September 12, 2024 • 36 mins
MSNBC attacks Trump supporters. Audio of Kamala saying she wants free trans surgery for prison inmates. Clip of Kamala at debate denying she wants to take away guns, and old clip saying she supports mandatory gun buyback programs. Kamala has flip-flopped more than any candidate in memory. Union caller for Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in now. We hope all of you are having
a fantastic Thursday, wherever you may be across this great country.
We got three hours of fun coming your way. No
matter what is going on in the world at large,
We're going to make you have hopefully a pretty good
time and make you a little bit smarter than you
otherwise would have been. About all of the issues of
(00:22):
the day. We'll talk about the continued fallout of the
Tuesday Night debate, to the extent that there is any there.
We will talk with our friend Chip Roy, congressman from
Texas about the situation on the border. We will give
you the latest from the numbers and what we are
seeing in all of the markets out there, both poll
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and gambling markets, as well as the data behind them.
But we began buck, I want to kind of talk
about the way that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC.
MSNBC in particular, although it also happens on CNN and
certainly is embedded in much of the reporting that goes
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on in the New York Times and in Washington Post,
is a level of personal attack that virtually never happens
when it comes to the reverse and when it does happen,
they turn it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking
about Jade Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of
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years ago that a lot of Democrats were childless cat
women and they grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls
and fall on the fainting couch, And oh my goodness.
What about the rhetoric and what they say about us
and all of those things. There's very little actually negative
said about Kamala Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on
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the other hand, are attacked violently, nastily all the time.
And I was thinking about that this week sum and
then this clip surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who
frankly may have the dumbest show of all of the
shows that air on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips
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from her show and just think there's no way someone
with a functional IQ could be putting on this kind
of program consistently. So there are lots of dumb people
at MSNBC on air. There are also people who are
willingly lying, Like I don't think Rachel Maddow is dumb.
I think she just is a propagandist. But the attacks
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on Trump supporters in particular are pretty crazy to see,
and there are no functional equivalents to this. I feel
quite confident on Fox News. But here is the Nation's
Elie Mustell telling Joy Reid. Trump supporters are despicable. Listen
to cut three.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everything he does is despicable.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The reason why it doesn't and his career is because
his supporters aren't just as despicable, all right, Like Trump's
whole thing. He's a narcissist, right, and so his whole
thing is to have a complete lack of compassion and
empathy for everybody else. It's all about him. That's why
he lies about nine to eleven. It's all about and him, me, me, me.
He's probably the least compassionate president we've had in two
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hundred years.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Since Andrew Jackson.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And it works for him because his supporters are just
as ungenerous and have just as little compassion and empathy
for others. And that's why it never hurts Trump when
he takes these crass and classless actions, is because his
supporters think that being crass and classless is actually kind
of cool.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters over
my life. Buck many of them are listening to us
right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote.
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There were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago. I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
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an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see. She said. The Trump people
were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to tell her how
much they loved America and how much they were fans
of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by and large, to
the extent that those people even exist, just wanted to
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tell you how much they hated the Trump people. I
think that's reflected actually in the country. The Trump supporters
that I have met are some of the greatest patriots
and some of the nicest people out there, whereas it
seems to me the Kamala people and before them, the
in people by and large have just decided they hate
the Trump people. They don't really like their side as
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much as they hate the other. Does that reflect some
of what you've seen as well? Of course, also it
is right in line with the truth of the modern
Democrat party, which is that it is a religion, and
it's not a religion based around one person. To be
a Democrat a liberal, although that's a very poor word
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choice really for what they are. They're really authoritarian collectivists.
They're not in any meaningful way liberal about anything. They
don't believe in liberty on an individual basis. Therefore, I
think the term liberal for them is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist,
whatever you want to call them. Democrats have replaced so
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much of what we think of as I don't know
if you want to say, different aspects of your personality,
but different aspects of life with it's all about being
a Democrat. You're a Democrat and everything. You're a Democrat.
When you're watching a sports game, you're, you know, a Democrat.
At the grocery store and they wear this on their sleeve.
And I think it's because it is giving a lot
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of people. I mean, if we're getting into a little
bit of Freudian analysis, maybe here of the Democrat Party today,
it gives people purpose who otherwise feel like they lack
purpose or they have an insecurity about what their contribution is,
what their abilities are in a society that is based
on individual stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation
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may be. So yeah, I think there's a lot of
unhappy people who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're
talking about generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So there's clearly a lot of you know, I know,
happy Democrats. I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah,
I think there's a bitterness about the Democrat Party. You
know Trump, they always try to do this thing. And
I didn't get to see Morning Joe this morning, which
was a shame, but whenever I do watch it, one
of the most common themes you come across Clay is
Trump hates this country, says it's going to hell and
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all this stuff. Well, what Trump is saying is that
he thinks the current leadership is running this country into
the ground the wrong direction. But he actually loves America
on the merits and thinks it's a very special place.
I think the Democrats, if you're looking at the ideology
of their movement, I think that they view America as
a deeply flawed, deeply racist, deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy,
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rooted in oppression. And these are all negatives, These are
all archetypes of a negative belief. But also what they
say at MSNBC. I don't usually spend too much time
on it. The people on MSNBC are generally not very bright.
