October 2, 2024 • 36 mins
JD Vance beat Tim Walz badly. Vance takes on the moderators on immigration, gets mic shut off. CBS moderator bias was obvious. Walz's cringe-inducing answer on lying about being in China during the Tiananmen Square protest. Walz not asked by moderators about multiple lies, BLM riots, covid lockdowns. Question about Hurricane Helene framed as climate change.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome In Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. It
was an incredible performance from jd Vance last night that
I think is going to have significant momentum for the
Trump Vance ticket as we roll into October. One of
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the things that I think many people have wanted for
some time is for there to be an articulate version
of the Trump argument and Trump gets to In my opinion,
I think Bucks two the right place on many, if
not most, issues facing the country today. But he is
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a bull in a china shop getting there, breaking all
sorts of things in the process. And if you go
back and look at much of the media attacks on Trump,
it's actually for the process, not the end result. And
what stood out to me last night, We're going to
play a lot of cuts for you, and I'm curious
to hear all of Buck's take on this as well,
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But what stood out to me last night was jd
Vance was incredibly articulate at making arguments both for himself
and for Trump when they tried to attack him based
on what Trump had said, and Tim Walls, I just
I'm sorry, he's not up for this job. And I
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thought as the debate went on, it probably was becoming
clearer and clearer to so many people out there that
had been sold a false bill of goods about what
jd Vance was. They tried to attack him as weird,
and I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance associated with
that as you watched this forty year old father of
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three look completely calm, normal, steadfast, talented as he dissected
arguments and buck. To me, the ultimate big takeaway from
the VP debate at its most foundational level is it's
the most important choice that you make as president once
you're the nominee, and it tells us a lot about you.
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The fact that Trump picked jd Vance, who is a brilliant,
stellar communicator and advocate, and Kamala Harris picked Tim Walls,
who was a doddering, buffoonish liar who actually only got picked,
I think because Josh Shapiro happens to be Jewish, and
I think we're going to get into that, and I
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think it's going to become a larger criticism on the
left of Kala. But Kamala picked a boone. Trump picked
a stud and last night that ultimately reflected well on Trump,
and I thought poorly on Kamala. What was your kind
of big picture takeaway from last night.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I can't think of a better debate performance on the
Merits on a presidential or vice presidential stage in my
memory than what I saw from JD Vance last night. Now,
Trump has had some incredibly effective debate performances. Obviously, Joe
Biden's campaign ended after one. Trump beating all of the
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Republicans in the twenty sixteen primary was a sight to see.
But I think we all should be honest. Trump's version
of winning the debate is a little different from what
you would think of if you had been on like
Lincoln Douglas or policy debate team in high school.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Trump is good with the one liners and the jokes
and the performance, and that's not the same kind of
thing that you saw on display last night. Look, I
thought it was a really respectful and substantive debate. I
thought that there was a nice level of decorum and
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decency showed by both candidates. I think JD put on
a clinic on the Merits for how to disassemble your
opponent's arguments, stay on message, speak with clarity and eloquence
so he gets an A plus.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Walls from me was better than I thought he would
be Oh he was okay. He was a little better
than I thought he would be.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now that this is always about what are your expectations, right,
I thought that he would go in there where there's oh,
you know, a fancy J. D.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Waltz with his Yale degree. He didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He didn't do the mud slinging kind of idiot talking
points that I had expected. Look, he got he got
nailed on the China visit issue, which was just bizarre
the way that he handled that. But I guess he
doesn't want to say, look, I just lied, and you
guys called me the lie. There were there were a
range of areas where I think he did really poorly.
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The only place where I think he managed to sound
like somebody who knows anything about anything was on healthcare.
To be fair, I thought that he handled Look, he's
lucky he's in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's like if you asked the governor of North the
about oil, they're gonna know oil. Minnesota is a big
healthcare state, so it was a little bit of a
sweet spot for him. The thing that I thought was
most impressive for JD.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, there's this thing that people say after debates,
and people said it after the ABC News debate, Clay,
if you're complaining about the refs, you're losing, actually not
always true, Yeah, because the refs were terrible, as in,
the moderators were absolute partisan garbage, and JD. Vance still
handily won the debate. It was three on one and
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he smoked all three. I mean, some of the all
the framing of the questions meant to help, meant to
help Walls. The way they fact checked or you know,
they kind of corrected or whatever they want to call it,
JD and not Walls couldn't have been more obvious. Whenever
it was time to ask a follow up of Walls,
it was, what do.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You want to add to that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They're big tim you know, I mean they might as
well have been giving him a shoulder rub on the screen.
But I just want to go because I think this
is so important Clay. After the ABC News to beate,
people were, oh, you're complaining about Muir, it's because you lost.
Trump didn't look at the numbers, didn't lose that debate
by public opinion. And beyond that, the moderator was garbage.
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The moderators in this were garbage. Brennan and whatever the
other lady's name, odn O'Donnell. They were clearly partisan hacks,
and JD Vance smoked them. So just remember that the
next time someone's like, if you're complaining about the refs, no,
it is possible to have terrible refs and win the game.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And JD did, And what he did was what I
wish Trump had done, because let's play that clip. I
think it's so important. Trump never directly confronted David Muir
and whatever the Lindsay Nelson or Davis or whatever the
heck her name was at ABC, even though they were
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constantly trying to fact check him when they tried, and
I only remember buck one time where they tried, and
was so devastating JD. Vance's response to them, which eliminated
that he understood the issue so much better than they did,
and also demonstrated just how much of partisan hacks they
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were that they had to turn off his microphone. I
thought that was the moment where he took complete control
of the debate. Let's play that for people out there.
