May 15, 2024 • 36 mins
More discussion on Trump-Biden debates. Clay and Buck take calls, including from a doctor on what drugs Biden could take to improve short-term focus. Arizona U.S. Senate candidate Kari Lake joins C&B to discuss the “must-see TV’ Trump-Biden debate, on which she says she would put all her money on Trump, the presidential race in Arizona and her race for Senate. Crockett Coffee.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. Big
breaking news out there. In the event that you have
not heard it, we are reacting to it. Two debates
agreed to, at least the first of which would happen
(00:23):
very soon from now June twenty seven at nine pm
Eastern on CNN. The second debate September tenth, ABC. Unprecedented
early debate date, especially the one in June, which we
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have never seen the likes of before. That is prior
to both the Republican National Convention and the Democrat National Convention.
And we are talking about who would be the fairest
given the fact that CNN is clearly going to be
biased against Trump, of the potential debate moderators, Buck, you
had a good idea that I'm going to build on here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You said something that I think is true.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Instead of giving the debate to a particular network, every
news station should be able to simulcast the debate CNN, MSNBC,
Fox News, ABCNBCCBS, if they would like, every single network,
much like they cover the state of the Union or frankly,
Election Night should be able to have their own programming,
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put it on for everybody to watch, get the biggest
possible audience YouTube Twitter, Ever, I agree. I think that's
a really really good idea. Instead of giving it to
a network, I would build on it this way if
we truly wanted to have the fairest possible moderators in
that construct, I think that Fox News should pick a moderator,
and I think that MSNBC should pick a moderator, and
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every question from MSNBC should go to Trump. That is,
they're not allowed to question Biden, and every question from
Fox News should go to Biden. And that way you
would have the perceived right and the perceived the left,
each having their moderator asking questions of the person on
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the opposite side of the political spectrum from them. Would
it be super fair, I don't know, but it would
at least give the impromoture of I think, the fairest
possible degree of questioning, because it would be, on its face,
potentially antagonistic in nature. Biden's not going to sit for
a Fox News interview. I don't even think MSNBC would
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let Trump sit for an MSNBC interview if he wanted to.
I think that would be the fairest way to set
it up.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, MSNBC couldn't let Trump in the building or they
would go bankrupt paying for all the therapy for their employees afterwards.
So we know that's not going to fly. I think
that the old format, Remember, presidential debates are a relatively
new phenomenon because a lot of us have never lived
in an era where there weren't presidential debates like this
that are televised.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We just assume this is part of the whole day.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know, we were a republic having elections for a
long time before there were debates on TV, before there
were TVs. Even so, there's no reason why we shouldn't
be able to adjust this format for the digital era.
I think, you know, the Elon Ronda Santis primary launch
was suboptimal, so maybe there's a little less a focus
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on doing things digitally than there would have been otherwise.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I see.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think that this should be treated exactly like we
talked about, like a State of the Union address. It
should just be considered effectively property of the public to
be distributed on platforms as they as they see fit
and to monetize as they can, because there's also inherent
favoritism in all of this, right in the digital era,
Deciding to give it to ABC and not NPR is
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giving ABC tens of millions of dollars of publicity.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, you know what I'm saying, Like there's I mean,
they sell ads. I think all the programming on Shoulder programming.
