be able to reach everybody, but you were confident.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You did not waiver.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
From the moment that Kamalo was elevated on I believe
July twenty first, if I remember correctly that Sunday, you
never doubted. I got nervous about the time, probably when
you were when you were saying that. And look, I
mean the one thing I got right as we got
closer was Trump won the popular vote, and buck, I
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think that is making it almost impossible for Democrats to
know how to respond to this, because you know, if
he had won the electoral college, they'd be all out
there screaming about how we had to abolish the electoral college.
When you win the electoral college and the popular vote,
and you win by the biggest margin of any Republican
since nineteen eighty eight, the talking points aren't there to
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be able to really attack Trump, like what angled can
you even go.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
After him on?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I have to say, I think that some of the
legacy Democrat media was really hoping that it would at
least be close enough that there would be this case
to be made that they could, you know, they could
stick to everything that they did, and they did everything great.
The people who have come out and said that Kamala ran,
and there have been a number of them, a perfect campaign,
(31:49):
and she was a great candidate, and the Democrat message
was very powerful and strong. It's just racism and sexism
that stopped her from winning, are being laughed at, not
just by report publicans, They're actually being laughed at pretty
broadly by some powerful voices within the Democrat tent who
have just said, you know, the things, you know, prioritizing transagenda,
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illegal immigrants, the rights of criminals, these are things that people,
normal people don't react well to and you need to
win a few percent of the country nationally that are
in that sort of normy vote if you will.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And they didn't. And this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And I think it's a profound It should be a
profound lesson play Do you think they learned the lesson
or do you think they just they run the same playbook?
They say, Donald Trump just ran again. Why can't we
just run the same playbook next time? A lot of
them are not going to learn the lesson. I think
the question we will find out of whether they learn
the lesson or not will come in how the twenty
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twenty eight Democrat presidential primary plays itself out.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
And let me explain.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Why I think that in twenty twenty Democrats have lost
their mind. You can argue that Kamala Harris didn't lose
the twenty twenty four race. Actually, in the twenty twenty
four race, she lost it when she said she opposed fracking.
She lost it when she said she supported transgender surgery
for illegal immigrant inmates. She lost it when she tried
to ban plastic straw. She lost it when she said
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the border wall was racist. All of those things were
said in twenty twenty and then she did a poor
job as vice president. I'm curious to see buck when
everybody throws their hat in and they start running in
twenty twenty eight, will there be a Bill Clinton like
figure who I remember? Clinton rose from the ashes of
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the Ronald Reagan double win, of the George H. W.
Bush win and tried to run as a somewhat centrist Democrat,
and then he got over his skis in ninety two.
By ninety four, Republican revolution happens, and in ninety six
he's basically running as a Republican. If you go back
and remember that race, seat tried to triangulate with Dick
(34:02):
Morris some intern issues. But will there be sanity because
right now what you're seeing is we played that clip
from CNN of that crazy left winger. The left wing
is still trying to police what Democrats can say. And
as long as the left wing is out there saying
you can't say that that's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist,
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whatever you want to say, you can't actually have honest
conversations in the Democrat Party in the public arena. Most
of these people out there, deep down understand how crazy
this is let me give you another point on this buck,
this transports issue, which we're going to talk about with
Riley Gains here in a bit. Do you know Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris neither one has still been asked
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if they support boys who identify as girls being able
to play in girls sports. That has never been asked
of either person. Biden's been in office for almost four years,
not one question about it. Kamala got asked by Brett
Bayer about the illegal surgery for or transgender surgery for
illegal immigrants, but not about girls sports particularly. This is evidence,
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I think of the media trying to protect them because
they know that it's an incredible weakness of the Democrat Party,
and however they answer it, they're going to get attacked.
I've said, it's still crazy to me that Biden never
has had to answer this question, and it's the number
one question that I would ask if I were sitting
down talking to Kamalo or Biden, because to me, it
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goes to the essence of.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
This I also have a question that I would want
to ask Clay what happened to the ten million voters?
Jim Jordan, our friend in Congress the end of the
show good Man. He asked this question on CNN State
of the Union. This has cut eleven. Let's play it.
There were false plans about election fraud when Donald Trump lost.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
This time Donald Trump won, and you think the election
was free and fair. You see, there's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Of a no.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
I think theres got to ask why dood you go
from getting eighty one million to getting seventy million? What
happened to those ten million people? I think it's because
they had no vision, no record to run on, and
they just wanted to call everyone names. Turns out when
you turns out when you when you you tell people, oh,
your fascist, racist, deplorable garbage, they don't like that. And
then when you use lawfare to go after their candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
They don't like that either.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now he's just saying on the messaging front, they you know,
they lost ten million votes and should have some soul searching.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
That's a lot of votes to lose, even for a
really bad campaign. I'm just putting that out there. I'm
not I'm not convinced. It's just Kamala was a bad candidate.
Remember when when say your name wrong was they got
so huffy about it. The media like, oh, dare you
know Trump would be.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like Kamala Kamala, and they would just flip out about it.
You know, they should have focused on some more important things.
This is also evidence it raises the question I thought
Eric Schmidt said this well in the second hour the program,
Missouri Senator, I don't see it as partisan at all
that you should have to get your votes counted in
twenty four hours. Twenty four hours seems like a really
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broad arena to figure out how votes win. California, as
I speak to you right now, according to the New
York Times, Buck has still only counted seventy two percent
of the votes that were cast.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's been six days.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
The reason why we don't officially have a winner of
the House yet is because we have normalized week long.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Plus counting expeditions.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I will just point out, only by the grace
of Donald Trump's landslide, are we not all sitting around
waiting to see what's going to happen in Arizona and
Nevada to be able to pick a president. Trump already
had the majority on election night, thankfully, but Nevada and
Arizona are still counting. Do any of you feel like
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we would get a reliable count a week after the
election actually took place.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It can't happen.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
The longer the counting takes, the less confidence anyone has Republican, Democrat,
Independent in the actual tally. And in fact, the one
race that's still significant where the counting is still going
on and they're trying to extend it is in Pennsylvania,
where they're trying to take away Dave McCormick from his win.
Now he's got a forty thousand vote lead. The AP
(38:18):
has called it. He's going to be the Senator from Pennsylvania.
But all the people out there who told you you
have to respect democracy and you can't deny elections, as
soon as they have the tinest, tiniest scentilla of an
opportunity to challenge elections, guess what they do. They challenge elections.
And I bet buck there will be a bunch of
members of the Democrat House and a bunch of Democrat
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Senators who are going to claim, by the time certification
happens that Trump didn't actually win and they have issues
with the way the count have happened. I guarantee you
some members of the House and the Senate who are
Democrats are going to deny Trump's election in January? They
have been though, they've been flabbergasted by this the fun
(39:02):
word to say, they've been flabbergasted. They've been slapped down
in a way that they absolutely were not expecting. You know,
I was asked, Clay I gave a speech over the
weekend down here Miami Beach at a conference, and I
was asked, when are the riots.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Going to happen? Now?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Do I think there'll be some Antifa lunatics and stuff
in DC when Trump gets an argument? You know, probably
there's people that, Yeah, those people are just they're losers.
I mean, it's sad, you know, they think that running
around dressed all in black and.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
We're fighting fascism, you know, it's very sad. Lot of
purple hair in that crew.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
By the way, so you noticed we don't say blue
hair anymore because some of you thought we're talking about
old people. Know, we mean people that dye their hair
like unnatural colors of you know, fusia or you know,
like electric pink or something. Okay, there's a lot of
that going on with the anti foot crowd. I would
say there's not going to be any real movement toward
the riots that a lot of us were expecting, though,
(39:55):
just because they got beat so badly that they can't
even I'm gonna do little sports Clay. You ready for this,
you asked. If you lose by four touchdowns and you
complain about the refs, you just get made fun of.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, If you lose by a field goal and you
say that one of those yellow flags got thrown for
the penalty or things, then maybe you have a case, right,
But if you lose by four touchdowns, you just look
like a cry baby.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And Democrats kind of lost by three or four touchdowns here.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
They lost by three or four touchdowns. I also think
to your point, they acknowledge the Hitler thing is so
such a lie. Biden is having lunch with Trump in
the White House on Wednesday. Would you ever have lunch in.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
The White House with Hitler? I mean, they just abandoned
it as soon as they lost.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I mean, honestly, yeah, think about It's quite a philosophy question.
