August 14, 2024 • 36 mins
CNN's Harry Enten emphasizes that Trump's in better shape now than in 2016 or 2020. The pathway to Trump victory is turning out white working class voters. NYT/Siena poll shows Kamala surging with white working class, but Buck doesn't buy it. Paul Begala says Kamala has revitalized Democrat Party. We're supposed to forget all the talk of dumping her from the Biden ticket. Axios scrubs descriptions of Kamala as border czar.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and I'm happy to say that
increasingly I find myself a voice of comfort common reason
for so many of my conservative friends out there. Probably
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not gonna tell anybody names, not going to name the name.
I'm getting people texting me saying, why are you so confident?
How can you be so confident that Trump will win?
And I don't know, just go with my gut. I
feel it, feel it in my bones, I feel it
in my toes, I feel it in my soul.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I believe in Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I believe in the movement, and I know that right
now they're trying so hard to make everybody out there
doubt that Donald Trump can win, and I will not
fall into that trap. We will look at these numbers,
We will look at the data as it stands now,
but also put it in the proper context, look at
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the timeline, look at the momentum and what lies ahead.
This is a show where we take a deep breath
and make sure that we are firmly rooted in reality.
We'll also discuss later on what is the Harris Walls
foreign policy. My friend Bridge called the brilliant guy and
just random side note, I think when Bridge was at
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Yale Law School and working in DC for the first time,
we used to drink together twenty years ago in DC
when I was a young CIA officer. So here we
are decades later and we get to hang out on
the radio and talk to a few million of our
closest friends.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's amazing, what a small world it is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We've also got unions. Are they union membership, not the leadership,
the membership? Are they starting to go for Donald Trump?
Cover at New York Post? Five billion dollars spent on
migrants in New York City?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Five billions. That's where we are now.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So you have trouble looking at your gas and food
and rent payments and not having your eyeballs fall out
of your head.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Meanwhile, the taxes, and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
This is especially for our wo R listeners and NYC,
the taxes you are paying to New York and in
the New York City Metro are being funneled to make
sure that illegals are living in four star hotels with
culturally sensitive meals prepared for them, debit cards handed to
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them in some cases with money on it, and all
the rest of it, and horrible crimes being committed by
some of these migrants. I meant to get to the
story yesterday. I'll get to it today. What happened down
in Coney Island. I mean, I think should be a
death penalty offense. Of course that's not going to happen
in New York. But the violent rape of a woman
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by two illegals, one of whom had already committed a
violent sexual assault somehow not kicked out of the country.
You know, I want to dive into that story. And
also another multiple time offender, this one I believe in
the Boston area raped a child, a girl, young girl,
the fourteen years old. I think it was a fifteen
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years old and should have been deported, wasn't deported. And
you will not believe what the Boston police have done
with this guy, despite ice, immigrations and customs enforcements saying hey,
can you hold on to the.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Serial sexual predator.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We would like to get rid of him from this
country and send him back because he's an illegal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
What do you think Boston PD did? We're going to
get into all that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I will never forget our focus here on immigration, illegal
immigration as alongside the debt and the just leviath in
federal government.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We have the biggest.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Long term challenge that the country faces to stay as
it is so ed, to stay a free republic based
on a constitution and with a shared culture, a shared history.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And yes, a shared language.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
These are all important, critical things, actually critical building blocks
for our society. And if they kick at the load
bearing walls of our civilization as they are doing without
us pushing back.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We all know what will happen. But I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Get into this now because I'm happy to calm those
who are worried and to tell them that it's gonna
be okay. Trump's gonna win. And if Trump doesn't win,
it's you know, we'll figure that out too. But I mean,
it's gonna be okay. Trump's gonna win this thing, all right.
(04:57):
I have I have faith that he's gonna win. He's
gonna win solidly.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'll tell you this. It marked this prediction down. I
think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than he
beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. There you go, who
would have seen that coming, right? Remember what we felt
like in twenty sixteen. I think he will beat Kamala
Harris in the electoral College by a wider margin than
he beat Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think that will actually happen this time.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You can call me crazy, you can call me crazy,
but I think that that's possible. Maybe that's too bold
of a prediction, but I do think he's gonna win.
Maybe I'm walking back my prediction right now as I'm
thinking about the numbers in my head, but I do
think he's gonna win. I believe he's gonna win, and
I think it is rooted in the data. Let's get
into this, Okay. First of all, CNN, Harry Engine. Look,
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CNN is doing everything they can to make sure that
the Harris campaign feels and sounds like it has momentum. Remember,
she's not even really campaigning. The media is campaign for her.
The media's campaigning for her. Now, CNN's data guy said this,
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This was yesterday, and I'm gonna get to what he's
said more recently about this. This is yesterday on CNN
News Central, looking at this New York Times Siena poll.
But I'm here to tell you don't worry about this poll,
all right. I don't want to be clear. I don't
look at the.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Polls every day. Oh, I'm scared. What are we gonna do?
It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Here is this guy, Harry Enton talking about Kamala Harris
and how Democrats shouldn't be over confident.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
This is twenty three.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Play it in those states dimensioned, those great Lake battleground states,
Trump was underestimated by nine points on average at this
point in twenty sixteen. How about twenty twenty. It wasn't
a one off look at this he was underestimated by.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Five points on average.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And of course, Kamala Harris's advantage in those New York
Times Santa College poles were four points in each of
these key battleground states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. The bottom line
is this, if you have any idea, if you're a
Kamala Harris fan and you want to rip open the
champagne bottle, pop.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That quirk, do not do it. Donald Trump is very
much in this race. If we have a polling shift
like we've seen.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
In prior years from now until the final result, donald
Trump would actually win. I'm not saying that's going to happen,
but I am saying that he is very much in
this ballgame. Based upon where he is right now and
compare that to where he was in prior years.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's in a better spot than he's been in in
prior years. I will say, I retract my He'll beat
her by more than Hillary twenty sixteen. As I'm looking
at the electoral map, I had forgotten I was going
off the cuff there. I had forgotten that Trump ran
the table across the Midwest in twenty sixteen. It was
remarkable when you look back at it this time around.
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I mean, I'm trying to think of what he could
win this time that he didn't win in twenty sixteen.