You're right, it effectively is a donation to the business
of that network. I mean CNN's biggest audience this year,
by far, will be this September twenty seventh debate.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I think that every network should be able to cover
the debate, and it should be broadcast as widely as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that is.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Fairer, and obviously you should all be not just fair,
use it should be you could stream do anything you
want with it afterwards. And there's no question. This isn't
the oscars, right, it's not. You have twenty four hours
then you can.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's the state of the Union.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, it's to be true to like the State of
the Union. So I the other part of this is
Republicans need to learn the lesson. You know, there have
been people who have used their influence. These networks have
put their thumb on the scale for Democrats in the
past in ways that may well have been significant. I mean,
I do think that the single most significant debate cheating
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isn't the right word, but you know, pushing for one
side was when Kendy Crowley backed Obama up and she
was she was wrong. And there was this whole game
about Barack Obama and whether he said when he was
up against mid Romney that it was an active terror
in Benghazi on September eleventh. So we've already been burned
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on this. I don't know why we think that we
have to stick with the traditions of the past, but
it looks like they're going to do it. Do you
want to get to some of these calls. I have
a lot of opinions on this. When we got to
let's see Bob in wait, really in Moscow, Russia, not Moscow, Idaho, Moscow, Russia.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
What's going on Bob right?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Hey, Yes I'm stationed in Moscow, Russia. But President Trump
has to pull the rope of DOPA technique by Mohammad
Ali in the first debate. He had to sit back
there take every punch, smile, Well, don't overreact. Don't react
because this will frustrate Biden and the Democrats. The reason
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is they're using this debate to decide if they're going
to change the candidate Biden for someone else.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think this is significant, and I don't know how
many other people are going to say it. I don't
think you're going to sign on to it. Buck, I
don't know. I don't know that I agree about the
way Trump should approach it. The only reason why to
me there would be a June debate before the Republican
primary and before the Democrat primary is because there's a
lot of nervousness about Biden's performance and this is designed
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for him to come out and say I'm the guy.
Look at what great fighting for my men. Trump's got
no shot against me, and if he bombs, I think
the pressure would get ratcheted up in a hurry that
Biden doesn't have the mental and physical ability to do this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You buy that or no? Wait?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So are we trying to say now that the debates
are part of the grand scheme to replace Biden with
Michelle Obama at the convention.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There's a grand scheme to me, there's no reason for
a June debate before the Republican Convention and significantly before
the Democrat convention if you one hundred percent believe your
guy is the guy. I think, much like the State
of the Union, this is a show me moment for
Joe Biden. They Democrats want to see that he's able
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to do this, and if he is, then they look
at it and they say, Okay, we've only got to
go out one more time September tenth. But if he's not,
then you look at it and say, okay, it's time
to pull the plug, and that it gives them time
to do it, to open up the convention.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I mean, why else, I mean, just just think about.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It, because he's losing, and he can't go into the
summer with the current trends as they are, because you're
going to be heading into Remember, he's the incumbent, he
should be.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
If he were only two or three points.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Ahead of Trump, we'd be saying, oh wow, these are
not gone yeah behind, and effectively all but maybe one
swing state at this point is a far ward. It's
bizarre for us because we've never had this. We've never
been saying, hold on is Trump being treated too well
by the polls or you know, we've never been in
this position before. They have to turn the momentum around
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before we get into the thick of the election cycle,
because you know, it's like running into the fourth quarter.
If you're behind by too much, you can't make up
the difference. Okay, I don't disagree with that. My problem
with that is June. What is the date here, June.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Twenty seventh, seventh, Yeah, is only a couple of weeks
before the Republican Convention. So whatever happens on June twenty
seventh is, first of all, it's the middle of the summer. Second,
it's gonna get drowned out within like ten or twelve
days by the huge Republican convention and the fact that
Trump the erect, as he told this yesterday, is going
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to be announcing his vice president. So even if Biden
came out on June twenty seventh and looked like the
greatest debater since Lincoln Douglas debates back in you know,
eighteen fifty six, I think even if that were to occur,
then he still would not be able to have much
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lasting impact. To me, this is a prove it to
us moment, because if you replace Biden, then there's only
one debate for Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom or whomever
the other candidate would be, and you're just trying to run,
you know, sort of the maybe they asked for more
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debates than I don't know, but the June twenty seventh debate,
it's ominous for me, for Joe Biden, it just doesn't
add up.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's definitely not happening because things are going so well
for the minute. That's correction. We agree on that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Let's do Dean in Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Dean's got uh, he's got a suggestion here for the debates.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What's up, Dean.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So here's my idea, guys.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I say each president picks his own moderator, one each
like Tucker her callers, Techer Carlson would be great for Trump,
and then whoever Biden wants, they both get answered the
same question from each moderator to answer. They press on
back and forth, back and forth like a duel, and
then at the no no teleprompters, no earbuds, no holds barred,
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you get two hours.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't I don't dislike that idea.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's kind of like a second in a duel, you
get to pick your guy who's going to be there
to help you in the duel. I don't think they
would go for it because I think the Biden team
would say, Oh my goodness, who's Trump going to pick?