Just the truth, they're just definitely not very smart. They
are smarter, much smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just
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dance to the required tune on TV. But at MSNBC,
they have some straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies, and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
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is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet, and it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in, where it's
fifty four days toil the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
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things said about Kamala. And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back and read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stab people today because we tend to
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think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, the he's an awful guy. But it is
kind of crazy to think that what exactly was going
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on historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
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talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have since the last election at this time,
and so there's gonna be this sense of exaggeration. But
I will tell you the the going after the other
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side supporters. I mean, this is why I just said,
MSNBC is just sort of dumb to suggest that Trump
supporters they don't actually know what Trump supporters think. Never
mind how Trumps supporters aren't They don't have friends really
who are Trump supporters in these left wing circles, They
honestly are completely cloistered from the reality of why people
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Why are people attracted to Trump. It's not actually because
he's mean, you know, it's it's not actually because of
his narcissism or whatever that guy was saying the American people,
a lot of them have very real concerns that stem
from poor governance, particularly from what feels like a uniparty
elite that doesn't care as the middle class continuously just
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gets squeezed by policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending,
that punish savers at the and benefit asset holders and
UH and that open the borders wide, and that allow
us to suffer from more criminality than we should because
of concerns over social justice. And these are all very
real things. And they're running an absolute clown to be
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presidents of the United States right now, and they had
a dementia pat clown before that, and they're gonna they're
gonna lecture us on who should be in charge. I mean,
this is if they're putting forward serious people who were
really bright and really on it and had a real
vision play, I would say that's that's maybe I disagree
with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they can
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do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not only unseerious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
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who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation, the opposite opinion,
like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it truly
is staggering. And this is why she's not actually doing
any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how much
she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
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everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And remember Bernie spoke the truth here when he said,
and I think this is so important. We played this
clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any of this.
He's just saying it because she needs to get elected.
Of course, he said the quiet part aloud, and I
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Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to
get to some of your calls coming up here this
hour on now that we've had everything settle in a
little bit with the debate situation, how are you feeling.
I'm feeling good. I gotta tell you the Buckster is
feeling good about how the Trumpster is gonna do. I
still I'm confident, not over confident, but I think with
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continued focus, he's going to get it done. This time.
I wanted to point something out here and Clay and
I are going to dive into this. Some of the
fact checks that happened. You know, there's this back and forth.
Why wasn't we know why Kamala wasn't fact checked? Okay,
we have to point it out, but we all know why.
But on the issue of whether she wants trans taxpayer
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funded trends surgeries for both illegals and for prison inmates,
instead of just telling you what her position is, well
let her tell you. This was Kamala Harris back in
twenty nineteen on the issue of trans surgeries for inmates.
Listen to this moderate who wants to build a wall now,
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she says, Kamala Harris, play it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
They were standing in the way of surgery for prisoners,
and there was a specific case. And when I learned
about the case, I work behind the scenes to not
only make sure that that transgender woman got s she
was deserving.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So it was not only about that case.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I made sure that they changed the policy in the
state of California so that every transgender the inmate in
the prison system would have access to the medical care
that they desire to need. And I believe it was
not only I know it was historic in California, but
I believe actually it may have been one of the
first if not the first in the country where I
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pushed for that policy in a department of corrections.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A pioneer in the realm clay of taxpayer funded trans
surgery for inmates. Oh, by the way, I assure you,
she thinks that a man who has a transsurgery to
become a woman should be in a woman's prison.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, which is absolutely insane. She also believes that transgender
surgery should be provided for immigrants in migrant shelters, meaning
in both cases, your taxpayer dollars should go to be
changing and changing is in quotation marks can't change a gender,
but for surgery that would be designed to try to
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allow someone to pretend to be a different gender than
what they are. I mean, I lose my mind over
the way that tax dollars get spent. Now, the idea
that this would be done, These surgeries buck are insanely
expensive expensive. Yep, it's not like you're look. Inmates do
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deserve some medical treatment, right, they have to be. But
the idea that you would get elective surgery to inmates
that are paid for by taxpayers is beyond insane.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, we're also going to pay for you know,
lip injections and Brazilian butt lifts and all these things
that you know, all these cosmetic surgeries too. I mean,
why not just put it on the taxpayer tab. That's
exactly right.
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with us. Look, Kamala Harris is lying about everything, and
she's lying about I mean, let's just be honest, She's
lying about what she actually believes. I think this is
important because a lot of times they say, oh, Trump's lying,
and it's really just because Trump has a hyperbolic way
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of speaking, right, So he'll say she's the worst that's
ever lived, and they're like, actually, she's not the worst person, like, right,
So that's just kind of the way that he speaks hyperbolically.
But he's right on the essence of the issues which
most of you understand. There are things that Kamala Harris
now says she supports which she has called racist, i e.
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A border wall. There are things that Kamala Harris supports
that she has said she could not support because her
baby niece's futures mattered too much, fracking. There are things
that aren't that significant in the grand scheme of things
that Kamala Harris now says she does not support that
she previously said she supported, like plastic straws, which everybody
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needs plastic straws because any other kind of straw basically
doesn't work. It's either paper and stops working, or it's
metal and it threatens to murder you every time you
try to use it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
These metal straws are crazy, like some of these that
you see, So it's important to be playing these clips.
This is why Kamala is hiding. This is why I
was disappointed in Trump on Tuesday, because I'm not sure
that there's ever been a more fertile opportunity to expose
the inauthentic lies of a candidate than Kamala. Here is
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one that has been clipped together. Kamala said she had
no interest in taking your guns at all. Here's the problem.
She said that she supports mandatory gun buybacks. In addition
to not even being willing to answer questions buck about
whether she still supports reparation or whether she still supports
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transgender surgeries for inmates and ilegal immigrants. She now says
it's a lie to claim that she wants to take
your guns, except she said it.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Listen, this business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls
and I are both gun owners We're not taking anybody's
guns away, So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff.
