April 2, 2024 • 36 mins
Will abortion and legal marijuana on the ballot put Florida in play for Biden? C&B read hate email addressed to "Gay" Travis and "Cuck" Sexton ripping their stance against weed legalization. Clay & Buck launch new coffee company: Crockett Coffee, inspired by Davy Crockett. Trump posts $175M bond in NY civil case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number one Tuesday edition
Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you
out there hanging out with us. Right off the top,
I know there is some awful weather coming through the
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middle part of the country, including my home city of Nashville,
and it is possible with tornado warnings coming on and
the weather rolling through that you may suddenly hear me
zapp that's happened probably two or three days a year
on average, I would say where the situation is ripe
for there to be a line of storms that could
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be bringing tornadoes across the middle part of the country.
And I know many many of you, including me, are
in that line. So we hope that you will stay
safe and pay attention and maybe the shows may even
be the show today interrupted some by your local weather authorities.
There are a lot of different states that are in
the mix here, so right off the top, just stay
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safe and make smart decisions for you and your family
and what could be a scary weather situation for many
parts of the middle part of the country. But let's
go ahead and dive in here, Buck. We got a
couple of different things that I thought were fascinating that
I was reading about this morning. One, they don't really
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know how to cover RFK Junior on CNN or MSNBC.
They don't know what to do. Axios had a graph
on how much coverage each candidate has been receiving. In
particular RFK Junior from each of the networks. MSNBC is
effectively pretending he doesn't exist even though he was running
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for the Democrat nomination, shows that they are in total
cahoots with the Biden team. We're going to talk about
that some. He went on CNN made some intriguing comments,
what is his impact going to be? We will discover us.
But down in your home state of Florida, there were
two major substate Supreme Court rulings that came out yesterday
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that I think we should discuss because they could have
a substantial impact in the state of Florida, which I
think for most people, we had just kind of written
off as a Trump state and Senator Rick Scott is
up for reelection, and we had effectively said, Okay, he's
gonna win reelection pretty comfortably, nothing to worry about here,
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and so I want to get your read as a native,
but as a current Floridian now, and also I'm curious
for those of you out there in Florida how you
think this could be impactful, because I think it is
a recipe that Democrats have run before, and there are
other states where they will be trying to do something similar.
And here were the two Florida State Supreme Court rulings
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by a six to one margin, and you can correct
me if I'm wrong on any of this books six
to one margin, the Florida Supreme Court said the six
week abortion bill that was signed and passed by the legislature,
signed by Ron de Santis, is valid under the state
Constitution of Florida, so it will go into effect. I
believe on May first is the first day that that
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will become state law simultaneously. Though by a four to
three decision, the Florida Supreme Court also said there can
be a referendum put on the ballot in the state
of Florida that would effectively make Roe v. Wade the
law of the land. So you could have a situation
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where there is a six week abortion law that is
on the books for about six months and then it's
replaced by a effective reformulation of Roe v. Wade under
Florida state law as opposed to under the Supreme Court,
it is going to be a mandate on the ballot. So,
as a Florida resident who has voted already in the
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primary season, Buck, what do you think the con sequences
of this might be. I'll tell you my early read is,
I think it probably takes three or four points off
of Trump's number and off of Rick Scott's number, because
I do think there will be more young women who
Democrats are able to motivate to come out and vote.
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I don't think it changes the outcome of the state
of Florida, but I do think a bill like this,
a referendum like this, which we already saw happen in
Michigan for instance, when Tudor Dixon Iran, is going to
be an attempt that Democrats are trying to add on
in several different states here to come. How do you
see it?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, so there's the abortion component and the marijuana component
of this, and the State Supreme Court was just looking
at whether there was enough clarity for these ballot initiatives
to go forward effectively not weighing in on the merits
of either thing or either issue, but just is this
something that has enough clarity does not violate the state
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constitution in any way that we can put it on
a ballot. And I think that we're going to see
a real test of just how much of the inflow
to Florida, which I'm a part of, so I can
speak from the you know, individual and ie perspective, how
much of this inflow are true red staters, if you will,
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or rather people who fled blue states but have a
red state mentality and want conservative policy, versus how much
of it was COVID, which I think for some people
crossed a little bit over even beyond. I don't think
you had to be radically right wing at all to
realize that what California and New York and a bunch
of other states were doing on COVID was insane and
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destructive and completely counterproductive and based in nothing other than
the hysteria of the authoritarian left on the abortion issue.
I'm concerned because Republicans have lost in state after state
on this issue.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The clarity of the issue is always something that you know,
what exactly is the public going to think is on
the ballot? Versus what is actually on the ballot with
this initiative. So I don't think I mean Florida's gonna
go red. I still believe very strongly, but I think that, yeah,
you're right, it might. It might be an issue where
they can pick up a couple of points overall and
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then which is a shame, but I think that's where
it may end up being. And on the marijuana issue,
I will tell you this is one of those one
of those areas of policy clay where I think that
I was wrong and at some level I was had
or I was bamboozled for a long time, and I
haven't smoked marijuana, and oh my god, I mean I
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gave it up to go into the CIA, so I
think I was like eighteen.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So it's been I was going to say, I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Even do the math right now, but it's been several
decades since I've touched anything looking like a marijuana, cigarette
or weed of any kind. And and yet I've been
pro legalization because I was sympathy to the if you
have alcohol, why can't you have weed argument? You shouldn't
lock people up for Yeah, I agree with that, but
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what ends up happening when you legalize it. Unfortunately, is
it becomes a major quality of life issue. I'm not
saying people should be sent away to prison for individual possession.
That's not what happens really here in Florida or any
of these states anyway anymore. But if you fully legalize it,
like you just walking into the store and buy weed,
you're going this happened in New York City, and I
experienced it in New York City. You're going to smell
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weed everywhere. People who smoke weed are going to smoke
it all over and they're going to do it in
all the parks. They're going to do it and all
the and you're going to just be living in this
cloud of weed smoke. And I also do think it's
bad for society. I think weed is really bad for
your mental health. I think we'd the connection. We should
have Alex Perenson on, by the way, he's been on
this for a long time. The connection between marijuana use
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and psychosis is much stronger than people want to believe.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So I have flipped on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was wrong on this issue, and I'm worried that
we're going to have legalization in marijuana. I do think
that one's going to go through in Florida because people
kind of have this whatever, no big deal attitude. It
leads to a host of other problems.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It is a huge quality of life downgrade.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I'm worried I'm gonna have to rally the troops
here in Florida, so to speak, and try to get
these things defeated.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I think you're right to a large extent, not only
on marijuana, but look at what happened in Portland, because
I intended to be on the libertarian realm of drug use.
And the problem that you run into is you mentioned
that you are eighteen, you soake marijuana. The marijuana that
people smoked twenty five years ago is very different in
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potency than the marijuana that exists today. It is far
more my understanding, it is far more effective in its use,
and with the legalization of drugs in general. They tried
this experiment in Portland and they basically just waved the
white flag and said, this is in the state of Oregon.
