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November 8, 2024 36 mins
CBS' John Dickerson cries trying to explain election to his teenager. MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace says she deleted her X account. Alex Berenson on Trump, lib reaction. How did Biden possibly get 81 million votes in 2020? PBS reporter blames Harris loss on right-wing media ecosystem. Axios writer suggests liberals listen to Joe Rogan and read X.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
All Right, our two Clay En Buck Friday Victory Week.
I think we're just declaring it Maga victory week, Trump
victory week. It is a great time to be alive,
to be an American, and particularly to be a Trump voter.
The good one, folks. As good as it gets. I
don't know if it's ever going to get any better.
I'm just telling you right now. You might see a

(00:26):
couple more elections, you might see twenty more elections, but
I don't know if there's going to be one that
is more satisfying under the circumstances than this.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
So take it in, enjoy it. You know, this weekend,
the battle looms in the future.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The work that remains to be done is massive, but
it is I think also invigorating to know what the
future holds. So, you know, this weekend really takes some
time to just enjoy where we are, enjoy that the
good guys won, and make sure that you have some
memories tied to this going forward. So I gotta tell

(01:05):
you it's a great one and it's funny everyone that
I've been seeing, man, I mean you know, it's doing
rehab on on my knee this week, because you know,
I'm old.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
How is the knee, by the way better? I did?
We had to do some I did a little procedure. Anyway,
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Turn this into a naturally syndicated radio show where Buck
talks about his health problems. But no, I can walk again.
I mean for about two months I couldn't walk, so
I was just getting like sadder and fatter every every day.
But now I can walk again, so I'm gonna look
normal and hopefully a couple of months. But yeah, we
got me fixed. Point being everyone that I saw though.
It's funny, you know it, just going into the store,

(01:39):
walking down the street, seeing neighbors of mine. Everyone's like
just this this smile, this this satisfied, knowing, glorious smile.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
About the election. That's really all you have to do.
You see people just kind of shake your head and
you go, wasn't it awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Now we all get to luxuriate in this and really
savor it and get that full experience. Unfortunately, Clay, there
are some people out there for whom this is a
sad week.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's so funny to watch this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now there are the people who have already realized that
for dignity and career preservation, they need to come forward
and say, you know, all right, you know I was wrong.
I guess he isn't Hitler. He won fair and square.
You're seeing a fair amount of that because the wind
was so big. Just understand that's if this was tight,
if we were still counting votes and figuring this out,

(02:37):
they would be shrieking about how he's Hitler and the
country's over. And these people are insane, or at least
they pretend to be insane. Now they know it's all
over Trump one repudiation of a large part of the
left wing agenda that's going on. But there are the
you know, Clay, we always have a separate They are
the manipulators and the true believers, right. You know, Eric
Hoffer wrote a very famous, well known book of political philosophy,

(03:00):
true believer goes through, still really holds up, goes through,
you know, kind of the manipulation of crowds, the madness
of crowds, and how you create these people that will
believe absolutely anything. And they are the people that are
manipulating them obviously, And I think a lot of the
MSNBC New York Times, you know, propaganda complex on the
on the manipulator side, but there are some true believers

(03:23):
in there, right And last night, who is John Dickerson?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is he CBS? I don't even know that. I don't
know these guys are all I saw.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
People saying that he is like a CBS political analyst.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So this guy's on the late night comedy show.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I understand this not a political.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Show, a comedy show quote unquote with Stephen Colbert, which
it's not. It's actually a propaganda show that makes occasional jokes.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I want you to see.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is a quick clip, but I want you to
understand that what you're hearing is a grown man crying
because Kamala lost Play nine. How would you explain that
to a fourteen year old today?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
How would you explain this election? I'll try to think
about my boys, because, yes, what is the person I have?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I have a fourteen year old Okay, he's a static flips.
He's ecstatic that Trump won, and all of his friends
are ecstatic that Trump won. And most fourteen year old
boys in America, if they could vote, would vote for
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, let's start there. Second, what is the audience for
this show? Fuck?

