November 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into major breaking news and exclusive stories shaping the political and cultural conversation. The hour opens with Buck Sexton previewing Clay’s surprise international trip, which turns out to be a headline-making visit to Rome where Clay met Pope Francis at the Vatican. Clay shares details of his mission: delivering an invitation for the Pope to throw out the first pitch at a future Chicago White Sox game, a unique gesture tied to the team’s new ownership and stadium plans. This segment blends sports, faith, and global intrigue, making it a must-hear for fans of both baseball and world affairs.
The show then pivots to the Epstein Transparency Act, which passed unanimously in the Senate after near-unanimous House approval. Buck breaks down what this means: once President Trump signs the bill, the Justice Department will have 30 days to release Jeffrey Epstein-related files. The discussion explores whether these disclosures will provide real answers or lead to further demands for transparency. Buck emphasizes the unanswered question of Epstein’s billion-dollar fortune and the suspicious financial transactions flagged by JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank. He argues that following the money is key to uncovering the truth.
Political implications dominate the conversation as Buck warns that Democrats will weaponize the Epstein release to attack Trump, regardless of what the files reveal. He cites comments from Speaker Mike Johnson and Senator Chuck Schumer, framing the push as partisan posturing rather than genuine concern for victims. Buck also questions why the Biden DOJ didn’t act sooner if incriminating evidence existed, highlighting the hypocrisy and strategic timing behind the current push.
Later in the hour, Buck previews upcoming topics, including Trump’s efforts to strengthen U.S.-Saudi relations and advance Middle East peace through expanded Abraham Accords. He also teases an interview with Michael Watley, North Carolina Senate candidate, to discuss immigration enforcement and its impact on schools and communities. Listeners weigh in through calls and talkbacks, expressing frustration over political gamesmanship and demanding full accountability for Epstein’s network. The hour closes with Buck reaffirming that transparency is essential but warns that the fight over these files is far from over.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now. A lot going on, so we
know yesterday when I was on the air with you, Oh,
Clay will in fact call us from his super secret
mission abroad this hour, So we're gonna set that up
for you. Clay's out for the week's traveling, but he
(00:24):
wants to tell you what he's been up to. One
of you might have already guessed it, which was a
pretty remarkable, remarkable thing. But he'll be joining us later on,
and we also have Michael Wattley joining He's running for
Senate North Carolina, so looking forward to that as that
conversation gets rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now, we had yesterday the House all voting in favor
of except for one guy, a Republican voting in favor
of the Epstein Transparency Act. And then we had and
last night the Senate passing the same bill unanimously. Senators
(01:09):
locked in agreement, automatically passing the bill as soon as
it came in from the House. Just looking at the
updates here. Once the President signs the bill, the Justice
Department has thirty days to release materials related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now this is moving.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The President has already said that he believes this is
or that he's supportive of this. Now he has said
that he thinks this is the right move. So we're
going to get into what's going to happen here. It's
not like we're going to know all of the details
even for some time here. There may be further redactions
(01:51):
that happen, or rather that we will have to contend with,
because my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough,
then people will say that's not going to fly, that's
not good enough. There have to be more things that
are released. So that's one possibility. Another possibility is that
(02:13):
there's nothing massive I say massive in the information that
is released, the files, if you will, of this investigation,
and then people just say they hid stuff, and there's
still a clamoring for more transparency, more. Those are all
the things. Those are some of the things that I
think could come out of this.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But there was this today.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
As I was preparing for our show. Here this is
cut twenty seven Pambondi, the Attorney General, referring to the
Epstein investigation as a pending investigation. Play twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The issue with the new information that you just indicated,
are is the Department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein
is State because mister Blanche did not have that information
when he interviewed the Lane. Maxwell, what new information? And
would you limit the new investigation to just those named
persons that the President talked about or is this a
(03:12):
broad open ended investigation.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I would refer to the Deputy Attorney General's post that
he put out on X and we will We're not
going to say anything else on that because now it
is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
York, a pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein
financial records from JP Morgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, and the
US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
A few things here I can't tell you. I don't
know obviously, none of you know, no one outside of
a very small circle nose in this release that Donald Trump,
I am very confident, is going to sign the final step,
if you will, before the release. And then there's thirty days,
so we're gonna wait a bit. We're gonna wait a
(04:13):
bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days,
but they have up to thirty days to release. Maybe
it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the
bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say
to myself, because you know, and the House has already
released sixty five thousand documents related to Epstein, you know
(04:33):
very well that I have been pounding a certain drum
on this issue of follow the money, follow the money.
It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it
should be unthinkable maybe a better way of putting it,
that we do not have a full accounting of how
(04:57):
Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars.
This guy did not create some new product, He did
not found some company. He was not some hedge fun
guy running thirty billion dollars of other people's money. There
are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice
(05:20):
is not one of them. It's just not one of them.
And so this then brings up how did he make
this money? Why is it that there were some people
in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably and I mean that
in the real sense of can't believe it, unbelievably generous
(05:42):
to him. Why the money, I think is the single
best chance we have to get these answers. According to
subpoenias that were just put out by the House, JP
Morgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previous held
by Epstein, flagging some forty seven hundred transactions as suspicious.
(06:05):
Epstein held accounts and bench with the bank with Deutsche
Bank from twenty thirteen until twenty eighteen. So they're going
back in here into the money trail, and I sit
here wondering how it is. And by the way, I
want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions
here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How
(06:28):
is it possible that we don't have a full and
clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from.
