February 4, 2025 • 62 mins
Turning the tables. Super Bowl picks and racist Rep. Crockett. NFL ends racism. Should DOGE audit the IRS?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay and Buck Show kicks off
right now, also known as The Clay Travison Talk Sexton Show,
but easier.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
To say to the short one.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And we've got a lot to talk to you about today,
So brevity was he let's dive into it. Senate Finance
Committee has advanced RFK Junior's nomination. Looking pretty good for
HHS Secretary Tolsei Gabbard, also looking good cash, but tell
looking good. Trump's team coming together beautifully, and Elon is
(00:35):
going full Twitter on the Feds. And by that I
mean remember when he cut eighty percent of Twitter's staff
and everyone said.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Who is going to turn on the computers?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And now Twitter is more important and functions better than
it ever had before. Elon is taking that same mindset
at least and going after the federal government. There's an
incredible piece today in the New York Times. It's supposed
to be a hit piece, I think on Elon and
(01:09):
just how off the rails he and his team of
twenty somethings, one of them is nineteen years old. Elon
has essentially grabbed a bunch of one forty iq twenty
somethings to sleep on cots in the Office of Personnel
Management in DC, to work in offices at the old
(01:31):
Executive Office building, all with Trump's stamp of approval and
blessing to just go get it done, do the mission.
They've gotten access to the Treasury Department's payment system, They've
gotten access inside of OPM, which is the HR for
all of federal government employees. They have shut down the
US Aid Office in DC, and all of.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
This is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know what Elon says Clay about the amount out
of fraud that he thinks is happening with the federal
government every year, meaning the amount of money that the
federal government is paying that it should not pay. That
is fraud he's estimating. And remember he has super user
access everybody, you know, he's he can see it. He thinks, Clay,
(02:19):
we are at seven hundred billion dollars of fraud. Now,
for those of us who've been screaming and pounding the
table for a long time now, certainly over a decade.
You know, the the estimate for Medicare fraud alone is
sixty to eighty billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So once you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Start to piece and patch all these things together, it
doesn't seem like it's crazy at all to have that number.
Although that number is jaw dropping, right, it seems like
this is very possible. Clay Elon has been unleashed. We'll
get to the AOC thing at a second, but I
think people seeing these numbers, it's it's pretty staggering, and
it's also really encouraging that some one's finally doing something
(03:01):
about this. Well that's the thing, right, that we're finally
getting to it. Let me just kind of put this
context out there for you. Democrats are in a position
now where they are arguing we need remember this was
their huge argument a couple of years ago, we need
eighty seven thousand new IRS agents to catch all the
(03:23):
tax cheats out there.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You me, all of you out there listening.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The half of Americans remember, it's only half the half
of Americans that actually pay federal income tax This is
a staggering stat that I should be talked about more.
Only half of Americans pay federal income taxes. That's something
other than payroll taxes. This is you finish all of
your work for the year, and you are paying something
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other than payroll taxes. Only half. Okay, it's an incredibly
insane number. They want eighty seven thousand new agents to
go after the half of people that that are actually
paying tax in this country federal income tax. And if
you opposed it at all, you are an indefensible cheat.
But we opposed it on this show because we pointed
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out everybody thinks, oh, they're only going to go after
the billionaires. They're already doing that. I'm being audited every year.
They're already doing that. Donald Trump way richer than me.
He's getting audited every year. They're already coming after people
who pay substantial amounts of tax, the vast majority, and
this has been proven out. When they expand IRS enforcement,
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they're going to come to a large extent for people
that are not super wealthy but that pay taxes. Okay,
you run a small business, they're going to be pouring
over your books, Okay, they want to do that, But
they simultaneously consider it an outrage that Elon would be
trying to figure out how much of the government taxpayer
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dollars you're in my money that they are spending is
wasted and fraudulent. So they don't I don't trust the
individual taxpayer to be honest, but they do trust the
federal government to be flawless. I mean, it is an
untenable position for anybody out there thinking, if I had
to ask you, I bet most of you. If I said,
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who do you trust more an average American or the
federal government? Who would you rather have helping you in
the wake of an immediate storm, your neighbor or relying
on FEMA to show up. Most of you, I think,
would say, yeah, I ask my neighbor for help. Most
of you trust the individual innate goodness of the average
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American much more than you do the federal government. Democrats
buck are now in the position think about how untenable
this is to be arguing, how in the world can
we be holding our taxpayer dollars accountable and searching for
fraud on the money that we're actually spending. But simultaneously
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that's unacceptable, but we need to be looking for every
American's fraud. It's it's like an It's an absolutely indefensible position. Well,
they've also put themselves in a place where the Democrats
are so upset about USAID. The United States Agency for
International Development. Marco Rubio has been phenomenal on this. By
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the way, he shall now be known as Big Marco
no longer Little Marco. People are saying he is the
some people are saying most Improved Award. Now Marc Rubio
is great, a great senator from my state in Florida,
doing a fantastic job already as Secretary of State. And
he explained this that that really there's this sense that
USAID Clay operates outside the government chain of command, even
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more so than the State Department, which I might add
also thinks in many ways that operates outside the presidential
chain of command, and they do whatever they want the
career employees. And now you've got these Beltway democrats, particularly
like the DC media blob.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's like, what do you mean You're cutting the budget
for transgender puppet shows in Mongolia. It's like, why are
we funding transgender puppet shows in Mongolia?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like what is this? Whose idea is this?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is some global charity run by leftist that's using
your tax. It's one thing if they were to write
their own checks for this, you know, if they want
to do their own you know, comic book about climate
change in Bolivia, they can write checks out of their
own bank account. But they're doing it out of your
bank account, and you don't even know about it, and
they don't think they need to tell anybody about it,
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and so Clay, the more that they get angry about this,
the more people say, really, we're supposed to fund this
and that. Because they haven't said they're going to cut
everything the USA Idea is doing. They're saying it's going
to go under the State Department under Mark Rubio, and
what is in US interest will be done, but what
is in the interests of the bureaucrat commies is not
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going to be done. Also, a couple of things that
I think are important here as we start to talk budget.
For first of all, you just said, let's play Caroline Levitt,
who was scheduled to be on the program with US tomorrow,
by the way, she had to bump in the wake
of the awful tragedy with the plane in DC last
week's scheduled to be on with US tomorrow. Here she
is sharing some of what you just referenced, USAID's DEI
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funding priorities cut five. Listen to what your taxpayer dollars
have been going.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
To through USAID over the past several years. These are
some of the insane priorities that that organization has been
spending money on one point five million dollars to advance
Dei in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for a production of
a Dei musical in Ireland, forty seven thousand for a
transgender opera in Colombia, thirty two thousand for a transgender
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comic book in Peru. I don't know about you, but
as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going
towards this crap, and I know the American people don't either.
And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by
President Trump to do to get the fraud, waste, and
abuse out of our federal government.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Thinking about it, I mean, let's fight on this hill
all day.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Libs bring it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Democrats explain why tax dollars at a time where people
are also feeling prices rise for years, thank you, Biden,
and have their own financial challenges and are already beset
by the expense of ten plus million illegals who have
piled into the country in just the last four years.
We're doing transgender operas in Colombia now, and the point here,
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Clay is okay. They might say, well, it's not that
much money. Look how big the budget is. Well, then
why are we doing this? But why are we doing.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It at all? Well?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Why does this come from the United States checkbook? Who's
spending their time? Remember, there's someone who's spending their time
on this, there's someone administering this program. There are meetings
that are being held on this. The whole thing is
a scam totally. And when I think you go to
any of you who have ever had to make a
budget in your own life, sometimes you don't have enough money,
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and that stinks.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I've been there. Most of you out there have been
there at some point.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You haven't been able to get your head above water
because you simply don't make enough money. That's not the
US government's problem. It's not a revenue problem. It's a
spending problem. In fact, Buck And this is a stat
that I think everybody should be hammering home. Do you
know our budget would be balanced if we merely returned
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to what the federal government was spending in twenty nineteen.
That's a stat that I think a lot of you
out there, the growth in spending that has occurred, that
they used COVID as an excuse to.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just pour on money.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If we just went back to the budget that Trump
had in twenty nineteen. It's a pretty big freaking budget.
We would have a balanced budget right now. The revenue
is not the issue, Clay. The two most important things
from a governance perspective right now in this country are
the illegal alien crisis and our borders, and the spending
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and the growth of government and the madness out of
the swamp in DC right and these two issues. Trump
has gone just all in with his team and having
Elon look at this and deal with this. I mean,
the fact that people at USAID would quote this yesterday
are saying it is the apocalypse for USAID.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
This is stuff that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sounds like some dream from like a conservative think tank
twenty years ago. I mean, nobody has been thinking this
has been possible until Trump came along. And when you
see the scope of the fraud and the abuse. And
to Clay's point also about the government is you know,
I think I received one year from the IRS. I
think they wanted like another one hundred bucks or something
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because I had some ten ninety nine that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I paid seven figures.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thankfully, I'm very happy for my success in taxes for
the last seven or eight years. Okay, just saying that
not to brag, but the government told me I owed
thirty nine dollars in seventy five cents. But this is
this is about the laws, the same laws and the
same system that bind you and me and all of
you listening to this for every penny, every penny of
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your income, and the opaque, an absurd and rigged tax
code that is, you know, you have this extreme obligation
to the state, which, by the way, should also be
chopped down considerably. I think there's a whole conversation here
about a flat tax, a fair tax, IRS going down
to much much lower levels. And on the other hand,
the government gets to spend and we get sailors that
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right in don't say drunken sailors.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I can hold my liquor, but you know.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Like the proverbial drunken sailor, I mean just running around
spending money like crazy. And we have thirty six trillion
dollars of debt and the fact that Elon and of
course with Trump's you know, he's kind of like the
hand from.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
A game of thrones, right with Trump's approval, and Trump
has made that very clear, is going around and looking
at this and saying that he thinks he can remove
hundreds of billions of dollars of just pure waste at
a federal expenditure.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, this is more than most countries' GDP. We're
talking about. This is a vast sum of money that
the government is lighting on fire. And the DC blob
and the Democrats are all against this. Good, let's see
them be against a clay. I want more of them
explaining why we need the transgender muppet shows in Cambodia
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or whatever totally and the argument of well it's a
small part of the budget. Democrat, Republican, Independent, who was
actually in favor of this? Who if you gave them
the choice, Hey, do you want your tax dollars to
go to transgender muppet shows in Cambodia? How many of
you are like, I'm in check mark, take my money
right now, go. This is how I want my money.
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By the way, I wish, I wish I got to
say somehow how my tax dollars could be allocated. First
of all, I'd like to have way more of him back,
like most of you. Second, this to me feels like
the closest to a public advocate that we've ever had.
I think there's a lot of laziness in government. And
let's be honest, Buck, the talent that Elon Musk has
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and the tenaciousness is almost without parallel in modern American history.
He's gotten a lot of young dudes like him that
are just pouring over the entire federal budget line by
line to figure out what we're actually spending. Look, I
think Trump was like CNN and the media BLOB's worst nightmare.