I mean, if Hitler was like inviting you over before
all the really bad stuff happened for lunch, Like, I mean,
are you gonna sit with Hitler and be like, hey,
would you like scrambled.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Would you like eggs over easy? Hey? Maybe some avocado toast? No,
it was all a lie.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
They went from Trump is Hitler to hey, we're gonna
have lunch together in one day.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
So I'm just gonna say I think Trump should come out.
And I've gotten some of you disagree with me in this.
That's fine. I like a little disagreement, you know what
I mean. I'm gonna Thanksgiving in the sextent household just
turns into you know, who is the most right wing
at the table out of the time, So we even
fight even though we agree on stuff. Clay, I would
say I think Trump should broach the topic of pardoning
Hunter because it gives it creates a tone, It creates
(41:35):
a political win for him, a little political capital of
being a reasonable guy, being you know, being a night
just like he was with Hillary. Didn't go after Hillary
after his after his women twenty sixteen. I think Biden's
gonna pardon Biden. You know, Hunter will pardon I'm sorry,
Hunter will part. Joe will pardon Hunter anyway, But why
(41:55):
not just say I just you know, if if Joe
doesn't want to do it, I'll do it. If he
doesn't want to like Sully his with pardoning his own
son as a new president. I would do it because
I don't think Joe would wait for that, But I
think it gets ahead of it in a way where
there's nothing but upside for him.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
A part of me thinks Joe Biden might pardon Trump
while also pardoning Hunter.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
It would be.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
First of all, I think him pardoning Trump create a
lot of upside for him in the legacy department. He
would have won, and he would have been the magnanimous
elder statesman grossly shoved aside by nefarious forces within the
Democrat Party. I was gonna say, if I'm the curator
(42:39):
of the Biden Museum, like this is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Think about it. Book Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It doesn't change the fact that Biden will have gone
after him and been totally the head of a Department
of Justice running rough shot over his political opponents. But
in the history books, when people don't go into the
specific standing everything, it might be seen as an important
olid branch. It also would allow him to then pardon
(43:07):
Hunter and not create the same storm of attention. You
made that call a long time ago, and you may
end up being right in it, and that would be
that would be quite a that would be a distant,
you know, quite a distant prediction hit right on the vans.
And thank you very much in that sort of vein
of a long, long way out prediction. I just say this, Clay,
(43:28):
I also want Trump to and the incoming administration to
just do what they can to calm down the lunatics,
because if they really move forward on these deportations, stuff
is going to get Oh it's I'm telling you, that's gonna.
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Get hot out there. It's gonna get messy out there.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Riley Gains is with us now of OutKick, and she
was a top swimmers, you will call and swim against
the guy who swam. Then as a girl, Riley, appreciate
you being with us. The ad that everybody has been
talking about post election results, So I think after people
(45:37):
have seen what really resonated and what the numbers were,
right now the data are in, and the ad was
She's or he meeting Trump is for you, she meaning
Kamala is for they them? Why was that the single
most effective ad of the entire multi billion dollar political cycle.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
I mean, first of all, it's great to be on
with you. Look that was as effective as it was because,
I mean, say it again out loud, he is for you,
she is for the them. Can you imagine our founding
fathers hearing that. I mean, they wouldn't even understand what
that means. They wouldn't even be able to grasp the
concept of what is being said. But that's the reality
(46:24):
of where we are as a nation now. I mean,
it's seemingly that we have an entire political party that has,
at least in terms of elected representation and how our
media represents this issue, that has i mean embraced this
gender ideology movement wholeheartedly. You've got the whole pronoun thing
(46:44):
like we've just stated, but also calling Latino voters or
Latino individuals latin X. I mean, this just doesn't resonate
with your everyday common sense person. It shows how out
of touch with reality the Democratic Party has and would
certainly continue being if we were to have to live
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through a Harris Walt administration.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Riley, good to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was with you on election night six days ago,
and as the results were coming in, I told you,
I think this election might have been different if Leah
Thomas does not swim against you, and if the absurdity
of that wasn't crystallized, not only with the event itself,
but with you speaking out against it. It happened in Georgia,
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which is a swing state, Riley, you had to swim
against Leah who was from Pennsylvania, which is certainly a
swing state. Sometimes it takes a little while for arguments
to crystallize. Do you think that incident was potentially dispositive
and who ended up winning this race?
Speaker 5 (47:55):
You know what, no doubt I do. Actually, it just
really expedited word of COVID. Honestly, it expedited this this
which showed us which leaders were willing to I mean
emphatically say that men can become women. And again when
you when you do that, your credibility has just been
compromised on every single topic. Why would I believe a
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word that comes out of your mouth on any subject
if you can, if you can look at me and
say confidently that men can become women and vice versa,
or that men can get pregnant, or that menstrual products
belong in boys' bathrooms. Again, these things are absurd, and
so we saw how it affected, of course the presidential election.
But also I think important to note these key senate
(48:41):
races people like I mean we saw, I mean, compare
the two Bob Casey versus Dave McCormick, or someone even
like Ted Cruz versus Colin Alred. Colin Alred is of course,
as someone who in the US House has voted many
many times in favor of putting men into women's sports.
But standing there on the debate, she says, word for word, look,
(49:02):
I'm a Christian, I'm a father. I would never support
these ridiculous ideas. Trying desperately to recant from their positions.
And notice how Kamala Harris was never asked about her
stance specifically on this, and it's because she knew that's
by design. They knew that this is not a winning issue.
Does it pull well in their favor? Therefore they desperately
(49:24):
and effectively honestly try to run from their voting records.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Hey, Riley, do you think that what's going on right
now as the Democrats deal with all of their sadness
at the Trump the sweeping Trump victory, is what we're
seeing a tactical retreat on the men and women's swords,
girls playing against our boys playing against girls. Is it
a tactical retreat or is it a true rethink and
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possible repudiation of the trans agenda, which is effectively that
people can change gender.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Look, I don't think they believed it the entire time.
You really mean to tell me outlets like ESPN for example,
or let's take the NCAA. Uh, these are outlets or
into these that cover men's sports in women's sports. You
really mean to tell me they believe that men can
become women, that there's no difference between a man getting
(50:23):
on the softball field versus the baseball field or a
man teeing off of a woman's team. No, of course, they
knew that, So I don't think they believed it from
the very beginning of this whole thing. But now they're realizing, okay,
society is starting to turn around, you know, whatever it is,
whether it's it's you know, driven by dollar signs initially,
(50:43):
and now they're realizing, you know, maybe it's it is
kind of this fringe, absurd idea to go along with this,
to celebrate this, even like they've done. So Look these
Democrats that are coming out, I don't think they ever
believed it, actually know for a fact. I'll tell you
I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress in the
Senate many times. And when I testified before the Senate
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I had Cory Booker come up to me before and
he said, look, you know, I played football at Stanford.
I could never imagine a girl on the field with me.
And that was before the testimony or the hearing. And
then gets on the other side of the table and
starts grilling me and votes in favor of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
So again, it sounds like Corey Booker, by the way,
just if you're wondering, nice, nice in the green room,
but not so nice when he's up grand standing in Congress.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I want to play this for you because I know
you saw this video and it goes to what Buck
just asked, will they run from this or will they
allow left wing activists to continue to dominate the discussion.
So on CNN guy says, Hey, we're trying to have
an autopsy of what happened in the election and boys
trying to play in girl sports. Just listen to this, Riley,
(51:57):
and I want you to be able to react to it.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Are a lot of families out there who don't believe
boys should play girls sports.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
They're not boys. I'm not going to listen to transphobia.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Tirl when you use.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
They're not boys.
Speaker 8 (52:21):
I'm not gonna sit there listen a second, because look,
this is a really heated issue, right and shar Michael,
I know you. I know that you understand that people
have different views on this. I think out of respect
for Jay, like, let's try.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
To Okay, let's cut it there.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Out of respect for Jay, you can't even say what
you actually believe. You've been hearing this for years, Riley.
When you watch that video, what was your reaction?