We've had a little bit here, a little bit there,
but this should be obvious. And I might add, if
it's somewhere already, if they have the flow chart of funds,
if it's in the release, why haven't we already been
(06:52):
given it? Why is it taking all of this pressure
and all of this time. Why is it taking us
to this place to be in a situation to finally
get those answers?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So there's more that is coming out of here.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think you can pretty much set your watch to
this one. No matter what happens here with the files.
In terms of nothing, this is all about getting Trump
for the Democrats. And there's something very grotesque about Democrats
suddenly caring they didn't care about this during the Biden administration,
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suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims,
all of this. It's hard not to view it as posturing,
because it is posturing, meant to create the moral high
ground from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump,
or at least the appearance of such a thing. No
(07:55):
matter what happens with these files, I can assure you
they will not say, you know, you know is cleared.
Trump didn't do any didn't do anything. And so that
also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so
immediately in favor of the release, because no matter how
much transparency he offers, or rather he gives, and for
(08:17):
a lot of people, I understand, this is a file
through on a campaign promise, So you want it irrespective
of anything else, and that's very valid, and clearly Trump
has decided that that's what's going to happen. This should
have been done. I think a lot of people recognize
now sooner. A lot of you were calling in and
demanding it, to which I just kept saying, Yeah, I
want more transparency. I don't have the files, right, he says,
(08:40):
it's not in my power to release them. All we
can do is air as we did, our sense that
there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered.
And I think that that has certainly happened. I think
that has certainly been a very real motivation here right,
(09:01):
telling people having the Trump base come forward and say
we don't have the answers we want. We're not accepting
anything else. It's time for this all to come clean now,
Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one.
He's saying that the president has nothing to do with it.
(09:23):
Democrats are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this.
They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't
appear one more time in the files.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Play clip one.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
This is a political exercise for Democrats. And it pains
me to say it. I wish that was not the truth,
but it is, and it's undeniable. This is as deceitful
and dishonest, as their pointless stunt was to shut the
government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable
evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring, and
all of the abuses that they that they made these
(09:53):
young women go through. They're using that as a political
weapon to try to distract from their failures as a
party and to try their best to try to tie
President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had
nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and
he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed
the vote today.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I think that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think the President is about to show all of
his naysayers, detractors, haters.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They're haters, they're not detractors, and they're deranged. In many cases.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They hate him in a way that is that is irrational,
and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy.
Trump Arrangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say
that it's enough. You can never convince the people who
have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that
there's not more to be found that would prove that
Trump is really the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So just be prepared for that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there saying already
that this is and this has cut three one of
the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
This will go down as one of the most damaging
moments of Donald Trump's presidency. In trying so hard to
hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion
he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress
and around the country. All the line, all the broken
promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members
(11:13):
of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown
up in Donald Trump's face. His usual methods of intimidation
and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So we are to believe if you listen to Chuck
Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately,
you know, the whole Schumer shut down disaster for him. Politically,
people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball used
to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying,
this is such a disaster. We are to believe that
the Biden doj which was on a jihad against Trump,
(11:51):
we are to believe that they had derogatory information about
Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal
criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally politically motivate,
but that they didn't release this. How does that add up?
(12:14):
You know, they never really address this. They just didn't
pay attention. It's not hard. You have all these files,
especially now with AI. I'm going to tell you something.
You could find Trump's name and find every reference to
him in seconds doing a simple search. And you could
use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump
adjacent in all these documents.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So don't tell me.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the
ability to figure this out. No, they're doing this because
for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful and completely
changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, the selfishness,
and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown
(12:59):
they've already managed. Notice, does it even feel like we
had a month long government shutdown for no good reason
except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it was years
ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation that's already
happened I can't stop it. You know, I wish I
had the power to direct the whole national conversation. We've
got millions of you who listen, but there's you know,
(13:20):
three hundred and fifty million people in the country when
you add all the illegals, something like that. So here
we are, and we're going to see Trump. We're going
to see Trump signing this, and then there's going to
be more files released and we'll continue to work through them.
I do not believe there will be a smoking gun.
I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show
(13:40):
which will be airing later today, and Peers dramatically strenuously
disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are
people who are going to go to prison over the
what's in the I completely I just don't see it,
because the DOJ then would have to admit that they
were holding files that should have brought prosecution for child
(14:01):
sex traffickers.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Really, they're right at the deal.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe
the dj would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's
that's quite a stretch. And then they're going to release
it and have to say, oh yeah, we were covering
up for these guys. Are people even going to accept this?
Ask yourself this question. Ask it now? Are people going
(14:26):
to accept if they do put out all this stuff
they've got in their possession? Will there be an acceptance
that this is everything that they really have?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Will we ever get all the answers?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:19):
All right, welcome back in, everybody to play?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And Buck and that other guy, mister Clay who is
he's taking a taking a page from the Buckster's book,
being an international man of mystery. He may be joining
us here shortly, and we have do we have Cissy
on the line right now. Oh, I'm sorry, Cissy an
(16:46):
email here. I'm looking forward to hearing the details of
Clay's super secret trip on the show, my guests.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, you know what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I can't read it because I don't I want Clay
to be able to. But we will give Cissy credit.
Cissy emailed us, and she nailed it. I don't know
if she's I don't know how this is possible, if
she's got like a friend who's a relative in the
Travis family. But I said, super secret international mystery, and Sissy,
very impressive.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We will we will say what it is in a moment.