I support buybacks and it's something I'm so passionate about
and I'm so looking forward to being president to address.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We've got to deal with this mandatory. Is you're a
gun buy back program? It's mandatory, Okay, mandatory that is
confiscation by another name, and it is Look, she lied,
we know she lied, but uh this it's actually perfectly
because not only does she lying about what she believes,
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she's also presenting herself as something that she really isn't.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh, I mean, first of all, I want to know
what kind of gun Kamala Harrison's. I'm curious too. Maybe
she does.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was an opportunity, by the way, for Trump to
actually expose her a bit. He should have said, oh,
that's interesting you have. And I'm not claiming to be
a gun guy. You're a gun guy, but just have
her explain what kind of gun she has.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm picking up my second gun safe, I think this week,
because my first gun safe is too full. So she
I would want to know first of all, in California,
in San Francisco, I would assume it's she's dealing with
a may may issue, not a shall issue.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
For a gun permit, you definitely need some kind of
a permit. He lives in LA now, by the way,
she doesn't live in anymore. Yeah, so I'm sure I
think it is probably similar.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So what I would want to know is, oh, if
she owns a gun, and I must be clear, I
don't know. I mean, I find it. I want to
know what kind of gun this is, Like, I want
to know if this is true or not. I'm not
taking it for granted that it's true, but if it
is true, did she manage to go through some special
process because she had been a prosecutor beforehand? As in,
is this like the con seal carry permits in New
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York City for a long time, which were essentially a
privilege of the privileged if you were rich, Yeah, if
you were connected, if you were famous, you could get
a concealed kerry permit. If you just wanted to defend
yourself because you're in a high crime neighborhood and you
didn't feel like being robbed and shot, too bad for you.
I'm just you know, Kamma says she's a gun owner.
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I want to know more about this. The media is
not going to check. They're not going to look into it.
I'm sure there are registrations though for California. They must
be able to pull this, you would think if they
wanted to know. And Tim Wallas, yeah, Tim Walls probably owns,
you know, a twenty gage that he has his wife
do all the cleaning for. You know, Like, I'm sure
he doesn't know very much about guns. Even though he
was in the military. That doesn't mean that he fired
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a lot of guns. And he wants to take your
guns away. So I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So she's on tape lying about this. This is an
example of something where I thought Trump could have really
pressed her. Trump is not really a gun guy, to
be fair, now, Junior and Eric, they're more plugged in
in the gun universe and not judging anybody for or
not being a gun guy or gal. You mentioned you
getting a new safe for guns. My wife is building
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out an actual armory. We're building a new house. I mean,
the amount of weaponry that she really thinks the civil
wars coming, So the amount of weaponry that the Travis
household is gonna have, I mean, is gonna be I'm
even kind of stunned by all the guns that she's buying,
and no, I don't think she's buying them to shoot me,
although some of you send those messages every time and
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then some would say that it was probably would be justified.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But let me just say this.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I immediately thought, Buck, why does he not follow up
with that and say, Kamala, what kind of gun do
you have? Because if he just asked her that question,
if she most people, if you have bought a gun,
and you have trained with a gun at all, you
are familiar at least with the individual weapon that you have.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
There's no such thing as a gun owner who doesn't
know what gun they own.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, that's not right, but I'm saying I think Kamala
would have maybe just said I've got a long one.
I've got it, Like I don't know that she would
actually have been able to say, hey, I have this
specific brand of gun, because I don't know that she
has one, and I feel like if she does, she
bought it because it's not a bad political angle to
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say I'm not gonna take your guns. I have a
gun too, and then it's like just hidden away somewhere
in the back of her cause.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
She's never touched it. This also gets to I actually
don't really care about whether somebody themselves avails themselves of
a right, correct, I care that they are willing to
protect a constitutional right. And Donald Trump on the gun
issue has been very good. He has not been perfect.
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Some of the bumpstock people out there are going to
start shouting in me. I'm aware he has not been perfect,
but he's been very good. He's never said something on
a mandatory mandatory buyback is what they did in Australia,
and they always point to this. Let me just say
as how we could do it here. They say, Oh,
look at Australia. Violent crime in Australia has actually gone
up over this period of time. Oh and by the way,
there are more guns in hand. There are more guns.
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It depends on what time period you look at, but
this is the more important point. There are more guns
in private hands in Australia now than there were before
the buyback. So the whole thing is a sham. When
they tell you the buyback is why Australia is so safe,
it's actually not really true. And in this country, you're
talking about a far bigger issue with a constitutional right
that would be trampled in the process. Kamala Harris wants
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to look, let's be Joe Biden says he wants to
ban AAR fifteens. Yeah, which is the most common sporting
rifle in American hands. Is Kamala not in Again, there's
like the frustration clay of this wasn't there weren't real
questions asking this debate. And Trump's skill is in presentation
and entertainment. It is not in the back and forth
of policy debate. So I don't know how different it
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would be even if you got another shot at it
in terms of that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And I'm also gonna say something that may stagger me
in people out there in defense of the media. In
defense of the media, which by and large is shilling
for Kamala. There is no precedent in American presidential campaigns
for a candidate to be saying all of the things
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effectively that I argued for in my last presidential campaign.
I no longer believe. I now believe the opposite. In
other words, sometimes you get one or two. This is
why the John Carey thing I think is important. In
O four, one flip flop was enough for George W.
Bush to characterize John Kerry as an inauthentic flip flopper.
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Kamala has like fifteen on super serious issues in the
last four years.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well, the reason it worked against Kerry as well was
he was running as the anti war I wouldn't make
the Iraq mistake candidate. But he voted for it, right,
So this is the This is the one of the
huge advantages that Barack Obama had in two thousand and
eight was he had not Now people say, well, he
couldn't have, yeah, but he did not vote for the
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Iraq war. Hillary Clinton did, Yay. Senator Clinton voted for
the Iraq War, and so that was a much harder
thing to get around after the country had become very
tired of the forever war in Iraq. So look, if
they can pull this off with Kamala, it means that
they could have pulled it off with absolutely any Democrat
you know, with a pulse. Basically, this is the biggest
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swindle in politics that we have seen. I think in
some ways it's actually worse than the Biden dementia thing,
because Biden's dementia wasn't as bad four years ago. To
be fair, it has got of course, it has gotten
worse over four.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Y yes, and again they at least had covid to have
an excuse to hide him away from the media. And
I gotta be honest again, I'm gonna do two shocking things.
I'm gonna defend Biden. Biden did it flip flop on
anywhere near as many things as Kamala. He didn't support
defunding the police, which was smart of him, right. He
(29:05):
never publicly put out bailout funds to my knowledge, and said, hey,
we got to get people off the streets in Minneapolis
who've been arrested. I don't remember Biden putting out like that.
