May 13, 2025 • 51 mins
A Clay and Buck "See, I Told You So."
The hosts discuss President Donald Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia, highlighting his efforts to secure a trillion-dollar Gulf investment in the U.S. economy. They also touch on positive economic indicators, including a drop in inflation to 2.3%, and call for the Federal Reserve to initiate interest rate cuts.
"We Called It" is a Clay and Buck "See, I Told You So." A major segment of the hour is dedicated to the explosive revelations from an upcoming book by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, which alleges that President Biden’s physical and cognitive decline was so severe that aides considered he might need a wheelchair post-election. Clay and Buck argue that legacy media outlets like CNN and NBC knowingly misled the public about Biden’s condition to protect his candidacy and defeat Trump. They assert that this media cover-up is part of a broader pattern of misinformation, comparing it to the media’s handling of COVID-19 and the Russia collusion narrative.
The hosts also criticize the mainstream media’s sudden shift in tone, suggesting that journalists are now attempting to rehabilitate their credibility by admitting Biden’s decline only after the election. They play a montage of past clips from CNN’s Jake Tapper, illustrating what they describe as a stark contrast between his previous defenses of Biden and his current reporting.
Clay and Buck further explore the political implications of Biden’s withdrawal from the race, the Democratic Party’s internal struggles, and Vice President Kamala Harris’s perceived weaknesses as a candidate. They speculate on the strategic missteps that led to Biden participating in the June 27th debate, which they believe was a turning point in the election cycle.
Trump in Saudi Arabia
President Trump’s high-profile visit to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where he announced a historic $600 billion investment deal aimed at strengthening U.S.-Middle East relations. Trump’s speech emphasized peace, innovation, and a firm stance against a nuclear-armed Iran, reinforcing his administration’s commitment to global stability and economic diplomacy.
South African Refugees
A discussion centered on immigration, race politics, and media hypocrisy, with a spotlight on the controversy surrounding President Donald Trump’s decision to welcome approximately 50 white South African migrants into the United States. This hour dives deep into the cultural and political backlash from the left, exposing what the hosts describe as the Democratic Party’s selective outrage and racial double standards.
Clay and Buck begin by highlighting the stark contrast between the left’s outrage over a small group of legal, white South African immigrants and their years-long support for millions of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border. They argue that the backlash reveals a deeper issue within the Democratic Party—what they call an entrenched anti-white sentiment and a fractured identity politics coalition that is increasingly alienating working-class and minority voters.
The hosts explore the deteriorating conditions in South Africa, including racially motivated land seizures, violence against white farmers, and political rhetoric from South African leaders that openly threatens the white minority. They play clips from South African political figures and U.S. media pundits, including a controversial MSNBC segment defending land redistribution and CNN commentary suggesting white South Africans should “go back to Germany or Holland.” Clay and Buck challenge this logic, questioning how long someone must live in a country to be considered native and drawing parallels to American immigration debates.
The conversation expands into a broader critique of the left’s immigration policies, arguing for a merit-b
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I was just listening
to Trump speaking in Saudi Arabia, taking something of a
victory lap already on what's going on with the trade deals,
and he's trying to get a trillion dollars of golf
investment into the United States. And we'll bring you some
(00:22):
of those highlights. Also, the market looking pretty good these days,
and we got inflation number low. Trump actually said, Clay,
you'd be proud just like you. It's like I told
you to buy about a month ago. I told you
to buy. It was a good time. It turns out
he got a lot of heat for that then, but
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it was a good time to buy. Inflation has fallen
to two point three percent, which is even lower than expected.
But when is the rate cut going to happen? It's
time for a rate cut, everybody. What's going on with Jerome?
Too slow Jerome or whatever he calls him, you know,
too late Jerome. He needs to get this thing going
in a big way. We've also got some crazy details
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coming in about the Newark air traffic crisis that from
the Newark Airport it's just indicative of how much we
need to fix some things in this country. Now. I
know Secretary Duffy is on it. We've talked to his office.
He'll be joining us when he can. But it's a
little bit of an all hands on deck situation over
there right now for US Transportation Administration. So we'll we'll
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dive into that later later on the program will have
Secretary Duffy. I don't know this week, next week, sometime soon,
but Clay amidst the the the victory lap going on
with Trump and the Middle East deals that are underway,
the deal making that this president is known for. There
is a lot of attention now on the details that
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are coming out. As we said, we've been preparing you
for this for a while, details that are coming out
about just how much of a mental and physical wreck,
just how debilitated was Joe Biden while he was president,
and while they were telling us that he was great,
(02:11):
not that he was kind of okay, but that he was,
you know, fit as a fiddle, sharpest he'd ever been
Sharpes's attack all of that stuff. Clay, We're going to
get into this and for those who are going to
say to us I'm just gonna get ahead of this, Clay,
because you know we're going to get these calls. Why
are you guys talking about this last election? It is
because the media that is Democrat, the media that lied
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about Russia collusion and COVID and all this stuff. They
are flat on their asses right now and this is
their this is their effort to rehabilitate their image, to
regain trust, to regain power, to stop the Trump agenda.
So it's not old news that nobody should care about.
It's we can't let them get away with the lie
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because they're doing this for a reason. Why is there
such a focus on this? Okay, And we'll get into
some of that. And we've got a great Jake Tapper, Montage.
Clay and I are probably gonna argue over whether we
should actually have Tapper on the show or not. I'm
now after today, I'm just like I can't. I just
gonna know. I'm just gonna be like, dude, you're just
You're just a liar and a scumbag and this is gross.
But okay, maybe we have mom. We'll get to that later.
(03:21):
Here's here's where we are, Clay. They're saying now that
Biden's physical deterioration. Physical deterioration was so severe. This is
from the Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson book, which is
out next week. Physical deteriorations so severe that they discussed
among his senior advisors that he would need to be
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wheelchair bound after the election, that he would, you know,
need to be wheelchair bound. And this is amazing, Meet Clay,
because we have audio of me back in twenty twenty
two that they would put them out on stage in
a wheelchair if they had to, and that that's how
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invested in Biden they are. And maybe I'll play that
audi you later, but can we I just I want
your take on this because I want everyone they're doing
this for a reason. They're lying again. They were not fooled.
The story is now Biden's advisors fooled us. We had
no idea. I don't think they're going to be able
(04:24):
to pull this off. I actually think they're running into
the wood chipper once again. Yeah, we told you that
this was all going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
As soon as the election was over, the truth would
be told. And I think this is the death knell
in legacy media because COVID started this and Trump in
twenty sixteen with the concept of fake news, but to
argue that Joe Biden was fit as a fiddle, as
CNN did two days before the June twenty seventh presidential debate,
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to argue as NBC News did about two weeks but
for the presidential debate, that I in particular was engaged
in misinformation and disinformation for sharing videos that showed Biden
was not mentally and physically up to the job at
the G seven. For them to then have all of
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this arise and for their defense to be well, there
was no way we could have known. I think is
lighting whatever tiny ounce of credibility these legacy media institutions
had on fire. And I will point out one very
significant aspect. Have you noticed, Buck, that the concept of
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misinformation and disinformation has virtually vanished. Fact checking so far,
to a large extent, has vanished too. I think that
the legacy media has lost the legitimacy to be considered
umpires anymore. It's almost like everybody has just decided we'll
call the game ourselves. Remember when you were a kid
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and you played kickball, and you didn't have an umpire,
and if you had a really tough call. What would
you do? Both sides would just say do over. We
don't know exactly what happened, We'll do it over. I
feel like most people in America now have said, I'm
going to trust my own eyes. I don't need someone
to be trying to demonstrate or tell me what is
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going on in the larger world. There's plenty of sources
to seek out, and the legacy media is the most
dishonest group of people that are Democrat propagandists.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Here is a way that I would put it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
If Trump had had the mental and physical deterioration that
Biden had, how would they have covered Trump? And you
got some minor idea. Remember how they covered Trump when
he slowly walked down the stairway. I guess it was
kind of a runway a little bit at West Point
when it was wet, and they were saying, oh, my goodness,
(06:55):
this guy doesn't have the mental or physical capability. You
remember that story or the challenges associated with the way
that they covered it. They would have had every single
detail on Trump's health dead to right. They would have
obsessively covered any attempt to argue that he was the
best version of himself.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's actually substantially work and what you're saying is all true,
but I think it's substantially worse than that, Clay when
you add into it. They talked about the twenty fifth
Amendment for Trump all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, there were, there were. They don't talk about it
at all now though, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right, right, But they talked about it all the time
when Trump was president's first term, Clay, they had psychiatrists
showing up on CNN who were you know, because they
were told to by their puppet masters, claiming that you know,
Trump had some tick or because he said something that
was off whatever it is, that he actually had some
(07:52):
form of like a brain degeneration. I mean, yeah, they
were they were absence, So so your point, yeah, they
would have covered it differently well with Trump. They just
lied about him having dementia. So they lied about Trump
having dementia, and then they lied about Biden not having dementia.
