September 29, 2023 • 36 mins
Clay hosts solo as Buck moves. Senator Dianne Feinstein dies at 90, Biden comments. Gavin Newsom pledges to choose black woman to replace her, committing to racism and sexism. Explicit, indefensible racism has become the foundation of the Democrat Party. Could Dems send Kamala back to the Senate? Government shutdown looming. Democrats have become the villains of Harper Lee's "To Kill a Mockingbird." Clay takes calls from fired-up listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are ready to roll into the
weekend with me today. Buck would much rather be here,
but he is in the process of moving into a
new place in Florida, so he and Carrie are engaging
(00:26):
in that always difficult task. He'll be back with me
on Monday. It's just me and you rolling through on Friday,
headed into the weekend. A little bit of a roadmap
of where we're headed. Doug Bergham is going to join
us at one thirty. North Dakota governor had a pretty solid,
I thought performance on the stage Wednesday night out in
(00:46):
the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, and he has not yet
been on the program.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I think he's the only person who.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Was on the stage that has not yet been on
The Clay and Buck Show who is running for president
there in the Republican primary. So we will talk with
him at one thirty. My friend Tommy larn OutKick employee
Fox News in Presario, she will be on with us
at two thirty. That is where we are headed, but
we begin with some breaking news happened this morning that
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is going to have many different ripple effects going forward.
And let's start with condolences. Diane Feinstein, ninety years old,
longest serving woman senator in the history of the United States.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
She died.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
She passed this morning at the age of ninety. Now, unfortunately,
she has been in the news a great deal of
late because she hasn't had the mental faculties and been
able to do her job as Senator. And we've talked
about this some on the program because in a tightly
contested fifty one to forty nine Senate, and that's being
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generous because Joe Manchin, Kirsten Cinema aren't really reliable Tomocrat voters.
As you know, Cinema now is an independent mansion, has
flirted with independence. There isn't really a tangible majority in
the United States Senate. So now with Robert Menendez underfire
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demands for him to resign in New Jersey, Democrats are
in peril there. And now with Dianne Feinstein's death, Gavin Newsom,
the governor of California, is forced to appoint a replacement
for her. Now here's the challenge. Her tenure was set
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to expire next year. It was reckless of her to
run and still be in office. To this point, she
did not have the ability to even make her own
decisions in her own life, and she was still voting
as a United States center She has a power of
attorney that she signed over to her family members. That
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means that she was able to bind the United States
by voting as a senator, but she was not able
to contractually bind herself as an individual in her own life.
That's scary. She has a legacy. She was a very
powerful senator. She has a long legacy of serving this country.
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But in the last several years, that legacy vanished to
the point where she really didn't know what was going
on from one moment to the next. And if you
saw her speaking in committees, you could tell that she
had no real idea what was taking place. And unfortunately,
there are many different members of the United States government
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who are still in that position. Let's play. Let me
play for you. Here is Joe Biden on Dianne Feinstein. Listen,
I believe that's cut.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Your senat Diane Feinstein, who passed away this morning. She
was an historic figure, trailblazer for women and a great
friend and made her mark and everything from national security
to the environment, gun safety, to protecting civil liberties. Country's
going to miss her daily, and so will Jill. And
I have more to say about her later today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Okay, here's the reality. And I think it's hard not
to think about this when you hear Joe Biden talking
about Dianne Feinstein. She shouldn't have run for the last
term of office in the Senate. It was reckless for
her to do so. She was elected at eighty four
or eighty five years old for that final six year term.
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I feel like that same thing is going to happen
with Joe Biden, and I hate that you have to
have this conversation, but it is of paramount importance that
the leaders of this country have the physical and mental
ability to be able to do the jobs. So we'll
talk about Joe Biden here in a moment. But in
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the short term, politically, this is a mess for Gavin
Newsom because Gavin Newsom, governor of California, has come out
and said the same thing that Joe Biden said, which
is he'll only pick a black woman to replace this
particular absence. If you'll remember Joe Biden, when he was
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campaigning in February of twenty twenty, said that on the
Supreme Court he would only place a black woman. That
is how we ended up with Katanji Brown Jackson as
the newest Supreme Court Justice. Well, Gavin Newsom said the
same thing. I believe we have audio of him saying,
if I need to make an appointment, it will be
a black woman.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Listen, if in fact, Diane Feinstein were to retire, will
you nominate an African American woman to restore the seat
that Kamala Harris is no longer in the United States Senate?
And do you have a name in mind?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I have multiple, we have multiple names of mind. And
the answer is yes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So he has now done the same thing that Joe
Biden did, which is commit to racism and sexism as
the sole factor upon which he is going to make
a determination to pick someone to replace Diane Feinstein, just
as Joe Biden did for a Supreme Court justice. To
me this, it's hard to find a more perfect representation
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of the identity politics taking over of the Democrat Party
than these two decisions in concert, because beyond the shadow
of a doubt, they are sexist and racist. Ninety four
percent of Americans are not black women. That means that
Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom are both saying, at the outset,
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ninety four percent of the American population, I will not
consider for these jobs. And when they make that comment,
what they are saying is that you should be judged
entirely by something that you did not choose. This is important.
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None of us choose our gender, none of us with
functional brains, certainly not at birth. And we also don't
choose our race. Those are things that we are born with.
To me, your race and your gender are two of
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the least interesting things about you because they say nothing
about the individual choices in life that you are made making.