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Elon is actually the bureaucracy. I think the DC swamp's
worst nightmare. Yes, you know, this really goes to his
skill set and credit to him, but also credit to
Trump for seeing this. This is what we wanted all along,
Trump picking the best people to do the critical things,
and everything we have seen going into week three here
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of this term is he's doing exactly that. So it's
it's an amazing thing. But Clay AOC wants to weigh in,
so making it we're gonna, We're gonna come back to this.
AOC has some thoughts on how smart.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Elon Musk is.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You are gonna want to hear this, and I think
it explains a lot of where the opposition stands right now.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
We got so much winning going on that sometimes we
don't even hit the victory lap that we should. Yesterday,
all of the talk was in the morning, Oh my goodness,
Trump is going to enact tariffs on Canada and Mexico.
The entire global economy is going to collapse. He has
no idea what he's doing. Mexico commit it's ten thousand
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troops to the border. Canada commits ten thousand troops to
the border. Both put billions of dollars more into the
idea that they are going to restrict ingress and into
the United States, and boom. This has turned into a
non story already. What I do think is significant is
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if you add on Columbia, and you add on with
what happened when they were refusing to take the refugees,
and you add on Panama, who appears to have been
the knee Venezuela releasing six American hostages, which barely got
talked about, but was a significant accomplishment by Richard Grennell.
The the acronyn individual down Grenell who went down there
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and made a and made a deal to get them back.
Venezuela has agreed to take different illegals. I saw where, Yeah,
I was El Salvador.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You see guitars. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Let me tell you, I mean meeting Americans who commit crimes.
Let me tell you, I do not think you want
to get sent to Bukeal's supermax prison in El Salvador.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That could really.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Probably not a good place to have to spend some time.
Uh And basically El Salvador has almost no crime. Now,
I mean, many of these Latin American countries have turned
into real success stories when you look at basically just
embracing capitalism and allowing the market to flourish. So all
of these wins are getting stacked up. RFK Junior has
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cleared committee. He is going to become HHS secretary. Also,
Tulci Gabbard has received significant commitments from Republicans. She is
going to get confirmed as well. Every single cabinet nominee
that Trump put forward that reached the hearing is going
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to be confirmed, as should be the case. The only
one that Trump announced that Withdrew Matt Gates that is otherwise,
Trump and his cabinet one point zero in this second
administration is going to take office with no rejections.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Trump just keeps stacking wins. Now a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Also, Trump tomorrow, Buck and the Real Daily Layer just
reported it, so I can say it. I know it
to be true. As well, is going to sign an
executive order that is going end men competing in women's sports.
There's going to be a big press conference associated with
that EO. Our friend Riley Gains, who works alongside of
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me at OutKick, is going to be at that press availability.
Caroline Levitt is going to join us tomorrow, as I
said earlier White House Press Secretary to talk about that.
I actually when she comes on, I think Buck will
be on the way to New Orleans, where I will
be doing our show Thursday and Friday from the super Bowl,
which shouldn't stink Chiefs and Eagles down there. That Trump
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has announced that he will be attending as well. So
President of the United States will be at the super
Bowl on Sunday. I suspect Buck and I haven't seen
the official release. One reason he wants to do this is,
as we talked about in the first hour, one month ago,
there was a terror attack in New Orleans. Trump was
not the president at the time of that terror attack,
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but I would expect that he will want to pay
respects to the fourteen individuals who lost his life there,
lost their life there, and also be able to speak
out against the awful tearror attack that happened there as well.
As guy's a big sports fan. I think he wants
to go to the super Bowl and one hundred million
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plus people will be watching.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's gonna be on Fox. Should be fun. You know,
get a little tired of all this, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What does cloy think about the super Bowl? So I'm
going to put you on the hot seat for a
second here. Who do you really think Trump is rooting
for Kansas City Chiefs. He's a Kansas City guy. He
likes he's for Kansas City. He was a Patriots guy before.
I think he knew that Tom Brady was a voter
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and supporter. I mean, a lot of this stuff is
behind closed doors. Patrick Mahomes and his wife voted for
Donald Trump. I think that Patrick Mahomes is a big
Trump guy. Now, to be fair, Travis Kelcey not so
sure that he's a big Trump guy. Taylor Swift certainly
not a big Trump guy. So look, I mean every team,
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I think the reality is, has guys that vote Trump
and some guys that didn't vote Trump. I mean, just
like most businesses in America do, right. I mean, we're
a fifty to fifty country to a large extent, but
much of the Chief's ownership big Trump supporters. I would say,
in general state of Missouri, pretty good Trump supporting area.
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And I know, look, there are a lot of Eagle
fans out there, and wait a minute, I'm a big
Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But I think Trump is uh is Patrick Mahomes guy,
and I think that he.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Will be rooting for the Chiefs. I do not think
he will say it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In fact, I think smart politician that he is, Philadelphia
is kind of a big battleground. And even though his
political career is over, if you had to pick a
team to root for politically, Pennsylvania, whoever votes for in
twenty twenty eight is going to probably decide the presidency again.
So I think as a smart he's not running. He's
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not running again though, right, so he doesn't really Maybe
he'll just come out. Maybe he'll just come out and
say it. I think the fig the Eagles owner is
actually a big lib Jeffrey Lourie and uh, and so
Trump certainly knows that, and so the ownership of the
of the Chiefs is more aligned with him politically. Patrick
Mahomes is a Trump supporter. His wife is I think
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a big Trump supporter, and and so I think that
that Trump will be rooting for the Chiefs. I don't
know that it will say it publicly, but that's how
I would break it down. By the way, I think
the Chiefs are going to win several days out. Usually
people I don't know, you don't do I don't know
how much attention you paid the sports media. You're supposed
to keep your prediction on the Super Bowl, like super
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close to the chest because if you come out and
say it on Monday, you got a full week to
talk about the game. So then you're like, well, what's
the suspense? So you have to kind of talk up
both sides. Well, on the one hand, you know, I like,
what's your boy sequon? Saquon Barkley has been able to
accomplish in the running game, and so you talk about
the Eagles ability to control that side of the ball,
and in the next day, this is Sports Stark Radio.
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Next day you come back and you're like, but boy,
you know Patrick Malmes is pursuing Tom Bradman, and I
can give you the whole week of how the stories go.
And then on Friday you're like, but my pick is
I'm telling you now, I think the Chiefs win. I've
been following Sequan's career for weeks and I will just
tell you never bet against Saquan.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Sequan has has still not or your boy Pickle unfortunately
did not make a Pickles let me down. We don't
talk about mister Pickles got into a fight in the
end zone after kind of a I would say, dastardly
into the season for the good word for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaking of dastardly, I would argue that, so that's Super Bowl.
I'll be down there Thursday, Friday tomorrow. We'll have Caroline
Levin on, but I will probably miss that last hour.
But another executive order that many of you are going
to say, how lujah when you see come down. I
can't believe that we've gotten to the point where the
President of the United States need to say, hey men,
pretending to be women shouldn't be able to compete in
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women's sports.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is one of the dumbest things that has been
allowed to air on CNN in some time. And I
say that because sometimes you can have opinions that I
disagree with, but you can at least make an argument.
That's how the First Amendment works, Like, hey, you have
this opinion, I have that opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
We can argue back and forth.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But when you are so factually an act curate that
it boggles the mind that it would even be possible
for you to say it. And CNN, which claims they
care about the pursuit of truth and fact checking to
such an extent, says nothing at all. Here is Congresswoman
Jasmine Crockett. Where's she from?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Buck Well?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know, you know the state? Young black woman, Texas,
Oh Texas. You blew it on this one, Jasmine Crockett,
young black woman.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You trade Luca, you elect this woman? What do you
do in Texas?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Here is Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett saying eighty percent of violent
crime is actually attributable to white supremacy.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Listen, this is very simple. We right now have a
white supremacist that is sitting in the White House. He
is backed up by other white supremacists. And if you
really want to know who the criminals are in this country,
you can google it. You don't have to trust me.
But the people that commit eighty percent of the most
violent times in this country are white supremacists. Yet for
whatever reason, they sit and they serve at the pleasure
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of the president. They are the ones that were there
on January sixth tearing our democracy down physically, and now
we have them tearing us down right here from within.
Here is the problem, of course, Congressman.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, so she calls the president a white supremacist. That's
an opinion. It's ridiculous. Was CNN about to say the
president denies being Yeah, do we have the continued cut there?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I don't even know. I haven't heard of such that.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They would never have done that before he won. Well, also,
do we have the continuation there? Maybe Greg can look
into it. I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I said cut it off, but I think it was
cutting off there. But here's what I would ask. She said,
google it, which reminds me of when Don Lemon was like,
everyone knows when women are in their Prime Google. It
like Google, it is not actually an argument when the
Google data does not in any way support this, Buck,
I don't even know what data point she could be
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attempting to claim that white supremacist commit eighty percent of
violent crime in America. It's one of the craziest arguments
I've ever seen on CNA. I think I think she
was conflating, like, you know, hate, hate, crimes and terrorism,
and you know, the left has all these ways of
trying to, you know, change the numbers up so that
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it looks like the real that Buck, I don't know
how you could possibly get to eighty percent under any
crime metric attributable to white supremacy.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But you have to remember, what if Clay, you were really,
really dumb.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Then then you can confuse numbers and statistics and every.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To say it on CNN.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And by the way, I understand when some people say
things that you don't know a lot about, Like I
came on the show recently and I confessed you were
with me too. I didn't know what the capital of
Missouri was. I thought it was Columbia, Missouri. I once
knew it in fifth grade. You didn't know it either. Sorry,
Jefferson City. I hope we're number one there. But if
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you're sitting and you're doing a show and somebody comes
on and they say something like I did, like Columbia,
Missouri is the capital, and you don't get fact checked,
I can see how someone could get that wrong. Anyone
with a functional brain knows. And this is just facts
over fifty percent of all violent crime, focusing on murder
(28:23):
because we know it's the most violent of all crimes
committed by black men. So unless black men are also
white supremacists, which, to be fair, the La Times did
argue Larry Elder was the blackface of white supremacy. So
maybe Jasmine Crockett thinks the black men committing crimes are
white supremacists. The math doesn't in any way add up
(28:46):
to suggest that eighty percent of crime is white supremacy.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But this is such a big lie.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
How does it not get fact checked in real time
on CNN?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, I think that was what was about to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I think she was spremacy supremacy, but I don't
know what else she said. But yes, no, it was.
It was one of the dumber things we have. The conclusion,
By the way, let's play the here's here's the rest
of it right now.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Of course, Congressman President Trump, of course is denied any
allegations of the way supremacist.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And that's why he what he is.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I know, I don't care what he's Oh, come on, that's,
by the way, how every that's how every argument with
your elementary school kid goes. Well, actually you need to eat,
I don't care what you say. You know, like this
is like just such a childlike response when you are
confronted with and by the way, buck, I think you're right.
The reason why that occurs is because they're afraid to
(29:44):
get sued like they fact checked. But that's her opinion.
She has the right to say it. I disagree with it.
What she doesn't have the right to say on CNN,
in my opinion, is something that is objectively easily provable
falsehood that she then says, google it. Well, I'll bet
a google it. You're one billion percent wrong. I mean,
(30:06):
the host on CNN should have corrected that. I think
probably didn't because she was afraid of being called racist.
