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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, a lot of you
weighing in. This was a heck of a weekend in
terms of the incredible amount of news that just came
pouring in. And I don't think we've played this cut yet,
but I saw that the family of Edon Alexander the
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last American hostage and Buck, you and I have been
talking about this forever, that the amount of attention that
was being paid to, for instance, the El Salvadoran illegal
by Democrats, most of whom had never acknowledged that there
were Americans being held hostage. This was from the family
over the weekend. Today on Mother's Day, and it's a
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picture of the family in New Jersey, we received the
greatest gift, imaginable news that our beautiful son Edon is
returning home after five hundred and eighty three days in captivity.
We express our deepest gratitude to President Trump, Steve Whitcoff,
and the US administration for their tire work to make
this happen. We urge the Israeli government and the negotiating
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teams please don't stop. We hope our son's release begins
negotiation for all fifty eight remaining hostages, ending this nightmare
for them and their families. No hostage should be left behind.
And Trump spoke out about this earlier today, about the
fact that that release was going to happen. It is
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cut one one of very many things that took place
over the weekend that we're all, I think incredibly positive
for all of us. Here listen to cut one.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Very happy to announce that Ida and Alexander, an American
citizen who until recently most thought was no longer living,
thought was dead, is going to be released in about
two hours actually, or sometime today, let's say. And again
they thought he was dead just a short while ago.
His parents are so happy.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So buck, I mean, this is just stacking all these
different things that Trump has done an amazing job getting
Americans out of hostility and harm's way, whether it was
in Venezuela, whether it was in Russia, whether it was
in now in the Middle East. I mean, he has
been uniquely focused on getting American citizens home. And what
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you see Clay with these international wins and or international
progress on these issues there that we've been told for
a long time, I don't know that. We all of
you know it's nonsense. But the narrative has been something
like this, Donald Trump is in Putin's pocket, and he
doesn't care about anything except where the next hotel is
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going to go. Stuff like that, right, And yet what
you see with him as president already is helping to
bring things to a cease fire between India and Pakistan,
two nuclear armed states that have a law long history
of problems between them. You see him celebrating the return
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of yet another hostage and working to get more hostages home,
trying to get Putin and Zelensky to sit down for
a cease fire. No, that has been reported as well.
I think on Thursday they're supposed to sit down so
that that war can stop, trying to get more international
investment in America, trying to get things done clay that
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anybody could say is a good thing and a win
for the American people and win for humanity in the
cases of trying to bring these conflicts to a cessation
if possible. So these are the realities of Trump the president,
and they are coming up against the fairy tales. The
story is really the Boogeyman tails the nightmares that they
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told about what Donald Trump would do if he was
in office. Again, which of these goals that he is
pursuing clearly, which of these goals is not a worthy one? Right?
Which is the one where you look at this and
you say, you know, if Donald Trump really cared about America,
he would want the war to continue between Russia and Ukraine.
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He would want India and Pakistan to escalate and more
people over there to die. Of course, I think we
all understand he wants the hostages to come home. And
the media is not going to argue against that, as
much as they may be favorable to hamas in some newsrooms.
So while all this is going on, we see the
reality of Trump. Oh and by the way, even China
on the trade deal. As I said, it's not just
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some maniacal captain ahab quest to get into it with China.
He says, it's about equalizing. That was the word he
used this morning. It's about getting us to a better
place with these countries. These are now people can quibble
about his style, of course than they do, and they
can say that they wish it was more organized or
as approach or whatever it is. These are good ideas
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that are doing good things for the American people, and
the media that hates him is left to just sort
of be in this position of rooting for failure for
things that everybody would benefit from. I guess high drug
prices would be a good thing for America. Now, you
and I have laughed about this for years now, but
the argument that they've basically returned to that Trump is Hitler.
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Do you think Hitler spent a lot of time trying
to get India and Pakistan to put down their arms?
I mean, historically speaking, do you think that Zolensky, who
everybody on the left has decided is the modern day
version of Winston Churchill, right, the indisputable, unbelievable hero. You see,
Bucky just said, can Trump please be in Turkey in
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Istanbul to help with negotiating with Vladimir Putin. I don't
even know how people respond to this who are on
the left that have tried to argue, oh, Trump is Hitler?
To have Zolensky publicly saying, hey, I hope in the
middle of his Middle East that Trump will take the
time to come and help to bring peace in Europe.
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Can you imagine? I mean, it's not gonna get very
much attention. But if Zelensky had begged Joe Biden to
come and mediate a peace agreement, there would have been
headlines everywhere. Instead, this is largely sliding under the radar,
but it's indicative of a decent relationship between Trump and
Zelensky that I think, despite what happened in Noval office
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in February, a lot of people saw at the Pope's
funeral the conversation that these two guys had. Trump is
working the phones all the time, and Trump is trying
to get a deal done, and sometimes that means he
has to say bad things about Zolensky, and sometimes it
means that he has to say bad things about Putin
and good things about each as well. Because if you
go in as we said, Buck and you just say
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Ukraine is the hero here, Ukraine is the good guy,
Russia is evil, You're never gonna get any kind of agreement.
He's a mediator, and anybody who's ever been involved in
mediation knows the mediator's going from one room to the other,
and they don't always say everything that's being told behind
closed doors. Well, well, again, look at the results. Look
at the results that Biden achieved that we saw when
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he was president on the world stage, to the degree
that he was actually calling any of the shots and
that he was aware of where he was and you know,
put aside all of the dementia concerns, or at least
know that we know about those, right. So, I mean,
you have to refer to the Biden administration. I understand
that some of you are going to point out, but
Joe wasn't really okay, But the machine, this is what
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Biden's team and the Biden machinery managed. What are they
managed with Russia Ukraine? Nothing other than the perpetuation of bloodshed,
massive expense to the US taxpayer and no end in sight.