But also when you are saying that we are going
to completely eliminate all criteria other than your race and
your gender as now Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom both
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have said fulfilling incredibly important roles in the United States government,
what you are saying is you're simultaneously being sexist and
racist directly while cutting the legs out from under the
person that you are selecting. Look at what Trump did
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in twenty sixteen. I think this was a big reason
why Trump won. There's a lot of nervousness about what
he might do with the Supreme Court. I think one
of the most brilliant things Trump did in his twenty
sixteen campaign was he said, Hey, here's a list of
all the highly qualified judges that I will consider in
the event that there is a Supreme Court vacancy. And
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he put that list out and it was well vetted. Federalist
Society had done a good job picking excellent candidates, and
he said, here's the list, look at it, and ultimately
Trump picked judges off the list.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Joe Biden could have done that, Lavin Newsom could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now they could say, hey, here's a list of all
the people that I'm considering for Supreme Court. Here's a
list of all the people that I'm considering for this
Senate vacancy, and we could all go look at that list.
Media out there could do their deep dive. Politically, everybody
could argue in favor of whoever they think is the
best choice. And then if Joe Biden or Gavin Newsom
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had picked a black woman, they could step in front
of the cameras alongside of their choice and they could
argue they looked at the whole list, and they picked
the most qualified candidate. They picked the best man the
best woman that was on that list in their opinion.
And you or I might not agree with that. We
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might even say, well, this is still identity politics, but
the nominee would not have been selected entirely based on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Her race or her gender.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When you say I'm only going to pick someone of
a particular race or particular gender, it is both racist
and sexist. It also de legitimizes at the moment that
you select them the person that you are putting into
that office. Because you aren't even giving the indication that
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that person was the best available for the job. You
are playing naked identity politics. You are engaging in racism
and sexism. And this fires me up because it is
a direct refutation of everything that America stands for, the
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idea that the meritocracy should govern who ends up in
positions of power. The best man or the best woman
should win, by the way, not the best man pretending to.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Be a woman. But that's an entirely different story.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Already, Gavin Newsom has stripped away the legitimacy of whomever
he selects for the Senate because he is saying, I'm
not picking the best man or the best woman, I'm
picking a black woman. And you can't even argue that
that black woman is being selected and believes and Gavin
Newsom believes that she is the best person for the job,
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because he's already said he's not even going to consider
ninety four percent of the American population for that job.
This is everything that's wrong with identity politics which has
taken over the Democrat Party. And ultimately the irony here
is Gavin Newsom knows it. Because Gavin Newsom, this is
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why I said yesterday, Gavin Newsom wants Trump to win
because he knows that the politics of his own party
make it almost impossible for him to end up a
presidential nominee if Kamala Harris is sitting there because by
his own standing and his own decisions, it would be
racist and sexist for Kamala Harris not to be the
twenty twenty eight Democrat Party nominee for president. In saying
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that he's only going to pick a black woman, this
should be a disqualifying moment of electoral politics for anyone.
If we truly cared about having an American society that
is equal for everyone. The way to solve issues of
racism in America is not by engaging in direct issue
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of racism. Racism doesn't cure racism. I'm going to tell
you a story in a little bit about a book
that I bet all of you read that has now
been rejected by the Democrat Party. It's called to Kill
a Mockingbird. The entire purpose of To Kill a Mockingbird
was the idea we all should be judged based on
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what is and is not true, regardless of what our
gender or our race might be. I met every single
person almost listening to me right now at some point seventh,
eight ninth grade, tenth grade in school, you were probably
assigned to kill a mockingbird. The Democrat Party is now
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the villains of the book To Kill a Mockingbird, because
they believe all that should matter when it comes to
judging truth, justice, fairness in American society is the identity
of the individuals involved, not the facts and the truth.
I'm fired up about this. By the way, it's Friday,
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Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We're talking about the politics
of racism, naked indefensible racism that is continuing to the
foundation of the Democrat Party. They've decided that the way
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to cure racism is by having explicit indefensible racism as
the foundation of their political party. His identity politics, I believe,
in conjunction with cancel culture, is the twin pillar of
the Democrat Party right now. They decide in every case
who to believe in who not to believe, not based
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on the facts of a case, but based on the
identity of the individuals involved.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And here's a little thought for all of you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Gavin Newsom said he's going to name a black woman
to the United States Senate. Is there any way that
they make a telephone call to Vice President Kamala Harris
and say, hey, would you like to go back to
the Senate?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't think Kamala will do it because I think
she's convinced that she's going to be the president of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think she's delusional.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't think she has any concept of the fact
that her political career is over. That basically she is
Dan Quayle. No offense dan Quayle, if you're listening, but
I know you know that feeling in nineteen eighty eight
when dan Quayle was attacked, I think, unlike any vice
president in most of our lives, and they destroyed his
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political viability. I think Kamala Harris is basically dealing with
her own dan Quayle moment. If she were conscious of
the situation that she's in, she would think to herself,
maybe I should just go back to the United States Senate.