If she pointed out that half of all murders are
committed by black men, then people are like, oh, you
can't you can't share stats that make people racially uncomfortable.
That's one of the ways they police what we're allowed
to say. It's quite a deep dive into the criminal
justice analysis of Congresswoman Crockett. I have to say, I
(30:29):
don't know if anybody else's gonna come on Texas. She's pretty.
I'll give her that. You got to do better as
a congresswoman. She lies, and she's racist, and she is
really not an advocate in any kind of intelligent way
for the people of her district in Texas. Let's talk
(30:51):
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Speaker 6 (32:08):
Saving America one thought at a time. Clay Travis and
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Speaker 2 (32:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show Buck Big news.
The NFL has ended racism right just in time for
the Super Bowl. It is I mean, I know, like
we need a breaking news sound. Racism over the NFL
(32:41):
is replacing end racism from the end zones that has
existed for the last four years in the wake of
all of the BLM insanity that arose in the fall
of twenty twenty. Summer of twenty twenty, Super Bowl twenty
(33:01):
twenty one debuted end racism in the end zones. It
finally having been defeated thanks to the NFL's end zone
slogan is reportedly being replaced for the Super Bowl in
New Orleans. Now the messages in the end zone. I
(33:23):
know many of you are like, aren't the messages in
the end zone Chiefs and Eagles. Yes, they have the
team names in the end zone and then on kind
of underneath the goalpost. They have like these slogan's messages.
They now are going to say for this Super Bowl, Buck,
choose love. Very nice time for Valentine's Day. Nothing sweeter
(33:46):
than sitting with your loved one and watching Super Bowl.
And it takes all of us so end racism over.
This is what happens, Buck, when you finally get a
white cornerback started in the NFL, Everybody's like, I mean,
there must be no racism. You got a white guy
playing corner choose love, and it takes all of us
(34:09):
end racism, rest in peace gone. After four years now,
I'm having fun with this, but I do think it's
symptomatic of what we have been discussing, which is everything
just changed on November fifth, Guys, all of the bs
(34:31):
just went up in smoke. You and I know this, Buck,
because for years we've been meeting with a lot of
CEOs and people who are very successful in business, and
they would say to us, what, we basically.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Agree with everything you guys say, yeah, of course, but they.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Would say, but in our companies, you know, it's kind
of hard for us to be able to say publicly
the kind of things that you're saying. They have. First
of all, I give you on a tremendous credit because
he was out on the front lines leading the charge
in many corporations over this ridiculousness.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But once Trump won the popular vote, a lot of
CEOs in America and a lot of very powerful people
in public relations and other fields finally said, Okay, we
can pop our heads up and look around and finally
acknowledge how crazy this is. Mark Zuckerberg is sadly kind
(35:24):
of a perfect representation of this. The guy basically goes whichever.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Way the wind is blowing.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
And you can say, politically, maybe that's not a bad move,
because all his real goal is is to advance and
grow his business. And so if Democrats are in office,
he's like Mandi's great, And as soon as Republicans win,
he's like, man, censorship sucks. We got to judge people
based on the meritocracy. I do think that I hope
that he's growing a little bit more of a spine.
(35:52):
But there are a lot of Zuckerberg's out there in
your business. There are a lot of these guys who
just try to stay out of the line of fire,
don't really do much, don't really say much. They just
follow whatever the prevailing wind is. Hey, we got to
hire new people. Yeah, yeah, it's time to hire man.
We gotta really cut back. Yeah yeah, it's time to
(36:14):
cut back. The guy who always says whatever the popular
wisdom is inside of your business, that guy is suddenly like, oh, oh,
now's the time to move in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And so.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The Florida Panthers down where you are, Buck, congratulations, Panthers
won the Stanley Cup. They went to visit Trump yesterday
in the White House, he brought him into the Oval office,
got the picture with him at the resolute desk. Buck,
I didn't see one iota of criticism of an NHL
team visiting Trump in the white House. I'll tell you
when Trump won in sixteen, every single team that won,
(36:54):
it was a huge store. Are they gonna go to
the White House? Are they gonna Are they gonna acknowledge
Trump as president? Maybe that's still going to linger somewhat
in the NBA, maybe the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Everywhere else it's over.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I mean, I know a Florida resident who's relatively new
to Florida who when he first saw the headline about
the Panthers visiting the White House was like, what college
team is that? And I gave him a very hard
time for that because it wasn't me. I love the
Florida Panthers all about it. So, yes, things have definitely
definitely changed, Clay on the corporate side of things, and
(37:28):
now all of a sudden people can be more open
about what Well, actually, I just think it's very hard
to separate. You touched on this with Mark Zuckerberg. It's
very hard to separate who is just going because the
wind is so clearly blowing in this direction, and who
really has had a change of heart. Well, especially if
the change didn't happen n till post election. I think
(37:49):
that's definitely going to be the case with a lot
of these companies, all these sports operations and things that
are going on.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So that's a real.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I mean, how much does it matter, I don't know,
but if we're trying to gauge how authentic and lasting
the cultural change really will be here, you know, it's
one thing if you're like, well, I guess we got
to just sort of go with this now. It's another
thing if you say, you know, what Trump won, the
left is crazy. It's time to go back to some
kind of American normal. And that's what we would all like, right,
(38:20):
especially in the sports realm, but across the board, corporate, cultural, everything,
no doubt. And by the way, this is why whatever
Trump does. And look, I tweeted yesterday for a baseball analogy,
Trump's got like twenty home runs in April. For those
of you who are baseball fans, he's come out of
(38:40):
the gate. Who aren't baseball fans, he's come out of
the gate at an incredible pace. I don't know that
he can keep it up. But his term ends in
November of twenty eight. I know somebody was torn in
until January of twenty nine, but by twenty twenty six,
the page is going to turn from Trump. And as
great as his term may well be, we got to
(39:01):
have sustained success because Buck, you and I have talked
about this, a lot of these execu quorders. If President
Kamala Harris, God forbid, or JB. Pritzker or whoever that
person is, Gretchen Whitmer, They're gonna immediately come into the
Oval Office and revoke a lot of what Trump has done.
And so you have to have sustained victories. We need
(39:24):
to win in twenty eight, We need to win in
thirty two. This is not a You don't go from hey,
I'm five hundred pounds to getting back in shape by
having one good year. You got to stres our government
is fat, flabby and not serving the American people. One
term of any president can't solve it for the long term.
(39:45):
We need to stick together, stack together some wins. But
I am super optimistic about this. Well, this is why
these changes, in these shocks to the system in the
Swamp and in DC, they're going on. It's so important
because we're always fighting a loose using battle as conservatives,
as Republicans, as MAGA.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
All of it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
If when we win, there is an apparatus that stands
athwart us, that is non responsive to elections and actually
institutes a lot of policy. Yeah, and so this is
now the beginning of the reshaping, and it is, to
your point, the beginning of it, but this is the
reshaping of it. And I think in a lot of ways,
(40:26):
this is what we saw on Trump's first term, where
the FBI was weaponized and the various agencies were effectively
dug in and refusing to comply wherever they could with Trump,
especially in the first year or two. You know, there
were lessons learned there, and there are lessons that not
only apply for Donald Trump as a president, but I
think we'll continue to apply going forward for everybody who
(40:51):
is a Republican who's trying to change things and do
things differently. And that is you have to It's a
little bit like the playing field and the refs, right,
so we would show up to the game as Republicans
and the refs have been bought off, and you know,
one side of the field has got like divots and
holes and all this stuff in it, and we're like, well,
hold on a second, this isn't the way it's supposed
(41:12):
to be. Now we're fixing that so that there's a
more level playing field for the actual implementation of Republican policy.
It's and that's why it's just so refreshing, because Clay,
this stuff goes beyond the four years of Trump's term.
If you can reshape the federal bureaucracy, if you can
cut the spending, it changes the whole mindset. It changes
our whole perception of governance in America. It also, I
(41:35):
think that's important too, not only for Trump. Somebody out
there is the fifteen year old Elon Musk. Somebody out
there is going to be like him in the years ahead,
aspires to achieve the remarkable things that he has done
and will do that for his generation of Americans. If
(41:56):
it becomes cool to give back to your government and
make sure that the government's not wasting money, think about
these brilliant Yeah, I mean, I know they're getting ripped.
People are like, oh, they've got like nineteen and twenty
twenty year olds going through line by line the federal
government expenses like I know they're ripping them on the left,
aren't those guys?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Heroes? Like to be giving of.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Your time and not getting paid a ton of money
just for your country, to try to be more efficient
and to more fairly allocate all of our tax dollars,
like these are the best of us.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Like, that's an incredible thing to be giving, right to
have that gift?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Who should who represents more the American ethos at its
core and should be more supported by the average American
tax paying You know, guy or gal, the people who
are putting cots in government offices to stay there and
do the absolute maximum that they possibly can to eliminate waste,
(42:59):
fraud and abuse. Or the people who are crying and
throwing tantrums because they're you know, transgender, DEEI drag queen
story hour budget for Sub Saharan Africa and East Asia
and whatever is no longer in existence.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, do you see, Like, who's a good guy here
to the American people? I'm pretty sure this is clear,
but it's funny.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The media is, Oh, they're apoplectic over this, and they
just keep digging bigger holes for themselves. One bit of
news too that I meant to mention. Several of you
asked this question. Remember Joe Biden turned down the Super
Bowl interview in the past two years, which is unheard
of because you get the opportunity to talk to tens
(43:46):
of millions of Americans. Trump is doing the super Bowl
interview with Brett Behar Fox News. The super Bowl is
airing on Fox. But just FYI, a few of you
have asked, Trump is going not to prizingly, he's going
to the game, but he's also going to take the
opportunity to address the largest possible audience he can and
(44:07):
return to doing the traditional super Bowl interview. But to me,
this was a sign that they knew Biden wasn't up
to the job because the traditional super Bowl interview, Hey, look,
this is not the most difficult interview that a president's
going to sit for the fact that they didn't take
that opportunity to do it with Biden for the final
two years of his term was a sign that they
(44:29):
just didn't think he was capable of communicating in a
way that would strike most Americans as reflecting that he
could do the job. So I think they were hiding him.
Trump not surprisingly right back to doing that interview, which
I think whether you're a Democrat or Republican is a
smart political move. Why wouldn't you want to talk to
tens of millions of football fans in a relatively non
(44:50):
threatening manner on a day when most people just want
to kick back and enjoy some sports. Since we're in
the sports zone, here's an easy one. If your life
savings depended on the out come of a football game
and you had to pick for your team to win,
Joe Biden or President Trump as a coach. I think
I think every I think even everyone who voted for
(45:12):
Biden would go with President Trump to coach their team
if their life savings depended on the outcome. I don't
believe a single I don't believe a single person would
be like, you know what, I need Joe Biden to
run my football team. No way do you think Joe
Biden could stand on the sideline for three I mean,
I'm not even kidding. I don't think Joe Biden could walk.