And I think probably Biden would pick who would be
picked Rachel Maddow. Rachel Maddow Tucker potentially would be I
think really great riveting television. I also think you get
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honest answers. It would eliminate This is my argument on
Fox and who should pick someone? At MSNBCC, you should
pick one and they should only ask the opposing party.
In theory, I think that would at least address the
moderation and try to balance it out to give us
a fairer content.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The other way you could do this would be to
really make it very fair but very sterile. And the
way to do that would be a moderator who they're
they're going to propose, They're going to let them know
what the topics, maybe even the questions are openly, let
them know what they are in advance, and then really
just allow dueling monologues where you have sixty seconds and
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the other person's mic is cut and then you have
sixty seconds. I mean, you know, you could construct something
that would be truly equal time and that would be
truly unslanted by the moderators.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But I don't think it would be good TV.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that's the other challenge of this, as long as
there's an interest in making it good TV for ratings purposes,
because there's millions of dollars of revenue attached to this,
you know, and also the branding for the network. I
mean having your host. Look, I'll say it right now,
if they offered to have Clay and I do the moderation,
we would do it because it's obviously great branding for
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your show or your your platform, whatever it is, to
do it. As long as that's the case, the incentives
are not to have it be truly fair. The incentives
are to have it be the best TV you can.
You can create.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
One more idea here, as we go to break a
mote with piranhas in it. I'm just kidding. I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think Trump should demand drug testing. I don't even
know what the drug testing could reveal. I'm not I mean,
I don't think Trump or Biden are doing coke or
you know, like using hard drugs.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Joe Biden's taking steroids. Take a little trend on the side.
He's got some got some tea, some exhaustis testosterone he's taken.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm just saying I would love to see the drug
test results. I think it would be funny for for
Trump to say it, like just come out and say
they're shooting Biden up with something tranquilizer.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know what they're putting in is want.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I feel like I'm pretty pretty well versed from just
I find pharmacology. Is that the right thing to be
pretty fascinating area of I actually have a couple of
books at Holding that I'm reading now on the discovery
of new drugs and things. Is there something you can
give an old person to make them sharp for a while,
like if you fill them with Riddlin or something?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Is that I have?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Do we have any anyone out there who has a
who's a psychiatrist or as an MD who can speak
to this, because everyone ay says they're shooting Biden up
with stuff. I'm like, where was that stuff when I
was taking final exams?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, it's a great question, and uh, well, everybody's on
adderall now is the answer to you. I mean, it's
just like a lot of caffeine. Really, I mean, I
don't think if you have dementia, that's not It might
help you focus and be alert, but you know, if
you're if you have dementia, aderall is not gonna I
don't think that's gonna save you, is it. I don't know, No,
I don't. This is a good question. If you're a
doctor out there and you were given the opportunity to
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prescribe something to someone in advance of a debate that
you think would help their performance, is there a drug
that you could take short term? We're not talking about
something you've pained for years.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Really, we want to know what drug is doctor Jill
Biden prescribing from him out of her extensive MD knowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We're going to get angry emails about this.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We know she's not a real indeed, we know, but
I would love to hear from doctors out there. What
could you do to make some you know, like they
do beta blockers for golfers. It's a big deal because
it lowers your stress makes you a better putter. Obviously,
steroids are out there and make people stronger and better athletes.