I can spend the rest of my life there. I
can be there the next thirty or forty years, and
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that way I kind of sidestep all of these issues
associated with Joe Biden. Maybe I even open up the
entire Democrat primary. If I'm not the vice president anymore,
maybe I hasten Joe Biden stepping down. There are lots
of different angle associated with this. I don't think Kamala
Harris will do it. But when Gavin Newsom has made
it clear that only black women are available for this job,
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how many highly qualified black women are there in the
state of California that are prepared to be United States Senators?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I'm not an expert in the racial dynamics and politics
of California, but clearly Kamala Harris, who has already been
a black woman senator from California, would fulfill Gavin Newsom's
only two criteria that matter when it comes to appointing
a new Democrat senator. She is black, she is a woman.
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I think it's probably a phone call you have to make.
I presume the answers know, but it's something certainly worth
thinking about. When we come back, I'll take some of
your calls, but I'll also lay out why this legacy
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you hanging out with us. Friday edition of the program,
talking about Gavin Newsom saying that he is only going
to appoint a black woman to the United States Senate.
It's a choice that will have to be made soon,
probably because we're dealing with the looming impact potentially of
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a government shutdown. You might be out there saying, you
and Buck, you really haven't talked that much about it. Yeah,
because it's gonna eventually get resolved.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I just the.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Idea that the day by day nuts and bolts, nitty
gritty of government shutdowns is really going to impact things
in a substantial way. If we end up with a
shutdown this weekend, I think within the next ten days
or so we'll shut down, we'll end and everybody who
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wasn't working will get paid back pay, and everything basically
will be the exact same. So we haven't spent a
lot of time on that, but it is indicative, I
think of the rotten core of the modern Democrat Party
that identity politics is all that matters. That you could
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even say I'm only going to appoint a black woman
to this job, eliminating ninety four percent of people from
consideration for that job in the process, while also delegitimizing
your ultimate pick because you aren't saying she's the best
person for the job. You're saying she's the best black
woman for the job, which means she only beat out
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six percent of the population, not one hundred percent of
the population. But when you think about it, this is
an analogy that I think is so important and I
don't hear it made, and so I'm gonna hammer this
home for you. I bet every single person listening to
me right now read to Kill a Mockingbird at some
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point when you were in school, And if you didn't
read it, I bet your kids or grandkids read it.
Nearly one hundred percent penetration rate is is by many
statistical measures when they test these things. The most popular
novel ever written in the history of the United States,
Harper Lee To Kill a Mockingbird, came out in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For those of you who don't remember the.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Basic plot, the basic plot is this, a black man,
Tom Robinson, is accused of raping a white woman, Mayella Eule,
and Atticus Finch is the southern attorney in small town,
Alabama who is defending Tom Robinson in the nineteen thirties
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in the Jim Crow South, and his daughter Scout is
the first person narrator of this story. All of the
evidence reveals that Mayella Yule made up the rape. Tom
Robinson never raped her at all, but under the existing
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identity politics of nineteen thirties Alabama, of a pre civil
rights South, an all white jury convicted Tom Robinson of rape,
something that he did not do. Why did they convict
him entirely because of his race? The white woman had
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to be believed over the black man because those were
the identity politics rules of the pre civil rights South.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That was wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Scout, this young narrator of To Kill a Mockingbird is
astounded that truth and justice does not ultimately prevail, and
that what matters is not the facts of a case,
but your in that case. What Democrats are doing is
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the exact same thing that the racist jury in To
Kill a Mockingbird did. They are putting identity above all else.
They aren't taking America into a better future. They are
taking America into an awful past. This is really important
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and I was thinking about it a lot this morning
when I was doing my prep for the show, and
I saw those quotes from Gavin Newsom, and I thought
to myself, here we go again. Joe Biden said I'm
only going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He did it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Now Gavin Newsom is saying I'm only going to put
a black woman on the United States Senate. I think
he's probably going to do it. The modern day Democrat
Party is racist. They are the exact same identity politics
people who existed in the nineteen thirties, in the nineteen forties,
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in the nineteen fifties in the American South, in particular.
They aren't elevating America to a place where your own
success is determined by your own level of excellence, by
the content of your character, not by the color of
your skin. They're taking us back into a pre civil
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rights era in America where all that matters is the
color of your skin. And this, of course is building
on what happened to Brett Kavanaugh when we were all
told hashtag believe all women. This is an important truth.
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Men lie, women lie, White people lie, Black people lie,
Asian people lie, Hispanic people lie, heterosexual people lie, homosexual
people lie, trans people lie, All humans lie. That's why,
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in the ideal version of justice, Lady Justice standing with
the scales, she wears a blindfold.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why is she wearing a blindfold? Because she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Want the identity to impact how she weighs the scales justice.
That's what we aspire to in court, in justice itself,
that is why Lady Justice is blind. What we are
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now recreating is a world where facts do not matter,
where there is no analysis whatsoever of who is telling
the truth, but where instead the scales of justice are
impacted entirely based on the identity of the individuals involved
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in a case. I'm not here to tell you that
American justice is perfect. Certainly it's not. That's what Harper
Lee was pointing out when she wrote her book in
nineteen sixty about the pre Civil Rights South, that America
was failing to live up to the benedictions and appeals
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of the Declaration of Independence, that our more perfect union
had not been created where equality and meritocracy dominated, and
Democrats have just given up on that notion, and they
are nakedly embracing the argument that whether you are telling
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the truth is a function not of facts, but of
your identity. Whether it was with Brett Kavanaugh and his
accusers hashtag believe all women. You all know some women lie,
some men lie. You can never believe somebody based on
their sex. You also can't believe anyone based on their gender.