The only thing that really looks like it could have
would be Virginia. But I think Kama's going to win Virginia.
In fact, God, Kamala maybe in some ways a better
candidate than Biden was for the state of Virginia. So
scratch that one from the record. But I do think
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that he's going to win. Dude, Maybe he will replicate
the twenty sixteen electoral map. That would be that would
be a best case scenario. If he can win Pennsylvania,
he can win. Oh no, I'm sorry, Nevada. There we go, Nevada.
I'm looking at the twenty sixteen map right now, he'll
he could pick up Nevada, which he didn't pick up
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in twenty sixteen, So that would be the one that
would be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Am I missing anything that else is really on the table?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
See, I knew there was something, but yeah, I think
that he'll get close to what he did before. I
think the map may look very similar to did in
twenty sixteen. That would be amazing, but I think it's
very possible. I think they're trying to tell you Harris
is in a much stronger position than she is because
they have to shape perception right away. And I think
that the the CNN numbers guru there when he's telling
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telling you that they've underestimated Trump's strength in the Midwest
in the past, I think that they're doing that again.
That's very likely. And here's why. Comes down to the
white working class voter. And I cannot foresee a situation
where Trump, rather where Harris does better with those Midwestern
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white working class.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Voters than Joe Biden did.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So now we're focusing back on twenty twenty instead of
twenty sixteen. Our friend Ryan Gerdusky put this one out.
For example, in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, Trump won
whites without a college degree by thirty six points and
thirty two points. So there, and Ryan says, quote, there's
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no way she's sliced his lead with those voters in half.
It just didn't happen. I've talked to Ryan about this.
I totally agree. I do not believe that there's been
some huge short For this New York Times Siena poll
to be accurate, there would have.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
To be a huge surge.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Of white working class support for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I do not. I just don't buy it. I don't
buy it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But they know people like me have been saying, why
is Trump going to win white working class voters? So
this is the way that the numbers can come out
and look really strong for Harris. I think that this
is another thing from CNN. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin voters. This
is a percentage of the electorate, Okay, black or Hispanic
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in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. What do you think the percentage
of black and Hispanic voters in those states is overall.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
College educated white voters twenty seven percent in those states
of the electorate non college educated white voters in those states,
fifty percent of the electorate. That half of the electorate
determines this election, and a few percentage points in that
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half of the electorate in those swing states is going
to be determinative. I hope the Trump team is listening.
I hope they're on the ball on point on this one.
I hope they're ready to go, because the numbers are
very clear here. You know, I'm going to tell you
this Trump team in twenty twenty really focused on trying
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to turn out a little more in the black vote,
a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
In the Hispanic vote.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Wasn't a path to victory, wasn't a path of victory,
and didn't work, not a not any meaningful way. Obviously,
Biden's been president for four years. So this time around,
the focus on white working class voters and voter turnout
among that group is.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The pathway to victory.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So for those of you listening in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
who are truckers, who are plumbers, who are contractors, who
are and assuming you're falling into that non college educated,
which some of you do, some of you don't, but
the trades, those who make a living with their hands, right,
not white collar office workers. You get to determine whether
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Kamala Harris is the president or Donald Trump is the president.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Really, that's what this comes down to.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So it's a lot of power in your hands and
your friends and your colleagues and your family.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Members in those states. That is where it really matters.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right now, they're trying to claim Kamala Harris has made
a huge has made huge inroads with those voters. Let's
return to that in a moment. I'm open to they
just the poll isn't very good as an argument, but
I also feel like that's a little too convenient, isn't it.
They're suddenly running these really really important numbers that are
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skewing toward Harris in this way. I'm just I was
thinking about twenty sixteen. I'm getting a twenty sixteen tingle here.
And I understand, up to this point, we've said the polls,
the polls, the polls. Well, yeah, but that's because both sides.
It was understandable that both sides would see the polls
as accurate because they wanted Biden to be gone and
it was so obvious that they couldn't. You can shade things,
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four percent, three percent, you know, maybe maybe five percent.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Biden was falling off a cliff. I mean, Biden was
going to lose New Jersey. So yeah, there's no there's
no way that you can cover that up in polling data.
But right now are they playing around with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, they're playing They're changing everything about Harris's record, They're
hiding her from the public. They're doing everything they can
to make sure that she's the president, no matter what
kind of see dissembling lies that they have to tell.
So will they manipulate the numbers the data, Yeah, I'm
sure they will. Let's get into this. I want to
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
All right, welcome back in. So we're talking about how Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Wins maybe the theme of today's show, how Trump wins
white working class voters Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Will Trump run the table on those states and also.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Throw Nevada in the mix, in which case he would
actually get more than he did in twenty sixteen, and
that would be amazing. And I think I do think
it's possible. I think it's possible. Maybe that's overly optimistic,
but I don't know. I just got a feeling about
this one. And I don't usually just run with it
like that, but I got a feeling about this one.
I feel very confident, a quiet, cool confidence about Trump,
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and it's based in the numbers. Now, same CNN guy
Harry Enton is out there telling everybody that Kamala is
surging with white working class voters. I want to talk
to you about this play.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Nine white working class voters, white voters without a college street.
That is Donald Trump's core group. That was the reason
why he was able to break down that giant blue
wall Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, in the Great Lakes. And look
at their support now versus where we were a few
months ago when the matchup was between Donald Trump and
Joe Biden. Look, Donald Trump still leads, but look at
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that margin. It has shrunk significantly. It was twenty five
points back in May. It is now fourteen points now
here in August nearly been sliced by half. Those numbers
that Harris is putting up amongst that group right now
are actually slightly better than Joe Biden did four years
ago amongst those voters in those key states. Those are
the types of numbers that Kamala Harris needs to put
up in order to win.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
She's not going to put up those numbers, Hey, mark
my ware, that's not going to happen. You're not going
to have Trump win whites without a college degree by
thirty six points in twenty sixteen and thirty two points
in twenty twenty, and then all of a sudden he you.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Know he wins them by ten points.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now because Kamala Harris is running no chance or twelve
points or whatever, they're saying, no chance, it's not going
to happen. So I'm not buying it. And because I'm
not buying it, still very confident. But we'll get into
more of why why do I think that Trump is
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The problem is he's up against a younger, more dynamic
woman who has revitalized the Democratic Party. He does not
know what to do, so he's falling back on the
same kind of insults and denigration and decision and I
don't think it's working. I don't think it's gonna work,
and the Democrats need to be very careful en not
to fall into that trap. But I just don't see that.
