Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Nov 17 2025

Trantifa

Explosive revelations surrounding the would-be Trump assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania, exposing shocking details that contradict the official narrative. Clay and Buck break down newly uncovered evidence from Tucker Carlson and Miranda Devine showing the suspect’s extremist ideology, violent threats posted openly on YouTube, and ties to radical left-wing movements like Antifa and trans activism. The hosts question why federal authorities failed to identify these clear warning signs, raising concerns about FBI competence—or possible cover-ups—when politically motivated violence targets conservatives.

The discussion expands to a broader pattern of domestic extremism, citing recent high-profile attacks linked to radical ideologies, including the Charlie Kirk assassination, the Covington school shooting, and the Minneapolis church attack. Clay and Buck argue these incidents reveal a growing national security threat fueled by far-left narratives and identity politics, while mainstream media and Democrats downplay the danger.

The show then pivots to breaking political news: Paul Finebaum, ESPN and SEC Network personality, signals serious interest in running for the U.S. Senate in Alabama. In an exclusive conversation, Finebaum explains what inspired him—citing the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a desire to unite Christians and Jews against rising cultural division. He outlines priorities like strengthening the economy, restoring trust in leadership, and addressing issues in college athletics. Clay and Buck weigh in on his chances, predicting a potential landslide if he enters the race.

Narco-Terrorism

An in-depth discussion on the Pentagon’s escalating war on drug cartels, featuring an exclusive interview with Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin. The Senator details the impact of 21 U.S. military strikes on Venezuelan narco-terrorist boats, explaining how these operations have disrupted fentanyl and cocaine supply chains, driven up street prices, and targeted cartel networks inside U.S. cities. He emphasizes the administration’s aggressive approach, including designating cartels as terrorist organizations and deploying DHS and DOT to dismantle distribution lines nationwide.

The conversation pivots to the Butler, Pennsylvania Trump assassination attempt revelations, where Clay and Buck press Senator Mullin on reports from Tucker Carlson and Miranda Devine alleging the shooter’s radicalization and violent online threats. Mullin voices skepticism about media-driven theories, stressing reliance on verified intelligence over speculation, while acknowledging the seriousness of politically motivated violence.

Next, the show dives into Rand Paul’s criticism of the legality of cartel strikes, prompting a fiery response from Senator Mullin, who defends the President’s constitutional authority and calls out Paul’s libertarian leanings. The segment also touches on college football culture as Mullen recounts attending the Alabama-Oklahoma game and reacts to news that Paul Finebaum may run for Senate in Alabama, praising citizens who step up for public service.

The Epstein Deflection

Analysis of President Trump’s call to release all Epstein files, ahead of a major congressional vote. Clay and Buck argue that Democrats are using the Epstein story as a distraction from their failed government shutdown strategy, while Trump’s transparency stance undercuts partisan attacks. They note that if damaging evidence existed, it would have surfaced during Trump’s multiple indictments, reinforcing the narrative that this is political theater.

The conversation then revisits the Butler, Pennsylvania Trump assassination attempt revelations, spotlighting reports from Miranda Devine and Tucker Carlson that the shooter posted violent threats under his real name and embraced radical left-wing ideology, including trans activism. Clay and Buck question why the FBI missed these signals and explore whether online interactions further radicalized the suspect, framing this as a growing national security concern tied to extremist rhetoric amplified by Democrats.

Next, the hosts tackle the controversy surrounding Tucker Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes, dissecting Trump’s response defending Tucker’s right to choose his guests and rejecting calls for censorship. They highlight Carlson’s striking comments to The New York Times about the GOP’s growing hostility to free speech, warning against speech policing within conservative ranks. Clay and Buck reaffirm their commitment to open dialogue, emphasizing that the cure for speech you dislike is more speech—not censorship.

Clay's Super Secret Trip

Clay hints about his upcoming trip overseas and asks the audience if they can g

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Lots
of revelations that came out over the course of the
weekends that we will be discussing. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen

(00:24):
scheduled to join us, as well as potential Senate candidate
Paul Finbaum from Alabama SEC Network ESPN, all of those places,
all of that discussion still to come. But Buck, this
is pretty crazy from Tucker Carlson and also from our

(00:46):
friend Miranda Divine. Miranda Divine will join us tomorrow on
the program. There are new, i would say, pretty blockbuster
revelations that have just dropped about the would be Trump
assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Among some of.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
The revelations, the guy was on YouTube posting violent threats
against Donald Trump for months in twenty twenty. Nothing was
done to him. He used they them pronouns. He evidently
had some form of furry fetish, hated Trump, loved political violence,

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was engaging in extremist rhetoric, and he called Trump racist
and called Republicans a cult. They have said that he
was a Republican. That is, Buck, a complete and total lie.
And so all of this again, you can go read

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it yourself. Miranda will be on the program tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
This is it was always we said on this program.
It's been over a year now since that July thirteenth shooting,
but it has always been the case that the idea
that somehow the Trump shooter was a Republican or a
Trump supporter, which is one of the things they tried
to float. It's always been ridiculous. But for all of

(02:24):
these revelations to come out, not from everyone involved in
the in the actual investigation, but from the media, I
think is frankly inexcusable. And remember they have basically said, oh,
we may never know the motivations here. This guy didn't
leave any trail online. We've been unable to uncover anything

(02:48):
about him. He had like a dozen social media accounts
where he was posting all the time, what is going
on here?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, also, how could it possibly take so long or
this to be uncovered? And why is it that this
was at least in part uncovered by Tucker Carlson's investigative team.
They have better resources, I mean credit to them. They
have better resources than the FBI and the intelligence community.