And a lot of people feeling tough about themselves putting
Ukraine flags up on their Facebook profiles or on Twitter whatever.
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That doesn't actually help anybody that was not I haven't
even gotten to it. Aghanistan, the Afghanistan withdrawal. I mean,
you look at the results of the Biden approach on
the world stage. That's supposed to be his strong suit.
Mind you, Biden was put on the Obama ticket back
in two thousand and nine, believe it or not, for
his steady hand and knowledge and foreign policy. Probably the
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worst record, and I really mean this, the worst record
on the world stage of any statesman from America, at
least in our lifetime. I mean, Joe Biden was catastrophically
wrong about everything at every point that it mattered. And
everybody in DC has always known that, just like they
knew that he had dementia. But put as I said
that aside for a moment, look at what Trump is achieving,
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look at what Biden is look at what Biden achieved.
And that's you know, putting it in a way that
I think we probably should find other words for. And
this is why I think they're left doing stuff like this. Here, Clay,
we've got they're upset over this, this report that Cutter
is going to be giving some kind of app you know,
they're going to be giving a plan. I have to
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read more of the details of us, to be honest
with you, because I've seen some conflicting reports. But this
is cut twenty six plates. Why you're saying people who
view that luxury jet as a.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Person all get to you? Why not leave it? You're
ABC fake news, right, It's only ABC.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well a few of you would, let me tell you,
you should be embarrassed to ask him their question. They're
giving us a free jet. I could say no, no, no,
don't give us. I want to pay you a million
or four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I
could say thank you very much. You know those An
old golfer named Sam sneed Did you ever hear me?
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Won eighty two tournament? Was a great golfer, and he
had a motto. When they give you a putt, you
say thank you very much, You pick up your ball,
and you walk to the next hole. A lot of
people are stupid. They say no, no, I insist on
putting it, and then they put it and they miss
it and their partner gets angry at them. You know what,
remember that Sam sneaed. When they give you a putt,
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you pick it up and you walk to the next
toll and you say thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Have you ever been given a gift worth millions of dollars?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And an Oxeason's not a gift to me. It's a
gift to the Department of Defense. And you should know
better because you've been embarrassed enough, and so has your network.
Your network is a disaster. ABC is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I just think this is going to be the focal point,
and this is how it goes with Trump. We're gonna
get a trillion dollars an investment commitment capital from the
Middle East, according to the reports that I have read,
and the government overwhelmingly is going to focus on this
guitar jet now four hundred million dollars reported jet. Again.
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To me, this is emblematic of Trump's frustration with Boeing
and their inability to actually get the new Air Force
one jets completed the government's fleet. And I understand people
are going to be concerned. They're going to say, hey,
is this the right choice to make. To me, it's
not worth the negative attention. This would be my general
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proposition on it, because there's so much positivity. But also
Trump actually knows airplanes pretty well. And I was on
Air Force one and it feels like an air It's
a very cool aircraft. I'm not to try get a
shot at it, but it feels like something that was
built in the nineteen eighties. We shouldn't have gone forty
years between new Air Force one aircraft. That is a
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huge failure of Boeing. Trump is just fed up with
the speed of government, and what he's doing is he's saying, well,
why can't we have a better quality, safer aircraft And
if we're not going to have it, then I'll use
this one in the meantime and maybe it'll pressure Boeing
to finally finish the new generation of Air Force one craft,
which was supposed to be done like a decade ago. Buck.
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I mean, it is kind of indefensible that Boeing has
been paid billions of dollars and still hasn't delivered. Boeing
has had huge problems for many years, as you know,
and it's unfortunately, I think, indicative of some of the
the high level manufacturing decline in this country. And really
it look but Boeing used to be the gold standard
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of making planes that are incredibly safe, and it has
lost some steps, and there are a few reasons why.
I think one of them is the financialization, if you will,
of Boeing moving it away. I think, well, initially it
was in Seattle, right, and then they moved it to Chicago.
The headquarters became a little bit too focused on quarterly
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stock price and not as much on making the best,
safest planes and other things imaginable. And then of course
there's the DEI component of it. As well, which people
can talk about and decide how much they think that's
influenced it. But yeah, again, I wonder at this point,
so if Cutter is going to give use of this
plane or going to give this plane so that it
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can be transferred into air Force, one people would rather
the administration pay for it?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Is that? Is that?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What is the position of the criticism or those who
critiquing this is he shouldn't accept this on behalf of
the presidency because it's buying off his interest toward Cutter,
or rather it's making him too favorable toward Cutter.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Is that really?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
What is the prim The only argument and you would
know better than me, is allowing a foreign company to
make a jet could create security related concerns, right or
and I'm assuming that we have high level sweeping that
takes place before the president gets on anything, but I'm
talking about listening devices things like that. That's the only
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criticism of this I can see having any basis. In fact,
I'm not saying that I buy it because I think
we'd be able to vet the plane before the president
goes on, as they vet every plane before the president
gets goes on. But that's the only thing I can
possibly think could be played here. I just I mean,
you know, maybe we should give back the Statue of
Liberty too. You know, France bought us off. France, You
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you scoundrels with your Statue of Liberty that sits in
New York Harbor, paid for by the people of France.