This is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
We can't do it today. This is actually the timing
of this is really important.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Today.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oregon recriminalized the state of Oregon, which as gorgeous as
it is, and it is a beautiful place, is overrun
with commis along the coast. You go into the interior
and people actually understand America a bit more. But you know,
they they had this Clay. It's a nightmare. It makes
everything worse. It means your kids are gonna see drugies
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in the park and druggies on the streets, and you know,
going number one and going number two out in.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
The open, and oh they're addicts. You can't lock them
up because they're addics.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And they all start congregating there, and then they start stealing,
and they start breaking into cars at homes to feed
the habit and then oh, their addicts is not their
faulty luck. It makes everything worse for everyone. If Oregon
couldn't make this work, Clay, no state is gonna make
this work. It is nothing but downside. And the Libertarians
are pushing weed legalization for all those years, feeling really
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smug about it. They were wrong and they fooled me,
which makes me even angrier. I was wrong about it too.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's also fentanyl, obviously, which is so much more danger Again.
People can smoke weed, They can even use cocaine occasionally,
party drugs, things like that ecstasy like, but the fact
that that's now getting laced with fentanyl and people are
and I think it's important. There's a real conversation I'm
sure you've heard it too, of a difference between an
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overdose and a poisoning, because an overdose is, hey, I'm
intentionally taking this drug and as a result, you take
too much of the drug and you overdose and you die.
And hey, I'm trying to take something that's not very
dangerous in your mind at all. I'm trying to take
somebody out there who's going to a rave and takes
an ecstasy pill and it's been laced with a form
of fentanyl and the next thing you know, you die.
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You've been poisoned because you're taking a product that is
different than the one that you intended and the interconnection
between those has led to a poisoning. And so all
of this is deeply connected.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think. I think also on the issue because I
know what people are going to say, You're not going
to win the war on drugs.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I know all the you know, all the we get
like Reason magazine guys to call in now, you know,
the subscribers or whatever, but like, oh, all the the
war on drugs is so bad and you're never gonna
win everything else. When you legalize what happens is this
in the current situation, if somebody wants to get merra, well,
in some places it is already legal, and it's you know,
ruining those states and ruining those cities where it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But it's not hard to get weed. Anybody can get weed.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If you want to smoke it in your home and
you want to feed your weed habit, no one's able
to really stop you. And honestly, people don't really care
all that much. No one's you know, should be breaking
down doors and so on. That part of it, I agree.
But if you fully legalize it, what happens is it's everywhere.
It's on the streets, it's in the parks, it's outside
of schools. It's because now there's no teeth to any
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rules around it, so you just basically have a free
for all this. Anyone you can call in from if
you're listening wor and you live in the New York
in any of the five boroughs, or you spend time
in the Five boroughs, I'm sure you've experienced this. To Clay,
you can't go walking in Central Park now without big
blasts of weed smoke in your face. And we were
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told this wasn't gonna happen, and it does happen, And
it happens on the beach, you know as well here
it happens on places where it's not allowed. But if
it's legal, guess what, it just makes it all the
easier for people. And I look, I'm I don't know.
I know it sounds puritanical. I'm very opposed to legal
legalizing these recreational drugs now limited usage.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Only question as we go to break not morally politically
was the six week abortion ban in Florida? And I
don't think we'll know till we see the results of
this referendum and how they impact the overall state voting. Politically,
Was it a bad decision by DeSantis because they were
trying to run nationally? Buck DeSantis right of Trump? He
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is more conservative than Trump. I think that's true. I
don't think the six week ban helped him at all
in his political campaign for president, and I think it
actually turned off some of his supporters who saw him
as kind of a logical, data driven guy. And now
that it could put a lot more of Florida in
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play and maybe the Senate. I don't know what Rick
Scott's team would say about the impact of this for
him too. I think Trump's going to come out at
some point with a fifteen or sixteen week abortion stance,
somewhere between Roe v. Wade and the six week ban,
and we'll see how that plays, if at all. But
they're going to try to drive up Democrat turnout by
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getting referendums like this, and the Florida Supreme Court let
him do it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Trump should well, I'll tell you what I think Trump
should do on this, because having two pro choice presidents
on the ballot is also very problematic for a lot
of folks. We'll get back into this though in a second.
You know, Clay, you've got here.
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Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are
talking here about the ballot in issues in Florida. Could
it be a break in the wall that is the
Florida State of Freedom? Could it be a problem here?
And also what is Trump going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Clay?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
In my opinion, the best thing Trump could do on
the abortion issue is say that this is a state's issue,
which is what the Supreme Court found on it. There
isn't and would not be a federal position on abortion.
It is not a federal issue. This is what Scalia
was saying for decades on the Supreme Court. This is
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what the Supreme Court finally found. It is clearly the
case as a matter of law in the Constitution. So
he should say that this is left entirely up to
the states. There shouldn't be a federal position. I worry
if he takes a what is it If you think
you think I'll take a four month position or something
a sixteen The New.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
York Times reported that Trump has said sixteen weeks is
where he's gonna come out and say.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Then you have a then you have a Republican president
who's running who's effectively saying that the Republican Party's new
position is eighty percent or ninety percent of abortions are fine.
That's a problem. That's gonna be a problem for evangelicals.
That's going to be a problem for turnout in a
lot of places. So I worry about it. But I
also understand in some of these states the pro life
position is getting is getting voted voted down, even in
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red states like Nebraska, places where you wouldn't necessarily anticipate
that there would be I think Kentucky. So I am
concerned that it's going to pull three or four points,
and if it ended up being close, we'll play a
cut for you. I think Joe Scarborough's out to launch
on this, as he is on most takes. But what
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they're going to argue is that this gives them an
opportunity to flip Florida back to blue from red based
on the number of voters who will come out just
to vote on this referendum. That's certainly their plan. I
think that that's a wage. Remember just santus n won
by twenty points, right.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So you know there's but there's a lot of reds
in Florida now. It was in twenty Trump won by
three right three points in twenty there's more red voters now.
I think without this referendum, I think Trump wins seven
or eight. I don't even think it gets contested in Florida.
But you're right, Desantas won by twenty I think it's
gonna be intriguing to see. We'll play that audio for you.
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We'll talk about it a little bit more as well.
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say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck
Sexton show. I got an angry email for you Buck.
So gay Travis. He has cleverly changed my name from
Clay to gay. Literally this is the email. So gay
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Travis and and Cuck Sexton he has changed Buck to Couck.