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It's the same thing as sex based on their race.
Based on their sexuality, every single identity group has liars
and truth tellers, and that is, to me, the root
cancer of American society today. It's that we don't decide
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in much of the American body politic whether someone is
innocent or guilty, whether they are or wrong, based on
analyzing all the facts and trying to be like Lady
Justice and strip away all of our preconceived notion. That's
why I became a lawyer, to try to be able
to find the truth in the adversarial system of our courtroom,
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of our justice system in general.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We don't do that anymore. And it all ties together.
You can see.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's what's going on with Donald Trump. That's why he's
being charged. You can add politics in. If Donald Trump
had run as a Democrat, he would have never been
charged with any of these crimes. Donald Trump is being
prosecuted because of his identity as a Republican. Many of
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you out there, you know what I heard most often
when I was on my book tour. Most often I
heard people came up to me they said, you say
what I wish I could say. We live in America
where the culture of fear is so prevalent that every
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single one of you listening to me right now has
had an opinion at some point in the last decade
that you were afraid to put on Facebook, that you
were afraid to share at work, that you were afraid
to actually make public because you knew that based on
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your identity, you might lose your job, you might not
be able to pay your mortgage, you might not be
able to afford to pay for your kids to go
to community college, or to go to college, or to
go try to gain some skill in trade that you're
helping to raise them for.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's wrong, and it's all.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Rooted in identity politics, which is the toxic cancer of
the Democrat Party and it must be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
But right now they're not even hiding it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
They're saying to you straight out in the open, Gavin Newsom,
who wants to be the next president of the United
States for Democrats, I'm picking someone because she's a black woman.
And you know what they'll use is their justification. If
Gavin Newsom were coming on this program right now, you
know why, he'd say he's doing it because of the
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show fired up
with all of you on a Friday. A lot of
reactions pouring in. Appreciate all of you out there. I'm
going to take some of your calls here. We'll continue
to do it throughout the course of Friday. Reminder, if
you're just getting in your cars, just starting off your
day listening to us. Doug Bergham, he is the only
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person who was on the stage Wednesday that we have
not had on the program so far. He's North Dakota's governor.
He's running for president of the United States. I thought
he had a good performance on the debate stage on Wednesday.
We'll have him on at one thirty. And then Tommy Larin,
who works with me at OutKick on Fox News all.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Of the time. Many of you will know her.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
She does a fabulous show on the OutKick network. She
will be with us at two thirty. Brian down in
Panama City, Florida. I love it down there. I've got
a place in Rosemary Beach. It is heaven on earth.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
What you got for us, it is having on Earth.
It was like sixty eight degrees this morning.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was gorgeous, starting to feel a little bit like
fall in the South for the first time.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yes on Governor Knus announcing that he's going to pick
one race or another, Like you can't do that when
you're hiring somebody that's illegal. You can't do like workplace discrimination.
Most of us wander around our day to day lives
at work, you know, stepping on eggshells because you can't
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do that stuff in the workplace. So how does that
not apply in this situation. I know he's not hiring
someone like he's running a business, but he is hiring someone.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It is such a thank you for the call. It
is such a fantastic question. And particularly I would say,
in the wake of the decision striking down the use
of affirmative action effectively in colleges and universities, you couldn't
do what Joe Biden did putting Katanji Brown Jackson on
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the Supreme Court. You couldn't do that at a college
or university. I don't think somebody could come out and say, hey,
I'm only going to appoint a black woman as the
next president publicly say that.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I think there's a challenge that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Could be made legally on Gavin Newsom for saying he's
only going to appoint a black woman. To me flagrantly unconstitutional.
He can appoint a black woman again. I think he's
actually insulting black women everywhere by saying he's only going
to appoint a black woman. Why not just appoint a
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black woman, give us a list of people you considered,
say she's the best nominee. I don't understand why Joe
Biden couldn't have done that. And of course I do
understand why, because the rules of racism in the Democrat
Party require that you bend your knee in front of
groups that you believe have historically been discriminated against. That's
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the rationale that they're using. Kevin and Dayton Ohio. Kevin,
what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah? I was so intrigued, guess by your thesis regarding
the friendship between Gavin Newsom and Trump. Yeah, and I
kept waiting to hear. I mean, I and a lot
of my conservative friends believe that Biden will not actually
be the nominee. What about the idea that Gavin Newsom
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will be dropped in at the convention? What does that
do to your theory of wanting Trump to win?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So I think the problem with that is I don't
understand how they pick Gavin Newsom over Kamala Harris. So
my theory for people who didn't hear it yesterday, is
if you listen to everything that Gavin Newsom is saying
the way he's attacked every single Republican candidate but Trump,
he says almost nothing negative about Trump at all. The
fact that he's going on Fox News. The only thing
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that makes sense to me rationally is Gavin Newsom wants
Trump to win because that would necap Kamala Harris. Because
Gavin Newsom ultimately is painted into a corner under these
racial politics standards that he is continuing to enforce. He says,
I'm only going to appoint a black woman to the
United States Senate. How can he justify jumping over the
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black woman who is the sitting Vice president of the
United States. It's racist by Democrat Party identity politics standards.