What could you take for something for a debate to
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
This is a good day.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Good day when the main news story about the presidential debates,
it's just the the conspiracy slash joke ideas are flying here. Uh,
who was it, Clay? Did you just go over this
that it's gonna be like Scooby Doo. Trump's gonna walk
over and just be like it's not really Biden and
pull the mask off his face and then they'll see
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someone else will be there.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And yes, I got a bunch of you who think
that it's not going to be actually Joe Biden. Uh,
Jimmy Lightspeed is where I saw this. Tommy Larin was
saying she agrees with me that, uh that Biden's not
gonna be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Are you guys?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We're gonna tell Tommy Buck says she has to come
on and admit that Buck was right. When Biden is
the nominee. You can let her know, I said at Center,
send her a hug.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
At Jimmy Lightsbeed sorry is the one who said it
would be hilarious for Trump to grab Biden's face and
try to pull off the mask.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
There we go style.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Doctor Jim in Austin, Doctor Jim, what kind of brain
roids could they be giving Biden?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
There's a there's a good medicine has been around for
a long time used to be called the trade names
called pro vigil. The generic name is called mot dasa nil,
and it is a It was indicated for sleep atnea
and UH and daytime drowsiness, but is actually really good
for UH improving cognition for for in some number of outs.
(17:00):
And I think that's probably what he's getting.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That is great.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wasn't this the idea that you would use this for
like soldiers who were having to fight for a long
time as well?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
You know, I don't I think in the soldiers they
used the stimulants.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean the Nazis took mess literally meth amphetamine.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Yeah, Well this had some some uh similar aspects to
the to the uppers, if you will, if I could
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Speaker 2 (17:44):
Talked about really as a possibility. So I guess we
are talking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
About the Floridian there that would also have that issue
with being from the same state.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
One hundred percent on that that that's an issue?
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, we are both super excited to welcome in right
now with us Arizona Centate candidate Carrie Lake. Carrie, we
got a lot to hit run through with you. But
let's start here. I know that it is a national
presidential election that's underway. But when you hear Biden want
to debate on June twenty seventh and on September tenth,
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what do you think that debate will be like for
Trump and Biden? And what does it tell you that
Biden wants debates so soon your state, Arizona's a battleground state.
How is the national election playing and how do you
think all that will implicate your race?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Oh, I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean,
it's gonna be musty TV. It's interesting. You know, he
acted like mister tough guy in this video, but when
you read the small print, he's got a lot of
requirements for that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he
knows he's boot off the stage by just everyday average Americans,
you know, even Democrats. I'm out in the field. I'm
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out campaigning right now, and I'm going to towns and
the crowds are increasingly growing with Democrats who are attending
to hear what I have to say about turning Arizona
around and helping our country. They are set up the
sky high inflations affecting them, just as it's affecting Republicans.
So I think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at
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this point. But it's going to be great. President Trump,
no matter what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will
win this debate. I'm putting all my money on President Trump,
and I think the rest of this country.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Is as well.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Hey, Kerry, thanks thanks for being here with us. The
way they're structuring this, Let's assume that Trump more or
less agrees to the laundry list of things that Biden wants.
You were as certainly people in Arizona now I think
a lot of other folks now have come to know
this as well.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
About you, a TV news.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Anchor for decades, right, so you've been in the media
game for a long time before you were running for
politics on political office. What do you think the best
way is is that this should be structured? I mean,
is there even a moderator that you think would be
acceptable to both sides that would work in this case?
How do you break that down?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Tough because you know, so many people are if you
say one nice thing about President Trump, they say Oh,
you're maga and you're not fair anymore. But I think
there are moderators who could. I've done debates. I've moderated
debates and forums before, and you know, you have to
check your beliefs and your views to the side and
just be fair. And I think there's a lot of
people right now who could do that. You know, Joe
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Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan is
a Republican or a Democratic. I think he's truly independent.
Scott Adams, I can think John Solomon is a true
journalist out there. Maria Barturomo, she would be great because
she understands the economy, you know, and all of the
questions that are going to be based on the economy.
You need to have someone who truly understands what they're
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talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
By by the way, breaking I think.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
We should have a live audience, absolutely, and maybe even
take some questions from the audience.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,
this just came from Trump. He says he wants Biden
to debate him on Fox News Wednesday, October second, twenty
twenty four. Host would be Brett Behar and Martha McCollum.
That's interesting. So that literally just came down from Trump.