That's not as soon as I saw it. I'll be
honest with you. I get a lot of very positive
emails from you guys, but the negative ones really do
make me laugh more.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So, I swear I knew that was coming. I knew
that was like, I knew that was next up, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So gay Travis and Cuck Sexton are against recreational cannabis
because then people will be smoking in places they aren't
supposed to. You mean, like I don't know all caps
alcohol the most dangerous drug in the United States every year,
and then he ends with it's all about alcohol. If
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alcohol is legal, no reason all drugs shouldn't be. Now,
go be a hypocrite and sip a glass of whiskey
like I know you will. You guys are a fin joke. Okay,
on behalf of Gay Travis and Cuck Sexton. What I
would suggest here is, to my knowledge, Buck, no one
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ever like the legalization of all drugs. Is I think
a crazy argument. No one has ever had a beer
a beer and died. Nope, I don't believe it's ever happened.
No one has ever had a glass of whiskey to
my knowledge and died. Now do people often abuse alcohol, Yes,
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but you have to abuse alcohol for a long time
and drink a lot of it. And we have a
lot of laws that would keep people from being able
to abuse alcohol. And when you violate the law, you
deal with the consequences. There's a big difference between fentanyl
and and buffalo trace. Just talking and I'll tell you
you know why. First of I would just say to
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all the people that would be considering.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know that they'd be writing in right now. Hopefully
they will work.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Up the enthusiasm and the motivation to write a full
email to us who are in favor of the lead
weed legalization. I used to hold their their view. I
mean I really for many years, and so I want
to be very clear about this. I was pro I
was never pro legalized everything, because that's insane, because I
knew from the scientific side of things that fentanyl is
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just it's just far more dangerous.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's you know, it's far more addictive, far more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That you can die the first time you use it.
If you can die the first time you use something,
in my opinion, it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Be I lllegal.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I mean to say that fentanyl is like weed, it
would be like saying, you know, a Daisy rider BB
gun is the same as a fifty caliber machine gun,
Like what's the difference. There's enormous difference, Okay, enormous difference
between them. But I used to hold this position, and
I think unfortunately we've run the experiment now and the
pro we side of things greatly overstated the benefits and
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greatly understated the downside. And that is what I experienced
as somebody who was pro marijuana legal pro sorry marijuana legalization,
sounds like I've been smoking marijuana. Legalization for the last
decade or so. It had It's hurt New York City,
it has hurt the state of Oregon, every place where
they have done this. It brings degenerates into communities. It
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brings degenerate businesses that bring all these people into residential areas.
It increases crime. It is a bad thing, and you
could say, oh, well, you know what was going on before.
What was going on before was you basically weren't going
to get arrested for smoking marijuana. But if you were
doing it somewhere out in the open, you could get
arrested for smoking marijuana. So at least there were some
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All my friends were in New York City growing up,
by the way, pretty much got arrested for smoking weed.
None of them had records. It wasn't a big deal,
but you had to, you know, avoid the cops in public.
Drinking a glass of wine does not affect anyone around you. Also,
I would say your conduct can affect people if you
get too drunk. Smoking weed is a disgusting and filthy habit. Unfortunately,
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it filters out in the air.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Other people have to smell it. Kids smell it. It's gross.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I am I know I'm upsetting some people this. I
am adamantly opposed to marijuana.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not as strong as you are, but I do
think it's funny that we shut down basically all cigarettes
smoking because we're like, we can't have anybody smoke cigarettes.
We can't allow people even to smoke cigarettes outside of
buildings in particular places. You almost never see my kids
react to somebody smoking cigarettes. They like, somebody might as
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well shoot it up heroin. They're like, oh my god, Dad,
did you see that person smoking a cigarettes? It's relatively
rare now, and we simultaneously have put it in a
situation where people smoke weed all the time everywhere. And
the other thing I would add is we did prohibit
alcohol and it didn't go very well at all in
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this country. And we balance in all facets of life.
This is what we used to do pre COVID. We
balance equities. I'm teaching my sixteen year old how to drive.
We could make the speed limit in the United States
fifteen miles an hour and no one would ever die
in a car accident.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This was my COVID argument. They are trying to get
down to zero deaths from COVID. I was like, this
is insane. All cars should be limited, you know, governed
at five miles an hour, can't go blow you know
you'll get there. What's the big deal? You'll get there
five miles an hour. Why don't you get there so
much faster? No Clay. I think also you could make
kind of a civilizational argument. Maybe this is going too far,
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but Western civilization and all the prosperity and the advances
and everything was built in societies that, let's be honest,
flourished with booze, nicotine, and caffeine. Okay, weed was not
a part of the There was not a helpful part
of the equation. All right, this is not like something
that has existed. Well, we've been flourishing and growing and building.
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So again, I've just experiencing it in New York City.
You know what happened to play and this happened in
my neighborhood. A weed store pops up, and in New
York I think it's decriminalized. It's not really legal, by
the way, it's all illegal under federal law still, so
there's a huge issue with nullification of federal law that
comes from all of this. But What happens is the
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store moves into your neighborhood, and then all of a
sudden you find yourself saying, well, who's going to that
store and what kind of people are gathered around? And
now they're smoking weed on your block. And now they
start dealing outside this store because they've got other stores.
It's just spirals.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's bad.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's like, why why do you not want to porn
shop on your corner, same reason you don't want a
weed shop on your corner.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think it's interesting too. They to your point, because
a federal law these companies. I was reading about this
this morning, and I've heard about this from several law firms.
The weed companies can't have access to banking, so they
just trapped. They almost entirely are moving money via cash,
and they have to have these that I think. There
was a big article in the New York Times I
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was reading this morning where in order to pay out employees,
they don't have payroll processing. They have to give them
all cash, and so they have to have these massive
implements of security to move everything around because unlike much
of modern commerce, they still aren't all set up.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I wanted, yeah, I was gonna play Should I play
Scarborough here? Let me play Scarborough.
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So Clay and I came together and we decided, you
know what, let's start a company. Let's start a company
where we're going to sell a premium product to this audience,
to all of you that embodies the spirit of America
and Clay. That's how we came up with Crockett Coffee,
which we are launching today here on the show. We're
(27:10):
excited about it. You go to Crocketcoffee dot com. But
Clay talk at why Davy Crockett, right, that was the
inspiration for this coffee brand.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Then I'll tell everybody how delicious it is. I'm drinking right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Here are history nerds, as you all know, and Bucks
holding up the mug. And one of my childhood heroes
was Davy Crockett, and his motto was be sure you're
right and then go ahead. And there have been so
many companies out there, and I know you guys have
experienced this that are afraid to own what many of
(27:41):
you out there listening right now believe in at least half.
I think a lot of times the stuff we're saying
as seventy five or eighty percent of the marketplace. And
we did have a coffee on this show, and you
and I both like coffee. I stopped drinking soda for
the most part because my wife was on me, Hey,
you got to get healthier. You got to get healthier.
So I drink coffee every day. I'm drinking coffee right now.
(28:02):
I've got Crockett coffee in my mug in my glass here,
and I think you guys are gonna love it. And
I think you're gonna love everything the brand stands for.