Jusse Smallette was a victim of a hate crime lynching,
like Kamala did. Kamala ran. This is important and just strategically,
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the Democrat Party was so afraid of Bernie Sanders and
Elizabeth Warren running to the left that Kamala's strategy was
I have to be more left wing than Bernie and
Elizabeth Warren. Biden basically said, in some level, hey, those
guys are crazy. All he had to do was beat Bloomberg,
(29:47):
and if you remember, Bloomberg had a couple of disastrous debates.
Despite the fact that he spent a billion dollars. Biden
was the most moderate of the Democrat candidates in twenty twenty.
Biden would is able to present himself to the middle
five percent or three percent of voters as look, I'm
(30:09):
a Democrat, but I'm not a loon. And there was
some basis for that, just because he's old, he's been
in the game a long time, and he avoided taking
some of the most radical left wing positions. Kamala Harris
is looking at that same tranch of voters. Forget about
Democrats who would vote for any Democrat. She's looking at
the middle three percent of voters and lying to them
(30:30):
about everything. Yes, it's all a lot. Everything that she
is presenting to swing voters is bull crap, and she's
on tape saying the exact opposite. The big flaw Biden
was he ran as a moderate governed as Bernie sand Well.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He let the left wingers take take over and run
everything right. So with Kamala, you're just getting a left
winger who's going to be running around with the left wingers,
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Rhode Island. What's going on? Mike?
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Fellas fantastic?
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I just want to say thanks for picking up the
flag after we lost Rush. You guys are really killing it.
You're doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
All right. So I've been a union man for thirty
five years and the job I'm on right now almost
fifty people. There isn't a person on this job that
doesn't have a Trump stika, anti Biden stica, and the
main sentiment is that what good is the Democratic Party
for the Union if we don't have a country?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I love your accent. By the way, let me ask
you this question, how did that? How does that compare
to twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
I don't have the numbers on twenty twenty, but I
know twenty sixteen, forty eight percent of the Union tradesmen
went for Trump. So I would have to say, would
have been more in twenty twenty, but it just didn't
matter because they I believe they stole it.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Clay Mike is exactly why. I mean, Mike, thanks for
calling in, great call from Rhde Island. Thank you for
listening to us, buddy, appreciate you. I would just say,
this is what we've been talking about all along. I remember
we had Ryan Gerdusky on about the numbers and white
guys who do jobs that fix things or that require
you to be in a place, you know, not software
design or whatever, but white guys generally non college educated
(34:57):
or some college but you know, not finishing college in
the Swing states, that's gonna they're gonna determine. So so
Mike had Rhode Island and his buddies, his his fellow
uh uh fellow union guys. They're gonna, I think, determine
the election. Amy in Washington State, covering a lot of
ground here. What's up, Amy?
Speaker 9 (35:17):
Hello, I'm stuck in a communist state.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
So first, I.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Wait, but don't you have zero incomes tax in that
communist stated.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
On the air.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We breathe here, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But what's through Washington State? Buck doesn't have a state
income tax?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
What Washington State doesn't have a state income tax. I
think they have a strong like capital gains tax. But
we're analyzing tax policy here what you got for us?
Speaker 9 (35:49):
So I just wanted to I told your screener this too,
So I just wanted to give my perspective also, but
from a woman perspective. And I'm a full blown woman.
So what is embarrassing about the Democrats and what they've
chosen with Pamela Pamela whatever.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Is?
Speaker 9 (36:13):
I sit there and I watched her in the debate,
and I research everything. I look at how many times
she's lied. I look at how she just said.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Admitted that she gave.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
American intelligence to the Linky and she grew up in
the middle class.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So they're all lies. And what is embarrassing is that
people will, just women will just look at her and say, oh,
she's a woman, and I can't wait to have a woman.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I would say, Amy, that's the game we're at time.
Maybe I just want to say that is the game
the Democrats are playing, that there's going to be a
gender alliance, if you will, of voters. But not fool,
and Amy, not fool. In this audience,
Welcome in now. We hope all of you are having
a fantastic Thursday, wherever you may be across this great country.
We got three hours of fun coming your way. No
matter what is going on in the world at large,
We're going to make you have hopefully a pretty good
time and make you a little bit smarter than you
otherwise would have been. About all of the issues of
(00:22):
the day. We'll talk about the continued fallout of the
Tuesday Night debate, to the extent that there is any there.
We will talk with our friend Chip Roy, congressman from
Texas about the situation on the border. We will give
you the latest from the numbers and what we are
seeing in all of the markets out there, both poll
(00:43):
and gambling markets, as well as the data behind them.
But we began buck, I want to kind of talk
about the way that Trump supporters are talked about on MSNBC.
MSNBC in particular, although it also happens on CNN and
certainly is embedded in much of the reporting that goes
(01:04):
on in the New York Times and in Washington Post,
is a level of personal attack that virtually never happens
when it comes to the reverse and when it does happen,
they turn it into a multi day storyline. I'm thinking
about Jade Vance joking with Tucker Carlson a couple of
(01:27):
years ago that a lot of Democrats were childless cat
women and they grabbed their faint they grabbed their pearls
and fall on the fainting couch, And oh my goodness.
What about the rhetoric and what they say about us
and all of those things. There's very little actually negative
said about Kamala Harris voters in general. Trump supporters, on
(01:49):
the other hand, are attacked violently, nastily all the time.
And I was thinking about that this week sum and
then this clip surfaced from our friend Joy Reid, who
frankly may have the dumbest show of all of the
shows that air on MSNBC, because I regularly see clips
(02:11):
from her show and just think there's no way someone
with a functional IQ could be putting on this kind
of program consistently. So there are lots of dumb people
at MSNBC on air. There are also people who are
willingly lying, Like I don't think Rachel Maddow is dumb.