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Well, I think it speaks more so to the problem
even even maybe bigger than the actual concept of men
in women's sports. It's the whole idea of a grown
man telling another grown man how to speak. And again,
normal people are tired, they're tired of the policing of language.
Call it as you see it, and never ever apologize.
(53:15):
And so I mean, listening to that, it's just the
oldest form of pushing your ideology onto somebody demand. They
can't even speak against it in front of you. I
was hopeful that they had learned right, like we have
addressed here. We saw people like Morning Joe come out
and say, you know, Democrats have handled this really stupidly,
literally used that word. He said, eighty five percent of
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Americans agree that men in women's sports is wrong, but
maybe they didn't learn listening to the rest of this panel,
watch a grown man have a full on temper tantrum
for how he addresses, I mean, accurately addresses a human being.
Calling them what they are is peak absurdity. It really is.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Craziness. Craziness.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Well, we'll have to see how the Democrats try to
deal with this issue going forward to I think that
it is really a symptom of a broader problem they have,
which is the orthodoxy. When the Democrat left rally got
so powerful, so strong, that it became impossible for the
less crazy elements of the Democrat Party to control the
(54:26):
full on true believers of the Democrat Party. And it's
not just on the transition. I think we saw this
on college campuses where there were kids who were taking
over buildings at Columba University and just throwing this giant
tantrum and threatening Jewish students because.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Of what was going on in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Like normal people don't think that's normal behavior or ethical behavior.
Speaker 5 (54:51):
No, no, And the irony of this is these college
students have no idea what they're even protesting. They have
no idea. It's the same rent a mob that shows
up to to college campuses to protest me when I
show up and speak. They have no idea. But you're right,
I think the infiltration of it's virtually every realm, every
institution of our society.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
I don't believe even it's necessarily the gender ideology movement
that has captured our institutions. I believe it's our institutions
that have failed so miserable, miserably, whether it's it's corporate America.
We're seeing how that has played out. We've seen that
through Target and bud Light and things like that. We've
seen it, of course in our educational realm. We've seen
(55:34):
it within our media. We've seen it within our government.
We've seen it within the healthcare profession, the medicalization side
of things. How we have doctors the entire Even at
the end of that clip, if you were to keep
playing that clip, at the end of it, the guy says, look,
don't don't listen to me, just listen to the American
Medical Association or the American Psychiatric Association. We have entire
(55:59):
what used to be consider trustworthy institutions and entities and
corporations and organizations that have I mean said it's totally
cool to chemically and surgically castrate children. I mean, we
will look back at this time. I don't know how
long from now, ten years, twenty years, I hope not
(56:19):
fifty years, but at some point we will look back
at this time and accurately call it what it is. Which, again,
speaking to the medicalization stuff, it's the biggest medical scandal
this world has ever seen. So you're right, it's every realm,
even seemingly our spiritual leaders. I've seen many videos of
pastors coming out now and condemning people saying, you know,
(56:42):
they're going to hell if they have voted for Donald
Trump and they're quoting scripture, and it's just we're seeing
sheep in Wolve's clothing.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
All of that being said, it was incredible to watch
Trump win. I know you felt very validated for the
arguments you've been making. Riley, you just graduated from college recently.
How encouraging was it to you the number of young
men who just said we're over this and showed up
and voted for Trump in record numbers.
Speaker 5 (57:13):
Honestly, I'll tell you it wasn't really surprising for me.
I think for a couple of reasons. One, young people
value free speech. Young people they're there, you're growing up
to college for the first time, you're having to afford
an apartment or whatever it is. So so the economy
I believe was a big part in that. I think
young people too just kind of like to to go
(57:35):
against the status quo. I mean, there's that value in
being rebellious, and I think it was seen as voting
for Donald Trump was the rebellious anti establishment thing. To do,
and I think that's largely part of Look, he's got
this iconic mugshot, he's being shot at, he's being indicted,
he's being I mean, they're trying to bankrupt him, all
(57:56):
of these things that were happening to him that the
Democrats were doing, and an attempt to get him to
go away. Really, I think, especially in talking about young people,
it really only made him more relatable. More of this
this iconic figure that I believe mobilized people to get
to the polls, and not just men. I think a
(58:18):
lot of we sell that. We've seen the numbers and
the shift and even young women compared to four years ago.
So again I think it was it was historic. I mean,
this is really kind of like a once in a
lifetime type of thing. I think, of course, this was
only my second election being able to vote, and this
(58:38):
time compared to four years ago. I mean it just
the vibe shift is entirely there, especially among young people.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Riley Gaines you can check out the podcast at OutKick,
among many other things she is doing to fight for
the right side of sanity. Riley, keep up the good work.
You were instrumental to this result. Thank you for everything.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
You did.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Well. Thank you, guys, appreciate you always.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Thank you. That's Riley Gains.
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Monday edition of The Clay and Buck Show gets going
right now, Veterans' Day edition. Let's kick off this show
with a big thanks from the bottom of our hearts
to every veteran of the United States military. It is
a particular point of pride for Clay and for me
(00:21):
that we have so many veterans and so many active
duty who listen to this show all over the world.
We love when we see our little download maps, and
we have people on military bases in the Koreas and
or sorry South Korea, not both of them, South Korea
and in Germany.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And maybe Kim Jong UN's a big fan too. We
never know, you never know. I mean, we are pretty
we are pretty good. We've been on the money lately.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Kim Jong Un maybe like these guys know something, but no, seriously,
we thank all of the veterans the bottom of our hearts.
What you do is well, what you do makes everything
about America that is beautiful, that is free, and that
is prosperous possible.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So thank you so much. On this Veterans Day.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And I think everybody has said celebrate Trump's victory over
the weekend, will celebrate Veterans Day today. Maybe do something
fun this week or this weekend as well. We have
a lot of news to get to. I've got some
there's sort of the aftermath component of this, and that'll
be a lot of fun because Clay, the libs, the
shattered dreams of the communists, it is so fascinating to wow.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You assess Morning Joe. Now, I know you shared a clip,
but as we'll get into this in detail, I'm sure,
but how would you assess their overall emotional state?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The entire legacy media apparatus is in full gaslighting mode.
Everything that they said before today about Trump is hitler.
It's the end of democracy. They just act like they
didn't say it. They're just moving forward. I'm gonna tell
you there were parts of Morning Joe. I was watching
this morning that you could have aired parts of it
(01:57):
that you could have aired on Fox News and people
would have.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been like, Oh, they gotta get a new show on
Fox News.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
They are moving in a They're talking about how wokeness
is corrosive and how wokeness is crazy and identity politics
is poison. This is on MSNBC, so we will get
into and all of that. Clay, I have some facts
and figures for the aftermath here, but I also want
to say we're going to dive into the future. Last
week was victory dance week, Clay and I doing little
(02:25):
dances do The Trump Dance is amazing, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Probably the most beautiful election of all time. And this
week we can still bask in that glow. But now
the work gets going. Now the agenda, the future, the mission,
the mission of Trump two point zero, save America, save
Western civilization. Along with it that starts right now are
(02:49):
the appointments being made, transition stuff underway, and Clay, the
Senate battle. We'll talk about Senate leadership, how they are
angling to get appointees through recess appointments. A ton of
stuff going on there. So we're gonna switch a little
bit back and forth Today've also got some great guests
come up later, Riley Gains, how much the trans issue
and men and women's sports played into this. At Attorney
(03:12):
General Schmidt will be with us as well, talking about
stuff in this on the Senate side, So we'll dive
into all of that. But Clay, just a few figures
that we have now. Donald Trump has now clinched the
biggest popular vote count by a Republican ever, seventy four
point six million and chain, so we'll call it basically
(03:34):
on the way to seventy five million votes, which beats
the second highest number ever, which was Trump at seventy
four million votes. Eighty percent of counties, eighty percent of
counties nationwide moved to the right in this election.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
House Republicans look like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
They are about to take the majority unless something crazy
happens in California and Arizona. And we've got a couple
of announcements, including Tom Homan as ICE Director. Tom's a
good man, I know Tom, We've had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
At least.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Stefanic coming out of Congress is going to be US
ambasadory the United Nations play. It feels like they're assembling
the A team and they're hitting the ground running.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Steven Miller, our friend who's been on this show a
ton of times, is going to be deputy chief of
Staff underneath of Susie Wiles's leadership. I would, I mean,
so far on the announcements of the new Trump administration,
I think he gets an A plus. There doesn't seem
to be anybody out there that is sort of a sniveling,
(04:39):
you know, like oh, I hope the New York Times
likes me. I hope the Washington Post is going to
be favorable to me. It's just died in the wall.