All right, let's go to Arizona. New York Times Ciena polling.
(22:27):
I'm sure you get all sorts of poles that are
currently underway. In Arizona showed Trump opening up a substantial
lead in Arizona. You are in a super tight race
with Ruben Diego, your opponent out there. Do you think
Trump is winning Arizona right now? First part of this question,
like the New York Times Ciena poll showed, and what
(22:48):
makes you think that you can catch Ruben to the
extent you're behind or do you think you're up right
now based on what you see polling data.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Wise, Well, I saw that poll and I had a
meeting yesterday with my polster, and we're really happy with
that poll. First of all, when you look at the
fine print in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though
Republicans have a large edge over Democrats. So when you
rewait that pole with what the actual voters are and
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what they the turnout will be here in Arizona, we're
actually up or tied. But regardless of how you look
at it, we're right there in the margin of Era.
It's going to be close. President Trump, I believe is
up bigger than what the New York Times poll says.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
He's up.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
I'm on the streets of Arizona every day, and you've
got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far
left Chicago Democrat frankly marks this opponent. He just spent
seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a
bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a
moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever
run in the state of Arizona and possibly in the country.
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He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC, look almost moderate.
He just spent seven million dollars and did not see
a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.
They just announced they're going to put twenty million more
in ads. Listen if they want to flush money down
the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are
awakes to who Reuben Diego is.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
He's voted for.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
The open border policies, he's pro sanctuary city. He marched
and defund the police rallies. He has voted in one
hundred percent, in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason
we're seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're
seeing crisis that we can't even afford. It's because he
has pushed these disastrous dead end policies that Joe Biden
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is pushing. The scary thing is he's a Biden mini
me when it comes to policy. But he's forty years younger.
So if we don't stop him right now, we're going
to have a guy who for forty years can bring
a reign of terror on this country if he is
elected into the US Senate. And that's why we all
have to get out, get registered to vote, start talking
to our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody
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can afford to sit home this next election. I feel
confident that President Trump will win and sweet Arizona, and
I feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me.
He wants me to help him out when I get
to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda
pushed through or talking.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
To Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical Senate seat
in Arizona carry I'm just wanting you mentioned some of
the big ticket items, if you will, things like the
border inflation, the economy. Those are all trending against Biden
and all the Democrats who go along with him, like Diegos,
your opponent in this race. What about the campus protests
(25:36):
and the Biden administration's knifing Israel in the back? Is
that nationally we know that has some real implications. We're
seeing it planted in Michigan. Does it have any implications
as you can see it in Arizona, whether it's the
protests alone or the foreign policy disasters?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Oh boy, hon, every I mean, it just shows he's
showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and
it's going to make things worse for US. US when
it comes to foreign policy right now, you know, Biden
is a laughing stock that nobody respects them, nobody fears them.
We used to have peace through strength, Now we have
war through weakness, and so on the foreign policy side,
(26:13):
it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm
seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.
This young group of people that are in college right
now about ready to graduate, are waking up to the
fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,
his policies are killing them and they're waking up and
realizing that we have to get back to a strong
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economy as they get ready to go into the workforce.
You know the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think
it was three point four percent unemployment, but when you
look closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's
eleven point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the
things that they used to buy four and five years
ago are in some cases more than twice as much
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money right now. So they're looking at themselves entering into
a job mark that's very shaky for them, not being
able to afford the basic necessities, not being able to
afford rent, and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans. So,
plus they're watching all of that chaos on the campus,
which they're finding out is funded by a bunch of
(27:17):
people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden and my
opponent Ruben Gego, the people funding all of that chaos
tearing their campus apart, are behind people like Biden, Ruben
Diego and other leftists who are destroying our country.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I saw the Arizona State forrat guys. I'm sure
you saw that video cleaning up the mess from the
Palestinian protesters and it went super viral and I loved
it as we saw a lot of people on campus
standing up to them. Question for you, Carrie, abortion has
been a mess all over the country, in particular focused
in Arizona eighteen sixty four law. The Arizona Supreme Court
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involved the state legislature. Both the House and the Senate,
I believe have addressed this. What is going on there?
