November 22, 2024 • 37 mins
Casey concedes PA U.S. Senate race to McCormick. Trump nominates Pam Bondi for AG. Pete Hegseth under fire. Trump rules out Mike Rogers for FBI. California still counting votes in House races. Trump will win popular vote by several million, increased his total in all 50 states. Who's the Dem frontrunner for '28? NBC's Brian Williams on Democrat elitism.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show got
the day right, good start for the show. I had
to I've been all over the place. I just landed
back from La Buck. Appreciate him having the show yesterday.
As boy George Pickles got into a big fight in
the snow. It was awesome fun game last night. Did
you did you give out prize picks picks?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I did, and I said always bet on Pickles never
lets us down.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I don't know how Pickles did overall, I do know
that legitimately in the snow, he ended the game in
a huge fight with and then blame the loss on
the snow, which is an interesting move, but.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We'll dive into that. Have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
As many of you, I am sure, are set to
begin holiday travel or maybe you already have. I know
my wife and at least one of my sons are
going to be on the road during the course of
today's show. I know there's a lot of different moving
parts for many of you across the country, and we're
gonna have some fun here is on the Friday edition
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of the program. But big picture as we sit here,
congratulations to Dave McCormick, We have said it on the
show for some time that he was going to be
the winner of.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That Pennsylvania Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Finally, Bob Casey yesterday afternoon evening conceded. So this basically
ends all of the statewide races, whether it's governor, whether
it's Senate, certainly, whether it's who won the presidency, and
so Republicans will have fifty three seats in the Senate.
Bob Casey, after eighteen years loses. Congratulations Senator Dave McCormick
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from Pennsylvania, and congratulations to all of you Pennsylvanians, because
not only did you flip a Senate seat, but you
also put Donald Trump back in the White House. This
is important, Buck, because we have a lot of different
moving parts as it pertains to the cabinet, many decisions
still to be made. Yesterday you had the decision by
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Matt Gates to drop out. I'm sure you talk quite
a lot about that. Pam Bondi has now been nominated
former Florida Attorney General as the attorney general nominee going forward.
Very well connected with Susie Wiles. But there are a
lot of Floridians. You are a Floridian now that are
a part of a Trump two point zero regime. A
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lot of people being elevated. That makes some sense because
Susie Wilds did a great job as campaign manager. She
knows everyone in Florida very well. We were going to
talk with Nancy Mace about a big bathroom issue. She
had to cancel. It's quite a chaotic for her. She's
gonna be on with us maybe next week. But Pete
Hegseth is now the focal point. Now that Matt Gates
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is out, they are turning everything they have on Pete
heg Seth, who is the nominee for the Defense secretary.
And so this is the newest battleground. Buck, You've known
Pete Hegseth for a long time. Do you agree with
me that basically? Now as he goes around, I think
he's gonna get confirmed. But he is the new man,
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next man up, so to speak. On the target list.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh absolutely, And I think that for whatever the strategy
was to putting Gates forward, it has with this step
down from the nomination encouraged the Democrats. There's a blood
in the water so to speak, now around Trump's nominees. Now,
maybe that works against them, but right now I think
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it has encouraged them and they think that they can
make a statement now by taking down other nominees. And yes,
our friend Pete Hexseat is next in their metaphorical crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So the target so far, and again I'm trying to
kind of focus on it while both of us know
Pete well the target right now, and correct me if
I'm wrong on this. Buck seems to be a twenty
seventeen incident at a Monterey Republican speaking dinner where a
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woman alleged that they had a relationship and that he
had behaved inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
They signed an NDA and she alleged sexual assault. He
says it was consensual. That's the and the information you
can read. There's an extensive story about this. There's some
let's just say this. I have to keep coming back
to this Clay. If there were sufficient evidence, why no charge? Correct?
(04:39):
They investigated it and determined there was no criminality. It's
one thing to say someone's been charged and you still
believe they have a presumption of innocence. What is the
presumption of niscence supposed to be when there's been no charge? Even?
Do you know what I mean? Percent I understand it's
only court of public opinion. But there's inherently this challenge
that is left for people of how can you defend
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yourself when there's no process through which to defend yourself.
There are some very Alex Bearnson picked up on this
on X. There are some reasons to look it was
an It was a highly unfortunate situation, you know, even
if it wasn't a crime. Just putting that out there
not a thing that should have gone down. I'm not
trying to cast judgment or expursions. It's just not point being.
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It does not seem to have the elements of a
crime based on what I was able to read. I
know Pete, I like Pete. I'm not I'm not unbiased
in this process. But this is what they're doing now.
They're they're getting all these accusations, and when they've when
they've done things like Havanaugh and then the thirty year
old allegation against Trump, what are we supposed to do?
We know they've I know they've lied about other people,
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meaning the media. Yes, I know the media has lied
about other Republicans. So I'm just going to take every
allegation they make at face value. Of course, not I
want process, I want proof.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I actually think some of these details matter, and I'm
you know, specifically, she he was drunk. There is video
of them walking together to his hotel room, and she
went into his hotel room. Okay, for anyone out there,
male or female, if you are drinking at a bar
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and you both voluntarily go into a hotel room, which
there is video of that occurring, that is the open
public evidence that we have. I'm not saying that going
into a hotel room guarantees that everything is consensual inside
the hotel room. I'm saying for most men and women,
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most men and women out there, I think if you
are drinking at a bar and you go into a
hotel room with someone else, and it's clear that it
was voluntary and that you were making a choice to
go into that hotel room, I think it's hard to say, hey,
then all of these things that were totally non consensual happened.
(06:59):
Now doesn't mean that that's not it can't happen, but
just on a at that point, it's one billion percent,
he said, She said, because there's gonna be no witnesses otherwise,
I think for most people, going into a hotel room
when you've been drinking with somebody at a bar. She
has a husband, it comes there at the hotel with
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his children as well, so her family was there during
the To be clear, there's an agreement that there was
a sexual encounter that is on the record that birth
parties say that happened. Pete is saying it was absolutely consensual.