It's the one thing I wish Trump had been willing
to do during his debate against Kamala Harris because I
think it would have brought into the open for more
people just how rigged and biased it was. But listen
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to that from last night.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have
a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status
temporary protective maura.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But thank you, senator.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
We have so much to get to, Margaret.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I think it's important to the economy. Thanks Margaret.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
The rules were that you got in a fact check,
and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important
to say what's actually going on.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So there's an application called.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The CBP one app where you can go on as
an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole
and be granted legal status at the wave of a
Kamala Harris open border Wand that is not a person
coming in applying for a green cart and waiting for
ten years. Thank you, Senator of a legal immigration Margaret bye.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Thank you senator for describing the legal product. Have so
much ticket to the Senator, go sell the book.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Since nineteen ninety, thank you, gentlemen, the app has not
been on the books.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
There was no reasons. Yes, I agree, you know no
reason immute is Mike there? That was just sort of
spiteful garbage from these moderators. First of all, listen to
the the by the facts and by the by the reality.
It sounds like he listens to the Clay and buckshow
and immigration. I'll be honest with you talking about this
AVP one app talking about and this is what I
try to say to people, and I get frustrated. We
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discussed this here a lot on the show. Whatever you
think the problem with a legal immigration is, it's actually
worse because Biden Harris have abused laws to bring in
even more people through what is essentially an emergency immigration
process of if you don't take me, I'm gonna die.
If you don't take me, I'm gonna be tortured. Well,
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that's supposed to be like for an actual emergency, not
ten million or five million or however many millions of
people have come into the country. That's what they've allowed
to happen. It's critical. So I thought Clay that exchange
was important on the merits right, on the actual substance
of the policy, but also to not let them get
away with that I mean to do this little you know,
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look off.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I mean, I was sitting watching this with I did
a bit with Tommy Layer and Pete heg Seth. We
were all watching it together and Pete's wife said, oh, man,
that's like a mom treats the kids, where you just
like Pete's kind of a allusion. Clay Well, his wife
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was there, Who's fantastic, And she was saying, and she
used to be a producer at Fox News, but she
was saying. Her immediate reaction was and I get it.
It does remind me of what a parent does to
a toddler that is misbehaving, just turning off the mics.
But I thought it was impossible to ignore from that
point forward once he directly confronted them, first of all,
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how much smarter he is than they are. Let's be clear,
you can rip jd Vance for opinions you disagree with
him on. But the reason I thought that he would
win is I think there was a massive IQ differential
between jd Vance and Tim Walls. I think Tim Walls
is not a very smart man. I think jd Vance
are really smart. Did he come across as as likable though?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
To you?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Would you say, or more likeable than you anticipated. Walls.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, that was where I compare him to Kamala That's
what I mean. If you look at those two, Tim
Wallas is far more affable than Kamala Harris in terms of.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
One thing I was thinking Buck was if we hadn't
gotten Biden dropping out, can you imagine what jad Vance
would have done to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, that's the only part of last night that was
disappointing for me. It would have been almost worth it
just to have that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I mean, it would have been an a visceration. The
other thing I'll say, and we need to kind of
dive into this more. I also think this is why
I know people get mad when people sit for these
antagonistic interviews, but iron sharpens iron. Jd Vance was ready
for them to hit him with the most biased, the
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most unfair, the most rigged questions because he has been
sitting for these interviews. He was prepared. He didn't need
to go through a ton of prep. And I thought
Walls when he got one actually confrontational question, crumbled because
they've tried to hide him and and actually, you do
a disservice to your candidate when you don't allow them
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to be aggressively questioned, because then when it happens, they crumble.
It's like in sports when you don't play against any
good competition and suddenly you're down in a game. Are
you going to go and get a different level of
commitment and excellence or are you going to crumble? If
you haven't tested yourself. Most people crumble. And I thought
that's what Walls did. If he had really gotten aggressively
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questioned Buck, I think he would have fallen apart even
worse than I thought he did under that line of
question eight.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But I really do think, and I know maybe it
sounds like I'm like, you know, mister Rogers inviting everybody
to the neighborhood or something, But it was nice to
have a debate where put us on the monter is
are trash.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We've called that out, so let's be clear.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I wish I wish we would stop this thing of
like we need to have Democrat partisans hosting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like it's radulous.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Put it on Rogan, put it on, I mean our show.
It's funny because like you know, we'd be considered right wing.
I guess whatever, fine, but he would do a phenomenal
job as moderators of it. I mean, I unbelieve. Here's
the thing. Questions don't have to be rigged. You could
just say, hey, Tim Walls, about ten million, about ten
million people have come across the border through non legal
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or sort of super legal means under Kamala's watch.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What do you think about that? And what are you
going to do about it? Going forward? Hey? JD Vance,
if Trump is president, how's he going to stop?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
That?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You can ask questions agree where the answer is what matters.
Last night it was the usual thing of like, well,
Tim Wall, since you care about women's rights to bodily
autonomy and don't want to turn them into slaves of
their wombs, you know, And then it's JD Vans, JD Van,
since you're like a misogynist pig, what do you think?
I mean, it's very obvious what they will.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And even on Hurricane Helene, it's not hey, why is
there not a more federal resources being committed? It's all
this impacts climate change? I mean, I think it was
the second friggin question that they asked to come back.