We're gonna donate profits proceeds to Tunnel to Towers as
a part of giving back, and we want to build
something in this universe where we don't all we love
our advertisers, but we don't want to always have to
(28:24):
rely on an advertiser to give us the ability to
say everything that we want to say every day.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, and the other thing is we're going to be
building out with some of our favorite people in this space.
We will Crockett Coffee. First of all, you know, the
Tunnel the Towers Foundation connection is so important to us
because we just love what that organization does and stands for.
And a portion of the proceeds will go to Tunnel
to Towers. You set this up with them, they couldn't
be more excited about the partnership as well. Another thing
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is we wanted this to be a top tier coffee,
meaning the actual roast, the actual beings. Is I'm a
coffee fanatic, maybe even a little snobby about having to
have good coffee. I don't like coffee that isn't high quality.
And that's what we took months and months and months
to find the best beans, the best roaster, the best
coffee we possibly could. And that's why you go to
(29:11):
Crocketcoffee dot com and you can have it ship to you.
Please join up a lot of you can subscribe and
then it will be shipped to you every month. But
another thing, Clay a part of The mission here is
we're going to have other folks that we know friends
of ours in the space. We're also going to be
partners of ours to be selling Crockett down the line.
We will never abandon the conservative space, We will never
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abandon patriotism. This will always be there for those who
share our values to drink and those who want to
become down the line evangelists for the brand can do
so so Crocketcoffee dot com. Crocket Coffee dot Com, please
go sign up. I'm drinking it every day. I have
been drinking it every day for weeks. It's absolutely delicious.
But we want to help build and this is the
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Speaker 1 (30:55):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I really appreciate all
of you who are already checking out Crocketcoffee dot com.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Thank you so much for that. I drink it every day,
Clay drinks it every day.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Our friends and family already have been tasting it and
making sure it's perfection, and we are hoping that as
many as possible please this is I mean, it's us,
it is of us, it is aligned with your values.
And the story of Davy Crockett's amazing, you know how
a big resurgence. Clay just the history of Davy Crockett
about seventy years ago when Disney became really interested in it,
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and he's a fascinating guy. In his death, I don't
even realize there was a time when Davy Crockett was
talked about not not only did he run for Congress
and became a member of Congress, there were some people
in Tennessee who approached him to be possible presidential candidate.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That was talked about.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I mean, he was a guy who came from a
cabin in the woods and moved from one cabin to
another and had some very hard breaks in his life
and was just had such a force of personality and
really became a frontier legend. And we just thought the
spirit of Davy Crockett was so exceptional that it was
a perfect embodiment of the brand and what we wanted
to represent.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And also just believing an American exceptionalism, of an American greatness.
There's so many brands out there that would be afraid
to even have an association with someone from American history
because they're like, oh, my goodness, Davy Crockett, he was
in the eighteen hundreds. He's a white guy. He must
be awful. We want everybody out there with the pioneer spirit,
(32:35):
with an embrace of risk taking and a frontier mindset
to really kind of We've talked about the show a lot,
Lewis and Clark. How I still think the Lewis and
Clark Expedition would become the most popular show ever. We've
talked about Yellowstone. I think there's still very much of
a frontier mindset in many parts of this country that's
having its back turned on.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And taking risk and building it yourself. I mean, that's
another part this. We have so much admiratio. You guys
all know. I even talked about Elon Musk. Admire what
he has done and what he chose to do for
the good of the country with X It wasn't to
make money formerly Twitter, but also you know, whether it's
Rumble or Truth, Social and and these and all of
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our brands that we work with here on the show
that we do advertisements for, they are doing this. They
are building this economy because we will never have true freedom.
We will never have constitutional, constitutional governance in this country
if the people with the purse strings are basically lunatic
leftists who can just shut you down at the at
(33:37):
the top of a hat. And that's what we've seen
for a lot of different people and a lot of
different brands out there, and you know a lot of
different brands out there in the world. We all know
about the wokeness canceling people. So we are creating an
unsinkable aircraft carrier of patriotism and free speech with this
company and hopefully embodying that build it yourself front to
your spirit.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So that's how we came together with it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And this audience knows better than anybody what they did
to Rush because really he was the first person that
they tried to cancel by coming after him for the
opinions that he shared. And we love the advertisers that
we have. But this is not bucking me taking a
licensing deal. We started this company from zero and if
we are me and your brother, like we're running it
(34:21):
so like this is legit our company. This is not
some crazy shadow thing where we're taking money like this
is we We have the equity, we have the company,
and we want to build a great American coffee brand.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, I hope that other top conservative voices will want
to be a part of what we're doing as well.
And what you know, that they'll be able to look
at us as a possible sponsor for them as we grow.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That will never say.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, someone wrote an angry tweeted us, and we don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
We don't know if.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Really the Constitution is something we can support with our
you know. So that's and this is the We have
other projects in mind as well, you know that we
want to be a part of, but for right now
now this is the centerpiece. And like I said, also
raising money for Tonta Towers. So it's it's it's phenomenal.
We're really looking forward to it, and you know, appreciate
all of you who are subscribing at Crocketcoffee dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
So with all that said, Clay.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And we'll remind some folks later on the show about
all this speaking of the parallel economy, or rather needing
money to keep the fight going? Is he Trump posted
the full one hundred and seventy five million dollar bond
while he's appealing the civil fraud penalty against him from
the state of New York the you know you brought
up Rush before. I don't think the left has ever
(35:37):
mounted such a all of the above like economic warfare
campaign against one individual. The closest thing would be when
they were trying to attack Rush Limbaugh for so many years,
you know, trying to attack his advertisers, and Rush, because
he was superhuman in his own way, was able to
just keep pushing through, keep building the movement. But what
Trump is pushing through right now is just he's running
(35:59):
for president. He's got the four criminal trials outstanding, and
one hundred and seventy five million dollars he's had to
put up for Bailey, who has.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
One hundred and seventy five million dollar.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Bond they have to post, and how about Buck. In
thirteen days, the trial in New York City starts, so
that is going to be up on us very quickly.
We'll see whether that's going to have any substantial impact
or not. We'll break all that down for you. Thanks
to all of you. By the way, Mason is following
the Google analytics. Within two minutes of us doing the mention,
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over a thousand of you were on the website. So
I can't promise that it's not going to crash, but
that is a testament to how many of you are
willing to immediate try to make a crash.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
All of you should go to the site, go check
it out, rococoffee dot com. We're gonna come back. RFK
Junior ways in Clay. Who's the biggest threat to the Constitution?
Not what CNM wanted to hear.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number one Tuesday edition
Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you
out there hanging out with us. Right off the top,
I know there is some awful weather coming through the
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middle part of the country, including my home city of Nashville,
and it is possible with tornado warnings coming on and
the weather rolling through that you may suddenly hear me
zapp that's happened probably two or three days a year
on average, I would say where the situation is ripe
for there to be a line of storms that could
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be bringing tornadoes across the middle part of the country.