He was actually quite drunk. There's there's evidence that she
was not, in fact and nearbrid at all. She has
intimated that she may have been drugged by somebody, but
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nobody yeah, roof, yes, nobody has any you know, there's
no evidence of that other than her saying that she
thinks that may have happened, and she went to the
She went to the hospital four days after the incident.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know they're there. Look, we're for we're being forced
to a judicate something ugly in the court of public
opinion without a judicial process.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So this is if I just look at it, buck
as like I try to take everybody at face value
and analyze the situation. He was in the process of
being divorced at the time. So what do you think
is more likely that she went to his room voluntarily
and he raped her there. That's her basic accusation, or
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her husband found out that she went to his room,
was not happy about it, and she had to come
up with a story for why she didn't misbehave in
their relationship in some way. To me, this isn't a
very difficult the situation to analyze. As the cops looked
at it, I think they probably found that to be
the most likely outcome.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't believe Pete hagg Seth committed a crime. That's
just reading all the evidence and all the reports and
all that. I do not believe Pete hagg Seth committed crime,
which is another way of saying I don't believe he
did anything legally wrong. Now correct the incident itself. Whether
you want to get into the sort of morality and
ethics of these things, I leave to the individuals who
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can make determinations about whether it is more important to
them to have Pete in a senior role of the
government or to set a standard of personal conduct that
you're then going to enforce on public officials. That's a
voter policy public or public policy and voter decision, that's
not a law enforcement decision. That's I think a critical distinction.
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I also think this is important what you said a
little bit earlier. They have lost all benefit of the doubt.
And the real loser here, I would submit, is women
that are actual victims of crimes. Because when you try
to put someone forward in the Brett Kavanaugh case and say,
oh my goodness, this woman is a victim of sexual assault,
and when you are consistently even the case that they
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came brought against Trump thirty years later, when he's inside
of a department store, people who are actual victims of
rape are less likely to be believed because they have
a put forward people that I believe are not victims
of cride, which we can attack people for political reasons. Yeah,
we can go through so many versions of this Clay,
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Why wasn't Biden's accuser who can prove that she spent
a lot of time with him, time alone with him?
You know, no one disputed those facts. It's not like
I don't know what year it happened, and I don't
know where, and I don't know who, and that was
the Blasi Ford routine. I know nothing other than don't
make this man a Supreme Court justice. Because women need
to be able to have abortions all nine months of
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a pregnancy that was her actual allegation. But you look
at the Biden allegation, and people didn't take that seriously
in the media at least, I know a lot of
you took it seriously, but in the media they ignored it.
You look at the allegations against Bill Clinton, people don't
take those seriously. On the record named women saying this
is what happened. We know that Bill Clinton is a
crazy philanderer. I mean that's not that's a matter of fact, right,
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It's just did he actually violate you know, did he
get a non consentual that it's actually assault somebody to
break the law. That's the allegation that was out there. So,
you know, Clay, here we are and they're trying to
take down everybody around Trump that they can. They're already
gonna they're gonna rudge up I'm sure as many creepy
stories about Elon as they can. Uh, just going to
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people who maybe have an axe to grind, maybe women
who feel they didn't get promoted. You can see now
this is the whole routine. They're going to try to
slime and smear everybody coming in around Trump, and unfortunately,
I think the map gate situation whenever one thinks about it.
It has definitely encouraged the opponents of the Trump administration
to go deeper and go harder.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And the other thing that I would say about this
is the ultimate impact I think is a lot of
people who would be very good at public service just
say it's not worth it. If there's somebody out there
that's going to say anything negative about you, if you
got divorced, if you had a significant other relationship that
didn't go well at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
A lot of people, I.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Think probably the majority of people are just like, it's
not worth it for me and my family today. If
the standard is hey, if somebody upset it you thirty
years ago because of the politics that you might have today,
I think there are very few guys and there are
very few gals out there, I would argue as well,
where there isn't somebody who has a reason to not
like you and wants to tear you down, and the
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media basically is out there looking for it. So I
think everybody needs to be prepared for it. And I
think to a large extent, the me too era buck
in my opinion, has been adjudicated found to have drastically overreached,
and both men and women out there were back to
where we were before the whole Me too era started,
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which is, yeah, they're still doing it though, Clay.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This is that they're still going to this well, and
they have not abandoned this as the primary weapon. And look,
you know, people don't Not everybody has like trafficked infentanl
Not everybody has killed somebody, right yeah, yea. Most people
have had sexual encounters in their life. So it's a
very easy thing to lie about. Right if someone said, oh,
you know Fetexend was trafficking you know, Colombian cocaine twenty
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years ago, like, well, clearly not. But he slept with
a woman under murky circumstances. And now there's this is
how they jam people up, because this is a thing
people have, you know, relationships, sexual relationships. Everyone pretty much does.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And also, by the way, Bucky signed the NDA during
the Me Too era when he was concerned that if
this comes out, even if it's not true, it's gonna
cost him a job. This is why I've said for
some time like these NDAs don't even have any value anymore.
You pay, Like, look what happened with Trump with the
Stormy Daniels NDA. There's basically no point in ever signing
an NDA because it comes out publicly at some point
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and it makes you look like you're guilty of something
if you ever signed one of these things.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I also feel like at some point we just have
to understand as a society. If the new standard is
that somebody can say you grope them thirty years ago
at a party when people were drunk, and you have
no memory of this person or even meeting them, but
you're you're just insisting on this, they can take down anybody. Correct. No,
nobody can actually defend against that. I mean, there's there's
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a reason why.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
What's crazy is that Kavanaugh actually had that ridiculous calendar
that actually had records of all the things that he did,
which I mean he that came to his benefit.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Most people don't have that. Yeah, they tried to. They
tried to turn a choir boy into a serial rapist. Okay,
they actually Kamala Harris led that charge. I have not
forgotten it. None of us should forget it, and we
have to take that into account when they roll out
this routine. And I'm sorry, but you're gonna it's it's
gonna get dirtier, folks. They're gonna are gonna come after
people more anyway, Clay, you got us here.
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Speaker 2 (16:09):
Welcome back into Play and Buck, and we have a
lot to discuss today. So I back and forth over
who's in pole position. I watched the Formula one show
on Netflix too. Pole position? Uh for the FBI, is
that our friend Cash Bettel Is it Mike Rodgers? Looks
like Trump has come out. I think it's that it's
not Mike Rodgers at least correct. It's tough to see,
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you know, or it's tough to follow this stuff because
it changes so frequently. That's interesting to meet Clay. We
should talk about that today. Also, in case you're wondering
how the Biden administration really feels about their single greatest
betrayal of the constitution of the American people, They are
loosening immigration policies right now so that it is allowing
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illegals to skip check ins with Immigrations and Customs enforcement.