We didn't. We didn't pay for the Statue of Liberty.
I'm just saying I got to get it back. It
is funny that we're going to get a trillion dollars
in benefit from this travel and a four hundred million
dollars jet is going to be the headline for a
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huge numbers of legacy media. Another thing that's tiresome is
Trump is worth billions of dollars. The idea that any
country or any person is going to be able to
just do some something that is a min you know,
not going to change Trump's life in any meaningful way whatsoever,
but they're going to buy him off. I just think
it is preposterous. The west of beest president we've ever
had is the least susceptible, in my opinion, to being
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bought off than any president we've ever had. This is
one of the reasons Trump had such appeal. I think
initially when he came down the escalator in twenty fifteen,
Buck is because I think a lot of like Elon
said about Putin. Can that's right? Can Putin be bought?
Can Putin buy off? Elon? No, because he can't afford Okay,
because each one has more money than show on the planet.
Such a ballerline for people who miss that. Elon said,
I can't be bought off because Putin doesn't have enough money,
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basically a voicemail a little microphone. That's something that we've
lost as well. The whole world has lost it. The
coming home from the office or whatever, having you know,
you have seven messages. You know, it's like, so this
is a little bit used to be super exciting. You
didn't know it was blinking. You're like, hey, who was this?
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And now that ever happened, it was invariably like a
bill collector or something, and you're like, this is sad,
you know, male, actual physical mail has just turned into
a point of anxiety for me. With the exception of
now the babies born, we got a lot of gifts
from so many people. Is very calm. We appreciate that.
But the mail that goes into your mailbox, it's never good.
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It's never anything that I want, really, It's always just garbage.
You know, it belongs a La poubelle. So I remember,
I'm old enough to remember. Buck. I don't know if
there was something that would come in the mail that
you were super excited to get back in the day
for me, Sports Illustrated. I was like, who was going
to be on the coach issue? Which issue?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Clay?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The swimsuit issue, of course was a was a hot
point in February that come out that got banned at
my high school. So did me would allow it? Just
a particular one not allowed to have that? Of course
you could have the one with like Barry Bonds on
the cover, but right right, Sports Illustrated, Yep, the d
and they had to do a special announcement, no Maxim,
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no stuff, no Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, you know edition, which
a little totalitarian. I was a little kind of living
in North Korea for a while there, Clay, except it
was Jesuits instead of the Kim family. I nineteen eighties,
early nineteen nineties, pre internet, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue
was absolutely iconic. And I know there's a lot of
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people out there listening right now that remember that very well.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You'd be.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You were super excited to go down and get it.
But every week leave aside the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue.
Who was on the cover used to be a monster deal.
One of your favorite players, one of your favorite teams.
You couldn't wait to see who was going to be
the cover of Sports. I don't even know how many
times they published Sports Illustrated. Now, you know, I looked
into trying to buy it when they we kicked the
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tires on company and what it was going to cost.
But it's not a very good business right now. So
back to our talkback sentence. The talkbacks on whatever you
want today and the best ones are the most insightful
or funniest. We'll play them for you in the back
of this hour, back in the next hour. Okay, we
talked first hour about this. I think this is very interesting.
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First of all, as you know, beginnings of a trade
deal framework with China, market rallying, hostage return from Hamas today,
a lot of wins, right, a lot of wins. But
a story that Trump has also put into the news
cycle here has to do with the resettling of some
refugees from South Africa. Now, the administration had spoken about
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this before Trump signed an EO on this, and it's
very interesting to see the objections to this. I want
to spend a little time on this, Claiy, because I
think this is a fascinating issue. And let me just
tell you. First off, I think fifty of them have
been are in the process five zero five zero, okay,
are on the process of being resettled. I think you know,
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we've seen that guy tied to MS thirteen. He had
like eight people in the car when the cops pulled
them aside at Brego Garcia, and they were saying that
the police said they believed that he was a human trafficker.
Fifty people is not a lot of people. But the
media is very very iffy on this, very concerned about this,
a lot of questions all of a sudden, after ten
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plus million people piled into the country, falsely claiming by
the numbers, go look at the court cases. Over ninety
percent of them not actually worth or you know, should
not get asylum, not actually people deserving of asylum. Fifty
South Africans show up, and there's a problem with this
because they're white, and you say, you sit here, you
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go hold on it. So is our policy that you
can't be a white refugee. That certainly would have been
news to a lot of Ashkenazi Jews during the Second
World War. You can't be a white refugee. This is
Trump speaking about this play twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Now South Africa leadership is coming to see me. I
understand sometime next week, and you know, we're supposed to
have a guess a G twenty meeting there or something.
But we're having a G twenty meeting. I don't know
how we can go unless that situation's taken care of.
But it's a genocide that's taking place that you people.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Don't want to write about.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But it's a terrible thing that's taking place. And farmers
are being killed. They happen to be white. But whether
they're white or black makes no difference to me. But
white farmers are being brutally killed and their land is
being confiscated in South Africa, and the newspapers and the media,
television media doesn't even talk about it. If it were
the other way around, they talk about it, that would
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be the only story they talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't care who they are.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I don't care about their race, their color. I don't
care about their height, their weight, I don't care about anything.