You know, you walk several miles when you're a coach
(45:33):
on the sideline during the course of a three hour
football game, to say nothing of walking on and off
the field and all of the aspects going in and
out of the locker room. I don't think Joe Biden,
to say nothing of actually coaching. I don't think Joe
Biden could have stood on the sideline and walked to
and from the locker room just to be like ceremonially
(45:55):
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't think he's capable of doing it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
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Speaker 1 (47:16):
A lot going on.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
We've got a governor of New Jersey suggested on television
play you see this one that he was harboring an
illegal migrant, and Tom Homan the borders are pointed out.
If that is in fact true, that will be looked
at and investigated because that is a violation of federal statue.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
So we will we will get to that in a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's a little reminder just how comfortable with defiance of
the law, with breaking of the law, Democrats have become
that they will allude on the air to perhaps breaking
laws when it comes to immigration with no fear.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
We're no concern whatsoever. Well, maybe that's changing. We shall
discuss that.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
But the big thing going on right now we wanted
to dive into is Elon Musk is giving the federal
bureaucracy a very thorough exam. He's got the rubber gloves
on and he is checking it out, seeing.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
And it turns out that there's a lot of problems
and waste and it's a mess. And so he's looking
to have the Trump administration chop things down, cut things up.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Feed it into the wood chipper, as he has said.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Part of this is the buyout package that was offered,
which only twenty thousand federal workers out of two million
have taken up the offer on this they have until
Thursday to decide if they will take eight months pay
and benefits in exchange for voluntarily resign walking away. Yes, Clay,
(49:02):
I just think if this number ends up being true,
and to your point, they have one another two days
to theoretically sign up.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's one percent right now so far less than one percent?
What percent?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
How cushy are these jobs? If that few people will
actually take this offer? Because I will tell you right now,
I guarantee you way more than one percent of the
people that are listening to us right now. If you
were told, hey, you get paid through February and you
(49:35):
can just walk away and go find a new job,
I bet twenty five percent of the people listening to
us right now would take that offer, at least because
your jobs tend to be tough and you might not
like them very much, and you would say, Okay, I'll
take that payment and I'll go find something else. I
(49:55):
don't think it's crazy to think that a quarter of
you listening to us right now would take it. Heck,
some of you who are near retirement would be like, hallelujah,
I get to leave eight months early and I'm going
to get paid through September. I'll sign up for that
in a heartbeat. My point on it, Buck is, if
these numbers end up being true, it just shows you
how cushy these jobs are and how little drive and
(50:16):
ambition and industry a lot of these employees have. Because
they're not thinking, oh, I'll go find something better. They
know that they have found the ultimate in don't have
to do anything and get paid reliably and my work
product doesn't matter job, which means all of us, the
taxpayers funding their salaries, are getting screwed. Let me tell
(50:38):
you something about having a long time ago before this
remote work from home stuff was even really technologically feasible.
Although on the national security side you can't do it
because of classification concerns, right, But for people who work it,
you know, Department of Agriculture EPA, places like that, this
is definitely going to be the case play. Whether it
(50:58):
was at the CIA or in the Intelligence Division of
the NYPD, they always wanted to have fit like when
you were on the clock. They wanted to have physical
control of where you were or or you know, positive
control of your location your butt in the chair in
the office or in the cubicle, and that's where you
(51:20):
had to be because there was really not very much
they could do to enforce work product, but they could
enforce presence. So the one thing about working for the
federal government until until COVID, until very recently was yeah, okay,
you know, there's a lot that you can get with
(51:40):
a lot of shenanigans, a lot of wandering the hallways
in the building. You can do a lot of you know,
waiting in line for coffee, et cetera. But you have
to be there, that's the thing. And if you're you
punch in at nine and you leave at five, they
can monitor it. You'll punt, that's what you're you're expected
to do. This has changed such that now the only
really quantum fiable thing for a lot of these jobs,
(52:02):
your physical presence in the workplace is gone. And this
is just if you think about it, what are people
doing at home who work for some of these departments
where no, everyone's virtual. They're all sitting there watching TV
and playing video games and maybe they got a computer
on and they, you know, press a button every fifteen minutes,
so it looks like they're active. They're not doing a
(52:24):
damn thing, a lot of them at least. So that's
what has been exposed by this. Another thing, Clay Elon
must put out this twenty five minutes ago, would.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
You like Doze to audit the IRS?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You will be unsurprised to find out that over ninety
percent of the hundreds of thousands of votes are saying yes,
they would like to see how the IRS uses taxpayer dollars.
And then that brings me to the next shoe that
I think is going to drop courtesy of Uncle Elon.
Trump administration is rafting in executive order to initiate the
(53:03):
Department of Education's elimination, CNN reporting on this one. The
move would come in two parts. The order would direct
the Secretary of Education to create a plan to diminish
the department through executive action, and Trump would also push
for Congress to pass legislation to end the department. As
(53:24):
those working on the order acknowledge, shutting the department would
would require congress involvement. Clay the two parts. First, Jimmy
Carter was the one who this is the one that
I was thinking of. Jimmy Carter created the Education Department.
Department of Education. The first part of this is is
a given, but it's interesting. They're basically trying to clip
(53:45):
the wings of the doe, if you will. I mean
they're trying to make it I don't know how many
of your own birds, but that means the bird can't
really fly normally. They're trying to make it so that
I had a bird for a little while.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
It's a long story. You have a little while. What
kind of bird? A cockatial? Oh my god, that was
an awful decision by you. Well, my parents agreed with you,
because we gave it back to the pet store where I.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Got my sister had. My sister had a bird, and
the damn thing never shut up. I mean it was
it makes a very high noise. It was actually quite
I actually liked the bird. It's quite affectionate. But they, uh,
there's no potty training them and they just keep going
and going and going wherever. And uh they had like
a little retractable mohawk. My cockatial. I liked my cockatial.
But anyway, we don't have to get into that now.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
It's sad. I didn't last. Apparently your parents you're really poor.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
They didn't want to. They didn't want to get a
dog yet for us, so they eventually got a dog
and that was the right move. So the intermediary was
I had a cockatial and I think it lasted like
I don't know, my parents say weeks.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I think a few months.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Point being you returned it, can you return to animals somehow?
My dad, yeah, my dad would just like take this,
take this cockatial back, and they took it back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
To the pet still. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
All right, that's good, Yeah, yeah, mine got it. My
sister's got knocked. The cat knocked it over, and it
flew out of the uh into a Nashville winter day
and probably didn't last very long. I wouldn't imagine in
the in the tree, like you could see it in
the tree. The leaves were all gone. It was bright,
you know, blue pink or whatever it was. And uh,
I I don't know. I guess it probably froze to death.
(55:15):
It was a dark dark into the Travis family cockat
this is this is taking a dark turn. I mean,
but I guess maybe the cat shouldn't have tried to
eat it, I guess.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
But.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
You know how I knew that the bird was not
was not long for the h I think I was
like eight or nine when this was going on. My
dad reached into, and you know, he had been told
to be patient. He reached in to grab the bird
and it bit him because they have a meat. They
have a mean little beak if you try to get
rough with them, and it bit him, and I was like,
this bird's is not long for this world. I was
just glad there weren't tiny drumsticks on the I just
(55:48):
remember how loud that damn bird was. If you didn't
have the cover on top of the cage. It never
shut up. I mean it was incessant. I mean, Carrie
can't hear this right now, al though she could probably
listen to the show on podcasts, but she's doing something
something else.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
If she would let me, I would get a bird.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Anyway, All right, let's go back. Let's go back to
what is important here in saving the country. So the
part one Clay basically cutting the budget, slashing the budget
down or slashing the everything that the executive branch can do,
closing down as much of the Department education as possible
so that it is kind of like neutered, and then
(56:25):
trying to get Congress to go along with just shut
the whole damn thing down.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I so, first of all, the challenge here is that
these guys are going to try to sue to keep
their jobs. So what you should expect is they're going
to try to fire people, and these federal employees are
going to say, because of their incredibly protective unions, that
their contracts don't allow them to be fired. So we
(56:54):
are going to end up in a multi year battle.
This is why offering buyouts makes sense at so many
companies because it's actually very difficult to fire people. I
didn't know this until I started running a company, because
I just assumed that I could always get fired left
and right, and I've been fired.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Left and right.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
But when you are a union employee, as most of
these government employees are to my knowledge, Buck, it becomes really,
really hard to get rid of them. So I love
the idea, I've said it before, I wish and I
think this is where Elon is going to get frustrated
because the analogy here is very comparable. The email that
(57:36):
he sent to the government employees is very similar to
the one that he sent to Twitter employees. When you
own a private company, it's way easier to fire people
so long as they aren't members of unions. And it's
my understanding that Twitter was not a union based company,
and so Elon could go in and he could fire
most people or buy them out depending on what their
(57:58):
contracts were, things like that. But when you have union employees,
it becomes incredibly difficult. And so I suspect that that's
why they're trying to get people to leave voluntarily. Because
while the goal may be one that I admire and
I wish, we could fire fifty or seventy five percent
of all federal employees. And I don't think taxpayers would
miss it, and I think it would save us trillions
(58:19):
of dollars over the generations ahead. I think we're going
to have major legal challenges and it's going to be
ponderous to get much of this done. That's my concern.
I could be wrong, but the union contracts typically are
quite protection protective. Well, but I think if nothing else,
this is going to force a lot of this out
(58:42):
into the open. So people are going to realize. I mean,
even FDR thought the idea of a public sector union
was an abomination. I mean it was a whole agree
horrible idea, which is completely true, by the way. Teachers unions,
by the way, probably the worst.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Of all of this.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yes, teachers union should not exist. If you want to
teach in your local public school, whatever, that's great. That
should be left up to the public school and your
district to determine what your salary and benefits are. There
should not be this collective bargaining with the state through
public sector unions that occurs there. And so yeah, I
think that this is going to force people to look
(59:19):
at this in more detail. I would also say though,
that because you have elon looking at this, there's many
ways to get it done. And for example, it is
already existing regulation or law that if you are a
new federal government employee.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
At I think it's the EPA that is.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Covered by this right now, but it's probably true everywhere Clay,
you're technically on probation for the first year, eighteen months,
something like that. They've effectively prepared all Biden hired probationary
EPA employees probationary just because they're new, not because they've
actually done anything to be fired, and that they can
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and do under the existing rules and regulations. So this
is now that's only a thousand, well a thousand people's
a lot of people, but not in the federal government context.
Point here is they're going to find every way they
can to pressure the system to cut it down to
show even just showing the public what's really going on.
And that's where I think things can get more interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Over the long run. Buckle up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
The firing of federal employees thing is going to be
really fascinating to see, and I hope although it doesn't
sound like the numbers are what we had hoped. I
hope way more than twenty thousand people are going to
end up taking these offers to get paid through September.
But if they don't, it gives you a very good
sense for how cushy those jobs really are, because again,
(01:00:48):
I bet twenty five percent of you would gladly take
a payout through September and go find a new job
because you don't particularly love the jobs you have, and
you'd like to find one that you liked more. These
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like they were getting compensated at their fair market value.
Do you think they'd all be trying to keep them?