It's why he's so desperate. Honestly, I feel bad for
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the woman, Suzy Wilds, who's running this campaign. I don't
know her, but she seems like a total pro and
I can tell when she's in charge. They actually seem
to be doing well, and they talk about issues like
Jennings is trying to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Immigration, okay, but when Trump is in charge.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It's just this nutty at best and racist at worst
of pure Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm gonna tell you something that was Paul mgala, And
the more he is telling us how great Kamala Harris
is and how confident he's in her strategy, the better
I feel.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
About Trump's chances. That's why I played that for you.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know there's that guy Kramer was like, hey, buy
and sell this stock, and he's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Got the hungh hunk and all the different you know,
noises and stuff, very famous, the NBC guy.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And people have talked about.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The reverse Kramer fund, where you do whatever he says
to buy, you sell, or whatever he says to sell
you buy. And I don't know how that's really done
over time, but it's kind of an ongoing joke among
those who are placing bets in the markets. I feel
that way about Paul mcgalla and a lot of these
old Clinton era political political hacks, especially when they come
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forward to tell you how great Kamala Harris is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Were they saying Kamala Harris was great six months ago.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh, she's dynamic and revitalized the They were trying to
find an excuse to boot her off the Democrat ticket
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Do you remember this, I remember it. All these little murmurs.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Harris's roughly fifty staff members, five have lasted from the
beginning of her time as VP to now.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's quite a nutrition rate.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
The stories written in places like Politico and Axios aw
about how Harris never does the reading, Harris never knows
what's going on on. Harris blames her staff and is
nasty and is unprepared and isn't very bright. We're supposed
to forget about all that, right, They were doing that
because there was talking about maybe Gretchen Whitmer would be better,
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maybe Karen Bass would be better. Maybe you know, you
go down, there's all these different possible vps. Maybe you
know they were gonna have Harris appointed to be like
a federal judge somewhere or something.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
This was the talk, or it's a Supreme quartal. I
don't think that would work. This was the talk in
very recent memory.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, the stories were coming out about Harris, even in
Democrat media that were trashing or were this year and
now Paul mcgullan's like, Oh, she's amazing, She's so great.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
These people are utterly ruthless, have no scruples, no principles.
They will say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I understand confusion is actually a weapon of politics
for them because they can say anything. They have to
defend nothing because they'll change what is true in their
minds today, tomorrow and yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
How are you supposed to run a campaign against that?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Kamala Harris stands for nothing and somehow everything at the
same time. And there's you know, you're you're fighting show,
you know, shadows and dust. Here you're grabbing it at
the air. You're you right, You're you're wrestling with water.
It's formless. How do you do this? Well, this is
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the game they're playing, so we have to figure it out.
Here's a here's a really, I mean this is particularly
amusing to me. Uh, Susan Rice, Okay, Susan Rice, as
you know, top advisor for Obama. She's not gonna and
all the Obama team are now a lot of the
Obama team are coming forward to be team Kamala, right,
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and and some of them weren't Team Biden.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Interesting is it? But they're coming forward to be team Kamala.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Susan Rice wants you to know, and I need you
to hear this, that Kamala was an essential part of
the Biden administration's policies.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
This is seventeen Uh, listen to this one.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
She will, as she.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Has said, outlined aspects of her economic policy later this week.
But I think it's very important to remember that this
has been the Biden Harris agenda. Kamala Harris has been
an integral architect and executor of the policies of the
Biden Harris administration. This notion that she somehow doesn't deserve
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credit for, and isn't part of, and wasn't an integral
architect of the Biden Harris administration agenda is not only false,
it's frankly somewhat bizarre and offensive.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's offensive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, how was she execut an executor of policy here?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
How was she an integral architect?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
A week ago they were telling us, Okay again, I know, guys,
it's we're in the funhouse, mirror world of democrats desperately
trying to cling to power, lie to everybody, smoke screens everywhere.
As soon as Harris was the chosen and I have
to keep reminding everybody of this too. You're noticing that
the defense of democracy argument from Democrats. You're not hearing
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a lot about that these days, are you. You're not
being bombarded with that talking point, maybe because Democrats defense
of democracy apparently means nullifying a primary election, installing a
presidential nominee with zero votes, then working at breakneck speed
to flood the internet with lies about that person while
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the media helps her hide from public scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Defense of democracy. Maybe we should all mask up again.
That'll help with democracy, says doctor Fouch.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, it's it's stunning, isn't it. Anything goes, whatever works.
They don't even hide it from you. They don't even
try to hide it on you. Michael McFall, this guy
was a US ambassador to Russia. He's a Russia Trump
derangement lunatic.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And what is he?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Probably at some think tank now right? Oh, no, he's
at Stanford here he is. He says the following about
Kamala Harris. The paramount objective for Kamala Harris this was
on X is to win this election. If a press
conference helps her win, she should do it. If not,
she shouldn't do it. It's just that simple. She has no
(25:29):
moral obligation to talk to the press. Tone it down, folks.
This is a so called left wing intellectual at Stanford
and a former US ambassador who's telling everybody, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Lie, if Harris has to lie.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
By the omission of her public presence, if the media
has to be a party to this, great whatever they
have to do is what they should do. Anything goes now,
I come back to what Susan Rice said. Sorry I
digressed there for a second. I got a lot of
thoughts going on here. They told us as soon as
Harris was the just the chosen by the Democrat elites,
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no votes, no primary. Used to be that Harris was
a laugh line. Nobody liked her in the Democrat Party.
She was a joke.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
She got like two percent of the vote and had.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
To drop out in twenty twenty. Oh now she's a savior.
You know, Say what you will about Obama. The guy won,
the guy one and one and one and one guy
never lost. Now I'm not saying that that means I'm
an Obama fan, obviously, but I'm just saying the Democrats,
you know, they launched him into the stratosphere all the way.