So I don't think that they could elevate Gavin Newsom
over Joe Biden. They have to figure out a solution
for the Kamala Harris problem because it's racist, in sexist
by Democrat party standards for her not to be the
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next man or next woman up. And that is ultimately
why I think Gavin Newsom wants Biden to lose because
Kamala does too.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are ready to roll into the
weekend with me today. Buck would much rather be here,
but he is in the process of moving into a
new place in Florida, so he and Carrie are engaging
(00:26):
in that always difficult task. He'll be back with me
on Monday. It's just me and you rolling through on Friday,
headed into the weekend. A little bit of a roadmap
of where we're headed. Doug Bergham is going to join
us at one thirty. North Dakota governor had a pretty solid,
I thought performance on the stage Wednesday night out in
(00:46):
the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, and he has not yet
been on the program.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I think he's the only person who.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Was on the stage that has not yet been on
The Clay and Buck Show who is running for president
there in the Republican primary. So we will talk with
him at one thirty. My friend Tommy larn OutKick employee
Fox News in Presario, she will be on with us
at two thirty. That is where we are headed, but
we begin with some breaking news happened this morning that
(01:16):
is going to have many different ripple effects going forward.
And let's start with condolences. Diane Feinstein, ninety years old,
longest serving woman senator in the history of the United States.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
She died.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
She passed this morning at the age of ninety. Now, unfortunately,
she has been in the news a great deal of
late because she hasn't had the mental faculties and been
able to do her job as Senator. And we've talked
about this some on the program because in a tightly
contested fifty one to forty nine Senate, and that's being
(01:55):
generous because Joe Manchin, Kirsten Cinema aren't really reliable Tomocrat voters.
As you know, Cinema now is an independent mansion, has
flirted with independence. There isn't really a tangible majority in
the United States Senate. So now with Robert Menendez underfire
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demands for him to resign in New Jersey, Democrats are
in peril there. And now with Dianne Feinstein's death, Gavin Newsom,
the governor of California, is forced to appoint a replacement
for her. Now here's the challenge. Her tenure was set
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to expire next year. It was reckless of her to
run and still be in office. To this point, she
did not have the ability to even make her own
decisions in her own life, and she was still voting
as a United States center She has a power of
attorney that she signed over to her family members. That
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means that she was able to bind the United States
by voting as a senator, but she was not able
to contractually bind herself as an individual in her own life.
That's scary. She has a legacy. She was a very
powerful senator. She has a long legacy of serving this country.
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But in the last several years, that legacy vanished to
the point where she really didn't know what was going
on from one moment to the next. And if you
saw her speaking in committees, you could tell that she
had no real idea what was taking place. And unfortunately,
there are many different members of the United States government
(03:44):
who are still in that position. Let's play. Let me
play for you. Here is Joe Biden on Dianne Feinstein. Listen,
I believe that's cut.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Your senat Diane Feinstein, who passed away this morning. She
was an historic figure, trailblazer for women and a great
friend and made her mark and everything from national security
to the environment, gun safety, to protecting civil liberties. Country's
going to miss her daily, and so will Jill. And
I have more to say about her later today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Okay, here's the reality. And I think it's hard not
to think about this when you hear Joe Biden talking
about Dianne Feinstein. She shouldn't have run for the last
term of office in the Senate. It was reckless for
her to do so. She was elected at eighty four
or eighty five years old for that final six year term.
(04:41):
I feel like that same thing is going to happen
with Joe Biden, and I hate that you have to
have this conversation, but it is of paramount importance that
the leaders of this country have the physical and mental
ability to be able to do the jobs. So we'll
talk about Joe Biden here in a moment. But in
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the short term, politically, this is a mess for Gavin
Newsom because Gavin Newsom, governor of California, has come out
and said the same thing that Joe Biden said, which
is he'll only pick a black woman to replace this
particular absence. If you'll remember Joe Biden, when he was
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campaigning in February of twenty twenty, said that on the
Supreme Court he would only place a black woman. That
is how we ended up with Katanji Brown Jackson as
the newest Supreme Court Justice. Well, Gavin Newsom said the
same thing. I believe we have audio of him saying,
if I need to make an appointment, it will be
a black woman.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Listen, if in fact, Diane Feinstein were to retire, will
you nominate an African American woman to restore the seat
that Kamala Harris is no longer in the United States Senate?
And do you have a name in mind?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I have multiple, we have multiple names of mind. And
the answer is yes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So he has now done the same thing that Joe
Biden did, which is commit to racism and sexism as
the sole factor upon which he is going to make
a determination to pick someone to replace Diane Feinstein, just
as Joe Biden did for a Supreme Court justice. To
me this, it's hard to find a more perfect representation
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of the identity politics taking over of the Democrat Party
than these two decisions in concert, because beyond the shadow
of a doubt, they are sexist and racist. Ninety four
percent of Americans are not black women. That means that
Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom are both saying, at the outset,
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ninety four percent of the American population, I will not
consider for these jobs. And when they make that comment,
what they are saying is that you should be judged
entirely by something that you did not choose. This is important.
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None of us choose our gender, none of us with
functional brains, certainly not at birth. And we also don't
choose our race. Those are things that we are born with.
To me, your race and your gender are two of
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the least interesting things about you because they say nothing
about the individual choices in life that you are made making.