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay and Buck Show kicks off
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
To say to the short one.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And we've got a lot to talk to you about today,
So brevity was he let's dive into it. Senate Finance
Committee has advanced RFK Junior's nomination. Looking pretty good for
HHS Secretary Tolsei Gabbard, also looking good cash, but tell
looking good. Trump's team coming together beautifully, and Elon is
(00:35):
going full Twitter on the Feds. And by that I
mean remember when he cut eighty percent of Twitter's staff
and everyone said.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Who is going to turn on the computers?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And now Twitter is more important and functions better than
it ever had before. Elon is taking that same mindset
at least and going after the federal government. There's an
incredible piece today in the New York Times. It's supposed
to be a hit piece, I think on Elon and
(01:09):
just how off the rails he and his team of
twenty somethings, one of them is nineteen years old. Elon
has essentially grabbed a bunch of one forty iq twenty
somethings to sleep on cots in the Office of Personnel
Management in DC, to work in offices at the old
(01:31):
Executive Office building, all with Trump's stamp of approval and
blessing to just go get it done, do the mission.
They've gotten access to the Treasury Department's payment system, They've
gotten access inside of OPM, which is the HR for
all of federal government employees. They have shut down the
US Aid Office in DC, and all of.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
This is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know what Elon says Clay about the amount out
of fraud that he thinks is happening with the federal
government every year, meaning the amount of money that the
federal government is paying that it should not pay. That
is fraud he's estimating. And remember he has super user
access everybody, you know, he's he can see it. He thinks, Clay,
(02:19):
we are at seven hundred billion dollars of fraud. Now,
for those of us who've been screaming and pounding the
table for a long time now, certainly over a decade.
You know, the the estimate for Medicare fraud alone is
sixty to eighty billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So once you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Start to piece and patch all these things together, it
doesn't seem like it's crazy at all to have that number.
Although that number is jaw dropping, right, it seems like
this is very possible. Clay Elon has been unleashed. We'll
get to the AOC thing at a second, but I
think people seeing these numbers, it's it's pretty staggering, and
it's also really encouraging that some one's finally doing something
(03:01):
about this. Well that's the thing, right, that we're finally
getting to it. Let me just kind of put this
context out there for you. Democrats are in a position
now where they are arguing we need remember this was
their huge argument a couple of years ago, we need
eighty seven thousand new IRS agents to catch all the
(03:23):
tax cheats out there.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You me, all of you out there listening.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The half of Americans remember, it's only half the half
of Americans that actually pay federal income tax This is
a staggering stat that I should be talked about more.
Only half of Americans pay federal income taxes. That's something
other than payroll taxes. This is you finish all of
your work for the year, and you are paying something
(03:50):
other than payroll taxes. Only half. Okay, it's an incredibly
insane number. They want eighty seven thousand new agents to
go after the half of people that that are actually
paying tax in this country federal income tax. And if
you opposed it at all, you are an indefensible cheat.
But we opposed it on this show because we pointed
(04:12):
out everybody thinks, oh, they're only going to go after
the billionaires. They're already doing that. I'm being audited every year.
They're already doing that. Donald Trump way richer than me.
He's getting audited every year. They're already coming after people
who pay substantial amounts of tax, the vast majority, and
this has been proven out. When they expand IRS enforcement,
(04:32):
they're going to come to a large extent for people
that are not super wealthy but that pay taxes. Okay,
you run a small business, they're going to be pouring
over your books, Okay, they want to do that, But
they simultaneously consider it an outrage that Elon would be
trying to figure out how much of the government taxpayer
(04:53):
dollars you're in my money that they are spending is
wasted and fraudulent. So they don't I don't trust the
individual taxpayer to be honest, but they do trust the
federal government to be flawless. I mean, it is an
untenable position for anybody out there thinking, if I had
to ask you, I bet most of you. If I said,
(05:15):
who do you trust more an average American or the
federal government? Who would you rather have helping you in
the wake of an immediate storm, your neighbor or relying
on FEMA to show up. Most of you, I think,
would say, yeah, I ask my neighbor for help. Most
of you trust the individual innate goodness of the average
(05:36):
American much more than you do the federal government. Democrats
buck are now in the position think about how untenable
this is to be arguing, how in the world can
we be holding our taxpayer dollars accountable and searching for
fraud on the money that we're actually spending. But simultaneously
(05:56):
that's unacceptable, but we need to be looking for every
American's fraud. It's it's like an It's an absolutely indefensible position. Well,
they've also put themselves in a place where the Democrats
are so upset about USAID. The United States Agency for
International Development. Marco Rubio has been phenomenal on this. By
(06:16):
the way, he shall now be known as Big Marco
no longer Little Marco. People are saying he is the
some people are saying most Improved Award. Now Marc Rubio
is great, a great senator from my state in Florida,
doing a fantastic job already as Secretary of State. And
he explained this that that really there's this sense that
USAID Clay operates outside the government chain of command, even
(06:40):
more so than the State Department, which I might add
also thinks in many ways that operates outside the presidential
chain of command, and they do whatever they want the
career employees. And now you've got these Beltway democrats, particularly
like the DC media blob.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's like, what do you mean You're cutting the budget
for transgender puppet shows in Mongolia. It's like, why are
we funding transgender puppet shows in Mongolia?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like what is this? Whose idea is this?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is some global charity run by leftist that's using
your tax. It's one thing if they were to write
their own checks for this, you know, if they want
to do their own you know, comic book about climate
change in Bolivia, they can write checks out of their
own bank account. But they're doing it out of your
bank account, and you don't even know about it, and
they don't think they need to tell anybody about it,
(07:33):
and so Clay, the more that they get angry about this,
the more people say, really, we're supposed to fund this
and that. Because they haven't said they're going to cut
everything the USA Idea is doing. They're saying it's going
to go under the State Department under Mark Rubio, and
what is in US interest will be done, but what
is in the interests of the bureaucrat commies is not
(07:53):
going to be done. Also, a couple of things that
I think are important here as we start to talk budget.
For first of all, you just said, let's play Caroline Levitt,
who was scheduled to be on the program with US tomorrow,
by the way, she had to bump in the wake
of the awful tragedy with the plane in DC last
week's scheduled to be on with US tomorrow. Here she
is sharing some of what you just referenced, USAID's DEI
(08:17):
funding priorities cut five. Listen to what your taxpayer dollars
have been going.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
To through USAID over the past several years. These are
some of the insane priorities that that organization has been
spending money on one point five million dollars to advance
Dei in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for a production of
a Dei musical in Ireland, forty seven thousand for a
transgender opera in Colombia, thirty two thousand for a transgender
(08:45):
comic book in Peru. I don't know about you, but
as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going
towards this crap, and I know the American people don't either.
And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by
President Trump to do to get the fraud, waste, and
abuse out of our federal government.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Thinking about it, I mean, let's fight on this hill
all day.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Libs bring it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Democrats explain why tax dollars at a time where people
are also feeling prices rise for years, thank you, Biden,
and have their own financial challenges and are already beset
by the expense of ten plus million illegals who have
piled into the country in just the last four years.
We're doing transgender operas in Colombia now, and the point here,
(09:26):
Clay is okay. They might say, well, it's not that
much money. Look how big the budget is. Well, then
why are we doing this? But why are we doing.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It at all? Well?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Why does this come from the United States checkbook? Who's
spending their time? Remember, there's someone who's spending their time
on this, there's someone administering this program. There are meetings
that are being held on this. The whole thing is
a scam totally. And when I think you go to
any of you who have ever had to make a
budget in your own life, sometimes you don't have enough money,
(09:56):
and that stinks.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I've been there. Most of you out there have been
there at some point.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You haven't been able to get your head above water
because you simply don't make enough money. That's not the
US government's problem. It's not a revenue problem. It's a
spending problem. In fact, Buck And this is a stat
that I think everybody should be hammering home. Do you
know our budget would be balanced if we merely returned
(10:25):
to what the federal government was spending in twenty nineteen.
That's a stat that I think a lot of you
out there, the growth in spending that has occurred, that
they used COVID as an excuse to.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just pour on money.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
If we just went back to the budget that Trump
had in twenty nineteen. It's a pretty big freaking budget.
We would have a balanced budget right now. The revenue
is not the issue, Clay. The two most important things
from a governance perspective right now in this country are
the illegal alien crisis and our borders, and the spending
(11:02):
and the growth of government and the madness out of
the swamp in DC right and these two issues. Trump
has gone just all in with his team and having
Elon look at this and deal with this. I mean,
the fact that people at USAID would quote this yesterday
are saying it is the apocalypse for USAID.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
This is stuff that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Sounds like some dream from like a conservative think tank
twenty years ago. I mean, nobody has been thinking this
has been possible until Trump came along. And when you
see the scope of the fraud and the abuse. And
to Clay's point also about the government is you know,
I think I received one year from the IRS. I
think they wanted like another one hundred bucks or something
(11:46):
because I had some ten ninety nine that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I paid seven figures.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thankfully, I'm very happy for my success in taxes for
the last seven or eight years. Okay, just saying that
not to brag, but the government told me I owed
thirty nine dollars in seventy five cents. But this is
this is about the laws, the same laws and the
same system that bind you and me and all of
you listening to this for every penny, every penny of
(12:15):
your income, and the opaque, an absurd and rigged tax
code that is, you know, you have this extreme obligation
to the state, which, by the way, should also be
chopped down considerably. I think there's a whole conversation here
about a flat tax, a fair tax, IRS going down
to much much lower levels. And on the other hand,
the government gets to spend and we get sailors that
(12:37):
right in don't say drunken sailors.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I can hold my liquor, but you know.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Like the proverbial drunken sailor, I mean just running around
spending money like crazy. And we have thirty six trillion
dollars of debt and the fact that Elon and of
course with Trump's you know, he's kind of like the
hand from.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
A game of thrones, right with Trump's approval, and Trump
has made that very clear, is going around and looking
at this and saying that he thinks he can remove
hundreds of billions of dollars of just pure waste at
a federal expenditure.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, this is more than most countries' GDP. We're
talking about. This is a vast sum of money that
the government is lighting on fire. And the DC blob
and the Democrats are all against this. Good, let's see
them be against a clay. I want more of them
explaining why we need the transgender muppet shows in Cambodia
(13:31):
or whatever totally and the argument of well it's a
small part of the budget. Democrat, Republican, Independent, who was
actually in favor of this? Who if you gave them
the choice, Hey, do you want your tax dollars to
go to transgender muppet shows in Cambodia? How many of
you are like, I'm in check mark, take my money
right now, go. This is how I want my money.
(13:53):
By the way, I wish, I wish I got to
say somehow how my tax dollars could be allocated. First
of all, I'd like to have way more of him back,
like most of you. Second, this to me feels like
the closest to a public advocate that we've ever had.
I think there's a lot of laziness in government. And
let's be honest, Buck, the talent that Elon Musk has
(14:17):
and the tenaciousness is almost without parallel in modern American history.
He's gotten a lot of young dudes like him that
are just pouring over the entire federal budget line by
line to figure out what we're actually spending. Look, I
think Trump was like CNN and the media BLOB's worst nightmare.
