November 18, 2025 • 61 mins
An Exercise in Media Propaganda
Buck Sexton is solo hosting while Clay is away on a super secret trip overseas for a very important meeting, and he kicks off the hour with updates on the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which is set for a vote during the program. Buck explains why Democrats are pushing this as a political distraction and emphasizes Donald Trump’s stance: full transparency and release of all Epstein-related documents. The discussion highlights Trump’s past actions, including banning Epstein from his club, and contrasts that with deep ties Epstein had to prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton and Larry Summers.
Buck also addresses the media narrative and propaganda tactics, warning listeners about how focus and repetition are used to smear political opponents. He connects this to his upcoming book, Manufacturing Delusion, which explores the science and history of mind control, propaganda, and mass psychosis. Buck argues that Trump Derangement Syndrome has become a defining pathology of our time, citing expert commentary on how obsessive hatred of Trump has reached clinical levels. He draws parallels to authoritarian regimes and explains how manufactured hysteria threatens American democracy more than any external crisis.
Miranda Devine Blockbuster
An exclusive interview featuring Miranda Devine of the New York Post, who reveals shocking details about Thomas Crooks, the would-be assassin of President Donald Trump. Devine explains how Crooks’ online footprint—spanning platforms like YouTube, Gab, and DeviantArt—shows a disturbing evolution from pro-Trump rhetoric to violent anti-Trump threats, including assassination fantasies. She highlights Crooks’ use of aliases, his ties to extremist forums, and even gender identity confusion, noting his adoption of they/them pronouns and links to the “furry” subculture. Devine questions why the FBI and Secret Service failed to act despite clear warning signs, raising concerns about possible agency negligence or concealment.
The conversation pivots to Hunter Biden, after audio surfaces of him launching personal attacks on Devine, calling her unethical and insulting her appearance. Buck and Miranda dissect Biden’s behavior, emphasizing his inability to refute documented evidence of corruption involving foreign business deals and influence-peddling during Joe Biden’s vice presidency. The segment underscores the Biden family scandal, Hunter’s legal immunity, and the media’s complicity in shielding Democrats from accountability.
Government Theft
Adeep dive into illegal immigration under Biden, highlighting the estimated 10 million migrants who entered the U.S. during his presidency. Buck argues that this influx has strained housing, healthcare, and job markets, framing it as a massive economic and social burden on American taxpayers. He cites JD Vance’s remarks on housing affordability, explaining how unchecked immigration and limited housing supply have driven prices sky-high, especially in cities like New York where migrants occupy up to 25% of hotel rooms at taxpayer expense.
The conversation expands to legal immigration reform, with Buck and Governor Ron DeSantis stressing the need for a critical reassessment of current policies. DeSantis warns against the assumption that all legal immigration is inherently good, urging a focus on assimilation and cultural cohesion. Buck uses a striking analogy—too much water can kill you—to illustrate how excessive immigration, even legal, can destabilize a nation. He calls for a pause to restore continuity and shared American identity.
Eric Trump Joins the Show
Buck welcomes Eric Trump for an in-depth interview on the economy and Trump administration policies. Eric touts his book Under Siege and outlines why he’s “bullish on America,” citing Trump’s aggressive energy strategy, including nuclear and drilling initiatives, as key drivers of GDP growth. He explains how low energy costs, bonus depreciation, historic tax cuts, and tariffs will fuel manufacturing, AI, crypto, and inward investment. Eric contrasts Trump’s economic record with Biden’s “four years of 10% inflation,” blaming Biden for skyrocketing housing and energy costs. He predicts a booming U.S. economy in 2026, bolstered by global investment and trade deals.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Just Me today, mister Buck aka
the Buckster, aka the one hundred and three mile per
hour serve tennis man, as I'm known by many, Many
people are saying one hundred three miles an hour. Clay
is out this week. He is on a super secret
(00:22):
special mission. That is all I'm allowed to say. But
he's with his family, he's having a great time, and
he may may be calling in later in the week
from undisclosed places abroad to just say hi to everybody,
because he will miss all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But it is just me here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I have the calm, as they say, and I plan
on taking you on a wonderful journey here, a magical
journey of all of the news stories of the day
and the most important things that we need to be
thinking about, learning about and discussing here and to that end,
eight hundred two ay two to two eight A two
you A on the phone lines. Love those talkbacks on
the iHeart app as well. Our guests today, Miranda Divine
(01:03):
in the second hour, one of my favorite voices in
the world of audio. I will say that she's got
a great voice, great just speaking voice, and also a
fantastic reporter. More importantly, so she'll talk to us about
the New York Post reporting on the would be Trump
assassin who almost plunged this country into the worst situation
(01:24):
it would have seen since the Civil War. Missed by
an inch, a literal inch. I know some of your
say it was even less than an inch, but we
can say an inch. How is it that not everything
about this guy's online life was known? It seems unfathomable.
We'll talk to Miranda about that. We've also got Eric Trump,
son of one of these sons of the president, in
(01:46):
the third hour. We're talking about the economy, trade deals,
and much more. But I know that there's going to
be quite a bit of focus on this today, so yes,
I will certainly speak about what is being called the
Epstein Files Transparency Act that is going to be voted
(02:08):
on in the third hour of the show today. So
I believe I'll be here live with you on the
air as we find out where that's going. I think
the vote is going to be successful and there will
be more documents released relating to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
To be clear, Donald Trump has said in recent days,
(02:31):
including yesterday, that fine, and we want.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To release more, release whatever, release, whatever you got.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut for and Trump, I think, has just
recognized the only way to stop having to talk about
this is to give whatever transparency anyone thinks they need.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fine, no problem there, play four.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's just a Russia, Russia, Russia hopes as it pertains
of the Republicans. Now, I believe that many of the
people that some of the people that we mentioned are
being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein,
But they were with them all the time. I wasn't
at all, and we'll see what happens. What I just
(03:13):
don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great
success of the Republican Party, including the fact that the
Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown. You know, they
crossed our country hundreds of billions of those with that
had a lot of inconvenience.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So very important. At first of all, Trump has obviously
got a cold. Is the voice little raspy there? Or
maybe he was just speaking too much? I know that
can happen in the radio world, but it's funny. So
how many Trump is going to be eighty soon. I
know he's like seventy eight. I think'd be seventy nine maybe,
But how many times have you heard him being sick
(03:51):
in the time he's been president. It's very very rare.
The guy is a dynamo. Everybody around him recognize. I
just marvel at the amount of energy and focus and
drive that he has at his age.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It is true.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Whatever one thinks of Trump's policies, I obviously think they're
pretty awesome. It's incredible to be his age and to
have that level of energy and all the rest. But
what Trump said there, I think this is very important.
And notice he said, as it pertains to Republicans, the
Jeffrey Epstein thing is a hoax. And this is what
(04:27):
I think some people have missed and gotten a little
upset about, even some Trump supporters. Obviously, there's no the
Jeffrey Epstein situation. Trump doesn't think is a hoax.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sex criminal, a human trafficker, you know, an exploiter of
underage women. I mean, all these terrible things. But the
Democrats are trying to create a story and to use
the story for pure distraction purposes of Well, this it's
(05:00):
really about it's really about Trump or any Republican.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now I just saw you.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You had you know Larry Summers, who was the former
Treasury secretary under Clinton?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Right? Or is it Obama?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I can't rumber now it's been a while, but his
former Treasury secretary. I think he's stepping back after some
of these emails have come out. There's nothing, there's nothing
that is alleged that is criminal, but there are certainly
is stuff that looks bad for him. I think you
may see some more of that. What I think Trump
(05:36):
wants everyone to be very clear on is look at
the people who have continuous and deep associations with Epstein,
not who you know bumped into him at party. He
went to a lot of parties, a lot of parties
in Palm Beach's, a lot of parties in New York
and other places where he was gonna rub elbows. The
guy had hundreds of millions of dollars. He was able
(05:57):
to get tremendous access to the absolute elite in our society.
So that was happening. We all know that. That's a
matter of public record. Oh no, wonders was confusing for me.
Larry Summers served under both Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama's administrations.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was what was he? He was Secretary of the Treasury. Yup?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Under Clinton, I was right, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury,
and unders at whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Point is he's a big, big.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Guy in Democrat politics under Democrat administrations. Look at the
other figures who have gotten at least big pr damage.
And I know a lot of you are saying, well,
that's not you know that where we're looking for criminality,
the evidence of smoking government evidence of criminality, we don't
have that yet. We had it, I think you would see,
(06:45):
you would see charges, but at least I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We have to be very careful here too.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, people they're trying to smear Trump by association,
there are other people they want to smear by association too,
And this is the kind of stuff that could really,
in some cases unfairly destroy someone's reputation. So you got
to be sure. You got to be sure on this stuff, right.
This isn't oh, did somebody cheat a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
On their taxes. This is this goes to the core.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And the reputations and the freedom, meaning they could go
to prison of individuals. So that's I think not going
to be addressed by anything that are in this release.
I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll say so.
I obviously haven't seen all the files. I don't know,
(07:37):
but Trump has been making the point if there was
more in the files specifically about Trump, do you think
they'd hide it until now? That's a crazy belief, right
that the Democrats would have had full control, full ability
to go through this. They don't want to release it
all as it pertains to actual transparency, because they'd much
rather have little bits and pieces to try to insinuate
(08:01):
that Donald Trump did something wrong. And I have a
firm belief and all the evidence supports what I've said,
and all of the the trajectory of the revelations around epstein'support.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, in fact, you could argue Trump is the good
guy because he kicked Epstein out of his club for
being a creep?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did anybody else do it?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Was there anybody else who was stepping up and saying,
this guy's a you know? And that was before the
big criminal stuff against him. So that's where I think
this is. Here is Trump saying, just just to hammer
this home here, this has cut five He's just saying,
look the Democrat, Epstein's top connections, Epstein's close associates. I'm
(08:48):
not saying anyone did anything specifically, or I'm not naming
any individual with criminality because we don't have proof of that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You need proof of these things.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But the people who were gross and around him a lot,
they were Democrats.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Play five.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We have nothing to do with Fstein. The Democrats too.
All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this reduff,
and you look at Larry Summers built Lennon, they went
to his island all the time, and many of this
all Democrats. All I want is I want for people
to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing,
on affordability, because we brought prices way down, but they
(09:22):
go way lower on the energy. On ending eight wars
and another one coming pretty soon. I believe we've done
a great job, and I hate to see that deflect
from the great job we've done.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think that's all spot on. I think that's exactly
where the situation is right now. And to be clear,
Trump has said release it all, fine, release it all,
whatever it is. He's not opposing the release. He's like, fine,
release it all because he also knows, even if he
doesn't specifically know what's in those spots, he knows what
he did and didn't do. He knows he didn't do
anything wrong. Okay, and beyond that, he also knows that
(10:01):
his enemies who manufactured crimes against him manufactured them. They
would have, if they had anything, deployed this to destroy him,
even if there was a forget about a smoking gun,
if there was a sentilla of evidence that Trump was.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Even in the immediate vicinity.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Of any kind of you know, criminal conspiracy with regard
to Epstein, they would.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Have been running with that NonStop. They don't have it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They don't have it, so fine, we'll get to this point.