I just know that what's happening is terrible. To have
people that live in South Africa they say it's a
terrible situation taking place. So we've essentially extended citizenship to
those people play.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The media has generally written more skeptical and even critical
coverage of fifty white South five zero white South Africans
being resettled in this country under refuge under refugee status
than they did for four years of Biden. With ten
plus million illegals being cartel human traffic across the border,
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what is going on? I think, I mean, I think
we know what's going on totally. And look, this goes
into we talked about what an incredible weekend Trump had
in so many different positive results, and we should mention basically,
the stock market is now back at the price that
it was in January. Stock price is surging today. And
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I hope that a lot of you did not buy
into that fear that they tried to drive. Oh, the
stock market's going to collapse, the government, you know, the
our economy is going to collapse, all that stuff. We
told you to stay calm, either buy more if you
had the ability to do it, or at least hold
on to your stocks. I hope you guys did. I
hope you didn't let the panic get to you. But
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the thing that they're not talking about at all, to
your point, Buck, the southern border is one of the
biggest successes that I can remember any president ever saying
I will fix it. We are a lot from politicians
who basically make a living saying I will fix it,
and then they get into office and nothing really changes.
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Can you remember in one hundred days and it even
took less than one hundred days, It only took thirty.
Can you remember anything that a president has ever fixed
faster than what Trump did at the border? Such that
nobody even talks about it now. It's just it was
a huge story. It was a huge concern of the
American people going into this last election. As we know,
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right alongside the economy, it was really one to two
economy one border two, and some polls border could even
outstrip the economy depends because the border of the economy
are tied together too. There's a lot of these things
are seen side by side. But remember, it's not just
clay that he fixed it so quickly. It's that he
came in and fixed it so quickly. And the previous
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occupant of the Oval Office had spent four years, through
his surrogates and through the media telling us it's so hard,
it's so complicated, we can't do anything to fix this,
which was always a lie, because of course they could.
One of the biggest changes isn't just the enforcement mechanisms
at the border. It is what if we say a
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million times to your Clay, we talked about the border,
It's about the incentives. If you think you can get
in and stay, a lot of people will come. People
Now think, hold on a second, do I want to
pay a coyote five, ten, fifteen grand? Do I want
to deal with the cartels and show up in Mexico
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and spend time in an immigration facility in America? And
all this stuff? If I don't think I'm an I
get to stay him, I get sent home. Completely changes
the calculation. But I did want to bring this back
Clay to why is there such I mean, here's the
Associated Press seen a reporting on this. Episcopal Church says
it will not help resettle white South Africans granted refugee
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status in the US. Piscal Church's Migration service is refusing
a directive from the federal government to help resettle white
South Africans granted refugee status, citing the church's long standing
commitment to racial justice and reconciliation. Presiding Bishop Rowe announced
that after forty nine South Africans departed their homeland bound
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for new homes in the US, Episcopal migration ministries will
halt its decades long partnership with the government. But the
Episcopal Church is refusing to help with after forty years
of oh yeah, give it. You know, anybody will help
anybody come into this place and resettle them, they won't
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help these South Africans be resettled. They are subject to
state sponsored Now they see this is why this is
so Hold on, what's going on in South Africa? You
start to look at this, what's happening in South Africa,
Clay South Africa is actually it has become a sort
of final stage, you know, affirmative action state, if you will,
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where they have actual hard quotas so that you know,
companies like the board of a company has to be
eighty five percent black, and you know the employees of
a company have to be eighty five whatever I'm making
up the numbers, it's something like that. And the government
also is constantly flirting with more ways to take land
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from white farmers in that country, and this has caused
a tremendous amount of dysfunction. The government is insanely corrupt
by the way. It has economically been reduced to a
horrible rate of growth, and there's a lot of poverty
and crime and all these things, but there's open racial
discrimination by the state. That's what it is. Our own constant,
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our own Supreme Court said you actually can't do this
in Harvard admissions. Well, you also shouldn't be able to
do this anywhere else. You shouldn't be able to discriminate
on the basis of race. And that's why there's such
an outrage here to bringing fifty five zero white South
Africans into this country under refugee status because they are
being discriminated against. This country is so unsafe that they
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don't make women stop at red lights after dark in
many parts of the country. I mean, think about how
unfortunate that is. Any country where you just say and
everybody just kind of accepts it, Hey, if you're driving
at night and you're a woman, you don't have to
stop at a red light is a country that has
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been completely taken over by criminal elements, and it's unfortunate
that that has occurred. And you know, I know when
they had the World Cup, the amount of secure that
was required for the teams was off the charts. They
basically put all of the different teams at the World
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Cup that South Africa hosted behind prison, you know, walls
almost in many ways to keep them from being able
to even go out in many parts of the country
because they were so concerned about the safety of the
players from all the different countries. That's a sign obviously
that things have fallen apart. And I think it's gotten
worse there in terms of safety for all people since.
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And it is unfortunate and the fact that you would
make that the focal point. Again, the point is, none
of the successes get talked about, and anything that they
can put in a negative light becomes a huge part
of the focus.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Here.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Here's how this issue is covered, for example, at the
New York Times. I want you to I'm gonna read
this so you know exactly and this was let me see, yeah,
this is about a year or two ago New York Times.
Kill the Bore Bore is a reference to white South
Africans kill the boor song fuels backlash in South Africa
and US. Right wing commenters claim that an old apartheid
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chant is a call to anti white violence, but historians
and the left wing politicians who embrace it say don't
take it literally. They have songs in stadiums about killing
the white people in their country and they're allowed to
chant and sing this, and The New York Times is like,
hold on, everybody, maybe we just shouldn't take it literally.
