May 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a high-energy breakdown of a politically charged and globally significant Mother’s Day weekend. Clay and Buck open with personal reflections before diving into a series of major developments led by former President Donald Trump. This hour covers the early framework of a new U.S.-China trade deal, a brokered ceasefire between India and Pakistan, and a potential peace negotiation between Ukraine and Russia. The hosts emphasize Trump’s active diplomacy and contrast it with what they describe as the Biden administration’s inaction.
A major focus is Trump’s executive order targeting high prescription drug prices. The hosts explore the implications for Big Pharma, healthcare affordability, and the disparity between U.S. and international drug costs. They highlight bipartisan frustration with the pharmaceutical industry and praise Trump’s move as a bold, populist step that resonates with voters across the political spectrum.
The release of American hostage Edan Alexander from Hamas custody is celebrated as a significant diplomatic win. Clay and Buck credit Trump’s administration for prioritizing American lives abroad and securing the release of hostages in hostile regions. They also discuss the controversy surrounding a luxury jet reportedly gifted by Qatar, framing it as a distraction from Trump’s broader achievements, including a reported $1 trillion in Middle East investment commitments.
Additional topics include immigration policy, with a focus on the resettlement of South African refugees, and the inefficiencies of the U.S. healthcare system. The hosts share personal anecdotes to underscore the need for reform and transparency in medical billing and insurance practices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It has been a heck of a weekend. I hope
all of you had fabulous Mother's Day. Buck with his
first ever Mother's Day weekend with his wife Carrie and
their new, brand new baby boy.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Was it awesome?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Was it a different experience to not be the son
on Mother's Day and now be the husband and the
father on Mother's Day?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I still had to call my mom mom, of course amazing. Yes,
some people are saying the best mom of all moms,
but also my wife also amazing, best mom of all moms,
So a lot of mom's action over here.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We had an awesome day, Laura, My wife, boys did
a decent job remembering Mother's Day, which is not always
the case. As many of you may know. My mom
also fabulous got to spend time with her. So I
hope all of you enjoyed a fabulous Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And what a weekend it was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I mean, in all serious, is I when we got
used to Joe Biden going to the beach at Delaware
and falling asleep and not really doing much of anything
on an entire weekend. Trump in this past weekend, if
you consider from the time basically we got to Friday,
I tweeted this out, but just think about all the
things that have happened that are of major consequence, the
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trade deal with China, which let's start off the top.
I know we've been doing market reports over the last
six or eight weeks. I hope you at minimum held
onto your stock and I hope that in a best
case scenario, you bought the dip, as I know many
of you did. The S and P five hundred up
two and a half percent. Today, the dal Jones is
(01:40):
up over was up over a thousand points, now up
around nine hundred points. All of April's downcast market results
have been reversed and we now are above where we
were going into the election week. So things have turned
in a very positive direction there. And I hope that
(02:01):
you did not fall victim to the doom and gloom
and hey, the entire country is falling apart, which many
people tried to argue in April. I hope you stood strong.
So trade deal with China, we will get into some
of the impact of that kind of a big deal.
We also had an in person meeting broker for Trump
between Ukraine and Russia. We'll see what ends up happening there. Obviously,
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we want there to be a ceasefire in peace. We
know that the Trump administration, through Marco Rubio, helped stop
a potential war between India and Pakistan, which Buck, you
talked about several weeks ago. As, Hey, this is a
story that's not getting a lot of attention, but given
the dangers and the inherent long running conflict between those
two countries with nuclear weapons, that could be an issue.
(02:45):
We got to end, hopefully to some element of big
pharm of profiteering Trump trying to take arms against those
businesses and saying, why are you price gouging the American
consumer and you're not charging anywhere near as much elsewhere.
And we now are getting the final American hostage eedon
(03:06):
Alexander released by Hamas. Any one of those would be
a huge story. All of them happened in one weekend,
and Buck, it is a testament to the fact that
Trump never stops working. He's on his way to the
Middle East right now. But after a long time where
it didn't feel like very much was being done at all,
Trump is just executing on a level that, frankly, we
(03:29):
haven't seen in a very long time. There's also the
Executive Order on prescription drugs. Did you hit that one?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Can't? I did hit it again, which I love.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think is significant and just goes with Trump making
smart decisions that aren't really political in nature, because I
think most Democrats, Republicans and Independents are frustrated about what
drug prices are. So I thought this was fascinating because
it's yet again one of those moments where just to
sort of go over this, the beginnings of a Trump
China trade deal framework. Indian Pakistan seesfire. Last US hostage.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Returned alive from hamas executive order on prescription drug prices.
The beginning of South African refugee resettlement in America also
announced over the weekend. Stephen Miller talked about that. I
think that's fascinating and I'll talk about that later on.
But the objection to you can't bring fifty white South
(04:24):
Africans to America legally, but you can bring ten million
plus people from wherever the heck else in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There's something going on there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay, there's a problem there with the way that the
Democrats and the left view are immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's putting it mildly.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So we'll discuss that claim a little bit, but just
on the prescription drug thing, this is one of these
moments where the initial the initial reactions, is it constitutional,
is he going to be able to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What's going on here? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I understand it's a big swing and maybe it doesn't
work out exactly as planned.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But here here's what I do know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Is crazy that in America we have drug companies that
are doing all this R and D billions of dollars
bringing a new drug to market. And those of you listening,
a lot of you know, you know that the drug companies,
you know how I feel about this. Yes, I'm not
talking about the COVID vaccines, but in general, the drug
companies provide drugs that we all need. Okay, people need,
(05:21):
you need your statins. You know, listen to your doctor
about some of these blood pressure medications, et cetera. They're
extending life. They're doing amazing things. G LP ones. You
see the latest data on this help with alcohol addiction
and gambling addiction as well. Big studies coming out to
show that this is short circuiting the addiction impulse.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Clay and for.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
People who don't know the GOLP, this is basically the
weight loss ozempic, which is.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Some glue tides, you know, turs epetide. All these different
drugs you see out there, there's we go v. They
have all these different names. Now it sound like I'm
doing a big armor commercial. I'm just saying there's a
lot of these drugs out there. But Clay, here's the
fundamental thing that Trump. And this is a big expense
for people, you know, the big monthly expense. And it's
when you can't you can't really get around, right. I mean,
(06:12):
if eggs are too expensive, you can go with like,
you know, a chicken of the sea, like can tuna
or something. Yes, if you're you know, hard medication is
too expensive, you got a big problem.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right. Trump sees this.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Here's what they say, though they initially jump on this
executive order and they say, oh, this is price controls,
and we they might even have someone one of the
reporters asked this question, we can pull it. But what's
fascinating to me, Clay, is we live in a country
where our drug companies it costs billions of dollars. It's
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over a billion dollars to get a new drug to market.