I do think it has been an exercise in media
propaganda by focus, as in how much they focus on
something itself is the propaganda tool. They focus so much
they try to connect to Donald Trump, and they did
before as well. Look at all all the top associates
(10:55):
of Epstein again associates slash friends. Not imputing criminality to anybody,
because we don't have evidence against these individuals, right, Trump
isn't saying that they were criminal. He's just saying they
were gross and they were around him gross as in,
they should have known that this guy was sleazy and
they spent too much time alone with him. I know
(11:15):
a lot of you you know, there's what we can
there's what you know, remember Denzel Washington and training Day.
There's what you know, and there's what you can prove.
We have to operate in the realm of what we
can prove if we're going to make a specific accusation
against an individual that would destroy them. Notice that's not
what Trump is doing. He's saying, listen to the names
(11:37):
of these individuals. We know they hung out with him
a lot. They're all Democrats, they're all big Democrat donors.
They're all very left wing in their politics, or generally
left wing in their politics. Certainly they're Democrats, and there's
no focus on that whatsoever. Bill Clinton spent a lot
of time with this guy on the planes, a lot
(11:58):
of time.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We know that. Okay, that's a fact. That's it, That's
an understood fact.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Larry Summers was asking this guy for advice on I believe,
like how he could step stepping out on his wife
with a a a Asian or Chinese uh Men mentee,
like a mentor mentee relationship who has a close relationship
(12:25):
with the CCP, with the Chinese Communist Party, as you know.
So there's there's the criminal, there's also just the unethical
and the sleazy these do you have to parse all
these things? And look, I hope we just get whatever
information we need to know everything about this that we
can know. And I'm gonna tell you this, I don't
(12:46):
think there's a lot that's in those files that's going
to be released. I have I think they absolutely should
be released at this point. Fine, Trump says this should
be released. Fine, And I think that anything that would
have been smoking gun has long it's been and I
don't even know at what part in the in the chain,
so to speak, but as long since been covered up
(13:07):
and erased and uh, you know, whatever the whatever the
tapes were, it's et cetera. All that I think has
has occurred here. So we have to we have to
be specific, we have to be clear. I also completely
agree with Trump that there must be a real degree
of frustration. There must be considerable frustration from his administration
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for the things that they are doing that affect all
Americans and Democrats get to play this, uh, you know,
Chase the shiny object game with Oh but look at
there's a there's a Trump Epstein email or something. Uh,
he knows. The shutdown was a disaster for Democrats. They're
used to winning those kind of battles, at least in
the public's view, because of the advantage they have with
(13:53):
propaganda in the media.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That didn't happen this time. Schumer.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Schumer looks like a schmo, and that's something that Democrats
weren't anticipating going into the midterm election year. But affordability, prices,
the border, the war on drugs, the war on fentanyl,
there's a lot that's happening right now that is really
really important, and I do think that is where we
should spend a good portion of our time today here.
(14:21):
But by all means, if you have something that you
want a weigh in with, you can let us know.
You can email us about this release of these files,
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All right, second hour of Play and Buck kicks off now.
And one of the great things about this show is
because we are in the middle of the day. Uh,
we have way, we have Miranda. Oh great, okay, great,
because in the middle the day we get breaking news.
But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here
(16:19):
with a phone call and she's making some time for us.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
She's very busy right.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now because she is right in the midst of these
revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda,
your piece up on the New York Post. I think
we've got a crosspost at clayanbuck dot com. It is
very important. Let's start with this. How sure are we,
(16:45):
how solid are we that this stuff about about Crooks
right now is true? That has been found online the
YouTube accounts like like go through a little bit of
the verification of that with us.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sure. This is from a sauce who is obviously very
tech savvy and has basically used open source searching of
where archives using some tools that private investigators have, but
not using law enforcement tools. And you know, a day
after Butler, YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks's account,
(17:23):
but my source managed to find old messages from there.
Now this was available to the FBI because we know
that the Deputy Director, Paul at back in July of
last year, a week two weeks after the Butler event,
he testified to Congress about this account with more than
(17:44):
seven hundred comments which we have which our source gave us.
And so you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found
seventeen online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to
using his own name, using a phone number of Thomas
Crooks that was publicly available, and his email addresses that
(18:08):
connected to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it
and is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks
where he wasn't one hundred percent sure, he said so,
But he used these not really aliases, but they're sort
of handles Cooks used on other social media like gab
(18:30):
and x. He used epic microwave. That's also what he
used on a site called debiant Art. The only time
he used an actual alias to sign up for an
account was with PayPal, and he used the name Rod Swanson,
which is the name of an FBI agent who a
former FBI agent from Vegas who was partially involved in
(18:54):
the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious mass shooting. I've talked
to him. Him knows nothing about it, doesn't have a
PayPal account, never never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't
even know how to set up a PayPal account. But
what he did tell me, because he's a very senior
former FBI guy, very seasoned, he said, it is inconceivable
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that a kid with this kind of online communications and
sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or
be on the radar of the FBR. So, you know,
other FBI people tell me the same thing. Some one
of them suggested that because August twenty twenty was when
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Thomas was at his peak violent rhetoric, talking about assassinating
political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using AR fifteenths,
which was similar to the gun that he used. And
just after that he goes dark. He just disappears off
all of these platforms. You just he's a ghost. But
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until August of twenty twenty. He's very prolific, and you
can see the trajectory of how he goes from you know,
age sort of fifteen sixteen, very pro Trump, you know,
like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats, anti
the Squad, anti Ilhanoma. And then something happens to him
(20:24):
in January twenty twenty. In the space of two months,
He's gone from rapidly pro Trump, he goes to rapidly
anti Trump. He's got flipped one hundred and eighty degrees.
And then his rhetoric gets more and more violent and disturbing,
and you know, people, it was so bad that there
were people online interacting him with him who were tagging
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the FBI and saying to him, hey, you know, you're
pretty dumb, like the way you're talking openly. Now it's
good because now law enforcement knows where to find you.
So it's hard to believe the FBI didn't have him
in their sight. But Christopher Ray, a week after Butler
testified to Congress that they had done a search of
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their database and found nothing before Butler. So that doesn't
necessarily mean that they didn't have any interaction. And I
think Christopher Ray knew exactly what he was doing when
he phrased it in that way, because I know that
during my Biden research that there was interactions with whistleblowers
(21:29):
about the Biden family influence peddling corruption, and that was
not visible to any average FBI agent looking in the database.
It was hidden away deliberately by certain road FBI agents
in a place where it could only be found by
people who needed to know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think it's so important everyone knows these details, because it's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hard to believe. That's one way of putting it, that
all this was out there and that as you've as
you said, from even FBI sources of yours, that this
would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an even.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Like lesser but also equally hard to believe component of
this to me seems to be that the FBI didn't
find this stuff, Like why, how is it possible that
your person, your source was able to find this online
but the FBI wasn't able to write there's the possibility
of being on the radar before the shooting and the
and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that, but
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how is it that we didn't know about this before?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is the FBI?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Are we to be told that they're that incompetent? That
is just it's mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI
isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean,
you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they
hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Date, the deputy
director under Ray, did testify that they had this account
with more than seven hundred for their YouTube account. So
I assume they have all of this and much more.
(23:08):
The question is why haven't they been more force coming,
particularly since Trump took over by When I contacted the
FBI about this story and asked them a number of questions, including,
I think the most important question, did you have any
interactions with Thomas Crooks before Butler? Did anyone tip you
(23:30):
off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him?
Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told
they should have knocked on his door? Did you do that?
What's the answer I get from Cash Betel's FBI No comment,
that's it. So I don't understand it. And you know,
someone else said to me, well, maybe it was a
(23:50):
Secret Service because in August twenty twenty, Donald Trump was president,
so they have would be the primary agency that would
go and knock on a door a threat to one
of their protectives. But the Secret Service gave me a
better response when I asked them, and they said basically
that this would be this would be something the FBI
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would do that even if they said they have no
record of crooks, they said now, but in any case,
this is an FBI responsibility. So I don't even think
it's as simple as for between the cracks between two agencies.
The FBI knows a lot, they have to know a lot.
(24:31):
Just how much I don't know?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And can I jump in with there's something that we
didn't know or at least it wasn't imported until this
week that this guy used they them pronouns and was
interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness.
How could that not have been brought forward if the
FBI was operating in good faith and had access to
(24:53):
this information.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yes, I mean it's very slim. I have to emphasize that.
But Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there
is a connection to this sexual fetish called furries, which
is people dressing up as animals or enjoying cartoon animal
humanized figures, having sex or being in sexual positions. So
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Thomas Crook, he's not shared any furry staff. Wele talked
about it, but he was frequenting and had two accounts
on a site called deviant Art, which is the major
sort of furry hub online furry hub, and it's sort
of for the furry community, and he doesn't share anything
(25:42):
like that. He does share this sort of bizarre image
of a very muscle bound, sort of Sylvester Stallone sort
of masculine body with a female head on top of it,
with a puny little guy next to it that looks
like him. That's sort of in a prostate. They're not dressed,
they're addressed in their underwear. So that's one. And then
(26:02):
other than that, sort of cartoon characters on this platform
that are violent, shooting each other in the head and
so on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they
them pronoun stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And he uses they them pronouns on debiant Art. That's
the first time we've seen that, so clearly some sort
of gender confusion or exploring gender identity again. I mean
that disturbing needs to explored because we've had so many
gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his
(26:35):
living Lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't
think it's enough for Cash Ptel say, oh he was
alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's
a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson,
It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson,
who also did an episode on this last week the
same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose job
(27:00):
is over sight of the FBI, and he has been
asking since day one for a whole lot of information,
including camera forensics, autopsy, other documents, and getting stonewalled, and
even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson was
very angry about the fact that in July, on the
(27:22):
one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena Cash
Ptel for the documents that he's been asking for. So
you know, we.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Will, we will have our team. Let's let's get Ron
john he may be listening right now. Let's get Senator
Johnson on here, because I want to talk to him
about this as well. Because we need to continue to
follow this and push for this. Miranda, this is all
so important and everyone should go read Miranda's piece at
the New York Post. Also her podcast podforst one. Yep,
(27:52):
go go check out her podcast before Before We Let
You Go. Though I know you've got a whole bunch
of hits today, tell me I want to let you
act to this. Honestly, you know, Clay and I really
appreciate your work, and we appreciate you as a person.
Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were always while you
reported on him. You would always say, look, he's kind
of a sad guy, and like, you know, he might
(28:12):
actually and I you always had some when you would
talk to us about this on the air, some degree
of sympathy for the guy, because I think you're just
a nice person. I had to play this because I
want you to react. Hunter Biden here said mean things
about you and Clay and I are ready to fight him.
Play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
There's no ethics in what you know, like someone as
horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of
her In terms of ethics, it does. I mean she
is you know, a and then and and that goes
for you know, you know, I mean daily mail and
you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're
(28:49):
hores for money. And you know she does it because
she makes money. And you know, when when she goes
to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just fine.
You know, I don't know anybody that's going to be
mourning her when she's going.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I think, well, we appreciate you. Everything you said is
a lie and he's a disgusting piece of trash. I
just do you feel like, oh man, you were too
nice to this guy. He's a horrible human being. He
truly is.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I still have the same impression of him that I've
always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's
lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he
never refutes a word I said and what I've written
and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the
pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll, that he doesn't know
anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe
(29:40):
it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes
any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that
he traded on his father's name, the fact that his
father was involved in getting him clients, and then he
put him on the speakerphone all that corruption during Joe
Biden's vice presidency to enrich his family. He doesn't, he
doesn't go into any of that and try and to
(30:03):
send himself. He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls
me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous,
and I think I just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he
should be in prison, as we all know, he should
be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because
of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda,
I think there were a lot of people on the
right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict,
and they try to give some sympathy. I think what
you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. Uh and
(30:34):
and I and I thought that all along. So, you know,
I just think he showed everybody what a piece of
garbage he is. And I'm just glad that you did
the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him that you did,
and that people knew the truth about the Bidens in
general and the Biden crime family. So and you know,
(30:54):
Claire and I are happy to have a word with
him outside the bar if we ever see him, you know,
after he says the mean things.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes, anyway, Miranda, you're the best. You're the best.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, and uh all right, people should go check out
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Speaker 2 (32:23):
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Immigration, big issue, very important, illegal immigration and legal immigration.
Actually conversations to be had about all of this right
now given the Trump agenda. The border, as he had
mentioned just a little while ago with the Saudi crown
(32:48):
prints in the Oval Office, border is very secure.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I don't know if it's the most secure.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You know, they got a pretty secure border between North
and South Korea, but you know, I get his point.
It's a very secure border now and compared to what
it was, it's a remarkable transformation, and we should never
lose sight of the fact that a secure border was
always possible, but the Democrats didn't want it, and in
(33:16):
fact chose to make it insecure, wide open. In fact,
that is what occurred, and Trump has proven that in
very short, very short order, within a few months of
taking office, it all changed. And so all those reporters,
all those Democrats who pretended under Biden's wide open border
(33:40):
policies that it was just beyond the capabilities of the
United States government to do something about it, they were
lying to you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They were lying to you.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Please do not forget that, because there's a lot of
work to be done still on immigration, the H one
B issue, which is about reforming a legal component of immigration.
But let's still stay focused here for a bit on
the illegal immigration issue. We had around ten million. We
don't even know the exact number. We don't know how
(34:13):
many came in under Biden. We don't know how many
are here total. Nobody does, and anyone who says otherwise,
again lyne due. So we had ten million come in
under Biden, which means there are illegals in this country
who have been here for a short period of time,
completely unvetted, no idea who they are, and we, the
American people, have had enough of this. Solid majority of
(34:34):
Americans want illegals who came here under Biden to be
sent back to their home country, which is a This
is a just outcome. We're not arguing in favor of
solitary confinement for ten years for every legal came here.
I understand vast majority of them not bad people at all.
(34:56):
They want a better life themselves than their kids. I
bear for those illegals, I don't bear them any ill will.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But they aren't allowed to stay here. There's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't have a problem with them as individuals, as
human beings. And I saw what the Catholic Conference of Bishops,
and you know, I'm trying to be more active in
my Catholic faith in the last couple of years, well
obviously coinciding as well with my son's birth.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think it is very important that he grow up in.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
A household that at some level is practicing It's Christian faith,
not just believing and not just knowing, but but active
in our church and Catholic Church at least in an
a Christian faith at a minimum. I saw what the
Catholic Bishops put out there, and it's just yeah, I
(35:48):
won't get into this now other than I think there's
a lot of work to be done inside the Catholic
Church and the way that it has been brought so
far to the left. These bishops have nothing to say
about abortion everywhere, at all times, on demand and in
blue states, and abortion and pro abortion politicians, and they
pro transagenda politicians and for trans kids. All this nothing
to say about that, only open borders. This is when,
(36:11):
this is when it's too far for them. Very frustrating,
very frustrating, because in a modern American society, as we
in our modern American society, presence equals the state giving
them things that they take from Americans that are rightfully
that rightfully belong to Americans, and that are taken from
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us under the threat of force. If I don't pay
my taxes, in fact, if I don't even if I
don't pay my taxes, I go to prison. If I
don't pay my healthcare premiums, I don't have access to
private healthcare, and I'm paying for all the emergency room
visits with my tax dollars for all these illegals they're
taking from there's a theft that occurs. A theft is
(36:54):
occurring on a massive scale by the presence of these illegals,
and it is a theft that people need to understand
in the most clear terms and that this must be
addressed by the administration. In fact, JD Vance, this has
cut twelve. So this ties into a lot, ties into
the jobs issue, ties into the tax issue, ties into
(37:14):
the housing issue. And here is JD Vance on the
issue of home affordability and illegals play twelve.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Why is that because we flooded the.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses
that ought by right go to American citizens. And at
the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to
begin with, even for the population that we had.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
So what we're.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Doing is trying to make it easier to build houses,
trying to make it easier to build factories and things
like that so that people have good jobs. We're also
getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,
and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividend.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No matter what Democrats say, no matter what these civilization
undermining pro illegal alien NGOs do and say, supply and
demand is a real thing. It's a real thing. When
it comes to the labor market, it's a real thing.
(38:18):
When it comes to the housing market, it's always real,
it's always operating. It's just a question of how much
state interference is there, how much subterfuge is there in
the market. But people need places to live, they need
to pay for them. The prices are being set. And
in this case here let me get let me give
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you just a particularly clear example, and this is short
term housing hotels New York City. I'm gonna be visiting
my family next week in New York. It has not
people keep even had people say to me like, has
Mamdani ruined it? Yet I'm like, well, he's not mayor yet,
so we gotta we gotta take a moment. You know,
it comes mayor think a little later. But here we
(39:04):
have New York City with its housing prices and it's
which are sky high. But also which is how Momdani
of course rode this issue into the mayor's office. But
then you have on top of that the hotels in
New York City. Hotels are wildly expensive. And I know
(39:25):
this because I'm looking at the hotel bills for next week,
and I went, oh, my gosh, hotels are wildly expensive
in New York. It was the case. I'm not sure
what it is right now, but in the last few
years that migrants at taxpayer expense, we're taking up twenty
twenty to twenty five percent. I think it was of
the hotel rooms in the five boroughs of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
New York City. That's a huge portion of them.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
When you take twenty five percent off the table for
those of us who are not government subsidized and not
having someone else pay for it, what happens.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Price goes up.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
More people want the same amount of goods that are there,
the price goes up. So if that applies in New
York City, and it most certainly does the same way
that the thirty percent of illegals using all hotel I'm
sorry all er visits right, the same way that those
(40:24):
individuals create longer waits and more expensive care for everybody
else supply and demand. There's always a cost. There is
no free lunch. I mean, some people have a free lunch,
but it's not free for everybody, right, somebody else is
paying for that lunch. That's why there can't be a
free lunch, someone's paying and it's you, and many of
us have become tired of how much of that is
(40:47):
going on when it comes to illegal aliens in the
millions in this country. And there's also the issue of
when do we have too many illegals and when do
we have too many recent arrivals for assimilation to function
the way that it needs to in any society. Governor
Ron DeSantis of Florida. And it's not just because I
(41:08):
live here. Look, Governor de Santis is a big part
of why I moved here because of what he was
doing in this state. He I think is the best
governor still in America. I've I've never experienced this before,
and I joke around with my family members about this.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I used to just always have to tell myself, I
live in New York, all right, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
The political leadership although there were some good mayors, There
were some good mayors, but at the state level, lot
of bozo, a lot of dumb stuff being done at
that are well. I still love New York, even if
the leadership is dumb. Now I'm in Florida and I
get to say, Wow, this is a great state. I'm
really enjoying my life here, and the leadership does smart
things that they should do, and they even think of
(41:49):
smart things to do that I hadn't thought of.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
That's what it is to be in a state.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
With intelligent, conservative, realistic, sane governance. Now, you know, some
of you really like Texas, you really like Tennessee, you
really like whatever in red state.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Governor you have some of you in Utah. Well, I've
heard it. I've heard.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I've heard some mixed reviews about how you feel about
your state governance. You love your state, but I've heard.
I'm just saying, we have a huge Salt Lake City audience.
I was out in Utah not long ago, and I heard,
you know, you love Utah, but the Utah leadership, I
hear some things a little mixed, a little mixed review.
But Desanti's weighed in on the illegal immigrant issue, and
(42:38):
here he is, and he's just saying something that needs
to be said. It is possible to take in too
many foreigners too quickly, and we need to be realistic
about that as a country, because at some level, a
country is an idea. It is lines on a map
that only can exist because there is a sense of
(42:59):
a political nation, family of people a bond that exists
between us as Americans.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It's a very complicated.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's really interesting thing, isn't it the notion of this nation, state,
of this American family, that you and I you know,
you may have grown up in Washington State, or you
may have grown up in Colorado and I grew up
in New York City, and that there's something that holds us.
There are things that hold us together. We have all
this shared belief, all this shared sense of destiny and
(43:32):
purpose as Americans.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
We have to.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Protect that and preserve that. It isn't just a guarantee.
In fact, countries fall apart. They have civil wars, they
have secession movements, they have breakages in that polity. The
Greeks would have called it right in that political family.
And Ron de Santis says, look, what if you bring
(43:57):
ten million people into people from Somalia into Georgia.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Would that be a good idea? Play cut eleven.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
You have some strain on the right the son and
no illegal immigration is bad, legal immigration, no matter what,
is good.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And wait a minute now.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I'm not saying any of its that it's all bad
or what, but is bringing ten million people from like
Somalia in dumping them into Georgia.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Is that good because it's legal.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
I think you have to think critically about what are
we doing with an immigration policy, and is it benefiting
the American people? Is it helping to promote a strong
American culture. We should never bring people into this country
who hate America.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
We have to be smart.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
It's lazy thinking to say anything that's legal must necessarily be.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Good critical And this is the next level of this discussion.