(03:17):
The intelligence community and the federal law enforcement apparatus is vast,
my friends, and does have tremendous power, as we know,
because when they decide to go after you for a
nonviolent J six protest, they can show up at five am,
kick down your door, find you anywhere in the country,
and send thirty agents we know that was there that
was possible. They can send people to go into Malania's

(03:40):
underwear drawor and mar A Lago because of some dusty
documents in a bin that they can do. But this
this has to be uncovered in this manner. And let's
just be very clear about the situation. Now, let's put
this into context. How many Trantifa furry terrorists do we

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have to have involved in the most heinous and high
profile violence of a political nature in the country before
we realize that this is and not just realize act
on the realization that this is a really serious problem.
How many of these the Charlie Kirk assassin a Trantifa

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furry maniac. The Comington School massacre a Trantifa maniac. The
half an inch away from changing world history and taking
America into the darkest place it has been since the
Civil War. And that is not an exaggeration, unlike what
the Libs do. That would be assassin as we find

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out now a Trantifa maniac Clay, Minneapolis Tubuck, the Minneapolis
church shooting, that just happens. Well, there's even more than
there's even more than that. I mean, I'm just going
for the highest profile. There are a number of them
that have occurred where later on there's kind of this
whimpering of reporting of oh, yeah, they were using they

(05:05):
pronouns clay. We're always told this is a very small
subset of the population overall. I know it's been growing
among gen z and actually now it's falling. But the
self identified trends, and remember those numbers are usually for
LGBTQIAI plus it's like belonging to a club for a
lot of college kids. But actual they them trans ideologues

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are responsible now for how many of the highest profile
assassinations and assassination attempts of recent years. This is a
major national security problem. And the Democrats, by the way,
the mainstream Democrat party, the ideology clay that has people
saying horrible stuff to you when you say, if you

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have male, you know body parts, if you have a penis,
you shouldn't be playing sports against women. That same ideology.
These are just the rat that come from that. This
is pushed from the very top by the Democrat apparatus,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Here's the other thing that I think is so significant
about this. He was on YouTube under his own name
making violent threats. We're not talking about needing to have
the greatest crack team of investigators of all time to
figure out who this guy is. As soon as the

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assassination attempt happened, YouTube knew who he was and locked
down his account. And again, all of these postings are
now coming out. What's intriguing to me Buck is initial.
First of all, he's a it seems as you would
well imagine one of these lost souls of the Internet,

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a lost boy in many ways of the Internet. And
initially his posts on YouTube are very pro Trump and
very anti Democrat. And then COVID happens, and starting in
that January of twenty twenty window, he starts to become
extremely anti Trump and anti Republicans. Not going to shock

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a lot of people out there, he was very furious
about the fact that people didn't want to lock down,
that they weren't wearing masks. So he somehow succumbed to
left wing politics and it radicalized him. Now he goes
dark at some point in the summer in the fall

(07:33):
of twenty twenty, but there are people interacting with him online.
I immediately think, wait a minute, did some of these
guys that he met online, did they then interact with
him and encourage him to attempt this assassination of President Trump.
I'm now questioning everything because what we were told that

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he had no coherent political it isology, that they couldn't
find any way to track him down, that he wasn't
active online. All of it's a lie, all of it.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And this is also on here. Let's think about the
political implications, Clay. This happened during the election cycle, So
wouldn't it matter a lot to people to know that
what is orthodoxy for the Democrat Party, a man can
become a woman. All this crazy sexual stuff too, that

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they're you know, they're now non binary and use the
weird pronouns and if you're into furries and you're a them,
I mean this theF all comes from the left, a left.
We went into this election cycle and let's be very
honest about what the mentality was. You me, all of
you with us right now. We were just so thankful

(08:48):
and prayerful and this unbelievable sigh of relief that Donald
Trump was okay, and he had the most badass political
moment any of us have ever seen in our lives
when he raised the with his side of his head,
bloody a five five six round missing, killing our president
by an inch. Okay, we're thinking about it in that context,

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but there was another context that was missing that wasn't
really a part of the discussion. Yes, it was someone
tried to kill Donald Trump, but it was a left
wing radical who bought into the ideology of the Democrat Party.
It was a political hit based upon what Democrats say
daily about how we're erasing trans people and there's a

(09:31):
genocide of trans and all this lunar and Trump is
a Nazi and Trump is a fascist, all of.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
That, and the second would be Trump assassin. We one
hundred percent know exactly what his perspective was. I think
probably only because he was actually active on Twitter and
Elon Musk didn't immediately hide it, and you could see
all the things that he had posted about he was
obsessed with Ukraine and the idea that Trump was Hitler

(09:58):
and he thought he was a hero for trying to
kill him. This is the second one. This is I'm sorry,
this is a five alarm fire. And how many times
do we have to hear, Oh, we had no idea
what his motivations were, and then you just go into

(10:18):
freaking YouTube and he's posting under his own name exactly
what his motivations are, calls for political violence. And they
told us that they couldn't figure any of this out.
I know Cash is going to be on the show
later this week, FBI director Cash Pttel, and I'm sure
that will be a point of discussion.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Can I just kind of point out one thing he's
definitely going to say is he was an FBI director
when this happened, or for all the months after it happened,
And so you know, we have to make sure that
we parse out here who was in charge when this
went on, who ran that investigation. Now, they may have
had to reopen the investigation, and maybe they were slower
on that than they should have been, or to do

(11:00):
it more resources. But Clay, I'm sure the FBI handover was, oh,
we've already looked into this and done everything that's right.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sure that that's true. But what does it say
that the New York Post and Tucker Carlson are more
reliable sources for investigating a would be assassin of Donald
Trump than our security apparatus, including the FBI. I mean,
this is troubling when I read all this this morning
as I was getting ready, and when I saw these

(11:28):
videos and everything else, this is staggering levels of incompetence
such that it makes me wonder is it actually in
competence at all.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Trantifa is the most dangerous terrorist ideology in America right now.
That is a reality that we all have to understand.
This is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism. However someone wants to
get into the descriptions of it. This is politically motivated
violence that has a common apt that cannot be ignored.