I know what my role is. I'm gonna show up
and I'm going to go to work, and I love
everything about the move so far. Now we have Attorney
General coming. We'll talk a bit with Eric Schmidt. At
one point thirty Missouri senator. He took himself out of
(05:01):
the running for AG. He's had a lot of wins
when it comes to big tech. We'll see what he
thinks about who the AG is going to be. You
mentioned Riley Gaines is going to be with us, but
I would say AG and Secretary of State Buck are
the next really big announcements to drop. We should also
mention that Trump has said that Nicky Hayley and also
(05:22):
Mike Pompeo will not be in his administration. So he
has gone ahead and kneecapped a couple of people out
there that were being pushed. And we've also got to
figure out Senate Majority leader, which is a big decision
that's going to be made by Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's a huge thing right now because that goes to
the Trump cabinet, it goes to all the appointees that
have to be Senate confirmed. I think there's twenty something
of them. And it goes then to also the machinery
the Senate will have in place for judges. We'll dive
into this play. I was up late last night reading
about all this to make sure that the history and
(05:57):
you know, I have a clarity on how this fight
is likely to transpire. I think you and I agree
that this administration they've got eighteen months to change and
possibly save the country. I mean, that's really how I
see it. They've got eighteen months. It's not four years, yes,
four years for it all to play out. But within
eighteen months they've either set this thing on a footing
(06:20):
that is truly making America great again, or they're getting
stymied by the machine. It is going to be a fight.
No one should have any illusions. The bureaucracy is tough.
The bureaucracy will on the swamp. The fourth branch of
government will fight with everything that they have. You know,
I think you mentioned this. Pompeo and Nikki Haley, they
(06:43):
both ran against Trump, and there he said they're not
welcome in this now to be fair, he was actually
pretty gracious about it. He just said, look, they're great,
love them. They're not a part of this Trump two
point zero term. He wasn't taking swings at them. But
I think that what that is, Clay, is a recognition
that the establishmentarian Republican or the establishment Republican is not
(07:06):
going to be able to kind of work their way
into the center of the Trump administration because he had
too much of that in the first term. Too many
people who all of a sudden thought they knew better
than the commander in chief, and they started going and
winding to the New York Times, and some of them
even ended up turning on him entirely, and you know,
getting contracts at CNN or ABC or whatever. So that's
(07:28):
all where we see it. I got to tell you,
we'll dive into that Senate confirmation issue right now, which
has to do with whether, well, who will be the
Senate majority leader. We know Republicans have won the Senate,
We've got a few candidates, and how should top appointees
go through Because Democrats, I'll give you the backstory on this.
It was incredibly just underhanded and gross what they did
(07:51):
in twenty sixteen to Trump. We'll discuss that, but Clay,
can we just throw out there. I don't know if
you and I have exactly the same picks. I have
a feeling we're pretty similar. We know Stephen Miller, friend
of the show, brilliant guy. Can't say enough good things
about him him being Deputy chief of staff in the
White House, assuming that you know we've been that's been reported.
Couldn't think of a better pick for that. Tom Holman
(08:13):
couldn't think of a better pick for ice. Susie Wiles
just ran the best campaign that we've seen for the
biggest victory we've seen in decades, So you know, congrats
and hats off to her as White House Chief of Staff.
Here's here's my others, if I can throw them out there.
Caroline Levitt for White House Press Secretary, another another friend
of the show. We see talent here. I'm just saying,
(08:34):
we know people who have got the skills. Mike Lee
would Ted Cruz would be great too, but I think
he wants to stay in the Senate. Mike Lee for
Attorney General, what do you think? I think he would
be fabulous. He's super smart.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He understands the mechanics of how the Department of Justice works.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There are guys that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Are not as constitutionally savvy that have been in the mix.
I think that Mike Lee, if he's the choice, and
well ask Eric Schmidt who he thinks the choice could be,
would be a great, great choice because I've said the
Attorney General to me is the most important decision. Trump
has look all of the cabinet matters, but I think
(09:16):
the Department of Justice is more broken right now than
it has ever been in any of our lives. And
we need someone who can go in with a sledgehammer
and just return the Department of Justice to its message,
which is treat everyone equally under the law, regardless of
their politics, race, gender, religion, all those things. And we
(09:37):
haven't had that for so long. This woke identity politics
virus has infected our Department of Justice. Has to be
broken up, has to be fixed. That's the one that
I care about the most. I think Mike Lee, if
he's the choice, would do really well.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, I've heard some names that are in the mix
for our Secretary of State right now, Marco Rubio, Rick Renell,
and we've all these are all the names that are
being bandied about.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Who's the third that's Bill hagrid Senator from Tennessee. Senator Hagridy.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, I think all they're all competent, and I
think they're all dedicated to the Trump mission. So I
don't have a particular standout in mind among that crew.
The Secretary of State under Trump administration is going to
have to deal with dismantling this axis that has grown
big peace in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend
(10:27):
on this where you have now Russia selling its oil
to China and China supporting North Korea with otherwise North
Korea would fall apart in starved death, while North Korea
sends soldiers to fight on the front lines of the
Ukraine War. There is an ax and then using Iranian
and probably North Korean missile technology and sharing that high
(10:51):
level military know how between these various countries. There's some
real concern there. So you have a Secretary of State's
got some big problems, I know, China, Taiwan, Israel. Although
people are saying, do you see Doug Murray on this one?
He was great Doug Murray on the Mid East and
Israel right now. It is the best opportunity I know
Israel has been through hell. We know it was just
(11:12):
the worst imaginable terror tac on October seventh. But the
Israeli people have rallied, they have fought back against their enemies,
and Israel is now in a better place strategically in
the Middle East than anytime I can remember in my lifetime,
because they've just decided the enemies are no longer going
to be allowed to stay on the battlefield. So there's
a lot to do, there, a lot to see. I
just got to say, Clay, overall the feeling, and I'm
(11:33):
talking to people as you are who are working on
this very closely. This Trump team, even they would admit
first time around twenty sixteen, it was kind of like, yeah,
we'll figure it out. You know, we're gonna build the
plane as we fly it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That was what it was. Right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Trump was an outsider. This is looking like a well
oiled machine that wants to get after the agenda day one,
and I love to see.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And when Trump came in in sixteen, remember there were
still a lot of people inside the party that did
not believe in a lot of what he had run on.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That doesn't exist now. So Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We're going to have a Senate majority, sorry, a House majority.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's going to be announced soon. I think maybe as
soon as today.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We'll have officially two eighteen in and then the Senate,
we'll talk about this a lot during the course of
the program, has got to pick their majority leader. But
I think everybody's going to be moving in concert. And
what you said, Buck is so important. You only really
have eighteen months to get things done. Then everybody starts
running for the midterms. Trump will become a lame duck.
(12:35):
Everybody will start running for president right after the midterms.
Eighteen months to alter the trajectory of the country, fix
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We are joined now by Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. Been
fighting a lot of battles with big tech. He's been
on the program several different times. Appreciate you joining us
a senator. And you had some news that came out
(14:38):
a little bit a little bit earlier today about the
Attorney General position, and I saw you tweet about it.
But for our audience out there, what have you decided
as it pertains to potentially joining Trump's cabinet.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, first of all, thanks for the Rick Asley bumper
music on the way in. You appreciate that as a gig. Yes, Sir,
near and dear in my heart. Yeah, it was an
honor to be considered for the AG position. But I
talked to the transition folks and have my name with
drawn from consideration for that really important role because I
think it's important for me to serve up my turning
(15:12):
United States Senate. President Trump needs you know, actual real
America first fighters in the Senate who are going to
move this agenda forward. I mean, he got a mandate
on Tuesday, but we actually have to deliver on that,
and I think that's the that's the place for me
to go do that. So I'll have a role with judges,
taking some judges and then also once we get back
into Congress next year of trying to deliver here. So
(15:34):
that's the right place for me. And again, it was
an honor to be considered to mention, but this is
the right thing I think right now?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Do you know who the ag might be? Do you
give an endorsement as you step out? What do you
think about that role and who might get it?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well, it's an important one, and you know there's some
names that are out there, and I don't want to
get too far ahead of the president on any of that,
but I'm always willing to sort of weigh in and
I do intend to be helpful between now in January
and then beyond. I mean, there's a lot of things
that there's a lot of important positions. AG's one of them.