But you wrote a newn email and you knew exactly
what mister Clay was doing. So this is uh, that's
what we'd call it. Teas in the business. So I'll
be joining us.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I can tell you the country he's in, and I
told him if he doesn't come back ten pounds heavier.
By the way, we're gonna rack and stack your Epstein
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As the name implies, there are two of them, but
some of us go on fancy international man of Mystery
tours and stuff their faces with delicious pasta and do
other cool things.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But they will call in from said mission. Mister Clay
Travis joins us. Tell us where you are first, Clay, I.
Speaker 11 (19:19):
Am in Rome.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus, and I got to
go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to
to you know, complete this this idea that we had,
which I think was a pretty cool one, to invite
the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an
(19:43):
opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of
this has uh has happened. Today. It's evening, getting ready
to go out and have some wine and have a
good dinner. But it was an awesome day. So that
was the super secret trip. I didn't want to step
on anything about the about the process of getting that
(20:03):
invite out to the Pope. But UH got to meet
the ambassadors UH to Italy and the UH and the
Vatican City got to be there for the UH for
the offer to the Pope. And UH. There's video and
UH and footage. I think that's gonna be up on
out kick soon that we'll try to get shared with
(20:23):
you guys.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So, so you you have met with the Pontiffy, you're
not You're not a Catholic, right, Clay?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I am not? Yeah, and you're not and uh, but
it was it was a yes.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But certainly what I was gonna say is of people
right for our Catholic audience is like a really really
big deal. You know, it would be amazing to to
be able to actually meet the Pope in person.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What was it? Like, I mean, take us through this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So it's did he did he tell you that you know,
Nick Saban is the greatest of all time?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Did he make a sports choke? Did he bless you?
Take us? Take where did you see him? You got
to give us some of these details.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum, a
sort of Pope address in many different languages, you know,
with probably ten fifteen thousand people, maybe more than that,
in the in the square outside of Saint Peter's outdoor.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was a great weather.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
I believe they have a big public area down on
the in the in the larger sort of plaza there.
We were up close to the stage. He does all
of his all of his homily, his address in multiple
different languages, and then afterwards there are people that he greets.
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And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox happens
to be a law school classmate of And we were
a couple of months ago sitting around trying to think
of ways that he could introduce himself to the people
of Chicago. And I had seen that jd Vance presents
(22:14):
a Chicago Bears Jersey to the Pope, and I said,
you know what we should You should invite him to
come and throw out the first pitch at a proposed
new stadium that they are in the process of working
through in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems
(22:34):
like a good idea. And then the process of okay, well,
how do you get in touch with the Pope to
be able to get a meeting. He seems really really
excited at the idea he got a For people out
there who are sports fans, the Chicago White Sox won
the World Series in two thousand and five and Pop Leo,
(22:55):
obviously not the Pope then, was in the crowd at
the World Series, and so he's a huge White Sox fan,
and so my friend, the new owner, one of the
new owners soon to be officially the owner, got the
whole team from two thousand and five to sign a
White Sox jersey from that year, and then also conveyed
(23:20):
the offer to the Pope, you know, schedule permitting for
the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch
when they opened the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge,
to Chicago since nineteen seventy nine. So again, this happened
early this morning in the Vatican and is becoming a
big story obviously in Chicago, and I think a lot
(23:40):
of people are finding it to be just a you know, awesome,
cool story in general overall. If you are you know,
there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything
like that, but if you are a fan of sports,
it's just kind of cool to have an American pope
and someone who is going to to hopefully in the
(24:02):
next couple of years, be able to come to Chicago
and uh and and do something incredibly unique and awesome
in the in the city. So that's kind of so.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The offer was made, but we don't we we don't
yet know if the pope is going to be able
to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Is that is that right?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, he just I mean, the Pope's schedule, as one
might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants
to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what
the date is. But it's kind of what I would
say as a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer
was coming. He was excited to be able to get
the offer, to get the jersey, to be able to
meet and uh, I think he's going to uh. I
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think he's going to try and uh and and I
mean he said he's going to try and do it,
so it could it should be a pretty awesome event.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Look at you globe trying.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
So Ma's just trying to do good things and make
the world a little bit better places. Everyone assume that
I always will be trying to do.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And Clay Clay is uh is making his making his
moves over there at the Catholic Rock of Saint Peter,
that is the church. Uh So, now tell me what
you think about the Epstein foles. Since we got you
on the phone, since we got you, I mean, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I'm glad that everybody has voted to release him. Buck,
you've got the rest of the show. I Am going
to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a
great dinner in Rome. Uh you you brought. I hope
that all right that you have.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have some
gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun and
very cool. Congratulations on the meeting with the Pope, and
thank you sir. Come come back Friday or Monday, whatever
you got.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Okay, we'll do I'll see you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Have fun, Matt, have a good dinner. So I there
you go. Clay met the Pope. So there's that, and
that was why he was he was going this week.
It's very exciting, very exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
The Pope.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Also we did have I was going to read the
email from from Cissy who said that that's what she
thought was happening, and that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call.
She said, I'm looking forward to hearing the details of
Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is
he got a once in a lifetime interview with the
Pope since he's a baseball fan.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Just a wild guest. There you go. You nailed it,
and Cissy, we got your follow up. Ema.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Oh my goodness, I got it correct, Clay and the Pope.