How much of an issue do you believe, not only
statewide but also for the national election, given how close
it's going to be there is abortion going to play
What are you hearing on the ground and what's the
situation likely to be by the time people start headed
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to the polls.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue.
But the real fact of the matter is when people
can't afford groceries, when people can't afford gasoline, when they're
being evicted from their apartment because they can't afford the
rent anymore. When we're watching as twelve million people pour
across our border and drive down wages because it's cheap labor, and.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
We have to put the bill for putting them up.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
In housing them services, I think that it takes a
back burner. I think it really is on the back burner.
We are back to the law that we had for several.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Years, the fifteen week law.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
It was approved and voted in by both Republicans and Democrats,
and a Republican governor signed it into law. That is
our current law in Arizona, and I believe people when
they get to.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
The polls will decide on that.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
We will have the choice between the fifteen week law
and planned parents with voter initiative that will pretty much
legalize abortion right up until birth.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
So I agree with President Trump. It's going to be
up to the states.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
The people of Arizona will decide which law they want.
And I'm running for US Senate, so this is now
in the hands of the state. But I will tell
you this as a US Senator, I will never vote
to approve federal funding.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
To support abortion.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.
I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left
up to the states.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But what I do want to see guys, is that.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
We work with pro family legislation to encourage families. We're
watching our population growth, it's going way down. We're actually
going to be at a critical point if we don't
start growing families and having babies in this country.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
And so I want to push.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Good pro family laws in Hungary. Chance to visit with
Victor Orbon about a year ago, and I noticed that
they had cut their abortion rate in half, nearly in half,
and they never changed a single law. They did it
through pro family.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Legislation to encourage people to start a.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Family and grow their family.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
And you know this, just as I do, that the
country is.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Only as strong as our most important institution, and that
institution is the family. Right now, the foundation of our
families is pretty shaky, and we need to do something
to change that. And I'll be the most pro family
senator in the US Senate.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Carry Lake running for Senate Carrie. We're going to keep
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Thank you visit Terriylake dot com and support our campaign.
We're going to bring about some good America first policies
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Speaker 3 (30:50):
Absolutely. You know, Carrie was just talking to us about
the family and expanding the American family by having more
and more children. And how in other places even they
figured out ways to save many lives. She talked about
a voluntary drop in the number of abortions in Hungary
about fifty percent. This is the battle that we're in
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not illegal in a majority of states nowhere near it.
In fact, a lot of states have had an increase
in abortions post Row v.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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So there's something that can be done about it to
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Speaker 2 (34:35):
What was it called that Biden's provigil is the idea,
And I remember I've never heard of it before you
heard of it, I didn't know that one.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, the provigil, and some of you out there are
going to be far more knowledgeable about this than me,
But I remember studying it. I think it was initially
designed for narcoleptics who would fall asleep and they needed
to try to find something that would keep someone from
being able to just fall asleep anywhere. And then they
determined that it had a profound impact in terms of
alacrity for people who did not have narcolepsy. And I
(35:07):
heard a lot of discussion about how they were testing
it to use in the military for people out there
who had to fight for a long time and needed
to maintain razors.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You know that the Nazi stormtroopers, right, did take methamphetamine
for their initial blitzkrieg, their Lightning War. Yeah, yeah, that's
that doesn't get I learned that at school. I learned
that one later on. That's pretty they went these guys
would go for forty eight hours, just moving, moving, moving, fighting, moving. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, legitimately, it also probably increases the amount of
risk that you're willing to undertake. I can see why
if you're a general, a drug infused army might be
a benefit. But I think that they're probably giving Biden
a lot of that pro vigil And again this game,
remember Trump is asked now for a Fox News debate
as well. We'll see how Biden responds to that. I
(35:58):
think that's smart. But this is a nine pm Eastern start,
so Biden gonna have to be alert after his bedtime.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was gonna say, they're gonna have to make him
take a big nap. It's gonna get nap time in
the afternoon. Maybe they're gonna give him a lot of
Crockett coffee. Maybe they recognize it's great. I mean, Crockett
coffee should be considered a performance enhancing drug. I'm just
gonna say it, so, I don't know if it's on
the schedule of things you can get tested for if
you're Biden. But nonetheless, we're gonna bring you the latest
(36:26):
on this back and forth today. The feud over the
debates already breaking out, plus new numbers on the economy,
on inflation, still very high prices out there for everybody.