(12:02):
It is individuals who have taken the Democrat line on
this stuff, which is crazy, It is deranged. It is
delusional to think that you can become a different gender.
And what's worse is that they add on top of this,
those of us who refuse to go along with the
delusion are monsters, are Nazis, And what do we all

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know you can do to Nazis? What are you allowed
to do to those who are fascists? Right? This is
why they call themselves Antifa, This is why Trantifa, the
trans Antifa wing, is responsible for these kinds of actions.
But Clay, the Charlie Kirk assassin, the almost Donald Trump assassin,
the Covington School shooter, as you point at the Minneapolis

(12:47):
church shooting, these are some of the worst things we
have seen in this country in years. And in the
case of those political assassinations and almost assassination of Trump
would have been the worst assassination we have seen, perhaps
in the history of this country. Honestly, would have torn
the country apart, far more if Trump was killed than
even what happened to JFK. And I think that's just
the truth.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
And this all happened in the last couple of years,
all of them directly connected, all of them trans related
elements of violence. And again they covered all of this up.
About the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, they told us all we
came on this program, we talked about, hey, we don't
believe that this guy was truly without a footprint, and

(13:30):
that there was no animus involved. People said, Oh, we
don't really know why he tried to kill the president.
We may never know.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That was the official FBI statement. But think of how
many people on the ideological side of this are complicit
in the delusion. And I'm not saying that they are
criminally responsible for these assassination attempts, but i am saying
that they promote a lie in our society that has
resulted in some of the most dangerous political violence that

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we have ever seen. And they are promoted. They promote
this from the top of the Democrat Party. The Biden
administration was putting out White House press releases on the
need for trans care, surgery, hormones for miners, for miners, everybody. Yes,
they have gone completely bonkers on this, and they were
saying that we were the monsters. They were saying that

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we were the bad people because we were trying to
protect kids and protect women and protect the American people.
And Clay, what do we find out in the Covington shooting.
Why did it take so long for the manifesto to
come out? Because they just didn't want the public to
have the real proof We all knew, but they didn't
want the proof and now another time they can. Oh,
they can never find the real motive. When it's a

(14:41):
Trantifa left wing maniac who aligns with a lot of
Democrat orthodoxy, then it's really hard to figure out the motive.
Maybe it's a Trump supporter who shot at Trump. Think
about how insane that is they were saying that. So
it's my friends, we have to see this for what
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are joined now
by ESPN and the SEC Networks. Paul Fine baumb maybe
in the future. Senator Paul Fine baumb from Alabama. I
know that everybody in your state right now, Paul is
fired up about what happened with Oklahoma beating Alabama in

(16:50):
the Iron Bowl game against Auburn, and you can give
us a take on that in a moment. But you
are seriously considering running four for the Senate in Alabama.
You talked about this with me about a month or
so ago. What has happened since then, What is your
process like, and how did this come to be a

(17:12):
reality in many ways?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Clay, First of all, it came to be a reality
when a couple of very influential people reached out to
me just about the time that Bruce Pearl chose not
to run. There was an evolution and I started it
back in May when when President Trump came to Tuscaloosa
and I said an interview President Trump, while you're there,

(17:37):
police talk Nick Saban into running for the open seat
vacated by coach Tumberville. Saban obviously chose not to. Pearl
was next, and after Bruce Pearl dropped dropped out and
decided not to do it, a group, This same group,
I believe very unhappy with a rather meager field in
Alabama came to me and I was thinking about it,

(17:59):
and then September tenth happened, Clay, And that was, of course,
as everyone listening knows, when Charlie Kirk was tragically assassinated,
and it got me thinking, and as I alluded, in
the aftermath of our conversation, I talked to a number
of people, including my close friend and co worker Tim Tebow,
who was very close to Charlie, and it inspired me

(18:22):
to want to keep moving forward. And we had our conversation,
and naturally there was a reaction, but the typical reaction
as well, from the low level political types who tried
to drive me out of the race even before I
had gotten in, And then a number of other people
kept saying, you have to make a decision, you can't wait,

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And just to finally circle this all around, Clay, you
know what's going on in Alabama and everywhere in the
country right now. We're in the middle of the college
football season, and I simply couldn't walk away. And I've
had a number of people say, listen, if you don't
get in by November one, November tenth, we're going to
move on. And I said, well, you're going to have
to because I'm not getting in until I get through

(19:03):
this season and completely think it true. And there's one
other thing I do want to say in terms of
Charlie Kirk and what he stood for. And I've talked
to a couple of people from Turning Point, and whether
I run or not, I am deeply committed to following
what he did and what I saw JD vancedu masterfully
in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and that's spend

(19:24):
time on college campuses with a group of young people,
especially males, who, by the way, are big fans of
you and Buck and who have bought your book and
made it a bestseller, and who I think are really
where the future is in this country.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
What do you think the impact would be as a
Jewish person running for the Senate in Alabama? You mentioned
Bruce Pearl. Bruce Pearl is also Jewish. It seems to
me there's a real war between good and evil going on.
I think the assassination of Charlie Kirk was a part
of this. I think it also ties into the October seven,

(19:59):
tw three attack we saw. There's obviously a lot of
Christians and a lot of Jews in Alabama who are
on the side of good. What do you think you
could do as a Jewish senator from Alabama should you
decide to run to bring Christians and Jews together.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
That would be one of the major goals, Clay, because
right now I don't need to tell anyone listening to
the show where that issue is and how much division
is out there. And I had a political operative tell
me about a month ago. Listen. I like you apology
my entire career. I appreciate how you've spoken out on
hypocrisy and held the people that run college football accountable.

(20:38):
But you're Jewish and it will never work in Alabama.
I disagree strongly. I have lived in Alabama most of
my adult life. I think people here have taken a
ridiculously unfair attack and have been painted in a corner
that may have been true fifty or sixty years ago,
but it's not true today. I'm not going to run

(20:59):
on being a Jewish Republican senator if I chose to
from Alabama. But but I think you would, you know,
standing up there, assuming it happened with Senator britt who
is someone who has represented the great values of the State.
I think we would make an incredible tandem. And I
think I'm the only person that I'm not in the field,

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but I think I'm the only person that could actually
do that. Everyone else, it seems, are the people leading
in the so called polling are your career politicians. I'm
not going to waste time attacking career politicians. But the
state of Alabama spoke six years ago with coach Shoverbil,
you know what that was all about. Clay, you encouraged him.