You see this. They want people to get as entrenched.
They want as many illegals who are here to get
as entrenched as possible to make it as hard as
possible to deport them. And that's if you're wondering how
the Democrats really feel about this issue on the way out.
They couldn't fool you during the election. Now they're showing
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you to.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What extent do you think Biden is even aware of
what's going on, because it's not only loosening restrictions at
the borders. And also Ukraine is a mess too, I mean,
letting them start to have more ability to use weapons.
It seems like that's ratcheting up as well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They're throwing tantrums at the expense of the American people.
They're throwing tantrums that include allowing missiles to be fired
by Ukraine into Russian territory and now illegals skipping the
check ins they're supposed to have with ICE so ICE
can figure out where these people are. Yeah, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis brun Boy Sexton show. I
hope all of you are having fantastic fridays out there.
There's a lot of discussion as now. All of the
races are basically decided. California. I mean, I they have
to fix the ridiculous counting system that they have in place.
I think there are basically I'm looking right now, they're
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basically two uncalled house races by and large that are
in California that are going to be within a couple
of hundred votes California thirteen in California forty five. It
appears that that's going to be the difference between whether
Republicans have two hundred and twenty one or two hundred
and twenty two seats. Everything else has been essentially determined
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at this point in time. We should be sitting here
seventeen days after the election with any outstanding results. It
shouldn't be here two days after the election with any
outstanding results. But it is the case that Trump is
going to end up with several million more votes, and
when the final tally is out, Kamala Harris is going
to end up with six or seven million fewer votes
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than Joe Biden, and we may have a discussion about
that when the final numbers are in. Oh, that's interesting.
Joe Biden gets eighty one million votes. As I'm speaking
to you right now, Kamala Harris has seventy four point
three million votes. So for people out there who are
paying attention to that, tallly way less for Kamala Harris.
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Donald Trump's numbers very similar to what he posted in
twenty twenty. He's going to add a couple of million votes.
Just FYI. We will have a discussion I think at
some point, don't you think we should when the final
numbers are in, Hey, can we now go back and
look at twenty twenty and compare it to twenty twenty four.
I think that's what an honest accounting would be.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah. No, absolutely, And look, I'll admit I initially there's
no way that fifteen million votes just disappeared. Right, Well,
there's a lot of super slow counting. That's not the number,
so it is. It is less jarring now to see
what the differential is because they've closed that gap a lot.
This goes to my point, though, mister fancy steak man somebody.
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I was at dinner last night with a friend who's like,
next time we should go to that place you took
Clay friends. It was a great stake. I was like,
I don't know if you get the whole dancing routine too,
but we will. We will have dinner there. But I
think that what you'll see is Biden. Biden was a
better can. Certainly twenty twenty Biden versus twenty twenty four Kamala,
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he outperformed her. He just did better than she did.
And I don't think that's surprising. Actually, I think that's
what anybody who was being honest about where the data
was pointing would have said that, which is why they
kept Biden in as long as they did. We're in
a situation.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I was looking at the data yesterday where Trump increased
his vote share in all fifty states, and again, I
think this is going to be a fun sort of
examination of the final tally whenever it finally is tallied
and they say that now ninety nine percent.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm looking at the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Of the overall vote is in, which would suggest there's
still about a million and a half votes to be counted,
if that's accurate, But to the fact that Trump increased
his standing in all fifty states, that is, Republicans got
more support all fifty states. Is hard to do, particularly Buck,
when Kamala Harris had about a billion more dollars to
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spend overall than Trump did. Not only did she fail everywhere,
she failed despite having way more money to spend, which
is a tough combo.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I know that this is just a total I'm not
even asking to tell me the numbers here because you
know it doesn't really matter. There's a little bit of disarray,
a lot of disarray I think for Democrats started a
primary in January right now, just for fun, just as
a thought exercise, who do you think is the Democrat
nominee for next year? I know it's we're out of cycle,
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but I just mean, you know, who do you think
the Democrat base would elect to be the standard bearer
based on the fact that they just lost there incumbent
president and the vice president on that ticket, and the
vice president on the vice president's ticket, Gravin Newsom. I
think it would be Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I'll tell you quickly why I would say that, Buck,
Because I think They're going to be nervous to put
another woman forward because they're zero for two with women,
and Gretchen Whitmer I think would be the next woman up.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I see, I would go, I would go Michigan's Hillary.
I'd go Gretchen Whitmer. That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think there's going to be some calculating where they
sit back and say, we lost with Hillary, we lost
with Kamala. Is America ready to elect a woman? And
they were very calculated when they put forward Joe Biden
as an old white guy. So that's why I knock
out Whitmer. I think Shapiro actually has a Jewish problem,
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and I don't think Democrats want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But I think the math explain more. What do you
mean that he has? I think I know what you mean,
but like, like go into why you I could come
from a few different places. I think there is a
solid fifteen to twenty percent of the Democrat base that
is profoundly anti Semitic. Yes, and okay, I.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Think I think it will be hard for them to
select a Jewish man like Josh Shapiro to be the nominee.
I said Buck when we talked about the fact of
whether Biden would be replaced that if I were waiving
the magic wand, I would have made Josh Shapiro my
presidential nominee and Gretchen Whitmer my VP, because they're both
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in swing states Pennsylvania and Michigan. And if they won
those two states with those governors on the ticket, which
I think they may well have done, then all they
would have had to do was win Wiscon, which came
down to thirty thousand votes, and they would have won
the election. So I think both of those governors in
the Blue Wall, which is now the red Wall states
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will be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think JB.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Pritzker's in the mix, but I think he's too fat.
And that's I'm sorry. There are a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Out there that I'm fighting the dad bod, and I'm
not given a dad yet. But I'm just saying, like
there's a certain level the American people. There's a superficiality
in the American voter. That's what we're talking. We're not
making fat jokes. There's a superficiality in the American voter.
It would have been a problem for Chris Christy too.
I think it was a problem for Chris Christy too.