There's going to be a lot of judges to fill.
That's another thing that a lot of people aren't talking
(16:10):
about yet. He's going to have an opportunity again to
sort of remake the federal judiciary and continue to put
judges who interpret the law as it's written, not how
they want it to be. The people that Joe Biden
is picking here now are just activists, many of which
have no experience at all, but they just want to
deliver the results, and that's really not what it's for.
(16:30):
So he's got a great opportunity. I think here he's
going to put together an incredible cabinet. I know that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What do you think about the possibility of some major
appointment senator happening in a recess that is essentially, you know,
pre planned, so that that can happen without the intransigence
and the obstruction that Trump faced in twenty sixteen when
he was being slowed down and prevented in ways that
(16:59):
we're bordering on just absurd to prevent him from getting
the people that he wanted in those key roles.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Would you agree that's the way forward? Or do you
think that with regular order the.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Democrats will fall in line enough that it won't make
that much of a difference and there can be the
speeches and the votes and all the rest of it
to get through nominations.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, I think the reci'ch appointments. He's put that out there.
I think it's a good idea. I think we should
move forward on it. I also think that if we're
pretty clear when we get up there, that you know,
we've got the numbers, we've got them chorty, and we're united,
we can accomplish all these things. And I tell you
the Democrats are good at this when they get these
sort of opportunities. And that's exactly what we have to do.
(17:40):
I mean, in President Trump was really clear about what
he wants to do. I mean, in addition to the appointments,
but we're going to secure the border, we're going to
be energy dominant, we're going to have an economy that
works for real people and working people, and we're going
to be respected around the world. All of those things
can happen. And by by the way, the ninety four
executive orders that Joe Biden undid when president when they
(18:02):
got into office, that you know, turned around all the
successes we had at a forty five year low, and
the legal immigration when Trump left, I fully expect him
coming in and doing that to remain in Mexico policy
was incredibly effective. I fully anticipate that coming back on board,
and then whatever we need to back to the legislatively
to give him additional authorities, we can do that. And
(18:22):
then on the permitting and on the leasing. A lot
of these things can be done when you've got the
White House. But I will tell you one thing to
sort of look out for a lot of those tax
cuts that came into play in twenty seventeen for middle
class families and small businesses, those all expire at the
end of twenty twenty five, and so we can move
those things, get those permanently extended. And here's the sort
(18:43):
of in the leads. We can do that by way
of a process of reconciliation where you don't need sixty votes,
you just need fifty one votes in the Senate, and
so I think we do that. On tax reform, one
of the things that I'm going to advocate for is
regulatory reform as well, because there's a lot of budget savings,
which is the key that can come by way of
regulatory reform that we ought to have in that bill.
(19:04):
So I would justiciaate we'll spend a lot of time
on that too.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Coming back, we're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri
big decision Wednesday as to who the Senate Majority Leader
will be. I believe Wednesday is the vote. There are
three known finalists out there, Thune, Cornyn, and Scott. Have
you made your decision about how you will vote? How
would you assess the horse race? So to speak? Of
(19:28):
the Wednesday decision on Senate Majority Leader?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's hard to know. I'm not sure any the three
of them who I'm talking to all the time know
either actually where the votes are all at. I think
the input that you get from from folks back home
is all good. But wait, I'm hearing all of them
out and I mean that sincerely, Like I'm talking to
people literally today. There's a candidate forum tomorrow what is it, Monday?
(19:53):
Tomorrow night. When we get back up there, I think
there's a lot of people who still haven't made their
mind up. And here's what's important to me, and this
is what I communicate, and I'm just again wanting to
hear what the response is. I want an agenda that
is reflective of what the American people want, what they
voted for on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I will tell you my first two years up there,
the biggest disappointment often is that the conversations in Washington
are so detached from what people really talk about at home.
Like you know, when people say the most important thing
that we need to do is send another sixty billion
dollars to Ukraine. Literally, nobody in Missouri has ever told
me that. No, not one person has said, Eric, that's
(20:33):
the most important thing you can do when you go
up to Washington. But in our lunches, in just sort
of that to poon that people live in in DC,
that is a lot of the conversation. So I want
an agenda that's reflective what real people want. And also
there's some reform. These omnibus bills at midnight, where two
or three people are writing the bill, people don't read them,
(20:55):
and you vote them. That has to end, Like, let's
do individual appropriations bills have real amendments. I think that's
what people think we do up there. But a lot
of it's kabuki theater and very scripted, and that has
to change. So those are the two things that I'm
talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know, with the people who are running, do you
think that their senator is any appetite for well, I'll
just say it, for deciding that the filibuster as a
means to prevent Trump's agenda from being achieved, may have
to be something that, as Trump would say, you're going
to look at.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, I think everything's sort of on the table. But
I think one of the big concerns, of course, is
that the Democrats have run on this, specifically if the
Philibuster's gone to pack the court, you know, to pack
the court at states of the Union, federalized elections and
grant amnesty to fifteen million people. So I think everything
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can be on the table, I think about it. But
also if you did it, what would you do? What
are the Democrats willing to do? Right So there's not
I don't think any real discussion about that right now.
But but again I think that moving forward, we have
to be able to deliver I think for the American people.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Senator, right now, California's only counted about seventy two percent
of its overall ballots. You mentioned federal elections. We're fortunate
that Trump won by such a substantial majority that the
electoral college wasn't thrown into question, but Nevada, Arizona it's
taken them forever to count. How do we go back
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to elections being decided in at least twenty four hours,
because it certainly seems to a lot of us like
we're going back in time and now count vote slower
than we did in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. My hope, honestly, guys, is that this system, it
doesn't help anybody. Okay, so just take yourself out of
our red and blue jerseys for a minute. The idea
that you don't know for a week who won is insane.
It doesn't happen anywhere in the world. It only furthers
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the belief in the distrust right in our system, and
that just has to change. Now. I think that there
are probably some things you can do on the federal level,
but as Republicans who sort of adopted this position that
this should be this is a state decision, right, like
how you run the elections. The states sort of decide
these things. But what you're starting to see what the
Democrats want to do is have federal laws that don't
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allow you to have voter ID, you know, like those
are the sorts of things that they want to do.
I don't think even in Democrat states this is a
good thing. So I think persuasion is a piece of it.
I think photo ID one of the things that we
can do on a federal level, which we should do,
which is the Save Act, which is to make sure
that illegal immigrants aren't voting in our elections. For the
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people who tell you it's already illegal, we don't need
to do anything. Well, it's also illegal to be here
illegally like, but people do it. And once you get
a driver's license, which you can get as an illegal immigrant,
all you got to do the DMV is just say
yes when they ask you, do you want to register
to vote. No one really checks it after that unless
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there's something crazy that happen. So there are some things
we should do. But this wasn't controversial, guys. Even just
like a decade ago, there was the Carter Banker Commission.
They had ten recommendations, many of them were same day,
you know, make sure you have the election results come
in that day, have voter ID if you're going to
have mail in baling, make sure you have signature verification.
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I think that maybe the Democrat, if they've learned their
lesson these crazy positions they've taken have been rejected by
the American people, and they come back a little bit.
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We'll talking to Senator Schmidt of Missouri and one more
for you, Senator. It seems like Chuck Schumer is playing
some games here, not allowing Dave McCormick, who is clearly,
by the vote of the people of Pennsylvania going to
be the next Senator from that state. But he's not
being invited to orientation by Schumer. What the heck is
going on.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
He's being a baby, is what's going on? Just apl
move on the APUs call it I and Mike Lee
and some others have offered to escort mister McCormick to
his orientation if that is necessary. All of this is
just well, you guys have to understand, and you know,
and your listeners probably to some degree, Chuck Schumer is
a total control freak. Like this guy consolidates power and
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wants to execute it. He can't handle the fact that
he lost one of his incumbents loss to stay like Pennsylvania.