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Bruce would have been the same way. And who are they?
They're people that speak their mind, that don't listen to pollsters,
that say, I'm not going to do that because it's
going to help me get in with the White House
or get the President's in dorse and everybody wants that,
But that's not who I am. And if I chose
to run and uh and and had something that I disagree,

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but first of all, I would I would do it privately,
am I kind of go on CNN, UH and and
and and tell everybody that I disagree. But but I
also think that the problem we have nowadays, especially today,
is that people UH just want to suck up. They
want to sell their soul do anything uh humanly possible
so they can uh get a check mark from the

(22:25):
White House or the President or someone else. And and
that's that's my biggest concern running is that's not who
I am play, and that's not why we have been
friends a long time, and that's not what what what
prompted you to get into this field, Because the audience
may have forgotten you. You were in my field and
my company was pretty close to hiring you a number
of years ago until until until it got stopped because

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you were too controversial.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
That sounds about right, Paul, Thanks for for being here
with us. This is Buck, and I'm not as familiar
with the SEC football world as play, which is uh
that's just putting it mildly. But I saw have paid
very close attention to the Senate for a long time. Oh,
I'll just throw this out there. If you do formally
decide to run, I know a really great radio show
with almost six hundred stations that you should probably announce

(23:10):
it on. So I'm just trying to help, trying to
be a helpful guy. So if and when the day
comes when you formally announce, I think Clay and Buck
would be a great place for you.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
But beyond that, if you were to transition from what
you have been doing in the world of sports and
speaking very candidly to the people of Alabama about all
things around that, to the Senate, the United States Senate,
what are the issues that really gets you the most energized.
You spoke of being called to this in part because
of the feeling of urgency to save this country in

(23:44):
the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. But on a
policy level, what do you want to do what would
really matter to you as a senator?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
The most important thing, buck I believe, is what matters
most to every Alabamian or every person from Connecticut or Texas.
And that's how am I doing what is going on
in my life right now. And it starts with the
economy that ultimately drives people to the poult And I'm
particularly glad to see the White House understand that right now,

(24:14):
because well, foreign policy is essential and we can't have
a safe and secure nation without it. The pocketbook matters most,
and that's what I hear. And I'm realizing that I
do a talk show, not a political show, but everyday
people that come up to me, no matter where I am,
come to me and say, how are you going to

(24:34):
make my life better? So I think that has to
be the number one go and claim book. One more thing,
if I could divert for a second, because I don't
want to miss this moment. What I have heard. I
mentioned young people, and I'm on a college campus every
Friday and Saturday. They are fed up with their future

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and less things change. But what's really interesting if I've
I'm not going to name them, but I've had head
football coaches reach out to me directly and then directly
through through from through text. I've had college administrators, college presidents,
And that is the scary part because every time I
think about not doing it and and that that happens

(25:17):
too often when you're trying to live in the moment
of the season I get. I get encouragement and nourishment
from so many of these people, and it is encouraging
and refreshing. But but it also goes to another issue.
And this is not the most important issue in the country.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
The economy is in our in our national security, but
the most important issue for where I live every day
for four hours is college athletics and you heard the
president a reference that on McAfee and let's it was
censored in your house, Clay and Buck, but but that
that that we need more work there and Tommy tumber

(25:55):
Will did a lot of good But unfortunately, uh, if
some of the predictions are true of where we are
going another year, that may be gone forever.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You got coaches asking you to run in college football,
you got athletic directors, presidents of schools. Imagine that has
been flattering. What is your time frame? I know the
primary I believe is in May. In Alabama, obviously there's
a campaign season, but as you also noted, the number
one story of Alabama right now is the Iron Bowl

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in a couple of weeks. Have you put on your
calendar a date whereby you need to make a decision.
What is the process like for you as you go
through and decide whether or not you're going to run.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, Clay, the two biggest issues here are the Iron
Bowl and whether to Fried Turkey on Thanksgiving. The timetable
is right as the season ends, and I know I'm
under contract to ESPN, and I feel like I have
to get to the end of the season before making
a decision. And if it costs me getting in, then
I will find something else to let my mind wander on.

(27:02):
But but but that that is where it is, and
it's not easy, and that's my decisions, nobody else's. And
I do want to thank Burt Magnus at ESPN for
allowing me, uh this time. He's the he's the top
person in my world, and it was very A lot
of people would have said, listen, you have to you're

(27:22):
you're out. You're not going to be able to talk
about this at this situation. But but but he has
been incredibly kind. The other thing I'm just trying to
deal with is is just my lane. And I shouldn't
be saying this because that's not what politicians are supposed
to say. But but I've been under a microscope for
forty years. I've said a lot of things, as you

(27:43):
and Buck have said. I've built a national brand, and
I dealt with people during on air crisis. And you
talk about an on air crisis, Clay, try try try
maybe sitting an audience on the night of January tenth,
two years ago, when the when the news bulletin broke
that Nick Saban was resigning and retiring. I mean that.

(28:03):
I mean that that took every ounce of patience to
because because that was a national nightmare for the state
of Alabama. But you also what also happens when you're
under that microscope and every single thing you have said
gets recorded and regurgitated, is you have to answer for
a lot of things. And that's really where I am

(28:24):
right now, because all the low level politicians and the
operatives are saying, well, you said this about the president,
and you once said this about Nick Saban. I've actually
been criticized Clay for this. Nick Saban came out in
twenty twenty and said that he did a public service
ad for during COVID for masking and social distancing, and

(28:47):
then he marched with his players during a bom march.
I praised him, and you know why I praised and
forget the politics of it. Ed Ozeron did not do that.
He lost his he lost his team, his locker room,
and ultimately gotired. And those are the things that that
people are trying to keep me out of the race.
For criticizing the president once during a debate with Stephen A.

(29:08):
Smith and praising Nick Saban, I don't know if I
can I can win on the debate with Stephen A. Smith,
and I'll take my shots. I'm praising Nick Saban in
the state of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Do you think you would beat the people who are running?
Like if you really got in there. You talk for
a living, you communicate for a living. I tend to
think you'd be pretty good at it. The President obviously
came out of the world of media. He's brought in
a lot of people Fox News and otherwise who have
come from the world of media, and they've done a
great job.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Do you think you'd win?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yes, I do, And I've asked a number of people.
Because you don't want to get in a raise and
have it become a disaster. I think the better question
is to Uclay do you think I would win? Because
you understand the state of Alabama, You're beloved. I was
at it. I was in an event about three weeks ago,
the most prestigious group in the entire state. It's called
the Monday morn In Quarterback Club. They're bringing people from

(30:01):
all over the country. I was about to speak, and
before I was introduced, the head of the group got
up in front of the audience and said, we have
a big announcement to make our guest speaker in our
year end banquet, and I was like, going, Saban, and
he said it will be Clay Travis. And I'm like going,
oh my goodness, I mean, and there was an absolute cheer.