I think she just is a propagandist. But the attacks
(02:32):
on Trump supporters in particular are pretty crazy to see,
and there are no functional equivalents to this. I feel
quite confident on Fox News. But here is the Nation's
Elie Mustell telling Joy Reid. Trump supporters are despicable. Listen
to cut three.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Everything he does is despicable.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The reason why it doesn't and his career is because
his supporters aren't just as despicable, all right, Like Trump's
whole thing. He's a narcissist, right, and so his whole
thing is to have a complete lack of compassion and
empathy for everybody else. It's all about him. That's why
he lies about nine to eleven. It's all about and him, me, me, me.
He's probably the least compassionate president we've had in two
(03:16):
hundred years.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Since Andrew Jackson.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And it works for him because his supporters are just
as ungenerous and have just as little compassion and empathy
for others. And that's why it never hurts Trump when
he takes these crass and classless actions, is because his
supporters think that being crass and classless is actually kind
of cool.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have met thousands and thousands of Trump supporters over
my life. Buck many of them are listening to us
right now. They are some of the kindest, most patriotic,
most loving of America people that I have ever seen.
I will tell you a little bit of an anecdote.
(04:00):
There were dueling rallies in Aspen, Colorado. You might remember
a couple of weeks ago. I was out in Aspen
twentieth anniversary wedding anniversary as out there with my wife
and Trump came to do a fundraiser, and there were
that day in downtown Aspen dueling rallies. And a woman
wrote into the local Aspen newspaper and said she was
(04:22):
an undecided voter, but she went to go visit both rallies,
and I do think this would be emblematic very often
of what you would see. She said. The Trump people
were incredibly welcoming to her, wanted to tell her how
much they loved America and how much they were fans
of Trump, whereas the Kamala supporters, by and large, to
the extent that those people even exist, just wanted to
(04:43):
tell you how much they hated the Trump people. I
think that's reflected actually in the country. The Trump supporters
that I have met are some of the greatest patriots
and some of the nicest people out there, whereas it
seems to me the Kamala people and before them, the
in people by and large have just decided they hate
the Trump people. They don't really like their side as
(05:06):
much as they hate the other. Does that reflect some
of what you've seen as well? Of course, also it
is right in line with the truth of the modern
Democrat party, which is that it is a religion, and
it's not a religion based around one person. To be
a Democrat a liberal, although that's a very poor word
(05:27):
choice really for what they are. They're really authoritarian collectivists.
They're not in any meaningful way liberal about anything. They
don't believe in liberty on an individual basis. Therefore, I
think the term liberal for them is really incorrect. Leftists, Marxists, communist,
whatever you want to call them. Democrats have replaced so
(05:49):
much of what we think of as I don't know
if you want to say, different aspects of your personality,
but different aspects of life with it's all about being
a Democrat. You're a Democrat and everything. You're a Democrat.
When you're watching a sports game, you're, you know, a Democrat.
At the grocery store and they wear this on their sleeve.
And I think it's because it is giving a lot
(06:09):
of people. I mean, if we're getting into a little
bit of Freudian analysis, maybe here of the Democrat Party today,
it gives people purpose who otherwise feel like they lack
purpose or they have an insecurity about what their contribution is,
what their abilities are in a society that is based
on individual stuff instead of just whatever the group affiliation
(06:31):
may be. So yeah, I think there's a lot of
unhappy people who are Democrats. I mean, this is you're
talking about generalizations that affect hundreds of millions of people.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So there's clearly a lot of you know, I know,
happy Democrats. I'm not saying that, but as a movement, yeah,
I think there's a bitterness about the Democrat Party. You
know Trump, they always try to do this thing. And
I didn't get to see Morning Joe this morning, which
was a shame, but whenever I do watch it, one
of the most common themes you come across Clay is
Trump hates this country, says it's going to hell and
(07:03):
all this stuff. Well, what Trump is saying is that
he thinks the current leadership is running this country into
the ground the wrong direction. But he actually loves America
on the merits and thinks it's a very special place.
I think the Democrats, if you're looking at the ideology
of their movement, I think that they view America as
a deeply flawed, deeply racist, deeply unfair, rooted in the patriarchy,
(07:27):
rooted in oppression. And these are all negatives, These are
all archetypes of a negative belief. But also what they
say at MSNBC. I don't usually spend too much time
on it. The people on MSNBC are generally not very bright.
Just the truth, they're just definitely not very smart. They
are smarter, much smarter CNN anchors, for example, who just
(07:47):
dance to the required tune on TV. But at MSNBC,
they have some straight up dumbasses. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I do think, though the it would be such a
great story if we had a true First of all,
we have almost no one who's truly independent media. But
I think if you went to Kamala rallies, and you
went to Trump rallies and you just assessed the overall
friendliness of people there, I think what you would find
(08:18):
is that the Trump people are some of the friendliest
on the planet, and it's not That's why to me,
attacking the Trump supporter is particularly pernicious. Look, we understand
that in this political realm we live in, where it's
fifty four days toil the election, they are going to
be nasty things said about Trump. There's gonna be nasty
(08:39):
things said about Kamala. And if you think that's unique,
if you're a history nerd like I am, one of
the most ridiculous and fun things to do is go
back and read what was said about Abraham Lincoln, go
back and read what was said about George Washington. I mean,
these guys were attacked in print on a level that
I think would stab people today because we tend to
(09:01):
think of them as marble men who did no wrong
and had no opposition in their era. Buck they were savaged.