People of your people believe climate change is that level
of important, So the same mentality and the same IQ
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Speaker 1 (17:16):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I can just tell you as much as one exists,
is that JD was very skilled up there. Even those
who hate him found him very skilled. And I made
note of this on Twitter, but whenever their first criticism
is he was lying and lying and lying. If someone
doesn't tell you what a lie is, be cautious when
they start claiming that a person they don't like in
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said that about JD on Morning Joe a lot. I
was watching, of course, as I do, because they couldn't
say he's not really smart, he didn't come across really
well and he didn't kick ass, so.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know what I mean.
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They had to go with he lies, So I thought
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about JD. Vance, this big performance last night that has
given a jolt of energy to the Trump Vance campaign,
and I think has put a little bit of concern
even more into the Kamala Walls campaign and maybe probably
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is the last time that we will hear from either
candidate on the same stage as we now sit, what
thirty four days away, five weeks and one day less
than five weeks. Thirty four days I think is right
until election Day. And Buck, I thought one of the
most uncomfortable moments that I've seen on the stage for
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a president or vice president candidate, maybe, in fact, the
worst moment since do you remember Admiral Stockdel back in
ninety two Ross Perrot's VP debate nominee, I mean his
VP for his candidacy. It was one of the most
uncomfortable things ever. It was a three way back then
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Al Gore, I guess it would have been Dan Quail
and Admiral Stockdale and it was just a crazy scene.
Stockdale could barely speak. And this was I thought. When
Tim Walls was directly questioned about why he lied about
being in tienam And Square, one of the worst moments
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I've ever seen in a presidential or vice presidential debate.
It was cringe inducing and it went on a long time. Listen.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I will be the first to tell you i have
poured my heart into my community. I've tried to do
the best I can, but I've not been perfect, and
I'm a knucklehead at times. But it's always been about
that those same people elected me to Congress for twelve years.
Many times I will talk a lot, I will get
caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact
it made, the difference, it made in my life I
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learned a lot about China, governor.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Just to follow up on that, the question was, can
you explain the noteancy.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong
and China during the democracy protest went in and from
that I learned a lot of what needed to be
in governance.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, we cut off the first part where he started
off his answer to being asked why he lied about
being in China during the Taneman Square protest by saying,
I used to ride my bike around in Nebraska. Two
and a half minutes of gobblygook that was actually uncomfortable
to watch as he slowly just collapsed and buck. What
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I would say about this is you mentioned fact checking.
Almost all fact checking when you really get down to it,
is a dispute over political related issues and the way
they're conveyed. Lies, and I mean real lies. Tim Wallas
has had a lot of them. He lied about his
dui in his first campaign in Minnesota. He lied about
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being in China for Tianamen Square, which is really a
strange thing to lie about. I'm curious about how you
would react to it. He lied about carrying weapons of
war in combat. He appears to have lied we had
on the sergeant major command sergeant major who took his place.
He appears to have lied about the timing on why
he didn't to deploy to Iraq with his unit after
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being in the National Guard for so long. There are
many different clear lies that have come from Tim Walls,
and I do think that that is a symptom of
something larger as it pertains to all of these. I mean,
first of all, Buck, why would you lie about being
in Tianaman Square in June of nineteen eighty nine. If anything,
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I would think you would lie and not want to
be there, because why would you want to say, yeah,
I was in China when they overthrew democracy protesters. If anything,
I would want to be there afterwards. It's very strange,
but I think this is symptom of all of the
lies that he's told. These are ones we just know about,
and how he's been unable to answer direct questions about them,
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because remember they've only really let him sit for one interview,
and that was with CNN, and it was with Kamala Harris,
and he didn't really answer questions. Then when he asked
why he carried weapons of war in combat, he said
that he's bad with grammar. Now he says he's a knucklehead.
Another way to say that would be he's lied multiple
times about his past.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
There were some major areas of weakness that I think
the Democrat ticket, both Walls and Harris got away with
last night because of the moderators were if you were
if you were watching that debate and you didn't know
what was going on, like if you just were, you know,
dropped in from another country or another time period, would
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you even know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have
been running this country in the White House for the
last four years. I mean, think of the amount of
time been on Trump and what Trump did, which is
interesting because JD. Vance wasn't on that ticket. Jad Vance
wasn't wasn't with Trump. That was over four, you know,
going on four years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now JD. Vance wasn't even in politics buck when all
of that happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But you see what I mean, they forced by the
way they set up the questions and the way that
they brought up topics and everything else. They tried to
make it a referendum on Trump's first term while protecting
the Democrat on the stage, Walls from having to speak
about how it hasn't been a good four years okay,
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worst order ever, the thing that drives me insane is
I need in neon lights if there's another debate, Trump
or vance whatever. Ten million okay, ten million in four years,
mostly illegally, some of them getting cheap. By the way,
temporary protected status is like it's supposed to be renewed
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every six months, okay, and the second and it's not renewed,
then you're deportable.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So this idea like.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They're here legally, they're they're here legally right now, They're
gonna be here illegally really soon. And of course Democrats
aren't gonna want to enforce that or deport them either.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's the whole game. But Clay, I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
If if Biden and Kamala Harris had had a good
four years, that would be a dominant component of you know, JD.
Van I mean, sorry, Tim Walls will be up there
saying I'm going to continue the you know, I'm gonna
finish the job. I'm gonna continue the trajectory I'm gonna
rack up more wins. You didn't even know who was
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president last night? Did they even mention Biden? And why
hasn't anyone asked in a debate Kamala or Walls about
the enormous fraud perpetrated on the American people of Joe
Biden has dementia and Kamala knew it for a long
time and lied about it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Not only that, there are two other things that I
think if you're gonna have Tim Walls on the stage
as much as I think him lying about Tianaman Square
and putting him on the spot is is valid. Fuck.