This is where this is all going.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
It's not just illegal immigration that needs a good long look.
We've had a lot of legal immigration. We've changed this
country faster with foreigners than at any time in our history,
more than the Ellis Island era, more than the period
of the of the settlers, more than any time. Okay,
we have had massive transformation. Now a lot of them,
(45:14):
A lot of people come here become great Americans. I
live here in South Florida. Hey, it's funny because I
through my study of authoritarianism and communism specifically, I just
have this inherent fondness and kinship with Venezuelan Americans and
Cuban Americans who are right wing and hate communism like
we just have. I just have this bond. I they
(45:36):
think how I think, and we so. Yes, it can
work and it's a beautiful thing, and it is part
of the story of American I get all of that,
but there has to be a real conversation about have
we done too much of this thing? You know, you
drink too much water, you die. You know that that's
a truth, that's a real thing. You can actually die.
You need water to live. Water is not bad. Too
(45:59):
much water too as guys. I think it's called like
hypa natremia or something. Check me on this one. But
it's when you get the sodium levels get thrown off.
It happens to elite athletes sometimes, and like super marathons
or ultra marathons. You could water can kill you if
there's too much of it, drinking it, I mean, obviously
you can drown in it, but drinking too much water.
It is possible that too much of what is otherwise
(46:21):
a good thing or a valid thing. Have we had
too much legal immigration too quickly in this country. This
is not to disparage anyone who's come here legally. We
love our American legal immigrants, and you know, but the
number has gotten really big, and we do have to
draw a line somewhere, and maybe it's time to like,
you know, cozy up with our fellow Americans for a
while here and have some continuity, some sense of assimilation,
(46:49):
some sense of our shared americanness. That that is a
because if you look at previous periods of migration to America,
there was a surge and then things calm down for
a while and we let things settle. There was surge
and then we get it is only in this era
where we've done. We're just blown the hinges off the doors.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Everyone's coming, everyone's coming illegally.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
You know, it's a free for all that it's supposed
to continue this way in perpetuity. Ron knows, Ron de scientists,
the governor knows, that's crazy. No country can be the
country it is if it continues.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
In this way. That's what I think.
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Speaker 1 (48:40):
All right, Welcome back in everybody. Eric Trump, who is
Executive President of the Vice President of the Trump Organization
joins us. Now, he's got a great book out Under Siege,
and it has been number one, number one for many,
many weeks.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
It's a great book. Highly recommend it to you.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Also the name of a wonderful movie, as we discussed
last time, Steven Seagal's best Eric. Great to have you
on the program.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
Well, last time you thought it was John Claude Van Dam,
But what was Steven Skall? Now, Uh, listen, we've come
along way since then. We were number one New York
Times bestseller. We're number one every week on Amazon. We've
We've done an unbelievable job. And this country's pissed off.
My friend, I think you know that better than anybody.
But this country is is severely pissed off. And uh
and I think that's why you know it ran the
charts as hard as it did and it's white so
(49:25):
doing as well as it is.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
I would tell you this, my friend, I think he
was play who messed up Jean Claude vend m and
H Steven Sagall because I would never never mess up
in our eighties action lore, that's a that's a clay.
I'm throwing clay right under the bus.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
I throw Clay under the bus. I'm pretty I'm pretty
sure it was Tolay.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I'm taking this whispering angel chardonnay drinking, you know, fancy
fellow throwing.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Him on the bus. Anyway, he sends his regards.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
By the way, he's on a he's on a super
secret mission which we will only be able to tell
the audience about I think later on the week.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
But he's abroad right now.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
But let me let me just ask about this because
you know, your dad today was President United States, was
in the Oval office with the Saudi Crown Prince, and
the questions from the reporters, and one in particular really
intended to just be attacks, not even really questions, you know,
very much in the when did you stop beating your
(50:19):
wife category of questions and President Trump but just had
just had enough.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I gotta say, I hear that.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
I see a lot of other people hear that, and
they think, yeah, I actually don't think the president should
sit there and just take abuse from journalists.
Speaker 9 (50:36):
Well, he's not good at taking abuse from journalists, and
he's he's certainly at the point in his life where
he doesn't need to. In fact, some of those interactions
are some of those comical interactions you'll you'll ever see.
And you know, and in the media always portrays themselves
as jokers. They have this entire time. I mean, look
at sixty minutes, right, look at look at Leslie Stall.
You know, you know, my father goes out, they're spying
(50:58):
on my campaign. They're not buying on your and then
sure enough, guess what we find out that they're buying
on the campaign. And look at you know, CNN every
single day, and look at the questions that they ask
and every single time they ask a question, Everything that
my father says is proven to be correct. And yet
they continue to go down these narratives, right, I mean,
look at the New York Times with their Pulitzer prizes
for the Russia hoax. It was a hoax. They you know,
(51:21):
they let it run for a three year period of
time and then it came out those a hoax. They
won't give back their Politzer prizes. But yet they've braided
my father every single day. Look at all the sham
indictments and trials in New York where every single day,
you know, they said my father was going to jail.
They said that, you know, he was good, he was
the worst human And guess what, every single one of
those lawsuits got got overturned, right, every single one of
(51:43):
those indictments got overturned in the court system. And so,
you know, the point of the narrative is our media
in this country doesn't have a whole lot of credibility.
The trust in our media in this country is single digits, right.
No one likes them, no one trusts them. They normally
conduct themselves like absolute fools.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
And it's why.
Speaker 9 (52:00):
American people don't like them. Don't watch him and his
white independent voice like yours is doing so well.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Well, you know, on this issue of the critics of
the administration of your dad and the team he has
around him in the cabinet, it's pretty remarkable to me.
You know, you run, You're the executive vice president of
the Trump organization. You've been operating in the world of
international business dealings and at a scale with you know,
(52:26):
big dollar figures, a lot of employees, a lot of productivity,
a lot of things going on. The voices that I
hear attacking Trump from the left, the Democrat Party, attacking
this administration on affordability, on things like housing, I.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Just have to laugh.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
These people you know, this is the AOC, Mam Donnie Wing.
They don't know a darn thing about how to build anything,
what it costs, what it means to actually create product
for people like homes to live in, and yet they're
the experts on this, I mean, this strain of Mamdanism.
It's just going to drive you nuts as part of
a family of builders.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
You know what it drives me to nuts is actually,
under Joe Biden, you had you know, four years of
ten percent plus inflation in this country, right. That means
every two by four at home depot was more expensive.
I mean, housing prices literally doubled. And that's because of massive,
massive inflation. Guess who that benefits. That doesn't benefit you know,
the lower middle classes. That benefits people that have assets.
(53:21):
And yet they're talking about affordability now, so you mean
to tell me ten percent compound in every single year.
You remember energy prices, you know, Bucky, you remember the
little stickers that said I did that and it's a
picture of Joe Biden's face, and everybody was putting them
on the gas prices. You know, gas pumps all over
the country. Right when energy costs became some of the
most expensive in history. When you know, America stopped exporting energy, right,
(53:45):
they became dependent on other countries for energy, even though
that we were totally energy sufficient under my father's first term,
and he gave it all away when he started banning
the Keystone Xcel pipeline and so many other projects. Right,
Biden caused that problem. Biden caused the inflation. Look at
inflation rates today under my father versus inflation rates under
(54:07):
Joe Biden. It's laughable that anybody could say that the
affordability crisis occurred under Donald Trump and not Joe Biden.
When you literally had the cost of everyday life go
up a compounding ten percent a year. It was over
forty percent over the four year period of time when
nominal wages were increasing like two percent a year. Right,
people are getting crammed down by twenty five, thirty thirty
(54:30):
five percent over that period of time where they were
losing grounds. The cost of everything was going like this,
and obviously wage growth was virtually stagnant. I find it comical,
to say the least.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Speaking of Eric Trump, Number one New York Time's bestseller
under Siege is his book, which I know so many
of you have gotten copies of it if you haven't,
makes a great present for the holidays. Eric, you know,
we're coming into the end of the year holiday season
and there's a lot of talk, like I said, about
affordability and people. I'm sure we're going to see the
news reports on Monday Tuesday about the cost of a
(55:04):
Thanksgiving dinner now versus obviously under Biden, the inflation for
these dinners was tremendous. Now Trump, your dad's bringing this
stuff down. But what is your You're having to operate
in the private sector in ways that you have tremendous
connectivity here at home and around the world. What's your
look ahead for the twenty twenty six economy here at home?
(55:24):
What are some of the things that you think could
really ignite the continuation of a lot of the growth
and a lot of the good policy that we've seen, Like,
what are you looking at for twenty twenty six when
it comes to the costs of things, pocketbook issues, all that.
Speaker 9 (55:41):
A buck. I've never been more bullish on the future
of AMERICAI. I mean, I mean that sincerely. You know,
if you look at what my father's doing on energy, right,
he wants energy, he wants these SMRs. He wants these
nuclear reactors, right, he's permitting them left and right. He's saying, drill, baby, drill.
He wants to have the cheapest energy in the world.
And why is that? Let me let me just explain
this to everybody. Energy costs are directly correlated to GDP.
(56:01):
The lower your energy costs, generally speaking, the higher your
GDP costs are, and you can track that for literally
decades and decades around the world. You keep low energy costs,
you're going to have high GDP. That's especially true when
you have things like like you know, the crypto industries,
the AI industries, industries that can transform, you know, be
transformational to an economy. Obviously, AI is that revolution. Crypto
(56:24):
in terms of digital finance is that revolution. Guess what
they need? They need energy? So does manufacturing. It needs
it needs energy. We've got more energy under our feet
than any country anywhere in the world, and we're finally
exploiting that again, which is an amazing thing for the
United States of America. That's what pulls costs down. You know,
they say about fifty to sixty percent of all inflation
is the cost of energy. Because for every egg, for
(56:46):
every gallon of milk for you know, guess what you
need to do. You need to transport that, and transport
and costs are expensive. And that's all based you know,
on oil and gas and ultimately energy. So we're solving
the energy. Second of all, look at bonus appreciation, right,
So my father put in one hundred percent bonus appreciation.
It means that every person who reinvested their company, reinvest
in their business, is able to write it off, you know,
(57:07):
day one, year one. What that's going to do in
terms of the contracting space, what that's going to do
with in terms of inward investing in companies in America
is going to be transformational. Third of all, look at
the you know, the tax plan. The largest tax breaks
in the history of our country were put in by
by my father. Right, that's going to be revolutionary for
(57:27):
American competitiveness around the world, you know, a business owners. Fourth,
look at the amount of inward investment that's coming into
our country. And look at what Saudi Arabia is doing.