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Kamala Harris has been rejected by the Democrat electorate, resoundingly rejected,
and now they're pretending that she's great.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay, Now on the policy thing.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Susan Rice, one of the most prominent members of the
Obama administration, a top Obama advisor, she has said that
Kamala Harris is an architect of Biden policies. Now that's
a sound bit, it sounds good. Which one which policies?
As soon as they picked Kamala Harris, what do we
all start to think about? What was she most associated
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with as an actual real policy?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
The border? The borders are.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Biden gave her this as part of her vice presidential portfolio,
acting with his stamp of approval, you know, his you know,
it's sort of like, you know, his mandate deal with
the border, and it was such a disaster and the
border has been so bad under the Biden Harris tenure
that the media immediately started to lie and gaslight you
(27:43):
by saying she was never the borders are. There's no
such thing as the borders are. That's a made up thing. Axeos,
the left wing news website, scrubbed its own previous descriptions
of her as borders are.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
This is Soviet stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
This is like when they would remove people from certain
you know, bureaus in the Soviet Union and they would
use a razor to remove their name from the paper records.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You're like, well there's a hole there now, yeah, but
the name's not there.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Absolute brainwashing of the American people to get a manifestly unqualified, unprincipled,
incapable nominee made president of the United States. And I
have to take this seriously because they made a Dementia patient. Clearly,
as they now admit the president of that States for
(28:37):
four years, he is still the president. Captain Dementia is
still the commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
How is that even possible?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But this is one of the again challenges that we
have to deal with. When you have no integrity to protect,
you can do and say any thing. And that's where
the media, that's where the Democrats are, That's where the
Harris Wall's campaign is. There's nothing that they stand for
(29:11):
other than power. There's nothing that they believe in other
than they should be in charge and the people around them.
They should have power over you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Whatever they have to say, whatever lies they have to tell,
it's all and it is it is incumbent upon us
to meet this with the ferocious response of truth in
every venue, in every way we possibly can, because these
(29:45):
are unseerious people who will do serious.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Damage to the country.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you'll notice that none of them even present themselves
for exchange of ideas on the other side, what answer
can they possibly give? I mean, you know, I know,
I joke a I'm with you about how I'm like
morning Joe's biggest fan. I do think it's important to
watch because I see I watched the brainwashing process for
that audience in real time. I understand what's going on.
(30:10):
But their host was saying that Joe Biden a few
months ago was the sharpest he's ever been. How can
a person who says that on television and puts their
whatever integrity they're supposed to have on the line with
such a statement be taken seriously?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Again, I mean, he was obviously a dementia patient, as
they now have had to admit, So why should we
listen to anything that said about Well? But this also
applies to the New York Times. They were all complicit
in the lie. And now you go with well, Hold
on a second, it's not even new to the Biden administration.
They were complicit in huge lies about Russia collusion and
(30:44):
that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election. They've never they've
never addressed their part in that. In fact, they've given
themselves pulletzers. I mean they've they've gone the opposite direction.
So it's uh, it's a it's a it's a wild
thing to watch this this play out because the counter
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arguments that I'm arming you with today will have to
be changed next week because they will change their premise.
They will change their arguments entirely. Oh, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Wasn't the borders are?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh now they're running ads saying that she was great
on the border and so important and so integral to
the Obama I'm sorry the Biden Administration's successes, right, but
they just said that she Now she is. You know,
next week it's going to be, oh, well, she was,
you know she she is in favor of of reparations
the week after that or coming up in the debate,
(31:42):
Oh no, she's not in favorite reparations. How do you
win an argument with somebody who stands for nothing. We're
going to find out, that's what we're dealing with with Kamala.
That's what we're dealing with with these democrats. Uh, and
it is going to be a challenge, you know. I
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Speaker 1 (33:29):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bok. Come up.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm gonna talk about the immigration situation, starting off with
and I say immigration. You know what I'm talking legal stuff,
wide open border. What a message is New York City
five billion dollars. You know, my family still lives in
New York so I get the I get the real
time updates, texts and calls from my family members, and
you know they might You know, my parents were born
(33:53):
in New York City. Three of my four grandparents were
born in New York City. And I think on one
side of the family, we can trace the family back
to New York City to Brooklyn, to like the eighteen eighties,
I think, or seventies or something. I mean, like way back.
We've been there a long time and I'm obviously gone,
(34:14):
but I still have, always will have such a soft
spot for New York and I hate that it's.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Being just run into the ground.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And the migrant crisis is just making so many things worse,
and there's heinous crimes that are happening that expose the
risks the population is under that citizens and people legally
in the country are under from this flow. So we'll
talk about it. Interesting call here, We've got Peter in
San Antonio. Peter, you are a black registered Democrat and
(34:44):
you are voting for Trump.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yes, I am claim, But first of all, big fan
of the show.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I am a registered Democrat. I couldn't get out of
your favorite city in town, Portland, Oregon born and raised.
I'm a huge Oregon Decks fan.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
We're making a leap to the big ten.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I know you love college football and I'm a black
guy and I'm learning for Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Why give us the why?
Speaker 7 (35:14):
Okay, here's why. I have to come from a perspective
like what it's going to improve my life.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Finding a job. I'm in a tech sector. That's the economy.
I live in Texas. That's about the border. And then
to see the crime you said it best economy, crime,
border or EBC. It's all about that. I have to
not like the personality of mister Trump, but his policies.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Work all right.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Hey, Peter, welcome to the party, my friend, or at
least welcome to Welcome to the the the the side
of truth, righteousness and justice in this election. Thank you
so much for Colin. Thank you for listening, by the way,
appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Look, I don't see how unless someone is just truly
obsessed with abortion as the most important public policy thing.
And I mean, you know, abortion all nine months of
a pregnancy, right, unless somebody is an abortion radical, I
cannot see how. If you look at the nuts and
bolts of what a Trump presidency would be versus a
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Harris presidency, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's just going to be better for the country and
better for you. That's the funny thing.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I want Trump to win this election knowing that all
of the lunatic Kamala supporters out there will also benefit
from Trump being president. And I'm okay With that, you know,
I want what's best for the whole country. I want
a better economy, I want a more secure border. I
want a more sane foreign policy. I want better trade policy.
(36:49):
You get all of that with Trump. With Kamala, you
get a future unburdened by what has been
Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and I'm happy to say that
increasingly I find myself a voice of comfort common reason
for so many of my conservative friends out there. Probably
(00:22):
not gonna tell anybody names, not going to name the name.