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There that is one hundred percent right, So I think
you knock him out of the list. A lot of
people are telling me Wes Moore to governor of Maryland,
black guy, really likable. I think he's too unknown. I
think Gavin Newsom buck will raise money like crazy from
all those California business types. The one reason I would
think it would not be Gavin Newsom is there's apprehension
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over California Democrat Kamala Harris losing. But I think a
lot of people are just gonna say Kamala was a
uniquely awful candidate. I think it'll be Gavin Newsom. I
think he'll be the nominee in twenty eight. I think
they'll go back to a white guy like they went
to Joe Biden. And I think they also have to
consider who they're running against. And I think you would
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have to make jd Vance a prohibitive favorite to be
the nominee in twenty eight, So I don't think you
want to. And jd Vance is a lot younger. I
don't think you want somebody older. Gavin Newsom is not young,
but he comes off as younger than he looks. If
that makes sense, Well, yes, I mean being a vampire
will do that. Yeah, I mean, you know you're just
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you're surviving off the blood of other humans. So of
course Gavin Newsom has got that going for.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Who would you say, so you think it'll be Whitner
if you were predicting right now.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I think if they had a primary starting next year,
what you're going to see it'll be very interesting. Somebody
is going to have to be the national figure that
Democrats coalesce around to be the anti to be the
anti Trump. Now, I don't think it's going to be
the same playbook they've had in the past, which is
the Trump is Hitler stuff. So that's the Adam Schiff
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Morning Joe MSNBC lunatic brigade, Right, Trump is Hitler. I
don't think that's where they're going with this. I think
it's that that will still exist. But I think that
you may have a move toward more of a uh
sort of Midwestern Democrat or or or a I know
he's not mid Western, but Basher in Kentucky. Somebody will
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your mind. But I'm telling you they're going to try.
They've got to get Look, we we should play here's
the thing. Let me tell you why they think this
is the problem or this is going to happen. We
have this, this audio from a fancy rouy Brian Williams,
Brian Williams, which I think he did a good job of.
Let's play that this and this will translate into where
(27:55):
I think the Democrat Party is going to try to
go coming up here. Play the Brian Williams clip he
on one of late night shows.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I think it's insulting when members of the working class,
which the Democratic Party has lost entirely in our lifetimes,
to insist the economy is doing great. A twelve pack
of Bounty is forty dollars. Rich folks don't feel that.
Poor folks already switched to Sparkle during the COVID during
(28:23):
the lockdown, and I think telling them that the Nasdaq
is gangbusters is further insulting.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's insulting.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think the biggest unforced era of the Biden administration.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
By far was the border.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
To tell people it's not a problem is insulting. Their
party has gone keen wah and the rest of America
is eating at cracker barrel.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Now what he's saying is true, but it's actually particularly
true for a male working class voters play in swing states,
which I would say it all along. I think the
data when we see all the votes is going to
bear this out. Reason. I think Kamala had so much
trouble and lost every swing state. How did she lose
every swing state? There are a lot of working class men,
(29:10):
and particularly white working class male voters in those states
that the Democrat Party has just turned their back on.
I think they recognize they have to start to They're
gonna have to begin to be a party that appeals
to them again, more about you know, the lunch pails
and the unions and the you know, more like the
(29:31):
Joe Biden routine. Actually, so that's I think they're gonna
look for somebody along those lines and not some left wing,
woke politician. I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I just think Andy Basheer is a total woss and
I think that he would have national appeal.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That is, like Tim Walls.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Andy Basheer is like the gay guy that gets picked,
sorry that the gay guy picks to try to appeal
to straight guys.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like he is not an I mean he's not He's
don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm saying Andy Basher, like Tim Walls, is the gay
guy's idea of who a straight guy would like. But
so Andy Basheer is not like Andy Basheer is super heterosex.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He may be the most heterosexual man of all time. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
By the way, not that there's anything wrong with that,
as Seinfeld would say, I'm just saying the Tim Wall's
spirit fingers choice was like, gay guys try to pick
who they think straight guys are gonna like, and Andy
Basheer is that for the next cycle. I can't really tell.
And maybe I can get some of you to weigh
in on this, send us emails.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Whatever. Is AOC growing into the role by being she's
kind of broken off from the squad, She's not really
She hasn't been as left wing radical, she hasn't gone
anti semitic, she hasn't done these things, and she's getting
a little bit sort of more in that range of
you know, the age where she could even run for
(30:59):
now office. I think she was so young initially she
couldn't even run for president. So, you know, is it
the right loves to talk about AOC or is she
really the next great hope of the Democrat Party. Maybe
it's four years, maybe it's eight years out, because she's
I mean, look, you look what a role social media
plays in our politics. She is a social media phenomenon.
(31:21):
There's no question about it. I mean, her following and
the engagement that she has is in the tens of millions.
It blows away any other Democrat right now, other than
like Obama and some people like that. Yeah, right, certainly
of her age range and her that cohort. So I
wonder about that. I still have an eye on AOC
as somebody that they'll be coalesceed. By the way, if
(31:43):
it's the border thing tailor made for her, perfect for her,
if the deportations happen, to become the voice of the
Democrat Party against all of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Savin Newsome, If I'm right, or even if I'm wrong
and it's a male nominee, I think they will pay
a female VP.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm just saying, you know. Clay Clay kind of turned
his back on Gavin for a while there. Gavin was like,
what about our charcuterie board. Clay I thought, I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know who probably likes pistachio. Ike Scream wants to
share it with you, Gavin Newsom. And let me just
say this, if Gavin Newsom picked AOC best looking presidential
candidate duo of all time President VP has ever been.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Trump's a good looking man. JD. Vans.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
There's nothing wrong Gavin Newsom and AOC to the extent
that everything is cosmetic out there. Best looking President VP,
combo of all time, no shot at Martin van Buren.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There's all things.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's funny to think about who would be in the
running as well. JFK and LBJ is an ugly man,
so that he brings down the JFK attractiveness ticket.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
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I would like to take this opportunity because, as you
guys know, because I said it yesterday, I'm out next week.
I'm taking a vacation. I'm thankful for vacation coming up,
and thankful for a lot of things. And I also
have a very special announcement I would like to make
coming up here in a few minutes, and it is
something that I will enjoy telling all of you. And
(36:39):
I realized that I went into this tease Clay a
little early, because I have nothing more to say other
than I have a special announcement for this audience, for
all of you across America that I would like to
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Should be fun, and we will dive into that here
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Speaker 2 (37:10):
Thanks for listening, Slay Travis
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show got
the day right, good start for the show. I had
to I've been all over the place. I just landed
back from La Buck. Appreciate him having the show yesterday.