Look at what all these countries are doing. Literally trillions
of dollars at this point, trillions and trillions of dollars
are coming into the United States and that's before you
even get to you know, he's going out to every
country saying, listen, aside from the fact I want you
(57:49):
to invest two trillion dollars in the US or trillion
dollars or eight hundred million dollars, I want you to
go out and I want you to buy two hundred
Boeing aircraft. Right. I mean, he's literally saving industries by
by what he's what he's doing. In fifth, you look
at you know, the tariffs. The tariffs are working. It's
hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that are flowing
back into this country based on tariffs, based on the
(58:09):
fact that everybody wants to and needs to trade with
the United States of America, which is by far the
world's largest economy at thirty two thirty three trillion dollars.
And guess what he's doing on the opposice side. He's
getting rid of all tariffs. He's getting rid of all duties,
which is allowing forward and allowing all the you know,
American companies to be able to export their product overseas.
(58:31):
The point of this story is, I've never been more
bullish on the United States ever before. There's confidence in
this country. There's respect around the world for the United
States of America. Everybody wants to be part of a dollar.
You see stable coins all around the world that are
pegged to the US dollar. Trillions of dollars are going
to come into our economy based on stable coins, based
on the growth of cryptocurrencies, which I believe in with
(58:53):
every aspect of my heart and soul. Are our economy
is going to boom? Are you going to have volatility?
Of course, you always have polatility in every economy, But
I think we are You compare America to Europe, it's
not even close. You compare America to just about any
other region in the world. Fuck, it's not even close.
We're doing all the right things, and we're doing them
(59:14):
quickly and smartly, and America is ultimately going to win
because of it. And there's never been a time in
my life where I've been more bullish on the United
States of America.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Eric Trump, everybody go get a copy of his book
Under Siege and Eric, thanks for coming by to hang out.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Good to see you as always.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
Thanks Buck.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah, Loo, I'm bullish on the economy too. I think
it's going to be a great things happening I also
want to save you money where I can right your
own personal economy.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
That's a good thing.
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Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Just Me today, mister Buck aka
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(00:22):
special mission. That is all I'm allowed to say. But
he's with his family, he's having a great time, and
he may may be calling in later in the week
from undisclosed places abroad to just say hi to everybody,
because he will miss all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But it is just me here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I have the calm, as they say, and I plan
on taking you on a wonderful journey here, a magical
journey of all of the news stories of the day
and the most important things that we need to be
thinking about, learning about and discussing here and to that end,
eight hundred two ay two to two eight A two
you A on the phone lines. Love those talkbacks on
the iHeart app as well. Our guests today, Miranda Divine
(01:03):
in the second hour, one of my favorite voices in
the world of audio. I will say that she's got
a great voice, great just speaking voice, and also a
fantastic reporter. More importantly, so she'll talk to us about
the New York Post reporting on the would be Trump
assassin who almost plunged this country into the worst situation
(01:24):
it would have seen since the Civil War. Missed by
an inch, a literal inch. I know some of your
say it was even less than an inch, but we
can say an inch. How is it that not everything
about this guy's online life was known? It seems unfathomable.
We'll talk to Miranda about that. We've also got Eric Trump,
son of one of these sons of the president, in
(01:46):
the third hour. We're talking about the economy, trade deals,
and much more. But I know that there's going to
be quite a bit of focus on this today, so yes,
I will certainly speak about what is being called the
Epstein Files Transparency Act that is going to be voted
(02:08):
on in the third hour of the show today. So
I believe I'll be here live with you on the
air as we find out where that's going. I think
the vote is going to be successful and there will
be more documents released relating to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
To be clear, Donald Trump has said in recent days,
(02:31):
including yesterday, that fine, and we want.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To release more, release whatever, release, whatever you got.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut for and Trump, I think, has just
recognized the only way to stop having to talk about
this is to give whatever transparency anyone thinks they need.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fine, no problem there, play four.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's just a Russia, Russia, Russia hopes as it pertains
of the Republicans. Now, I believe that many of the
people that some of the people that we mentioned are
being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein,
But they were with them all the time. I wasn't
at all, and we'll see what happens. What I just
(03:13):
don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great
success of the Republican Party, including the fact that the
Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown. You know, they
crossed our country hundreds of billions of those with that
had a lot of inconvenience.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So very important. At first of all, Trump has obviously
got a cold. Is the voice little raspy there? Or
maybe he was just speaking too much? I know that
can happen in the radio world, but it's funny. So
how many Trump is going to be eighty soon. I
know he's like seventy eight. I think'd be seventy nine maybe,
But how many times have you heard him being sick
(03:51):
in the time he's been president. It's very very rare.
The guy is a dynamo. Everybody around him recognize. I
just marvel at the amount of energy and focus and
drive that he has at his age.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It is true.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Whatever one thinks of Trump's policies, I obviously think they're
pretty awesome. It's incredible to be his age and to
have that level of energy and all the rest. But
what Trump said there, I think this is very important.
And notice he said, as it pertains to Republicans, the
Jeffrey Epstein thing is a hoax. And this is what
(04:27):
I think some people have missed and gotten a little
upset about, even some Trump supporters. Obviously, there's no the
Jeffrey Epstein situation. Trump doesn't think is a hoax.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sex criminal, a human trafficker, you know, an exploiter of
underage women. I mean, all these terrible things. But the
Democrats are trying to create a story and to use
the story for pure distraction purposes of Well, this it's
(05:00):
really about it's really about Trump or any Republican.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now I just saw you.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You had you know Larry Summers, who was the former
Treasury secretary under Clinton?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Right? Or is it Obama?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I can't rumber now it's been a while, but his
former Treasury secretary. I think he's stepping back after some
of these emails have come out. There's nothing, there's nothing
that is alleged that is criminal, but there are certainly
is stuff that looks bad for him. I think you
may see some more of that. What I think Trump
(05:36):
wants everyone to be very clear on is look at
the people who have continuous and deep associations with Epstein,
not who you know bumped into him at party. He
went to a lot of parties, a lot of parties
in Palm Beach's, a lot of parties in New York
and other places where he was gonna rub elbows. The
guy had hundreds of millions of dollars. He was able
(05:57):
to get tremendous access to the absolute elite in our society.
So that was happening. We all know that. That's a
matter of public record. Oh no, wonders was confusing for me.
Larry Summers served under both Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama's administrations.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was what was he? He was Secretary of the Treasury. Yup?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Under Clinton, I was right, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury,
and unders at whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Point is he's a big, big.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Guy in Democrat politics under Democrat administrations. Look at the
other figures who have gotten at least big pr damage.
And I know a lot of you are saying, well,
that's not you know that where we're looking for criminality,
the evidence of smoking government evidence of criminality, we don't
have that yet. We had it, I think you would see,
(06:45):
you would see charges, but at least I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We have to be very careful here too.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, people they're trying to smear Trump by association,
there are other people they want to smear by association too,
And this is the kind of stuff that could really,
in some cases unfairly destroy someone's reputation. So you got
to be sure. You got to be sure on this stuff, right.
This isn't oh, did somebody cheat a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
On their taxes. This is this goes to the core.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And the reputations and the freedom, meaning they could go
to prison of individuals. So that's I think not going
to be addressed by anything that are in this release.
I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll say so.
I obviously haven't seen all the files. I don't know,
(07:37):
but Trump has been making the point if there was
more in the files specifically about Trump, do you think
they'd hide it until now? That's a crazy belief, right
that the Democrats would have had full control, full ability
to go through this. They don't want to release it
all as it pertains to actual transparency, because they'd much
rather have little bits and pieces to try to insinuate
(08:01):
that Donald Trump did something wrong. And I have a
firm belief and all the evidence supports what I've said,
and all of the the trajectory of the revelations around epstein'support.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, in fact, you could argue Trump is the good
guy because he kicked Epstein out of his club for
being a creep?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did anybody else do it?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Was there anybody else who was stepping up and saying,
this guy's a you know? And that was before the
big criminal stuff against him. So that's where I think
this is. Here is Trump saying, just just to hammer
this home here, this has cut five He's just saying,
look the Democrat, Epstein's top connections, Epstein's close associates. I'm
(08:48):
not saying anyone did anything specifically, or I'm not naming
any individual with criminality because we don't have proof of that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You need proof of these things.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But the people who were gross and around him a lot,
they were Democrats.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Play five.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We have nothing to do with Fstein. The Democrats too.
All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this reduff,
and you look at Larry Summers built Lennon, they went
to his island all the time, and many of this
all Democrats. All I want is I want for people
to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing,
on affordability, because we brought prices way down, but they
(09:22):
go way lower on the energy. On ending eight wars
and another one coming pretty soon. I believe we've done
a great job, and I hate to see that deflect
from the great job we've done.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think that's all spot on. I think that's exactly
where the situation is right now. And to be clear,
Trump has said release it all, fine, release it all,
whatever it is. He's not opposing the release. He's like, fine,
release it all because he also knows, even if he
doesn't specifically know what's in those spots, he knows what
he did and didn't do. He knows he didn't do
anything wrong. Okay, and beyond that, he also knows that
(10:01):
his enemies who manufactured crimes against him manufactured them. They
would have, if they had anything, deployed this to destroy him,
even if there was a forget about a smoking gun,
if there was a sentilla of evidence that Trump was.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Even in the immediate vicinity.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Of any kind of you know, criminal conspiracy with regard
to Epstein, they would.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Have been running with that NonStop. They don't have it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They don't have it, so fine, we'll get to this point.
I do think it has been an exercise in media
propaganda by focus, as in how much they focus on
something itself is the propaganda tool. They focus so much
they try to connect to Donald Trump, and they did
before as well. Look at all all the top associates
(10:55):
of Epstein again associates slash friends. Not imputing criminality to anybody,
because we don't have evidence against these individuals, right, Trump
isn't saying that they were criminal. He's just saying they
were gross and they were around him gross as in,
they should have known that this guy was sleazy and
they spent too much time alone with him. I know
(11:15):
a lot of you you know, there's what we can
there's what you know, remember Denzel Washington and training Day.
There's what you know, and there's what you can prove.
We have to operate in the realm of what we
can prove if we're going to make a specific accusation
against an individual that would destroy them. Notice that's not
what Trump is doing. He's saying, listen to the names
(11:37):
of these individuals. We know they hung out with him
a lot. They're all Democrats, they're all big Democrat donors.
They're all very left wing in their politics, or generally
left wing in their politics. Certainly they're Democrats, and there's
no focus on that whatsoever. Bill Clinton spent a lot
of time with this guy on the planes, a lot
(11:58):
of time.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We know that. Okay, that's a fact. That's it, That's
an understood fact.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Larry Summers was asking this guy for advice on I believe,
like how he could step stepping out on his wife
with a a a Asian or Chinese uh Men mentee,
like a mentor mentee relationship who has a close relationship
(12:25):
with the CCP, with the Chinese Communist Party, as you know.