So he's just throwing kind of a temper tantrum. But
Dave McCormick has every right to be there. The people
of Pennsylvania deserve to have their senator understand where like
the bathrooms are and get their letter head together and
start to get you know, phone lines, operating for constituent issues.
(25:42):
So these are the things that you start to do
in that orientation, because you know, I was there two
years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
There's a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I mean, it's it's a new gig, it's a new town.
You got to hire staff, and we will make sure
that he gets off to a good start. So I'm
confident that he'll be there. And if he needs somebody
to help him get in the door, I'll have to help.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Senator. She might appreciate you, Sarah, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
All right, guys, take care.
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Speaker 1 (27:36):
I feel good and indeed, Clay, I knew that I would.
With the Trump victory here, it is fantastic. Feels like
the country like a weight has been lifted. The future
is writer for all Americans, even those who unfortunately voted
for COMMLA. But that's okay, It's gonna be better for
all Americans. Things might get a little complicated for some
(27:59):
illegals who have come in the country and committed crimes
in particular while they're here, But for Americans, I think
the future is very bright, indeed, and we should talk
about what that looks like, what the mission is. I
just want to go back to this in case you
weren't with us in the first how or some important
stats here for the victory as more numbers are coming in.
(28:19):
First off, we know we have a Trump victory. We
know we have a popular vote win by Donald Trump.
Seventy five million approximately votes for Donald Trump, beating the
seventy four million that he got in twenty twenty. Eighty
percent of counties moved to the right nationwide, eighty percent
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of counties overall became more Republican. And you have lots
and lots of data to look at, and we'll have
more also on the different breakdowns demographics. Clay was talking
about how the youth vote much stronger for Trump than
a lot of people anticipated. And I do if I made.
There was a moment in time in August when Kamala
(29:02):
Harris was all, Oh my.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Gosh, Kamala Harrison is going to win. It's amazing. The
media was running the playbook.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh she's up in all the swing states over night,
and oh and I Clay, Now, this wasn't a bet.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
This was just a prediction.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But I gotta say this was in August, in the
darkest moments for the Trump campaign, at least according to
the media. I don't think Trump campaign believed any of
this crap. But this was the prediction I made in
August of this year. Play twenty five. It's gonna be okay,
Trump's gonna win this thing, all right, I have I
have faith that he's gonna win, and he's gonna win solidly.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think. I'll tell you this. It marked this prediction down.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than
he beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
There you go. Who would have seen that coming? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Remember what we felt like in twenty sixteen. I think
he will beat Kamala Harris in the electoral college by
a wider margin than he beat Hillary Clinton. I think
that will actually happen this time.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You Where were you broadcasting from?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It sounds like you were on a submarine somewhere in
like the North Atlantic. I was in a freedom bunker
in the woods somewhere in August.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know, as one does, no worries about it.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But I'm just saying the face was there bigger electoral
win for sure, you nailed that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
When this reminds me of when you watch an old
highlight and you're like, why is the did HD not
exist there? Like I don't know where that It does sound.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Like you were.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You were maybe on in the middle of the hunt
for Red October, like having to send up the con
to be able to reach everybody, but you were confident.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You did not waiver.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
From the moment that Kamalo was elevated on I believe
July twenty first, if I remember correctly that Sunday, you
never doubted. I got nervous about the time, probably when
you were when you were saying that. And look, I
mean the one thing I got right as we got
closer was Trump won the popular vote, and buck, I
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think that is making it almost impossible for Democrats to
know how to respond to this, because you know, if
he had won the electoral college, they'd be all out
there screaming about how we had to abolish the electoral college.
When you win the electoral college and the popular vote,
and you win by the biggest margin of any Republican
since nineteen eighty eight, the talking points aren't there to
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be able to really attack Trump, like what angled can
you even go.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
After him on?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I have to say, I think that some of the
legacy Democrat media was really hoping that it would at
least be close enough that there would be this case
to be made that they could, you know, they could
stick to everything that they did, and they did everything great.
The people who have come out and said that Kamala ran,
and there have been a number of them, a perfect campaign,
(31:49):
and she was a great candidate, and the Democrat message
was very powerful and strong. It's just racism and sexism
that stopped her from winning, are being laughed at, not
just by report publicans, They're actually being laughed at pretty
broadly by some powerful voices within the Democrat tent who
have just said, you know, the things, you know, prioritizing transagenda,
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illegal immigrants, the rights of criminals, these are things that people,
normal people don't react well to and you need to
win a few percent of the country nationally that are
in that sort of normy vote if you will.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And they didn't. And this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And I think it's a profound It should be a
profound lesson play Do you think they learned the lesson
or do you think they just they run the same playbook?
They say, Donald Trump just ran again. Why can't we
just run the same playbook next time? A lot of
them are not going to learn the lesson. I think
the question we will find out of whether they learn
the lesson or not will come in how the twenty
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twenty eight Democrat presidential primary plays itself out.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
And let me explain.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Why I think that in twenty twenty Democrats have lost
their mind. You can argue that Kamala Harris didn't lose
the twenty twenty four race. Actually, in the twenty twenty
four race, she lost it when she said she opposed fracking.
She lost it when she said she supported transgender surgery
for illegal immigrant inmates. She lost it when she tried
to ban plastic straw. She lost it when she said
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the border wall was racist. All of those things were
said in twenty twenty and then she did a poor
job as vice president. I'm curious to see buck when
everybody throws their hat in and they start running in
twenty twenty eight, will there be a Bill Clinton like
figure who I remember? Clinton rose from the ashes of
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the Ronald Reagan double win, of the George H. W.
Bush win and tried to run as a somewhat centrist Democrat,
and then he got over his skis in ninety two.
By ninety four, Republican revolution happens, and in ninety six
he's basically running as a Republican. If you go back
and remember that race, seat tried to triangulate with Dick
(34:02):
Morris some intern issues. But will there be sanity because
right now what you're seeing is we played that clip
from CNN of that crazy left winger. The left wing
is still trying to police what Democrats can say. And
as long as the left wing is out there saying
you can't say that that's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist,
(34:24):
whatever you want to say, you can't actually have honest
conversations in the Democrat Party in the public arena. Most
of these people out there, deep down understand how crazy
this is let me give you another point on this buck,
this transports issue, which we're going to talk about with
Riley Gains here in a bit. Do you know Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris neither one has still been asked
(34:48):
if they support boys who identify as girls being able
to play in girls sports. That has never been asked
of either person. Biden's been in office for almost four years,
not one question about it. Kamala got asked by Brett
Bayer about the illegal surgery for or transgender surgery for
illegal immigrants, but not about girls sports particularly. This is evidence,
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I think of the media trying to protect them because
they know that it's an incredible weakness of the Democrat Party,
and however they answer it, they're going to get attacked.
I've said, it's still crazy to me that Biden never
has had to answer this question, and it's the number
one question that I would ask if I were sitting
down talking to Kamalo or Biden, because to me, it
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goes to the essence of.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
This I also have a question that I would want
to ask Clay what happened to the ten million voters?
Jim Jordan, our friend in Congress the end of the
show good Man. He asked this question on CNN State
of the Union. This has cut eleven. Let's play it.
There were false plans about election fraud when Donald Trump lost.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
This time Donald Trump won, and you think the election
was free and fair. You see, there's a little bit.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Of a no.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
I think theres got to ask why dood you go
from getting eighty one million to getting seventy million? What
happened to those ten million people? I think it's because
they had no vision, no record to run on, and
they just wanted to call everyone names. Turns out when
you turns out when you when you you tell people, oh,
your fascist, racist, deplorable garbage, they don't like that. And
then when you use lawfare to go after their candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
They don't like that either.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now he's just saying on the messaging front, they you know,
they lost ten million votes and should have some soul searching.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
That's a lot of votes to lose, even for a
really bad campaign. I'm just putting that out there. I'm
not I'm not convinced. It's just Kamala was a bad candidate.