And I actually am gonna because you know, this is
also me getting to get a little bit of my
(08:13):
swagger back. After losing the steak bet to Clay, the
big stake bet that we had over whether they would
keep Biden in the whole point is they wanted to
keep Biden in and the story, the narrative that they're
now peddling that it is here. This is the quote
that's getting a lot of attention right now, is trying
to defeat Donald Trump in one hundred and seventy days
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was a bleeping nightmare. This is from David Pluff in
the book It's All Biden. He totally bleeped us. This
is a lie. They all went along with it because
Kamala is an imbecile and they only put her in
the vice president slot because of DEEI, because she's a
black woman. That is the only reason she was chosen
to be at the bottom of that ticket. They knew
she couldn't win the general election on her own, and
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they thought they could keep lying about Joe Biden as
long or as long as they could, or as long
as they would need to to get him, and then
it was going to be Kamala was president, you know,
within the first few months of twenty twenty five. That
was the whole game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, and I still say I I the story that
has not been told that I still want told buck
is why did they debate on June twenty seventh that
is the number one question that I had.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think it happened to be for camp. I agree
that is the thing that actually, if somebody can get
me insight into, I agree that would be really noteworth like,
that would be very interesting. But I think in a
year of the grossest political miscalculations, or an election with
the grossest political miscalculations of our lifetime, raid mar A Lago,
bring four criminal indictments, he'll never be able to win.
(09:44):
Then think of the things that they did all backfired
when they raided mar A Lago, the Republican primary was over,
Trump was the nominee. They brought four criminals.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They actually convicted him in New York, Yes, felon thirty
thirty four felonies.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They convicted him of thirty four felonies, and were I'm
too scared to do a damn thing about it, Clay.
Now they're trying to play this game of oh we
didn't know, or oh it was hidden from us. They're
all liars. There's all I and here here's we'll provide you.
By the way, I know you want to tea up.
We have all Tapper Montage. Oh yeah, does is he
gonna want to come on even after we play this montage.
(10:20):
I don't know, because it's not He's not gonna be
able to play his usual games here. But okay, hold on,
I don't know, the audience doesn't really want them on.
We'll talk about that later, but here you go, Clay.
In April of we just got the revelation today about
the wheelchair. Okay, yes, the aides were told, Hey, I
think Biden's gonna have to be in a wheelchair. And
this is you know, in the last year. Here's me
(10:42):
on this show April of twenty twenty two, three years ago.
Play it. Do you think that if this got to
a point and to be very clear, I wish this
on literally no one, certainly including Joe Joe Biden, But
if his health deterior to the point where he had
to be moved around in a wheelchair and aids had
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to largely speak for him, do you think the New
York Times would say, Joe Biden still a steady hand
on the eccon. I wonder how far they're willing to
keep the charade going. Honestly, I mean, look at what
they've done with COVID, look at the madness that they're
willing to embrace for ideological and partisan ends. I'm not
even sure what it would take for them to admit.
I mean, I'm wondering what is the outer limit of
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their willingness to prop up Joe Biden, who is clearly
not a responsible choice for president of the United States
right now. I think there'd be a lot of people
would say, Joe still, you know, he's still all there.
He has to have sake, you know, talk for him,
and they wheel him around, And I think that that's
where we are. I think there are a lot of
people that would do that. Am I a profit, Clay
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that you and be talking three years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You would really have been a profit if you had
recognized that he wasn't gonna be the nominee, because then
you wouldn't have to pay for a stake back if
you just followed the natural logic of your wheelchair analogy there.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I do think that this.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Is a aquarion call for the necessity of new media outlets,
because if you're out there and you're wondering, they're obsessively
in the White House. We talked about this for years.
I do think that one reason this show has grown
an audience is We've been proven to have been right
(12:23):
about the biggest issues. I'm not saying we get everything perfect.
We were wrong on twenty twenty two Red Wave. I
was in particular, I thought we would get it.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We got it in twenty twenty four instead. But if
you go back and look over the last four years
that we've been talking to everybody on the really big issues,
does the COVID shot work? Do masks need to be
worn by two year olds? Does it is Joe Biden
in good mental and physical health? Is Trump up to
the job of being president? Two point zero? We've gotten
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almost all those really big issues right. And I do
think that media audiences are in many ways a weying
of legitimacy, and Fox News has soared, We've swored, and
all these other organizations are paying the price for ying
to their base.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, well, I think that for one thing, it should
matter that we're right. But also another test here in
all of this is these people who are now coming
forward to report on what they should have been reporting
on a year ago at a bare minimum, a year
ago at a bare minimum right, meaning that this is
in enough time that they could have had more of
a real Clay, why weren't they reporting on it last
(13:35):
May because they were all in on it, being Biden.
I know that Biden ended up being pushed Biden. They
they took it up the middle of the football field
with Biden to the to the goal line, and then
they decided they were gonna just you know, go for
it one last time. They got so close and he
fumbled it, and they all were in on this plan.
(13:55):
They were all a part of this. That's right. I'm
going sports analogies, and this is important for everyone to remember.
They were not duped. They were in on the lie.
And now they want to try to regain credibility so
they can then turn around and attack Trump with greater efficacy.
They want to be able to tear him down by
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being we're the journalists, we just and we're not letting
it happen. And that's why this matters. That's why this
is us telling everybody through. But yeah, I was saying, Clay,
the point that I was making in twenty twenty two,
I think that they would say he's fine, even if
they had to put him out in a wheelchair. It
did get to that point, Yes, that is what happened.
But then the debate, the only the debate. That's that's
(14:39):
the story, right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Why did they do debate in June twenty seven because
they could have continued with your whe Who ordered the
code read on Biden? Like, why did they do that?
I think they thought he could get through it. I
don't think they thought it would end at Clay makes
no sense. I think they actually had convinced themselves we'll
just push through this one more time then we're done.
(15:01):
I think that's what again, that is the reporting. Maybe
it's in this book, but that I would say, again,
we got to go to break here, but Buck, the
real question to me that needs to be told is
who got that debate on the schedule, because if they
had just waited until September, he would have been the
nominee to do debates.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And then they should have just skipped the debate altogether.
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Speaker 2 (16:23):
Trump has landed, Oh my goodness, we have a baby.
Buck has got his baby boy just sat down and
said hi for just a second on the video feed
of Clay and Buck, and he is coming up on
basically a month old. I think right now if I'm
remembering the math correctly, which is very exciting.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I never thought I would really have to this way, Clay,
but in the middle of radio show breaks, Now I've
got to change diapers. But I'm getting pretty good at it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, well that is a that's a skill set. Just
wait till you start having the diaper change. And then
I was you know, it's funny, I flew. I was
in Chicago over the weekend. University of Chicago had a
panel discussion on the First Amendment censorship, lots of fun
Jonathan Turley was on it, among others. And I was
on my way back and in the airport bathroom there
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was a guy traveling there from Portland with his little girl.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She was like two years old. They had just landed.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
They were going to the bathroom and everything else, and
you know, they are washing my hands at the sink
and he's like, hey, you know, like I listened to
the show. We talked about him living in Portland, but
he was traveling with his two year old, and I
was like, well, how's it going. It's like, that's a
long flight Portland to Chicago with a lap child. And
it was reminding me you got this to look forward to,
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because I told him over the weekend that this conversation
all three of my kids when they were in that
lap travel child age. So if you're under two, basically
you can travel many of you know, in the lap
of your parent. All three of them different time threw
up on me in the air on airplanes, all three
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of them at three different times, all while being lap
of babies, just absolute just unloaded on me. And I
just remember all those times. You know, you're just sitting
there just I mean, this is going to inevitably happen
to you at some point. I feel like it's happened
to every parent. So you're in the diaper changing at
some point, you'll be in the midst of a diaper
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change when you have the blow up happened, right.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh, I've already I've already gotten hit with the sprinkler
system a few times.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You've gotten hit by the sprinkler. Yeah, that's the thing
is it's kind of impressive, even at a young age.
How far the.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, it's like the old Super Circle commercial. Yeah, back
in the day. It is.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It is kind of extraordinary, even with babies, how far
that that stuff could hit, uh, the splash pad zone.
But I was bringing us in here. Trump has landed
in Saudi Arabia and he took off yesterday during the show.
I think it's an eleven or twelve hour flight to
Saudi Arabia. They've already be been doing a bunch of
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events in Saudi Arabia, and I just wanted to familiarize
you guys with what's going on, including Saudi Arabia announcing
that they will be investing somewhere around six hundred billion
dollars in America. And I believe we have multiple different
cuts here. Let's go with cut thirty two. I think
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this just happened in the last hour or so in
the Middle East. This is Trump in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Before our eyes.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
A new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts
of tired divisions of the past and forging a future
where the Middle East is defined by commerce not chaos,
where it exports technology not terrorism, and where people of
different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, not
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bombing each other out of existence.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
We don't want that.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
This is why again, there are many reasons that the
attacks on Trump have fallen flat. But I like this
cut thirty four that we have too talking about. After
so many decades of conflict, Trump basically is just trying
to avoid there being any more conflict, which I would
think most people would have to agree is a good thing.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Cut thirty four, after so many decades of conflict. Finally,
it is within our grasp to reach the future that
generations before us could only dream about, a land of peace, safety, harmony, opportunity, innovation,
and achievement right here in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, and one more thing, Buck, that is probably the
most significant decision that has to be made in the
Middle East and maybe in all of geopolitical decision making
for Trump going forward. What are we going to do
about Iran? And how do we handle keeping them ideally
from getting a nuclear weapon? Cut thirty five. Trump just
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talked about it in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
But with that set can have a much brighter future,
but will never allow America and its allies to be
threatened with terrorism or nuclear attack.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
The choices theirs to make. We really want them to
be a successful country. We want them to be a wonderful, safe,
great country, but they cannot have a nuclear weapon. This
is an offer that will not last forever. The time
is right now for them to choose. Right now, we
don't have a lot of time to wait.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, so that is going on? Buck?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Can you believe this? There is more news about Biden's
dementia breaking.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Have you seen this yet?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Axios is reporting that Joe Biden didn't recognize George Clooney
at the June twenty twenty four fundraiser that Clooney hosted
in LA despite the two having known each other for
fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, are we supposed to be though?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, of course, but this is I do think it
explains why George Clooney wrote that op ed. But what
he should have done is wrote the op ed and
says said that Joe Biden did not know who I was,
he cannot be president, and.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He refused to burn the ships. In fact, Cortes scutt
Old didn't burn the ships, but that's a whole other conversation.