He wasn't asked anything about the BLM riots in Minneapolis
that he allowed to occur. And he wasn't asked anything
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at all about his COVID lockdowns, which were among the
most draconian of any state in the country. Wouldn't you think,
if you're trying to assess whether this guy deserves to
be a heartbeat away from the presidency, that the two
most consequential decisions he's made in his political career not
calling in the state National Guard to protect Minneapolis from
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being burned down, the fact that his wife bragged about
leaving the windows open and allowing the refuge of burning
Minneapolis to waft in so she could smell it in
some sort of strange white guilt reference, and then not
asking Tim Walls, hey coach, in retrospect, do you want to
talk about football all the time? Do you regret shutting
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down every high school athletic event in the fall of
twenty twenty and not allowing kids to play sports to
make them wear masks? Is there any part, given all
the failures of Minnesota public school kids all the time
that you kept them out of classroom, any regret about
how you handle those Those are consequential questions. Again, going
to what you said, you and I would probably get
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ripped because people would be angry that we didn't go
after the Democrats. But I think that the fair job
is to ask broad questions based on the decisions that
politicians have made and make them have to answer for them.
That's what you should do as a moderator to both sides.
As a second question, First of all, there's a hurricane
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relief effort right now that goes to the heart of
the competency or lack thereof, of this federal government to
make the question about climate change is maniacal, It is lunacy, Okay,
and this is a This is just climate change. As
I've said so many times, religious religious belief for people
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who think they're too smart for religion. Particularly climate change
is for people who don't have any material concerns in
their day to day as in, it's like the hobby
of the elites to pretend to be concerned about this
because it's a way of really virtue signaling and social signaling.
Point being clay inexcusable to have a second, what is
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the answer supposed to be climate change is real according
to the scientists.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
What is even anyone going to say of any interest,
we're going to try to bring down global climate one
degree celsius over the next fifty years. I mean, go
blank yourself, man, Like I was, like, you've got to
be kidding me. All cares.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Also, just if you want to argue climate change, and look,
I'm not trying to minimize the impact of Hurricane Helen
right now on many different communities. No hurricanes happen and
have always happened. There has nothing to do with it. Correct.
And also this is one of the least active hurricane
seasons that we have ever seen. They predicted that it
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was going to be one of the most active sighting
of course climate change, but historically we are right now
in the midst of one of the least active hurricane
seasons that we have ever seen in modern United States history.
And the fact that you would cite the one hurricane
basically that has made landfall this year as evidence of
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climate change. There are a lot of people out there
who have lived a long time that have seen an
awful lot of hurricanes, and buck the data reflects that
actually in Florida some of the most devastating hurricanes to
ever come through. I believe we're in the nineteen forties
like that was actually the decade where Florida got slammed. Now,
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there was far less people living in Florida then, But
the data doesn't even support that her hurricanes are occurring
more frequently because of climate change.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The the climate change catastrophists are wrong always and about everything,
and then they just change. It's just it's just like
some you know, fraudulent, fake profit preacher going town to
town clin you know, taking the coins out of the
hands of old ladies by promising to heal them and
then just moving to the next town. It's a scam.
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It's a scam, and that they would start with that
as the second question. I mean, how about you know
how are federal resources being allocated? How about you know
the response and whether there were preparations made and what
you no. Instead it turns into the it's always a
lecture about climate change with these lunatics. And honestly, I
feel the same way about people care about climate change
(30:47):
as I do about the mask folks now, which and
a half for a long time, which is it's not
like live and let live. You're annoying and you're wrong
and what you're doing needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But you know, also, by the way, it's super polite claim, Oh,
we can't politics, we can't politicize any tragedy. Right, every
time there is any climate disaster, and climate disasters have
been occurring throughout the history of the United States and
long before the United States was here, and yet every
time there's a hurricane, or there is a tornado, or
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there is some sort of flooding, they immediately cite. Now
it's within the opening paragraph buck of every New York
Times article I read that, oh, this is a function
of climate change. It really is unbelievable how often that
that's part of this is. And I know you'll know,
and there's so many issues.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We're gonna get into some of the other stuff here too,
But Clay, we should talk about the January sixth because
that's what the left is hanging their hat on. Is
that's where Tim Wallas won the debate. It's like he
didn't and it didn't. But I don't think anybody cares
about January sixth anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And this one, I'm gonna telling you what the talking
points Morning Joe was on this run. That's what. Yeah,
but we could we could, we could address that in
a second.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I just think when when you see this and you
hear people say this part of it is, I would
want to ask those two moderators of them neither. I mean, honestly,
they spend all their time in the makeup chair and
preparing to read the lines. They're basically actresses. Same thing
with David Weird brother. This isn't a sexist thing like
the newsreaders on these big networks. Can they do a
three hour radio show because they do a one hour
TV show that wasn't scripted off of a teleprompter.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So they shall telepropters away, they would be completely unable
to host a television show. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I believe that this is also such a difference in
the right and the left. You can pull the prompter
away from from Tucker or Hannity or Glenn. They do
a three hour show on TV or radio off the
top of their head like it's nothing, and it would
be phenomenal. It's just a whole different skill set. All
these corporate anchor types for ABCCBSNBC without their team and
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them and making sure they look perfect.
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It's just all for show man. There's no substance at all.
I would prefer do shows without teleprompters. And this is
my argument, Buck, I think the conventions would be far
more honest if you didn't allow politicians to have teleprompters either.