As boy George Pickles got into a big fight in
the snow. It was awesome fun game last night. Did
you did you give out prize picks picks?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I did, and I said always bet on Pickles never
lets us down.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I don't know how Pickles did overall, I do know
that legitimately in the snow, he ended the game in
a huge fight with and then blame the loss on
the snow, which is an interesting move, but.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We'll dive into that. Have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
As many of you, I am sure, are set to
begin holiday travel or maybe you already have. I know
my wife and at least one of my sons are
going to be on the road during the course of
today's show. I know there's a lot of different moving
parts for many of you across the country, and we're
gonna have some fun here is on the Friday edition
(01:02):
of the program. But big picture as we sit here,
congratulations to Dave McCormick, We have said it on the
show for some time that he was going to be
the winner of.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That Pennsylvania Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Finally, Bob Casey yesterday afternoon evening conceded. So this basically
ends all of the statewide races, whether it's governor, whether
it's Senate, certainly, whether it's who won the presidency, and
so Republicans will have fifty three seats in the Senate.
Bob Casey, after eighteen years loses. Congratulations Senator Dave McCormick
(01:41):
from Pennsylvania, and congratulations to all of you Pennsylvanians, because
not only did you flip a Senate seat, but you
also put Donald Trump back in the White House. This
is important, Buck, because we have a lot of different
moving parts as it pertains to the cabinet, many decisions
still to be made. Yesterday you had the decision by
(02:03):
Matt Gates to drop out. I'm sure you talk quite
a lot about that. Pam Bondi has now been nominated
former Florida Attorney General as the attorney general nominee going forward.
Very well connected with Susie Wiles. But there are a
lot of Floridians. You are a Floridian now that are
a part of a Trump two point zero regime. A
(02:25):
lot of people being elevated. That makes some sense because
Susie Wilds did a great job as campaign manager. She
knows everyone in Florida very well. We were going to
talk with Nancy Mace about a big bathroom issue. She
had to cancel. It's quite a chaotic for her. She's
gonna be on with us maybe next week. But Pete
Hegseth is now the focal point. Now that Matt Gates
(02:50):
is out, they are turning everything they have on Pete
heg Seth, who is the nominee for the Defense secretary.
And so this is the newest battleground. Buck, You've known
Pete Hegseth for a long time. Do you agree with
me that basically? Now as he goes around, I think
he's gonna get confirmed. But he is the new man,
(03:12):
next man up, so to speak. On the target list.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh absolutely, And I think that for whatever the strategy
was to putting Gates forward, it has with this step
down from the nomination encouraged the Democrats. There's a blood
in the water so to speak, now around Trump's nominees. Now,
maybe that works against them, but right now I think
(03:36):
it has encouraged them and they think that they can
make a statement now by taking down other nominees. And yes,
our friend Pete Hexseat is next in their metaphorical crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So the target so far, and again I'm trying to
kind of focus on it while both of us know
Pete well the target right now, and correct me if
I'm wrong on this. Buck seems to be a twenty
seventeen incident at a Monterey Republican speaking dinner where a
(04:11):
woman alleged that they had a relationship and that he
had behaved inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
They signed an NDA and she alleged sexual assault. He
says it was consensual. That's the and the information you
can read. There's an extensive story about this. There's some
let's just say this. I have to keep coming back
to this Clay. If there were sufficient evidence, why no charge? Correct?
(04:39):
They investigated it and determined there was no criminality. It's
one thing to say someone's been charged and you still
believe they have a presumption of innocence. What is the
presumption of niscence supposed to be when there's been no charge? Even?
Do you know what I mean? Percent I understand it's
only court of public opinion. But there's inherently this challenge
that is left for people of how can you defend
(04:59):
yourself when there's no process through which to defend yourself.
There are some very Alex Bearnson picked up on this
on X. There are some reasons to look it was
an It was a highly unfortunate situation, you know, even
if it wasn't a crime. Just putting that out there
not a thing that should have gone down. I'm not
trying to cast judgment or expursions. It's just not point being.
(05:23):
It does not seem to have the elements of a
crime based on what I was able to read. I
know Pete, I like Pete. I'm not I'm not unbiased
in this process. But this is what they're doing now.
They're they're getting all these accusations, and when they've when
they've done things like Havanaugh and then the thirty year
old allegation against Trump, what are we supposed to do?
We know they've I know they've lied about other people,
(05:44):
meaning the media. Yes, I know the media has lied
about other Republicans. So I'm just going to take every
allegation they make at face value. Of course, not I
want process, I want proof.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I actually think some of these details matter, and I'm
you know, specifically, she he was drunk. There is video
of them walking together to his hotel room, and she
went into his hotel room. Okay, for anyone out there,
male or female, if you are drinking at a bar
(06:16):
and you both voluntarily go into a hotel room, which
there is video of that occurring, that is the open
public evidence that we have. I'm not saying that going
into a hotel room guarantees that everything is consensual inside
the hotel room. I'm saying for most men and women,
(06:36):
most men and women out there, I think if you
are drinking at a bar and you go into a
hotel room with someone else, and it's clear that it
was voluntary and that you were making a choice to
go into that hotel room, I think it's hard to say, hey,
then all of these things that were totally non consensual happened.
(06:59):
Now doesn't mean that that's not it can't happen, but
just on a at that point, it's one billion percent,
he said, She said, because there's gonna be no witnesses otherwise,
I think for most people, going into a hotel room
when you've been drinking with somebody at a bar. She
has a husband, it comes there at the hotel with
(07:22):
his children as well, so her family was there during
the To be clear, there's an agreement that there was
a sexual encounter that is on the record that birth
parties say that happened. Pete is saying it was absolutely consensual.
He was actually quite drunk. There's there's evidence that she
was not, in fact and nearbrid at all. She has
intimated that she may have been drugged by somebody, but
(07:45):
nobody yeah, roof, yes, nobody has any you know, there's
no evidence of that other than her saying that she
thinks that may have happened, and she went to the
She went to the hospital four days after the incident.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know they're there. Look, we're for we're being forced
to a judicate something ugly in the court of public
opinion without a judicial process.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So this is if I just look at it, buck
as like I try to take everybody at face value
and analyze the situation. He was in the process of
being divorced at the time. So what do you think
is more likely that she went to his room voluntarily
and he raped her there. That's her basic accusation, or
(08:27):
her husband found out that she went to his room,
was not happy about it, and she had to come
up with a story for why she didn't misbehave in
their relationship in some way. To me, this isn't a
very difficult the situation to analyze. As the cops looked
at it, I think they probably found that to be
the most likely outcome.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't believe Pete hagg Seth committed a crime. That's
just reading all the evidence and all the reports and
all that. I do not believe Pete hagg Seth committed crime,
which is another way of saying I don't believe he
did anything legally wrong. Now correct the incident itself. Whether
you want to get into the sort of morality and
ethics of these things, I leave to the individuals who
(09:06):
can make determinations about whether it is more important to
them to have Pete in a senior role of the
government or to set a standard of personal conduct that
you're then going to enforce on public officials. That's a
voter policy public or public policy and voter decision, that's
not a law enforcement decision. That's I think a critical distinction.