He refused to go all in because he knew that
there was a chance it would fail, and then he
would have completely destroyed Biden's chance if he stayed in.
So instead he pushed that op ed and didn't tell
the most That should have been the first line. If
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that was the first line of Biden's op ed, I'm
sorry of Clooney's op ed about Biden, there would have
been no choice but to have an immediate, you know,
meeting and basically say, look, we're gonna have the twenty
fifth Amendment. Going what, Sorry, I'm just laughing the quotes
from the book You Know George, An aide told Biden
when he met Clooney at the fundraiser. The aide said,
(23:01):
oh yeah, Biden said, per the book, Hi, George Clooney
was shaken to his core. The President hadn't recognized him,
a man he had known for years. Uh again, I
just Clooney wrote and said, we need a new nominee.
(23:22):
He didn't say, I've known this guy for fifteen years
and his.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Brain is so deteriorated that he had no idea who
we are. And look, I'm not trying to like blow
up George Clooney here, but you and I would freaking
know George Clooney if we saw him, right, and we've
never met him in our entire life, because he is
a famous movie star, just like I would know Julia
Roberts if I saw her.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Here's here's also, though, what we cannot lose sight of
as we're seeing these revelations. He shouldn't have been allowed
to finish out his presidency. I know they'll say, oh,
it was fine, and you know there was no no,
he was not of sound mind. They should have said
you resign or we're using the twenty fifth Amendment. They
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should have said you're out, because what if we get
hit with a first strike from an You know, I'm
sorry this the whole thing was a total sham and
we cannot let this go.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Let me also point this out, buck, If George Clooney
is saying Biden didn't recognize me, are you really telling
me that all the high end Hollywood people didn't hear
that George Clooney story. You know, for everybody out there
that is claiming, how could we have known when George
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Clooney isn't recognized by Biden in June of twenty twenty four, Okay,
everybody who's at a high level in Hollywood hears that
story and is aware of it, and it didn't go public.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Wow, here's what I think happened. And again, whatever they're
telling you in this book is for a reason, and
it's not to tell you the truth. Trying to manipulate
public opinion around this issue. Okay, these are partisans writing
the book. They are partisans pushing this narrative. Clay, You've
always asked who ordered the code read who was the
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one who finally pushed him out? How did that conversation go?
I think I had said initially when we had these discussions,
Pelosi probably sat down with them and said, you know,
your family will be forever exiled from the Democrat elite.
No cushy gigs for you know, your grandchildren. No waved
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into Brown and Harvard and whatever, even if they're total
ne'er dowell idiots yep, which is classic for all these
Democrat politicians. Kids. They you know, they just wave in
these kids that are can barely spell. I think also
she might have said, the cloning story goes public, if
you don't step down now, that would be a total
(25:55):
that's a mutually assured destruction moment, because that's saying we're
gonna give Trump the election. But if you're Joe Biden,
then you know it's all it's all over for you
right then, you know, And by the way that story
goes public, I don't think he's allowed to finish out
his term. So that's the leverage that they may have
had to get him to finally, Clay, he didn't want
to go on you last? How How long did he last?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Three weeks after the debate? How long three weeks after
the debate?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Are week? Twenty three weeks after that debate? He hung
in there? He didn't want to go. Yeah, how'd they
get him to go? I think they said, you either
step aside or rather you either you know, step aside
for the election and we'll let you finish your term,
or we blow this whole thing up twenty fifth Amendment,
Kamala becomes a president anyway, and you're done.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's what somebody go back and pull this what you
just laid out is my theory for how they got
Biden out. I think they threatened him with the twenty
fifth Amendment. It hasn't come public yet, but I think
they said, you're not able to do the job. We
are going to blow you up. Your option is you
have to withdraw.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And remember also look at how craven that is. Because
the twenty fifth Amendment, Clay, if they were willing to
threaten to use it, it means that they should have
used it. Totally.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I agree with you, but think about it's fun for
me take a step back and think about how history
will cover this, because we're living in the moment and
sometimes stories can come and they can go. This story,
I think, is going to echo for generations. Think about
what happened, what we all experienced. Buck June twenty seventh,
the debate where Biden just comes out and is basically
(27:34):
a catatonic zombie that immediately calls begin to replace Biden.
July thirteenth, Trump gets hit in the ear by an
assassin bullet. July twenty one, Biden drops out. How many
more consequential three plus week periods in American presidential politics
(27:56):
have we ever seen in our lives? Think about those
three dates, Buck, June twenty Biden Trump debate. Biden is
basically a zombie. July thirteenth, the guy that we still
know nothing about. Might I mention the guy in Butler,
Pennsylvania that is basically a ghost.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We don't know anything about him. He doesn't have any
background they have.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
He clips Trump's ear and almost blows his head off
on television the day before the RNC starts. July twenty one,
Biden drops out all three of those boom boom boom
historically resident in a way that rarely happens. I'm telling you,
long after we are all dead, everybody listening to this
(28:38):
right now is gone. They will be writing books about
this twenty twenty four campaign, which people one hundred years
from now are gonna be like, there's no way all
this actually happened.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
This is the craziest election. Is there a crazier election?
I don't know that there's a crazier I mean you'd
have to go with like Civil War error seen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I mean I think you'd have to go to like
eighteen sixty or eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I really do. But I mean definitely twenty first century
or twenty yeah, twenty first century, twentieth century, no question.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The wives of anybody living right now, maybe maybe the
election in forty four that happened during World War Two,
if some of you were old enough to have remembered that,
when Roosevelt they covered up his mental and physical deterioration.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, but they were success four. Yeah, they were successful though. Right,
That's the thing. And this is the other crazy thing
to keep in mind, everybody. If Biden doesn't go to
that debate, that's why I say they do. We need
to know. But they got desperate because Biden was sliding
so much in the polls against Trump, they thought he
(29:43):
could pull it off. They took the gamble. The gamble was,
he just has to look like his eyes are open,
and they got to inject him with whatever they got
to do for the night, and then we're then we
can turn this thing around. Right then the media will
help us carry this home. If he he had just
not done that debate, he would have been the nominee.
(30:04):
And you know, on any given Sunday Man, I mean,
who knows, right. I think Trump still wins that, but
it's he would have been the nominee.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think what happened Buck is the Grand Poobahs went
to Biden. They said, the stories coming out about Biden's
mental and physical condition are bad. You have to prove
that he has the wherewithal debate early. I think at
some point we're going to find out that they put
the pressure on Team Biden to prove that he was
up to the job, and they didn't want it out publicly.
(30:35):
But June twenty seventh was Biden just like the state
of the Union. Remember they he actually think the union.
I think you may be right. I think that the
reason though that this I think the concern came from
he was already losing, and he was an incumbent president,
and he was already losing to Trump, so there was
a desperation. They forced him. Somebody who is in power
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And we told you yesterday about this story. I wanted
to follow up on it. You have about fifty fifty
(32:56):
or so South African africannor migrants who have been welcomed
into America my President Trumpet the administration. This is not
even a busy hour under the Biden border in one
sector of the border in terms of migrants, and those
(33:17):
were illegals. These are of course legal migrants who are
entering the country at our request, with our permission, as
they are supposed to. But Clay, we now have to
address something and it is not something that I ever
thought would would come up in quite this way. The
Democrats are just furious about America's warm embrace of African
(33:43):
migrants into our great nation. They all of a sudden
have a problem with I thought we were a nation
of immigrants. I thought that everything was supposed to be
this way, where we just bring in people from wherever.
Or in fact, they thought it was supposed to be
that people could just choose to come, they could break
our laws, they could just show up. We all know
(34:06):
what's going on here. And it's very interesting because they're
quite upset by the situation. And it's because I think
it shows a lot of the rot, the moral and
intellectual rot that has completely overtaken the Democrat Party and
the left, and specifically on issues relating to not just
(34:26):
immigration but race. And this is shown by the fact
that they are so upset over fifty white migrants showing
up from South Africa. And the reason is that they're
showing up because the government of South Africa, which is
now is black. I mean everyone who runs the country
(34:48):
essentially is black, is being racist to their white minority.
And this is something that's very hard for the Democrat
mind to accept or comprehend. How is it possible we
have trained and told everybody for so many years, Clay
that white people are the bad people whenever it comes
to race relations, that any injustice that occurs in the
(35:10):
realm of race must be white people doing it to
somebody else. And this is where this whole thing has
turned into something of a farce because Democrats suddenly find
themselves upset about the Scott Jennings, who does, as we know,
great work on CNN. He pointed this out last night
on CNN when they had a panel on this This
(35:31):
is cut nineteen listen in.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I do think it's not alleged discrimination that these people
are facing in South Africa. I mean the law there
absolutely allows their property to be confiscated. They are subject
to racial discriminations, some have been subject to violence from
some reports that I have read.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, we're talking about.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Fifty something people, and the people who seem to be
angriest about this today had no problem with twenty million
coming here, some of the worst people in the world
coming here, including gang members and so on and so forth.