(14:40):
Elon is actually the bureaucracy. I think the DC swamp's
worst nightmare. Yes, you know, this really goes to his
skill set and credit to him, but also credit to
Trump for seeing this. This is what we wanted all along,
Trump picking the best people to do the critical things,
and everything we have seen going into week three here
(15:01):
of this term is he's doing exactly that. So it's
it's an amazing thing. But Clay AOC wants to weigh in,
so making it we're gonna, We're gonna come back to this.
AOC has some thoughts on how smart.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Elon Musk is.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You are gonna want to hear this, and I think
it explains a lot of where the opposition stands right now.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
We got so much winning going on that sometimes we
don't even hit the victory lap that we should. Yesterday,
all of the talk was in the morning, Oh my goodness,
Trump is going to enact tariffs on Canada and Mexico.
The entire global economy is going to collapse. He has
no idea what he's doing. Mexico commit it's ten thousand
(17:00):
troops to the border. Canada commits ten thousand troops to
the border. Both put billions of dollars more into the
idea that they are going to restrict ingress and into
the United States, and boom. This has turned into a
non story already. What I do think is significant is
(17:23):
if you add on Columbia, and you add on with
what happened when they were refusing to take the refugees,
and you add on Panama, who appears to have been
the knee Venezuela releasing six American hostages, which barely got
talked about, but was a significant accomplishment by Richard Grennell.
The the acronyn individual down Grenell who went down there
(17:47):
and made a and made a deal to get them back.
Venezuela has agreed to take different illegals. I saw where, Yeah,
I was El Salvador.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You see guitars. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Let me tell you, I mean meeting Americans who commit crimes.
Let me tell you, I do not think you want
to get sent to Bukeal's supermax prison in El Salvador.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That could really.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Probably not a good place to have to spend some time.
Uh And basically El Salvador has almost no crime. Now,
I mean, many of these Latin American countries have turned
into real success stories when you look at basically just
embracing capitalism and allowing the market to flourish. So all
of these wins are getting stacked up. RFK Junior has
(18:36):
cleared committee. He is going to become HHS secretary. Also,
Tulci Gabbard has received significant commitments from Republicans. She is
going to get confirmed as well. Every single cabinet nominee
that Trump put forward that reached the hearing is going
(18:58):
to be confirmed, as should be the case. The only
one that Trump announced that Withdrew Matt Gates that is otherwise,
Trump and his cabinet one point zero in this second
administration is going to take office with no rejections.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Trump just keeps stacking wins. Now a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Also, Trump tomorrow, Buck and the Real Daily Layer just
reported it, so I can say it. I know it
to be true. As well, is going to sign an
executive order that is going end men competing in women's sports.
There's going to be a big press conference associated with
that EO. Our friend Riley Gains, who works alongside of
(19:45):
me at OutKick, is going to be at that press availability.
Caroline Levitt is going to join us tomorrow, as I
said earlier White House Press Secretary to talk about that.
I actually when she comes on, I think Buck will
be on the way to New Orleans, where I will
be doing our show Thursday and Friday from the super Bowl,
which shouldn't stink Chiefs and Eagles down there. That Trump
(20:06):
has announced that he will be attending as well. So
President of the United States will be at the super
Bowl on Sunday. I suspect Buck and I haven't seen
the official release. One reason he wants to do this is,
as we talked about in the first hour, one month ago,
there was a terror attack in New Orleans. Trump was
not the president at the time of that terror attack,
(20:27):
but I would expect that he will want to pay
respects to the fourteen individuals who lost his life there,
lost their life there, and also be able to speak
out against the awful tearror attack that happened there as well.
As guy's a big sports fan. I think he wants
to go to the super Bowl and one hundred million
(20:50):
plus people will be watching.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's gonna be on Fox. Should be fun. You know,
get a little tired of all this, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What does cloy think about the super Bowl? So I'm
going to put you on the hot seat for a
second here. Who do you really think Trump is rooting
for Kansas City Chiefs. He's a Kansas City guy. He
likes he's for Kansas City. He was a Patriots guy before.
I think he knew that Tom Brady was a voter
(21:16):
and supporter. I mean, a lot of this stuff is
behind closed doors. Patrick Mahomes and his wife voted for
Donald Trump. I think that Patrick Mahomes is a big
Trump guy. Now, to be fair, Travis Kelcey not so
sure that he's a big Trump guy. Taylor Swift certainly
not a big Trump guy. So look, I mean every team,
(21:36):
I think the reality is, has guys that vote Trump
and some guys that didn't vote Trump. I mean, just
like most businesses in America do, right. I mean, we're
a fifty to fifty country to a large extent, but
much of the Chief's ownership big Trump supporters. I would say,
in general state of Missouri, pretty good Trump supporting area.
(21:57):
And I know, look, there are a lot of Eagle
fans out there, and wait a minute, I'm a big
Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But I think Trump is uh is Patrick Mahomes guy,
and I think that he.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Will be rooting for the Chiefs. I do not think
he will say it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In fact, I think smart politician that he is, Philadelphia
is kind of a big battleground. And even though his
political career is over, if you had to pick a
team to root for politically, Pennsylvania, whoever votes for in
twenty twenty eight is going to probably decide the presidency again.
So I think as a smart he's not running. He's
(22:32):
not running again though, right, so he doesn't really Maybe
he'll just come out. Maybe he'll just come out and
say it. I think the fig the Eagles owner is
actually a big lib Jeffrey Lourie and uh, and so
Trump certainly knows that, and so the ownership of the
of the Chiefs is more aligned with him politically. Patrick
Mahomes is a Trump supporter. His wife is I think
(22:54):
a big Trump supporter, and and so I think that
that Trump will be rooting for the Chiefs. I don't
know that it will say it publicly, but that's how
I would break it down. By the way, I think
the Chiefs are going to win several days out. Usually
people I don't know, you don't do I don't know
how much attention you paid the sports media. You're supposed
to keep your prediction on the Super Bowl, like super
(23:14):
close to the chest because if you come out and
say it on Monday, you got a full week to
talk about the game. So then you're like, well, what's
the suspense? So you have to kind of talk up
both sides. Well, on the one hand, you know, I like,
what's your boy sequon? Saquon Barkley has been able to
accomplish in the running game, and so you talk about
the Eagles ability to control that side of the ball,
and in the next day, this is Sports Stark Radio.
(23:35):
Next day you come back and you're like, but boy,
you know Patrick Malmes is pursuing Tom Bradman, and I
can give you the whole week of how the stories go.
And then on Friday you're like, but my pick is
I'm telling you now, I think the Chiefs win. I've
been following Sequan's career for weeks and I will just
tell you never bet against Saquan.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's what I know.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Sequan has has still not or your boy Pickle unfortunately
did not make a Pickles let me down. We don't
talk about mister Pickles got into a fight in the
end zone after kind of a I would say, dastardly
into the season for the good word for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
(24:17):
Speaking of dastardly, I would argue that, so that's Super Bowl.
I'll be down there Thursday, Friday tomorrow. We'll have Caroline
Levin on, but I will probably miss that last hour.
But another executive order that many of you are going
to say, how lujah when you see come down. I
can't believe that we've gotten to the point where the
President of the United States need to say, hey men,
pretending to be women shouldn't be able to compete in
(24:39):
women's sports.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is one of the dumbest things that has been
allowed to air on CNN in some time. And I
say that because sometimes you can have opinions that I
disagree with, but you can at least make an argument.
That's how the First Amendment works, Like, hey, you have
this opinion, I have that opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
We can argue back and forth.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But when you are so factually an act curate that
it boggles the mind that it would even be possible
for you to say it. And CNN, which claims they
care about the pursuit of truth and fact checking to
such an extent, says nothing at all. Here is Congresswoman
Jasmine Crockett. Where's she from?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Buck Well?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know, you know the state? Young black woman, Texas,
Oh Texas. You blew it on this one, Jasmine Crockett,
young black woman.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You trade Luca, you elect this woman? What do you
do in Texas?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Here is Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett saying eighty percent of violent
crime is actually attributable to white supremacy.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Listen, this is very simple. We right now have a
white supremacist that is sitting in the White House. He
is backed up by other white supremacists. And if you
really want to know who the criminals are in this country,
you can google it. You don't have to trust me.
But the people that commit eighty percent of the most
violent times in this country are white supremacists. Yet for
whatever reason, they sit and they serve at the pleasure
(26:00):
of the president. They are the ones that were there
on January sixth tearing our democracy down physically, and now
we have them tearing us down right here from within.
Here is the problem, of course, Congressman.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, so she calls the president a white supremacist. That's
an opinion. It's ridiculous. Was CNN about to say the
president denies being Yeah, do we have the continued cut there?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I don't even know. I haven't heard of such that.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They would never have done that before he won. Well, also,
do we have the continuation there? Maybe Greg can look
into it. I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I said cut it off, but I think it was
cutting off there. But here's what I would ask. She said,
google it, which reminds me of when Don Lemon was like,
everyone knows when women are in their Prime Google. It
like Google, it is not actually an argument when the
Google data does not in any way support this, Buck,
I don't even know what data point she could be
(26:57):
attempting to claim that white supremacist commit eighty percent of
violent crime in America. It's one of the craziest arguments
I've ever seen on CNA. I think I think she
was conflating, like, you know, hate, hate, crimes and terrorism,
and you know, the left has all these ways of
trying to, you know, change the numbers up so that
(27:20):
it looks like the real that Buck, I don't know
how you could possibly get to eighty percent under any
crime metric attributable to white supremacy.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But you have to remember, what if Clay, you were really,
really dumb.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Then then you can confuse numbers and statistics and every.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
To say it on CNN.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And by the way, I understand when some people say
things that you don't know a lot about, Like I
came on the show recently and I confessed you were
with me too. I didn't know what the capital of
Missouri was. I thought it was Columbia, Missouri. I once
knew it in fifth grade. You didn't know it either. Sorry,
Jefferson City. I hope we're number one there. But if
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you're sitting and you're doing a show and somebody comes
on and they say something like I did, like Columbia,
Missouri is the capital, and you don't get fact checked,
I can see how someone could get that wrong. Anyone
with a functional brain knows. And this is just facts
over fifty percent of all violent crime, focusing on murder
(28:23):
because we know it's the most violent of all crimes
committed by black men. So unless black men are also
white supremacists, which, to be fair, the La Times did
argue Larry Elder was the blackface of white supremacy. So
maybe Jasmine Crockett thinks the black men committing crimes are
white supremacists. The math doesn't in any way add up
(28:46):
to suggest that eighty percent of crime is white supremacy.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
But this is such a big lie.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
How does it not get fact checked in real time
on CNN?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, I think that was what was about to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I think she was spremacy supremacy, but I don't
know what else she said. But yes, no, it was.
It was one of the dumber things we have. The conclusion,
By the way, let's play the here's here's the rest
of it right now.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Of course, Congressman President Trump, of course is denied any
allegations of the way supremacist.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And that's why he what he is.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I know, I don't care what he's Oh, come on, that's,
by the way, how every that's how every argument with
your elementary school kid goes. Well, actually you need to eat,
I don't care what you say. You know, like this
is like just such a childlike response when you are
confronted with and by the way, buck, I think you're right.
The reason why that occurs is because they're afraid to
(29:44):
get sued like they fact checked. But that's her opinion.
She has the right to say it. I disagree with it.