But also when you are saying that we are going
to completely eliminate all criteria other than your race and
your gender as now Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom both
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have said fulfilling incredibly important roles in the United States government,
what you are saying is you're simultaneously being sexist and
racist directly while cutting the legs out from under the
person that you are selecting. Look at what Trump did
(08:17):
in twenty sixteen. I think this was a big reason
why Trump won. There's a lot of nervousness about what
he might do with the Supreme Court. I think one
of the most brilliant things Trump did in his twenty
sixteen campaign was he said, Hey, here's a list of
all the highly qualified judges that I will consider in
the event that there is a Supreme Court vacancy. And
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he put that list out and it was well vetted. Federalist
Society had done a good job picking excellent candidates, and
he said, here's the list, look at it, and ultimately
Trump picked judges off the list.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Joe Biden could have done that, Lavin Newsom could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now they could say, hey, here's a list of all
the people that I'm considering for Supreme Court. Here's a
list of all the people that I'm considering for this
Senate vacancy, and we could all go look at that list.
Media out there could do their deep dive. Politically, everybody
could argue in favor of whoever they think is the
best choice. And then if Joe Biden or Gavin Newsom
(09:24):
had picked a black woman, they could step in front
of the cameras alongside of their choice and they could
argue they looked at the whole list, and they picked
the most qualified candidate. They picked the best man the
best woman that was on that list in their opinion.
And you or I might not agree with that. We
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might even say, well, this is still identity politics, but
the nominee would not have been selected entirely based on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Her race or her gender.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When you say I'm only going to pick someone of
a particular race or particular gender, it is both racist
and sexist. It also de legitimizes at the moment that
you select them the person that you are putting into
that office. Because you aren't even giving the indication that
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that person was the best available for the job. You
are playing naked identity politics. You are engaging in racism
and sexism. And this fires me up because it is
a direct refutation of everything that America stands for, the
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idea that the meritocracy should govern who ends up in
positions of power. The best man or the best woman
should win, by the way, not the best man pretending to.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Be a woman. But that's an entirely different story.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Already, Gavin Newsom has stripped away the legitimacy of whomever
he selects for the Senate because he is saying, I'm
not picking the best man or the best woman, I'm
picking a black woman. And you can't even argue that
that black woman is being selected and believes and Gavin
Newsom believes that she is the best person for the job,
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because he's already said he's not even going to consider
ninety four percent of the American population for that job.
This is everything that's wrong with identity politics which has
taken over the Democrat Party. And ultimately the irony here
is Gavin Newsom knows it. Because Gavin Newsom, this is
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why I said yesterday, Gavin Newsom wants Trump to win
because he knows that the politics of his own party
make it almost impossible for him to end up a
presidential nominee if Kamala Harris is sitting there because by
his own standing and his own decisions, it would be
racist and sexist for Kamala Harris not to be the
twenty twenty eight Democrat Party nominee for president. In saying
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that he's only going to pick a black woman, this
should be a disqualifying moment of electoral politics for anyone.
If we truly cared about having an American society that
is equal for everyone. The way to solve issues of
racism in America is not by engaging in direct issue
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of racism. Racism doesn't cure racism. I'm going to tell
you a story in a little bit about a book
that I bet all of you read that has now
been rejected by the Democrat Party. It's called to Kill
a Mockingbird. The entire purpose of To Kill a Mockingbird
was the idea we all should be judged based on
(12:53):
what is and is not true, regardless of what our
gender or our race might be. I met every single
person almost listening to me right now at some point seventh,
eight ninth grade, tenth grade in school, you were probably
assigned to kill a mockingbird. The Democrat Party is now
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the villains of the book To Kill a Mockingbird, because
they believe all that should matter when it comes to
judging truth, justice, fairness in American society is the identity
of the individuals involved, not the facts and the truth.
I'm fired up about this. By the way, it's Friday,
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Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We're talking about the politics
of racism, naked indefensible racism that is continuing to the
foundation of the Democrat Party. They've decided that the way
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to cure racism is by having explicit indefensible racism as
the foundation of their political party. His identity politics, I believe,
in conjunction with cancel culture, is the twin pillar of
the Democrat Party right now. They decide in every case
who to believe in who not to believe, not based
(15:24):
on the facts of a case, but based on the
identity of the individuals involved.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And here's a little thought for all of you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Gavin Newsom said he's going to name a black woman
to the United States Senate. Is there any way that
they make a telephone call to Vice President Kamala Harris
and say, hey, would you like to go back to
the Senate?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't think Kamala will do it because I think
she's convinced that she's going to be the president of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think she's delusional.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't think she has any concept of the fact
that her political career is over. That basically she is
Dan Quayle. No offense dan Quayle, if you're listening, but
I know you know that feeling in nineteen eighty eight
when dan Quayle was attacked, I think, unlike any vice
president in most of our lives, and they destroyed his
(16:23):
political viability. I think Kamala Harris is basically dealing with
her own dan Quayle moment. If she were conscious of
the situation that she's in, she would think to herself,
maybe I should just go back to the United States Senate.
I can spend the rest of my life there. I
can be there the next thirty or forty years, and
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that way I kind of sidestep all of these issues
associated with Joe Biden. Maybe I even open up the
entire Democrat primary. If I'm not the vice president anymore,
maybe I hasten Joe Biden stepping down. There are lots
of different angle associated with this. I don't think Kamala
Harris will do it. But when Gavin Newsom has made
it clear that only black women are available for this job,
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how many highly qualified black women are there in the
state of California that are prepared to be United States Senators?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I'm not an expert in the racial dynamics and politics
of California, but clearly Kamala Harris, who has already been
a black woman senator from California, would fulfill Gavin Newsom's
only two criteria that matter when it comes to appointing
a new Democrat senator. She is black, she is a woman.