(30:22):
So the reason I turned the question back to you is,
you know the state of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, you would win in a landslide. But I told
Buck you would win in a land slide. Buck's right,
when you decide to run, you come on, you announce
it with us. We'll make that even more likely. Potentially
next Senator Paul Finebaum talking about the big Oklahoma loss
on his SEC Network show later today. Senator Finebaum, potentially,
thanks for the time here, and we'll talk to you

(30:48):
again soon.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Clay Buck, thank you very very much.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
That is Paul Finbaum, and you guys can react to that.
I know all over Alabama and a lot of people
listening to his show on a regular basis not expecting
a sarily to hear them on here. But I do
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Speaker 3 (31:50):
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Speaker 1 (31:58):
Welcome back in hour number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We got a bunch of stuff to dive into and
update you on. We've been talking about the alleged revelations
involving Trump, Butler Pa Assassin, what he said online, what
his motivations appear to have been.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
We opened up the.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Program talking about that Miranda Devine will be a guest
on the program tomorrow. She has written a substantial article
about it for The New York Post. Tucker Carlson has
also done a big video discussion of all of that,
and that has been a big topic of discussion. President

(32:41):
Trump was at mar A Lago over the weekend. We
also been talking about affordability. We'll get to some of that.
We talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. We
also talked with Paul Feinbaum, potential candidate for the Senate
in the state of Alabama. And we should mention we

(33:02):
have not talked about it yet, that there is a
discussion surrounding the Epstein files vote. And President Trump weighed
in last night and said, hey, let's go ahead and
everybody vote and release all of these files. I believe

(33:22):
that vote is coming on Tuesday. And they tried to
submarine Trump with selective leaking of emails last week because
they didn't want the attention to be on the fact
that the government shutdown had collapsed. And now Buck I
think Trump has gotten ahead entirely on this story, and

(33:45):
as a result, I just I don't think there's going
to be much there there for lack of a better
way of describing it, because President Trump is now saying
release all the files, and there's going to be a
huge vote to release all the files, and I think
the ones that are most damiting for Trump have already
been leaked.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Do you have a different take on this.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I think it's gonna go a long way towards really
kind of tamping down the discussion surrounding everything having to
do with the Epstein files.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I like that he's gonna give this no more at
least no more partisan oxygen in the sense that, all right, fine,
just just release the stuff. Guys, Let's let's just see.
Let's see what you got, you know, the smoking gun
that is in there that somehow nobody else has been
able to find or get out into the public before
about Trump. Please that that's the part of it. You

(34:36):
can just apply logic and common sense to these things,
and I think generally come to what is overwhelmingly going
to be ninety nine percent of the time the correct conclusion,
which is, if they had something about Donald Trump where
he was the bad guy in something Epstein related, he
wouldn't be in the middle of his second term and
thinking about you know his legacy on the world stage

(34:59):
in foreign policy, like it never would have gotten Here
is the point. So it's if they could have gotten
away with, to be clear, manufacturing a story about Trump
with Epstein, that would have stuck, would have to stick, right,
They would have done that too. If they could have
Russia collusioned him, they would have done that. But they can't.
So this is why again this is a frustration, and

(35:21):
I think that's why Donald it's a frustration in terms
of the time and here he is, this is cut too.
Trump just says it. Look, they the Democrats are doing
this because it's the shiny object to distract the news
cycle from the disastrous and idiotic shutdown they did.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
But cut too, fake news like you. You're a terrible reporter,
as fake news like you. They just keep bringing that up.
Should deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration.
So a guy like Massy, his pull numbers there showing
he said six percent approval rating right now, and we
call him Ran Paul Junior because he never he never

(35:56):
votes for the Republican Party. So the using Jeffrey Epstein
has a deflection from the tremendous success that we're having
as a party.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I think that's one hundred percent right, and we'll see
on Tuesday. I think the odds of there being anything
major that comes out when these are eventually voted on
and released is very low. In building on what you said, Buck,
if they were going to charge Trump with over fifty
felonies in New York, in DC, in South Florida, and

(36:28):
in Atlanta, if they had anything they could have charged
him with related to Jeffrey Epstein, don't you think they
would have instead of paying off a porn star and
the way that it was accounted for in the in
the books during the election campaign, don't you think they
maybe would have just said, Hey, this Epstein thing's got
a little more juice than many of the things that

(36:50):
he was charged with. Again, I think you just have
to use common sense here to recognize what's going on.
Our friend, Miranda Divine, by the way, is on right
now the Leads store on Fox. As we began our
show with two hours ago, Fox is now leading with
the New York Post revelations relating to this would be

(37:10):
assassin in Pennsylvania. And so I do think that this
story is going to have a lot of legs. If
you haven't heard yet, there are reports from The New
York Post also Tucker Carlson and others now that they
have been able to find the social media post surrounding
this assassin that led would be assassin. He did kill

(37:33):
an innocent dad, Corey Campetore can't forget in Butler, Pennsylvania,
as well as clip the President's ear and seriously injure
others that he was motivated, not surprisingly by left wing
anti Trump political perspectives, that he under his own name,
called for political violence, that he appears to have been

(37:56):
pursuing or at least intrigued by trans relation identity aspects,
and that if you go and look at his postings,
he moved from a young man who was supportive of
Trump to post covid deciding that Trump was a unique
threat to American life and that using violence to stop

(38:17):
him was potentially justified. Unfortunately, there are a lot of
young men and young women who have followed this path,
particularly young men.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
So there was this period of time when the left
was trying to make a mathematical concept popularized of stochastic terrorism,
right stochastic terrorism, and so what they were saying is,
if you put enough of this out there. Even if
you're not really crossing the line, you know that with

(38:48):
the millions and millions of people out there, someone is
going to cross the line, and therefore it's your fault
for what you have said or what your beliefs are.
This is what they the left was trying very hard
to push this for a walk Clay, I just think
it's interesting that that has disappeared in the era of
the trantifa terrorist when it's not a This is where

(39:10):
it's a big difference. This isn't a fringe concept. This
isn't among Democrats. This isn't something that you will only
hear among the most hard left. They will say things
about erasing trans people. They will say things about Trump
is a fascist and a Nazi from the very top

(39:30):
of the Democrat system and from the Democrat Party. You
name it, right, the No Kings protest. All this stuff
is about hysteria and hyperbole. The whole purpose of this
is to emotionally manipulate people and make them crazy. And
then they have some crazies who actually do things like

(39:51):
try assassinations that would plunge this country into the abyss.
And they take no responsibility whatsoever for the insane thing
that they have been saying everywhere from everyone, all the time,
on the left, all the time, among Democrats.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And I wonder, based on having seen these posts. And again,
the FBI, to my knowledge, has not commented yet on
these reports from the New York Post and from Tucker,
But there were people interacting with this kid. And I
say kid because he was a kid when he was
posting in the YouTube comments all of these incredibly violent things.