I'm getting people texting me saying, why are you so confident?
How can you be so confident that Trump will win?
And I don't know, just go with my gut. I
feel it, feel it in my bones, I feel it
in my toes, I feel it in my soul.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I believe in Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I believe in the movement, and I know that right
now they're trying so hard to make everybody out there
doubt that Donald Trump can win, and I will not
fall into that trap. We will look at these numbers,
We will look at the data as it stands now,
but also put it in the proper context, look at
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the timeline, look at the momentum and what lies ahead.
This is a show where we take a deep breath
and make sure that we are firmly rooted in reality.
We'll also discuss later on what is the Harris Walls
foreign policy. My friend Bridge called the brilliant guy and
just random side note, I think when Bridge was at
(01:28):
Yale Law School and working in DC for the first time,
we used to drink together twenty years ago in DC
when I was a young CIA officer. So here we
are decades later and we get to hang out on
the radio and talk to a few million of our
closest friends.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's amazing, what a small world it is.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We've also got unions. Are they union membership, not the leadership,
the membership? Are they starting to go for Donald Trump?
Cover at New York Post? Five billion dollars spent on
migrants in New York City?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Five billions. That's where we are now.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So you have trouble looking at your gas and food
and rent payments and not having your eyeballs fall out
of your head.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Meanwhile, the taxes, and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
This is especially for our wo R listeners and NYC,
the taxes you are paying to New York and in
the New York City Metro are being funneled to make
sure that illegals are living in four star hotels with
culturally sensitive meals prepared for them, debit cards handed to
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them in some cases with money on it, and all
the rest of it, and horrible crimes being committed by
some of these migrants. I meant to get to the
story yesterday. I'll get to it today. What happened down
in Coney Island. I mean, I think should be a
death penalty offense. Of course that's not going to happen
in New York. But the violent rape of a woman
(03:04):
by two illegals, one of whom had already committed a
violent sexual assault somehow not kicked out of the country.
You know, I want to dive into that story. And
also another multiple time offender, this one I believe in
the Boston area raped a child, a girl, young girl,
the fourteen years old. I think it was a fifteen
(03:24):
years old and should have been deported, wasn't deported. And
you will not believe what the Boston police have done
with this guy, despite ice, immigrations and customs enforcements saying hey,
can you hold on to the.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Serial sexual predator.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We would like to get rid of him from this
country and send him back because he's an illegal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
What do you think Boston PD did? We're going to
get into all that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I will never forget our focus here on immigration, illegal
immigration as alongside the debt and the just leviath in
federal government.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We have the biggest.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Long term challenge that the country faces to stay as
it is so ed, to stay a free republic based
on a constitution and with a shared culture, a shared history.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And yes, a shared language.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
These are all important, critical things, actually critical building blocks
for our society. And if they kick at the load
bearing walls of our civilization as they are doing without
us pushing back.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We all know what will happen. But I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Get into this now because I'm happy to calm those
who are worried and to tell them that it's gonna
be okay. Trump's gonna win. And if Trump doesn't win,
it's you know, we'll figure that out too. But I mean,
it's gonna be okay. Trump's gonna win this thing, all right.
(04:57):
I have I have faith that he's gonna win. He's
gonna win solidly.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'll tell you this. It marked this prediction down. I
think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than he
beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. There you go, who
would have seen that coming, right? Remember what we felt
like in twenty sixteen. I think he will beat Kamala
Harris in the electoral College by a wider margin than
he beat Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think that will actually happen this time.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You can call me crazy, you can call me crazy,
but I think that that's possible. Maybe that's too bold
of a prediction, but I do think he's gonna win.
Maybe I'm walking back my prediction right now as I'm
thinking about the numbers in my head, but I do
think he's gonna win. I believe he's gonna win, and
I think it is rooted in the data. Let's get
into this, Okay. First of all, CNN, Harry Engine. Look,
(05:47):
CNN is doing everything they can to make sure that
the Harris campaign feels and sounds like it has momentum. Remember,
she's not even really campaigning. The media is campaign for her.
The media's campaigning for her. Now, CNN's data guy said this,
(06:10):
This was yesterday, and I'm gonna get to what he's
said more recently about this. This is yesterday on CNN
News Central, looking at this New York Times Siena poll.
But I'm here to tell you don't worry about this poll,
all right. I don't want to be clear. I don't
look at the.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Polls every day. Oh, I'm scared. What are we gonna do?
It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Here is this guy, Harry Enton talking about Kamala Harris
and how Democrats shouldn't be over confident.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
This is twenty three.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Play it in those states dimensioned, those great Lake battleground states,
Trump was underestimated by nine points on average at this
point in twenty sixteen. How about twenty twenty. It wasn't
a one off look at this he was underestimated by.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Five points on average.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And of course, Kamala Harris's advantage in those New York
Times Santa College poles were four points in each of
these key battleground states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. The bottom line
is this, if you have any idea, if you're a
Kamala Harris fan and you want to rip open the
champagne bottle, pop.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That quirk, do not do it. Donald Trump is very
much in this race. If we have a polling shift
like we've seen.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
In prior years from now until the final result, donald
Trump would actually win. I'm not saying that's going to happen,
but I am saying that he is very much in
this ballgame. Based upon where he is right now and
compare that to where he was in prior years.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's in a better spot than he's been in in
prior years. I will say, I retract my He'll beat
her by more than Hillary twenty sixteen. As I'm looking
at the electoral map, I had forgotten I was going
off the cuff there. I had forgotten that Trump ran
the table across the Midwest in twenty sixteen. It was
remarkable when you look back at it this time around.
(07:47):
I mean, I'm trying to think of what he could
win this time that he didn't win in twenty sixteen.
The only thing that really looks like it could have
would be Virginia. But I think Kama's going to win Virginia.
In fact, God, Kamala maybe in some ways a better
candidate than Biden was for the state of Virginia. So
scratch that one from the record. But I do think
(08:07):
that he's going to win. Dude, Maybe he will replicate
the twenty sixteen electoral map. That would be that would
be a best case scenario. If he can win Pennsylvania,
he can win. Oh no, I'm sorry, Nevada. There we go, Nevada.