And I know many many of you, including me, are
in that line. So we hope that you will stay
safe and pay attention and maybe the shows may even
be the show today interrupted some by your local weather authorities.
There are a lot of different states that are in
the mix here, so right off the top, just stay
(01:03):
safe and make smart decisions for you and your family
and what could be a scary weather situation for many
parts of the middle part of the country. But let's
go ahead and dive in here, Buck. We got a
couple of different things that I thought were fascinating that
I was reading about this morning. One, they don't really
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know how to cover RFK Junior on CNN or MSNBC.
They don't know what to do. Axios had a graph
on how much coverage each candidate has been receiving. In
particular RFK Junior from each of the networks. MSNBC is
effectively pretending he doesn't exist even though he was running
(01:46):
for the Democrat nomination, shows that they are in total
cahoots with the Biden team. We're going to talk about
that some. He went on CNN made some intriguing comments,
what is his impact going to be? We will discover us.
But down in your home state of Florida, there were
two major substate Supreme Court rulings that came out yesterday
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that I think we should discuss because they could have
a substantial impact in the state of Florida, which I
think for most people, we had just kind of written
off as a Trump state and Senator Rick Scott is
up for reelection, and we had effectively said, Okay, he's
gonna win reelection pretty comfortably, nothing to worry about here,
(02:30):
and so I want to get your read as a native,
but as a current Floridian now, and also I'm curious
for those of you out there in Florida how you
think this could be impactful, because I think it is
a recipe that Democrats have run before, and there are
other states where they will be trying to do something similar.
And here were the two Florida State Supreme Court rulings
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by a six to one margin, and you can correct
me if I'm wrong on any of this books six
to one margin, the Florida Supreme Court said the six
week abortion bill that was signed and passed by the legislature,
signed by Ron de Santis, is valid under the state
Constitution of Florida, so it will go into effect. I
believe on May first is the first day that that
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will become state law simultaneously. Though by a four to
three decision, the Florida Supreme Court also said there can
be a referendum put on the ballot in the state
of Florida that would effectively make Roe v. Wade the
law of the land. So you could have a situation
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where there is a six week abortion law that is
on the books for about six months and then it's
replaced by a effective reformulation of Roe v. Wade under
Florida state law as opposed to under the Supreme Court,
it is going to be a mandate on the ballot. So,
as a Florida resident who has voted already in the
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primary season, Buck, what do you think the con sequences
of this might be. I'll tell you my early read is,
I think it probably takes three or four points off
of Trump's number and off of Rick Scott's number, because
I do think there will be more young women who
Democrats are able to motivate to come out and vote.
(04:17):
I don't think it changes the outcome of the state
of Florida, but I do think a bill like this,
a referendum like this, which we already saw happen in
Michigan for instance, when Tudor Dixon Iran, is going to
be an attempt that Democrats are trying to add on
in several different states here to come. How do you
see it?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, so there's the abortion component and the marijuana component
of this, and the State Supreme Court was just looking
at whether there was enough clarity for these ballot initiatives
to go forward effectively not weighing in on the merits
of either thing or either issue, but just is this
something that has enough clarity does not violate the state
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constitution in any way that we can put it on
a ballot. And I think that we're going to see
a real test of just how much of the inflow
to Florida, which I'm a part of, so I can
speak from the you know, individual and ie perspective, how
much of this inflow are true red staters, if you will,
(05:17):
or rather people who fled blue states but have a
red state mentality and want conservative policy, versus how much
of it was COVID, which I think for some people
crossed a little bit over even beyond. I don't think
you had to be radically right wing at all to
realize that what California and New York and a bunch
of other states were doing on COVID was insane and
(05:38):
destructive and completely counterproductive and based in nothing other than
the hysteria of the authoritarian left on the abortion issue.
I'm concerned because Republicans have lost in state after state
on this issue.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The clarity of the issue is always something that you know,
what exactly is the public going to think is on
the ballot? Versus what is actually on the ballot with
this initiative. So I don't think I mean Florida's gonna
go red. I still believe very strongly, but I think that, yeah,
you're right, it might. It might be an issue where
they can pick up a couple of points overall and
(06:20):
then which is a shame, but I think that's where
it may end up being. And on the marijuana issue,
I will tell you this is one of those one
of those areas of policy clay where I think that
I was wrong and at some level I was had
or I was bamboozled for a long time, and I
haven't smoked marijuana, and oh my god, I mean I
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gave it up to go into the CIA, so I
think I was like eighteen.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So it's been I was going to say, I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Even do the math right now, but it's been several
decades since I've touched anything looking like a marijuana, cigarette
or weed of any kind. And and yet I've been
pro legalization because I was sympathy to the if you
have alcohol, why can't you have weed argument? You shouldn't
lock people up for Yeah, I agree with that, but
(07:07):
what ends up happening when you legalize it. Unfortunately, is
it becomes a major quality of life issue. I'm not
saying people should be sent away to prison for individual possession.
That's not what happens really here in Florida or any
of these states anyway anymore. But if you fully legalize it,
like you just walking into the store and buy weed,
you're going this happened in New York City, and I
experienced it in New York City. You're going to smell
(07:28):
weed everywhere. People who smoke weed are going to smoke
it all over and they're going to do it in
all the parks. They're going to do it and all
the and you're going to just be living in this
cloud of weed smoke. And I also do think it's
bad for society. I think weed is really bad for
your mental health. I think we'd the connection. We should
have Alex Perenson on, by the way, he's been on
this for a long time. The connection between marijuana use
(07:49):
and psychosis is much stronger than people want to believe.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So I have flipped on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was wrong on this issue, and I'm worried that
we're going to have legalization in marijuana. I do think
that one's going to go through in Florida because people
kind of have this whatever, no big deal attitude. It
leads to a host of other problems.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It is a huge quality of life downgrade.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I'm worried I'm gonna have to rally the troops
here in Florida, so to speak, and try to get
these things defeated.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I think you're right to a large extent, not only
on marijuana, but look at what happened in Portland, because
I intended to be on the libertarian realm of drug use.
And the problem that you run into is you mentioned
that you are eighteen, you soake marijuana. The marijuana that
people smoked twenty five years ago is very different in
(08:37):
potency than the marijuana that exists today. It is far
more my understanding, it is far more effective in its use,
and with the legalization of drugs in general. They tried
this experiment in Portland and they basically just waved the
white flag and said, this is in the state of Oregon.