Maybe I should buy a lottery tickets. So we did
have and that was before Clay tweeted about this or
put it out on x But this was before that happened.
Clay was supposed to reveal this on the show, but
he's Clay. He does whatever he wants. So there we are, team,
Why don't we Because we're gonna have kind of a
hard turn coming up here into the world of from.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Meeting with the Pope to the release of the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We have a little bit of a of a transition
to do, and we'll can stack some calls and some
talkbacks on this one because I think that what we
are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been
demanding all along. We also have the White House weighing
(27:17):
in on the filibuster via Caroline Levitt, and Trump really
rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi leadership, which
is something that I think this is a good thing
for the region, a good thing for America, for the
Middle East, I mean good thing for America. I think
(27:37):
you might see a normalization of relations between Israel and
Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, furthering the Abraham Accords,
and I think you might see the big move in
the Middle East with regard to that, and Trump is
trying to bring that about. Of course, there are the detractors,
the haters out there, the people who are upset that
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Trump would sit with the head of state of a
country that, whether we want to deal with the Saudis
or not, is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather
energy market, and we really don't have a choice. So
why not have a constructive relationship with the Saudis. Why
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not try to encourage them to yes, invest in America,
which is a huge focus from Trump, but also to
do what they can to liberalize. I know Saudi Arabia
is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of the and I
know about the past with Saudi Arabia's role in unfortunately
exporting the what we used to refer to very much
(28:42):
as the Wahabist ideology, which is a radical interpretation of
Islam setting up Wahabist mosques.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
All over the world. They've moved away from that.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They've become a constructive partner for security in the region,
and they're making overtures toward a better relationship with Israel,
and that would be very helpful for Middle East peace
and stability. So that's why that's going on. Also, something else,
We're gonna have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running
(29:13):
for Senate up there in North Carolina, a very important
Senate seat, And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway
in North Carolina that there's pushback, of course from Democrats.
What's really going on there? When I tell you I
have some stats, When I tell you how many kids
(29:34):
are staying home because of immigration illegal alien immigration enforcement
in North Carolina, I think you're gonna be pretty shocked.
And it gives you a sense of how enormous the
scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this.
(29:55):
You are paying for this, especially if you live in
North Carolina, live in these districts where the kids are
staying home. You're paying for English as a second language
training in these schools. You are bringing in students from
abroad who are going to be far beyond, a far behind.
We already through many Americans behind grade level, I mean
(30:15):
way behind grade level and hold the.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Rest of the class back.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean, think about this if English is not their
first language and then they're put in these classrooms.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
There's just so much going on here.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We'll talk to Michael Waltley about the immigration forestment component
of this coming up. And like I said, we'll get
to your calls here. Epstein files, Trump is signing it.
Congress has said, all right, you're getting the files.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this good enough? Is assuming it happens? Is this
good enough? Is there more? What do you think? Give
us a call.
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Speaker 2 (32:06):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got
some calls rolling in. Let's get to them.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Ron in Saint Petersburg, Florida.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And we got another Ron who's going to be calling
in tomorrow, the Governor of Florida. Ron, the great State
of Florida and our fantastic governor. Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
I love the show. I love Clay being able to
go see the Pope and get him to throw out
the first baseball. Now, I think that's awesome. I'm a
local pastor. But the reason I called in was just
to say, it's sad that the only unity we can
have is something that has to do with a man
that's already dead, and we can't do anything about what's
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already been done. Yes, everyone should be prosecuted that's done wrong,
and that in that sense with Epstein, But where is
the unity of Congress when it comes to the economy
of our nation?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, I mean that's thank you for calling Inswer.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, there's there's unity on this issue now, and we'll
see how long the sense of unity lasts after this
information is made public. Because I think it will be
very rapidly and in bad faith, uh, really weaponized and
transformed if it has to be, and it will have
to be, in my opinion, to be somehow an attack
(33:28):
on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
As for why there's not unity, well, because they're lunatic
communists who are emotionally unstable and don't view the world
as it is and we're trying to actually deal with
a complicated world like adults, as as the right as Republicans.
That's that's the reason we can't get unity. It's unfortunately,
that's the way it is. And that's where we are.
Anna in Raleigh, North Carolina, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Enna?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You're welcome. You hear me, Yeah, we all hear it.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
I think it's about Tom. I think it's about Tom.
Speaker 13 (34:05):
That everything comes out about Epstein, all those that were
involved in it need to be prosecuted and all the
conspiracies be done with it. Be done with it, because
nobody in the country is going to hear anything else
until this is over.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Do you think this will be the end of it
in terms of transparency demands and the information or do
you think that this is just another step in the process.
Speaker 13 (34:32):
Well, that depends whether or not if any arrests come
out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's a big that's a big and very valid, very
valid point to race. Thank you so much for calling in.
Let's take some talkbacks here. Sonny from Scottsdale, Arizona bb.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
BB.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Hello, Hi claim Buck.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I am a here fan. I listen to you guys
every day. I'm Discustal Arizona, and it just makes me
so mad that they cannot stop attacking Donald Trump. They
had every chance to get the Epstein files open when
Biden was in office, and they did nothing. And now
Trump is trying to be transparent with this besides taking
(35:17):
care of everything else, and they're still attacking them. Just
pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I feel the same way about this.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think that they you know, also.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I'll tell you something, as a as a man, there's
something particularly galling and outrageous about people knowingly falsely insinuating
some kind of sex crime or sexual impropriety. And they're
(35:49):
doing this to Trump all the time. And you know,
I ask any guy, it's it's such an underhanded thing
to do.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And this is what they've been doing, whether.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It was the they've been doing this against Trump all along.