I'm looking at the twenty sixteen map right now, he'll
he could pick up Nevada, which he didn't pick up
(08:29):
in twenty sixteen, So that would be the one that
would be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Am I missing anything that else is really on the table?
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
See, I knew there was something, but yeah, I think
that he'll get close to what he did before. I
think the map may look very similar to did in
twenty sixteen. That would be amazing, but I think it's
very possible. I think they're trying to tell you Harris
is in a much stronger position than she is because
they have to shape perception right away. And I think
that the the CNN numbers guru there when he's telling
(09:00):
telling you that they've underestimated Trump's strength in the Midwest
in the past, I think that they're doing that again.
That's very likely. And here's why. Comes down to the
white working class voter. And I cannot foresee a situation
where Trump, rather where Harris does better with those Midwestern
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white working class.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Voters than Joe Biden did.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So now we're focusing back on twenty twenty instead of
twenty sixteen. Our friend Ryan Gerdusky put this one out.
For example, in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, Trump won
whites without a college degree by thirty six points and
thirty two points. So there, and Ryan says, quote, there's
(09:46):
no way she's sliced his lead with those voters in half.
It just didn't happen. I've talked to Ryan about this.
I totally agree. I do not believe that there's been
some huge short For this New York Times Siena poll
to be accurate, there would have.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
To be a huge surge.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Of white working class support for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I do not. I just don't buy it. I don't
buy it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But they know people like me have been saying, why
is Trump going to win white working class voters? So
this is the way that the numbers can come out
and look really strong for Harris. I think that this
is another thing from CNN. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin voters. This
is a percentage of the electorate, Okay, black or Hispanic
(10:35):
in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. What do you think the percentage
of black and Hispanic voters in those states is overall.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
College educated white voters twenty seven percent in those states
of the electorate non college educated white voters in those states,
fifty percent of the electorate. That half of the electorate
determines this election, and a few percentage points in that
(11:09):
half of the electorate in those swing states is going
to be determinative. I hope the Trump team is listening.
I hope they're on the ball on point on this one.
I hope they're ready to go, because the numbers are
very clear here. You know, I'm going to tell you
this Trump team in twenty twenty really focused on trying
(11:29):
to turn out a little more in the black vote,
a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
In the Hispanic vote.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Wasn't a path to victory, wasn't a path of victory,
and didn't work, not a not any meaningful way. Obviously,
Biden's been president for four years. So this time around,
the focus on white working class voters and voter turnout
among that group is.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The pathway to victory.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So for those of you listening in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
who are truckers, who are plumbers, who are contractors, who
are and assuming you're falling into that non college educated,
which some of you do, some of you don't, but
the trades, those who make a living with their hands, right,
not white collar office workers. You get to determine whether
(12:13):
Kamala Harris is the president or Donald Trump is the president.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Really, that's what this comes down to.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So it's a lot of power in your hands and
your friends and your colleagues and your family.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Members in those states. That is where it really matters.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right now, they're trying to claim Kamala Harris has made
a huge has made huge inroads with those voters. Let's
return to that in a moment. I'm open to they
just the poll isn't very good as an argument, but
I also feel like that's a little too convenient, isn't it.
They're suddenly running these really really important numbers that are
(12:48):
skewing toward Harris in this way. I'm just I was
thinking about twenty sixteen. I'm getting a twenty sixteen tingle here.
And I understand, up to this point, we've said the polls,
the polls, the polls. Well, yeah, but that's because both sides.
It was understandable that both sides would see the polls
as accurate because they wanted Biden to be gone and
it was so obvious that they couldn't. You can shade things,
(13:11):
four percent, three percent, you know, maybe maybe five percent.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Biden was falling off a cliff. I mean, Biden was
going to lose New Jersey. So yeah, there's no there's
no way that you can cover that up in polling data.
But right now are they playing around with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, they're playing They're changing everything about Harris's record, They're
hiding her from the public. They're doing everything they can
to make sure that she's the president, no matter what
kind of see dissembling lies that they have to tell.
So will they manipulate the numbers the data, Yeah, I'm
sure they will. Let's get into this. I want to
(13:52):
hear your thoughts on this as well. And also we're
going to talk about Tim Walls and what he did
during the BLM riots, shooting at people with paintball guns
to get them to go inside when they were just
standing outside of their own homes, on their own property.
This guy's a totalitarian wacko. Tim Walls is a totalitarian wacko.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
We'll get back to that.
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
All right, welcome back in. So we're talking about how Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Wins maybe the theme of today's show, how Trump wins
white working class voters Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Will Trump run the table on those states and also.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Throw Nevada in the mix, in which case he would
actually get more than he did in twenty sixteen, and
that would be amazing. And I think I do think
it's possible. I think it's possible. Maybe that's overly optimistic,
but I don't know. I just got a feeling about
this one. And I don't usually just run with it
like that, but I got a feeling about this one.
I feel very confident, a quiet, cool confidence about Trump,
(16:15):
and it's based in the numbers. Now, same CNN guy
Harry Enton is out there telling everybody that Kamala is
surging with white working class voters. I want to talk
to you about this play.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Nine white working class voters, white voters without a college street.
That is Donald Trump's core group. That was the reason
why he was able to break down that giant blue
wall Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, in the Great Lakes. And look
at their support now versus where we were a few
months ago when the matchup was between Donald Trump and
Joe Biden. Look, Donald Trump still leads, but look at
(16:49):
that margin. It has shrunk significantly. It was twenty five
points back in May. It is now fourteen points now
here in August nearly been sliced by half. Those numbers
that Harris is putting up amongst that group right now
are actually slightly better than Joe Biden did four years
ago amongst those voters in those key states. Those are
the types of numbers that Kamala Harris needs to put
up in order to win.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
She's not going to put up those numbers, Hey, mark
my ware, that's not going to happen. You're not going
to have Trump win whites without a college degree by
thirty six points in twenty sixteen and thirty two points
in twenty twenty, and then all of a sudden he you.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Know he wins them by ten points.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now because Kamala Harris is running no chance or twelve
points or whatever, they're saying, no chance, it's not going
to happen. So I'm not buying it. And because I'm
not buying it, still very confident. But we'll get into
more of why why do I think that Trump is
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The problem is he's up against a younger, more dynamic
woman who has revitalized the Democratic Party. He does not
know what to do, so he's falling back on the
same kind of insults and denigration and decision and I
don't think it's working. I don't think it's gonna work,
and the Democrats need to be very careful en not
to fall into that trap. But I just don't see that.