Our drug companies are bearing this enormous cost so that
other countries all over the world can pay ten percent.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Of what we're paying. That doesn't make sense at all.
I agree, And yeah, I think this is.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Does This is the point that but that's your reaction.
Is the reaction that every news that makes no sense.
I shouldn't be able to cross the border into Canada
and you know, get the GLP one or get the uh,
you know, lippittour or you know whatever your drug is
for thirty percent of the cost ten percent of the cost.
(07:19):
I me, it depends on which drug you're talking about it, Clay.
It's completely insane. And instead of people looking at this
and saying in the media, Wow, Trump's onto something.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
To go, oh why is he doing this?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's going to be a shock to the drug supply
chain and then no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And and also I think it just goes to Trump's
ability to take eighty twenty issues and cut across the
line whether you're Democrat, Republican or independent. And I just
look at this weekend. I think it may have been
the best weekend of the Trump administration so far. And
the amount of work that they got done and the
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amount of success that we are now all ready at
he's seeing. Trump, by the way, speaking of not ceasing
to work, has boarded Air Force one to take the
trip to the Middle East and begin the Middle East tour,
which I think is going to be filled with a
ton of positivity. Here's where they are, buck. The only
thing that I'm hearing on a negative basis coming out
(08:19):
of this weekend now is the jet from Qatar. Right like,
this is pretty much the and I imagine this will
be a huge focus and we'll get into that on
some level.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I just got back.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
This is kind of a name drop on the off
flying Air Force one. Trump is super frustrated with the
fact that it is taking forever for the new generation
of Air Force one planes to be created by Boeing,
and it is indefensible how long they have been building
this thing. And so we'll see what ends up happening
(08:54):
with the details surrounding this jet, which might be provided
by Qatar. I think the challenge in general there is
as Trump typically goes bulling and China chop shop style.
There are reports that he's going to get one trillion
dollars in investment made by all these different Middle Eastern
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countries and American based companies and growth. And I'm unfortunately
convinced that a four hundred million dollar jet, which is
a which is a tiny pinprick of the overall work
that he's going to do, is going to turn into
the media focus. That's the only negativity I would say
that you can really even point to coming out of
(09:36):
the weekend, and maybe we'll take some of your calls
on that. I do know this is coming out of
Trump's frustration with the long going and long running new
generation of Air Force one planes which Boeing has been
able to get done. So that's kind of where where
we are from from that perspective, which was I thought
an incredible Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, some big wins for the Trump administration on the
horizon and a bit of a victory lap day on Monday.
At summer there's some things, for example that the China deal,
we don't really know anything yet in specifics. We know
that it's early stage, but the markets are reacting already
to the sense that Trump really does want to make
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a deal. He actually wants to make a deal. He's
not just looking to flip over the tables and smash
everything and see what happens. Afterwards, and it again brings
us back to these fundamental recognitions or these you know,
these fundamental realities. China has been cheating on trade with
us for a long time in a way that it
comes clearly at our expense and a lot of other
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countries expense, and something should be done about it. Like
that's that's the fundamental principles. The drug thing, same idea,
Why are American drug companies charging you who listen to
this five or ten x what you can get these
drugs for and other you know, why are people flying
to Mexico.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's absolutely insane that you would go and we've done
this across the border in Mexico to buy prescription drugs
and or Canada and you can get them for a
fraction of the price. I mean, someone explain why that
makes sense in it And people are saying.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh, but now he's going to do price controls in
the drug companies. Hold on a second, A free market
in drugs would be anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Can make these drugs.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The government is the one that has to step in
and enforce intellectual property rights on these. And so the
government is already regulating this because otherwise anybody could make
the drugs, and then you hurt the incentive for the
R and D. Of course, but why is it that
we have a market that is not free and penalizes Americans.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This is the part of it, right there'd.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Be one thing you're talking about, price controls. There are
price controls other countries say you want to sell this
to our people, this is what it's going to cost,
and they go, okay, as long as we can rinse
the American people, that's fine with us.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well that shouldn't be fine with them.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Right again, you don't have to be an expert in
in the the farmerceutical industry to understand that there's something
wrong here.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
If we create the drug that is a United States
based corporation, why in the world should Americans then get
gouged on the price of this drug? And I give
them credit. You know who was actually saying, this is
a really good idea and it should happen.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Mark Cuban, your boy, Mark.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Mark Cuban and I haven't agreed on anything in a
long time. But he's got a healthcare company that he
is trying to reduce the cost of prescription drugs. And
his argument is that there's a lot of middle management
and I don't even get me started.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I mean, every single person I.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Bet listening to us, at some point in time has
had to be on the phone with their healthcare insurer
arguing about what in the world happened on a bill
or why that this charge exists the way it does,
and it's almost impossible and unintelligible, much like the tax
code is for your average American.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right, Well, it's the same, you know. I remember I
want to do an er ones and couldn't even get seen.
I had like a stomach, you know, terrible food poison.
They couldn't even get seen, so they just went home.
They charged me a thousand dollars. Oh yeah, And I
remember saying, what do you I didn't even get to
see a doctor. They said no, but we checked your
blood pressure at check in. Yeah, they're charging me a
thousand dollars to check my blood pressure and then tell
me to sit in a chair with people coughing on
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me and like bleeding all over me. Like that's not
that doesn't seem like a free market. Same thing with
these drugs, Clay, Oh okay, it cost me. You know,
a compounding pharmacy can make this stuff for pennies on
the dollar, but it should cost me ten times what
it costs in the UK same drug. Do you remember,
as many dads are, I couldn't find my health insurance
(13:40):
card because I'm somewhat incompetent. I was with one of
our kids at school.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm sorry, I had a walk in clinic, and so
they treated us as if we didn't have health insurance,
and we got billed and it was like twenty dollars
and then my wife could compare it with the ones
with with our health insurance.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Build better to be I'm sure that insured at these
hospitals sometimes, which just goes to show how perversial thing.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But look at it this way.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Better to be non American than American when it comes
to buying drugs from American companies. Yes, these are domestic,
domestically based companies.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Over the weekend, Buck, we went we'll talk about this.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. A lot
of big wins from over the weekend to talk about today.