There's all kinds of accusations they've leveled against him, and
they're gonna think unfortunate. They're going to continue to do this.
So we will continue to talk about this situation. Next hour,
we'll have Michael Wattley, former R and C chairman and
North Carolina Senate Canadate talking about the immigration raids in
(36:17):
North Carolina, and we'll also look at how the Democrats
are positioning themselves with this Epstein release. And also, oh
and Trump talking about Saudi Arabia and how the he said,
I think a trillion dollars of investment he's trying to
get to the Saudis. Trillion dollars is real money, everybody.
We'll discuss all that and we'll take your calls. I'm
(36:39):
gona keep rocking on the show and we will bask
in the holiness. Maybe there's a halo over Clay's head
after his meeting with the Pope
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now. A lot going on, so we
know yesterday when I was on the air with you, Oh,
Clay will in fact call us from his super secret
mission abroad this hour, So we're gonna set that up
for you. Clay's out for the week's traveling, but he
(00:24):
wants to tell you what he's been up to. One
of you might have already guessed it, which was a
pretty remarkable, remarkable thing. But he'll be joining us later on,
and we also have Michael Wattley joining He's running for
Senate North Carolina, so looking forward to that as that
conversation gets rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now, we had yesterday the House all voting in favor
of except for one guy, a Republican voting in favor
of the Epstein Transparency Act. And then we had and
last night the Senate passing the same bill unanimously. Senators
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locked in agreement, automatically passing the bill as soon as
it came in from the House. Just looking at the
updates here. Once the President signs the bill, the Justice
Department has thirty days to release materials related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now this is moving.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The President has already said that he believes this is
or that he's supportive of this. Now he has said
that he thinks this is the right move. So we're
going to get into what's going to happen here. It's
not like we're going to know all of the details
even for some time here. There may be further redactions
(01:51):
that happen, or rather that we will have to contend with,
because my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough,
then people will say that's not going to fly, that's
not good enough. There have to be more things that
are released. So that's one possibility. Another possibility is that
(02:13):
there's nothing massive I say massive in the information that
is released, the files, if you will, of this investigation,
and then people just say they hid stuff, and there's
still a clamoring for more transparency, more. Those are all
the things. Those are some of the things that I
think could come out of this.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But there was this today.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
As I was preparing for our show. Here this is
cut twenty seven Pambondi, the Attorney General, referring to the
Epstein investigation as a pending investigation. Play twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The issue with the new information that you just indicated,
are is the Department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein
is State because mister Blanche did not have that information
when he interviewed the Lane. Maxwell, what new information? And
would you limit the new investigation to just those named
persons that the President talked about or is this a
(03:12):
broad open ended investigation.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I would refer to the Deputy Attorney General's post that
he put out on X and we will We're not
going to say anything else on that because now it
is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
York, a pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein
financial records from JP Morgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, and the
US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
A few things here I can't tell you. I don't
know obviously, none of you know, no one outside of
a very small circle nose in this release that Donald Trump,
I am very confident, is going to sign the final step,
if you will, before the release. And then there's thirty days,
so we're gonna wait a bit. We're gonna wait a
(04:13):
bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days,
but they have up to thirty days to release. Maybe
it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the
bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say
to myself, because you know, and the House has already
released sixty five thousand documents related to Epstein, you know
(04:33):
very well that I have been pounding a certain drum
on this issue of follow the money, follow the money.
It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it
should be unthinkable maybe a better way of putting it,
that we do not have a full accounting of how
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Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars.
This guy did not create some new product, He did
not found some company. He was not some hedge fun
guy running thirty billion dollars of other people's money. There
are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice
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is not one of them. It's just not one of them.
And so this then brings up how did he make
this money? Why is it that there were some people
in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably and I mean that
in the real sense of can't believe it, unbelievably generous
(05:42):
to him. Why the money, I think is the single
best chance we have to get these answers. According to
subpoenias that were just put out by the House, JP
Morgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previous held
by Epstein, flagging some forty seven hundred transactions as suspicious.
(06:05):
Epstein held accounts and bench with the bank with Deutsche
Bank from twenty thirteen until twenty eighteen. So they're going
back in here into the money trail, and I sit
here wondering how it is. And by the way, I
want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions
here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How
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is it possible that we don't have a full and
clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from.
We've had a little bit here, a little bit there,
but this should be obvious. And I might add, if
it's somewhere already, if they have the flow chart of funds,
if it's in the release, why haven't we already been
(06:52):
given it? Why is it taking all of this pressure
and all of this time. Why is it taking us
to this place to be in a situation to finally
get those answers?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So there's more that is coming out of here.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think you can pretty much set your watch to
this one. No matter what happens here with the files.
In terms of nothing, this is all about getting Trump
for the Democrats. And there's something very grotesque about Democrats
suddenly caring they didn't care about this during the Biden administration,
(07:33):
suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims,
all of this. It's hard not to view it as posturing,
because it is posturing, meant to create the moral high
ground from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump,
or at least the appearance of such a thing. No
(07:55):
matter what happens with these files, I can assure you
they will not say, you know, you know is cleared.