Remember when when say your name wrong was they got
so huffy about it. The media like, oh, dare you
know Trump would be.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like Kamala Kamala, and they would just flip out about it.
You know, they should have focused on some more important things.
This is also evidence it raises the question I thought
Eric Schmidt said this well in the second hour the program,
Missouri Senator, I don't see it as partisan at all
that you should have to get your votes counted in
twenty four hours. Twenty four hours seems like a really
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broad arena to figure out how votes win. California, as
I speak to you right now, according to the New
York Times, Buck has still only counted seventy two percent
of the votes that were cast.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It's been six days.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
The reason why we don't officially have a winner of
the House yet is because we have normalized week long.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Plus counting expeditions.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I will just point out, only by the grace
of Donald Trump's landslide, are we not all sitting around
waiting to see what's going to happen in Arizona and
Nevada to be able to pick a president. Trump already
had the majority on election night, thankfully, but Nevada and
Arizona are still counting. Do any of you feel like
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we would get a reliable count a week after the
election actually took place.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It can't happen.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
The longer the counting takes, the less confidence anyone has Republican, Democrat,
Independent in the actual tally. And in fact, the one
race that's still significant where the counting is still going
on and they're trying to extend it is in Pennsylvania,
where they're trying to take away Dave McCormick from his win.
Now he's got a forty thousand vote lead. The AP
(38:18):
has called it. He's going to be the Senator from Pennsylvania.
But all the people out there who told you you
have to respect democracy and you can't deny elections, as
soon as they have the tinest, tiniest scentilla of an
opportunity to challenge elections, guess what they do. They challenge elections.
And I bet buck there will be a bunch of
members of the Democrat House and a bunch of Democrat
(38:41):
Senators who are going to claim, by the time certification
happens that Trump didn't actually win and they have issues
with the way the count have happened. I guarantee you
some members of the House and the Senate who are
Democrats are going to deny Trump's election in January? They
have been though, they've been flabbergasted by this the fun
(39:02):
word to say, they've been flabbergasted. They've been slapped down
in a way that they absolutely were not expecting. You know,
I was asked, Clay I gave a speech over the
weekend down here Miami Beach at a conference, and I
was asked, when are the riots.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Going to happen? Now?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Do I think there'll be some Antifa lunatics and stuff
in DC when Trump gets an argument? You know, probably
there's people that, Yeah, those people are just they're losers.
I mean, it's sad, you know, they think that running
around dressed all in black and.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
We're fighting fascism, you know, it's very sad. Lot of
purple hair in that crew.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
By the way, so you noticed we don't say blue
hair anymore because some of you thought we're talking about
old people. Know, we mean people that dye their hair
like unnatural colors of you know, fusia or you know,
like electric pink or something. Okay, there's a lot of
that going on with the anti foot crowd. I would
say there's not going to be any real movement toward
the riots that a lot of us were expecting, though,
(39:55):
just because they got beat so badly that they can't
even I'm gonna do little sports Clay. You ready for this,
you asked. If you lose by four touchdowns and you
complain about the refs, you just get made fun of.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, If you lose by a field goal and you
say that one of those yellow flags got thrown for
the penalty or things, then maybe you have a case, right,
But if you lose by four touchdowns, you just look
like a cry baby.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And Democrats kind of lost by three or four touchdowns here.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
They lost by three or four touchdowns. I also think
to your point, they acknowledge the Hitler thing is so
such a lie. Biden is having lunch with Trump in
the White House on Wednesday. Would you ever have lunch in.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
The White House with Hitler? I mean, they just abandoned
it as soon as they lost.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
I mean, honestly, yeah, think about It's quite a philosophy question.
I mean, if Hitler was like inviting you over before
all the really bad stuff happened for lunch, Like, I mean,
are you gonna sit with Hitler and be like, hey,
would you like scrambled.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Would you like eggs over easy? Hey? Maybe some avocado toast? No,
it was all a lie.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
They went from Trump is Hitler to hey, we're gonna
have lunch together in one day.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
So I'm just gonna say I think Trump should come out.
And I've gotten some of you disagree with me in this.
That's fine. I like a little disagreement, you know what
I mean. I'm gonna Thanksgiving in the sextent household just
turns into you know, who is the most right wing
at the table out of the time, So we even
fight even though we agree on stuff. Clay, I would
say I think Trump should broach the topic of pardoning
Hunter because it gives it creates a tone, It creates
(41:35):
a political win for him, a little political capital of
being a reasonable guy, being you know, being a night
just like he was with Hillary. Didn't go after Hillary
after his after his women twenty sixteen. I think Biden's
gonna pardon Biden. You know, Hunter will pardon I'm sorry,
Hunter will part. Joe will pardon Hunter anyway, But why
(41:55):
not just say I just you know, if if Joe
doesn't want to do it, I'll do it. If he
doesn't want to like Sully his with pardoning his own
son as a new president. I would do it because
I don't think Joe would wait for that, But I
think it gets ahead of it in a way where
there's nothing but upside for him.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
A part of me thinks Joe Biden might pardon Trump
while also pardoning Hunter.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
It would be.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
First of all, I think him pardoning Trump create a
lot of upside for him in the legacy department. He
would have won, and he would have been the magnanimous
elder statesman grossly shoved aside by nefarious forces within the
Democrat Party. I was gonna say, if I'm the curator
(42:39):
of the Biden Museum, like this is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Think about it. Book Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It doesn't change the fact that Biden will have gone
after him and been totally the head of a Department
of Justice running rough shot over his political opponents. But
in the history books, when people don't go into the
specific standing everything, it might be seen as an important
olid branch. It also would allow him to then pardon
(43:07):
Hunter and not create the same storm of attention. You
made that call a long time ago, and you may
end up being right in it, and that would be
that would be quite a that would be a distant,
you know, quite a distant prediction hit right on the vans.
And thank you very much in that sort of vein
of a long, long way out prediction. I just say this, Clay,
(43:28):
I also want Trump to and the incoming administration to
just do what they can to calm down the lunatics,
because if they really move forward on these deportations, stuff
is going to get Oh it's I'm telling you, that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Get hot out there. It's gonna get messy out there.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Riley Gains is with us now of OutKick, and she
was a top swimmers, you will call and swim against
the guy who swam. Then as a girl, Riley, appreciate
you being with us. The ad that everybody has been
talking about post election results, So I think after people
(45:37):
have seen what really resonated and what the numbers were,
right now the data are in, and the ad was
She's or he meeting Trump is for you, she meaning
Kamala is for they them? Why was that the single
most effective ad of the entire multi billion dollar political cycle.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
I mean, first of all, it's great to be on
with you. Look that was as effective as it was because,
I mean, say it again out loud, he is for you,
she is for the them. Can you imagine our founding
fathers hearing that. I mean, they wouldn't even understand what
that means. They wouldn't even be able to grasp the
concept of what is being said. But that's the reality
(46:24):
of where we are as a nation now. I mean,
it's seemingly that we have an entire political party that has,
at least in terms of elected representation and how our
media represents this issue, that has i mean embraced this
gender ideology movement wholeheartedly. You've got the whole pronoun thing
(46:44):
like we've just stated, but also calling Latino voters or
Latino individuals latin X. I mean, this just doesn't resonate
with your everyday common sense person. It shows how out
of touch with reality the Democratic Party has and would
certainly continue being if we were to have to live
(47:05):
through a Harris Walt administration.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Riley, good to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was with you on election night six days ago,
and as the results were coming in, I told you,
I think this election might have been different if Leah
Thomas does not swim against you, and if the absurdity
of that wasn't crystallized, not only with the event itself,
but with you speaking out against it. It happened in Georgia,
(47:33):
which is a swing state, Riley, you had to swim
against Leah who was from Pennsylvania, which is certainly a
swing state. Sometimes it takes a little while for arguments
to crystallize. Do you think that incident was potentially dispositive
and who ended up winning this race?
Speaker 5 (47:55):
You know what, no doubt I do. Actually, it just
really expedited word of COVID. Honestly, it expedited this this
which showed us which leaders were willing to I mean
emphatically say that men can become women. And again when
you when you do that, your credibility has just been
compromised on every single topic. Why would I believe a
(48:18):
word that comes out of your mouth on any subject
if you can, if you can look at me and
say confidently that men can become women and vice versa,
or that men can get pregnant, or that menstrual products
belong in boys' bathrooms. Again, these things are absurd, and
so we saw how it affected, of course the presidential election.