So I don't have a lot of sympathy for the
folks who are outraged today after what happened to this
country over the last several years, over fifty something people
who are clearly being discriminated against in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Claiming if you asked the average MSNBC guest or CNN host,
who would you rather have here an a legal MS
thirteen gang member or a legal immigrant from South Africa
fleeing oppression who happens to be white. I think we
all know the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, it's not a difficult call. And to me, this
is emblematic of one of the major structural issues that
the Democrat Party has. They're racist against white people now
as a huge part of their base. They're also anti
Semitic as a huge part of their base, and this
identity politics coalition that we all were told they had
(36:53):
built during Obama's presidency. You talked about how Obama did
not have any sort of substantial sort of a glow.
He didn't have any ability to transcend or bring his
popularity to other people. Right, his coattails did not actually
drag very many other people into office. In fact, the
(37:14):
reality was things went worse for Democrats. But look at
what they've done since. Because this is the natural result
of this. They ran Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, and
what did they argue? It's her time, It's time for
a woman to be president. They tried to identity politics
coalition Hillary into the White House. Then they actually went
(37:36):
back completely on it and went with Joe Biden, the oldest, whitest,
as we just said, least mentally and physically competent president
that we've probably ever had in any of our lives.
And they dragged him across the finish line because buck
I think they got lucky with COVID happening, which allowed
them to hide him in the basement. Otherwise Trump would
have won comfortably in twenty twenty and then in twenty
(37:57):
twenty four, what did they do? They went back to
the identity Poul coalition, and they got stamped and they
cannot escape it. Now they have unleashed the crazy inside
of their party, and the crazy is of the opinion
that white men were and are the root evil of society.
(38:18):
And then of course it's expanded to Hispanic men and
Asian men and black men because all of masculinity is
now toxic and they do not have anyone.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They don't have anyone.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is where I come back to again. Who is
a normal dude in the Democrat Party? Who is just
a guy that you would like to have a beer with,
that has in any way a prominent voice in the
Democrat Party. To me, this is all connected to the
problem they had. They recognized the issue, they tried to
bring in a guy like Tim Walls, but they are
(38:50):
hemorrhaging support from normal men all over the country. And
I think a lot of normal women have followed them too.
But this is profoundly a rebel from the Democrat Party
being led by men such that, remember Buck, they had
Obama try to lecture black men for not showing up
and supporting Kamala Enough. Remember that, right in the tail
(39:11):
end of the campaign, they had Obama Their big strategy
on how to turn out black men was to have
Obama tell all black men out there, hey, you're being
a little bit sexist because you're not supporting you're not
supporting Kamala enough. All of this, I think is blowing
up in their faces. And I think when you see
a story like this out of South Africa, it is evidence.
(39:34):
And I sent to Greg we'll see when this clip
comes in. But on interviews, leaders in South Africa are
basically saying, Hey, we need to kill more white people
in the country.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, you're talking. There's a song that goes back to
the days of apartheid, and it was it's they talk
about killing the boar, which is a reference to the
Dutch ancestry africaner farmers. Uh. And look, there was a
repulsive and immoral system of apartheid in South Africa, and
(40:07):
when it was then removed, they unfortunately replaced it with
something that it could have been a rule of law.
Everyone has treated equal democracy, but what they replaced it
with was a racial entitlement state. So certainly not as
bad as apartheid was, but still bad. I mean, they
(40:28):
still got bigger. You know, you still have rules that
disenfranchise the seven percent. You know, it's a small, pretty
small minority of the country, but the seven percent of
the country that is white explicitly so. And the country
is having huge problems. I mean, if you look at
the economy, crime, I mean, all of the issues of
(40:48):
governance for certainly the last thirty years or so that
you could measure in South Africa, it the place is
a mess. And they've got rolling blackouts. They literally can't
keep the lights on in this country. And this was
not something that had existed previously. So they've got a
lot of challenges, a lot of problems. But bringing it
back here for a second, why you know, first of all,
(41:12):
as you've pointed out, you know, Disney like freaks out
and doesn't want to have the baseball game in Georgia
or something. What was it again, I know, over.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The Atlanta over the new Georgia voting bill, which actually
has increased the number of people that are out in
their vote. But yeah, they pulled the All Star Game
out of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
So so the hint of the smallest injustice in this
country that you know affects people that the left cares
about is a national crisis, but an open policy of
racial discrimination, which is what it is in South Africa.
We should be opposed in principle because it is based
in principle against racial discrimination anywhere in any form. We
(41:52):
just had to have a reckoning with this in our
own country where the affirmative action policies that had been
in place were racist, They were wrong, they were unconstitutional.
Supreme Court finally has started to write that right, that
wrong and clay the Democrats, though they're so up. I
actually watched this MSNBC panel this morning on this here
(42:14):
is this is twenty one. They're angry that we took
fifty South African migrants. They really this is a big
problem for them. Plaint twenty one.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
So deeply and morally wrongheaded and repulsive. These are the
descendants of the people who created the most diabolical system
of white supremacy in human history, apartheid. This is a
modern replacement there in a country where, by the way,
white people make up seven percent of the population and
own seventy eight percent of the farmland. So actually there's
(42:45):
no injustice here. It's taking places away from refugees. We're
really being crushed by authoritarian governments. And for these folks
who have never had anything happen to them, and Trump
amazingly called it a genocide, one of the worst lies
I've ever heard him say. There's just been a small
handful of farmers that have been killed over the past
ten years. No land has actually been expropriated. It's just
(43:06):
a forest and a sham and a moral ugliness.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's not a small handful of people that have been killed.
Start with that, okay, but beyond that, clay, So what
do they want to have happened here? Because what they
did in Zimbabwe, and this is why I brought it
up yesterday, was land expropriation. It was okay, too many
white people here own land. We're taking it and we're
giving it. And that's why I brought up that documentary,
Mugabe and the White African and we're giving it to
(43:32):
the people. You know what happened the country started to
basically starve. I don't think they really want to go
down that route in South Africa. But they don't want
to say that because they don't want to actually have
to face the realities of the system that they are
presiding over.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Listen to this. This is from June of twenty eighteen,
but I wanted to play it. This is Julius Malema.
He's a leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters. In an interview,
he says, we're not calling right now for the killing
of white people. This is the kind of environment that exists.
This is a media interview, cut thirty seven.
Speaker 10 (44:07):
I don't know what's going to OpenD in the future.
I'm saying to you with not called for the killing
of white people, at least for now, I can't guarantee
the future. Yeah, but I mean you'd understand somebody watching that, especially.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
As it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. It
sounds like a genocidal.
Speaker 10 (44:24):
Ah, babies can baby.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I'm not calling for the white people, at least for now.
Speaker 10 (44:29):
I can't give a gun to you of the fusion,
especially when things are going the way they are subtext especially,
I think if things are going the way they are,
there will be a revolution in this country.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I can tell you now, I'm not calling for the
execution of white people right now.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
And he doubles downward. He's very clear. He's like, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. He's like, don't be a bit
as that's what I'm saying. Not misspeaking. If you have
an issue with that. You're a cry baby, that is.
And then there's also the the singing. I meant to
get to this, but I got diverted. The singing of
the song shoot the Boar, you know, shoot the Farmer,
which has been there's video of that which is circulated
from I mean, it's a stadium full of people. It's like,
(45:07):
let's say, I don't know, forty thousand people or something,
we're all singing shoot the white people. And this is
from the head of a political party, right, So you know,
if the head of the libertarian party in this country
was I'm just picking a random party, but you know,
if the head of any party in this country was
having rallies where they're saying we're not calling for the
execution of our fellow citizens yet, or cheering and chanting
(45:29):
about it, I think people would have a problem with that.
But you see, Democrats always have to pretend, they have
to pretend to be the heroes and the civil rights
struggles that they had nothing to do with. And so
whenever you bring up South Africa, all they want to
talk about is South Africa from forty to fifty sixty
years ago. Yeah, they don't want to talk about South
Africa today, which is the problem, no doubt.
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. All right, So Buck,
CNN last night, I think you'd mentioned this a little bit.
Scott Jennings got into it with some of the panelists
on the CNN primetime show, The Abby Phillips Show, and
I want you to listen to how crazy The answer
(47:28):
is here from this woman who's debating. Will figure out
her name in a sec. But she says, well, if
they're not happy in South Africa, they should just go
back to the country that they came from hundreds of
years ago. Because I think this gets into a really
interesting question. At what point are you a native of
where you actually live? I would argue it's way less
(47:49):
than hundreds of years ago. But listen to this discussion.
She says, if they're not happy, they should just go
back to Germany or Holland or wherever.
Speaker 11 (47:57):
Listen, thirty five thirty plus years ago, they went through
a the partheid system ended and they reformed their constitution
under the great leader of Nelson Mandela, and that allowed
for a racial reconciliation, one that this country has yet
to do.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
But South Africa did it.
Speaker 11 (48:17):
And they reform their constitution. And part of that is
that the people who are native to that land deserve
their rightful land back. That is not what the Afrikaaners
actually want to have happened, which are the white Africans
and so who are not originally from Africa who colonize
South Africa also, and so that is what they are
(48:38):
saying is discrimination. Now, if the constitution in South Africa
is discriminatory, they.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Have their checks and.