Some excellent progress on some other issues as well. One
of them is this. We were just talking about costs
of prescription drugs. Here is Trump, this is cut four
discussing what's going to happen here with his executive order
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on prescription drug prices.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Play it for the first time in many years. We'll
slash the cost of prescription drugs, and we will bring
fairness to America. Drug prices will come down by much more. Really,
if you think fifty nine, if you think of a
drug that is sometimes ten times more expensive, it's much
more than the fifty nine percent. You know, it depends
on the way you want to analyze it. But in
one way, you could analyze it that way, but between
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fifty nine and eighty and I guess even ninety percent.
So when I worked so hard on the first term
and if I got prices down, I remember I was
the only one to ever get prices down for a
full year. But I get him down like two percent,
and I thought it was like a big deal. Well,
we're getting them down sixty seventy eighty ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Clay, this is yet another time where both sides of
the aisle, Democrat and Republican, have said prescription drug prices
in this country are too high for years. Trump actually
comes along and does something about.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And again I just I'm looking forward to hearing whether
Democrats are going to defend the price of prescription drugs,
you know, like, are they going to come out and say,
you know what, actually they do need to be high
because their general response, no matter what Trump is in
favor of, is to oppose it. And I think the
difference with Trump two point zero compared to Trump one
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and so he's just taking on so many different issues
that vast majorities of Americans agree on, like men and
women's sports is a good example.
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, a lot
of you weighing in. This is a heck of a
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weekend in terms of the incredible amount of news that
just came pouring in. And I don't think we've played
this cut yet, but I saw that the family of
Edon Alexander the last American hostage and Buck, you and
I have been talking about this forever, that the amount
of attention that was being paid to, for instance, the
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El Salvadoran illegal by Democrats, most of whom had never
acknowledged that there were Americans being held hostage. This was
from the family over the weekend. Today on Mother's Day,
and it's a picture of the family in New Jersey.
We received the greatest gift, imaginable news that our beautiful
son Edon is returning home after five hundred and eighty
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three days in captivity. We express our deepest gratitude to
President Trump, Steve Witkoff, and the US administration for their
tireless work to make this happen. We urged the Israeli
government and the negotiating teams. Please don't stop. We hope
our son to release begins negotiation for all fifty eight
remaining hostages, ending this nightmare for them and their families.
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No hostage should be left behind. And Trump spoke out
about this earlier today, about the fact that that release
was going to happen. It is cut one one of
very many things that took place over the weekend that
we're all, I think incredibly positive for all of us.
Here listen to cut one.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Very happy to announce that Ida and Alexander, an American
citizen who until recently most thought was no longer living,
thought was dead, is going to be released in about
two hours actually or sometime today, let's say. And again
they thought he was dead just a short while ago.
His parents are so happy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So buck, I mean, this is just stacking all these
different things that Trump has done an amazing job getting
Americans out of hostility and harm's way, whether it was
in Venezuela, whether it was in Russia, whether it was
in now in the Middle East. I mean, he has
been uniquely focused on getting American citizens home.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And what you see, Clay with these international wins and
or international progress on these issues there that we've been
told for a long time. I know that we all
of you know it's nonsense, But the narrative has been
something like this, Donald Trump is in Putin's pocket, and
he doesn't care about anything except where the next hotel
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is going to go. Stuff like that, right, And yet
what you see with him as president already is helping
to bring things to a ceasfire between India and Pakistan,
two nuclear armed states that have a long history.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Of problems between them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You see him celebrating the return of yet another hostage
and working to get more hostages home, trying to get
Putin and Zelensky to sit down for a ceasefire. No,
that has been reported as well. I think on Thursday
they're supposed to sit down so that that war can stop,
trying to get more international investment in America, trying to
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get things done clay that anybody could say is a
good thing and a win for the American people and
win for humanity in the cases of trying to bring
these conflicts to a cessation if possible. So these are
the realities of Trump the president, and they are coming
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up against the fairy tales. The story is really the
the you know, Boogeyman tails the nightmares that they told
about what Donald Trump would do if he was in office. Again,
which of these goals that he is pursuing, clearly, which
of these goals is not a worthy one?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Which is the one where you look at this and
you say, you know, if Donald Trump really cared about America,
he would want the war to continue between Russia and Ukraine.
He would want India and Pakistan to escalate and more
people over there to die. Of course, I think we
all understand he wants the hostages to come home. And
the media is not going to argue against that, as
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much as they may be favorable to hamas in some newsrooms.
So while all this is going on, we see the
reality of Trump. Oh and by the way, even China
on the trade deal, as I said, it's not just
some maniacal captain ahab quest to get into it with China.
He says, it's about equalizing. That was the word he
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used this morning. It's about getting us to a better
place with these countries. These are now people can quibble
about his style, of course than they do, and they
can say that they wish it was more organized or
as approach or whatever it is. These are good ideas
that are doing good things for the American people, and
the media that hates him is left to just sort
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of be in this position of rooting for failure for
things that everybody would benefit from. I guess high drug
prices would be a good thing for America.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Now, you and I have laughed about this for years now,
but the argument that they've basically returned to that Trump
is Hitler. Do you think Hitler spend a lot of
time trying to get India and Pakistan to put down
their arms? I mean, historically speaking, do you think that Zolensky,
who everybody on the left has decided is the modern
(24:24):
day version of Winston Churchill, right, the indisputable, unbelievable hero.
You see BACKI just said, can Trump please be in
Turkey in Istanbul to help with negotiating with Vladimir Putin?
I don't even know how people respond to this who
are on the left that have tried to argue, oh,
Trump is Hitler. To have Zolensky publicly saying, hey, I
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hope in the middle of his Middle East trip that
Trump will take the time to come and help to
bring peace in Europe.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I mean, it's not gonna get very much attention, But
if Zolensky had begged Joe Biden to come and mediate
a peace agreement, there would have been headlines everywhere. Instead,
this is largely sliding under the radar. But it's indicative
of a decent relationship between Trump and Zelensky that I think,
despite what happened in Noval office in February, a lot
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of people saw at the Pope's funeral the conversation that
these two guys had. Trump is working the phones all
the time, and Trump is trying to get a deal done,
and sometimes that means he has to say bad things
about Zolensky, and sometimes it means that he has to
say bad things about Putin and good things about each
as well. Because if you go in, as we said, Buck,
and you just say Ukraine is the hero here, Ukraine
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is the good guy, Russia is evil, You're never gonna
get any kind of agreement.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
He's a mediator, and.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Anybody who's ever been involved in mediation knows the mediator's
going from one room to the other, and they don't
always say everything that's being told behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, well, again, look at the results. Look at the
results that Biden achieved that we saw when he was
president on the world stage, to the degree that he
was actually calling any of the shots and that he
was aware of where he was and you know, put
aside all of the dementia concerns for or at least
know that we know about those, right. So what I
mean you have to refer to the Biden administration. I
(26:18):
understand that some of you are going to point out,
but Joe wasn't really okay, but the machine, this is
what Biden's team and the Biden machinery managed. What are
they managed with Russia Ukraine? Nothing other than the perpetuation
of bloodshed, massive expense to the US taxpayer and no
(26:39):
end in sight. And a lot of people feeling tough
about themselves putting Ukraine flags up on their Facebook profiles
or on Twitter whatever. That doesn't actually help anybody that
was not I haven't even gotten to Afghanistan, the Afghanistan withdrawal.