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I loved David Letterman. He's sitting in the same studio
David Letterman was in. I loved watching late night comedy.
How did late night comedy turn into Stephen Colbert having
a guy crying because Trump won the popular vote?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What is the audience for this?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Surely, if you run Sherry Redstone, if you run CBS on,
does this show make money? The Colbert show? Don't you
just look at the results? If you're just a rational
involved in the entertainment industry person and say, maybe I
should have late night shows that just make people laugh again,

(05:16):
how would that not be your opinion?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like I understand on some level, Buck.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
In twenty sixteen, Trump was such a shock to the
system that the media could say, Man, we never saw
this coming.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
He just won the popular vote.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Kamala spent a billion dollars calling him a Nazi, and
virtually every state in the United States got redder New
York State, Buck is closer to being read than Texas.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Or Florida are. Based on the twenty twenty four election results.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Kamala only won Illinois by eight points. Buck, she won
New Jersey by four points. These are toss up jurisdiction
state margins. How would you not think, let's just be
funny again. How would that not be your take if
you run an entertainment company, and if I saw if

(06:14):
I ran CBS and I saw Stephen Colbert interviewing. First
of all, this guy's a political analyst, who's like crying
on the seat next to him.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
First of all, why is he a guest? Second?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Why is he a political analyst if he can't address
elections without crying?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Third?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
What is the flippant audience for this? Who are these
people out there that you're gaining and who have you
turned off in the process. I would never watch this show,
and I have to imagine ninety five percent of Americans
feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, one of the big lies that was told for
a long time when there was total when we used
to call it the mainstream media, it's not even that
is not only conferring unearned privilege on them, that they're mainstream.
It is truly untrue now that they are not the
main you know, the mainstream media. It's the legacy media,
it's the old media. It's what's led the left behind

(07:07):
in this new era that we're approaching, or you know,
the leftovers in this new era we're approaching. But Clay,
they used to say, oh, they just want to make
money and they'll do whatever. That was always a lot.
It's not true. These are entities that are highly ideological,
and because they exist in media ecosystems that were built
a long time before this left wing nonsense took over,

(07:30):
they're able to get away with it to some degree.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I mean, we always say here, we know what Rush
did for talk radio, and we honor and respect what
he did and the mission that he had, and we
try to continue and move it forward. And that is
our goal day in and day out. A lot of
these communists that have taken over CBS, even News and CNN,
they went from center left entities I think, in fairness,

(07:55):
you know, forget like William William F. Buckley had like
firing line on PBS.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, it used to be that some of these
places were at least sane, and now they've been taken
over by lunatic communists and people recognize them for what
they are. The comedy shows are part of this as well.
MSNBC's Nicole Wallace a former Republican. I mean, as somebody
who worked for the Bush White House, the Bush White

(08:19):
House that led us into two wars and financial calamity.
Let's be honest. I mean, I know it wasn't all
his fault, but it happened on his watch, and he
had eight years to stop it. And you know, I
can get into the Community Reinvestment Act and all this
other stuff another time, but the point is the time
bomb went off when it was his job to prevent

(08:40):
a time bomb from going off in the economy.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
And Clay Nicole Wallace is saying this is cut eight.
She can't even handle it.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
She's deleting an MSNBC host who's deleting her ex account.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
I have this sort of insatiable interest in every bit
of wisdom you can impart. And as a journalist, I
hear you about girding ourselves for this moment as a human.
I deleted Twitter today as an act of self preservation
and because I was no longer able to find the
things I was interested in. I'm seeing a lot of
things that I am not.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Can I just say, Clay, one of the reasons Trump
won is because enough Americans have realized that the Democrat
Party is run by narcissistic, emotionally fragile lunatics, and they're
just proving to us since Trump won, what a bunch
of narcissistic, emotionally fragile lunatics they really are.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I love we're saying. As a human, I was like, man,
I wasn't really sure what species you are. I appreciate
you nailed that down. Appreciate the clarification. In what world
is it an adult response to say, occasionally I come
across things that I don't like, and therefore I have
decided that can never happen. This has always been my

(09:56):
thing in general about the concept of cancel culture. There
are lots of shows that I think are garbage. The
View is garbage. I think it's the dumbest show on
the planet. But if it makes money, I somewhat understand
why the distributor of the View would say we're going
to keep distributing it. Because there's there's an audience of