(17:43):
I think it's probably a phone call you have to make.
I presume the answers know, but it's something certainly worth
thinking about. When we come back, I'll take some of
your calls, but I'll also lay out why this legacy
of racism in the Democrat Party is so particularly pernicious
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you hanging out with us. Friday edition of the program,
talking about Gavin Newsom saying that he is only going
to appoint a black woman to the United States Senate.
It's a choice that will have to be made soon,
probably because we're dealing with the looming impact potentially of
(19:14):
a government shutdown. You might be out there saying, you
and Buck, you really haven't talked that much about it. Yeah,
because it's gonna eventually get resolved.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I just the.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Idea that the day by day nuts and bolts, nitty
gritty of government shutdowns is really going to impact things
in a substantial way. If we end up with a
shutdown this weekend, I think within the next ten days
or so we'll shut down, we'll end and everybody who
(19:45):
wasn't working will get paid back pay, and everything basically
will be the exact same. So we haven't spent a
lot of time on that, but it is indicative, I
think of the rotten core of the modern Democrat Party
that identity politics is all that matters. That you could
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even say I'm only going to appoint a black woman
to this job, eliminating ninety four percent of people from
consideration for that job in the process, while also delegitimizing
your ultimate pick because you aren't saying she's the best
person for the job. You're saying she's the best black
woman for the job, which means she only beat out
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six percent of the population, not one hundred percent of
the population. But when you think about it, this is
an analogy that I think is so important and I
don't hear it made, and so I'm gonna hammer this
home for you. I bet every single person listening to
me right now read to Kill a Mockingbird at some
(20:50):
point when you were in school, And if you didn't
read it, I bet your kids or grandkids read it.
Nearly one hundred percent penetration rate is is by many
statistical measures when they test these things. The most popular
novel ever written in the history of the United States,
Harper Lee To Kill a Mockingbird, came out in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For those of you who don't remember the.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Basic plot, the basic plot is this, a black man,
Tom Robinson, is accused of raping a white woman, Mayella Eule,
and Atticus Finch is the southern attorney in small town,
Alabama who is defending Tom Robinson in the nineteen thirties
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in the Jim Crow South, and his daughter Scout is
the first person narrator of this story. All of the
evidence reveals that Mayella Yule made up the rape. Tom
Robinson never raped her at all, but under the existing
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identity politics of nineteen thirties Alabama, of a pre civil
rights South, an all white jury convicted Tom Robinson of rape,
something that he did not do. Why did they convict
him entirely because of his race? The white woman had
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to be believed over the black man because those were
the identity politics rules of the pre civil rights South.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That was wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Scout, this young narrator of To Kill a Mockingbird is
astounded that truth and justice does not ultimately prevail, and
that what matters is not the facts of a case,
but your in that case. What Democrats are doing is
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the exact same thing that the racist jury in To
Kill a Mockingbird did. They are putting identity above all else.
They aren't taking America into a better future. They are
taking America into an awful past. This is really important
(23:36):
and I was thinking about it a lot this morning
when I was doing my prep for the show, and
I saw those quotes from Gavin Newsom, and I thought
to myself, here we go again. Joe Biden said I'm
only going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He did it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Now Gavin Newsom is saying I'm only going to put
a black woman on the United States Senate. I think
he's probably going to do it. The modern day Democrat
Party is racist. They are the exact same identity politics
people who existed in the nineteen thirties, in the nineteen forties,
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in the nineteen fifties in the American South, in particular.
They aren't elevating America to a place where your own
success is determined by your own level of excellence, by
the content of your character, not by the color of
your skin. They're taking us back into a pre civil
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rights era in America where all that matters is the
color of your skin. And this, of course is building
on what happened to Brett Kavanaugh when we were all
told hashtag believe all women. This is an important truth.
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Men lie, women lie, White people lie, Black people lie,
Asian people lie, Hispanic people lie, heterosexual people lie, homosexual
people lie, trans people lie, All humans lie. That's why,
(25:23):
in the ideal version of justice, Lady Justice standing with
the scales, she wears a blindfold.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why is she wearing a blindfold? Because she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Want the identity to impact how she weighs the scales justice.
That's what we aspire to in court, in justice itself,
that is why Lady Justice is blind. What we are
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now recreating is a world where facts do not matter,
where there is no analysis whatsoever of who is telling
the truth, but where instead the scales of justice are
impacted entirely based on the identity of the individuals involved
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in a case. I'm not here to tell you that
American justice is perfect. Certainly it's not. That's what Harper
Lee was pointing out when she wrote her book in
nineteen sixty about the pre Civil Rights South, that America
was failing to live up to the benedictions and appeals
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of the Declaration of Independence, that our more perfect union
had not been created where equality and meritocracy dominated, and
Democrats have just given up on that notion, and they
are nakedly embracing the argument that whether you are telling
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the truth is a function not of facts, but of
your identity. Whether it was with Brett Kavanaugh and his
accusers hashtag believe all women. You all know some women lie,
some men lie. You can never believe somebody based on
their sex. You also can't believe anyone based on their gender.
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It's the same thing as sex based on their race.