So there's there's the criminal, there's also just the unethical
and the sleazy these do you have to parse all
these things? And look, I hope we just get whatever
information we need to know everything about this that we
can know. And I'm gonna tell you this, I don't
(12:46):
think there's a lot that's in those files that's going
to be released. I have I think they absolutely should
be released at this point. Fine, Trump says this should
be released. Fine, And I think that anything that would
have been smoking gun has long it's been and I
don't even know at what part in the in the chain,
so to speak, but as long since been covered up
(13:07):
and erased and uh, you know, whatever the whatever the
tapes were, it's et cetera. All that I think has
has occurred here. So we have to we have to
be specific, we have to be clear. I also completely
agree with Trump that there must be a real degree
of frustration. There must be considerable frustration from his administration
(13:29):
for the things that they are doing that affect all
Americans and Democrats get to play this, uh, you know,
Chase the shiny object game with Oh but look at
there's a there's a Trump Epstein email or something. Uh,
he knows. The shutdown was a disaster for Democrats. They're
used to winning those kind of battles, at least in
the public's view, because of the advantage they have with
(13:53):
propaganda in the media.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That didn't happen this time. Schumer.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Schumer looks like a schmo, and that's something that Democrats
weren't anticipating going into the midterm election year. But affordability, prices,
the border, the war on drugs, the war on fentanyl,
there's a lot that's happening right now that is really
really important, and I do think that is where we
should spend a good portion of our time today here.
(14:21):
But by all means, if you have something that you
want a weigh in with, you can let us know.
You can email us about this release of these files,
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All right, second hour of Play and Buck kicks off now.
And one of the great things about this show is
because we are in the middle of the day. Uh,
we have way, we have Miranda. Oh great, okay, great,
because in the middle the day we get breaking news.
But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here
(16:19):
with a phone call and she's making some time for us.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
She's very busy right.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now because she is right in the midst of these
revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda,
your piece up on the New York Post. I think
we've got a crosspost at clayanbuck dot com. It is
very important. Let's start with this. How sure are we,
(16:45):
how solid are we that this stuff about about Crooks
right now is true? That has been found online the
YouTube accounts like like go through a little bit of
the verification of that with us.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sure. This is from a sauce who is obviously very
tech savvy and has basically used open source searching of
where archives using some tools that private investigators have, but
not using law enforcement tools. And you know, a day
after Butler, YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks's account,
(17:23):
but my source managed to find old messages from there.
Now this was available to the FBI because we know
that the Deputy Director, Paul at back in July of
last year, a week two weeks after the Butler event,
he testified to Congress about this account with more than
(17:44):
seven hundred comments which we have which our source gave us.
And so you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found
seventeen online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to
using his own name, using a phone number of Thomas
Crooks that was publicly available, and his email addresses that
(18:08):
connected to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it
and is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks
where he wasn't one hundred percent sure, he said so,
But he used these not really aliases, but they're sort
of handles Cooks used on other social media like gab
(18:30):
and x. He used epic microwave. That's also what he
used on a site called debiant Art. The only time
he used an actual alias to sign up for an
account was with PayPal, and he used the name Rod Swanson,
which is the name of an FBI agent who a
former FBI agent from Vegas who was partially involved in
(18:54):
the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious mass shooting. I've talked
to him. Him knows nothing about it, doesn't have a
PayPal account, never never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't
even know how to set up a PayPal account. But
what he did tell me, because he's a very senior
former FBI guy, very seasoned, he said, it is inconceivable
(19:18):
that a kid with this kind of online communications and
sort of violent rhetoric would not have been visited or
be on the radar of the FBR. So, you know,
other FBI people tell me the same thing. Some one
of them suggested that because August twenty twenty was when
(19:40):
Thomas was at his peak violent rhetoric, talking about assassinating
political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using AR fifteenths,
which was similar to the gun that he used. And
just after that he goes dark. He just disappears off
all of these platforms. You just he's a ghost. But
(20:03):
until August of twenty twenty. He's very prolific, and you
can see the trajectory of how he goes from you know,
age sort of fifteen sixteen, very pro Trump, you know,
like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats, anti
the Squad, anti Ilhanoma. And then something happens to him
(20:24):
in January twenty twenty. In the space of two months,
He's gone from rapidly pro Trump, he goes to rapidly
anti Trump. He's got flipped one hundred and eighty degrees.
And then his rhetoric gets more and more violent and disturbing,
and you know, people, it was so bad that there
were people online interacting him with him who were tagging
(20:46):
the FBI and saying to him, hey, you know, you're
pretty dumb, like the way you're talking openly. Now it's
good because now law enforcement knows where to find you.
So it's hard to believe the FBI didn't have him
in their sight. But Christopher Ray, a week after Butler
testified to Congress that they had done a search of
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their database and found nothing before Butler. So that doesn't
necessarily mean that they didn't have any interaction. And I
think Christopher Ray knew exactly what he was doing when
he phrased it in that way, because I know that
during my Biden research that there was interactions with whistleblowers
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about the Biden family influence peddling corruption, and that was
not visible to any average FBI agent looking in the database.
It was hidden away deliberately by certain road FBI agents
in a place where it could only be found by
people who needed to know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think it's so important everyone knows these details, because it's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hard to believe. That's one way of putting it, that
all this was out there and that as you've as
you said, from even FBI sources of yours, that this
would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an even.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Like lesser but also equally hard to believe component of
this to me seems to be that the FBI didn't
find this stuff, Like why, how is it possible that
your person, your source was able to find this online
but the FBI wasn't able to write there's the possibility
of being on the radar before the shooting and the
and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that, but
(22:36):
how is it that we didn't know about this before?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is the FBI?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Are we to be told that they're that incompetent? That
is just it's mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI
isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean,
you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they
hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Date, the deputy
director under Ray, did testify that they had this account
with more than seven hundred for their YouTube account. So
I assume they have all of this and much more.
(23:08):
The question is why haven't they been more force coming,
particularly since Trump took over by When I contacted the
FBI about this story and asked them a number of questions, including,
I think the most important question, did you have any
interactions with Thomas Crooks before Butler? Did anyone tip you
(23:30):
off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him?
Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told
they should have knocked on his door? Did you do that?
What's the answer I get from Cash Betel's FBI No comment,
that's it. So I don't understand it. And you know,
someone else said to me, well, maybe it was a
(23:50):
Secret Service because in August twenty twenty, Donald Trump was president,
so they have would be the primary agency that would
go and knock on a door a threat to one
of their protectives. But the Secret Service gave me a
better response when I asked them, and they said basically
that this would be this would be something the FBI
(24:10):
would do that even if they said they have no
record of crooks, they said now, but in any case,
this is an FBI responsibility. So I don't even think
it's as simple as for between the cracks between two agencies.
The FBI knows a lot, they have to know a lot.
(24:31):
Just how much I don't know?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And can I jump in with there's something that we
didn't know or at least it wasn't imported until this
week that this guy used they them pronouns and was
interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness.
How could that not have been brought forward if the
FBI was operating in good faith and had access to
(24:53):
this information.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yes, I mean it's very slim. I have to emphasize that.
But Tyler Robinson, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there
is a connection to this sexual fetish called furries, which
is people dressing up as animals or enjoying cartoon animal
humanized figures, having sex or being in sexual positions. So
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Thomas Crook, he's not shared any furry staff. Wele talked
about it, but he was frequenting and had two accounts
on a site called deviant Art, which is the major
sort of furry hub online furry hub, and it's sort
of for the furry community, and he doesn't share anything
(25:42):
like that. He does share this sort of bizarre image
of a very muscle bound, sort of Sylvester Stallone sort
of masculine body with a female head on top of it,
with a puny little guy next to it that looks
like him. That's sort of in a prostate. They're not dressed,
they're addressed in their underwear. So that's one. And then
(26:02):
other than that, sort of cartoon characters on this platform
that are violent, shooting each other in the head and
so on.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they
them pronoun stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And he uses they them pronouns on debiant Art. That's
the first time we've seen that, so clearly some sort
of gender confusion or exploring gender identity again. I mean
that disturbing needs to explored because we've had so many
gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his
(26:35):
living Lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't
think it's enough for Cash Ptel say, oh he was
alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's
a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson,
It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson,
who also did an episode on this last week the
same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose job
(27:00):
is over sight of the FBI, and he has been
asking since day one for a whole lot of information,
including camera forensics, autopsy, other documents, and getting stonewalled, and
even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson was
very angry about the fact that in July, on the
(27:22):
one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena Cash
Ptel for the documents that he's been asking for. So
you know, we.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Will, we will have our team. Let's let's get Ron
john he may be listening right now. Let's get Senator
Johnson on here, because I want to talk to him
about this as well. Because we need to continue to
follow this and push for this. Miranda, this is all
so important and everyone should go read Miranda's piece at
the New York Post. Also her podcast podforst one. Yep,
(27:52):
go go check out her podcast before Before We Let
You Go. Though I know you've got a whole bunch
of hits today, tell me I want to let you
act to this. Honestly, you know, Clay and I really
appreciate your work, and we appreciate you as a person.
Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were always while you
reported on him. You would always say, look, he's kind
of a sad guy, and like, you know, he might
(28:12):
actually and I you always had some when you would
talk to us about this on the air, some degree
of sympathy for the guy, because I think you're just
a nice person. I had to play this because I
want you to react. Hunter Biden here said mean things
about you and Clay and I are ready to fight him.
Play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
There's no ethics in what you know, like someone as
horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of
her In terms of ethics, it does. I mean she
is you know, a and then and and that goes
for you know, you know, I mean daily mail and
you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're
(28:49):
hores for money. And you know she does it because
she makes money. And you know, when when she goes
to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just fine.
You know, I don't know anybody that's going to be
mourning her when she's going.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I think, well, we appreciate you. Everything you said is
a lie and he's a disgusting piece of trash. I
just do you feel like, oh man, you were too
nice to this guy. He's a horrible human being. He
truly is.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I still have the same impression of him that I've
always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's
lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he
never refutes a word I said and what I've written
and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the
pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll, that he doesn't know
anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe
(29:40):
it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes
any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that
he traded on his father's name, the fact that his
father was involved in getting him clients, and then he
put him on the speakerphone all that corruption during Joe
Biden's vice presidency to enrich his family. He doesn't, he
doesn't go into any of that and try and to
(30:03):
send himself. He just attacks my appearance and hilariously calls
me a whore. So, I mean, you know, it's ridiculous,
and I think I just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he
should be in prison, as we all know, he should
be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because
of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda,
I think there were a lot of people on the
right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict,
and they try to give some sympathy. I think what
you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. Uh and
(30:34):
and I and I thought that all along. So, you know,
I just think he showed everybody what a piece of
garbage he is. And I'm just glad that you did
the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him that you did,
and that people knew the truth about the Bidens in
general and the Biden crime family. So and you know,
(30:54):
Claire and I are happy to have a word with
him outside the bar if we ever see him, you know,
after he says the mean things.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes, anyway, Miranda, you're the best. You're the best.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, and uh all right, people should go check out
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Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Immigration, big issue, very important, illegal immigration and legal immigration.