(10:17):
emotionally dumb and intellectually dumb people who want to see
a show such as this talk about the political issues
of the day, and some of you might say that's
your show. With buck okay, you can attack us as
much as you want. But my point on it is
if the marketplace says this should exist, then that's fine.
If I don't like a show, I don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
My thing on late night talk shows is we know
Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, David Letterman. They established massive audiences
of people that wanted to laugh and be entertained.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Even I'll give them credit.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
SNL seems like it's come around a little bit in
the last couple of years and finally start to ridicule
Joe Biden as he should be. And they made fun
of Kamala Harris some and I would imagine certainly they'll
tee off on Trump, but I think it'll be more
even handed. What is the marketplace for otherwise comedic shows

(11:16):
for people to just have people crying on the couch.
I really don't understand it, And establishing your emotional fragility
does not make me trust you more. Remember when Stelter
was like, which to me is the perfect distillation of
the beta mail and why Democrats are having trouble attracting men.
Remember when he put out the tweet about how he
just had to get on the bed and have a

(11:38):
good long cry I'm sorry crying. I understand if your
dad dies, or your mom dies, or like your dog dies,
like emotionally things that are tough. God forbid a kid
dies because you're upset about the direction the country's going.
You go on social media and talk about how you

(11:59):
have had to have just a good long cry by
yourself in your bed.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You pathetic, sniveling loser.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Like what.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Man that actually has a functional penis, and maybe I'm
establishing what Selter doesn't have would ever think to himself,
this is what I should be putting out into the arena.
It just it staggers me that this has been in
some way mainstreamed broadcasting. Your own weakness and inability to

(12:29):
handle different opinions is not a masculine strength.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
On that point, Clay about what the Democrat Party has
become and what they have embraced. I think Alex Berenson
had a particularly good short explanation of what went wrong here.
He put this out on x quoting Alex here, imagine
sending your party on fire to protect the rights of criminals,

(12:54):
drug users, illegal immigrants, and men who want to use
women's bathrooms, and then not understanding why you've lost. And
I want to add I believe deeply in the Bill
of Rights and the rights of the arrested and the accused,
but effective and robust policing is essential, and if you
are convicted of a violent crime, you belong in prison.
I can't believe these statements are even controversial. I mean, Bearentson,

(13:17):
I think, was a journalist, old school journalist at the
New York Times. We obviously respected him a lot and
had him a lot on the show, and he was right,
which I think is always worth reminding everyone on COVID stuff.
He was really right about all of it. I can't
remember anything he got wrong, and he was right at
a time when people were putting real pressure on us
not to have him on this show, and we kept

(13:38):
having him on this show. Thank God Rush built this house,
the unsingable aircraft carrier of free speech that we have
and that we try to wield for the benefit of
the country. But Clay, I look, Alex was a Democrat, okay,
and he may even still consider himself a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
And he did as that he was voting Trump. Did
you see that.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I didn't even see that. But yeah, But what I mean,
we should get him on to talk. We should get
out on to talk about it. I mean, he's just
a rational person who has has behaved rationally when he
seem illogic and absurdity. What you've had are you've had
a migration of Democrats who have principles that that endure
and that they base their philosophy around, who maintain those principles.

(14:23):
Elon Musk, Alex Berenson, RFK Junior, Clay, I mean, you
know you're you're a convert, right, I'd yes. You have
had people who are rooted in principle in their thinking,
who have just come to the unavoidable conclusion that the
Democrat Party is in blatant, an egregious violation of those

(14:47):
underlying principles, and they just can't do it anymore, and
so they go to the other side. They're trying to
bring the country into balance and into a better place. Right,
I mean, that is what has happened fundamentally. I just
feel like I was a few years ago ahead of Elon,
a few years ahead of RFK Junior, a few years
ahead of Tulca Gabbard in my own political evolution. Alex
Bearnson deciding he's voting for Trump. It's not because we

(15:09):
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Speaker 1 (15:11):
You never should.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
It's because if you stand on principle, there's no way
to argue in favor of Democrat positions right now, they're
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What happens, some of these things start to decline in
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Speaker 7 (17:20):
We're gonna get into some more of the the destruction
of libs already shaky emotional stability because of the Trump election.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
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diving into just how they're trying to how they're trying
to make sense of this, like this is part of

(19:10):
the fun. This is part of the victory celebration, is
looking at your opponents as they just engage in this
group therapy session and kind of political circular firing squad.
We haven't even gotten into the best stuff yet about
who's really to blame here. Kamala or Joe Kamala or Joe.
That's gonna be fun because they're going to see more