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And given what's going on in the country, it's not
like everyone's getting along great and the country's functioning really well,
and yet they will take that position on this. I
just think what you see here is that we have
the left in this country has decided that our immigration
policy is first and foremost about taking people from the
impoverished third world nations that are non white, and that
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that is actually the focus of our immigration because otherwise,
why fifty migrants fifty migrants? Is I saw three hundred
migrants coming into the US at one time across the border.
Fifty migrants. We took ten million illegals in four years.
So yeah, it's kind of amazing what the focal point is.
And that's now been stopped, and so this becomes a story.
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we'll also play some of your talkbacks coming forward. Eight
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Speaker 1 (32:31):
Australia's manliest man at least that supports Donald Trump. Crocodile
Hunter's dead. I think it. Maybe you is with us now?
Nick Adams got a brand new book out. We'll ask
them about that. Who would you say, as an Australian
is the manliest man in Australia right now? Because I
think it might have been the crocodile hunter back in
the day, right Steve Irwin? But who would you say
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is the manliest man in Australia now? Is that a
title that you would be happy to aspire to?
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Well, look, it certainly was me up until twenty sixteen.
Given that I am now an American.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I really when you had to relinquish the title manliest
man in Australia to become an American? I did.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I did, actually, And even though I relinquished the title,
it was still an upgrade Clay. So I believe I'm
firmly in contention for the manliest man in America now too,
up there with you, of course and our good friend Buck.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
But it's a tight competition. But I hopefully will pip
you boys at the post. Nick, appreciate you being here
with us from Mara Lago to Mars President Trump's Great
American comeback. What are you telling everybody about in the
book that they need to hear? What is the I mean?
(33:46):
I think we have a sense of where it's going
because of what the title is. But what for you
is the most the most sillient points about what Clay
and I have turned that. I'm sure you'd agree the
greatest political comeback in history.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Definitely the greatest political comeback in history. Look, Buck, the
reality is, I've written a few books, but this is
the first book I've written that is as much a
self help book as it is a political and historic
Americana book. This is a book that really provides a
manual for people to win on the battlefield that we
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call life. All based on what we saw President Trump
do over the last three to four years, how he
managed to not just survive but thrive despite the unparalleled
adversity that he was subjected to. I mean, let's just
think about it. He was censored, he was deplatformed, They
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tried to bankrupt him, They impeached him twice, arrested, sued, indicted,
They tried to kill him twice that we know of.
This is a man that had so much thrown at him,
and yet he never ever once compromised even an inch,
which never retreated, never ever went back on anything that
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he said, even though it would have been much more expedient,
much easier for him to do so. He's never stopped
fighting for the American people, for the people that have
been forgotten and abandoned by America's political elite. And there
is a Donald Trump, I think in all of us.
And that's what I wanted to capture in from mar
A Lago to Mars President Trump's Great American Comeback. I
(35:26):
wanted to really get people to understand that you too
can get through life if you apply the principles that
Donald Trump has of being able to turn every setback
into a setup for a comeback through positive thinking, through
just never ever giving up. And I think that there
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are so many things that we can learn from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Neck. Why do you think white Black, Asian Hispanic young
men are breaking towards Trump in such a degree? Certainly
we saw this in the twenty twenty four election. You
spend a lot of time talking to younger guys through
social media. What do you think is attracting them to Trump?
And why do you think we're seeing this cultural shift
(36:14):
that's so prominent not only among young you know, white Black,
Asian Hispanic men, but also among athletes where supporting Trump
has become cool in a way that it was not
in Trump one point.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Zero Clay, he's the ultimate man's man. He doesn't apologize,
He is authentic, he is bold. He has what I
like to coin testicular fortitude, a term that you and
I are very, very familiar with, and young men relate
to that. Young men love that, and those that can't
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relate to it aspire to have it and are attracted
to it. So that's the reason that I think young
men turned out in record numbers last year in twenty
twenty four or to bring President Trump back to the
White House because they saw someone that reminded them of
what men used to be and of what a man
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can still be if they're prepared to never take a
backward step, to own who they are, to be unapologetically them.
That's what's so incredible about Donald Trump. No matter where
he goes Clay, it doesn't matter if he's speaking in
a rural area in the Midwest. He doesn't put on
a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt and a
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cowboy hat. He's always wearing that same distinctive dark blue
suit with the solid tie. He doesn't change his accent
like Hillary Clinton, and Michelle Obama and Baraco Obama and
all of those other fake phony Democrats. He's always got
that same distinctive queen's accent. And there is nothing more
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masculine about somebody that just is who they are and
couldn't kill less whether you like it or not. And
if you don't like it, they more than forbid the
tendy to go and pound sand or jump in the like.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So I want to have you react Nick to this
Bill marklip that got a lot of attention over the weekend.
It has to do with the status of the Democrat
Party and men and masculinity, and just the way the
Democrats have completely devolved into a party of emotionally destabilized wackos.
Here is he's still a Democrat, but not as crazy
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as some of them. Bill Maher, this has cut twenty
four play it.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
If the thought leaders in the Democratic Party keep encouraging
and not rebuking the idea that America is cringed and
the people who run Gaza are great, the Democrats are doomed.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Alyssa.
Speaker 8 (38:47):
Slotkin's right, Liberals are weak and woke, especially the white ones,
and they indulge all sorts of nonsense from their kids,
a pattern that then continues on in the Democratic Party.
Last election, it was all the gender stuff, the insistence
that men can have babies and such, and now I
fear that we like the terrorists. Is the new that
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liberals need to push back on the dumb ideas that
come from their children. The Democrats problem is the energy
of the parties with the young and the younger with
the terrorists.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's not good. I don't think Nick the Democrats are
actually pushing back on this stuff, though. I think that
they're just hoping they can sell it better the next
time around.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
The Democrats buck have become the party of criminals, illegal aliens,
and perversion. That's really pretty much all they stand for.