Speaker 11 (48:45):
Balances in that land just like we do, and that
is for them to So if the Afrikaaners don't actually
like the land, they can leave that country. They can
actually even go to where their native land is, which
is probably are you against and coming here, Holland, Holland,
are you against in coming here? I'm against the hypocrisy
(49:05):
of this.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
In Minutesota, I think we can have a big discussion
is how I have to be careful that to curse
sometimes and I listen to some of.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
These cliffs go back to their native land.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Like, if you say that in the United States about
somebody who's been here like ten years, you are a
crazy racist, right, go back.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
To where you came from. Yeah, minutes. If you're a
friend of Aragua gangbanger who lies to immigration authority, sneaks
into the countries, you can beat your wife in human traffic.
The Libs are like, he's as American as Thomas Jefferson,
and how wild is this?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
They want him to go back to Germany and Holland
from where they hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
There's a million ways to analyze this. Whatever it's anti
whiteness was made fashionable in the Democrat Party was mandatory
belief in the Democrat Party that people say, well, what
about all the white people vote Democrat? Yeah, they're collaborators
with the ideology. They think that they're above it and
better than the other white people that have to be
constantly maligned and undermined.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Fair question, because I do think this is interesting. How
long do you have to live somewhere to be considered
a native?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think if people have been somewhere for I'm trying
to do the math them I had three hundred and
fifty some odd years because the Dutchyst India Company landed
in South Africa. By the way they built the country too,
there was no country. Of course, there were warring African tribes.
The Zulu tribe was a conquering tribe that came one
hundred and fifty years after the Dutch arrived there. But
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Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I was just listening
to Trump speaking in Saudi Arabia, taking something of a
victory lap already on what's going on with the trade deals,
and he's trying to get a trillion dollars of golf
investment into the United States. And we'll bring you some
(00:22):
of those highlights. Also, the market looking pretty good these days,
and we got inflation number low. Trump actually said, Clay,
you'd be proud just like you. It's like I told
you to buy about a month ago. I told you
to buy. It was a good time. It turns out
he got a lot of heat for that then, but
(00:43):
it was a good time to buy. Inflation has fallen
to two point three percent, which is even lower than expected.
But when is the rate cut going to happen? It's
time for a rate cut, everybody. What's going on with Jerome?
Too slow Jerome or whatever he calls him, you know,
too late Jerome. He needs to get this thing going
in a big way. We've also got some crazy details
(01:04):
coming in about the Newark air traffic crisis that from
the Newark Airport it's just indicative of how much we
need to fix some things in this country. Now. I
know Secretary Duffy is on it. We've talked to his office.
He'll be joining us when he can. But it's a
little bit of an all hands on deck situation over
there right now for US Transportation Administration. So we'll we'll
(01:25):
dive into that later later on the program will have
Secretary Duffy. I don't know this week, next week, sometime soon,
but Clay amidst the the the victory lap going on
with Trump and the Middle East deals that are underway,
the deal making that this president is known for. There
is a lot of attention now on the details that
(01:49):
are coming out. As we said, we've been preparing you
for this for a while, details that are coming out
about just how much of a mental and physical wreck,
just how debilitated was Joe Biden while he was president,
and while they were telling us that he was great,
(02:11):
not that he was kind of okay, but that he was,
you know, fit as a fiddle, sharpest he'd ever been
Sharpes's attack all of that stuff. Clay, We're going to
get into this and for those who are going to
say to us I'm just gonna get ahead of this, Clay,
because you know we're going to get these calls. Why
are you guys talking about this last election? It is
because the media that is Democrat, the media that lied
(02:36):
about Russia collusion and COVID and all this stuff. They
are flat on their asses right now and this is
their this is their effort to rehabilitate their image, to
regain trust, to regain power, to stop the Trump agenda.
So it's not old news that nobody should care about.
It's we can't let them get away with the lie
(02:59):
because they're doing this for a reason. Why is there
such a focus on this? Okay, And we'll get into
some of that. And we've got a great Jake Tapper, Montage.
Clay and I are probably gonna argue over whether we
should actually have Tapper on the show or not. I'm
now after today, I'm just like I can't. I just
gonna know. I'm just gonna be like, dude, you're just
You're just a liar and a scumbag and this is gross.
But okay, maybe we have mom. We'll get to that later.
(03:21):
Here's here's where we are, Clay. They're saying now that
Biden's physical deterioration. Physical deterioration was so severe. This is
from the Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson book, which is
out next week. Physical deteriorations so severe that they discussed
among his senior advisors that he would need to be
(03:43):
wheelchair bound after the election, that he would, you know,
need to be wheelchair bound. And this is amazing, Meet Clay,
because we have audio of me back in twenty twenty
two that they would put them out on stage in
a wheelchair if they had to, and that that's how
(04:04):
invested in Biden they are. And maybe I'll play that
audi you later, but can we I just I want
your take on this because I want everyone they're doing
this for a reason. They're lying again. They were not fooled.
The story is now Biden's advisors fooled us. We had
no idea. I don't think they're going to be able
(04:24):
to pull this off. I actually think they're running into
the wood chipper once again. Yeah, we told you that
this was all going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
As soon as the election was over, the truth would
be told. And I think this is the death knell
in legacy media because COVID started this and Trump in
twenty sixteen with the concept of fake news, but to
argue that Joe Biden was fit as a fiddle, as
CNN did two days before the June twenty seventh presidential debate,
(04:55):
to argue as NBC News did about two weeks but
for the presidential debate, that I in particular was engaged
in misinformation and disinformation for sharing videos that showed Biden
was not mentally and physically up to the job at
the G seven. For them to then have all of
(05:16):
this arise and for their defense to be well, there
was no way we could have known. I think is
lighting whatever tiny ounce of credibility these legacy media institutions
had on fire. And I will point out one very
significant aspect. Have you noticed, Buck, that the concept of
(05:36):
misinformation and disinformation has virtually vanished. Fact checking so far,
to a large extent, has vanished too. I think that
the legacy media has lost the legitimacy to be considered
umpires anymore. It's almost like everybody has just decided we'll
call the game ourselves. Remember when you were a kid
(05:57):
and you played kickball, and you didn't have an umpire,
and if you had a really tough call. What would
you do? Both sides would just say do over. We
don't know exactly what happened, We'll do it over. I
feel like most people in America now have said, I'm
going to trust my own eyes. I don't need someone
to be trying to demonstrate or tell me what is
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going on in the larger world. There's plenty of sources
to seek out, and the legacy media is the most
dishonest group of people that are Democrat propagandists.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Here is a way that I would put it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
If Trump had had the mental and physical deterioration that
Biden had, how would they have covered Trump? And you
got some minor idea. Remember how they covered Trump when
he slowly walked down the stairway. I guess it was
kind of a runway a little bit at West Point
when it was wet, and they were saying, oh, my goodness,
(06:55):
this guy doesn't have the mental or physical capability. You
remember that story or the challenges associated with the way
that they covered it. They would have had every single
detail on Trump's health dead to right. They would have
obsessively covered any attempt to argue that he was the
best version of himself.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's actually substantially work and what you're saying is all true,
but I think it's substantially worse than that, Clay when
you add into it. They talked about the twenty fifth
Amendment for Trump all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, there were, there were. They don't talk about it
at all now though, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right, right, But they talked about it all the time
when Trump was president's first term, Clay, they had psychiatrists
showing up on CNN who were you know, because they
were told to by their puppet masters, claiming that you know,
Trump had some tick or because he said something that
was off whatever it is, that he actually had some
(07:52):
form of like a brain degeneration. I mean, yeah, they
were they were absence, So so your point, yeah, they
would have covered it differently well with Trump. They just
lied about him having dementia. So they lied about Trump
having dementia, and then they lied about Biden not having dementia.
And I actually am gonna because you know, this is
also me getting to get a little bit of my
(08:13):
swagger back. After losing the steak bet to Clay, the
big stake bet that we had over whether they would
keep Biden in the whole point is they wanted to
keep Biden in and the story, the narrative that they're
now peddling that it is here. This is the quote
that's getting a lot of attention right now, is trying
to defeat Donald Trump in one hundred and seventy days
(08:34):
was a bleeping nightmare. This is from David Pluff in
the book It's All Biden. He totally bleeped us. This
is a lie. They all went along with it because
Kamala is an imbecile and they only put her in
the vice president slot because of DEEI, because she's a
black woman. That is the only reason she was chosen
to be at the bottom of that ticket. They knew
she couldn't win the general election on her own, and
(08:56):
they thought they could keep lying about Joe Biden as
long or as long as they could, or as long
as they would need to to get him, and then
it was going to be Kamala was president, you know,
within the first few months of twenty twenty five. That
was the whole game.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, and I still say I I the story that
has not been told that I still want told buck
is why did they debate on June twenty seventh that
is the number one question that I had.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think it happened to be for camp. I agree
that is the thing that actually, if somebody can get
me insight into, I agree that would be really noteworth like,
that would be very interesting. But I think in a
year of the grossest political miscalculations, or an election with
the grossest political miscalculations of our lifetime, raid mar A Lago,
bring four criminal indictments, he'll never be able to win.