This is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
We can't do it today. This is actually the timing
of this is really important.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Today.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oregon recriminalized the state of Oregon, which as gorgeous as
it is, and it is a beautiful place, is overrun
with commis along the coast. You go into the interior
and people actually understand America a bit more. But you know,
they they had this Clay. It's a nightmare. It makes
everything worse. It means your kids are gonna see drugies
(09:22):
in the park and druggies on the streets, and you know,
going number one and going number two out in.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
The open, and oh they're addicts. You can't lock them
up because they're addics.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And they all start congregating there, and then they start stealing,
and they start breaking into cars at homes to feed
the habit and then oh, their addicts is not their
faulty luck. It makes everything worse for everyone. If Oregon
couldn't make this work, Clay, no state is gonna make
this work. It is nothing but downside. And the Libertarians
are pushing weed legalization for all those years, feeling really
(09:50):
smug about it. They were wrong and they fooled me,
which makes me even angrier. I was wrong about it too.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's also fentanyl, obviously, which is so much more danger Again.
People can smoke weed, They can even use cocaine occasionally,
party drugs, things like that ecstasy like, but the fact
that that's now getting laced with fentanyl and people are
and I think it's important. There's a real conversation I'm
sure you've heard it too, of a difference between an
(10:18):
overdose and a poisoning, because an overdose is, hey, I'm
intentionally taking this drug and as a result, you take
too much of the drug and you overdose and you die.
And hey, I'm trying to take something that's not very
dangerous in your mind at all. I'm trying to take
somebody out there who's going to a rave and takes
an ecstasy pill and it's been laced with a form
of fentanyl and the next thing you know, you die.
(10:40):
You've been poisoned because you're taking a product that is
different than the one that you intended and the interconnection
between those has led to a poisoning. And so all
of this is deeply connected.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think. I think also on the issue because I
know what people are going to say, You're not going
to win the war on drugs.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I know all the you know, all the we get
like Reason magazine guys to call in now, you know,
the subscribers or whatever, but like, oh, all the the
war on drugs is so bad and you're never gonna
win everything else. When you legalize what happens is this
in the current situation, if somebody wants to get merra, well,
in some places it is already legal, and it's you know,
ruining those states and ruining those cities where it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But it's not hard to get weed. Anybody can get weed.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If you want to smoke it in your home and
you want to feed your weed habit, no one's able
to really stop you. And honestly, people don't really care
all that much. No one's you know, should be breaking
down doors and so on. That part of it, I agree.
But if you fully legalize it, what happens is it's everywhere.
It's on the streets, it's in the parks, it's outside
of schools. It's because now there's no teeth to any
(11:43):
rules around it, so you just basically have a free
for all this. Anyone you can call in from if
you're listening wor and you live in the New York
in any of the five boroughs, or you spend time
in the Five boroughs, I'm sure you've experienced this. To Clay,
you can't go walking in Central Park now without big
blasts of weed smoke in your face. And we were
(12:03):
told this wasn't gonna happen, and it does happen, And
it happens on the beach, you know as well here
it happens on places where it's not allowed. But if
it's legal, guess what, it just makes it all the
easier for people. And I look, I'm I don't know.
I know it sounds puritanical. I'm very opposed to legal
legalizing these recreational drugs now limited usage.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Only question as we go to break not morally politically
was the six week abortion ban in Florida? And I
don't think we'll know till we see the results of
this referendum and how they impact the overall state voting. Politically,
Was it a bad decision by DeSantis because they were
trying to run nationally? Buck DeSantis right of Trump? He
(12:49):
is more conservative than Trump. I think that's true. I
don't think the six week ban helped him at all
in his political campaign for president, and I think it
actually turned off some of his supporters who saw him
as kind of a logical, data driven guy. And now
that it could put a lot more of Florida in
(13:09):
play and maybe the Senate. I don't know what Rick
Scott's team would say about the impact of this for
him too. I think Trump's going to come out at
some point with a fifteen or sixteen week abortion stance,
somewhere between Roe v. Wade and the six week ban,
and we'll see how that plays, if at all. But
they're going to try to drive up Democrat turnout by
(13:31):
getting referendums like this, and the Florida Supreme Court let
him do it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Trump should well, I'll tell you what I think Trump
should do on this, because having two pro choice presidents
on the ballot is also very problematic for a lot
of folks. We'll get back into this though in a second.
You know, Clay, you've got here.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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(14:58):
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Speaker 3 (15:08):
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Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are
talking here about the ballot in issues in Florida. Could
it be a break in the wall that is the
Florida State of Freedom? Could it be a problem here?
And also what is Trump going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Clay?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
In my opinion, the best thing Trump could do on
the abortion issue is say that this is a state's issue,
which is what the Supreme Court found on it. There
isn't and would not be a federal position on abortion.
It is not a federal issue. This is what Scalia
was saying for decades on the Supreme Court. This is
(16:08):
what the Supreme Court finally found. It is clearly the
case as a matter of law in the Constitution. So
he should say that this is left entirely up to
the states. There shouldn't be a federal position. I worry
if he takes a what is it If you think
you think I'll take a four month position or something
a sixteen The New.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
York Times reported that Trump has said sixteen weeks is
where he's gonna come out and say.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Then you have a then you have a Republican president
who's running who's effectively saying that the Republican Party's new
position is eighty percent or ninety percent of abortions are fine.
That's a problem. That's gonna be a problem for evangelicals.
That's going to be a problem for turnout in a
lot of places. So I worry about it. But I
also understand in some of these states the pro life
position is getting is getting voted voted down, even in
(16:54):
red states like Nebraska, places where you wouldn't necessarily anticipate
that there would be I think Kentucky. So I am
concerned that it's going to pull three or four points,
and if it ended up being close, we'll play a
cut for you. I think Joe Scarborough's out to launch
on this, as he is on most takes. But what
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they're going to argue is that this gives them an
opportunity to flip Florida back to blue from red based
on the number of voters who will come out just
to vote on this referendum. That's certainly their plan. I
think that that's a wage. Remember just santus n won
by twenty points, right.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So you know there's but there's a lot of reds
in Florida now. It was in twenty Trump won by
three right three points in twenty there's more red voters now.
I think without this referendum, I think Trump wins seven
or eight. I don't even think it gets contested in Florida.
But you're right, Desantas won by twenty I think it's
gonna be intriguing to see. We'll play that audio for you.
(17:57):
We'll talk about it a little bit more as well.
We also got some stories like did you ever think
Shakira was gonna step into the culture wars in a
big way?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Her hips don't lie, Her.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hips are not lying on this one for sure. A
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Sexton show. I got an angry email for you Buck.
So gay Travis. He has cleverly changed my name from
Clay to gay. Literally this is the email. So gay
(19:13):
Travis and and Cuck Sexton he has changed Buck to Couck.
That's not as soon as I saw it. I'll be
honest with you. I get a lot of very positive
emails from you guys, but the negative ones really do
make me laugh more.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So, I swear I knew that was coming. I knew
that was like, I knew that was next up, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So gay Travis and Cuck Sexton are against recreational cannabis
because then people will be smoking in places they aren't
supposed to. You mean, like I don't know all caps
alcohol the most dangerous drug in the United States every year,
and then he ends with it's all about alcohol. If
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alcohol is legal, no reason all drugs shouldn't be. Now,
go be a hypocrite and sip a glass of whiskey
like I know you will. You guys are a fin joke. Okay,
on behalf of Gay Travis and Cuck Sexton. What I
would suggest here is, to my knowledge, Buck, no one
(20:19):
ever like the legalization of all drugs. Is I think
a crazy argument. No one has ever had a beer
a beer and died. Nope, I don't believe it's ever happened.