Trump didn't do any didn't do anything. And so that
also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so
immediately in favor of the release, because no matter how
much transparency he offers, or rather he gives, and for
(08:17):
a lot of people, I understand, this is a file
through on a campaign promise, So you want it irrespective
of anything else, and that's very valid, and clearly Trump
has decided that that's what's going to happen. This should
have been done. I think a lot of people recognize
now sooner. A lot of you were calling in and
demanding it, to which I just kept saying, Yeah, I
want more transparency. I don't have the files, right, he says,
(08:40):
it's not in my power to release them. All we
can do is air as we did, our sense that
there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered.
And I think that that has certainly happened. I think
that has certainly been a very real motivation here right,
(09:01):
telling people having the Trump base come forward and say
we don't have the answers we want. We're not accepting
anything else. It's time for this all to come clean now,
Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one.
He's saying that the president has nothing to do with it.
(09:23):
Democrats are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this.
They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't
appear one more time in the files.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Play clip one.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
This is a political exercise for Democrats. And it pains
me to say it. I wish that was not the truth,
but it is, and it's undeniable. This is as deceitful
and dishonest, as their pointless stunt was to shut the
government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable
evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring, and
all of the abuses that they that they made these
(09:53):
young women go through. They're using that as a political
weapon to try to distract from their failures as a
party and to try their best to try to tie
President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had
nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and
he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed
the vote today.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I think that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think the President is about to show all of
his naysayers, detractors, haters.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They're haters, they're not detractors, and they're deranged. In many cases.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They hate him in a way that is that is irrational,
and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy.
Trump Arrangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say
that it's enough. You can never convince the people who
have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that
there's not more to be found that would prove that
Trump is really the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So just be prepared for that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there saying already
that this is and this has cut three one of
the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
This will go down as one of the most damaging
moments of Donald Trump's presidency. In trying so hard to
hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion
he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress
and around the country. All the line, all the broken
promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members
(11:13):
of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown
up in Donald Trump's face. His usual methods of intimidation
and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So we are to believe if you listen to Chuck
Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately,
you know, the whole Schumer shut down disaster for him. Politically,
people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball used
to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying,
this is such a disaster. We are to believe that
the Biden doj which was on a jihad against Trump,
(11:51):
we are to believe that they had derogatory information about
Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal
criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally politically motivate,
but that they didn't release this. How does that add up?
(12:14):
You know, they never really address this. They just didn't
pay attention. It's not hard. You have all these files,
especially now with AI. I'm going to tell you something.
You could find Trump's name and find every reference to
him in seconds doing a simple search. And you could
use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump
adjacent in all these documents.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So don't tell me.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the
ability to figure this out. No, they're doing this because
for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful and completely
changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, the selfishness,
and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown
(12:59):
they've already managed. Notice, does it even feel like we
had a month long government shutdown for no good reason
except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it was years
ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation that's already
happened I can't stop it. You know, I wish I
had the power to direct the whole national conversation. We've
got millions of you who listen, but there's you know,
(13:20):
three hundred and fifty million people in the country when
you add all the illegals, something like that. So here
we are, and we're going to see Trump. We're going
to see Trump signing this, and then there's going to
be more files released and we'll continue to work through them.
I do not believe there will be a smoking gun.
I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show
(13:40):
which will be airing later today, and Peers dramatically strenuously
disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are
people who are going to go to prison over the
what's in the I completely I just don't see it,
because the DOJ then would have to admit that they
were holding files that should have brought prosecution for child
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sex traffickers.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Really, they're right at the deal.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe
the dj would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's
that's quite a stretch. And then they're going to release
it and have to say, oh yeah, we were covering
up for these guys. Are people even going to accept this?
Ask yourself this question. Ask it now? Are people going
(14:26):
to accept if they do put out all this stuff
they've got in their possession? Will there be an acceptance
that this is everything that they really have?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Will we ever get all the answers?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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All right, welcome back in, everybody to play?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And Buck and that other guy, mister Clay who is
he's taking a taking a page from the Buckster's book,
being an international man of mystery. He may be joining
us here shortly, and we have do we have Cissy
on the line right now. Oh, I'm sorry, Cissy an
(16:46):
email here. I'm looking forward to hearing the details of
Clay's super secret trip on the show, my guests.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, you know what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I can't read it because I don't I want Clay
to be able to. But we will give Cissy credit.
Cissy emailed us, and she nailed it. I don't know
if she's I don't know how this is possible, if
she's got like a friend who's a relative in the
Travis family. But I said, super secret international mystery, and Sissy,
very impressive.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We will we will say what it is in a moment.
But you wrote a newn email and you knew exactly
what mister Clay was doing. So this is uh, that's
what we'd call it. Teas in the business. So I'll
be joining us.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I can tell you the country he's in, and I
told him if he doesn't come back ten pounds heavier.
By the way, we're gonna rack and stack your Epstein
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As the name implies, there are two of them, but
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
But they will call in from said mission. Mister Clay
Travis joins us. Tell us where you are first, Clay, I.