What does it mean going forward? And Joe Scarborough Clay
is very upset with the polling companies because they make
(36:49):
Biden look like he's getting his butt kicked
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. Big
breaking news out there. In the event that you have
not heard it, we are reacting to it. Two debates
agreed to, at least the first of which would happen
(00:23):
very soon from now June twenty seven at nine pm
Eastern on CNN. The second debate September tenth, ABC. Unprecedented
early debate date, especially the one in June, which we
(00:44):
have never seen the likes of before. That is prior
to both the Republican National Convention and the Democrat National Convention.
And we are talking about who would be the fairest
given the fact that CNN is clearly going to be
biased against Trump, of the potential debate moderators, Buck, you
had a good idea that I'm going to build on here.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You said something that I think is true.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Instead of giving the debate to a particular network, every
news station should be able to simulcast the debate CNN, MSNBC,
Fox News, ABCNBCCBS, if they would like, every single network,
much like they cover the state of the Union or frankly,
Election Night should be able to have their own programming,
(01:29):
put it on for everybody to watch, get the biggest
possible audience YouTube Twitter, Ever, I agree. I think that's
a really really good idea. Instead of giving it to
a network, I would build on it this way if
we truly wanted to have the fairest possible moderators in
that construct, I think that Fox News should pick a moderator,
and I think that MSNBC should pick a moderator, and
(01:52):
every question from MSNBC should go to Trump. That is,
they're not allowed to question Biden, and every question from
Fox News should go to Biden. And that way you
would have the perceived right and the perceived the left,
each having their moderator asking questions of the person on
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the opposite side of the political spectrum from them. Would
it be super fair, I don't know, but it would
at least give the impromoture of I think, the fairest
possible degree of questioning, because it would be, on its face,
potentially antagonistic in nature. Biden's not going to sit for
a Fox News interview. I don't even think MSNBC would
(02:34):
let Trump sit for an MSNBC interview if he wanted to.
I think that would be the fairest way to set
it up.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, MSNBC couldn't let Trump in the building or they
would go bankrupt paying for all the therapy for their employees afterwards.
So we know that's not going to fly. I think
that the old format, Remember, presidential debates are a relatively
new phenomenon because a lot of us have never lived
in an era where there weren't presidential debates like this
that are televised.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We just assume this is part of the whole day.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know, we were a republic having elections for a
long time before there were debates on TV, before there
were TVs. Even so, there's no reason why we shouldn't
be able to adjust this format for the digital era.
I think, you know, the Elon Ronda Santis primary launch
was suboptimal, so maybe there's a little less a focus
(03:26):
on doing things digitally than there would have been otherwise.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I see.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think that this should be treated exactly like we
talked about, like a State of the Union address. It
should just be considered effectively property of the public to
be distributed on platforms as they as they see fit
and to monetize as they can, because there's also inherent
favoritism in all of this, right in the digital era,
Deciding to give it to ABC and not NPR is
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giving ABC tens of millions of dollars of publicity.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, you know what I'm saying, Like there's I mean,
they sell ads. I think all the programming on Shoulder programming.