It's why he's so desperate. Honestly, I feel bad for
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the woman, Suzy Wilds, who's running this campaign. I don't
know her, but she seems like a total pro and
I can tell when she's in charge. They actually seem
to be doing well, and they talk about issues like
Jennings is trying to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Immigration, okay, but when Trump is in charge.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It's just this nutty at best and racist at worst
of pure Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm gonna tell you something that was Paul mgala, And
the more he is telling us how great Kamala Harris
is and how confident he's in her strategy, the better
I feel.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
About Trump's chances. That's why I played that for you.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know there's that guy Kramer was like, hey, buy
and sell this stock, and he's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Got the hungh hunk and all the different you know,
noises and stuff, very famous, the NBC guy.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And people have talked about.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The reverse Kramer fund, where you do whatever he says
to buy, you sell, or whatever he says to sell
you buy. And I don't know how that's really done
over time, but it's kind of an ongoing joke among
those who are placing bets in the markets. I feel
that way about Paul mcgalla and a lot of these
old Clinton era political political hacks, especially when they come
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forward to tell you how great Kamala Harris is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Were they saying Kamala Harris was great six months ago.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh, she's dynamic and revitalized the They were trying to
find an excuse to boot her off the Democrat ticket
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Do you remember this, I remember it. All these little murmurs.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Harris's roughly fifty staff members, five have lasted from the
beginning of her time as VP to now.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's quite a nutrition rate.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
The stories written in places like Politico and Axios aw
about how Harris never does the reading, Harris never knows
what's going on on. Harris blames her staff and is
nasty and is unprepared and isn't very bright. We're supposed
to forget about all that, right, They were doing that
because there was talking about maybe Gretchen Whitmer would be better,
(21:14):
maybe Karen Bass would be better. Maybe you know, you
go down, there's all these different possible vps. Maybe you
know they were gonna have Harris appointed to be like
a federal judge somewhere or something.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
This was the talk, or it's a Supreme quartal. I
don't think that would work. This was the talk in
very recent memory.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, the stories were coming out about Harris, even in
Democrat media that were trashing or were this year and
now Paul mcgullan's like, Oh, she's amazing, She's so great.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
These people are utterly ruthless, have no scruples, no principles.
They will say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I understand confusion is actually a weapon of politics
for them because they can say anything. They have to
defend nothing because they'll change what is true in their
minds today, tomorrow and yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
How are you supposed to run a campaign against that?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Kamala Harris stands for nothing and somehow everything at the
same time. And there's you know, you're you're fighting show,
you know, shadows and dust. Here you're grabbing it at
the air. You're you right, You're you're wrestling with water.
It's formless. How do you do this? Well, this is
(22:30):
the game they're playing, so we have to figure it out.
Here's a here's a really, I mean this is particularly
amusing to me. Uh, Susan Rice, Okay, Susan Rice, as
you know, top advisor for Obama. She's not gonna and
all the Obama team are now a lot of the
Obama team are coming forward to be team Kamala, right,
(22:50):
and and some of them weren't Team Biden.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Interesting is it? But they're coming forward to be team Kamala.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Susan Rice wants you to know, and I need you
to hear this, that Kamala was an essential part of
the Biden administration's policies.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
This is seventeen Uh, listen to this one.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
She will, as she.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Has said, outlined aspects of her economic policy later this week.
But I think it's very important to remember that this
has been the Biden Harris agenda. Kamala Harris has been
an integral architect and executor of the policies of the
Biden Harris administration. This notion that she somehow doesn't deserve
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credit for, and isn't part of, and wasn't an integral
architect of the Biden Harris administration agenda is not only false,
it's frankly somewhat bizarre and offensive.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's offensive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, how was she execut an executor of policy here?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
How was she an integral architect?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
A week ago they were telling us, Okay again, I know, guys,
it's we're in the funhouse, mirror world of democrats desperately
trying to cling to power, lie to everybody, smoke screens everywhere.
As soon as Harris was the chosen and I have
to keep reminding everybody of this too. You're noticing that
the defense of democracy argument from Democrats. You're not hearing
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a lot about that these days, are you. You're not
being bombarded with that talking point, maybe because Democrats defense
of democracy apparently means nullifying a primary election, installing a
presidential nominee with zero votes, then working at breakneck speed
to flood the internet with lies about that person while
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the media helps her hide from public scrutiny.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Defense of democracy. Maybe we should all mask up again.
That'll help with democracy, says doctor Fouch.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, it's it's stunning, isn't it. Anything goes, whatever works.
They don't even hide it from you. They don't even
try to hide it on you. Michael McFall, this guy
was a US ambassador to Russia. He's a Russia Trump
derangement lunatic.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And what is he?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Probably at some think tank now right? Oh, no, he's
at Stanford here he is. He says the following about
Kamala Harris. The paramount objective for Kamala Harris this was
on X is to win this election. If a press
conference helps her win, she should do it. If not,
she shouldn't do it. It's just that simple. She has no
(25:29):
moral obligation to talk to the press. Tone it down, folks.
This is a so called left wing intellectual at Stanford
and a former US ambassador who's telling everybody, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Lie, if Harris has to lie.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
By the omission of her public presence, if the media
has to be a party to this, great whatever they
have to do is what they should do. Anything goes now,
I come back to what Susan Rice said. Sorry I
digressed there for a second. I got a lot of
thoughts going on here. They told us as soon as
Harris was the just the chosen by the Democrat elites,
(26:08):
no votes, no primary. Used to be that Harris was
a laugh line. Nobody liked her in the Democrat Party.
She was a joke.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
She got like two percent of the vote and had.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
To drop out in twenty twenty. Oh now she's a savior.
You know, Say what you will about Obama. The guy won,
the guy one and one and one and one guy
never lost. Now I'm not saying that that means I'm
an Obama fan, obviously, but I'm just saying the Democrats,
you know, they launched him into the stratosphere all the way.