No one has ever had a glass of whiskey to
my knowledge and died. Now do people often abuse alcohol, Yes,
(20:40):
but you have to abuse alcohol for a long time
and drink a lot of it. And we have a
lot of laws that would keep people from being able
to abuse alcohol. And when you violate the law, you
deal with the consequences. There's a big difference between fentanyl
and and buffalo trace. Just talking and I'll tell you
you know why. First of I would just say to
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all the people that would be considering.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know that they'd be writing in right now. Hopefully
they will work.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Up the enthusiasm and the motivation to write a full
email to us who are in favor of the lead
weed legalization. I used to hold their their view. I
mean I really for many years, and so I want
to be very clear about this. I was pro I
was never pro legalized everything, because that's insane, because I
knew from the scientific side of things that fentanyl is
(21:29):
just it's just far more dangerous.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's you know, it's far more addictive, far more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That you can die the first time you use it.
If you can die the first time you use something,
in my opinion, it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Be I lllegal.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I mean to say that fentanyl is like weed, it
would be like saying, you know, a Daisy rider BB
gun is the same as a fifty caliber machine gun,
Like what's the difference. There's enormous difference, Okay, enormous difference
between them. But I used to hold this position, and
I think unfortunately we've run the experiment now and the
pro we side of things greatly overstated the benefits and
(22:04):
greatly understated the downside. And that is what I experienced
as somebody who was pro marijuana legal pro sorry marijuana legalization,
sounds like I've been smoking marijuana. Legalization for the last
decade or so. It had It's hurt New York City,
it has hurt the state of Oregon, every place where
they have done this. It brings degenerates into communities. It
(22:26):
brings degenerate businesses that bring all these people into residential areas.
It increases crime. It is a bad thing, and you
could say, oh, well, you know what was going on before.
What was going on before was you basically weren't going
to get arrested for smoking marijuana. But if you were
doing it somewhere out in the open, you could get
arrested for smoking marijuana. So at least there were some
(22:49):
All my friends were in New York City growing up,
by the way, pretty much got arrested for smoking weed.
None of them had records. It wasn't a big deal,
but you had to, you know, avoid the cops in public.
Drinking a glass of wine does not affect anyone around you. Also,
I would say your conduct can affect people if you
get too drunk. Smoking weed is a disgusting and filthy habit. Unfortunately,
(23:10):
it filters out in the air.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Other people have to smell it. Kids smell it. It's gross.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I am I know I'm upsetting some people this. I
am adamantly opposed to marijuana.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not as strong as you are, but I do
think it's funny that we shut down basically all cigarettes
smoking because we're like, we can't have anybody smoke cigarettes.
We can't allow people even to smoke cigarettes outside of
buildings in particular places. You almost never see my kids
react to somebody smoking cigarettes. They like, somebody might as
(23:41):
well shoot it up heroin. They're like, oh my god, Dad,
did you see that person smoking a cigarettes? It's relatively
rare now, and we simultaneously have put it in a
situation where people smoke weed all the time everywhere. And
the other thing I would add is we did prohibit
alcohol and it didn't go very well at all in
(24:01):
this country. And we balance in all facets of life.
This is what we used to do pre COVID. We
balance equities. I'm teaching my sixteen year old how to drive.
We could make the speed limit in the United States
fifteen miles an hour and no one would ever die
in a car accident.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This was my COVID argument. They are trying to get
down to zero deaths from COVID. I was like, this
is insane. All cars should be limited, you know, governed
at five miles an hour, can't go blow you know
you'll get there. What's the big deal? You'll get there
five miles an hour. Why don't you get there so
much faster? No Clay. I think also you could make
kind of a civilizational argument. Maybe this is going too far,
(24:39):
but Western civilization and all the prosperity and the advances
and everything was built in societies that, let's be honest,
flourished with booze, nicotine, and caffeine. Okay, weed was not
a part of the There was not a helpful part
of the equation. All right, this is not like something
that has existed. Well, we've been flourishing and growing and building.
(25:00):
So again, I've just experiencing it in New York City.
You know what happened to play and this happened in
my neighborhood. A weed store pops up, and in New
York I think it's decriminalized. It's not really legal, by
the way, it's all illegal under federal law still, so
there's a huge issue with nullification of federal law that
comes from all of this. But What happens is the
(25:22):
store moves into your neighborhood, and then all of a
sudden you find yourself saying, well, who's going to that
store and what kind of people are gathered around? And
now they're smoking weed on your block. And now they
start dealing outside this store because they've got other stores.
It's just spirals.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's bad.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's like, why why do you not want to porn
shop on your corner, same reason you don't want a
weed shop on your corner.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I think it's interesting too. They to your point, because
a federal law these companies. I was reading about this
this morning, and I've heard about this from several law firms.
The weed companies can't have access to banking, so they
just trapped. They almost entirely are moving money via cash,
and they have to have these that I think. There
was a big article in the New York Times I
(26:03):
was reading this morning where in order to pay out employees,
they don't have payroll processing. They have to give them
all cash, and so they have to have these massive
implements of security to move everything around because unlike much
of modern commerce, they still aren't all set up.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I wanted, yeah, I was gonna play Should I play
Scarborough here? Let me play Scarborough.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Let's play Scarborough minute? Because we want to talk. You
mentioned commerce. Let's play Scarborough and we come back. So
we talk a lot here about the need to align
with conservative values and to spend money with companies that
share your values, right, all of our sponsors, for example,
but we also want to be a part of this
movement and building a parallel economy that is all about
(26:48):
patriotism America and shares the values of this audience was paramount.
So Clay and I came together and we decided, you
know what, let's start a company. Let's start a company
where we're going to sell a premium product to this audience,
to all of you that embodies the spirit of America
and Clay. That's how we came up with Crockett Coffee,
which we are launching today here on the show. We're
(27:10):
excited about it. You go to Crocketcoffee dot com. But
Clay talk at why Davy Crockett, right, that was the
inspiration for this coffee brand.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Then I'll tell everybody how delicious it is. I'm drinking right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Here are history nerds, as you all know, and Bucks
holding up the mug. And one of my childhood heroes
was Davy Crockett, and his motto was be sure you're
right and then go ahead. And there have been so
many companies out there, and I know you guys have
experienced this that are afraid to own what many of
(27:41):
you out there listening right now believe in at least half.
I think a lot of times the stuff we're saying
as seventy five or eighty percent of the marketplace. And
we did have a coffee on this show, and you
and I both like coffee. I stopped drinking soda for
the most part because my wife was on me, Hey,
you got to get healthier. You got to get healthier.