(40:29):
And then he goes dark starting in the summer ish
of twenty twenty. He's not posting from these accounts anymore.
I wonder whether, unfortunately, people saw this young man with
a radical bent who was posting all these violent threats,
and whether they were able to get in touch with him.

(40:49):
This is my speculation, and that further radicalized him, because
why would the posts have stopped. And then the next
thing you hear from him in a public vein is
that he's attempting to kill people and kill the president
of the United States. So I just I wonder what
is going on here and how all of this is

(41:13):
is developing. The Epstein file story is out there, as
we just said, Also, we probably should mention this because
it's gotten a lot of attention. I don't know how
hyper online you guys are, but there's a guy, frankly
that buck and I find most of his views to
be abhorrent. His name is Nick Fauintes, and whether or

(41:34):
not Tucker Carlson should have interviewed him has turned into
a major talking point where people have been going back
and forth, typically in the online ecosystem. I don't know
how much tension this gets elsewhere, but President Trump was
asked about it. I thought his answer was actually pretty solid.
We can play that as well. This was last night.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
In the Republican Party. Well, I found him to be good.
I mean, he said good things about me over the
years the season. I think he's good. We've had some
good interviews. I did an interview with him. We had
three hundred million hits. You know that. Look, I can't
tell him, well, you let me finish.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
We was back.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
You are the worst. You with Bloomberg, right, you are
the worst. I don't know why they even have you.
We've had some great interviews with Tucker Carlson, but you
can't tell him.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Who to interview him.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Mean, if he wants to interview Nick fluentez. I don't
know much about him, but if he wants to do it, get.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
The word out let him.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
You know, people have to decide.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
So brought Trump basically saying I don't think that guests
should be policed.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
And we make our own. And also this show. Yeah,
not willing to throw Tucker under the bus at all,
even for one second on that one, which was interesting, right,
It could be so easy to say, well, I you know,
I'm uh, you know, I really disagree with Tucker or whatever.
Trump stood right by Tucker, did not, did not back
down an inch off of it, and just said, look,

(43:07):
he decided to do this for his show. And now
it's become something of a national conversation. A lot of
people are having this chat. There was a little bit
of a hubbub over at the Heritage Foundation, a venerated
conservative institution in DC where the head whatever I don't know,
I not the CEO, the director, I guess, or whatever

(43:29):
you call the head guy Kevin Roberts, who we know
actually listens to this show on occasion. He stood up
for Tucker, and there's a lot of backlash to it. Look,
there's a fight. We don't really spend our time here
on this because one, I think we serve our we
serve all of you best by talking about the news
every day as it's happening and not getting into some

(43:52):
of the more personality based squabbling that is going on
out there. Because I also think a lot Clay to
your point, I think if you do this job, you're
very aware of it. I think for a lot of
the country, who's fighting with whom about what? It gets
some clicks online, But I don't think anyone's waking up
saying what do we think about that Tucker Ted Cruz interview,

(44:13):
for example, Like, I just don't think you know those
two guys had it out if you haven't seen that
they had it out, and you can watch the interview yourself.
But I'm I don't sit here. You don't sit here
trying to to pick and choose when we're gonna get
involved in the scrum. And I think that that's Trump's
I think that was Trump's response too. He's like, look,

(44:33):
I like Tucker, he wanted he wanted to let people
hear what this guy Fwint has had to say. I'm
leaving it there. That's what he said. Unless I'm missing something.
No one other quote.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Tucker did an interview with the New York Times, which
is interesting primarily because New York Times tried to destroy
Tucker for years. But I thought this was maybe the
most interesting quote the most this is, Tucker. The most
dispiriting fact of the last nine months is that huge
proportions of the Institutional Republican Party all kind of hate

(45:04):
free speech every bit as much as the left does.
They are every bit as censorious as some blue haired,
menopausal Black Lives Matter activist. And I just didn't know that,
and I'm disgusted. I feel betrayed. I take it personally.
I thought that was the most interesting quote, because I
do think it's important. When you get power, sometimes it

(45:27):
becomes intoxicating to try to shut down what other people say.
And now that Republicans have power, I think this show certainly,
but I would suggest others as well should stay committed
to the idea that, to me, the cure for speech
you don't.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Like is actually more speech.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's not trying to stop someone else from being able
to speak. So Jan here's an idea that you or
I feel the need to address and talk about. That's fine,
but we're not going to be the speech police for
individuals on the right, and certainly not in a way
that feels to me like it often can inherently advantage
the left and the comedies who are trying to destroy

(46:11):
the country. Would they what makes them very happy when
people on.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
The right are at each other's throats about anything, when
things are getting very nasty, and so we get the
emails and the comments here, we just we don't play
into that game. I don't do it. I know you
don't do it, and so I think it's totally fair
to be honest also with all of you that I
just have a standing rule. I'm not going to hit anything.