Andrew Jackson was savaged back in the day. They even
took a shot at Andrew Jackson during that clip and said,
you know, the he's an awful guy. But it is
kind of crazy to think that what exactly was going
(09:23):
on historically probably was worse than what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, some of the founding fathers shot each other, yes,
you know, and there were other times where they came
pretty close to dueling, and you know, Monroe had to
step in at one point and prevent Aaron Burr from
getting involved in a different duel. This is Look, politics
is a rough business. You're talking about power, and you're
(09:47):
talking about things that really affect human beings in ways
that are very real, and so passions are going to
run high. We're heading into an election cycle right now
where people are feeling a little bit more of the
heat than they have since the last election at this time,
and so there's gonna be this sense of exaggeration. But
I will tell you the the going after the other
(10:10):
side supporters. I mean, this is why I just said,
MSNBC is just sort of dumb to suggest that Trump
supporters they don't actually know what Trump supporters think. Never
mind how Trumps supporters aren't They don't have friends really
who are Trump supporters in these left wing circles, They
honestly are completely cloistered from the reality of why people
(10:31):
Why are people attracted to Trump. It's not actually because
he's mean, you know, it's it's not actually because of
his narcissism or whatever that guy was saying the American people,
a lot of them have very real concerns that stem
from poor governance, particularly from what feels like a uniparty
elite that doesn't care as the middle class continuously just
(10:52):
gets squeezed by policies that involve trillions of dollars of spending,
that punish savers at the and benefit asset holders and
UH and that open the borders wide, and that allow
us to suffer from more criminality than we should because
of concerns over social justice. And these are all very
real things. And they're running an absolute clown to be
(11:16):
presidents of the United States right now, and they had
a dementia pat clown before that, and they're gonna they're
gonna lecture us on who should be in charge. I mean,
this is if they're putting forward serious people who were
really bright and really on it and had a real
vision play, I would say that's that's maybe I disagree
with them. These are unseerious people, but unfortunately they can
(11:37):
do very serious damage to the country.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not only unseerious, lying on a level that we've never
seen a presidential candidate live before. I'm talking about what
they believe in, not whether they get a few facts
wrong or misspeak or things like that. We're gonna play
for you some audio during the course of this program.
We have never had a candidate run for political office
(12:01):
who is on record as a political candidate espousing the
opposite opinion, not something that's a subtle variation, the opposite opinion,
like we have with Kamala Harris. I mean, it truly
is staggering. And this is why she's not actually doing
any media because even reporters are embarrassed by how much
she has changed her opinions.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Imagine if Donald Trump had come forward in just the
last month or so and said, I'm all about an
open border. I want more illegals. The more legals, the better.
I want more abortion, abortion everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
I want higher taxes on everybody, less business growth. I mean,
(12:42):
everybody would say, what the heck is going on here?
That is what Kamala has done, just from the other side,
and we're supposed to accept this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And remember Bernie spoke the truth here when he said,
and I think this is so important. We played this
clip earlier this week. Oh, she doesn't believe any of this.
He's just saying it because she needs to get elected.
Of course, he said the quiet part aloud, and I
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Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to
get to some of your calls coming up here this
hour on now that we've had everything settle in a
little bit with the debate situation, how are you feeling.
I'm feeling good. I gotta tell you the Buckster is
feeling good about how the Trumpster is gonna do. I
still I'm confident, not over confident, but I think with
(15:01):
continued focus, he's going to get it done. This time.
I wanted to point something out here and Clay and
I are going to dive into this. Some of the
fact checks that happened. You know, there's this back and forth.
Why wasn't we know why Kamala wasn't fact checked? Okay,
we have to point it out, but we all know why.
But on the issue of whether she wants trans taxpayer
(15:21):
funded trends surgeries for both illegals and for prison inmates,
instead of just telling you what her position is, well
let her tell you. This was Kamala Harris back in
twenty nineteen on the issue of trans surgeries for inmates.
Listen to this moderate who wants to build a wall now,
(15:44):
she says, Kamala Harris, play it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
They were standing in the way of surgery for prisoners,
and there was a specific case. And when I learned
about the case, I work behind the scenes to not
only make sure that that transgender woman got s she
was deserving.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So it was not only about that case.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I made sure that they changed the policy in the
state of California so that every transgender the inmate in
the prison system would have access to the medical care
that they desire to need. And I believe it was
not only I know it was historic in California, but
I believe actually it may have been one of the
first if not the first in the country where I
(16:26):
pushed for that policy in a department of corrections.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
A pioneer in the realm clay of taxpayer funded trans
surgery for inmates. Oh, by the way, I assure you,
she thinks that a man who has a transsurgery to
become a woman should be in a woman's prison.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, which is absolutely insane. She also believes that transgender
surgery should be provided for immigrants in migrant shelters, meaning
in both cases, your taxpayer dollars should go to be
changing and changing is in quotation marks can't change a gender,
but for surgery that would be designed to try to
(17:11):
allow someone to pretend to be a different gender than
what they are. I mean, I lose my mind over
the way that tax dollars get spent. Now, the idea
that this would be done, These surgeries buck are insanely
expensive expensive. Yep, it's not like you're look. Inmates do
(17:32):
deserve some medical treatment, right, they have to be. But
the idea that you would get elective surgery to inmates
that are paid for by taxpayers is beyond insane.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, we're also going to pay for you know,
lip injections and Brazilian butt lifts and all these things
that you know, all these cosmetic surgeries too. I mean,
why not just put it on the taxpayer tab. That's
exactly right.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Unfortunately, we'll talk about this a little bit more because
I do believe it's significant the way media is covering it.
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with us. Look, Kamala Harris is lying about everything, and
she's lying about I mean, let's just be honest, She's
lying about what she actually believes. I think this is
important because a lot of times they say, oh, Trump's lying,
and it's really just because Trump has a hyperbolic way
(19:19):
of speaking, right, So he'll say she's the worst that's
ever lived, and they're like, actually, she's not the worst person, like, right,
So that's just kind of the way that he speaks hyperbolically.
But he's right on the essence of the issues which
most of you understand. There are things that Kamala Harris
now says she supports which she has called racist, i e.
(19:41):
A border wall. There are things that Kamala Harris supports
that she has said she could not support because her
baby niece's futures mattered too much, fracking. There are things
that aren't that significant in the grand scheme of things
that Kamala Harris now says she does not support that
she previously said she supported, like plastic straws, which everybody
(20:05):
needs plastic straws because any other kind of straw basically
doesn't work. It's either paper and stops working, or it's
metal and it threatens to murder you every time you
try to use it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
These metal straws are crazy, like some of these that
you see, So it's important to be playing these clips.