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Welcome In Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. It
was an incredible performance from jd Vance last night that
I think is going to have significant momentum for the
Trump Vance ticket as we roll into October. One of
(00:21):
the things that I think many people have wanted for
some time is for there to be an articulate version
of the Trump argument and Trump gets to In my opinion,
I think Bucks two the right place on many, if
not most, issues facing the country today. But he is
(00:42):
a bull in a china shop getting there, breaking all
sorts of things in the process. And if you go
back and look at much of the media attacks on Trump,
it's actually for the process, not the end result. And
what stood out to me last night, We're going to
play a lot of cuts for you, and I'm curious
to hear all of Buck's take on this as well,
(01:03):
But what stood out to me last night was jd
Vance was incredibly articulate at making arguments both for himself
and for Trump when they tried to attack him based
on what Trump had said, and Tim Walls, I just
I'm sorry, he's not up for this job. And I
(01:26):
thought as the debate went on, it probably was becoming
clearer and clearer to so many people out there that
had been sold a false bill of goods about what
jd Vance was. They tried to attack him as weird,
and I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance associated with
that as you watched this forty year old father of
(01:48):
three look completely calm, normal, steadfast, talented as he dissected
arguments and buck. To me, the ultimate big takeaway from
the VP debate at its most foundational level is it's
the most important choice that you make as president once
you're the nominee, and it tells us a lot about you.
(02:12):
The fact that Trump picked jd Vance, who is a brilliant,
stellar communicator and advocate, and Kamala Harris picked Tim Walls,
who was a doddering, buffoonish liar who actually only got picked,
I think because Josh Shapiro happens to be Jewish, and
I think we're going to get into that, and I
(02:33):
think it's going to become a larger criticism on the
left of Kala. But Kamala picked a boone. Trump picked
a stud and last night that ultimately reflected well on Trump,
and I thought poorly on Kamala. What was your kind
of big picture takeaway from last night.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I can't think of a better debate performance on the
Merits on a presidential or vice presidential stage in my
memory than what I saw from JD Vance last night. Now,
Trump has had some incredibly effective debate performances. Obviously, Joe
Biden's campaign ended after one. Trump beating all of the
(03:13):
Republicans in the twenty sixteen primary was a sight to see.
But I think we all should be honest. Trump's version
of winning the debate is a little different from what
you would think of if you had been on like
Lincoln Douglas or policy debate team in high school.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Trump is good with the one liners and the jokes
and the performance, and that's not the same kind of
thing that you saw on display last night. Look, I
thought it was a really respectful and substantive debate. I
thought that there was a nice level of decorum and
(03:49):
decency showed by both candidates. I think JD put on
a clinic on the Merits for how to disassemble your
opponent's arguments, stay on message, speak with clarity and eloquence
so he gets an A plus.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Walls from me was better than I thought he would
be Oh he was okay. He was a little better
than I thought he would be.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now that this is always about what are your expectations, right,
I thought that he would go in there where there's oh,
you know, a fancy J. D.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Waltz with his Yale degree. He didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He didn't do the mud slinging kind of idiot talking
points that I had expected. Look, he got he got
nailed on the China visit issue, which was just bizarre
the way that he handled that. But I guess he
doesn't want to say, look, I just lied, and you
guys called me the lie. There were there were a
range of areas where I think he did really poorly.
(04:46):
The only place where I think he managed to sound
like somebody who knows anything about anything was on healthcare.
To be fair, I thought that he handled Look, he's
lucky he's in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's like if you asked the governor of North the
about oil, they're gonna know oil. Minnesota is a big
healthcare state, so it was a little bit of a
sweet spot for him. The thing that I thought was
most impressive for JD.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, there's this thing that people say after debates,
and people said it after the ABC News debate, Clay,
if you're complaining about the refs, you're losing, actually not
always true, Yeah, because the refs were terrible, as in,
the moderators were absolute partisan garbage, and JD. Vance still
handily won the debate. It was three on one and
(05:33):
he smoked all three. I mean, some of the all
the framing of the questions meant to help, meant to
help Walls. The way they fact checked or you know,
they kind of corrected or whatever they want to call it,
JD and not Walls couldn't have been more obvious. Whenever
it was time to ask a follow up of Walls,
it was, what do.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You want to add to that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They're big tim you know, I mean they might as
well have been giving him a shoulder rub on the screen.
But I just want to go because I think this
is so important Clay. After the ABC News to beate,
people were, oh, you're complaining about Muir, it's because you lost.
Trump didn't look at the numbers, didn't lose that debate
by public opinion. And beyond that, the moderator was garbage.
(06:14):
The moderators in this were garbage. Brennan and whatever the
other lady's name, odn O'Donnell. They were clearly partisan hacks,
and JD Vance smoked them. So just remember that the
next time someone's like, if you're complaining about the refs, no,
it is possible to have terrible refs and win the game.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And JD did, And what he did was what I
wish Trump had done, because let's play that clip. I
think it's so important. Trump never directly confronted David Muir
and whatever the Lindsay Nelson or Davis or whatever the
heck her name was at ABC, even though they were
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constantly trying to fact check him when they tried, and
I only remember buck one time where they tried, and
was so devastating JD. Vance's response to them, which eliminated
that he understood the issue so much better than they did,
and also demonstrated just how much of partisan hacks they
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were that they had to turn off his microphone. I
thought that was the moment where he took complete control
of the debate. Let's play that for people out there.