What she doesn't have the right to say on CNN,
in my opinion, is something that is objectively easily provable
falsehood that she then says, google it. Well, I'll bet
a google it. You're one billion percent wrong. I mean,
(30:06):
the host on CNN should have corrected that. I think
probably didn't because she was afraid of being called racist.
If she pointed out that half of all murders are
committed by black men, then people are like, oh, you
can't you can't share stats that make people racially uncomfortable.
That's one of the ways they police what we're allowed
to say. It's quite a deep dive into the criminal
justice analysis of Congresswoman Crockett. I have to say, I
(30:29):
don't know if anybody else's gonna come on Texas. She's pretty.
I'll give her that. You got to do better as
a congresswoman. She lies, and she's racist, and she is
really not an advocate in any kind of intelligent way
for the people of her district in Texas. Let's talk
(30:51):
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Saving America one thought at a time. Clay Travis and
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Speaker 2 (32:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show Buck Big news.
The NFL has ended racism right just in time for
the Super Bowl. It is I mean, I know, like
we need a breaking news sound. Racism over the NFL
(32:41):
is replacing end racism from the end zones that has
existed for the last four years in the wake of
all of the BLM insanity that arose in the fall
of twenty twenty. Summer of twenty twenty, Super Bowl twenty
(33:01):
twenty one debuted end racism in the end zones. It
finally having been defeated thanks to the NFL's end zone
slogan is reportedly being replaced for the Super Bowl in
New Orleans. Now the messages in the end zone. I
(33:23):
know many of you are like, aren't the messages in
the end zone Chiefs and Eagles. Yes, they have the
team names in the end zone and then on kind
of underneath the goalpost. They have like these slogan's messages.
They now are going to say for this Super Bowl, Buck,
choose love. Very nice time for Valentine's Day. Nothing sweeter
(33:46):
than sitting with your loved one and watching Super Bowl.
And it takes all of us so end racism over.
This is what happens, Buck, when you finally get a
white cornerback started in the NFL, Everybody's like, I mean,
there must be no racism. You got a white guy
playing corner choose love, and it takes all of us
(34:09):
end racism, rest in peace gone. After four years now,
I'm having fun with this, but I do think it's
symptomatic of what we have been discussing, which is everything
just changed on November fifth, Guys, all of the bs
(34:31):
just went up in smoke. You and I know this, Buck,
because for years we've been meeting with a lot of
CEOs and people who are very successful in business, and
they would say to us, what, we basically.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Agree with everything you guys say, yeah, of course, but they.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Would say, but in our companies, you know, it's kind
of hard for us to be able to say publicly
the kind of things that you're saying. They have. First
of all, I give you on a tremendous credit because
he was out on the front lines leading the charge
in many corporations over this ridiculousness.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But once Trump won the popular vote, a lot of
CEOs in America and a lot of very powerful people
in public relations and other fields finally said, Okay, we
can pop our heads up and look around and finally
acknowledge how crazy this is. Mark Zuckerberg is sadly kind
(35:24):
of a perfect representation of this. The guy basically goes whichever.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Way the wind is blowing.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
And you can say, politically, maybe that's not a bad move,
because all his real goal is is to advance and
grow his business. And so if Democrats are in office,
he's like Mandi's great, And as soon as Republicans win,
he's like, man, censorship sucks. We got to judge people
based on the meritocracy. I do think that I hope
that he's growing a little bit more of a spine.
(35:52):
But there are a lot of Zuckerberg's out there in
your business. There are a lot of these guys who
just try to stay out of the line of fire,
don't really do much, don't really say much. They just
follow whatever the prevailing wind is. Hey, we got to
hire new people. Yeah, yeah, it's time to hire man.
We gotta really cut back. Yeah yeah, it's time to
(36:14):
cut back. The guy who always says whatever the popular
wisdom is inside of your business, that guy is suddenly like, oh, oh,
now's the time to move in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And so.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The Florida Panthers down where you are, Buck, congratulations, Panthers
won the Stanley Cup. They went to visit Trump yesterday
in the White House, he brought him into the Oval office,
got the picture with him at the resolute desk. Buck,
I didn't see one iota of criticism of an NHL
team visiting Trump in the white House. I'll tell you
when Trump won in sixteen, every single team that won,
(36:54):
it was a huge store. Are they gonna go to
the White House? Are they gonna Are they gonna acknowledge
Trump as president? Maybe that's still going to linger somewhat
in the NBA, maybe the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Everywhere else it's over.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I mean, I know a Florida resident who's relatively new
to Florida who when he first saw the headline about
the Panthers visiting the White House was like, what college
team is that? And I gave him a very hard
time for that because it wasn't me. I love the
Florida Panthers all about it. So, yes, things have definitely
definitely changed, Clay on the corporate side of things, and
(37:28):
now all of a sudden people can be more open
about what Well, actually, I just think it's very hard
to separate. You touched on this with Mark Zuckerberg. It's
very hard to separate who is just going because the
wind is so clearly blowing in this direction, and who
really has had a change of heart. Well, especially if
the change didn't happen n till post election. I think
(37:49):
that's definitely going to be the case with a lot
of these companies, all these sports operations and things that
are going on.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So that's a real.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I mean, how much does it matter, I don't know,
but if we're trying to gauge how authentic and lasting
the cultural change really will be here, you know, it's
one thing if you're like, well, I guess we got
to just sort of go with this now. It's another
thing if you say, you know, what Trump won, the
left is crazy. It's time to go back to some
kind of American normal. And that's what we would all like, right,
(38:20):
especially in the sports realm, but across the board, corporate, cultural, everything,
no doubt. And by the way, this is why whatever
Trump does. And look, I tweeted yesterday for a baseball analogy,
Trump's got like twenty home runs in April. For those
of you who are baseball fans, he's come out of
(38:40):
the gate. Who aren't baseball fans, he's come out of
the gate at an incredible pace. I don't know that
he can keep it up. But his term ends in
November of twenty eight. I know somebody was torn in
until January of twenty nine, but by twenty twenty six,
the page is going to turn from Trump. And as
great as his term may well be, we got to
(39:01):
have sustained success because Buck, you and I have talked
about this, a lot of these execu quorders. If President
Kamala Harris, God forbid, or JB. Pritzker or whoever that
person is, Gretchen Whitmer, They're gonna immediately come into the
Oval Office and revoke a lot of what Trump has done.
And so you have to have sustained victories. We need
(39:24):
to win in twenty eight, We need to win in
thirty two. This is not a You don't go from hey,
I'm five hundred pounds to getting back in shape by
having one good year. You got to stres our government
is fat, flabby and not serving the American people. One
term of any president can't solve it for the long term.
(39:45):
We need to stick together, stack together some wins. But
I am super optimistic about this. Well, this is why
these changes, in these shocks to the system in the
Swamp and in DC, they're going on. It's so important
because we're always fighting a loose using battle as conservatives,
as Republicans, as MAGA.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
All of it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
If when we win, there is an apparatus that stands
athwart us, that is non responsive to elections and actually
institutes a lot of policy. Yeah, and so this is
now the beginning of the reshaping, and it is, to
your point, the beginning of it, but this is the
reshaping of it. And I think in a lot of ways,
(40:26):
this is what we saw on Trump's first term, where
the FBI was weaponized and the various agencies were effectively
dug in and refusing to comply wherever they could with Trump,
especially in the first year or two. You know, there
were lessons learned there, and there are lessons that not
only apply for Donald Trump as a president, but I
think we'll continue to apply going forward for everybody who
(40:51):
is a Republican who's trying to change things and do
things differently. And that is you have to It's a
little bit like the playing field and the refs, right,
so we would show up to the game as Republicans
and the refs have been bought off, and you know,
one side of the field has got like divots and
holes and all this stuff in it, and we're like, well,
hold on a second, this isn't the way it's supposed
(41:12):
to be. Now we're fixing that so that there's a
more level playing field for the actual implementation of Republican policy.
It's and that's why it's just so refreshing, because Clay,
this stuff goes beyond the four years of Trump's term.
If you can reshape the federal bureaucracy, if you can
cut the spending, it changes the whole mindset. It changes
our whole perception of governance in America. It also, I
(41:35):
think that's important too, not only for Trump. Somebody out
there is the fifteen year old Elon Musk. Somebody out
there is going to be like him in the years ahead,
aspires to achieve the remarkable things that he has done
and will do that for his generation of Americans. If
(41:56):
it becomes cool to give back to your government and
make sure that the government's not wasting money, think about
these brilliant Yeah, I mean, I know they're getting ripped.
People are like, oh, they've got like nineteen and twenty
twenty year olds going through line by line the federal
government expenses like I know they're ripping them on the left,
aren't those guys?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Heroes? Like to be giving of.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Your time and not getting paid a ton of money
just for your country, to try to be more efficient
and to more fairly allocate all of our tax dollars,
like these are the best of us.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Like, that's an incredible thing to be giving, right to
have that gift?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Who should who represents more the American ethos at its
core and should be more supported by the average American
tax paying You know, guy or gal, the people who
are putting cots in government offices to stay there and
do the absolute maximum that they possibly can to eliminate waste,
(42:59):
fraud and abuse. Or the people who are crying and
throwing tantrums because they're you know, transgender, DEEI drag queen
story hour budget for Sub Saharan Africa and East Asia
and whatever is no longer in existence.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, do you see, Like, who's a good guy here
to the American people? I'm pretty sure this is clear,
but it's funny.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The media is, Oh, they're apoplectic over this, and they
just keep digging bigger holes for themselves. One bit of
news too that I meant to mention. Several of you
asked this question. Remember Joe Biden turned down the Super
Bowl interview in the past two years, which is unheard
of because you get the opportunity to talk to tens
(43:46):
of millions of Americans. Trump is doing the super Bowl
interview with Brett Behar Fox News. The super Bowl is
airing on Fox. But just FYI, a few of you
have asked, Trump is going not to prizingly, he's going
to the game, but he's also going to take the
opportunity to address the largest possible audience he can and
(44:07):
return to doing the traditional super Bowl interview. But to me,
this was a sign that they knew Biden wasn't up
to the job because the traditional super Bowl interview, Hey, look,
this is not the most difficult interview that a president's
going to sit for the fact that they didn't take
that opportunity to do it with Biden for the final
two years of his term was a sign that they
(44:29):
just didn't think he was capable of communicating in a
way that would strike most Americans as reflecting that he
could do the job. So I think they were hiding him.
Trump not surprisingly right back to doing that interview, which
I think whether you're a Democrat or Republican is a
smart political move. Why wouldn't you want to talk to
tens of millions of football fans in a relatively non
(44:50):
threatening manner on a day when most people just want
to kick back and enjoy some sports. Since we're in
the sports zone, here's an easy one. If your life
savings depended on the out come of a football game
and you had to pick for your team to win,
Joe Biden or President Trump as a coach. I think
I think every I think even everyone who voted for
(45:12):
Biden would go with President Trump to coach their team
if their life savings depended on the outcome. I don't
believe a single I don't believe a single person would
be like, you know what, I need Joe Biden to
run my football team. No way do you think Joe
Biden could stand on the sideline for three I mean,
I'm not even kidding. I don't think Joe Biden could walk.