(09:44):
Then think of the things that they did all backfired
when they raided mar A Lago, the Republican primary was over,
Trump was the nominee. They brought four criminals.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They actually convicted him in New York, Yes, felon thirty
thirty four felonies.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They convicted him of thirty four felonies, and were I'm
too scared to do a damn thing about it, Clay.
Now they're trying to play this game of oh we
didn't know, or oh it was hidden from us. They're
all liars. There's all I and here here's we'll provide you.
By the way, I know you want to tea up.
We have all Tapper Montage. Oh yeah, does is he
gonna want to come on even after we play this montage.
(10:20):
I don't know, because it's not He's not gonna be
able to play his usual games here. But okay, hold on,
I don't know, the audience doesn't really want them on.
We'll talk about that later, but here you go, Clay.
In April of we just got the revelation today about
the wheelchair. Okay, yes, the aides were told, Hey, I
think Biden's gonna have to be in a wheelchair. And
this is you know, in the last year. Here's me
(10:42):
on this show April of twenty twenty two, three years ago.
Play it. Do you think that if this got to
a point and to be very clear, I wish this
on literally no one, certainly including Joe Joe Biden, But
if his health deterior to the point where he had
to be moved around in a wheelchair and aids had
(11:03):
to largely speak for him, do you think the New
York Times would say, Joe Biden still a steady hand
on the eccon. I wonder how far they're willing to
keep the charade going. Honestly, I mean, look at what
they've done with COVID, look at the madness that they're
willing to embrace for ideological and partisan ends. I'm not
even sure what it would take for them to admit.
I mean, I'm wondering what is the outer limit of
(11:24):
their willingness to prop up Joe Biden, who is clearly
not a responsible choice for president of the United States
right now. I think there'd be a lot of people
would say, Joe still, you know, he's still all there.
He has to have sake, you know, talk for him,
and they wheel him around, And I think that that's
where we are. I think there are a lot of
people that would do that. Am I a profit, Clay
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that you and be talking three years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You would really have been a profit if you had
recognized that he wasn't gonna be the nominee, because then
you wouldn't have to pay for a stake back if
you just followed the natural logic of your wheelchair analogy there.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I do think that this.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Is a aquarion call for the necessity of new media outlets,
because if you're out there and you're wondering, they're obsessively
in the White House. We talked about this for years.
I do think that one reason this show has grown
an audience is We've been proven to have been right
(12:23):
about the biggest issues. I'm not saying we get everything perfect.
We were wrong on twenty twenty two Red Wave. I
was in particular, I thought we would get it.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
We got it in twenty twenty four instead. But if
you go back and look over the last four years
that we've been talking to everybody on the really big issues,
does the COVID shot work? Do masks need to be
worn by two year olds? Does it is Joe Biden
in good mental and physical health? Is Trump up to
the job of being president? Two point zero? We've gotten
(12:55):
almost all those really big issues right. And I do
think that media audiences are in many ways a weying
of legitimacy, and Fox News has soared, We've swored, and
all these other organizations are paying the price for ying
to their base.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, well, I think that for one thing, it should
matter that we're right. But also another test here in
all of this is these people who are now coming
forward to report on what they should have been reporting
on a year ago at a bare minimum, a year
ago at a bare minimum right, meaning that this is
in enough time that they could have had more of
a real Clay, why weren't they reporting on it last
(13:35):
May because they were all in on it, being Biden.
I know that Biden ended up being pushed Biden. They
they took it up the middle of the football field
with Biden to the to the goal line, and then
they decided they were gonna just you know, go for
it one last time. They got so close and he
fumbled it, and they all were in on this plan.
(13:55):
They were all a part of this. That's right. I'm
going sports analogies, and this is important for everyone to remember.
They were not duped. They were in on the lie.
And now they want to try to regain credibility so
they can then turn around and attack Trump with greater efficacy.
They want to be able to tear him down by
(14:16):
being we're the journalists, we just and we're not letting
it happen. And that's why this matters. That's why this
is us telling everybody through. But yeah, I was saying, Clay,
the point that I was making in twenty twenty two,
I think that they would say he's fine, even if
they had to put him out in a wheelchair. It
did get to that point, Yes, that is what happened.
But then the debate, the only the debate. That's that's
(14:39):
the story, right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Why did they do debate in June twenty seven because
they could have continued with your whe Who ordered the
code read on Biden? Like, why did they do that?
I think they thought he could get through it. I
don't think they thought it would end at Clay makes
no sense. I think they actually had convinced themselves we'll
just push through this one more time then we're done.
(15:01):
I think that's what again, that is the reporting. Maybe
it's in this book, but that I would say, again,
we got to go to break here, but Buck, the
real question to me that needs to be told is
who got that debate on the schedule, because if they
had just waited until September, he would have been the
nominee to do debates.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 2 (16:23):
Trump has landed, Oh my goodness, we have a baby.
Buck has got his baby boy just sat down and
said hi for just a second on the video feed
of Clay and Buck, and he is coming up on
basically a month old. I think right now if I'm
remembering the math correctly, which is very exciting.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I never thought I would really have to this way, Clay,
but in the middle of radio show breaks, Now I've
got to change diapers. But I'm getting pretty good at it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, well that is a that's a skill set. Just
wait till you start having the diaper change. And then
I was you know, it's funny, I flew. I was
in Chicago over the weekend. University of Chicago had a
panel discussion on the First Amendment censorship, lots of fun
Jonathan Turley was on it, among others. And I was
on my way back and in the airport bathroom there
(17:14):
was a guy traveling there from Portland with his little girl.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She was like two years old. They had just landed.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
They were going to the bathroom and everything else, and
you know, they are washing my hands at the sink
and he's like, hey, you know, like I listened to
the show. We talked about him living in Portland, but
he was traveling with his two year old, and I
was like, well, how's it going. It's like, that's a
long flight Portland to Chicago with a lap child. And
it was reminding me you got this to look forward to,
(17:41):
because I told him over the weekend that this conversation
all three of my kids when they were in that
lap travel child age. So if you're under two, basically
you can travel many of you know, in the lap
of your parent. All three of them different time threw
up on me in the air on airplanes, all three
(18:05):
of them at three different times, all while being lap
of babies, just absolute just unloaded on me. And I
just remember all those times. You know, you're just sitting
there just I mean, this is going to inevitably happen
to you at some point. I feel like it's happened
to every parent. So you're in the diaper changing at
some point, you'll be in the midst of a diaper
(18:27):
change when you have the blow up happened, right.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh, I've already I've already gotten hit with the sprinkler
system a few times.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You've gotten hit by the sprinkler. Yeah, that's the thing
is it's kind of impressive, even at a young age.
How far the.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, it's like the old Super Circle commercial. Yeah, back
in the day. It is.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It is kind of extraordinary, even with babies, how far
that that stuff could hit, uh, the splash pad zone.
But I was bringing us in here. Trump has landed
in Saudi Arabia and he took off yesterday during the show.
I think it's an eleven or twelve hour flight to
Saudi Arabia. They've already be been doing a bunch of
(19:06):
events in Saudi Arabia, and I just wanted to familiarize
you guys with what's going on, including Saudi Arabia announcing
that they will be investing somewhere around six hundred billion
dollars in America. And I believe we have multiple different
cuts here. Let's go with cut thirty two. I think
(19:27):
this just happened in the last hour or so in
the Middle East. This is Trump in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Before our eyes.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
A new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts
of tired divisions of the past and forging a future
where the Middle East is defined by commerce not chaos,
where it exports technology not terrorism, and where people of
different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, not
(19:55):
bombing each other out of existence.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
We don't want that.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
This is why again, there are many reasons that the
attacks on Trump have fallen flat. But I like this
cut thirty four that we have too talking about. After
so many decades of conflict, Trump basically is just trying
to avoid there being any more conflict, which I would
think most people would have to agree is a good thing.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Cut thirty four, after so many decades of conflict. Finally,
it is within our grasp to reach the future that
generations before us could only dream about, a land of peace, safety, harmony, opportunity, innovation,
and achievement right here in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, and one more thing, Buck, that is probably the
most significant decision that has to be made in the
Middle East and maybe in all of geopolitical decision making
for Trump going forward. What are we going to do
about Iran? And how do we handle keeping them ideally
from getting a nuclear weapon? Cut thirty five. Trump just
(20:57):
talked about it in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
But with that set can have a much brighter future,
but will never allow America and its allies to be
threatened with terrorism or nuclear attack.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
The choices theirs to make. We really want them to
be a successful country. We want them to be a wonderful, safe,
great country, but they cannot have a nuclear weapon. This
is an offer that will not last forever. The time
is right now for them to choose. Right now, we
don't have a lot of time to wait.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, so that is going on? Buck?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Can you believe this? There is more news about Biden's
dementia breaking.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Have you seen this yet?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Axios is reporting that Joe Biden didn't recognize George Clooney
at the June twenty twenty four fundraiser that Clooney hosted
in LA despite the two having known each other for
fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, are we supposed to be though?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, of course, but this is I do think it
explains why George Clooney wrote that op ed. But what
he should have done is wrote the op ed and
says said that Joe Biden did not know who I was,
he cannot be president, and.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He refused to burn the ships. In fact, Cortes scutt
Old didn't burn the ships, but that's a whole other conversation.
He refused to go all in because he knew that
there was a chance it would fail, and then he
would have completely destroyed Biden's chance if he stayed in.