It's the one thing I wish Trump had been willing
to do during his debate against Kamala Harris because I
think it would have brought into the open for more
people just how rigged and biased it was. But listen
(07:35):
to that from last night.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have
a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status
temporary protective maura.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But thank you, senator.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
We have so much to get to, Margaret.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I think it's important to the economy. Thanks Margaret.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
The rules were that you got in a fact check,
and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important
to say what's actually going on.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So there's an application called.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The CBP one app where you can go on as
an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole
and be granted legal status at the wave of a
Kamala Harris open border Wand that is not a person
coming in applying for a green cart and waiting for
ten years. Thank you, Senator of a legal immigration Margaret bye.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Thank you senator for describing the legal product. Have so
much ticket to the Senator, go sell the book.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Since nineteen ninety, thank you, gentlemen, the app has not
been on the books.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
There was no reasons. Yes, I agree, you know no
reason immute is Mike there? That was just sort of
spiteful garbage from these moderators. First of all, listen to
the the by the facts and by the by the reality.
It sounds like he listens to the Clay and buckshow
and immigration. I'll be honest with you talking about this
AVP one app talking about and this is what I
try to say to people, and I get frustrated. We
(09:04):
discussed this here a lot on the show. Whatever you
think the problem with a legal immigration is, it's actually
worse because Biden Harris have abused laws to bring in
even more people through what is essentially an emergency immigration
process of if you don't take me, I'm gonna die.
If you don't take me, I'm gonna be tortured. Well,
(09:24):
that's supposed to be like for an actual emergency, not
ten million or five million or however many millions of
people have come into the country. That's what they've allowed
to happen. It's critical. So I thought Clay that exchange
was important on the merits right, on the actual substance
of the policy, but also to not let them get
away with that I mean to do this little you know,
(09:46):
look off.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I mean, I was sitting watching this with I did
a bit with Tommy Layer and Pete heg Seth. We
were all watching it together and Pete's wife said, oh, man,
that's like a mom treats the kids, where you just
like Pete's kind of a allusion. Clay Well, his wife
(10:09):
was there, Who's fantastic, And she was saying, and she
used to be a producer at Fox News, but she
was saying. Her immediate reaction was and I get it.
It does remind me of what a parent does to
a toddler that is misbehaving, just turning off the mics.
But I thought it was impossible to ignore from that
point forward once he directly confronted them, first of all,
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how much smarter he is than they are. Let's be clear,
you can rip jd Vance for opinions you disagree with
him on. But the reason I thought that he would
win is I think there was a massive IQ differential
between jd Vance and Tim Walls. I think Tim Walls
is not a very smart man. I think jd Vance
are really smart. Did he come across as as likable though?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
To you?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Would you say, or more likeable than you anticipated. Walls.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, that was where I compare him to Kamala That's
what I mean. If you look at those two, Tim
Wallas is far more affable than Kamala Harris in terms of.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
One thing I was thinking Buck was if we hadn't
gotten Biden dropping out, can you imagine what jad Vance
would have done to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, that's the only part of last night that was
disappointing for me. It would have been almost worth it
just to have that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I mean, it would have been an a visceration. The
other thing I'll say, and we need to kind of
dive into this more. I also think this is why
I know people get mad when people sit for these
antagonistic interviews, but iron sharpens iron. Jd Vance was ready
for them to hit him with the most biased, the
(11:41):
most unfair, the most rigged questions because he has been
sitting for these interviews. He was prepared. He didn't need
to go through a ton of prep. And I thought
Walls when he got one actually confrontational question, crumbled because
they've tried to hide him and and actually, you do
a disservice to your candidate when you don't allow them
(12:04):
to be aggressively questioned, because then when it happens, they crumble.
It's like in sports when you don't play against any
good competition and suddenly you're down in a game. Are
you going to go and get a different level of
commitment and excellence or are you going to crumble? If
you haven't tested yourself. Most people crumble. And I thought
that's what Walls did. If he had really gotten aggressively
(12:25):
questioned Buck, I think he would have fallen apart even
worse than I thought he did under that line of
question eight.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But I really do think, and I know maybe it
sounds like I'm like, you know, mister Rogers inviting everybody
to the neighborhood or something, But it was nice to
have a debate where put us on the monter is
are trash.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We've called that out, so let's be clear.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I wish I wish we would stop this thing of
like we need to have Democrat partisans hosting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like it's radulous.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Put it on Rogan, put it on, I mean our show.
It's funny because like you know, we'd be considered right wing.
I guess whatever, fine, but he would do a phenomenal
job as moderators of it. I mean, I unbelieve. Here's
the thing. Questions don't have to be rigged. You could
just say, hey, Tim Walls, about ten million, about ten
million people have come across the border through non legal
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or sort of super legal means under Kamala's watch.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What do you think about that? And what are you
going to do about it? Going forward? Hey? JD Vance,
if Trump is president, how's he going to stop?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
That?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You can ask questions agree where the answer is what matters.
Last night it was the usual thing of like, well,
Tim Wall, since you care about women's rights to bodily
autonomy and don't want to turn them into slaves of
their wombs, you know, And then it's JD Vans, JD Van,
since you're like a misogynist pig, what do you think?
I mean, it's very obvious what they will.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And even on Hurricane Helene, it's not hey, why is
there not a more federal resources being committed? It's all
this impacts climate change? I mean, I think it was
the second friggin question that they asked to come back.
People of your people believe climate change is that level
of important, So the same mentality and the same IQ
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Speaker 1 (17:16):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I can just tell you as much as one exists,
is that JD was very skilled up there. Even those
who hate him found him very skilled. And I made
note of this on Twitter, but whenever their first criticism
is he was lying and lying and lying. If someone
doesn't tell you what a lie is, be cautious when
they start claiming that a person they don't like in
(17:38):
politics is a liar or is lying about something. They
said that about JD on Morning Joe a lot. I
was watching, of course, as I do, because they couldn't
say he's not really smart, he didn't come across really
well and he didn't kick ass, so.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know what I mean.