(19:31):
of that. And the reason it matters to them is
because whoever gets more of the blame, there are people
around those two candidates who will either go forward in
their kind of elevated roles in the party or who
will be part of the collateral damage. Right, That's how
this works. Who's responsible for the absolute butt kicking that

(19:53):
the Democrats took here? Now, as we know, it's much
broader even than Biden or Kamalo. The Democrat Party completely
lost its mind and somehow with twenty twenty, somehow, And
I'm just gonna say, you know, you know there's some
stuff out there folks about twenty twenty. Now, you know,
you know.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
What I want to say about this, Clay, I don't
want to speculate too much. We need and we know.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Look, the good news is we have the phone numbers
and contacts, you know with all the different Trump people,
and you know, you know, between Hannity and all these
other great friends of ours on the radio world and
TV world, there's going to be a lot of connectivity
between this administration and your favorite conservative hosts and so

(20:37):
we'll be able to remind them of things like, Hey,
I think there should be an election integrity like task
force assigned to really get the data. I need an
explanation for where those from our own side. I don't
want an explanation from like the Kamala Biden apparatus. I
want our own side to be able to look into
this and explain where these thirteen million.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Votes or whatever it is disappeared to.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Numbers are still coming in, but Kamala Harris is going
to be eight nine million votes behind what Joe Biden
got in twenty twenty, and Joe Biden's numbers were off
the charts. Meanwhile, Trump is going to exceed the numbers
that he got in twenty twenty, but by two or
three million, right, which will be the second most votes

(21:24):
that have ever been obtained in an American presidential election.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think a lot of.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
People are going to go back now that we get
twenty twenty four, and they're going to go back and
they're going to look at twenty twenty and say, how
in the world did Biden manage to get eighty one
million votes? How did he exceed Hillary Clinton by fifteen million?
How did he exceed Barack Obama's high water mark by
twelve million? How did he exceed this Trump landslide by

(21:55):
eight or nine million? Potentially, like these are or five
or six million. These are real questions that an honest
country would be asking in the wake of twenty twenty four.
Now they're important questions too.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh yes.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
And I would also put out there that the so
far the after action report the Democrats are doing on
their own loss, other than the crying on comedy show,
it's just hilarious. I mean, we can sit here and
say it's all funny to you because I can promise
you with one hundred percent certainty, not that you need it,
you already know this. Donald Trump is not a fascist.
It's actually a really nice guy. If anything, he can
be kind of too nice and in the past at

(22:33):
least a little two trusting I think of some of
the people around him. But Donald Trump's a really nice guy.
He's not nice guy is not really the White way
to put it. I think he's a fundamentally I think
he's a fundamentally good person who care. You know, nice
can be a little like ah, you know, like maybe
Brian Stelter is nice. But I think that Donald Trump
is at his core. I mean, look at his family,
look at the people around him. He's a good person.

(22:55):
He's not going to do any of these horrible things
I think is going to happen. He didn't do it
the first time, He's not going to do it this time.
So this is why it's all mockery, right, This is
why they deserve it, because they're hysterical for no reason.
You know, if they were hysterical over something that was
actually going to happen, that's a different thing. Here's PBS's
White House correspondent, by the way, Clay blaming that Kamala
Harris loss on the right wing media ecosystem that I mean,

(23:18):
you just got to hear this analysis play for Maybe.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's not so much Democrats policies or messaging or the
words that they use specifically, but there is an entire
right wing media ecosystem that doesn't exist on the less,
does not exist in the center or mainstream, and people
are getting their information in very different ways now. And
Donald Trump and Republicans and Elon Musk and Joe Rogan
know exactly how to reach Americans where they are, regardless

(23:44):
of age and demographic and that played a big role
in this because of the fact of like that whether
it was disinformation, misinformation, or different propaganda that they were
feeding to the American public that made them feel the
way they did, and the American public felt as though
that they were being heard by Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The shorter version is, we have given people access to
the truth now in a way that they didn't have
when PBS mattered.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I some of this is crazy to me.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I don't know what world you can live in and
think that the media is too biased to the right
and that the left doesn't have a massive ecosystem that
is an amazingly effective echo chamber at getting out whatever
stories they want. It was just a week ago buck

(24:37):
that their closing argument was Trump said he was going
to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad
and murder her because she disagrees with him politically. It
was just a little over a week ago that they
said a joke from a Puerto Rica, a Puerto Rico
joke from an insult comedian, was going to swing the election.