(46:34):
I'm not going to hit someone who's a friend because
I disagree with something that they said. They're allowed to
say what they want to say. I'm talking to friends
of mine now, and if I feel compelled to take
a different point of view, I'll take a different point
of view. But I'm not going to attack somebody personally
because I don't agree with the decision that they make
on their show, Because I just think also, this is
you know there, you see this thing and people also

(46:56):
is long history of this play and talk radio and
earlier even in cable news we're just turned into like
the host taking shots at each other, and it can
feel a little, uh, a little petty, a little petty.
So I don't know, what do you think, am I am? I? Oh,
no one.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I think if people to my we're going to break.
But I mean, my big takeaway on this is if
people attack us like the New York Times attack us.
Remember when they called us like the number three most
purveyor of disinformation or whatever the phrase was.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I mean we should have been number one. That was
what I was most ticked off about.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
But we invited the guy who wrote the article on
I think when we're attacked by name that it can
make sense to respond. But other people's shows are not
our responsibility to police, just like their responsibility isn't to
police what we do on our show. Like we're fortunate
to have the opportunity to say whatever we think. I'm
not really in the business of saying what other people

(47:47):
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Speaker 2 (49:01):
You can count on as some laughs too. Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (49:11):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. A lot
of different people reacting to a variety of different subjects.
We'll get some of your talkbacks. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. A little bit of
a heads up. And I don't want to say it
sound like Man of Mystery buck Sexton here, but I
am leaving the country this evening for a super secret

(49:31):
trip that I think is going to result in a
very positive story angle, but that I can't talk about.
Where I'm going to be it is not to tour
the Whispering Angel Winery. For those of you out there
lighting up my mentions over the fact that I happen
to decide to try some rose.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
First of all, that you would even consider cheating on
Gavin Newsom's winery, Clay, true, is unthinkable. It's true.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Buck's gonna have the show solo Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. But
maybe I'll be in a different time zone, but maybe
I can call in because I think if you guys
are paying attention to the news, if all goes, well,
we will have some news that will be positive nothing
nothing negative associated with it, but probably news in a
way that people don't anticipate me making news.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
If that makes sense. And that was that was really vague,
I'll be honest, Well, I don't know it makes sense. Yeah,
it was very vague. Yes, you know where I'm gonna be.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I don't know exactly how to say it without giving
it away, So it is a bit vague. And I
will be on a plane flight tonight out of the
country and hopefully we'll have a good result.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
If some of you have been wondering what would Clay
look like in circ disole tights, maybe you will get
your wish. Now I'm just gonna throw out stuff like
I'm just gonna chum the waters for Clay Ai, you know,
just start doing it. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
The the the reactions are really really funny. That are
as producer Ali there. Do you want to explain that
you were not trying to insult me when you said,
in fairness, it's not just a women's rose, it's a
gay man's rose too.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, I was coming to your defense. I was coming
to your defense. All my guy friends, a lot of
them who happen to be gay love Whispering Angel. They
bring it to all the dinner parties.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
But do you think most heterosexual men are like, hey,
you know what, all the gay men love the thing
that you did. I don't know that most heterosexual men
are like, oh that that that cleanses the attacks on
my masculinity that were levied so scurrilously by great word
there scurless by the way, by Kaylee mcananey.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
So a lot of rolling in there. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
I was Ali. Thank you for joining with us there
for seconds. I still have my job. I was gonna
say I was worried that people would be worried that
that Clay had instantaneously done a firing here. But no,
of course, of course not, of course, not a Whispering Angel.

(52:07):
Rose is owned by a massive conglomerate LVMH. Now I
did not know that. So they ever very cop by
the way, a good Rose. But really the issue is
is it's not that it was Whispering Angel Rose. It's
that it was Rose. My man. You know you went Rose.
I think that's alone. That's a Rose is like a

(52:28):
step away from getting a wine cooler. You know, you
might as well have ordered a zema at the Patriot Award.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I don't think I'm even knowledgeable enough to know enough
about wine to realize the faux pas that I was making.
I will say that Kaylee said we should drink this
one because it won't stain like your teeth. You can't
have like a dark red wine and show up and
you know, be doing a public event with wine stained teeth.

(52:57):
And so I thought that I was making a good
decision there she led me over the middle much like
happened here.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Well, and with your jacket and you spill the wine,
nobody will know with your pink jacket. I think that
was a sartorial snub. Yeah, she's lighting you up now though,
with your fake firing. I think I think whatever Alley
producer ally throws your way today, you you've asked for
the incoming, So we got to leave it there.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Uh VIP email from Dave. I give Clay a pass
on the wine. The gals were just ribbing him because
they find him lovably goofy. Don't need to get a
double Scotch meat to appear manly. It's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
There was no this is like your he Clays a
black coffee drinker, and I OK, I'll drink black coffee too,
but I don't understand why, Like it's if it's good
enough for Italy, it's good enough for me to have
a cappuccino in the morning. Sometimes, Like, what's the problem
with this? Some people? You drink what you want to drink.
Is my point. There's not really a I'm gonna tell
you something else. Beer, which people think of as manly,

(53:58):
gives you man boobs, guys. Real science there, true story.
Beer gives you man boobs. Beer is estrogen increasing, unfortunately,
so I've heard that is liquor two or just beer.
I think beer in particular, but I need to I
need to go to the groc on that one.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Is it the hops that make it like estrogen related
like higher levels?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Why, I'll find out. You just talk for a second.
I will continue to talk as buck specifically raises your
estrogen levels. I'm trying to find out why, which even men,
by the way, men have estrogen two. Beer increases estrogen
due to phyto estrogen content from hops and barley. Yes,

(54:43):
it's specific, so this is real. It's specific to the
molecular basis of the beer itself. So yeah, you're drinking
the anti testosterone when you're drinking beer. Couldn't have explained
that to people with Budweiser horses running back in the nineties.
True story, though, folks, True story.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I actually think that's the best argument that a liquor
company could make beer is drinking estrogen and assuming that
liquor doesn't have the same levels of estrogen. I don't
know what the date is, but I've seen that storyline before.
As as everybody is breaking that out.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Speaking of estrogen, can I throw something else out in
the mix for us for your conversation here about something
I just did you see Bill Ackman's advice on dating.
This has gone super viral. I'm very curious. We'll get
to some more of this tomorrow. Clay's gonna be out
super secret mission Clay. But Bill Ackman told young men
who he you know what, I think, I actually can

(55:41):
find the tweed really quickly. Bill. I hear here, I've
got it. Here we go. I hear from many young
men that find it is difficult to meet young women
in a public setting. This is billionaire investor guy Bill Ackman.
In other words, the online culture has destroyed the ability
to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would
share a few words that I use in my youth
to meet someone that I found compelling. I would ask, quote,

(56:05):
may I meet you before engaging in further conversation. Inevitably
enabled the opportunity for a further conversation a lot of
really interesting people, Clay, the internet has been ruthless. Yes,
with mister Ackman's may I meet you advice? Is this
surprising to you at all?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
It doesn't surprise me that the internet has destroyed a
rich billionaire who shared his social cues online and they
were quite a lot different than maybe most.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I think if you're a billionaire, I think you can
walk up to somebody and be like, I like you,
and that's it. You know, I think you're good.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Well, the girls probably know a lot of the billionaires
that are rolling around in rooms. I do think this question, though,
is one that is uh, that is something a lot
of young men are talking about, and I know young
women complain about it that they're not getting approached like
would have happened in the past. And I think it's
because young men. So this is my big thesis on this.