You know, you walk several miles when you're a coach
(45:33):
on the sideline during the course of a three hour
football game, to say nothing of walking on and off
the field and all of the aspects going in and
out of the locker room. I don't think Joe Biden,
to say nothing of actually coaching. I don't think Joe
Biden could have stood on the sideline and walked to
and from the locker room just to be like ceremonially
(45:55):
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't think he's capable of doing it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
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Speaker 1 (47:16):
A lot going on.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
We've got a governor of New Jersey suggested on television
play you see this one that he was harboring an
illegal migrant, and Tom Homan the borders are pointed out.
If that is in fact true, that will be looked
at and investigated because that is a violation of federal statue.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
So we will we will get to that in a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That's a little reminder just how comfortable with defiance of
the law, with breaking of the law, Democrats have become
that they will allude on the air to perhaps breaking
laws when it comes to immigration with no fear.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
We're no concern whatsoever. Well, maybe that's changing. We shall
discuss that.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
But the big thing going on right now we wanted
to dive into is Elon Musk is giving the federal
bureaucracy a very thorough exam. He's got the rubber gloves
on and he is checking it out, seeing.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
And it turns out that there's a lot of problems
and waste and it's a mess. And so he's looking
to have the Trump administration chop things down, cut things up.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Feed it into the wood chipper, as he has said.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Part of this is the buyout package that was offered,
which only twenty thousand federal workers out of two million
have taken up the offer on this they have until
Thursday to decide if they will take eight months pay
and benefits in exchange for voluntarily resign walking away. Yes, Clay,
(49:02):
I just think if this number ends up being true,
and to your point, they have one another two days
to theoretically sign up.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's one percent right now so far less than one percent?
What percent?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
How cushy are these jobs? If that few people will
actually take this offer? Because I will tell you right now,
I guarantee you way more than one percent of the
people that are listening to us right now. If you
were told, hey, you get paid through February and you
(49:35):
can just walk away and go find a new job,
I bet twenty five percent of the people listening to
us right now would take that offer, at least because
your jobs tend to be tough and you might not
like them very much, and you would say, Okay, I'll
take that payment and I'll go find something else. I
(49:55):
don't think it's crazy to think that a quarter of
you listening to us right now would take it. Heck,
some of you who are near retirement would be like, hallelujah,
I get to leave eight months early and I'm going
to get paid through September. I'll sign up for that
in a heartbeat. My point on it, Buck is, if
these numbers end up being true, it just shows you
how cushy these jobs are and how little drive and
(50:16):
ambition and industry a lot of these employees have. Because
they're not thinking, oh, I'll go find something better. They
know that they have found the ultimate in don't have
to do anything and get paid reliably and my work
product doesn't matter job, which means all of us, the
taxpayers funding their salaries, are getting screwed. Let me tell
(50:38):
you something about having a long time ago before this
remote work from home stuff was even really technologically feasible.
Although on the national security side you can't do it
because of classification concerns, right, But for people who work it,
you know, Department of Agriculture EPA, places like that, this
is definitely going to be the case play. Whether it
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was at the CIA or in the Intelligence Division of
the NYPD, they always wanted to have fit like when
you were on the clock. They wanted to have physical
control of where you were or or you know, positive
control of your location your butt in the chair in
the office or in the cubicle, and that's where you
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had to be because there was really not very much
they could do to enforce work product, but they could
enforce presence. So the one thing about working for the
federal government until until COVID, until very recently was yeah, okay,
you know, there's a lot that you can get with
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a lot of shenanigans, a lot of wandering the hallways
in the building. You can do a lot of you know,
waiting in line for coffee, et cetera. But you have
to be there, that's the thing. And if you're you
punch in at nine and you leave at five, they
can monitor it. You'll punt, that's what you're you're expected
to do. This has changed such that now the only
really quantum fiable thing for a lot of these jobs,
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your physical presence in the workplace is gone. And this
is just if you think about it, what are people
doing at home who work for some of these departments
where no, everyone's virtual. They're all sitting there watching TV
and playing video games and maybe they got a computer
on and they, you know, press a button every fifteen minutes,
so it looks like they're active. They're not doing a
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damn thing, a lot of them at least. So that's
what has been exposed by this. Another thing, Clay Elon
must put out this twenty five minutes ago, would.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
You like Doze to audit the IRS?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You will be unsurprised to find out that over ninety
percent of the hundreds of thousands of votes are saying yes,
they would like to see how the IRS uses taxpayer dollars.
And then that brings me to the next shoe that
I think is going to drop courtesy of Uncle Elon.
Trump administration is rafting in executive order to initiate the
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Department of Education's elimination, CNN reporting on this one. The
move would come in two parts. The order would direct
the Secretary of Education to create a plan to diminish
the department through executive action, and Trump would also push
for Congress to pass legislation to end the department. As
(53:24):
those working on the order acknowledge, shutting the department would
would require congress involvement. Clay the two parts. First, Jimmy
Carter was the one who this is the one that
I was thinking of. Jimmy Carter created the Education Department.
Department of Education. The first part of this is is
a given, but it's interesting. They're basically trying to clip
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the wings of the doe, if you will. I mean
they're trying to make it I don't know how many
of your own birds, but that means the bird can't
really fly normally. They're trying to make it so that
I had a bird for a little while.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
It's a long story. You have a little while. What
kind of bird? A cockatial? Oh my god, that was
an awful decision by you. Well, my parents agreed with you,
because we gave it back to the pet store where I.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Got my sister had. My sister had a bird, and
the damn thing never shut up. I mean it was
it makes a very high noise. It was actually quite
I actually liked the bird. It's quite affectionate. But they, uh,
there's no potty training them and they just keep going
and going and going wherever. And uh they had like
a little retractable mohawk. My cockatial. I liked my cockatial.
But anyway, we don't have to get into that now.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
It's sad. I didn't last. Apparently your parents you're really poor.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
They didn't want to. They didn't want to get a
dog yet for us, so they eventually got a dog
and that was the right move. So the intermediary was
I had a cockatial and I think it lasted like
I don't know, my parents say weeks.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I think a few months.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Point being you returned it, can you return to animals somehow?
My dad, yeah, my dad would just like take this,
take this cockatial back, and they took it back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
To the pet still. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
All right, that's good, Yeah, yeah, mine got it. My
sister's got knocked. The cat knocked it over, and it
flew out of the uh into a Nashville winter day
and probably didn't last very long. I wouldn't imagine in
the in the tree, like you could see it in
the tree. The leaves were all gone. It was bright,
you know, blue pink or whatever it was. And uh,
I I don't know. I guess it probably froze to death.
(55:15):
It was a dark dark into the Travis family cockat
this is this is taking a dark turn. I mean,
but I guess maybe the cat shouldn't have tried to
eat it, I guess.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
But.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
You know how I knew that the bird was not
was not long for the h I think I was
like eight or nine when this was going on. My
dad reached into, and you know, he had been told
to be patient. He reached in to grab the bird
and it bit him because they have a meat. They
have a mean little beak if you try to get
rough with them, and it bit him, and I was like,
this bird's is not long for this world. I was
just glad there weren't tiny drumsticks on the I just
(55:48):
remember how loud that damn bird was. If you didn't
have the cover on top of the cage. It never
shut up. I mean it was incessant. I mean, Carrie
can't hear this right now, al though she could probably
listen to the show on podcasts, but she's doing something
something else.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
If she would let me, I would get a bird.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Anyway, All right, let's go back. Let's go back to
what is important here in saving the country. So the
part one Clay basically cutting the budget, slashing the budget
down or slashing the everything that the executive branch can do,
closing down as much of the Department education as possible
so that it is kind of like neutered, and then
(56:25):
trying to get Congress to go along with just shut
the whole damn thing down.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I so, first of all, the challenge here is that
these guys are going to try to sue to keep
their jobs. So what you should expect is they're going
to try to fire people, and these federal employees are
going to say, because of their incredibly protective unions, that
their contracts don't allow them to be fired. So we
(56:54):
are going to end up in a multi year battle.
This is why offering buyouts makes sense at so many
companies because it's actually very difficult to fire people. I
didn't know this until I started running a company, because
I just assumed that I could always get fired left
and right, and I've been fired.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Left and right.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
But when you are a union employee, as most of
these government employees are to my knowledge, Buck, it becomes really,
really hard to get rid of them. So I love
the idea, I've said it before, I wish and I
think this is where Elon is going to get frustrated
because the analogy here is very comparable. The email that
(57:36):
he sent to the government employees is very similar to
the one that he sent to Twitter employees. When you
own a private company, it's way easier to fire people
so long as they aren't members of unions. And it's
my understanding that Twitter was not a union based company,
and so Elon could go in and he could fire
most people or buy them out depending on what their
(57:58):
contracts were, things like that. But when you have union employees,
it becomes incredibly difficult. And so I suspect that that's
why they're trying to get people to leave voluntarily. Because
while the goal may be one that I admire and
I wish, we could fire fifty or seventy five percent
of all federal employees. And I don't think taxpayers would
miss it, and I think it would save us trillions
(58:19):
of dollars over the generations ahead. I think we're going
to have major legal challenges and it's going to be
ponderous to get much of this done. That's my concern.
I could be wrong, but the union contracts typically are
quite protection protective. Well, but I think if nothing else,
this is going to force a lot of this out
(58:42):
into the open. So people are going to realize. I mean,
even FDR thought the idea of a public sector union
was an abomination. I mean it was a whole agree
horrible idea, which is completely true, by the way. Teachers unions,
by the way, probably the worst.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Of all of this.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yes, teachers union should not exist. If you want to
teach in your local public school, whatever, that's great. That
should be left up to the public school and your
district to determine what your salary and benefits are. There
should not be this collective bargaining with the state through
public sector unions that occurs there. And so yeah, I
think that this is going to force people to look
(59:19):
at this in more detail. I would also say though,
that because you have elon looking at this, there's many
ways to get it done. And for example, it is
already existing regulation or law that if you are a
new federal government employee.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
At I think it's the EPA that is.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Covered by this right now, but it's probably true everywhere Clay,
you're technically on probation for the first year, eighteen months,
something like that. They've effectively prepared all Biden hired probationary
EPA employees probationary just because they're new, not because they've
actually done anything to be fired, and that they can
(01:00:00):
and do under the existing rules and regulations. So this
is now that's only a thousand, well a thousand people's
a lot of people, but not in the federal government context.
Point here is they're going to find every way they
can to pressure the system to cut it down to
show even just showing the public what's really going on.
And that's where I think things can get more interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Over the long run. Buckle up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
The firing of federal employees thing is going to be
really fascinating to see, and I hope although it doesn't
sound like the numbers are what we had hoped. I
hope way more than twenty thousand people are going to
end up taking these offers to get paid through September.
But if they don't, it gives you a very good
sense for how cushy those jobs really are, because again,
(01:00:48):
I bet twenty five percent of you would gladly take
a payout through September and go find a new job
because you don't particularly love the jobs you have, and
you'd like to find one that you liked more. These
federal government jobs were really tough, and people didn't feel
like they were getting compensated at their fair market value.
Do you think they'd all be trying to keep them?
I just think we're all getting taken advantage of all
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