So instead he pushed that op ed and didn't tell
the most That should have been the first line. If
(22:36):
that was the first line of Biden's op ed, I'm
sorry of Clooney's op ed about Biden, there would have
been no choice but to have an immediate, you know,
meeting and basically say, look, we're gonna have the twenty
fifth Amendment. Going what, Sorry, I'm just laughing the quotes
from the book You Know George, An aide told Biden
when he met Clooney at the fundraiser. The aide said,
(23:01):
oh yeah, Biden said, per the book, Hi, George Clooney
was shaken to his core. The President hadn't recognized him,
a man he had known for years. Uh again, I
just Clooney wrote and said, we need a new nominee.
(23:22):
He didn't say, I've known this guy for fifteen years
and his.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Brain is so deteriorated that he had no idea who
we are. And look, I'm not trying to like blow
up George Clooney here, but you and I would freaking
know George Clooney if we saw him, right, and we've
never met him in our entire life, because he is
a famous movie star, just like I would know Julia
Roberts if I saw her.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Here's here's also, though, what we cannot lose sight of
as we're seeing these revelations. He shouldn't have been allowed
to finish out his presidency. I know they'll say, oh,
it was fine, and you know there was no no,
he was not of sound mind. They should have said
you resign or we're using the twenty fifth Amendment. They
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should have said you're out, because what if we get
hit with a first strike from an You know, I'm
sorry this the whole thing was a total sham and
we cannot let this go.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Let me also point this out, buck, If George Clooney
is saying Biden didn't recognize me, are you really telling
me that all the high end Hollywood people didn't hear
that George Clooney story. You know, for everybody out there
that is claiming, how could we have known when George
(24:39):
Clooney isn't recognized by Biden in June of twenty twenty four, Okay,
everybody who's at a high level in Hollywood hears that
story and is aware of it, and it didn't go public.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Wow, here's what I think happened. And again, whatever they're
telling you in this book is for a reason, and
it's not to tell you the truth. Trying to manipulate
public opinion around this issue. Okay, these are partisans writing
the book. They are partisans pushing this narrative. Clay, You've
always asked who ordered the code read who was the
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one who finally pushed him out? How did that conversation go?
I think I had said initially when we had these discussions,
Pelosi probably sat down with them and said, you know,
your family will be forever exiled from the Democrat elite.
No cushy gigs for you know, your grandchildren. No waved
(25:35):
into Brown and Harvard and whatever, even if they're total
ne'er dowell idiots yep, which is classic for all these
Democrat politicians. Kids. They you know, they just wave in
these kids that are can barely spell. I think also
she might have said, the cloning story goes public, if
you don't step down now, that would be a total
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that's a mutually assured destruction moment, because that's saying we're
gonna give Trump the election. But if you're Joe Biden,
then you know it's all it's all over for you
right then, you know, And by the way that story
goes public, I don't think he's allowed to finish out
his term. So that's the leverage that they may have
had to get him to finally, Clay, he didn't want
to go on you last? How How long did he last?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Three weeks after the debate? How long three weeks after
the debate?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Are week? Twenty three weeks after that debate? He hung
in there? He didn't want to go. Yeah, how'd they
get him to go? I think they said, you either
step aside or rather you either you know, step aside
for the election and we'll let you finish your term,
or we blow this whole thing up twenty fifth Amendment,
Kamala becomes a president anyway, and you're done.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's what somebody go back and pull this what you
just laid out is my theory for how they got
Biden out. I think they threatened him with the twenty
fifth Amendment. It hasn't come public yet, but I think
they said, you're not able to do the job. We
are going to blow you up. Your option is you
have to withdraw.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And remember also look at how craven that is. Because
the twenty fifth Amendment, Clay, if they were willing to
threaten to use it, it means that they should have
used it. Totally.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I agree with you, but think about it's fun for
me take a step back and think about how history
will cover this, because we're living in the moment and
sometimes stories can come and they can go. This story,
I think, is going to echo for generations. Think about
what happened, what we all experienced. Buck June twenty seventh,
the debate where Biden just comes out and is basically
(27:34):
a catatonic zombie that immediately calls begin to replace Biden.
July thirteenth, Trump gets hit in the ear by an
assassin bullet. July twenty one, Biden drops out. How many
more consequential three plus week periods in American presidential politics
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have we ever seen in our lives? Think about those
three dates, Buck, June twenty Biden Trump debate. Biden is
basically a zombie. July thirteenth, the guy that we still
know nothing about. Might I mention the guy in Butler,
Pennsylvania that is basically a ghost.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We don't know anything about him. He doesn't have any
background they have.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
He clips Trump's ear and almost blows his head off
on television the day before the RNC starts. July twenty one,
Biden drops out all three of those boom boom boom
historically resident in a way that rarely happens. I'm telling you,
long after we are all dead, everybody listening to this
(28:38):
right now is gone. They will be writing books about
this twenty twenty four campaign, which people one hundred years
from now are gonna be like, there's no way all
this actually happened.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
This is the craziest election. Is there a crazier election?
I don't know that there's a crazier I mean you'd
have to go with like Civil War error seen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I mean I think you'd have to go to like
eighteen sixty or eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I really do. But I mean definitely twenty first century
or twenty yeah, twenty first century, twentieth century, no question.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The wives of anybody living right now, maybe maybe the
election in forty four that happened during World War Two,
if some of you were old enough to have remembered that,
when Roosevelt they covered up his mental and physical deterioration.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, but they were success four. Yeah, they were successful though. Right,
That's the thing. And this is the other crazy thing
to keep in mind, everybody. If Biden doesn't go to
that debate, that's why I say they do. We need
to know. But they got desperate because Biden was sliding
so much in the polls against Trump, they thought he
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could pull it off. They took the gamble. The gamble was,
he just has to look like his eyes are open,
and they got to inject him with whatever they got
to do for the night, and then we're then we
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And we told you yesterday about this story. I wanted
to follow up on it. You have about fifty fifty
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or so South African africannor migrants who have been welcomed
into America my President Trumpet the administration. This is not
even a busy hour under the Biden border in one
sector of the border in terms of migrants, and those
(33:17):
were illegals. These are of course legal migrants who are
entering the country at our request, with our permission, as
they are supposed to. But Clay, we now have to
address something and it is not something that I ever
thought would would come up in quite this way. The
Democrats are just furious about America's warm embrace of African
(33:43):
migrants into our great nation. They all of a sudden
have a problem with I thought we were a nation
of immigrants. I thought that everything was supposed to be
this way, where we just bring in people from wherever.
Or in fact, they thought it was supposed to be
that people could just choose to come, they could break
our laws, they could just show up. We all know
(34:06):
what's going on here. And it's very interesting because they're
quite upset by the situation. And it's because I think
it shows a lot of the rot, the moral and
intellectual rot that has completely overtaken the Democrat Party and
the left, and specifically on issues relating to not just
(34:26):
immigration but race. And this is shown by the fact
that they are so upset over fifty white migrants showing
up from South Africa. And the reason is that they're
showing up because the government of South Africa, which is
now is black. I mean everyone who runs the country
(34:48):
essentially is black, is being racist to their white minority.
And this is something that's very hard for the Democrat
mind to accept or comprehend. How is it possible we
have trained and told everybody for so many years, Clay
that white people are the bad people whenever it comes
to race relations, that any injustice that occurs in the
(35:10):
realm of race must be white people doing it to
somebody else. And this is where this whole thing has
turned into something of a farce because Democrats suddenly find
themselves upset about the Scott Jennings, who does, as we know,
great work on CNN. He pointed this out last night
on CNN when they had a panel on this This
(35:31):
is cut nineteen listen in.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I do think it's not alleged discrimination that these people
are facing in South Africa. I mean the law there
absolutely allows their property to be confiscated. They are subject
to racial discriminations, some have been subject to violence from
some reports that I have read.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean, we're talking about.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Fifty something people, and the people who seem to be
angriest about this today had no problem with twenty million
coming here, some of the worst people in the world
coming here, including gang members and so on and so forth.
So I don't have a lot of sympathy for the
folks who are outraged today after what happened to this
country over the last several years, over fifty something people
who are clearly being discriminated against in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Claiming if you asked the average MSNBC guest or CNN host,
who would you rather have here an a legal MS
thirteen gang member or a legal immigrant from South Africa
fleeing oppression who happens to be white. I think we
all know the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, it's not a difficult call. And to me, this
is emblematic of one of the major structural issues that
the Democrat Party has. They're racist against white people now
as a huge part of their base. They're also anti
Semitic as a huge part of their base, and this
identity politics coalition that we all were told they had
(36:53):
built during Obama's presidency. You talked about how Obama did
not have any sort of substantial sort of a glow.
He didn't have any ability to transcend or bring his
popularity to other people. Right, his coattails did not actually
drag very many other people into office. In fact, the
(37:14):
reality was things went worse for Democrats. But look at
what they've done since. Because this is the natural result
of this. They ran Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, and
what did they argue? It's her time, It's time for
a woman to be president. They tried to identity politics
coalition Hillary into the White House. Then they actually went
(37:36):
back completely on it and went with Joe Biden, the oldest, whitest,
as we just said, least mentally and physically competent president
that we've probably ever had in any of our lives.
And they dragged him across the finish line because buck
I think they got lucky with COVID happening, which allowed
them to hide him in the basement. Otherwise Trump would
have won comfortably in twenty twenty and then in twenty
(37:57):
twenty four, what did they do? They went back to
the identity Poul coalition, and they got stamped and they
cannot escape it. Now they have unleashed the crazy inside
of their party, and the crazy is of the opinion
that white men were and are the root evil of society.