I mean, you look at the results of the Biden
approach on the world stage.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's supposed to be his strong suit.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You Biden was put on the Obama ticket back in
two thousand and nine. Believe it or not for his
steady hand and knowledge and foreign policy. Probably the worst record,
and I really mean this, the worst record on the
world stage of any statesman from America, at least in
our lifetime. I mean, Joe Biden was catastrophically wrong about
(27:20):
everything at every point that it mattered. And everybody in
DC has always known that, just like they knew that
he had dementia. But put as I said that aside
for a moment, look at what Trump is achieving, look
at what Biden is look at what Biden achieved. And
that's you know, putting it in a way that I
think we probably should find other words for. And this
is why I think they're left doing stuff like this here, Clay,
(27:42):
we've got they're upset over this, this report that Cutter
is going to be giving some kind of app you know,
they're going to be giving a plan. I have to
read more of the details of this, to be honest
with you, because I've seen some conflicting reports. But this
is cut twenty six.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Play it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Why you saying, people who you got luxury jet as
a person all get to you?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Why not leave it?
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You're ABC fake news, right, because only ABC, well a
few of you would, let me tell you, you should
be embarrassed to ask him their question. They're giving us
a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't
give us. I want to pay you a billion or
four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I could
say thank you very much. You know, there was an
(28:27):
old golfer named Sam Sneed. Did you ever hear you
won ADQ tournaments? Was a great golfer, and he had
a motto. When they give you a putt, you say
thank you very much, You pick up your ball, and
you walk to the next hole. A lot of people
are stupid. They say no, no, I insist on putting it,
and then they put it and they miss it and
their partner gets angry at them. You know what, remember
(28:47):
that Sam Snead. When they give you a putt, you
pick it up, and you walk to the next hole,
and you say thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Have you ever been given a gift worth millions of
dollars in an Ox's.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Not a gift to me, It's a gift to the
Apartment of Defense. And you should know better because you've
been embarrassed enough, and so has your network. Your network
is a disaster. ABC is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just think this is going to be the focal point,
and this is how it goes with Trump. We're going
to get a trillion dollars in investment commitment capital from
the Middle East, according to the reports that I have read,
and the government overwhelmingly is going to focus on this
guitar jet now four hundred million dollars reported jet.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Again.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
To me, this is emblematic of Trump's frustration with Boeing
and their inability to actually get the new Air Force
one jets completed the government's fleet, and I understand people
are going to be concerned. They're going to say, hey,
is this the right choice to make. To me, it's
not worth the negative attention. This would be my general
(29:52):
proposition on it, because there's so much positivity. But also
Trump actually knows airplanes pretty well. U I was on
Air Force one and it feels like an air It's
a very cool aircraft. I'm not to changing a shot
at it, but it feels like something that was built
in the nineteen eighties. We shouldn't have gone forty years
between new Air Force one aircraft. That is a huge
(30:15):
failure of Boeing. Trump is just fed up with the
speed of government. And what he's doing is he's saying, well,
why can't we have a better quality, safer aircraft? And
if we're not going to have it, then I'll use
this one in the meantime and maybe it'll pressure Boeing
to finally finish the new generation of Air Force one craft, which.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Was supposed to be done like a decade ago. Buck.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, it is kind of indefensible that Boeing has
been paid billions of dollars and still hasn't delivered.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Boeing has had huge problems for many years, as you know,
and it's unfortunately, I think, indicative of some of the
the high level manufacturing decline in this country. And really, look,
but Boeing used to be the gold stand of making
planes that are incredibly safe, and it has lost some steps,
(31:06):
and there are a few reasons why. I think one
of them is the financialization, if you will, of.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Boeing moving it away.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think, well, initially it was in Seattle, right, and
then they moved it to Chicago. The headquarters became a
little bit too focused on quarterly stock price and not
as much on making the best, safest planes and other
things imaginable. And then of course there's the DEI component
of it as well, which people can talk about and
decide how much they think that's influenced it. But yeah, again,
(31:34):
I wonder at this point, so if Cutter is going
to give use of this plane or going to give
this plane so that it can be transferred into air Force,
one people would rather the administration pay for it?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Is that? Is that?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What is the position of the criticism or those who
are critiquing this is he shouldn't accept this on behalf
of the presidency because it's buying off his interest toward Cutter,
or rather it's making him too favorable toward Cutter.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Is that really? Like? What is the the only.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Argument, and you would know better than me, is allowing
a foreign company to make a jet could create security
related concerns, right, And I'm assuming that we have high
level sweeping that takes place before the president gets on anything,
but I'm talking about listening devices things like that. That's
(32:27):
the only criticism of this I can see having any basis.
In fact, I'm not saying that I buy it because
I think we'd be able to vet the plane before
the president goes on, as they vet every plane before
the president gets goes on. But that's the only thing
I can possibly think could be played here.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I just I mean, you know, maybe we should give
back the Statue of Liberty too. You know, France bought
us off. France, you you scoundrels with your Statue of
Liberty that sits in New York Harbor, paid for by
the people.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Friends. We didn't we didn't pay the Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm just saying I got to get it back.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It is funny that we're going to get a trillion
dollars in benefit from this travel and a four hundred
million dollar jet is going to be the headline for
huge numbers of legacy media.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Another thing that's tiresome is Trump is worth billions of dollars.
The idea that any country or any person is going
to be able to just do some something that is
a mine, you know, not going to change Trump's life
in any meaningful way whatsoever, but they're going to buy
him off.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I just think is preposterous.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
The westiest president we've ever had is the least susceptible,
in my opinion, to being bought off than any president
we've ever had. This is one of the reasons Trump
had such appeal. I think initially when he came down
the escalator in twenty fifteen, Buck is because I think
a lot like.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Elon said about Putin.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Can that's right? Can Putin be bought? Can Putin buy
off Elon?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Because he can't afford him? Okay, because Elon has more
money than show on the planet.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Such a baller line for people who missed that. Elon said,
I can't be bought off because Putin doesn't have enough money,
which is amazing.