This is why Kamala is hiding. This is why I
was disappointed in Trump on Tuesday, because I'm not sure
that there's ever been a more fertile opportunity to expose
the inauthentic lies of a candidate than Kamala. Here is
(20:40):
one that has been clipped together. Kamala said she had
no interest in taking your guns at all. Here's the problem.
She said that she supports mandatory gun buybacks. In addition
to not even being willing to answer questions buck about
whether she still supports reparation or whether she still supports
(21:02):
transgender surgeries for inmates and ilegal immigrants. She now says
it's a lie to claim that she wants to take
your guns, except she said it.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Listen, this business about taking everyone's guns away. Tim Walls
and I are both gun owners We're not taking anybody's
guns away, So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff.
I support buybacks and it's something I'm so passionate about
and I'm so looking forward to being president to address.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We've got to deal with this mandatory. Is you're a
gun buy back program? It's mandatory, Okay, mandatory that is
confiscation by another name, and it is Look, she lied,
we know she lied, but uh this it's actually perfectly
because not only does she lying about what she believes,
(21:51):
she's also presenting herself as something that she really isn't.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh, I mean, first of all, I want to know
what kind of gun Kamala Harrison's. I'm curious too. Maybe
she does.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That was an opportunity, by the way, for Trump to
actually expose her a bit. He should have said, oh,
that's interesting you have. And I'm not claiming to be
a gun guy. You're a gun guy, but just have
her explain what kind of gun she has.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm picking up my second gun safe, I think this week,
because my first gun safe is too full. So she
I would want to know first of all, in California,
in San Francisco, I would assume it's she's dealing with
a may may issue, not a shall issue.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
For a gun permit, you definitely need some kind of
a permit. He lives in LA now, by the way,
she doesn't live in anymore. Yeah, so I'm sure I
think it is probably similar.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So what I would want to know is, oh, if
she owns a gun, and I must be clear, I
don't know. I mean, I find it. I want to
know what kind of gun this is, Like, I want
to know if this is true or not. I'm not
taking it for granted that it's true, but if it
is true, did she manage to go through some special
process because she had been a prosecutor beforehand? As in,
is this like the con seal carry permits in New
(23:01):
York City for a long time, which were essentially a
privilege of the privileged if you were rich, Yeah, if
you were connected, if you were famous, you could get
a concealed kerry permit. If you just wanted to defend
yourself because you're in a high crime neighborhood and you
didn't feel like being robbed and shot, too bad for you.
I'm just you know, Kamma says she's a gun owner.
(23:22):
I want to know more about this. The media is
not going to check. They're not going to look into it.
I'm sure there are registrations though for California. They must
be able to pull this, you would think if they
wanted to know. And Tim Wallas, yeah, Tim Walls probably owns,
you know, a twenty gage that he has his wife
do all the cleaning for. You know, Like, I'm sure
he doesn't know very much about guns. Even though he
was in the military. That doesn't mean that he fired
(23:42):
a lot of guns. And he wants to take your
guns away. So I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So she's on tape lying about this. This is an
example of something where I thought Trump could have really
pressed her. Trump is not really a gun guy, to
be fair, now, Junior and Eric, they're more plugged in
in the gun universe and not judging anybody for or
not being a gun guy or gal. You mentioned you
getting a new safe for guns. My wife is building
(24:09):
out an actual armory. We're building a new house. I mean,
the amount of weaponry that she really thinks the civil
wars coming, So the amount of weaponry that the Travis
household is gonna have, I mean, is gonna be I'm
even kind of stunned by all the guns that she's buying,
and no, I don't think she's buying them to shoot me,
although some of you send those messages every time and
(24:31):
then some would say that it was probably would be justified.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But let me just say this.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I immediately thought, Buck, why does he not follow up
with that and say, Kamala, what kind of gun do
you have? Because if he just asked her that question,
if she most people, if you have bought a gun,
and you have trained with a gun at all, you
are familiar at least with the individual weapon that you have.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
There's no such thing as a gun owner who doesn't
know what gun they own.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, that's not right, but I'm saying I think Kamala
would have maybe just said I've got a long one.
I've got it, Like I don't know that she would
actually have been able to say, hey, I have this
specific brand of gun, because I don't know that she
has one, and I feel like if she does, she
bought it because it's not a bad political angle to
(25:21):
say I'm not gonna take your guns. I have a
gun too, and then it's like just hidden away somewhere
in the back of her cause.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
She's never touched it. This also gets to I actually
don't really care about whether somebody themselves avails themselves of
a right, correct, I care that they are willing to
protect a constitutional right. And Donald Trump on the gun
issue has been very good. He has not been perfect.
(25:49):
Some of the bumpstock people out there are going to
start shouting in me. I'm aware he has not been perfect,
but he's been very good. He's never said something on
a mandatory mandatory buyback is what they did in Australia,
and they always point to this. Let me just say
as how we could do it here. They say, Oh,
look at Australia. Violent crime in Australia has actually gone
up over this period of time. Oh and by the way,
there are more guns in hand. There are more guns.
(26:10):
It depends on what time period you look at, but
this is the more important point. There are more guns
in private hands in Australia now than there were before
the buyback. So the whole thing is a sham. When
they tell you the buyback is why Australia is so safe,
it's actually not really true. And in this country, you're
talking about a far bigger issue with a constitutional right
that would be trampled in the process. Kamala Harris wants
(26:32):
to look, let's be Joe Biden says he wants to
ban AAR fifteens. Yeah, which is the most common sporting
rifle in American hands. Is Kamala not in Again, there's
like the frustration clay of this wasn't there weren't real
questions asking this debate. And Trump's skill is in presentation
and entertainment. It is not in the back and forth
of policy debate. So I don't know how different it
(26:54):
would be even if you got another shot at it
in terms of that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And I'm also gonna say something that may stagger me
in people out there in defense of the media. In
defense of the media, which by and large is shilling
for Kamala. There is no precedent in American presidential campaigns
for a candidate to be saying all of the things
(27:17):
effectively that I argued for in my last presidential campaign.