(09:28):
I also think this is important what you said a
little bit earlier. They have lost all benefit of the doubt.
And the real loser here, I would submit, is women
that are actual victims of crimes. Because when you try
to put someone forward in the Brett Kavanaugh case and say,
oh my goodness, this woman is a victim of sexual assault,
and when you are consistently even the case that they
(09:51):
came brought against Trump thirty years later, when he's inside
of a department store, people who are actual victims of
rape are less likely to be believed because they have
a put forward people that I believe are not victims
of cride, which we can attack people for political reasons. Yeah,
we can go through so many versions of this Clay,
(10:13):
Why wasn't Biden's accuser who can prove that she spent
a lot of time with him, time alone with him?
You know, no one disputed those facts. It's not like
I don't know what year it happened, and I don't
know where, and I don't know who, and that was
the Blasi Ford routine. I know nothing other than don't
make this man a Supreme Court justice. Because women need
to be able to have abortions all nine months of
(10:34):
a pregnancy that was her actual allegation. But you look
at the Biden allegation, and people didn't take that seriously
in the media at least, I know a lot of
you took it seriously, but in the media they ignored it.
You look at the allegations against Bill Clinton, people don't
take those seriously. On the record named women saying this
is what happened. We know that Bill Clinton is a
crazy philanderer. I mean that's not that's a matter of fact, right,
(10:56):
It's just did he actually violate you know, did he
get a non consentual that it's actually assault somebody to
break the law. That's the allegation that was out there. So,
you know, Clay, here we are and they're trying to
take down everybody around Trump that they can. They're already
gonna they're gonna rudge up I'm sure as many creepy
stories about Elon as they can. Uh, just going to
(11:17):
people who maybe have an axe to grind, maybe women
who feel they didn't get promoted. You can see now
this is the whole routine. They're going to try to
slime and smear everybody coming in around Trump, and unfortunately,
I think the map gate situation whenever one thinks about it.
It has definitely encouraged the opponents of the Trump administration
to go deeper and go harder.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And the other thing that I would say about this
is the ultimate impact I think is a lot of
people who would be very good at public service just
say it's not worth it. If there's somebody out there
that's going to say anything negative about you, if you
got divorced, if you had a significant other relationship that
didn't go well at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
A lot of people, I.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Think probably the majority of people are just like, it's
not worth it for me and my family today. If
the standard is hey, if somebody upset it you thirty
years ago because of the politics that you might have today,
I think there are very few guys and there are
very few gals out there, I would argue as well,
where there isn't somebody who has a reason to not
like you and wants to tear you down, and the
(12:23):
media basically is out there looking for it. So I
think everybody needs to be prepared for it. And I
think to a large extent, the me too era buck
in my opinion, has been adjudicated found to have drastically overreached,
and both men and women out there were back to
where we were before the whole Me too era started,
(12:44):
which is, yeah, they're still doing it though, Clay.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This is that they're still going to this well, and
they have not abandoned this as the primary weapon. And look,
you know, people don't Not everybody has like trafficked infentanl
Not everybody has killed somebody, right yeah, yea. Most people
have had sexual encounters in their life. So it's a
very easy thing to lie about. Right if someone said, oh,
you know Fetexend was trafficking you know, Colombian cocaine twenty
(13:10):
years ago, like, well, clearly not. But he slept with
a woman under murky circumstances. And now there's this is
how they jam people up, because this is a thing
people have, you know, relationships, sexual relationships. Everyone pretty much does.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And also, by the way, Bucky signed the NDA during
the Me Too era when he was concerned that if
this comes out, even if it's not true, it's gonna
cost him a job. This is why I've said for
some time like these NDAs don't even have any value anymore.
You pay, Like, look what happened with Trump with the
Stormy Daniels NDA. There's basically no point in ever signing
an NDA because it comes out publicly at some point
(13:46):
and it makes you look like you're guilty of something
if you ever signed one of these things.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I also feel like at some point we just have
to understand as a society. If the new standard is
that somebody can say you grope them thirty years ago
at a party when people were drunk, and you have
no memory of this person or even meeting them, but
you're you're just insisting on this, they can take down anybody. Correct. No,
nobody can actually defend against that. I mean, there's there's
(14:11):
a reason why.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
What's crazy is that Kavanaugh actually had that ridiculous calendar
that actually had records of all the things that he did,
which I mean he that came to his benefit.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Most people don't have that. Yeah, they tried to. They
tried to turn a choir boy into a serial rapist. Okay,
they actually Kamala Harris led that charge. I have not
forgotten it. None of us should forget it, and we
have to take that into account when they roll out
this routine. And I'm sorry, but you're gonna it's it's
gonna get dirtier, folks. They're gonna are gonna come after
people more anyway, Clay, you got us here.
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Speaker 2 (16:09):
Welcome back into Play and Buck, and we have a
lot to discuss today. So I back and forth over
who's in pole position. I watched the Formula one show
on Netflix too. Pole position? Uh for the FBI, is
that our friend Cash Bettel Is it Mike Rodgers? Looks
like Trump has come out. I think it's that it's
not Mike Rodgers at least correct. It's tough to see,
(16:31):
you know, or it's tough to follow this stuff because
it changes so frequently. That's interesting to meet Clay. We
should talk about that today. Also, in case you're wondering
how the Biden administration really feels about their single greatest
betrayal of the constitution of the American people, They are
loosening immigration policies right now so that it is allowing
(16:54):
illegals to skip check ins with Immigrations and Customs enforcement.
You see this. They want people to get as entrenched.
They want as many illegals who are here to get
as entrenched as possible to make it as hard as
possible to deport them. And that's if you're wondering how
the Democrats really feel about this issue on the way out.