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
It has been a heck of a weekend. I hope
all of you had fabulous Mother's Day. Buck with his
first ever Mother's Day weekend with his wife Carrie and
their new, brand new baby boy.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Was it awesome?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Was it a different experience to not be the son
on Mother's Day and now be the husband and the
father on Mother's Day?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I still had to call my mom mom, of course amazing. Yes,
some people are saying the best mom of all moms,
but also my wife also amazing, best mom of all moms,
So a lot of mom's action over here.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We had an awesome day, Laura, My wife, boys did
a decent job remembering Mother's Day, which is not always
the case. As many of you may know. My mom
also fabulous got to spend time with her. So I
hope all of you enjoyed a fabulous Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And what a weekend it was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I mean, in all serious, is I when we got
used to Joe Biden going to the beach at Delaware
and falling asleep and not really doing much of anything
on an entire weekend. Trump in this past weekend, if
you consider from the time basically we got to Friday,
I tweeted this out, but just think about all the
things that have happened that are of major consequence, the
(01:18):
trade deal with China, which let's start off the top.
I know we've been doing market reports over the last
six or eight weeks. I hope you at minimum held
onto your stock and I hope that in a best
case scenario, you bought the dip, as I know many
of you did. The S and P five hundred up
two and a half percent. Today, the dal Jones is
(01:40):
up over was up over a thousand points, now up
around nine hundred points. All of April's downcast market results
have been reversed and we now are above where we
were going into the election week. So things have turned
in a very positive direction there. And I hope that
(02:01):
you did not fall victim to the doom and gloom
and hey, the entire country is falling apart, which many
people tried to argue in April. I hope you stood strong.
So trade deal with China, we will get into some
of the impact of that kind of a big deal.
We also had an in person meeting broker for Trump
between Ukraine and Russia. We'll see what ends up happening there. Obviously,
(02:23):
we want there to be a ceasefire in peace. We
know that the Trump administration, through Marco Rubio, helped stop
a potential war between India and Pakistan, which Buck, you
talked about several weeks ago. As, Hey, this is a
story that's not getting a lot of attention, but given
the dangers and the inherent long running conflict between those
two countries with nuclear weapons, that could be an issue.
(02:45):
We got to end, hopefully to some element of big
pharm of profiteering Trump trying to take arms against those
businesses and saying, why are you price gouging the American
consumer and you're not charging anywhere near as much elsewhere.
And we now are getting the final American hostage eedon
(03:06):
Alexander released by Hamas. Any one of those would be
a huge story. All of them happened in one weekend,
and Buck, it is a testament to the fact that
Trump never stops working. He's on his way to the
Middle East right now. But after a long time where
it didn't feel like very much was being done at all,
Trump is just executing on a level that, frankly, we
(03:29):
haven't seen in a very long time. There's also the
Executive Order on prescription drugs. Did you hit that one?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Can't? I did hit it again, which I love.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think is significant and just goes with Trump making
smart decisions that aren't really political in nature, because I
think most Democrats, Republicans and Independents are frustrated about what
drug prices are. So I thought this was fascinating because
it's yet again one of those moments where just to
sort of go over this, the beginnings of a Trump
China trade deal framework. Indian Pakistan seesfire. Last US hostage.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Returned alive from hamas executive order on prescription drug prices.
The beginning of South African refugee resettlement in America also
announced over the weekend. Stephen Miller talked about that. I
think that's fascinating and I'll talk about that later on.
But the objection to you can't bring fifty white South
(04:24):
Africans to America legally, but you can bring ten million
plus people from wherever the heck else in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There's something going on there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay, there's a problem there with the way that the
Democrats and the left view are immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's putting it mildly.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So we'll discuss that claim a little bit, but just
on the prescription drug thing, this is one of these
moments where the initial the initial reactions, is it constitutional,
is he going to be able to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What's going on here? Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I understand it's a big swing and maybe it doesn't
work out exactly as planned.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But here here's what I do know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Is crazy that in America we have drug companies that
are doing all this R and D billions of dollars
bringing a new drug to market. And those of you listening,
a lot of you know, you know that the drug companies,
you know how I feel about this. Yes, I'm not
talking about the COVID vaccines, but in general, the drug
companies provide drugs that we all need. Okay, people need,
(05:21):
you need your statins. You know, listen to your doctor
about some of these blood pressure medications, et cetera. They're
extending life. They're doing amazing things. G LP ones. You
see the latest data on this help with alcohol addiction
and gambling addiction as well. Big studies coming out to
show that this is short circuiting the addiction impulse.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Clay and for.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
People who don't know the GOLP, this is basically the
weight loss ozempic, which is.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Some glue tides, you know, turs epetide. All these different
drugs you see out there, there's we go v. They
have all these different names. Now it sound like I'm
doing a big armor commercial. I'm just saying there's a
lot of these drugs out there. But Clay, here's the
fundamental thing that Trump. And this is a big expense
for people, you know, the big monthly expense. And it's
when you can't you can't really get around, right. I mean,
(06:12):
if eggs are too expensive, you can go with like,
you know, a chicken of the sea, like can tuna
or something. Yes, if you're you know, hard medication is
too expensive, you got a big problem.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right. Trump sees this.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Here's what they say, though they initially jump on this
executive order and they say, oh, this is price controls,
and we they might even have someone one of the
reporters asked this question, we can pull it. But what's
fascinating to me, Clay, is we live in a country
where our drug companies it costs billions of dollars. It's
(06:46):
over a billion dollars to get a new drug to market.
Our drug companies are bearing this enormous cost so that
other countries all over the world can pay ten percent.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Of what we're paying. That doesn't make sense at all.
I agree, And yeah, I think this is.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Does This is the point that but that's your reaction.
Is the reaction that every news that makes no sense.
I shouldn't be able to cross the border into Canada
and you know, get the GLP one or get the uh,
you know, lippittour or you know whatever your drug is
for thirty percent of the cost ten percent of the cost.
(07:19):
I me, it depends on which drug you're talking about it, Clay.