Actually conversations to be had about all of this right
now given the Trump agenda. The border, as he had
mentioned just a little while ago with the Saudi crown
(32:48):
prints in the Oval Office, border is very secure.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I don't know if it's the most secure.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You know, they got a pretty secure border between North
and South Korea, but you know, I get his point.
It's a very secure border now and compared to what
it was, it's a remarkable transformation, and we should never
lose sight of the fact that a secure border was
always possible, but the Democrats didn't want it, and in
(33:16):
fact chose to make it insecure, wide open. In fact,
that is what occurred, and Trump has proven that in
very short, very short order, within a few months of
taking office, it all changed. And so all those reporters,
all those Democrats who pretended under Biden's wide open border
(33:40):
policies that it was just beyond the capabilities of the
United States government to do something about it, they were
lying to you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They were lying to you.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Please do not forget that, because there's a lot of
work to be done still on immigration, the H one
B issue, which is about reforming a legal component of immigration.
But let's still stay focused here for a bit on
the illegal immigration issue. We had around ten million. We
don't even know the exact number. We don't know how
(34:13):
many came in under Biden. We don't know how many
are here total. Nobody does, and anyone who says otherwise,
again lyne due. So we had ten million come in
under Biden, which means there are illegals in this country
who have been here for a short period of time,
completely unvetted, no idea who they are, and we, the
American people, have had enough of this. Solid majority of
(34:34):
Americans want illegals who came here under Biden to be
sent back to their home country, which is a This
is a just outcome. We're not arguing in favor of
solitary confinement for ten years for every legal came here.
I understand vast majority of them not bad people at all.
(34:56):
They want a better life themselves than their kids. I
bear for those illegals, I don't bear them any ill will.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But they aren't allowed to stay here. There's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't have a problem with them as individuals, as
human beings. And I saw what the Catholic Conference of Bishops,
and you know, I'm trying to be more active in
my Catholic faith in the last couple of years, well
obviously coinciding as well with my son's birth.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think it is very important that he grow up in.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
A household that at some level is practicing It's Christian faith,
not just believing and not just knowing, but but active
in our church and Catholic Church at least in an
a Christian faith at a minimum. I saw what the
Catholic Bishops put out there, and it's just yeah, I
(35:48):
won't get into this now other than I think there's
a lot of work to be done inside the Catholic
Church and the way that it has been brought so
far to the left. These bishops have nothing to say
about abortion everywhere, at all times, on demand and in
blue states, and abortion and pro abortion politicians, and they
pro transagenda politicians and for trans kids. All this nothing
to say about that, only open borders. This is when,
(36:11):
this is when it's too far for them. Very frustrating,
very frustrating, because in a modern American society, as we
in our modern American society, presence equals the state giving
them things that they take from Americans that are rightfully
that rightfully belong to Americans, and that are taken from
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us under the threat of force. If I don't pay
my taxes, in fact, if I don't even if I
don't pay my taxes, I go to prison. If I
don't pay my healthcare premiums, I don't have access to
private healthcare, and I'm paying for all the emergency room
visits with my tax dollars for all these illegals they're
taking from there's a theft that occurs. A theft is
(36:54):
occurring on a massive scale by the presence of these illegals,
and it is a theft that people need to understand
in the most clear terms and that this must be
addressed by the administration. In fact, JD Vance, this has
cut twelve. So this ties into a lot, ties into
the jobs issue, ties into the tax issue, ties into
(37:14):
the housing issue. And here is JD Vance on the
issue of home affordability and illegals play twelve.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Why is that because we flooded the.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Country with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses
that ought by right go to American citizens. And at
the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to
begin with, even for the population that we had.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
So what we're.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Doing is trying to make it easier to build houses,
trying to make it easier to build factories and things
like that so that people have good jobs. We're also
getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,
and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividend.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
No matter what Democrats say, no matter what these civilization
undermining pro illegal alien NGOs do and say, supply and
demand is a real thing. It's a real thing. When
it comes to the labor market, it's a real thing.
(38:18):
When it comes to the housing market, it's always real,
it's always operating. It's just a question of how much
state interference is there, how much subterfuge is there in
the market. But people need places to live, they need
to pay for them. The prices are being set. And
in this case here let me get let me give
(38:40):
you just a particularly clear example, and this is short
term housing hotels New York City. I'm gonna be visiting
my family next week in New York. It has not
people keep even had people say to me like, has
Mamdani ruined it? Yet I'm like, well, he's not mayor yet,
so we gotta we gotta take a moment. You know,
it comes mayor think a little later. But here we
(39:04):
have New York City with its housing prices and it's
which are sky high. But also which is how Momdani
of course rode this issue into the mayor's office. But
then you have on top of that the hotels in
New York City. Hotels are wildly expensive. And I know
(39:25):
this because I'm looking at the hotel bills for next week,
and I went, oh, my gosh, hotels are wildly expensive
in New York. It was the case. I'm not sure
what it is right now, but in the last few
years that migrants at taxpayer expense, we're taking up twenty
twenty to twenty five percent. I think it was of
the hotel rooms in the five boroughs of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
New York City. That's a huge portion of them.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
When you take twenty five percent off the table for
those of us who are not government subsidized and not
having someone else pay for it, what happens.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Price goes up.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
More people want the same amount of goods that are there,
the price goes up. So if that applies in New
York City, and it most certainly does the same way
that the thirty percent of illegals using all hotel I'm
sorry all er visits right, the same way that those
(40:24):
individuals create longer waits and more expensive care for everybody
else supply and demand. There's always a cost. There is
no free lunch. I mean, some people have a free lunch,
but it's not free for everybody, right, somebody else is
paying for that lunch. That's why there can't be a
free lunch, someone's paying and it's you, and many of
us have become tired of how much of that is
(40:47):
going on when it comes to illegal aliens in the
millions in this country. And there's also the issue of
when do we have too many illegals and when do
we have too many recent arrivals for assimilation to function
the way that it needs to in any society. Governor
Ron DeSantis of Florida. And it's not just because I
(41:08):
live here. Look, Governor de Santis is a big part
of why I moved here because of what he was
doing in this state. He I think is the best
governor still in America. I've I've never experienced this before,
and I joke around with my family members about this.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I used to just always have to tell myself, I
live in New York, all right, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
The political leadership although there were some good mayors, There
were some good mayors, but at the state level, lot
of bozo, a lot of dumb stuff being done at
that are well. I still love New York, even if
the leadership is dumb. Now I'm in Florida and I
get to say, Wow, this is a great state. I'm
really enjoying my life here, and the leadership does smart
things that they should do, and they even think of
(41:49):
smart things to do that I hadn't thought of.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
That's what it is to be in a state.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
With intelligent, conservative, realistic, sane governance. Now, you know, some
of you really like Texas, you really like Tennessee, you
really like whatever in red state.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Governor you have some of you in Utah. Well, I've
heard it. I've heard.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I've heard some mixed reviews about how you feel about
your state governance. You love your state, but I've heard.
I'm just saying, we have a huge Salt Lake City audience.
I was out in Utah not long ago, and I heard,
you know, you love Utah, but the Utah leadership, I
hear some things a little mixed, a little mixed review.
But Desanti's weighed in on the illegal immigrant issue, and
(42:38):
here he is, and he's just saying something that needs
to be said. It is possible to take in too
many foreigners too quickly, and we need to be realistic
about that as a country, because at some level, a
country is an idea. It is lines on a map
that only can exist because there is a sense of
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a political nation, family of people a bond that exists
between us as Americans.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It's a very complicated.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's really interesting thing, isn't it the notion of this nation, state,
of this American family, that you and I you know,
you may have grown up in Washington State, or you
may have grown up in Colorado and I grew up
in New York City, and that there's something that holds us.
There are things that hold us together. We have all
this shared belief, all this shared sense of destiny and
(43:32):
purpose as Americans.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
We have to.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Protect that and preserve that. It isn't just a guarantee.
In fact, countries fall apart. They have civil wars, they
have secession movements, they have breakages in that polity. The
Greeks would have called it right in that political family.
And Ron de Santis says, look, what if you bring
(43:57):
ten million people into people from Somalia into Georgia.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Would that be a good idea? Play cut eleven.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
You have some strain on the right the son and
no illegal immigration is bad, legal immigration, no matter what,
is good.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And wait a minute now.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I'm not saying any of its that it's all bad
or what, but is bringing ten million people from like
Somalia in dumping them into Georgia.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Is that good because it's legal.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
I think you have to think critically about what are
we doing with an immigration policy, and is it benefiting
the American people? Is it helping to promote a strong
American culture. We should never bring people into this country
who hate America.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
We have to be smart.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
It's lazy thinking to say anything that's legal must necessarily be.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Good critical And this is the next level of this discussion.
This is where this is all going.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
It's not just illegal immigration that needs a good long look.
We've had a lot of legal immigration. We've changed this
country faster with foreigners than at any time in our history,
more than the Ellis Island era, more than the period
of the of the settlers, more than any time. Okay,
we have had massive transformation. Now a lot of them,
(45:14):
A lot of people come here become great Americans. I
live here in South Florida. Hey, it's funny because I
through my study of authoritarianism and communism specifically, I just
have this inherent fondness and kinship with Venezuelan Americans and
Cuban Americans who are right wing and hate communism like
we just have. I just have this bond. I they
(45:36):
think how I think, and we so. Yes, it can
work and it's a beautiful thing, and it is part
of the story of American I get all of that,
but there has to be a real conversation about have
we done too much of this thing? You know, you
drink too much water, you die. You know that that's
a truth, that's a real thing. You can actually die.
You need water to live. Water is not bad. Too
(45:59):
much water too as guys. I think it's called like
hypa natremia or something. Check me on this one. But
it's when you get the sodium levels get thrown off.
It happens to elite athletes sometimes, and like super marathons
or ultra marathons. You could water can kill you if
there's too much of it, drinking it, I mean, obviously
you can drown in it, but drinking too much water.