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They had to go with he lies, So I thought
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about JD. Vance, this big performance last night that has
given a jolt of energy to the Trump Vance campaign,
and I think has put a little bit of concern
even more into the Kamala Walls campaign and maybe probably
(19:16):
is the last time that we will hear from either
candidate on the same stage as we now sit, what
thirty four days away, five weeks and one day less
than five weeks. Thirty four days I think is right
until election Day. And Buck, I thought one of the
most uncomfortable moments that I've seen on the stage for
(19:36):
a president or vice president candidate, maybe, in fact, the
worst moment since do you remember Admiral Stockdel back in
ninety two Ross Perrot's VP debate nominee, I mean his
VP for his candidacy. It was one of the most
uncomfortable things ever. It was a three way back then
(19:57):
Al Gore, I guess it would have been Dan Quail
and Admiral Stockdale and it was just a crazy scene.
Stockdale could barely speak. And this was I thought. When
Tim Walls was directly questioned about why he lied about
being in tienam And Square, one of the worst moments
(20:18):
I've ever seen in a presidential or vice presidential debate.
It was cringe inducing and it went on a long time. Listen.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I will be the first to tell you i have
poured my heart into my community. I've tried to do
the best I can, but I've not been perfect, and
I'm a knucklehead at times. But it's always been about
that those same people elected me to Congress for twelve years.
Many times I will talk a lot, I will get
caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact
it made, the difference, it made in my life I
(20:48):
learned a lot about China, governor.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Just to follow up on that, the question was, can
you explain the noteancy.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong
and China during the democracy protest went in and from
that I learned a lot of what needed to be
in governance.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, we cut off the first part where he started
off his answer to being asked why he lied about
being in China during the Taneman Square protest by saying,
I used to ride my bike around in Nebraska. Two
and a half minutes of gobblygook that was actually uncomfortable
to watch as he slowly just collapsed and buck. What
(21:34):
I would say about this is you mentioned fact checking.
Almost all fact checking when you really get down to it,
is a dispute over political related issues and the way
they're conveyed. Lies, and I mean real lies. Tim Wallas
has had a lot of them. He lied about his
dui in his first campaign in Minnesota. He lied about
(22:00):
being in China for Tianamen Square, which is really a
strange thing to lie about. I'm curious about how you
would react to it. He lied about carrying weapons of
war in combat. He appears to have lied we had
on the sergeant major command sergeant major who took his place.
He appears to have lied about the timing on why
he didn't to deploy to Iraq with his unit after
(22:22):
being in the National Guard for so long. There are
many different clear lies that have come from Tim Walls,
and I do think that that is a symptom of
something larger as it pertains to all of these. I mean,
first of all, Buck, why would you lie about being
in Tianaman Square in June of nineteen eighty nine. If anything,
(22:45):
I would think you would lie and not want to
be there, because why would you want to say, yeah,
I was in China when they overthrew democracy protesters. If anything,
I would want to be there afterwards. It's very strange,
but I think this is symptom of all of the
lies that he's told. These are ones we just know about,
and how he's been unable to answer direct questions about them,
(23:09):
because remember they've only really let him sit for one interview,
and that was with CNN, and it was with Kamala Harris,
and he didn't really answer questions. Then when he asked
why he carried weapons of war in combat, he said
that he's bad with grammar. Now he says he's a knucklehead.
Another way to say that would be he's lied multiple
times about his past.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
There were some major areas of weakness that I think
the Democrat ticket, both Walls and Harris got away with
last night because of the moderators were if you were
if you were watching that debate and you didn't know
what was going on, like if you just were, you know,
dropped in from another country or another time period, would
(23:51):
you even know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have
been running this country in the White House for the
last four years. I mean, think of the amount of
time been on Trump and what Trump did, which is
interesting because JD. Vance wasn't on that ticket. Jad Vance
wasn't wasn't with Trump. That was over four, you know,
going on four years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now JD. Vance wasn't even in politics buck when all
of that happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But you see what I mean, they forced by the
way they set up the questions and the way that
they brought up topics and everything else. They tried to
make it a referendum on Trump's first term while protecting
the Democrat on the stage, Walls from having to speak
about how it hasn't been a good four years okay,
(24:37):
worst order ever, the thing that drives me insane is
I need in neon lights if there's another debate, Trump
or vance whatever. Ten million okay, ten million in four years,
mostly illegally, some of them getting cheap. By the way,
temporary protected status is like it's supposed to be renewed
(24:58):
every six months, okay, and the second and it's not renewed,
then you're deportable.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So this idea like.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They're here legally, they're they're here legally right now, They're
gonna be here illegally really soon. And of course Democrats
aren't gonna want to enforce that or deport them either.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's the whole game. But Clay, I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
If if Biden and Kamala Harris had had a good
four years, that would be a dominant component of you know, JD.
Van I mean, sorry, Tim Walls will be up there
saying I'm going to continue the you know, I'm gonna
finish the job. I'm gonna continue the trajectory I'm gonna
rack up more wins. You didn't even know who was
(25:39):
president last night? Did they even mention Biden? And why
hasn't anyone asked in a debate Kamala or Walls about
the enormous fraud perpetrated on the American people of Joe
Biden has dementia and Kamala knew it for a long
time and lied about it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Not only that, there are two other things that I
think if you're gonna have Tim Walls on the stage
as much as I think him lying about Tianaman Square
and putting him on the spot is is valid. Fuck.