And for as long as they stand for that, they're
not going to have any kind of electoral success. And
Donald Trump really is now owning so many issues that
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used to be the domain of the left of the Democrats,
and it's a wonderful thing to see. The Democrats have
completely lost their way. Donald Trump broke them and it's
something that I point out in my book From mar
A Lago to Mars. He broke them now to a
point where you look, politics is cyclical, Democrats, of course,
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are going to recover in some form, but for a
while now they are really going to struggle to get
out under the entire miss that they have built for themselves.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Nick. I know you're an American citizen now, but there
are a lot of people out there in Australia, there
are a lot of people in England. There are a
lot of people who don't feel seen in these countries,
and certainly all over Europe we've seen it as well.
How important do you think, as somebody who is from
a different country but now lives here, that America's position
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and Donald Trump's particular positions are not just significant for
the United States, but also frankly for all of Western civilization.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Look, if the world is a spiderweb clay, America is
right in the center of it, and any kind of
movement and the entire web shakes. I think there was
someone famous that once said that if America gets a cough,
the world catches a cold, and that still remains the case.
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It is very important that people in Australia and England
and Canada and all across the world, even in the
non English speaking countries, they see the strength and the
courage and the devotion that Donald Trump has, and they
hope for it in their own leadership because here in
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America we know what weak and stupid leaders are. I mean,
we got used to it. And now we have a
president like President Trump, who's tough and smart, the absolute antithesis,
and as a result, America is winning. I mean, look
at President Trump's undefeated season. It's incredible what's going on
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in the country right now. It's like waking up every
morning and it's Christmas. And I know that there are
people in other countries that may not have the freedoms
that America does. They don't have a First Amendment, really,
they don't have a second Amendment at all. And these
people are hoping to get a leader that has the
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courage and has the strength, and has the wisdom and
has the willingness to sacrifice, which is really what is
just so remarkable about remarkable about Donald Trump. He's just
so willing to sacrifice everything for what he believes in.
And that's why I think about American history, Clay and Barkan,
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America is so lucky compared to other countries. We had
General Washington at the start of our country. We had
President Lincoln, at the rebirth of our country. And now
we have President Trump at the rejuvenation of our country
on the eve of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
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a time when most historians will tell you great superpowers
are really in survival mode. And I think it's a
wonderful thing. He is a once in a century at
bare minimum type of leader.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I'm proud to.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Have supported him from the sixteenth of June twenty fifteen
when he came down the escalator. I've been with him
from day one. This is a very very special guy.
I've been very blessed. Talk about an immigration story. I
mean for me to come over here and at the
age of thirty two, to be on Air Force one,
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being appointed to the president, to different boards, to have
a personal relationship with him. I was just in the
Oval Office with him last month. You know, he is
somebody that we will be studying for centuries to come.
And that's why I wrote this book. From mar Lago
to Mars, President Trump's Great American Comeback.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
You can pre order. You can pre order Your comes
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So now he just is an American Clay with a
cool accent. Like you know, he's got that Miranda divine accent,
No doubt, tremendous difference. Nick, good luck on the book
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tour and we look forward to talking to you down
the line. Thanks, boys, it's always a pleasure. Stays strong.
We'll do for sure. It's Nick Adams. Check out the
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Speaker 1 (45:40):
We bring in a new part of the Clay and
Buck podcast Network. We are super excited to bring her in.
She is a mother as well as an expert on
many different fields of medicine. Doctor Nicole Sapphire new podcast
is going to be called Wellness Unmasked. It's in the
Clay and Buck podcast Network. It will debut tomorrow and
(46:01):
we'll get into that in a sec. But I believe
you have two boys. If I'm not mistaken, doctor Sapphire,
how would your mother's day? Did you do anything fun?
Speaker 9 (46:10):
Hey guys, thanks so much for having me on. I
actually have three boys, three sons with buy me then
you throw in the husband and the dogs.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I have a lot more boys, who takes more. My
wife says that I take more mothering and taking care
of in terms of difficulty than the boys do. I
don't know if that's true or not. But is your
husband more of a challenge or the three boys?
Speaker 9 (46:33):
You know what, I think they all have their equal
parts difficult days and good days, but everybody contributes and
I love it. This was a perfect weekend Mother's Day weekend.
We had phenomenal weather in the Northeast, which is a
shock because we have had pretty bad weather for what
feels like months, and so we were essentially outside all
day every day, Saturday and Sunday, and it was glorious,
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no doubt.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Okay, tell us about the podcast, which we're super excited
to have off and running.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Well.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
I am beyond thrilled to announced wellness Unmasks. It's part
of your network. We are going to be talking all
things help and wellness. You know, people say some people
don't like to talk politics, some people don't like to
talk sports, but I can tell you everyone, at some
point in their life cares about their health, and there's
so much information coming out of us, out of everywhere.
(47:21):
You don't know what's true, it's not true. I mean
we all really learned that during COVID. I mean, follow
the science, listen to the experts. Well turned out pay
were wrong in a lot of things. And I am
known for kind of looking at the science myself, reading
the data myself, and giving an honest opinion, an honest,
unfiltered opinion. And I want to continue to do that,
whether we're talking about cold plunges or we're talking about
(47:45):
the latest research when it comes to the foods that
we're eating and potential disease. I mean, all you have
to do is turn on the radio, turn on the
TV these days and you see RFK Junior or someone else.