(38:18):
And then of course it's expanded to Hispanic men and
Asian men and black men because all of masculinity is
now toxic and they do not have anyone.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They don't have anyone.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is where I come back to again. Who is
a normal dude in the Democrat Party? Who is just
a guy that you would like to have a beer with,
that has in any way a prominent voice in the
Democrat Party. To me, this is all connected to the
problem they had. They recognized the issue, they tried to
bring in a guy like Tim Walls, but they are
(38:50):
hemorrhaging support from normal men all over the country. And
I think a lot of normal women have followed them too.
But this is profoundly a rebel from the Democrat Party
being led by men such that, remember Buck, they had
Obama try to lecture black men for not showing up
and supporting Kamala Enough. Remember that, right in the tail
(39:11):
end of the campaign, they had Obama Their big strategy
on how to turn out black men was to have
Obama tell all black men out there, hey, you're being
a little bit sexist because you're not supporting you're not
supporting Kamala enough. All of this, I think is blowing
up in their faces. And I think when you see
a story like this out of South Africa, it is evidence.
(39:34):
And I sent to Greg we'll see when this clip
comes in. But on interviews, leaders in South Africa are
basically saying, Hey, we need to kill more white people
in the country.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, you're talking. There's a song that goes back to
the days of apartheid, and it was it's they talk
about killing the boar, which is a reference to the
Dutch ancestry africaner farmers. Uh. And look, there was a
repulsive and immoral system of apartheid in South Africa, and
(40:07):
when it was then removed, they unfortunately replaced it with
something that it could have been a rule of law.
Everyone has treated equal democracy, but what they replaced it
with was a racial entitlement state. So certainly not as
bad as apartheid was, but still bad. I mean, they
(40:28):
still got bigger. You know, you still have rules that
disenfranchise the seven percent. You know, it's a small, pretty
small minority of the country, but the seven percent of
the country that is white explicitly so. And the country
is having huge problems. I mean, if you look at
the economy, crime, I mean, all of the issues of
(40:48):
governance for certainly the last thirty years or so that
you could measure in South Africa, it the place is
a mess. And they've got rolling blackouts. They literally can't
keep the lights on in this country. And this was
not something that had existed previously. So they've got a
lot of challenges, a lot of problems. But bringing it
back here for a second, why you know, first of all,
(41:12):
as you've pointed out, you know, Disney like freaks out
and doesn't want to have the baseball game in Georgia
or something. What was it again, I know, over.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
The Atlanta over the new Georgia voting bill, which actually
has increased the number of people that are out in
their vote. But yeah, they pulled the All Star Game
out of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
So so the hint of the smallest injustice in this
country that you know affects people that the left cares
about is a national crisis, but an open policy of
racial discrimination, which is what it is in South Africa.
We should be opposed in principle because it is based
in principle against racial discrimination anywhere in any form. We
(41:52):
just had to have a reckoning with this in our
own country where the affirmative action policies that had been
in place were racist, They were wrong, they were unconstitutional.
Supreme Court finally has started to write that right, that
wrong and clay the Democrats, though they're so up. I
actually watched this MSNBC panel this morning on this here
(42:14):
is this is twenty one. They're angry that we took
fifty South African migrants. They really this is a big
problem for them. Plaint twenty one.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
So deeply and morally wrongheaded and repulsive. These are the
descendants of the people who created the most diabolical system
of white supremacy in human history, apartheid. This is a
modern replacement there in a country where, by the way,
white people make up seven percent of the population and
own seventy eight percent of the farmland. So actually there's
(42:45):
no injustice here. It's taking places away from refugees. We're
really being crushed by authoritarian governments. And for these folks
who have never had anything happen to them, and Trump
amazingly called it a genocide, one of the worst lies
I've ever heard him say. There's just been a small
handful of farmers that have been killed over the past
ten years. No land has actually been expropriated. It's just
(43:06):
a forest and a sham and a moral ugliness.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's not a small handful of people that have been killed.
Start with that, okay, but beyond that, clay, So what
do they want to have happened here? Because what they
did in Zimbabwe, and this is why I brought it
up yesterday, was land expropriation. It was okay, too many
white people here own land. We're taking it and we're
giving it. And that's why I brought up that documentary,
Mugabe and the White African and we're giving it to
(43:32):
the people. You know what happened the country started to
basically starve. I don't think they really want to go
down that route in South Africa. But they don't want
to say that because they don't want to actually have
to face the realities of the system that they are
presiding over.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Listen to this. This is from June of twenty eighteen,
but I wanted to play it. This is Julius Malema.
He's a leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters. In an interview,
he says, we're not calling right now for the killing
of white people. This is the kind of environment that exists.
This is a media interview, cut thirty seven.
Speaker 10 (44:07):
I don't know what's going to OpenD in the future.
I'm saying to you with not called for the killing
of white people, at least for now, I can't guarantee
the future. Yeah, but I mean you'd understand somebody watching that, especially.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
As it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. It
sounds like a genocidal.
Speaker 10 (44:24):
Ah, babies can baby.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I'm not calling for the white people, at least for now.
Speaker 10 (44:29):
I can't give a gun to you of the fusion,
especially when things are going the way they are subtext especially,
I think if things are going the way they are,
there will be a revolution in this country.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I can tell you now, I'm not calling for the
execution of white people right now.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
And he doubles downward. He's very clear. He's like, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. He's like, don't be a bit
as that's what I'm saying. Not misspeaking. If you have
an issue with that. You're a cry baby, that is.
And then there's also the the singing. I meant to
get to this, but I got diverted. The singing of
the song shoot the Boar, you know, shoot the Farmer,
which has been there's video of that which is circulated
from I mean, it's a stadium full of people. It's like,
(45:07):
let's say, I don't know, forty thousand people or something,
we're all singing shoot the white people. And this is
from the head of a political party, right, So you know,
if the head of the libertarian party in this country
was I'm just picking a random party, but you know,
if the head of any party in this country was
having rallies where they're saying we're not calling for the
execution of our fellow citizens yet, or cheering and chanting
(45:29):
about it, I think people would have a problem with that.
But you see, Democrats always have to pretend, they have
to pretend to be the heroes and the civil rights
struggles that they had nothing to do with. And so
whenever you bring up South Africa, all they want to
talk about is South Africa from forty to fifty sixty
years ago. Yeah, they don't want to talk about South
Africa today, which is the problem, no doubt.
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. All right, So Buck,
CNN last night, I think you'd mentioned this a little bit.
Scott Jennings got into it with some of the panelists
on the CNN primetime show, The Abby Phillips Show, and
I want you to listen to how crazy The answer
(47:28):
is here from this woman who's debating. Will figure out
her name in a sec. But she says, well, if
they're not happy in South Africa, they should just go
back to the country that they came from hundreds of
years ago. Because I think this gets into a really
interesting question. At what point are you a native of
where you actually live? I would argue it's way less
(47:49):
than hundreds of years ago. But listen to this discussion.
She says, if they're not happy, they should just go
back to Germany or Holland or wherever.
Speaker 11 (47:57):
Listen, thirty five thirty plus years ago, they went through
a the partheid system ended and they reformed their constitution
under the great leader of Nelson Mandela, and that allowed
for a racial reconciliation, one that this country has yet
to do.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
But South Africa did it.
Speaker 11 (48:17):
And they reform their constitution. And part of that is
that the people who are native to that land deserve
their rightful land back. That is not what the Afrikaaners
actually want to have happened, which are the white Africans
and so who are not originally from Africa who colonize
South Africa also, and so that is what they are
(48:38):
saying is discrimination. Now, if the constitution in South Africa
is discriminatory, they.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Have their checks and.
Speaker 11 (48:45):
Balances in that land just like we do, and that
is for them to So if the Afrikaaners don't actually
like the land, they can leave that country. They can
actually even go to where their native land is, which
is probably are you against and coming here, Holland, Holland,
are you against in coming here? I'm against the hypocrisy
(49:05):
of this.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
In Minutesota, I think we can have a big discussion
is how I have to be careful that to curse
sometimes and I listen to some of.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
These cliffs go back to their native land.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Like, if you say that in the United States about
somebody who's been here like ten years, you are a
crazy racist, right, go back.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
To where you came from. Yeah, minutes. If you're a
friend of Aragua gangbanger who lies to immigration authority, sneaks
into the countries, you can beat your wife in human traffic.
The Libs are like, he's as American as Thomas Jefferson,
and how wild is this?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
They want him to go back to Germany and Holland
from where they hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
There's a million ways to analyze this. Whatever it's anti
whiteness was made fashionable in the Democrat Party was mandatory
belief in the Democrat Party that people say, well, what
about all the white people vote Democrat? Yeah, they're collaborators
with the ideology. They think that they're above it and
better than the other white people that have to be
constantly maligned and undermined.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Fair question, because I do think this is interesting. How
long do you have to live somewhere to be considered
a native?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think if people have been somewhere for I'm trying
to do the math them I had three hundred and
fifty some odd years because the Dutchyst India Company landed
in South Africa. By the way they built the country too,
there was no country. Of course, there were warring African tribes.
The Zulu tribe was a conquering tribe that came one
hundred and fifty years after the Dutch arrived there. But
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