I no longer believe. I now believe the opposite. In
other words, sometimes you get one or two. This is
why the John Carey thing I think is important. In
O four, one flip flop was enough for George W.
Bush to characterize John Kerry as an inauthentic flip flopper.
(27:41):
Kamala has like fifteen on super serious issues in the
last four years.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well, the reason it worked against Kerry as well was
he was running as the anti war I wouldn't make
the Iraq mistake candidate. But he voted for it, right,
So this is the This is the one of the
huge advantages that Barack Obama had in two thousand and
eight was he had not Now people say, well, he
couldn't have, yeah, but he did not vote for the
(28:09):
Iraq war. Hillary Clinton did, Yay. Senator Clinton voted for
the Iraq War, and so that was a much harder
thing to get around after the country had become very
tired of the forever war in Iraq. So look, if
they can pull this off with Kamala, it means that
they could have pulled it off with absolutely any Democrat
you know, with a pulse. Basically, this is the biggest
(28:32):
swindle in politics that we have seen. I think in
some ways it's actually worse than the Biden dementia thing,
because Biden's dementia wasn't as bad four years ago. To
be fair, it has got of course, it has gotten
worse over four.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Y yes, and again they at least had covid to have
an excuse to hide him away from the media. And
I gotta be honest again, I'm gonna do two shocking things.
I'm gonna defend Biden. Biden did it flip flop on
anywhere near as many things as Kamala. He didn't support
defunding the police, which was smart of him, right. He
(29:05):
never publicly put out bailout funds to my knowledge, and said, hey,
we got to get people off the streets in Minneapolis
who've been arrested. I don't remember Biden putting out like that.
Jusse Smallette was a victim of a hate crime lynching,
like Kamala did. Kamala ran. This is important and just strategically,
(29:25):
the Democrat Party was so afraid of Bernie Sanders and
Elizabeth Warren running to the left that Kamala's strategy was
I have to be more left wing than Bernie and
Elizabeth Warren. Biden basically said, in some level, hey, those
guys are crazy. All he had to do was beat Bloomberg,
(29:47):
and if you remember, Bloomberg had a couple of disastrous debates.
Despite the fact that he spent a billion dollars. Biden
was the most moderate of the Democrat candidates in twenty twenty.
Biden would is able to present himself to the middle
five percent or three percent of voters as look, I'm
(30:09):
a Democrat, but I'm not a loon. And there was
some basis for that, just because he's old, he's been
in the game a long time, and he avoided taking
some of the most radical left wing positions. Kamala Harris
is looking at that same tranch of voters. Forget about
Democrats who would vote for any Democrat. She's looking at
the middle three percent of voters and lying to them
(30:30):
about everything. Yes, it's all a lot. Everything that she
is presenting to swing voters is bull crap, and she's
on tape saying the exact opposite. The big flaw Biden
was he ran as a moderate governed as Bernie sand Well.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He let the left wingers take take over and run
everything right. So with Kamala, you're just getting a left
winger who's going to be running around with the left wingers,
and that's what's going to happen. All right, we'll take
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Rhode Island. What's going on? Mike?
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
How you doing?
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I just want to say thanks for picking up the
flag after we lost Rush. You guys are really killing it.
You're doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
All right. So I've been a union man for thirty
five years and the job I'm on right now almost
fifty people. There isn't a person on this job that
doesn't have a Trump stika, anti Biden stica, and the
main sentiment is that what good is the Democratic Party
for the Union if we don't have a country?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I love your accent. By the way, let me ask
you this question, how did that? How does that compare
to twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
I don't have the numbers on twenty twenty, but I
know twenty sixteen, forty eight percent of the Union tradesmen
went for Trump. So I would have to say, would
have been more in twenty twenty, but it just didn't
matter because they I believe they stole it.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Clay Mike is exactly why. I mean, Mike, thanks for
calling in, great call from Rhde Island. Thank you for
listening to us, buddy, appreciate you. I would just say,
this is what we've been talking about all along. I remember
we had Ryan Gerdusky on about the numbers and white
guys who do jobs that fix things or that require
you to be in a place, you know, not software
design or whatever, but white guys generally non college educated
(34:57):
or some college but you know, not finishing college in
the Swing states, that's gonna they're gonna determine. So so
Mike had Rhode Island and his buddies, his his fellow
uh uh fellow union guys. They're gonna, I think, determine
the election. Amy in Washington State, covering a lot of
ground here. What's up, Amy?
Speaker 9 (35:17):
Hello, I'm stuck in a communist state.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
So first, I.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Wait, but don't you have zero incomes tax in that
communist stated.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
On the air.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We breathe here, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But what's through Washington State? Buck doesn't have a state
income tax?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
What Washington State doesn't have a state income tax. I
think they have a strong like capital gains tax. But
we're analyzing tax policy here what you got for us?
Speaker 9 (35:49):
So I just wanted to I told your screener this too,
So I just wanted to give my perspective also, but
from a woman perspective. And I'm a full blown woman.
So what is embarrassing about the Democrats and what they've
chosen with Pamela Pamela whatever.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Is?
Speaker 9 (36:13):
I sit there and I watched her in the debate,
and I research everything. I look at how many times
she's lied. I look at how she just said.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Admitted that she gave.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
American intelligence to the Linky and she grew up in
the middle class.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So they're all lies. And what is embarrassing is that
people will, just women will just look at her and say, oh,
she's a woman, and I can't wait to have a woman.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I would say, Amy, that's the game we're at time.
Maybe I just want to say that is the game
the Democrats are playing, that there's going to be a
gender alliance, if you will, of voters. But not fool,
and Amy, not fool. In this audience,
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