But also I think important to note these key senate
(48:41):
races people like I mean we saw, I mean, compare
the two Bob Casey versus Dave McCormick, or someone even
like Ted Cruz versus Colin Alred. Colin Alred is of course,
as someone who in the US House has voted many
many times in favor of putting men into women's sports.
But standing there on the debate, she says, word for word, look,
(49:02):
I'm a Christian, I'm a father. I would never support
these ridiculous ideas. Trying desperately to recant from their positions.
And notice how Kamala Harris was never asked about her
stance specifically on this, and it's because she knew that's
by design. They knew that this is not a winning issue.
Does it pull well in their favor? Therefore they desperately
(49:24):
and effectively honestly try to run from their voting records.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Hey, Riley, do you think that what's going on right
now as the Democrats deal with all of their sadness
at the Trump the sweeping Trump victory, is what we're
seeing a tactical retreat on the men and women's swords,
girls playing against our boys playing against girls. Is it
a tactical retreat or is it a true rethink and
(49:52):
possible repudiation of the trans agenda, which is effectively that
people can change gender.
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Look, I don't think they believed it the entire time.
You really mean to tell me outlets like ESPN for example,
or let's take the NCAA. Uh, these are outlets or
into these that cover men's sports in women's sports. You
really mean to tell me they believe that men can
become women, that there's no difference between a man getting
(50:23):
on the softball field versus the baseball field or a
man teeing off of a woman's team. No, of course, they
knew that, So I don't think they believed it from
the very beginning of this whole thing. But now they're realizing, okay,
society is starting to turn around, you know, whatever it is,
whether it's it's you know, driven by dollar signs initially,
(50:43):
and now they're realizing, you know, maybe it's it is
kind of this fringe, absurd idea to go along with this,
to celebrate this, even like they've done. So Look these
Democrats that are coming out, I don't think they ever
believed it, actually know for a fact. I'll tell you
I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress in the
Senate many times. And when I testified before the Senate
(51:07):
I had Cory Booker come up to me before and
he said, look, you know, I played football at Stanford.
I could never imagine a girl on the field with me.
And that was before the testimony or the hearing. And
then gets on the other side of the table and
starts grilling me and votes in favor of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
So again, it sounds like Corey Booker, by the way,
just if you're wondering, nice, nice in the green room,
but not so nice when he's up grand standing in Congress.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I want to play this for you because I know
you saw this video and it goes to what Buck
just asked, will they run from this or will they
allow left wing activists to continue to dominate the discussion.
So on CNN guy says, Hey, we're trying to have
an autopsy of what happened in the election and boys
trying to play in girl sports. Just listen to this, Riley,
(51:57):
and I want you to be able to react to it.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Are a lot of families out there who don't believe
boys should play girls sports.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
They're not boys. I'm not going to listen to transphobia.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Tirl when you use.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
They're not boys.
Speaker 8 (52:21):
I'm not gonna sit there listen a second, because look,
this is a really heated issue, right and shar Michael,
I know you. I know that you understand that people
have different views on this. I think out of respect
for Jay, like, let's try.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
To Okay, let's cut it there.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Out of respect for Jay, you can't even say what
you actually believe. You've been hearing this for years, Riley.
When you watch that video, what was your reaction?
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Well, I think it speaks more so to the problem
even even maybe bigger than the actual concept of men
in women's sports. It's the whole idea of a grown
man telling another grown man how to speak. And again,
normal people are tired, they're tired of the policing of language.
Call it as you see it, and never ever apologize.
(53:15):
And so I mean, listening to that, it's just the
oldest form of pushing your ideology onto somebody demand. They
can't even speak against it in front of you. I
was hopeful that they had learned right, like we have
addressed here. We saw people like Morning Joe come out
and say, you know, Democrats have handled this really stupidly,
literally used that word. He said, eighty five percent of
(53:37):
Americans agree that men in women's sports is wrong, but
maybe they didn't learn listening to the rest of this panel,
watch a grown man have a full on temper tantrum
for how he addresses, I mean, accurately addresses a human being.
Calling them what they are is peak absurdity. It really is.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Craziness. Craziness.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Well, we'll have to see how the Democrats try to
deal with this issue going forward to I think that
it is really a symptom of a broader problem they have,
which is the orthodoxy. When the Democrat left rally got
so powerful, so strong, that it became impossible for the
less crazy elements of the Democrat Party to control the
(54:26):
full on true believers of the Democrat Party. And it's
not just on the transition. I think we saw this
on college campuses where there were kids who were taking
over buildings at Columba University and just throwing this giant
tantrum and threatening Jewish students because.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Of what was going on in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Like normal people don't think that's normal behavior or ethical behavior.
Speaker 5 (54:51):
No, no, And the irony of this is these college
students have no idea what they're even protesting. They have
no idea. It's the same rent a mob that shows
up to to college campuses to protest me when I
show up and speak. They have no idea. But you're right,
I think the infiltration of it's virtually every realm, every
institution of our society.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (55:14):
I don't believe even it's necessarily the gender ideology movement
that has captured our institutions. I believe it's our institutions
that have failed so miserable, miserably, whether it's it's corporate America.
We're seeing how that has played out. We've seen that
through Target and bud Light and things like that. We've
seen it, of course in our educational realm. We've seen
(55:34):
it within our media. We've seen it within our government.
We've seen it within the healthcare profession, the medicalization side
of things. How we have doctors the entire Even at
the end of that clip, if you were to keep
playing that clip, at the end of it, the guy says, look,
don't don't listen to me, just listen to the American
Medical Association or the American Psychiatric Association. We have entire
(55:59):
what used to be consider trustworthy institutions and entities and
corporations and organizations that have I mean said it's totally
cool to chemically and surgically castrate children. I mean, we
will look back at this time. I don't know how
long from now, ten years, twenty years, I hope not
(56:19):
fifty years, but at some point we will look back
at this time and accurately call it what it is. Which, again,
speaking to the medicalization stuff, it's the biggest medical scandal
this world has ever seen. So you're right, it's every realm,
even seemingly our spiritual leaders. I've seen many videos of
pastors coming out now and condemning people saying, you know,
(56:42):
they're going to hell if they have voted for Donald
Trump and they're quoting scripture, and it's just we're seeing
sheep in Wolve's clothing.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
All of that being said, it was incredible to watch
Trump win. I know you felt very validated for the
arguments you've been making. Riley, you just graduated from college recently.
How encouraging was it to you the number of young
men who just said we're over this and showed up
and voted for Trump in record numbers.
Speaker 5 (57:13):
Honestly, I'll tell you it wasn't really surprising for me.
I think for a couple of reasons. One, young people
value free speech. Young people they're there, you're growing up
to college for the first time, you're having to afford
an apartment or whatever it is. So so the economy
I believe was a big part in that. I think
young people too just kind of like to to go
(57:35):
against the status quo. I mean, there's that value in
being rebellious, and I think it was seen as voting
for Donald Trump was the rebellious anti establishment thing. To do,
and I think that's largely part of Look, he's got
this iconic mugshot, he's being shot at, he's being indicted,
he's being I mean, they're trying to bankrupt him, all
(57:56):
of these things that were happening to him that the
Democrats were doing, and an attempt to get him to
go away. Really, I think, especially in talking about young people,
it really only made him more relatable. More of this
this iconic figure that I believe mobilized people to get
to the polls, and not just men. I think a
(58:18):
lot of we sell that. We've seen the numbers and
the shift and even young women compared to four years ago.
So again I think it was it was historic. I mean,
this is really kind of like a once in a
lifetime type of thing. I think, of course, this was
only my second election being able to vote, and this
(58:38):
time compared to four years ago. I mean it just
the vibe shift is entirely there, especially among young people.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Riley Gaines you can check out the podcast at OutKick,
among many other things she is doing to fight for
the right side of sanity. Riley, keep up the good work.
You were instrumental to this result. Thank you for everything.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
You did.
Speaker 5 (59:02):
Well. Thank you, guys, appreciate you always.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Thank you. That's Riley Gains.
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