(57:07):
You guys can tell me if I'm wrong. I think
many young men have taken to heart the idea of
toxic masculinity and approaching women is seen now as in
their mind somewhat of an aggressive move, and so there's
less rejection involved when you just send somebody a message

(57:30):
on social media, and so I think it's just indicative
of a decline and overall face to face interaction, and
face to face interaction brings with it the possibility of rejection,
which is really really hard to accept, and I think
guys are afraid that not only are they going to

(57:51):
get rejected, that they're going to get made fun of.
I mean, trying to approach a group of girls if
you are a guy is insanely difficult because you, as
you're going to go approach, you think, oh, if she
shoots me down, all of the other girls are going
to uh, you know, they're they're gonna be making fun

(58:14):
of the attempt that I have made. May I meet
you is a really really ridiculous I think opening line
I would suggest if young men are out there, I
don't know you were on the bar scene a lot
longer than me. I think humor in an unthreatening way
is a good way to gauge the interest level of
a girl. If she doesn't have a sense of humor,

(58:36):
I'm just gonna say, you probably don't want to be
with her anyway. Like that seems miserable to me. And
so but if you go in with a sort of
lighthearted entry point, it isn't aggressive, like over the top.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Does that make sense to all the single guys out there.
Let me tell you one thing. Women like bees can
smell fear, and so when you go up to them,
the most important thing is that your attitude is that
you were effectively on a comic kaze mission. My friends,

(59:10):
this is all about the story you're gonna tell afterwards
about how slap down you got, how how mocked you
were or whatever. You got to just go in there
not care. I'm not saying try for that to happen,
and obviously be polite and be nice, But I just mean,
you gotta have no fear because they that's you are
you are you co signing when you're one hundred percent right?

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I mean, the way I think about it is like
being a batter in a baseball game. Most of the time,
even great hitter swing and make no contact. Like if
you are constantly obsessed with the fact that you're, you know,
probably walking unless you're you know, Matthew McConaughey or Tom Cruise.
I mean some of you are, you know, incredibly rich
and incredibly good looking. And I'm sure everybody listening right now,

(59:53):
and certainly this is always funny. Everybody on the internet
is always incredibly good looking, you know you somebody's got
a pretty old picks here and they're like, she's not
that good looking. It's like, this is pretty like Sidney Sweeney.
She's not that good looking as pretty Sweeney. She's mid
They said, she's mid. Hey, I guess if you're into,
you know, really good looking twenty five year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
But uh, but I could do better.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I think you just have to think of it as
as basically, you're a batter out up to and you're
gonna swing amiss a bunch and you might file one
off and it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
This is what you just If you're fearless, it's fine.
If you're fearless, guys, it's fine. Also the same way
you should go into interviews. You always for a job,
I mean now, you always want to go into the
interview like if I get it, I don't get it.
You know what, I'll figure it out. I'm gonna put
I'm gonna do my thing. I'm gonna be who I am. Nervousness, anxiety,
fear always unappealing, So just let it and by this

(01:00:50):
is why I'll tell you the like pick up artist
books that used to come out back in the nineties.
They're a bunch of that were very famous. A lot
of it what they're well, a lot of what they
teach guys to do. And let me say, there's a
lot of there's a lot of bad stuff about being
you know, very philandering with the women and everything, but
put that aside. They just want you to go up.
They tell you, just go up, and if you're not

(01:01:11):
talking to fifty women a day or something, and it's
not because you're gonna get fifty phone numbers. The idea
is to desensitize you to rejection, because once you're desensitized
to rejection, you no longer have fear. And once you
no longer have fear, when you approach someone, their energy
reflecting off of you is gonna be like, Wow, this
guy's just coming up and talking to me. Whereas if

(01:01:32):
you go up and you're like, excuse me goddess who
is far out of my league. That's not gonna work
for you even if she is. And by the way,
I have you know, I mean, I have made that
movie for a look at wh I'm married to. Sometimes
you got to take a swing for the fences. I
think also, it's a lot like sales.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
The reason why people who do sales are successful in
life is because they're willing to get rejected. Most people
hide and they fear fell you're more than they crave success.
And I think that applies there too. I will say,
Bill Ackmans, may I meet you line is so incredibly awkward.
I bet a bunch of guys are sliding in dms.

(01:02:13):
It's everywhere now and it's become a perfect yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It has actually become a perfect pickup line because now
everyone gets to be in all the joke. It's and
you know, Bill Ackman is being very he's having a
very good sense of humor about it. He's playing the
whole thing very well too, But it is it is
quite funny. The whole thing has really become very very amusing.
But people do lack that ice breaker initial skill. And

(01:02:36):
once you get, once you get good on that it
is a it is a secret way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Did you have a go to line at a bar
that you would try just to break the ice? Did
you have something that you found was now that you're married,
is there is there a tip?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Did you have a line it was? I was always
very I was always very situational. Uh so I would
just sort of find something. I usually would comment on
something in the environment that was going on in a
funny way and first sort of just get that, you know,
because we talk for a living, so we don't have
a lot of men cannot communicate very well as many

(01:03:09):
women out there are nodding along.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
At least we talk for a living. I had a
buddy who had really good success. He's married, now give
it out. He would go up to girls and he
would say, hey, I'm not the kind of guy to brag,
but I have health insurance. And that was a pretty
good ice breaking line because it's a ridiculous thing to say,
but it also is kind of like it worked really well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Did he wear cargo shorts with new balanced sneakers when
he pulled that line? Because that is a dad line
right there. I think that's a great line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I think that you can go with your credit score,
you know, or brag about your mortgage mortgage interest rate,
like I think these are these are things that work
well for the girls once you get a lot of
women have no idea what life costs until they're like
twenty four. So if you're talking to an eighteen year old,
they got no idea. Once you get to be like
twenty four, they start to recognize, Wait, it's really expensive

(01:04:02):
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