Speaker 11 (19:19):
Am in Rome.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus, and I got to
go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to
to you know, complete this this idea that we had,
which I think was a pretty cool one, to invite
the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an
(19:43):
opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of
this has uh has happened. Today. It's evening, getting ready
to go out and have some wine and have a
good dinner. But it was an awesome day. So that
was the super secret trip. I didn't want to step
on anything about the about the process of getting that
(20:03):
invite out to the Pope. But UH got to meet
the ambassadors UH to Italy and the UH and the
Vatican City got to be there for the UH for
the offer to the Pope. And UH. There's video and
UH and footage. I think that's gonna be up on
out kick soon that we'll try to get shared with
(20:23):
you guys.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So, so you you have met with the Pontiffy, you're
not You're not a Catholic, right, Clay?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I am not? Yeah, and you're not and uh, but
it was it was a yes.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But certainly what I was gonna say is of people
right for our Catholic audience is like a really really
big deal. You know, it would be amazing to to
be able to actually meet the Pope in person.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What was it? Like, I mean, take us through this.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
So it's did he did he tell you that you know,
Nick Saban is the greatest of all time?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Did he make a sports choke? Did he bless you?
Take us? Take where did you see him? You got
to give us some of these details.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum, a
sort of Pope address in many different languages, you know,
with probably ten fifteen thousand people, maybe more than that,
in the in the square outside of Saint Peter's outdoor.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was a great weather.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
I believe they have a big public area down on
the in the in the larger sort of plaza there.
We were up close to the stage. He does all
of his all of his homily, his address in multiple
different languages, and then afterwards there are people that he greets.
(21:53):
And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox happens
to be a law school classmate of And we were
a couple of months ago sitting around trying to think
of ways that he could introduce himself to the people
of Chicago. And I had seen that jd Vance presents
(22:14):
a Chicago Bears Jersey to the Pope, and I said,
you know what we should You should invite him to
come and throw out the first pitch at a proposed
new stadium that they are in the process of working
through in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems
(22:34):
like a good idea. And then the process of okay, well,
how do you get in touch with the Pope to
be able to get a meeting. He seems really really
excited at the idea he got a For people out
there who are sports fans, the Chicago White Sox won
the World Series in two thousand and five and Pop Leo,
(22:55):
obviously not the Pope then, was in the crowd at
the World Series, and so he's a huge White Sox fan,
and so my friend, the new owner, one of the
new owners soon to be officially the owner, got the
whole team from two thousand and five to sign a
White Sox jersey from that year, and then also conveyed
(23:20):
the offer to the Pope, you know, schedule permitting for
the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch
when they opened the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge,
to Chicago since nineteen seventy nine. So again, this happened
early this morning in the Vatican and is becoming a
big story obviously in Chicago, and I think a lot
(23:40):
of people are finding it to be just a you know, awesome,
cool story in general overall. If you are you know,
there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything
like that, but if you are a fan of sports,
it's just kind of cool to have an American pope
and someone who is going to to hopefully in the
(24:02):
next couple of years, be able to come to Chicago
and uh and and do something incredibly unique and awesome
in the in the city. So that's kind of so.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The offer was made, but we don't we we don't
yet know if the pope is going to be able
to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Is that is that right?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, he just I mean, the Pope's schedule, as one
might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants
to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what
the date is. But it's kind of what I would
say as a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer
was coming. He was excited to be able to get
the offer, to get the jersey, to be able to
meet and uh, I think he's going to uh. I
(24:42):
think he's going to try and uh and and I
mean he said he's going to try and do it,
so it could it should be a pretty awesome event.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Look at you globe trying.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
So Ma's just trying to do good things and make
the world a little bit better places. Everyone assume that
I always will be trying to do.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And Clay Clay is uh is making his making his
moves over there at the Catholic Rock of Saint Peter,
that is the church. Uh So, now tell me what
you think about the Epstein foles. Since we got you
on the phone, since we got you, I mean, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I'm glad that everybody has voted to release him. Buck,
you've got the rest of the show. I Am going
to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a
great dinner in Rome. Uh you you brought. I hope
that all right that you have.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have some
gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun and
very cool. Congratulations on the meeting with the Pope, and
thank you sir. Come come back Friday or Monday, whatever
you got.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Okay, we'll do I'll see you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Have fun, Matt, have a good dinner. So I there
you go. Clay met the Pope. So there's that, and
that was why he was he was going this week.
It's very exciting, very exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
The Pope.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Also we did have I was going to read the
email from from Cissy who said that that's what she
thought was happening, and that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call.
She said, I'm looking forward to hearing the details of
Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is
he got a once in a lifetime interview with the
Pope since he's a baseball fan.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Just a wild guest. There you go. You nailed it,
and Cissy, we got your follow up. Ema.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Oh my goodness, I got it correct, Clay and the Pope.
Maybe I should buy a lottery tickets. So we did
have and that was before Clay tweeted about this or
put it out on x But this was before that happened.