They couldn't fool you during the election. Now they're showing
(17:15):
you to.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What extent do you think Biden is even aware of
what's going on, because it's not only loosening restrictions at
the borders. And also Ukraine is a mess too, I mean,
letting them start to have more ability to use weapons.
It seems like that's ratcheting up as well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They're throwing tantrums at the expense of the American people.
They're throwing tantrums that include allowing missiles to be fired
by Ukraine into Russian territory and now illegals skipping the
check ins they're supposed to have with ICE so ICE
can figure out where these people are. Yeah, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We'll talk about that we'll dive back into the confirmation battles.
Maybe some good news as well during the course of
today's show. As we roll into the weekend, I've been
traveling all over the country. I was in La, did
the show Tuesday Wednesday, there flew back, thanks to Buck
for having the show yesterday while I was in the air.
And you know what I'm gonna do when I finished
these shows, A couple of more shows, and then I'm
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(19:04):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis brun Boy Sexton show. I
hope all of you are having fantastic fridays out there.
There's a lot of discussion as now. All of the
races are basically decided. California. I mean, I they have
to fix the ridiculous counting system that they have in place.
I think there are basically I'm looking right now, they're
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basically two uncalled house races by and large that are
in California that are going to be within a couple
of hundred votes California thirteen in California forty five. It
appears that that's going to be the difference between whether
Republicans have two hundred and twenty one or two hundred
and twenty two seats. Everything else has been essentially determined
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at this point in time. We should be sitting here
seventeen days after the election with any outstanding results. It
shouldn't be here two days after the election with any
outstanding results. But it is the case that Trump is
going to end up with several million more votes, and
when the final tally is out, Kamala Harris is going
to end up with six or seven million fewer votes
(20:17):
than Joe Biden, and we may have a discussion about
that when the final numbers are in. Oh, that's interesting.
Joe Biden gets eighty one million votes. As I'm speaking
to you right now, Kamala Harris has seventy four point
three million votes. So for people out there who are
paying attention to that, tallly way less for Kamala Harris.
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Donald Trump's numbers very similar to what he posted in
twenty twenty. He's going to add a couple of million votes.
Just FYI. We will have a discussion I think at
some point, don't you think we should when the final
numbers are in, Hey, can we now go back and
look at twenty twenty and compare it to twenty twenty four.
I think that's what an honest accounting would be.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah. No, absolutely, And look, I'll admit I initially there's
no way that fifteen million votes just disappeared. Right, Well,
there's a lot of super slow counting. That's not the number,
so it is. It is less jarring now to see
what the differential is because they've closed that gap a lot.
This goes to my point, though, mister fancy steak man somebody.
(21:25):
I was at dinner last night with a friend who's like,
next time we should go to that place you took
Clay friends. It was a great stake. I was like,
I don't know if you get the whole dancing routine too,
but we will. We will have dinner there. But I
think that what you'll see is Biden. Biden was a
better can. Certainly twenty twenty Biden versus twenty twenty four Kamala,
(21:45):
he outperformed her. He just did better than she did.
And I don't think that's surprising. Actually, I think that's
what anybody who was being honest about where the data
was pointing would have said that, which is why they
kept Biden in as long as they did. We're in
a situation.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I was looking at the data yesterday where Trump increased
his vote share in all fifty states, and again, I
think this is going to be a fun sort of
examination of the final tally whenever it finally is tallied
and they say that now ninety nine percent.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm looking at the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Of the overall vote is in, which would suggest there's
still about a million and a half votes to be counted,
if that's accurate, But to the fact that Trump increased
his standing in all fifty states, that is, Republicans got
more support all fifty states. Is hard to do, particularly Buck,
when Kamala Harris had about a billion more dollars to
(22:40):
spend overall than Trump did. Not only did she fail everywhere,
she failed despite having way more money to spend, which
is a tough combo.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I know that this is just a total I'm not
even asking to tell me the numbers here because you
know it doesn't really matter. There's a little bit of disarray,
a lot of disarray I think for Democrats started a
primary in January right now, just for fun, just as
a thought exercise, who do you think is the Democrat
nominee for next year? I know it's we're out of cycle,
(23:11):
but I just mean, you know, who do you think
the Democrat base would elect to be the standard bearer
based on the fact that they just lost there incumbent
president and the vice president on that ticket, and the
vice president on the vice president's ticket, Gravin Newsom. I
think it would be Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I'll tell you quickly why I would say that, Buck,
Because I think They're going to be nervous to put
another woman forward because they're zero for two with women,
and Gretchen Whitmer I think would be the next woman up.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I see, I would go, I would go Michigan's Hillary.
I'd go Gretchen Whitmer. That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think there's going to be some calculating where they
sit back and say, we lost with Hillary, we lost
with Kamala. Is America ready to elect a woman? And
they were very calculated when they put forward Joe Biden
as an old white guy. So that's why I knock
out Whitmer. I think Shapiro actually has a Jewish problem,
(24:08):
and I don't think Democrats want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But I think the math explain more. What do you
mean that he has? I think I know what you mean,
but like, like go into why you I could come
from a few different places. I think there is a
solid fifteen to twenty percent of the Democrat base that
is profoundly anti Semitic. Yes, and okay, I.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Think I think it will be hard for them to
select a Jewish man like Josh Shapiro to be the nominee.
I said Buck when we talked about the fact of
whether Biden would be replaced that if I were waiving
the magic wand, I would have made Josh Shapiro my
presidential nominee and Gretchen Whitmer my VP, because they're both
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in swing states Pennsylvania and Michigan. And if they won
those two states with those governors on the ticket, which
I think they may well have done, then all they
would have had to do was win Wiscon, which came
down to thirty thousand votes, and they would have won
the election. So I think both of those governors in
the Blue Wall, which is now the red Wall states
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will be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think JB.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Pritzker's in the mix, but I think he's too fat.
And that's I'm sorry. There are a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Out there that I'm fighting the dad bod, and I'm
not given a dad yet. But I'm just saying, like
there's a certain level the American people. There's a superficiality
in the American voter. That's what we're talking. We're not
making fat jokes. There's a superficiality in the American voter.
It would have been a problem for Chris Christy too.
I think it was a problem for Chris Christy too.