Help is a huge topic these days, and it is
important that we sift through it all and we kind
of break it down so it's no nonsense.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Doctor Sapphire, thanks for being with us and welcome to
the podcast network. What is your reaction when you see
this this big move from Trump over the weekend and
more details on it today on prescription drug prices, because
again for those of us not actually prescribing and not
having to know the names of the drugs and what
they do and operating in that world. It just seems
(48:26):
pretty straightforward that there's something wrong with as Trump says,
the fat shot, quote unquote, but drugs costing a whole
lot more here than they do in a lot of
other countries, including very wealthy countries. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (48:40):
So, anybody who has been following President Trump since his
first term knows that he has been focused on reducing
the cost of prescriptions here in the United States. I mean,
in twenty twenty four alone, Americans spent ninety eight billion
dollars out of pocket on prescription drugs. That's twenty five
percent increase in just the last five years. During his
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first term, he went the old fashion route and he
went through legislation and he tried to pass bills to
reduce drug costs. Well what happened, Well, big Pharma, the lobbyists,
they all pushed back and a lot of the changes
that he tried to make the Biden administration did not continue.
And so here we are again in the first few
(49:21):
months of his administration, and he is going hard after
these drug companies. And it's going to be unpopular because
drug companies are one of the biggest lobby powerhouses. They
spend a lot on campaigns, So a lot of your
politicians out there get money from drug companies. But what
President Trump is doing, which is different than what Biden
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was doing. So people will say, well, President Biden was
also working on lowering drug prices, and that is true.
He was, but he was specifically just doing a few
select drugs, specifically for those who are on Medicare, so
people who are sixty five and older. What President Trump
is saying is, we want to make sure that Medicare
is able to negotiate with these drug companies, but we
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also want to expand that to Medicaid as well as
the private insurance companies, because why should just the elderly
have more affordable drug prices? What about everybody else? And
so that is why this is a very big executive order.
What he's saying, we have thirty days to come to
the table drug companies. You're going to negotiate with RFT Junior,
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the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and you are
going to figure out how we can lower the cost
of prescription medications here in the United States. Now you
think that people are going to come out and criticize this,
I mean, I think people would look pretty bad criticizing
the idea of wanting to decrease pharmaceutical cost to Americans.
I mean, that'll make them look bad, but these are
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really big goals, and so we want to make sure
that it's not all talk and that they are able
to follow through with this, and so it will take
a lot of negotiations, but there's going to be a
lot of legal hang ups, especially when it comes to
the pharmaceutical industry. They're going to tie this up in
the legal system.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Uncertain of it, Nicole doctor Sapphire not going to cole
Sapphire with us right now. How would you assess from
a doctor perspective the start of the RFK Junior tenure
because it's been very controversial. I know we've got a
new Surgeon general nominee potentially coming. How would you assess
(51:26):
what RFK Junior is focused on? And doctor means I
think who has now been potentially elevated as the next
Surgeon General. How well do you think he has done?
What do you think he could do better?
Speaker 9 (51:40):
I think that the impetus between the Make America Healthy
Again Movement rft JOR and everything that they're focusing on
right now, there's all everything that the United States needs
we need to be looking at our chronic illness epidemic.
I've been talking about this pre COVID. During COVID, we
saw Americans were not doing well once they got infected
with COVID because we had such an overweight population, because
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we have so much chronic illness, and so that rendered
us vulnerable. And so to actually look at that and
not just say, well, let's just create more medications to
treat the illness, but let's figure out why we've gotten
this looking at what's in our food supply specifically. You know,
we hear our Key Junior say all the time he's
talking about seed oils. Well, if you actually look at
seed oils, there's good data, including a new study that
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just came out of Cornell linking lineleic acid, which is
in one of the seed oils, directly to cancer formation.
How do we have these in our food here in
the United States, but they're not allowed in food elsewhere
throughout the world. So I do applaud them at looking
at some of these things and really looking at the
root cause of our illness and not just focusing on
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expanding access to treatment. You want to have both there.
The I guess we could call it drama surrounding the
Surgeon General nominee Pick. It certainly has been played out
online and I actually did respond to it myself. I
put out a video because I was getting a million
text messages, phone calls, people stopping me in the hospital
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asked me what my opinion was. And when it comes
to a surgeon General pick, I think they need to
fit three boxes. The first box, they have to be
aligned with the Make America Great Again movement and President Trump.
That means that this person needed to speak out during
COVID some way or the other. They had to either
speak out to say we should be trying everything in
terms of treating this illness when we don't have known treatments,
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whether it was hydroxychloroquin ivermectin. They needed to speak out
when it was clear natural immunity and the vaccine and
douce immunity we're having similar effects. And when they started
pushing the mandates and vaccinations for kids, they needed to
speak out and say, let's pump the rakes for a
second and see if there is really a risk benefit
ratio there that would indicate these kids should be vaccinated
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against COVID.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
If they didn't do that.
Speaker 9 (53:53):
If they weren't a part of any of that, then
they don't fit that Berks box. The second box is
the make America healthy again. It doesn't necessarily mean that
they have to be aligned or have worked with RFK
Junior in the past, but they have to have been
speaking about chronic illness and prevention as well as some
more natural ways to prevent illness. And they can't just
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be doing it right now because it's trendy. They have
to have been doing it before and now the last one,
and this is what I find very important. Our healthcare system,
our medical industry, public health. We're all completely fractured since
COVID because we've lost a lot of trust, and rightfully so,
and so we need to unify our medical professionals, and
we also need to unify patients across the United States.