So I drink coffee every day. I'm drinking coffee right now.
(28:02):
I've got Crockett coffee in my mug in my glass here,
and I think you guys are gonna love it. And
I think you're gonna love everything the brand stands for.
We're gonna donate profits proceeds to Tunnel to Towers as
a part of giving back, and we want to build
something in this universe where we don't all we love
our advertisers, but we don't want to always have to
(28:24):
rely on an advertiser to give us the ability to
say everything that we want to say every day.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, and the other thing is we're going to be
building out with some of our favorite people in this space.
We will Crockett Coffee. First of all, you know, the
Tunnel the Towers Foundation connection is so important to us
because we just love what that organization does and stands for.
And a portion of the proceeds will go to Tunnel
to Towers. You set this up with them, they couldn't
be more excited about the partnership as well. Another thing
(28:51):
is we wanted this to be a top tier coffee,
meaning the actual roast, the actual beings. Is I'm a
coffee fanatic, maybe even a little snobby about having to
have good coffee. I don't like coffee that isn't high quality.
And that's what we took months and months and months
to find the best beans, the best roaster, the best
coffee we possibly could. And that's why you go to
(29:11):
Crocketcoffee dot com and you can have it ship to you.
Please join up a lot of you can subscribe and
then it will be shipped to you every month. But
another thing, Clay a part of The mission here is
we're going to have other folks that we know friends
of ours in the space. We're also going to be
partners of ours to be selling Crockett down the line.
We will never abandon the conservative space, We will never
(29:33):
abandon patriotism. This will always be there for those who
share our values to drink and those who want to
become down the line evangelists for the brand can do
so so Crocketcoffee dot com. Crocket Coffee dot Com, please
go sign up. I'm drinking it every day. I have
been drinking it every day for weeks. It's absolutely delicious.
But we want to help build and this is the
(29:54):
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Speaker 1 (30:55):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I really appreciate all
of you who are already checking out Crocketcoffee dot com.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Thank you so much for that. I drink it every day,
Clay drinks it every day.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Our friends and family already have been tasting it and
making sure it's perfection, and we are hoping that as
many as possible please this is I mean, it's us,
it is of us, it is aligned with your values.
And the story of Davy Crockett's amazing, you know how
a big resurgence. Clay just the history of Davy Crockett
about seventy years ago when Disney became really interested in it,
(31:37):
and he's a fascinating guy. In his death, I don't
even realize there was a time when Davy Crockett was
talked about not not only did he run for Congress
and became a member of Congress, there were some people
in Tennessee who approached him to be possible presidential candidate.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That was talked about.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I mean, he was a guy who came from a
cabin in the woods and moved from one cabin to
another and had some very hard breaks in his life
and was just had such a force of personality and
really became a frontier legend. And we just thought the
spirit of Davy Crockett was so exceptional that it was
a perfect embodiment of the brand and what we wanted
to represent.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And also just believing an American exceptionalism, of an American greatness.
There's so many brands out there that would be afraid
to even have an association with someone from American history
because they're like, oh, my goodness, Davy Crockett, he was
in the eighteen hundreds. He's a white guy. He must
be awful. We want everybody out there with the pioneer spirit,
(32:35):
with an embrace of risk taking and a frontier mindset
to really kind of We've talked about the show a lot,
Lewis and Clark. How I still think the Lewis and
Clark Expedition would become the most popular show ever. We've
talked about Yellowstone. I think there's still very much of
a frontier mindset in many parts of this country that's
having its back turned on.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And taking risk and building it yourself. I mean, that's
another part this. We have so much admiratio. You guys
all know. I even talked about Elon Musk. Admire what
he has done and what he chose to do for
the good of the country with X It wasn't to
make money formerly Twitter, but also you know, whether it's
Rumble or Truth, Social and and these and all of
(33:16):
our brands that we work with here on the show
that we do advertisements for, they are doing this. They
are building this economy because we will never have true freedom.
We will never have constitutional, constitutional governance in this country
if the people with the purse strings are basically lunatic
leftists who can just shut you down at the at
(33:37):
the top of a hat. And that's what we've seen
for a lot of different people and a lot of
different brands out there, and you know a lot of
different brands out there in the world. We all know
about the wokeness canceling people. So we are creating an
unsinkable aircraft carrier of patriotism and free speech with this
company and hopefully embodying that build it yourself front to
your spirit.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So that's how we came together with it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And this audience knows better than anybody what they did
to Rush because really he was the first person that
they tried to cancel by coming after him for the
opinions that he shared. And we love the advertisers that
we have. But this is not bucking me taking a
licensing deal. We started this company from zero and if
we are me and your brother, like we're running it
(34:21):
so like this is legit our company. This is not
some crazy shadow thing where we're taking money like this
is we We have the equity, we have the company,
and we want to build a great American coffee brand.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, I hope that other top conservative voices will want
to be a part of what we're doing as well.
And what you know, that they'll be able to look
at us as a possible sponsor for them as we grow.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That will never say.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, someone wrote an angry tweeted us, and we don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
We don't know if.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Really the Constitution is something we can support with our
you know. So that's and this is the We have
other projects in mind as well, you know that we
want to be a part of, but for right now
now this is the centerpiece. And like I said, also
raising money for Tonta Towers. So it's it's it's phenomenal.
We're really looking forward to it, and you know, appreciate
all of you who are subscribing at Crocketcoffee dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
So with all that said, Clay.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And we'll remind some folks later on the show about
all this speaking of the parallel economy, or rather needing
money to keep the fight going? Is he Trump posted
the full one hundred and seventy five million dollar bond
while he's appealing the civil fraud penalty against him from
the state of New York the you know you brought
up Rush before. I don't think the left has ever
(35:37):
mounted such a all of the above like economic warfare
campaign against one individual. The closest thing would be when
they were trying to attack Rush Limbaugh for so many years,
you know, trying to attack his advertisers, and Rush, because
he was superhuman in his own way, was able to
just keep pushing through, keep building the movement. But what
Trump is pushing through right now is just he's running
(35:59):
for president. He's got the four criminal trials outstanding, and
one hundred and seventy five million dollars he's had to
put up for Bailey, who has.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
One hundred and seventy five million dollar.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Bond they have to post, and how about Buck. In
thirteen days, the trial in New York City starts, so
that is going to be up on us very quickly.
We'll see whether that's going to have any substantial impact
or not. We'll break all that down for you. Thanks
to all of you. By the way, Mason is following
the Google analytics. Within two minutes of us doing the mention,
(36:30):
over a thousand of you were on the website. So
I can't promise that it's not going to crash, but
that is a testament to how many of you are
willing to immediate try to make a crash.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
All of you should go to the site, go check
it out, rococoffee dot com. We're gonna come back. RFK
Junior ways in Clay. Who's the biggest threat to the Constitution?
Not what CNM wanted to hear.
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