It's completely insane. And instead of people looking at this
and saying in the media, Wow, Trump's onto something.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
To go, oh why is he doing this?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's going to be a shock to the drug supply
chain and then no doubt.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And and also I think it just goes to Trump's
ability to take eighty twenty issues and cut across the
line whether you're Democrat, Republican or independent. And I just
look at this weekend. I think it may have been
the best weekend of the Trump administration so far. And
the amount of work that they got done and the
(07:56):
amount of success that we are now all ready at
he's seeing. Trump, by the way, speaking of not ceasing
to work, has boarded Air Force one to take the
trip to the Middle East and begin the Middle East tour,
which I think is going to be filled with a
ton of positivity. Here's where they are, buck. The only
thing that I'm hearing on a negative basis coming out
(08:19):
of this weekend now is the jet from Qatar. Right like,
this is pretty much the and I imagine this will
be a huge focus and we'll get into that on
some level.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I just got back.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
This is kind of a name drop on the off
flying Air Force one. Trump is super frustrated with the
fact that it is taking forever for the new generation
of Air Force one planes to be created by Boeing,
and it is indefensible how long they have been building
this thing. And so we'll see what ends up happening
(08:54):
with the details surrounding this jet, which might be provided
by Qatar. I think the challenge in general there is
as Trump typically goes bulling and China chop shop style.
There are reports that he's going to get one trillion
dollars in investment made by all these different Middle Eastern
(09:14):
countries and American based companies and growth. And I'm unfortunately
convinced that a four hundred million dollar jet, which is
a which is a tiny pinprick of the overall work
that he's going to do, is going to turn into
the media focus. That's the only negativity I would say
that you can really even point to coming out of
(09:36):
the weekend, and maybe we'll take some of your calls
on that. I do know this is coming out of
Trump's frustration with the long going and long running new
generation of Air Force one planes which Boeing has been
able to get done. So that's kind of where where
we are from from that perspective, which was I thought
an incredible Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, some big wins for the Trump administration on the
horizon and a bit of a victory lap day on Monday.
At summer there's some things, for example that the China deal,
we don't really know anything yet in specifics. We know
that it's early stage, but the markets are reacting already
to the sense that Trump really does want to make
(10:18):
a deal. He actually wants to make a deal. He's
not just looking to flip over the tables and smash
everything and see what happens. Afterwards, and it again brings
us back to these fundamental recognitions or these you know,
these fundamental realities. China has been cheating on trade with
us for a long time in a way that it
comes clearly at our expense and a lot of other
(10:39):
countries expense, and something should be done about it. Like
that's that's the fundamental principles. The drug thing, same idea,
Why are American drug companies charging you who listen to
this five or ten x what you can get these
drugs for and other you know, why are people flying
to Mexico.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's absolutely insane that you would go and we've done
this across the border in Mexico to buy prescription drugs
and or Canada and you can get them for a
fraction of the price. I mean, someone explain why that
makes sense in it And people are saying.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh, but now he's going to do price controls in
the drug companies. Hold on a second, A free market
in drugs would be anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Can make these drugs.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The government is the one that has to step in
and enforce intellectual property rights on these. And so the
government is already regulating this because otherwise anybody could make
the drugs, and then you hurt the incentive for the
R and D. Of course, but why is it that
we have a market that is not free and penalizes Americans.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This is the part of it, right there'd.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Be one thing you're talking about, price controls. There are
price controls other countries say you want to sell this
to our people, this is what it's going to cost,
and they go, okay, as long as we can rinse
the American people, that's fine with us.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well that shouldn't be fine with them.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Right again, you don't have to be an expert in
in the the farmerceutical industry to understand that there's something
wrong here.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
If we create the drug that is a United States
based corporation, why in the world should Americans then get
gouged on the price of this drug? And I give
them credit. You know who was actually saying, this is
a really good idea and it should happen.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Mark Cuban, your boy, Mark.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Mark Cuban and I haven't agreed on anything in a
long time. But he's got a healthcare company that he
is trying to reduce the cost of prescription drugs. And
his argument is that there's a lot of middle management
and I don't even get me started.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I mean, every single person I.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Bet listening to us, at some point in time has
had to be on the phone with their healthcare insurer
arguing about what in the world happened on a bill
or why that this charge exists the way it does,
and it's almost impossible and unintelligible, much like the tax
code is for your average American.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right, Well, it's the same, you know. I remember I
want to do an er ones and couldn't even get seen.
I had like a stomach, you know, terrible food poison.
They couldn't even get seen, so they just went home.
They charged me a thousand dollars. Oh yeah, And I
remember saying, what do you I didn't even get to
see a doctor. They said no, but we checked your
blood pressure at check in. Yeah, they're charging me a
thousand dollars to check my blood pressure and then tell
me to sit in a chair with people coughing on
(13:19):
me and like bleeding all over me. Like that's not
that doesn't seem like a free market. Same thing with
these drugs, Clay, Oh okay, it cost me. You know,
a compounding pharmacy can make this stuff for pennies on
the dollar, but it should cost me ten times what
it costs in the UK same drug. Do you remember,
as many dads are, I couldn't find my health insurance
(13:40):
card because I'm somewhat incompetent. I was with one of
our kids at school.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm sorry, I had a walk in clinic, and so
they treated us as if we didn't have health insurance,
and we got billed and it was like twenty dollars
and then my wife could compare it with the ones
with with our health insurance.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Build better to be I'm sure that insured at these
hospitals sometimes, which just goes to show how perversial thing.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But look at it this way.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Better to be non American than American when it comes
to buying drugs from American companies. Yes, these are domestic,
domestically based companies.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
This is insane.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Over the weekend, Buck, we went we'll talk about this.
Laura wanted to shoot guns. This was what she wanted to.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Do with awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yet I am very proud of the Travis family this weekend,
very proud.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Shared a couple of videos with Buck. The boys loved it.
We had a great instructor and we're on the road
and there isn't great cell phone reception there, so my
wife took our rapid radios with us. In the event
that we were in rural West Tennessee that we might
have needed an ability to get in touch, we had
our rapid radios with us. These are modern day walkie talkies.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. A lot
of big wins from over the weekend to talk about today.
Some excellent progress on some other issues as well. One
of them is this. We were just talking about costs
of prescription drugs. Here is Trump, this is cut four
discussing what's going to happen here with his executive order
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on prescription drug prices.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Play it for the first time in many years. We'll
slash the cost of prescription drugs, and we will bring
fairness to America. Drug prices will come down by much more. Really,
if you think fifty nine, if you think of a
drug that is sometimes ten times more expensive, it's much
more than the fifty nine percent. You know, it depends
on the way you want to analyze it. But in
one way, you could analyze it that way, but between
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fifty nine and eighty and I guess even ninety percent.