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And so we need someone who is respected enough in
the industry that physicians are going to look to them,
because the Surgeon General is essentially a public figure where
they are going to be espousing to make America great
again and they make America healthy again talking points. But
if they don't have the respect of their peers, then
no one's going to listen to them, and that message
is not going to get very far, and it's certainly
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not going to last beyond an administration. My biggest concern
about the current nominee, doctor Casey Means, is while she
may be very intelligent and she's very well spoken, she
didn't even finish medical school, so therefore she's never actually
I'm sorry she finished medical school, she didn't finish her
medical training, her residency training, and so because she didn't
finish her training, she's never been an actively practicing physician.
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She doesn't fit that first box of the make America
gradio again because she wasn't seeing patients, she wasn't treating patients,
and she didn't necessarily speak out against COVID during that time.
She absolutely is aligned with Make America Healthy again.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
She is.
Speaker 9 (55:34):
I believe she and RF Junior are actually very close,
And she doesn't necessarily fit that third box in the
sense that a lot of medical professionals are not going
to look to someone who never even completed their medical
training to lead them. So those are my big concerns.
I think we need to be unifying right now, and
I'm not sure this is the way to go.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Doctor Nicole Sapphire with us now. She's launching a podcast
tomorrow here on the Claim Block network, Wellness on and
Doctor Sapphire. If I could for a moment, sorry, I'm
now turning into the guy at the cocktail party who's like,
you know, my elbow kind of hurts. What do you
think it could be? I wanted to do a quick
I'm sure you get that right, Like, hey, doc, you
know what's wrong with my eye? You know, but a
(56:15):
quick lightning round. I have a couple of things I
just want to throw out to you and you can
just Sauna's important. Good, yeah or nay? Where are we
on saunas?
Speaker 9 (56:24):
So I love saunas. I especially like infra red saunas.
I literally have it looks like a sleeping bag in
my house that I lay myself in and I put
my body in because he is really good for chronic
inflammation and pain, and it's a really good way to
detoxify your body. It also can help you increase your metabolism.
It can help you sleep if you use it in
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the evening time. I'm a huge fan of saunas.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
Okay, so good because yes you can. They're They're every
They're everywhere here in South Florida. Now, so I'm always
kind of wonder cold plunge. Is it really going to
turn me into, you know, the best version of myself
if I jump into cold water?
Speaker 9 (57:01):
All right, I can tell you that I have not
jumped on the cold plunge bandwagon the way that you
should from a scientific standpoint. Absolutely by doing that, it
does have health benefits. It decreases inflammation and it stimulates
your cardiovascular system. I hate being cold personally, which is
bizarre that I live in the Northeast, so I'll go
sit in Thesana any day, but don't talk to me
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about cold plunging.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Clay, do you have a lightning round? Are you go?
Speaker 4 (57:26):
Well?
Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, I was just gonna say I convinced Buck I
love the cold plunge. Now, when we were in Miami,
we jumped in this. I mean, but I don't know
how cold you need to go, and I have my
family and the cold plunge with me. We were at
the gym and Clay went into the coldest plunge, which
I think is like forty five degrees or something, and
I was like, Clay, you do you man, I can't
do that.
Speaker 9 (57:46):
Hey, listen, there are health benefits to it, and you
know it's trendy. I do hate to join in on
the trends, but yeah, no, I can get behind the
health benefits of it. But for me, I think there
are other ways to decrease that inflammation and stimulate the
body without being freezing cold.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
See if you guys listen to doctor Sapphire's podcast, Wellness Unmasked,
you'll get all kinds of great health advice and tips,
as well as know what's going on in the world
of health, medicine policy all the rest. So doctor Sapphire
honored to have you with us. Thank you so much
and we'll be talking to you again soon.
Speaker 9 (58:17):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
That's the car Doctor Nicole Sapphire now a part of
the Clay and Podcast Network, which kind of a madman
in a cold plunge, like you stayed in law. I'll
be honest with you, I would have bet against you
staying in the cold plunge as long as you did.
You know, they have this stuff now at some of
these gyms in Florida where you go the cold plunge,
and they got the sauna and they got all these things,
and I was I was a little bit impressed. I
was totally whimping out on that one. You know what's
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funny is if you tell me somebody else has done it,
then I immediately know that I can do it. We
were in Strawberry Strawberry Springs or something like that, out
in Steamboats Marines and somebody my wife was like, well,
Joe Rogan does this for like five minutes at a time,
because I was only doing like two minutes, and I
was like, Joe Rogan does it five. I could do
(59:01):
five minutes in this, and then I stayed in for
five minutes. I think I could do pretty well with
the cold plunge. And we're now adding a cold plunge
the new house because the boys were like super interested
in it. So I love it. I'm glad Doctor Sapphire's
got to get with the ball, not just the sauna.
You got to go sawn a cold plunge back and forth.
Look Israel Special place. I was over in December. It's
one of the most incredible trips I have ever taken.
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I felt incredibly fortunate to be able to spend a week.
They are going all the way to the north near Lebanon,
all by the all alongside the Gaza strip. We went
all over the place and I saw firsthand the work
that the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does. They
helped to protect people in danger. They build bomb shelters,
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they helped to put together food packs. We worked to
help get different food packs out for those in need.
They do incredible work and for just twenty five bucks,
you can provide a food box. We helped to seal
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meals for an entire year. Incredible the work that they do.
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