(25:38):
There that is one hundred percent right, So I think
you knock him out of the list. A lot of
people are telling me Wes Moore to governor of Maryland,
black guy, really likable. I think he's too unknown. I
think Gavin Newsom buck will raise money like crazy from
all those California business types. The one reason I would
think it would not be Gavin Newsom is there's apprehension
(26:00):
over California Democrat Kamala Harris losing. But I think a
lot of people are just gonna say Kamala was a
uniquely awful candidate. I think it'll be Gavin Newsom. I
think he'll be the nominee in twenty eight. I think
they'll go back to a white guy like they went
to Joe Biden. And I think they also have to
consider who they're running against. And I think you would
(26:20):
have to make jd Vance a prohibitive favorite to be
the nominee in twenty eight, So I don't think you
want to. And jd Vance is a lot younger. I
don't think you want somebody older. Gavin Newsom is not young,
but he comes off as younger than he looks. If
that makes sense, Well, yes, I mean being a vampire
will do that. Yeah, I mean, you know you're just
(26:41):
you're surviving off the blood of other humans. So of
course Gavin Newsom has got that going for.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Who would you say, so you think it'll be Whitner
if you were predicting right now.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I think if they had a primary starting next year,
what you're going to see it'll be very interesting. Somebody
is going to have to be the national figure that
Democrats coalesce around to be the anti to be the
anti Trump. Now, I don't think it's going to be
the same playbook they've had in the past, which is
the Trump is Hitler stuff. So that's the Adam Schiff
(27:10):
Morning Joe MSNBC lunatic brigade, Right, Trump is Hitler. I
don't think that's where they're going with this. I think
it's that that will still exist. But I think that
you may have a move toward more of a uh
sort of Midwestern Democrat or or or a I know
he's not mid Western, but Basher in Kentucky. Somebody will
(27:35):
your mind. But I'm telling you they're going to try.
They've got to get Look, we we should play here's
the thing. Let me tell you why they think this
is the problem or this is going to happen. We
have this, this audio from a fancy rouy Brian Williams,
Brian Williams, which I think he did a good job of.
Let's play that this and this will translate into where
(27:55):
I think the Democrat Party is going to try to
go coming up here. Play the Brian Williams clip he
on one of late night shows.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I think it's insulting when members of the working class,
which the Democratic Party has lost entirely in our lifetimes,
to insist the economy is doing great. A twelve pack
of Bounty is forty dollars. Rich folks don't feel that.
Poor folks already switched to Sparkle during the COVID during
(28:23):
the lockdown, and I think telling them that the Nasdaq
is gangbusters is further insulting.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's insulting.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think the biggest unforced era of the Biden administration.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
By far was the border.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
To tell people it's not a problem is insulting. Their
party has gone keen wah and the rest of America
is eating at cracker barrel.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Now what he's saying is true, but it's actually particularly
true for a male working class voters play in swing states,
which I would say it all along. I think the
data when we see all the votes is going to
bear this out. Reason. I think Kamala had so much
trouble and lost every swing state. How did she lose
every swing state? There are a lot of working class men,
(29:10):
and particularly white working class male voters in those states
that the Democrat Party has just turned their back on.
I think they recognize they have to start to They're
gonna have to begin to be a party that appeals
to them again, more about you know, the lunch pails
and the unions and the you know, more like the
(29:31):
Joe Biden routine. Actually, so that's I think they're gonna
look for somebody along those lines and not some left wing,
woke politician. I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I just think Andy Basheer is a total woss and
I think that he would have national appeal.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
That is, like Tim Walls.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Andy Basheer is like the gay guy that gets picked,
sorry that the gay guy picks to try to appeal
to straight guys.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like he is not an I mean he's not He's
don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm saying Andy Basher, like Tim Walls, is the gay
guy's idea of who a straight guy would like. But
so Andy Basheer is not like Andy Basheer is super heterosex.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
He may be the most heterosexual man of all time. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
By the way, not that there's anything wrong with that,
as Seinfeld would say, I'm just saying the Tim Wall's
spirit fingers choice was like, gay guys try to pick
who they think straight guys are gonna like, and Andy
Basheer is that for the next cycle. I can't really tell.
And maybe I can get some of you to weigh
in on this, send us emails.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Whatever. Is AOC growing into the role by being she's
kind of broken off from the squad, She's not really
She hasn't been as left wing radical, she hasn't gone
anti semitic, she hasn't done these things, and she's getting
a little bit sort of more in that range of
you know, the age where she could even run for
(30:59):
now office. I think she was so young initially she
couldn't even run for president. So, you know, is it
the right loves to talk about AOC or is she
really the next great hope of the Democrat Party. Maybe
it's four years, maybe it's eight years out, because she's
I mean, look, you look what a role social media
plays in our politics. She is a social media phenomenon.
(31:21):
There's no question about it. I mean, her following and
the engagement that she has is in the tens of millions.
It blows away any other Democrat right now, other than
like Obama and some people like that. Yeah, right, certainly
of her age range and her that cohort. So I
wonder about that. I still have an eye on AOC
as somebody that they'll be coalesceed. By the way, if
(31:43):
it's the border thing tailor made for her, perfect for her,
if the deportations happen, to become the voice of the
Democrat Party against all of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Savin Newsome, If I'm right, or even if I'm wrong
and it's a male nominee, I think they will pay
a female VP.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I'm just saying, you know. Clay Clay kind of turned
his back on Gavin for a while there. Gavin was like,
what about our charcuterie board. Clay I thought, I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know who probably likes pistachio. Ike Scream wants to
share it with you, Gavin Newsom. And let me just
say this, if Gavin Newsom picked AOC best looking presidential
candidate duo of all time President VP has ever been.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Trump's a good looking man. JD. Vans.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
There's nothing wrong Gavin Newsom and AOC to the extent
that everything is cosmetic out there. Best looking President VP,
combo of all time, no shot at Martin van Buren.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There's all things.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's funny to think about who would be in the
running as well. JFK and LBJ is an ugly man,
so that he brings down the JFK attractiveness ticket.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
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into Clay and Buck drinking my Crocket coffee over here.
It is delicious every day. But as we're going in
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don't have a cool mug. I always feel like, uh,
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I would like to take this opportunity because, as you
guys know, because I said it yesterday, I'm out next week.
I'm taking a vacation. I'm thankful for vacation coming up,
and thankful for a lot of things. And I also
have a very special announcement I would like to make
coming up here in a few minutes, and it is
something that I will enjoy telling all of you. And
(36:39):
I realized that I went into this tease Clay a
little early, because I have nothing more to say other
than I have a special announcement for this audience, for
all of you across America that I would like to
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