So when I worked so hard on the first term
and if I got prices down, I remember I was
the only one to ever get prices down for a
full year. But I get him down like two percent,
and I thought it was like a big deal. Well,
we're getting them down sixty seventy eighty ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Clay, this is yet another time where both sides of
the aisle, Democrat and Republican, have said prescription drug prices
in this country are too high for years. Trump actually
comes along and does something about.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And again I just I'm looking forward to hearing whether
Democrats are going to defend the price of prescription drugs,
you know, like, are they going to come out and say,
you know what, actually they do need to be high
because their general response, no matter what Trump is in
favor of, is to oppose it. And I think the
difference with Trump two point zero compared to Trump one
(17:42):
point oh is Trump has gotten wise to the game,
and so he's just taking on so many different issues
that vast majorities of Americans agree on, like men and
women's sports is a good example.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
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see a substantial, first ever initiative by the White House
the creation of a sovereign wealth fund for all Americans benefit.
There are experts who believe our nation has an asset
that could be worth as much as one hundred and
fifty trillion dollars. That asset has been buried under American
soil and could be the basis for creating such a fund.
This endowment is so large it could pay off our
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, a lot
of you weighing in. This is a heck of a
(18:59):
weekend in terms of the incredible amount of news that
just came pouring in. And I don't think we've played
this cut yet, but I saw that the family of
Edon Alexander the last American hostage and Buck, you and
I have been talking about this forever, that the amount
of attention that was being paid to, for instance, the
(19:22):
El Salvadoran illegal by Democrats, most of whom had never
acknowledged that there were Americans being held hostage. This was
from the family over the weekend. Today on Mother's Day,
and it's a picture of the family in New Jersey.
We received the greatest gift, imaginable news that our beautiful
son Edon is returning home after five hundred and eighty
(19:44):
three days in captivity. We express our deepest gratitude to
President Trump, Steve Witkoff, and the US administration for their
tireless work to make this happen. We urged the Israeli
government and the negotiating teams. Please don't stop. We hope
our son to release begins negotiation for all fifty eight
remaining hostages, ending this nightmare for them and their families.
(20:08):
No hostage should be left behind. And Trump spoke out
about this earlier today, about the fact that that release
was going to happen. It is cut one one of
very many things that took place over the weekend that
we're all, I think incredibly positive for all of us.
Here listen to cut one.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Very happy to announce that Ida and Alexander, an American
citizen who until recently most thought was no longer living,
thought was dead, is going to be released in about
two hours actually or sometime today, let's say. And again
they thought he was dead just a short while ago.
His parents are so happy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So buck, I mean, this is just stacking all these
different things that Trump has done an amazing job getting
Americans out of hostility and harm's way, whether it was
in Venezuela, whether it was in Russia, whether it was
in now in the Middle East. I mean, he has
been uniquely focused on getting American citizens home.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And what you see, Clay with these international wins and
or international progress on these issues there that we've been
told for a long time. I know that we all
of you know it's nonsense, But the narrative has been
something like this, Donald Trump is in Putin's pocket, and
he doesn't care about anything except where the next hotel
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is going to go. Stuff like that, right, And yet
what you see with him as president already is helping
to bring things to a ceasfire between India and Pakistan,
two nuclear armed states that have a long history.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Of problems between them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You see him celebrating the return of yet another hostage
and working to get more hostages home, trying to get
Putin and Zelensky to sit down for a ceasefire. No,
that has been reported as well. I think on Thursday
they're supposed to sit down so that that war can stop,
trying to get more international investment in America, trying to
(22:16):
get things done clay that anybody could say is a
good thing and a win for the American people and
win for humanity in the cases of trying to bring
these conflicts to a cessation if possible. So these are
the realities of Trump the president, and they are coming
(22:36):
up against the fairy tales. The story is really the
the you know, Boogeyman tails the nightmares that they told
about what Donald Trump would do if he was in office. Again,
which of these goals that he is pursuing, clearly, which
of these goals is not a worthy one?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Which is the one where you look at this and
you say, you know, if Donald Trump really cared about America,
he would want the war to continue between Russia and Ukraine.
He would want India and Pakistan to escalate and more
people over there to die. Of course, I think we
all understand he wants the hostages to come home. And
the media is not going to argue against that, as
(23:16):
much as they may be favorable to hamas in some newsrooms.
So while all this is going on, we see the
reality of Trump. Oh and by the way, even China
on the trade deal, as I said, it's not just
some maniacal captain ahab quest to get into it with China.
He says, it's about equalizing. That was the word he
(23:36):
used this morning. It's about getting us to a better
place with these countries. These are now people can quibble
about his style, of course than they do, and they
can say that they wish it was more organized or
as approach or whatever it is. These are good ideas
that are doing good things for the American people, and
the media that hates him is left to just sort
(23:56):
of be in this position of rooting for failure for
things that everybody would benefit from. I guess high drug
prices would be a good thing for America.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Now, you and I have laughed about this for years now,
but the argument that they've basically returned to that Trump
is Hitler. Do you think Hitler spend a lot of
time trying to get India and Pakistan to put down
their arms? I mean, historically speaking, do you think that Zolensky,
who everybody on the left has decided is the modern
(24:24):
day version of Winston Churchill, right, the indisputable, unbelievable hero.
You see BACKI just said, can Trump please be in
Turkey in Istanbul to help with negotiating with Vladimir Putin?
I don't even know how people respond to this who
are on the left that have tried to argue, oh,
Trump is Hitler. To have Zolensky publicly saying, hey, I
(24:49):
hope in the middle of his Middle East trip that
Trump will take the time to come and help to
bring peace in Europe.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I mean, it's not gonna get very much attention, But
if Zolensky had begged Joe Biden to come and mediate
a peace agreement, there would have been headlines everywhere. Instead,
this is largely sliding under the radar. But it's indicative
of a decent relationship between Trump and Zelensky that I think,
despite what happened in Noval office in February, a lot
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of people saw at the Pope's funeral the conversation that
these two guys had. Trump is working the phones all
the time, and Trump is trying to get a deal done,
and sometimes that means he has to say bad things
about Zolensky, and sometimes it means that he has to
say bad things about Putin and good things about each
as well. Because if you go in, as we said, Buck,
and you just say Ukraine is the hero here, Ukraine
(25:42):
is the good guy, Russia is evil, You're never gonna
get any kind of agreement.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
He's a mediator, and.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Anybody who's ever been involved in mediation knows the mediator's
going from one room to the other, and they don't
always say everything that's being told behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, well, again, look at the results. Look at the
results that Biden achieved that we saw when he was
president on the world stage, to the degree that he
was actually calling any of the shots and that he
was aware of where he was and you know, put
aside all of the dementia concerns for or at least
know that we know about those, right. So what I
mean you have to refer to the Biden administration. I
(26:18):
understand that some of you are going to point out,
but Joe wasn't really okay, but the machine, this is
what Biden's team and the Biden machinery managed. What are
they managed with Russia Ukraine? Nothing other than the perpetuation
of bloodshed, massive expense to the US taxpayer and no
(26:39):
end in sight. And a lot of people feeling tough
about themselves putting Ukraine flags up on their Facebook profiles
or on Twitter whatever. That doesn't actually help anybody that
was not I haven't even gotten to Afghanistan, the Afghanistan withdrawal.