(26:41):
Kamala Harris has been rejected by the Democrat electorate, resoundingly rejected,
and now they're pretending that she's great.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay, Now on the policy thing.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Susan Rice, one of the most prominent members of the
Obama administration, a top Obama advisor, she has said that
Kamala Harris is an architect of Biden policies. Now that's
a sound bit, it sounds good. Which one which policies?
As soon as they picked Kamala Harris, what do we
all start to think about? What was she most associated
(27:13):
with as an actual real policy?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
The border? The borders are.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Biden gave her this as part of her vice presidential portfolio,
acting with his stamp of approval, you know, his you know,
it's sort of like, you know, his mandate deal with
the border, and it was such a disaster and the
border has been so bad under the Biden Harris tenure
that the media immediately started to lie and gaslight you
(27:43):
by saying she was never the borders are. There's no
such thing as the borders are. That's a made up thing. Axeos,
the left wing news website, scrubbed its own previous descriptions
of her as borders are.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
This is Soviet stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
This is like when they would remove people from certain
you know, bureaus in the Soviet Union and they would
use a razor to remove their name from the paper records.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You're like, well there's a hole there now, yeah, but
the name's not there.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Absolute brainwashing of the American people to get a manifestly unqualified, unprincipled,
incapable nominee made president of the United States. And I
have to take this seriously because they made a Dementia patient. Clearly,
as they now admit the president of that States for
(28:37):
four years, he is still the president. Captain Dementia is
still the commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
How is that even possible?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But this is one of the again challenges that we
have to deal with. When you have no integrity to protect,
you can do and say any thing. And that's where
the media, that's where the Democrats are, That's where the
Harris Wall's campaign is. There's nothing that they stand for
(29:11):
other than power. There's nothing that they believe in other
than they should be in charge and the people around them.
They should have power over you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Whatever they have to say, whatever lies they have to tell,
it's all and it is it is incumbent upon us
to meet this with the ferocious response of truth in
every venue, in every way we possibly can, because these
(29:45):
are unseerious people who will do serious.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Damage to the country.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you'll notice that none of them even present themselves
for exchange of ideas on the other side, what answer
can they possibly give? I mean, you know, I know,
I joke a I'm with you about how I'm like
morning Joe's biggest fan. I do think it's important to
watch because I see I watched the brainwashing process for
that audience in real time. I understand what's going on.
(30:10):
But their host was saying that Joe Biden a few
months ago was the sharpest he's ever been. How can
a person who says that on television and puts their
whatever integrity they're supposed to have on the line with
such a statement be taken seriously?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Again, I mean, he was obviously a dementia patient, as
they now have had to admit, So why should we
listen to anything that said about Well? But this also
applies to the New York Times. They were all complicit
in the lie. And now you go with well, Hold
on a second, it's not even new to the Biden administration.
They were complicit in huge lies about Russia collusion and
(30:44):
that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election. They've never they've
never addressed their part in that. In fact, they've given
themselves pulletzers. I mean they've they've gone the opposite direction.
So it's uh, it's a it's a it's a wild
thing to watch this this play out because the counter
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arguments that I'm arming you with today will have to
be changed next week because they will change their premise.
They will change their arguments entirely. Oh, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Wasn't the borders are?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh now they're running ads saying that she was great
on the border and so important and so integral to
the Obama I'm sorry the Biden Administration's successes, right, but
they just said that she Now she is. You know,
next week it's going to be, oh, well, she was,
you know she she is in favor of of reparations
the week after that or coming up in the debate,
(31:42):
Oh no, she's not in favorite reparations. How do you
win an argument with somebody who stands for nothing. We're
going to find out, that's what we're dealing with with Kamala.
That's what we're dealing with with these democrats. Uh, and
it is going to be a challenge, you know. I
want to switch our focus on the least for a second.
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Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm gonna talk about the immigration situation, starting off with
and I say immigration. You know what I'm talking legal stuff,
wide open border. What a message is New York City
five billion dollars. You know, my family still lives in
New York so I get the I get the real
time updates, texts and calls from my family members, and
you know they might You know, my parents were born
(33:53):
in New York City. Three of my four grandparents were
born in New York City. And I think on one
side of the family, we can trace the family back
to New York City to Brooklyn, to like the eighteen eighties,
I think, or seventies or something. I mean, like way back.
We've been there a long time and I'm obviously gone,
(34:14):
but I still have, always will have such a soft
spot for New York and I hate that it's.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Being just run into the ground.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And the migrant crisis is just making so many things worse,
and there's heinous crimes that are happening that expose the
risks the population is under that citizens and people legally
in the country are under from this flow. So we'll
talk about it. Interesting call here, We've got Peter in
San Antonio. Peter, you are a black registered Democrat and
(34:44):
you are voting for Trump.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
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of the show.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I am a registered Democrat. I couldn't get out of
your favorite city in town, Portland, Oregon born and raised.
I'm a huge Oregon Decks fan.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
We're making a leap to the big ten.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I know you love college football and I'm a black
guy and I'm learning for Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Why give us the why?
Speaker 7 (35:14):
Okay, here's why. I have to come from a perspective
like what it's going to improve my life.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Finding a job. I'm in a tech sector. That's the economy.
I live in Texas. That's about the border. And then
to see the crime you said it best economy, crime,
border or EBC. It's all about that. I have to
not like the personality of mister Trump, but his policies.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Work all right.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Hey, Peter, welcome to the party, my friend, or at
least welcome to Welcome to the the the the side
of truth, righteousness and justice in this election. Thank you
so much for Colin. Thank you for listening, by the way,
appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Look, I don't see how unless someone is just truly
obsessed with abortion as the most important public policy thing.
And I mean, you know, abortion all nine months of
a pregnancy, right, unless somebody is an abortion radical, I
cannot see how. If you look at the nuts and
bolts of what a Trump presidency would be versus a
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Harris presidency, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's just going to be better for the country and
better for you. That's the funny thing.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I want Trump to win this election knowing that all
of the lunatic Kamala supporters out there will also benefit
from Trump being president. And I'm okay With that, you know,
I want what's best for the whole country. I want
a better economy, I want a more secure border. I
want a more sane foreign policy. I want better trade policy.
(36:49):
You get all of that with Trump. With Kamala, you
get a future unburdened by what has been
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