(24:58):
They have the ability, with The New York Times and
the Washington Post to impact elite discussion on a level
that does not exist on the right in the country, and.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
This is important.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
If I were out there and you said, Clay, where
do you think there is an opportunity to create a
new media outlet, I would say the Wall Street Journal
doesn't count. There's actually a huge marketplace out there for
an incredibly smart, right of center daily news organization that

(25:30):
would go head to head with the New York Times
and the Washington Post because there is no functional equivalent
right now. I know there are competing outlets, and I'm
not trying to demean any of them, but nobody in
written space has anywhere near the power of the New
York Times or the Washington Post. Now Fox News obviously

(25:51):
far bigger than MSNBC or CNN.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
This show is what I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I don't even know what the left leaning version of
this show would be, but we have to fulfill a marketplace.
Like the reason this show works because Rush built a
huge audience. We've maintained and grown it in many ways,
and that's because there's a huge market for what we're saying,
because it's not being served elsewhere. But if you told me, hey, Clay,

(26:16):
where's the media environment opportunity in terms of impacting policy
in a massive way. I would say, to create a
competitor for the New York Times and the Washington.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Post that doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I think probably the New York Post is the most
successful newspaper that and I say newspaper because everything's online,
not because I'm trying to insult newspapers.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
But it's not very similar. It's a tabloid.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's not really the same aspiration as what the Times
in the Post have done.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I want to say, caller Jim in Minnesota here, it's
got some sports ball talk that I think will help
illuminate what's going on. Jim, thank you for calling in.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Hey, my pleasure. Thank you guys for all that you're doing.
I think you guys had a big, huge part in
Tuesday's outcome real quick. The left is like the football
coach who's getting blown out in the first half. They
go into the locker room and they come out and
they don't change anything, you know, and they wonder why
they lose. And if I'm the coach on the other side,

(27:15):
I'd be like, hey, guys, keep going, you're you're almost there.
You're just a little more radical, and you'd have brought
the ship.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
In, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
And I'm like, keep it up, you guys, keep it up,
because you just might cause more election results like we
had on Tuesday in the future.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So thank you. I'm stunned by this, Buck.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
The lack of this is what I say when you
stare at stand in front of the mirror, the lack
of self reflection and acknowledgment of creating the own landslide
that you did.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I thought they would be in denial.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I didn't think that some people out there would say, Hey,
the way to handle this is actually we need to
go further to the left, which is what they're arguing.
Or the reason why this happened is because Hispanic people
are now the I guess, brown faces of why supremacy.
Remember when they called Larry Elder the La Times did
the blackface of white supremacy. Maybe people are responding to you.

(28:07):
This is what Sunny Hostin said, Oh, all those voters
down on the border in Texas, the reason they didn't
vote for Kamala Harris is because they're misogynist. And then
Bill Malugin I saw shared, Actually they overwhelmingly voted for
Hillary Clinton eight years ago. Maybe what you're selling everybody
is actually hearing and they think it stinks and they

(28:31):
don't want to support it. And I'm evidence of this
buck because I left. I was just like, I can't
I can't count this this anymore. I can't sit around
and argue that men should be able to compete against women.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm not willing to.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Take the poison pill here and just go off the
deep end to follow dear leader down the crazy rabbit
hole of their insanity.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
One of the things that if you pick up a
true believer, I mentioned it the era coffers uh political
analysis work from you know, from time time past. There's
also Gustave Lebon who's a French political social scientists, and
they talk about the role of chance and and shouting

(29:17):
slogans in a crowd. This is this is sort of
why you'll see this right.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You know whose streets are streets?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You know that was the Occupy Wall Street thing. You know,
No justice, no Peace is a big one for the
social justice movement. And what you find is that people,
by the way, communists are very big on try I
mean true communists right, like communist parties around the world.
Then throughout history, Clay, they're very big on slogans and

(29:43):
jargon because it's a it's actually a way around. It's
a short circuit to thinking. So the way that that
comes up in the Trump context is, you know, January sixth,
they you know, the insurrection, Trump is a fascist. These
become these reflexive argument ending short circuits to actual thinking,

(30:04):
and the Democrat Party embrace this wholesale. And it's that's
because of that. You don't even have them engaging on
things like are you really okay with ten million illegals
pouring into the country in four years? Like do you
think that this is a good thing?