I mean, you look at the results of the Biden
approach on the world stage.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's supposed to be his strong suit.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You Biden was put on the Obama ticket back in
two thousand and nine. Believe it or not for his
steady hand and knowledge and foreign policy. Probably the worst record,
and I really mean this, the worst record on the
world stage of any statesman from America, at least in
our lifetime. I mean, Joe Biden was catastrophically wrong about
(27:20):
everything at every point that it mattered. And everybody in
DC has always known that, just like they knew that
he had dementia. But put as I said that aside
for a moment, look at what Trump is achieving, look
at what Biden is look at what Biden achieved. And
that's you know, putting it in a way that I
think we probably should find other words for. And this
is why I think they're left doing stuff like this here, Clay,
(27:42):
we've got they're upset over this, this report that Cutter
is going to be giving some kind of app you know,
they're going to be giving a plan. I have to
read more of the details of this, to be honest
with you, because I've seen some conflicting reports. But this
is cut twenty six.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Play it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Why you saying, people who you got luxury jet as
a person all get to you?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Why not leave it?
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You're ABC fake news, right, because only ABC, well a
few of you would, let me tell you, you should
be embarrassed to ask him their question. They're giving us
a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't
give us. I want to pay you a billion or
four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I could
say thank you very much. You know, there was an
(28:27):
old golfer named Sam Sneed. Did you ever hear you
won ADQ tournaments? Was a great golfer, and he had
a motto. When they give you a putt, you say
thank you very much, You pick up your ball, and
you walk to the next hole. A lot of people
are stupid. They say no, no, I insist on putting it,
and then they put it and they miss it and
their partner gets angry at them. You know what, remember
(28:47):
that Sam Snead. When they give you a putt, you
pick it up, and you walk to the next hole,
and you say thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Have you ever been given a gift worth millions of
dollars in an Ox's.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Not a gift to me, It's a gift to the
Apartment of Defense. And you should know better because you've
been embarrassed enough, and so has your network. Your network
is a disaster. ABC is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I just think this is going to be the focal point,
and this is how it goes with Trump. We're going
to get a trillion dollars in investment commitment capital from
the Middle East, according to the reports that I have read,
and the government overwhelmingly is going to focus on this
guitar jet now four hundred million dollars reported jet.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Again.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
To me, this is emblematic of Trump's frustration with Boeing
and their inability to actually get the new Air Force
one jets completed the government's fleet, and I understand people
are going to be concerned. They're going to say, hey,
is this the right choice to make. To me, it's
not worth the negative attention. This would be my general
(29:52):
proposition on it, because there's so much positivity. But also
Trump actually knows airplanes pretty well. U I was on
Air Force one and it feels like an air It's
a very cool aircraft. I'm not to changing a shot
at it, but it feels like something that was built
in the nineteen eighties. We shouldn't have gone forty years
between new Air Force one aircraft. That is a huge
(30:15):
failure of Boeing. Trump is just fed up with the
speed of government. And what he's doing is he's saying, well,
why can't we have a better quality, safer aircraft? And
if we're not going to have it, then I'll use
this one in the meantime and maybe it'll pressure Boeing
to finally finish the new generation of Air Force one craft, which.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Was supposed to be done like a decade ago. Buck.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, it is kind of indefensible that Boeing has
been paid billions of dollars and still hasn't delivered.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Boeing has had huge problems for many years, as you know,
and it's unfortunately, I think, indicative of some of the
the high level manufacturing decline in this country. And really, look,
but Boeing used to be the gold stand of making
planes that are incredibly safe, and it has lost some steps,
(31:06):
and there are a few reasons why. I think one
of them is the financialization, if you will, of.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Boeing moving it away.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think, well, initially it was in Seattle, right, and
then they moved it to Chicago. The headquarters became a
little bit too focused on quarterly stock price and not
as much on making the best, safest planes and other
things imaginable. And then of course there's the DEI component
of it as well, which people can talk about and
decide how much they think that's influenced it. But yeah, again,
(31:34):
I wonder at this point, so if Cutter is going
to give use of this plane or going to give
this plane so that it can be transferred into air Force,
one people would rather the administration pay for it?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Is that? Is that?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What is the position of the criticism or those who
are critiquing this is he shouldn't accept this on behalf
of the presidency because it's buying off his interest toward Cutter,
or rather it's making him too favorable toward Cutter.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Is that really? Like? What is the the only.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Argument, and you would know better than me, is allowing
a foreign company to make a jet could create security
related concerns, right, And I'm assuming that we have high
level sweeping that takes place before the president gets on anything,
but I'm talking about listening devices things like that. That's
(32:27):
the only criticism of this I can see having any basis.
In fact, I'm not saying that I buy it because
I think we'd be able to vet the plane before
the president goes on, as they vet every plane before
the president gets goes on. But that's the only thing
I can possibly think could be played here.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I just I mean, you know, maybe we should give
back the Statue of Liberty too. You know, France bought
us off. France, you you scoundrels with your Statue of
Liberty that sits in New York Harbor, paid for by
the people.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Friends. We didn't we didn't pay the Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm just saying I got to get it back.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It is funny that we're going to get a trillion
dollars in benefit from this travel and a four hundred
million dollar jet is going to be the headline for
huge numbers of legacy media.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Another thing that's tiresome is Trump is worth billions of dollars.
The idea that any country or any person is going
to be able to just do some something that is
a mine, you know, not going to change Trump's life
in any meaningful way whatsoever, but they're going to buy
him off.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I just think is preposterous.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
The westiest president we've ever had is the least susceptible,
in my opinion, to being bought off than any president
we've ever had. This is one of the reasons Trump
had such appeal. I think initially when he came down
the escalator in twenty fifteen, Buck is because I think
a lot like.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Elon said about Putin.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Can that's right? Can Putin be bought? Can Putin buy
off Elon?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Because he can't afford him? Okay, because Elon has more
money than show on the planet.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Such a baller line for people who missed that. Elon said,
I can't be bought off because Putin doesn't have enough money,
which is amazing.
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