He wasn't asked anything about the BLM riots in Minneapolis
that he allowed to occur. And he wasn't asked anything
(26:18):
at all about his COVID lockdowns, which were among the
most draconian of any state in the country. Wouldn't you think,
if you're trying to assess whether this guy deserves to
be a heartbeat away from the presidency, that the two
most consequential decisions he's made in his political career not
calling in the state National Guard to protect Minneapolis from
(26:41):
being burned down, the fact that his wife bragged about
leaving the windows open and allowing the refuge of burning
Minneapolis to waft in so she could smell it in
some sort of strange white guilt reference, and then not
asking Tim Walls, hey coach, in retrospect, do you want to
talk about football all the time? Do you regret shutting
(27:02):
down every high school athletic event in the fall of
twenty twenty and not allowing kids to play sports to
make them wear masks? Is there any part, given all
the failures of Minnesota public school kids all the time
that you kept them out of classroom, any regret about
how you handle those Those are consequential questions. Again, going
to what you said, you and I would probably get
(27:24):
ripped because people would be angry that we didn't go
after the Democrats. But I think that the fair job
is to ask broad questions based on the decisions that
politicians have made and make them have to answer for them.
That's what you should do as a moderator to both sides.
As a second question, First of all, there's a hurricane
(27:47):
relief effort right now that goes to the heart of
the competency or lack thereof, of this federal government to
make the question about climate change is maniacal, It is lunacy, Okay,
and this is a This is just climate change. As
I've said so many times, religious religious belief for people
(28:07):
who think they're too smart for religion. Particularly climate change
is for people who don't have any material concerns in
their day to day as in, it's like the hobby
of the elites to pretend to be concerned about this
because it's a way of really virtue signaling and social signaling.
Point being clay inexcusable to have a second, what is
(28:31):
the answer supposed to be climate change is real according
to the scientists.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
What is even anyone going to say of any interest,
we're going to try to bring down global climate one
degree celsius over the next fifty years. I mean, go
blank yourself, man, Like I was, like, you've got to
be kidding me. All cares.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Also, just if you want to argue climate change, and look,
I'm not trying to minimize the impact of Hurricane Helen
right now on many different communities. No hurricanes happen and
have always happened. There has nothing to do with it. Correct.
And also this is one of the least active hurricane
seasons that we have ever seen. They predicted that it
(29:11):
was going to be one of the most active sighting
of course climate change, but historically we are right now
in the midst of one of the least active hurricane
seasons that we have ever seen in modern United States history.
And the fact that you would cite the one hurricane
basically that has made landfall this year as evidence of
(29:34):
climate change. There are a lot of people out there
who have lived a long time that have seen an
awful lot of hurricanes, and buck the data reflects that
actually in Florida some of the most devastating hurricanes to
ever come through. I believe we're in the nineteen forties
like that was actually the decade where Florida got slammed. Now,
(29:54):
there was far less people living in Florida then, But
the data doesn't even support that her hurricanes are occurring
more frequently because of climate change.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The the climate change catastrophists are wrong always and about everything,
and then they just change. It's just it's just like
some you know, fraudulent, fake profit preacher going town to
town clin you know, taking the coins out of the
hands of old ladies by promising to heal them and
then just moving to the next town. It's a scam.
(30:26):
It's a scam, and that they would start with that
as the second question. I mean, how about you know
how are federal resources being allocated? How about you know
the response and whether there were preparations made and what
you no. Instead it turns into the it's always a
lecture about climate change with these lunatics. And honestly, I
feel the same way about people care about climate change
(30:47):
as I do about the mask folks now, which and
a half for a long time, which is it's not
like live and let live. You're annoying and you're wrong
and what you're doing needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But you know, also, by the way, it's super polite claim, Oh,
we can't politics, we can't politicize any tragedy. Right, every
time there is any climate disaster, and climate disasters have
been occurring throughout the history of the United States and
long before the United States was here, and yet every
time there's a hurricane, or there is a tornado, or
(31:19):
there is some sort of flooding, they immediately cite. Now
it's within the opening paragraph buck of every New York
Times article I read that, oh, this is a function
of climate change. It really is unbelievable how often that
that's part of this is. And I know you'll know,
and there's so many issues.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We're gonna get into some of the other stuff here too,
But Clay, we should talk about the January sixth because
that's what the left is hanging their hat on. Is
that's where Tim Wallas won the debate. It's like he
didn't and it didn't. But I don't think anybody cares
about January sixth anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And this one, I'm gonna telling you what the talking
points Morning Joe was on this run. That's what. Yeah,
but we could we could, we could address that in
a second.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I just think when when you see this and you
hear people say this part of it is, I would
want to ask those two moderators of them neither. I mean, honestly,
they spend all their time in the makeup chair and
preparing to read the lines. They're basically actresses. Same thing
with David Weird brother. This isn't a sexist thing like
the newsreaders on these big networks. Can they do a
three hour radio show because they do a one hour
TV show that wasn't scripted off of a teleprompter.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So they shall telepropters away, they would be completely unable
to host a television show. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I believe that this is also such a difference in
the right and the left. You can pull the prompter
away from from Tucker or Hannity or Glenn. They do
a three hour show on TV or radio off the
top of their head like it's nothing, and it would
be phenomenal. It's just a whole different skill set. All
these corporate anchor types for ABCCBSNBC without their team and
(32:53):
all the people propping them up and writing everything for
them and making sure they look perfect.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's just all for show man. There's no substance at all.
I would prefer do shows without teleprompters. And this is
my argument, Buck, I think the conventions would be far
more honest if you didn't allow politicians to have teleprompters either.
You had to get up and actually make an argument
without being able to read what somebody else wrote for
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And do we have a take some calls? Well, we've
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