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You think that this makes that if you are okay
with it, then why do we have an immigration service?
Why do we have immigration laws?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Why? You know, can can anyone come here? Why are
their borders in any way? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like, So what happened is that because they have the
jargon and the slogans, they never actually have to get
to the substance in their thinking, and it keeps them
on a perpetual offense. They are the mob in the
street chanting nonsense. You're never gonna argue with them.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Right when someone's.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Saying no justice, no peace, that just doesn't mean anything.
It just means shut up, we're here we're mobilized. That
was the Democrats going into this election well, and I
think we've seen two examples of articular attacks on their
vapid slogans. One was Ron DeSantis against Gavin Newsom in

(31:08):
the Sean Hannity debate, where Gavin Newsom got destroyed, I'd
say the other one. The other one was Tim Walls
trying to go toe to toe with JD Vance and
just getting obliterated. But that's rare, right to our point.
We've talked about this on the show. You did it
with Bill Maher. There's almost no cross exchange of ideas anymore.
I was thinking about this, like, do I want to

(31:29):
just start going on CNN kind of been inspired by
our now band friend. I kind of want to join
the band group Clay you Ryan, you know band from CNN.
I want to go on there and just be like, look,
if you guys want to discuss something, I'll be respectful
until they're not, and then it's just going to be
on and they're gonna be libs crying. I've thought about
this now because I do think there's an opening now

(31:50):
to take the take the debate and go on off,
you know, to the other side.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
And go on offense.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So we'll see light us up with some calls here
to my friends eight hundred two eight two two eight two,
and remember Julie Kelly going to join us.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Going to get into the more serious.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Policy driven and justice issues here coming up about J six.
Is Trump going to do a lot for the J
six political prisoners? I mean, if you're sitting in a
federal prison because you trespassed on federal property, that's outrageous.
And there are people for whom that is their life
right now, and lives have been ruined over this, and
it's because of the Jack Smiths and the Adam Shifts

(32:25):
and the lunatic brigade of anti Trumper's. Is there going
to be some some justice done. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 4 (33:34):
Still giddy over a dominant win from the Democrat machine
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(33:54):
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getting an autograph copy of the book, hopefully enjoying it
and having delectable coffee in the process as well. Buck,
I was just asking you what you're going to be

(34:15):
doing over the weekend. By the way, we're going to
talk with Julie Kelly right at the top of the
next hour, Jack Smith, good timing, has basically dropped all
of his cases against Donald Trump. You have also now
many of the January sixth defendants that are still in
the process of being judicated. That is slowing down. Well,

(34:36):
ask Julie Kelly what we think about the process of
pardons and whether she anticipates that happening for many of
these defendants. Also, Buck, we maybe can dive in a
little bit. There's been a attack on Trump that was
caught that was going to potentially lead to an assassination
attempt from Iran. I believe we will dive into this,

(34:57):
But we were just talking about the collapse of legacy
media and I think this is interesting. As we finish
off this hour, this is Van de Hay with the
Axios company.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I actually think they've done a pretty good job of building.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
A new media company talking about how this election essentially
means that there is no value to a large extent
in legacy media.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
This is cut fifteen.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
All of us have to come to grips with legacy
media is just not as important as it thinks it is.
And so if you just look empirically at the numbers,
Joe Rogan's more important than any of us. He just
has a much bigger, hyper connected audience that listens to
his every word. So maybe listen to Joe Rogan and
kind of understand what is he talking about, what are
the guests that he has on, what are the issues.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
That they care about?

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Realize that the gravity of right wing discourse is now
taking place on X. It's not Fox X is what matters.
Elon Musk is now. I wrote about this yesterday. Arguably
the most powerful civilian in the history of any.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
It's all really really interesting stuff. And if I had
to pick a civilian who was going to be super
powerful in government, I think I'd probably go with Elon.
Given what he's been able to achieve in business. I
think you can argue pretty persuasively that Elon Musk is
the most successful business creator of any of our lives.

(36:22):
I mean, there's not many people that you could challenge
on that level. Maybe Steve Jobs, but when you look
at what he's done with cars, when you look at
what he's done with SpaceX, and now what he's doing
with Twitter, there's no one more impactful in the world
right now than Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Julie Kelly on j six prisoners, A good week for them.
We'll talk about it coming up.

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