Based on their sexuality, every single identity group has liars
and truth tellers, and that is, to me, the root
cancer of American society today. It's that we don't decide
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in much of the American body politic whether someone is
innocent or guilty, whether they are or wrong, based on
analyzing all the facts and trying to be like Lady
Justice and strip away all of our preconceived notion. That's
why I became a lawyer, to try to be able
to find the truth in the adversarial system of our courtroom,
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of our justice system in general.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We don't do that anymore. And it all ties together.
You can see.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's what's going on with Donald Trump. That's why he's
being charged. You can add politics in. If Donald Trump
had run as a Democrat, he would have never been
charged with any of these crimes. Donald Trump is being
prosecuted because of his identity as a Republican. Many of
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you out there, you know what I heard most often
when I was on my book tour. Most often I
heard people came up to me they said, you say
what I wish I could say. We live in America
where the culture of fear is so prevalent that every
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single one of you listening to me right now has
had an opinion at some point in the last decade
that you were afraid to put on Facebook, that you
were afraid to share at work, that you were afraid
to actually make public because you knew that based on
(29:28):
your identity, you might lose your job, you might not
be able to pay your mortgage, you might not be
able to afford to pay for your kids to go
to community college, or to go to college, or to
go try to gain some skill in trade that you're
helping to raise them for.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's wrong, and it's all.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Rooted in identity politics, which is the toxic cancer of
the Democrat Party and it must be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
But right now they're not even hiding it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
They're saying to you straight out in the open, Gavin Newsom,
who wants to be the next president of the United
States for Democrats, I'm picking someone because she's a black woman.
And you know what they'll use is their justification. If
Gavin Newsom were coming on this program right now, you
know why, he'd say he's doing it because of the
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show fired up
with all of you on a Friday. A lot of
reactions pouring in. Appreciate all of you out there. I'm
going to take some of your calls here. We'll continue
to do it throughout the course of Friday. Reminder, if
you're just getting in your cars, just starting off your
day listening to us. Doug Bergham, he is the only
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person who was on the stage Wednesday that we have
not had on the program so far. He's North Dakota's governor.
He's running for president of the United States. I thought
he had a good performance on the debate stage on Wednesday.
We'll have him on at one thirty. And then Tommy Larin,
who works with me at OutKick on Fox News all.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Of the time. Many of you will know her.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
She does a fabulous show on the OutKick network. She
will be with us at two thirty. Brian down in
Panama City, Florida. I love it down there. I've got
a place in Rosemary Beach. It is heaven on earth.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
What you got for us, it is having on Earth.
It was like sixty eight degrees this morning.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was gorgeous, starting to feel a little bit like
fall in the South for the first time.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yes on Governor Knus announcing that he's going to pick
one race or another, Like you can't do that when
you're hiring somebody that's illegal. You can't do like workplace discrimination.
Most of us wander around our day to day lives
at work, you know, stepping on eggshells because you can't
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do that stuff in the workplace. So how does that
not apply in this situation. I know he's not hiring
someone like he's running a business, but he is hiring someone.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It is such a thank you for the call. It
is such a fantastic question. And particularly I would say,
in the wake of the decision striking down the use
of affirmative action effectively in colleges and universities, you couldn't
do what Joe Biden did putting Katanji Brown Jackson on
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the Supreme Court. You couldn't do that at a college
or university. I don't think somebody could come out and say, hey,
I'm only going to appoint a black woman as the
next president publicly say that.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I think there's a challenge that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Could be made legally on Gavin Newsom for saying he's
only going to appoint a black woman. To me flagrantly unconstitutional.
He can appoint a black woman again. I think he's
actually insulting black women everywhere by saying he's only going
to appoint a black woman. Why not just appoint a
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black woman, give us a list of people you considered,
say she's the best nominee. I don't understand why Joe
Biden couldn't have done that. And of course I do
understand why, because the rules of racism in the Democrat
Party require that you bend your knee in front of
groups that you believe have historically been discriminated against. That's
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the rationale that they're using. Kevin and Dayton Ohio. Kevin,
what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah? I was so intrigued, guess by your thesis regarding
the friendship between Gavin Newsom and Trump. Yeah, and I
kept waiting to hear. I mean, I and a lot
of my conservative friends believe that Biden will not actually
be the nominee. What about the idea that Gavin Newsom
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will be dropped in at the convention? What does that
do to your theory of wanting Trump to win?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So I think the problem with that is I don't
understand how they pick Gavin Newsom over Kamala Harris. So
my theory for people who didn't hear it yesterday, is
if you listen to everything that Gavin Newsom is saying
the way he's attacked every single Republican candidate but Trump,
he says almost nothing negative about Trump at all. The
fact that he's going on Fox News. The only thing
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that makes sense to me rationally is Gavin Newsom wants
Trump to win because that would necap Kamala Harris. Because
Gavin Newsom ultimately is painted into a corner under these
racial politics standards that he is continuing to enforce. He says,
I'm only going to appoint a black woman to the
United States Senate. How can he justify jumping over the
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black woman who is the sitting Vice president of the
United States. It's racist by Democrat Party identity politics standards.
So I don't think that they could elevate Gavin Newsom
over Joe Biden. They have to figure out a solution
for the Kamala Harris problem because it's racist, in sexist
by Democrat party standards for her not to be the
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next man or next woman up. And that is ultimately
why I think Gavin Newsom wants Biden to lose because
Kamala does too.
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