It is possible that too much of what is otherwise
(46:21):
a good thing or a valid thing. Have we had
too much legal immigration too quickly in this country. This
is not to disparage anyone who's come here legally. We
love our American legal immigrants, and you know, but the
number has gotten really big, and we do have to
draw a line somewhere, and maybe it's time to like,
you know, cozy up with our fellow Americans for a
while here and have some continuity, some sense of assimilation,
(46:49):
some sense of our shared americanness. That that is a
because if you look at previous periods of migration to America,
there was a surge and then things calm down for
a while and we let things settle. There was surge
and then we get it is only in this era
where we've done. We're just blown the hinges off the doors.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Everyone's coming, everyone's coming illegally.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
You know, it's a free for all that it's supposed
to continue this way in perpetuity. Ron knows, Ron de scientists,
the governor knows, that's crazy. No country can be the
country it is if it continues.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
In this way. That's what I think.
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Times bestseller. We're number one every week on Amazon. We've
We've done an unbelievable job. And this country's pissed off.
My friend, I think you know that better than anybody.
But this country is is severely pissed off. And uh
and I think that's why you know it ran the
charts as hard as it did and it's white so
(49:25):
doing as well as it is.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
I would tell you this, my friend, I think he
was play who messed up Jean Claude vend m and
H Steven Sagall because I would never never mess up
in our eighties action lore, that's a that's a clay.
I'm throwing clay right under the bus.
Speaker 9 (49:40):
I throw Clay under the bus. I'm pretty I'm pretty
sure it was Tolay.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I'm taking this whispering angel chardonnay drinking, you know, fancy
fellow throwing.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Him on the bus. Anyway, he sends his regards.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
By the way, he's on a he's on a super
secret mission which we will only be able to tell
the audience about I think later on the week.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
But he's abroad right now.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
But let me let me just ask about this because
you know, your dad today was President United States, was
in the Oval office with the Saudi Crown Prince, and
the questions from the reporters, and one in particular really
intended to just be attacks, not even really questions, you know,
very much in the when did you stop beating your
(50:19):
wife category of questions and President Trump but just had
just had enough.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I gotta say, I hear that.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
I see a lot of other people hear that, and
they think, yeah, I actually don't think the president should
sit there and just take abuse from journalists.
Speaker 9 (50:36):
Well, he's not good at taking abuse from journalists, and
he's he's certainly at the point in his life where
he doesn't need to. In fact, some of those interactions
are some of those comical interactions you'll you'll ever see.
And you know, and in the media always portrays themselves
as jokers. They have this entire time. I mean, look
at sixty minutes, right, look at look at Leslie Stall.
You know, you know, my father goes out, they're spying
(50:58):
on my campaign. They're not buying on your and then
sure enough, guess what we find out that they're buying
on the campaign. And look at you know, CNN every
single day, and look at the questions that they ask
and every single time they ask a question, Everything that
my father says is proven to be correct. And yet
they continue to go down these narratives, right, I mean,
look at the New York Times with their Pulitzer prizes
for the Russia hoax. It was a hoax. They you know,
(51:21):
they let it run for a three year period of
time and then it came out those a hoax. They
won't give back their Politzer prizes. But yet they've braided
my father every single day. Look at all the sham
indictments and trials in New York where every single day,
you know, they said my father was going to jail.
They said that, you know, he was good, he was
the worst human And guess what, every single one of
those lawsuits got got overturned, right, every single one of
(51:43):
those indictments got overturned in the court system. And so,
you know, the point of the narrative is our media
in this country doesn't have a whole lot of credibility.
The trust in our media in this country is single digits, right.
No one likes them, no one trusts them. They normally
conduct themselves like absolute fools.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
And it's why.
Speaker 9 (52:00):
American people don't like them. Don't watch him and his
white independent voice like yours is doing so well.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Well, you know, on this issue of the critics of
the administration of your dad and the team he has
around him in the cabinet, it's pretty remarkable to me.
You know, you run, You're the executive vice president of
the Trump organization. You've been operating in the world of
international business dealings and at a scale with you know,
(52:26):
big dollar figures, a lot of employees, a lot of productivity,
a lot of things going on. The voices that I
hear attacking Trump from the left, the Democrat Party, attacking
this administration on affordability, on things like housing, I.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Just have to laugh.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
These people you know, this is the AOC, Mam Donnie Wing.
They don't know a darn thing about how to build anything,
what it costs, what it means to actually create product
for people like homes to live in, and yet they're
the experts on this, I mean, this strain of Mamdanism.
It's just going to drive you nuts as part of
a family of builders.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
You know what it drives me to nuts is actually,
under Joe Biden, you had you know, four years of
ten percent plus inflation in this country, right. That means
every two by four at home depot was more expensive.
I mean, housing prices literally doubled. And that's because of massive,
massive inflation. Guess who that benefits. That doesn't benefit you know,
the lower middle classes. That benefits people that have assets.
(53:21):
And yet they're talking about affordability now, so you mean
to tell me ten percent compound in every single year.
You remember energy prices, you know, Bucky, you remember the
little stickers that said I did that and it's a
picture of Joe Biden's face, and everybody was putting them
on the gas prices. You know, gas pumps all over
the country. Right when energy costs became some of the
most expensive in history. When you know, America stopped exporting energy, right,
(53:45):
they became dependent on other countries for energy, even though
that we were totally energy sufficient under my father's first term,
and he gave it all away when he started banning
the Keystone Xcel pipeline and so many other projects. Right,
Biden caused that problem. Biden caused the inflation. Look at
inflation rates today under my father versus inflation rates under
(54:07):
Joe Biden. It's laughable that anybody could say that the
affordability crisis occurred under Donald Trump and not Joe Biden.
When you literally had the cost of everyday life go
up a compounding ten percent a year. It was over
forty percent over the four year period of time when
nominal wages were increasing like two percent a year. Right,
people are getting crammed down by twenty five, thirty thirty
(54:30):
five percent over that period of time where they were
losing grounds. The cost of everything was going like this,
and obviously wage growth was virtually stagnant. I find it comical,
to say the least.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Speaking of Eric Trump, Number one New York Time's bestseller
under Siege is his book, which I know so many
of you have gotten copies of it if you haven't,
makes a great present for the holidays. Eric, you know,
we're coming into the end of the year holiday season
and there's a lot of talk, like I said, about
affordability and people. I'm sure we're going to see the
news reports on Monday Tuesday about the cost of a
(55:04):
Thanksgiving dinner now versus obviously under Biden, the inflation for
these dinners was tremendous. Now Trump, your dad's bringing this
stuff down. But what is your You're having to operate
in the private sector in ways that you have tremendous
connectivity here at home and around the world. What's your
look ahead for the twenty twenty six economy here at home?
(55:24):
What are some of the things that you think could
really ignite the continuation of a lot of the growth
and a lot of the good policy that we've seen, Like,
what are you looking at for twenty twenty six when
it comes to the costs of things, pocketbook issues, all that.
Speaker 9 (55:41):
A buck. I've never been more bullish on the future
of AMERICAI. I mean, I mean that sincerely. You know,
if you look at what my father's doing on energy, right,
he wants energy, he wants these SMRs. He wants these
nuclear reactors, right, he's permitting them left and right. He's saying, drill, baby, drill.
He wants to have the cheapest energy in the world.
And why is that? Let me let me just explain
this to everybody. Energy costs are directly correlated to GDP.
(56:01):
The lower your energy costs, generally speaking, the higher your
GDP costs are, and you can track that for literally
decades and decades around the world. You keep low energy costs,
you're going to have high GDP. That's especially true when
you have things like like you know, the crypto industries,
the AI industries, industries that can transform, you know, be
transformational to an economy. Obviously, AI is that revolution. Crypto
(56:24):
in terms of digital finance is that revolution. Guess what
they need? They need energy? So does manufacturing. It needs
it needs energy. We've got more energy under our feet
than any country anywhere in the world, and we're finally
exploiting that again, which is an amazing thing for the
United States of America. That's what pulls costs down. You know,
they say about fifty to sixty percent of all inflation
is the cost of energy. Because for every egg, for
(56:46):
every gallon of milk for you know, guess what you
need to do. You need to transport that, and transport
and costs are expensive. And that's all based you know,
on oil and gas and ultimately energy. So we're solving
the energy. Second of all, look at bonus appreciation, right,
So my father put in one hundred percent bonus appreciation.
It means that every person who reinvested their company, reinvest
in their business, is able to write it off, you know,
(57:07):
day one, year one. What that's going to do in
terms of the contracting space, what that's going to do
with in terms of inward investing in companies in America
is going to be transformational. Third of all, look at
the you know, the tax plan. The largest tax breaks
in the history of our country were put in by
by my father. Right, that's going to be revolutionary for
(57:27):
American competitiveness around the world, you know, a business owners. Fourth,
look at the amount of inward investment that's coming into
our country. And look at what Saudi Arabia is doing.
Look at what all these countries are doing. Literally trillions
of dollars at this point, trillions and trillions of dollars
are coming into the United States and that's before you
even get to you know, he's going out to every
country saying, listen, aside from the fact I want you
(57:49):
to invest two trillion dollars in the US or trillion
dollars or eight hundred million dollars, I want you to
go out and I want you to buy two hundred
Boeing aircraft. Right. I mean, he's literally saving industries by
by what he's what he's doing. In fifth, you look
at you know, the tariffs. The tariffs are working. It's
hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that are flowing
back into this country based on tariffs, based on the
(58:09):
fact that everybody wants to and needs to trade with
the United States of America, which is by far the
world's largest economy at thirty two thirty three trillion dollars.
And guess what he's doing on the opposice side. He's
getting rid of all tariffs. He's getting rid of all duties,
which is allowing forward and allowing all the you know,
American companies to be able to export their product overseas.
(58:31):
The point of this story is, I've never been more
bullish on the United States ever before. There's confidence in
this country. There's respect around the world for the United
States of America. Everybody wants to be part of a dollar.
You see stable coins all around the world that are
pegged to the US dollar. Trillions of dollars are going
to come into our economy based on stable coins, based
on the growth of cryptocurrencies, which I believe in with
(58:53):
every aspect of my heart and soul. Are our economy
is going to boom? Are you going to have volatility?
Of course, you always have polatility in every economy, But
I think we are You compare America to Europe, it's
not even close. You compare America to just about any
other region in the world. Fuck, it's not even close.
We're doing all the right things, and we're doing them
(59:14):
quickly and smartly, and America is ultimately going to win
because of it. And there's never been a time in
my life where I've been more bullish on the United
States of America.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Eric Trump, everybody go get a copy of his book
Under Siege and Eric, thanks for coming by to hang out.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Good to see you as always.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
Thanks Buck.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah, Loo, I'm bullish on the economy too. I think
it's going to be a great things happening I also
want to save you money where I can right your
own personal economy.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
That's a good thing.
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