Clay was supposed to reveal this on the show, but
he's Clay. He does whatever he wants. So there we are, team,
Why don't we Because we're gonna have kind of a
hard turn coming up here into the world of from.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Meeting with the Pope to the release of the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We have a little bit of a of a transition
to do, and we'll can stack some calls and some
talkbacks on this one because I think that what we
are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been
demanding all along. We also have the White House weighing
(27:17):
in on the filibuster via Caroline Levitt, and Trump really
rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi leadership, which
is something that I think this is a good thing
for the region, a good thing for America, for the
Middle East, I mean good thing for America. I think
(27:37):
you might see a normalization of relations between Israel and
Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, furthering the Abraham Accords,
and I think you might see the big move in
the Middle East with regard to that, and Trump is
trying to bring that about. Of course, there are the detractors,
the haters out there, the people who are upset that
(27:57):
Trump would sit with the head of state of a
country that, whether we want to deal with the Saudis
or not, is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather
energy market, and we really don't have a choice. So
why not have a constructive relationship with the Saudis. Why
(28:18):
not try to encourage them to yes, invest in America,
which is a huge focus from Trump, but also to
do what they can to liberalize. I know Saudi Arabia
is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of the and I
know about the past with Saudi Arabia's role in unfortunately
exporting the what we used to refer to very much
(28:42):
as the Wahabist ideology, which is a radical interpretation of
Islam setting up Wahabist mosques.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
All over the world. They've moved away from that.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They've become a constructive partner for security in the region,
and they're making overtures toward a better relationship with Israel,
and that would be very helpful for Middle East peace
and stability. So that's why that's going on. Also, something else,
We're gonna have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running
(29:13):
for Senate up there in North Carolina, a very important
Senate seat, And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway
in North Carolina that there's pushback, of course from Democrats.
What's really going on there? When I tell you I
have some stats, When I tell you how many kids
(29:34):
are staying home because of immigration illegal alien immigration enforcement
in North Carolina, I think you're gonna be pretty shocked.
And it gives you a sense of how enormous the
scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this.
(29:55):
You are paying for this, especially if you live in
North Carolina, live in these districts where the kids are
staying home. You're paying for English as a second language
training in these schools. You are bringing in students from
abroad who are going to be far beyond, a far behind.
We already through many Americans behind grade level, I mean
(30:15):
way behind grade level and hold the.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Rest of the class back.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean, think about this if English is not their
first language and then they're put in these classrooms.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
There's just so much going on here.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We'll talk to Michael Waltley about the immigration forestment component
of this coming up. And like I said, we'll get
to your calls here. Epstein files, Trump is signing it.
Congress has said, all right, you're getting the files.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this good enough? Is assuming it happens? Is this
good enough? Is there more? What do you think? Give
us a call.
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Speaker 2 (32:06):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got
some calls rolling in. Let's get to them.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Ron in Saint Petersburg, Florida.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And we got another Ron who's going to be calling
in tomorrow, the Governor of Florida. Ron, the great State
of Florida and our fantastic governor. Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
I love the show. I love Clay being able to
go see the Pope and get him to throw out
the first baseball. Now, I think that's awesome. I'm a
local pastor. But the reason I called in was just
to say, it's sad that the only unity we can
have is something that has to do with a man
that's already dead, and we can't do anything about what's
(32:46):
already been done. Yes, everyone should be prosecuted that's done wrong,
and that in that sense with Epstein, But where is
the unity of Congress when it comes to the economy
of our nation?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, I mean that's thank you for calling Inswer.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, there's there's unity on this issue now, and we'll
see how long the sense of unity lasts after this
information is made public. Because I think it will be
very rapidly and in bad faith, uh, really weaponized and
transformed if it has to be, and it will have
to be, in my opinion, to be somehow an attack
(33:28):
on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
As for why there's not unity, well, because they're lunatic
communists who are emotionally unstable and don't view the world
as it is and we're trying to actually deal with
a complicated world like adults, as as the right as Republicans.
That's that's the reason we can't get unity. It's unfortunately,
that's the way it is. And that's where we are.
Anna in Raleigh, North Carolina, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Enna?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You're welcome. You hear me, Yeah, we all hear it.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
I think it's about Tom. I think it's about Tom.
Speaker 13 (34:05):
That everything comes out about Epstein, all those that were
involved in it need to be prosecuted and all the
conspiracies be done with it. Be done with it, because
nobody in the country is going to hear anything else
until this is over.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Do you think this will be the end of it
in terms of transparency demands and the information or do
you think that this is just another step in the process.
Speaker 13 (34:32):
Well, that depends whether or not if any arrests come
out of it.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's a big that's a big and very valid, very
valid point to race. Thank you so much for calling in.
Let's take some talkbacks here. Sonny from Scottsdale, Arizona bb.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
BB.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Hello, Hi claim Buck.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I am a here fan. I listen to you guys
every day. I'm Discustal Arizona, and it just makes me
so mad that they cannot stop attacking Donald Trump. They
had every chance to get the Epstein files open when
Biden was in office, and they did nothing. And now
Trump is trying to be transparent with this besides taking
(35:17):
care of everything else, and they're still attacking them. Just
pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I feel the same way about this.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think that they you know, also.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I'll tell you something, as a as a man, there's
something particularly galling and outrageous about people knowingly falsely insinuating
some kind of sex crime or sexual impropriety. And they're
(35:49):
doing this to Trump all the time. And you know,
I ask any guy, it's it's such an underhanded thing
to do.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And this is what they've been doing, whether.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It was the they've been doing this against Trump all along.
There's all kinds of accusations they've leveled against him, and
they're gonna think unfortunate. They're going to continue to do this.
So we will continue to talk about this situation. Next hour,
we'll have Michael Wattley, former R and C chairman and
North Carolina Senate Canadate talking about the immigration raids in
(36:17):
North Carolina, and we'll also look at how the Democrats
are positioning themselves with this Epstein release. And also, oh
and Trump talking about Saudi Arabia and how the he said,
I think a trillion dollars of investment he's trying to
get to the Saudis. Trillion dollars is real money, everybody.
We'll discuss all that and we'll take your calls. I'm
(36:39):
gona keep rocking on the show and we will bask
in the holiness. Maybe there's a halo over Clay's head
after his meeting with the Pope
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