You're right, it effectively is a donation to the business
of that network. I mean CNN's biggest audience this year,
by far, will be this September twenty seventh debate.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I think that every network should be able to cover
the debate, and it should be broadcast as widely as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that is.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Fairer, and obviously you should all be not just fair,
use it should be you could stream do anything you
want with it afterwards. And there's no question. This isn't
the oscars, right, it's not. You have twenty four hours
then you can.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's the state of the Union.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, it's to be true to like the State of
the Union. So I the other part of this is
Republicans need to learn the lesson. You know, there have
been people who have used their influence. These networks have
put their thumb on the scale for Democrats in the
past in ways that may well have been significant. I mean,
I do think that the single most significant debate cheating
(05:01):
isn't the right word, but you know, pushing for one
side was when Kendy Crowley backed Obama up and she
was she was wrong. And there was this whole game
about Barack Obama and whether he said when he was
up against mid Romney that it was an active terror
in Benghazi on September eleventh. So we've already been burned
(05:21):
on this. I don't know why we think that we
have to stick with the traditions of the past, but
it looks like they're going to do it. Do you
want to get to some of these calls. I have
a lot of opinions on this. When we got to
let's see Bob in wait, really in Moscow, Russia, not Moscow, Idaho, Moscow, Russia.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
What's going on Bob right?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Hey, Yes I'm stationed in Moscow, Russia. But President Trump
has to pull the rope of DOPA technique by Mohammad
Ali in the first debate. He had to sit back
there take every punch, smile, Well, don't overreact. Don't react
because this will frustrate Biden and the Democrats. The reason
(06:06):
is they're using this debate to decide if they're going
to change the candidate Biden for someone else.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think this is significant, and I don't know how
many other people are going to say it. I don't
think you're going to sign on to it. Buck, I
don't know. I don't know that I agree about the
way Trump should approach it. The only reason why to
me there would be a June debate before the Republican
primary and before the Democrat primary is because there's a
lot of nervousness about Biden's performance and this is designed
(06:37):
for him to come out and say I'm the guy.
Look at what great fighting for my men. Trump's got
no shot against me, and if he bombs, I think
the pressure would get ratcheted up in a hurry that
Biden doesn't have the mental and physical ability to do this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You buy that or no? Wait?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So are we trying to say now that the debates
are part of the grand scheme to replace Biden with
Michelle Obama at the convention.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
There's a grand scheme to me, there's no reason for
a June debate before the Republican Convention and significantly before
the Democrat convention if you one hundred percent believe your
guy is the guy. I think, much like the State
of the Union, this is a show me moment for
Joe Biden. They Democrats want to see that he's able
(07:28):
to do this, and if he is, then they look
at it and they say, Okay, we've only got to
go out one more time September tenth. But if he's not,
then you look at it and say, okay, it's time
to pull the plug, and that it gives them time
to do it, to open up the convention.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I mean, why else, I mean, just just think about.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It, because he's losing, and he can't go into the
summer with the current trends as they are, because you're
going to be heading into Remember, he's the incumbent, he
should be.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
If he were only two or three points.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Ahead of Trump, we'd be saying, oh wow, these are
not gone yeah behind, and effectively all but maybe one
swing state at this point is a far ward. It's
bizarre for us because we've never had this. We've never
been saying, hold on is Trump being treated too well
by the polls or you know, we've never been in
this position before. They have to turn the momentum around
(08:24):
before we get into the thick of the election cycle,
because you know, it's like running into the fourth quarter.
If you're behind by too much, you can't make up
the difference. Okay, I don't disagree with that. My problem
with that is June. What is the date here, June.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Twenty seventh, seventh, Yeah, is only a couple of weeks
before the Republican Convention. So whatever happens on June twenty
seventh is, first of all, it's the middle of the summer. Second,
it's gonna get drowned out within like ten or twelve
days by the huge Republican convention and the fact that
Trump the erect, as he told this yesterday, is going
(09:02):
to be announcing his vice president. So even if Biden
came out on June twenty seventh and looked like the
greatest debater since Lincoln Douglas debates back in you know,
eighteen fifty six, I think even if that were to occur,
then he still would not be able to have much
(09:23):
lasting impact. To me, this is a prove it to
us moment, because if you replace Biden, then there's only
one debate for Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom or whomever
the other candidate would be, and you're just trying to run,
you know, sort of the maybe they asked for more
(09:45):
debates than I don't know, but the June twenty seventh debate,
it's ominous for me, for Joe Biden, it just doesn't
add up.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's definitely not happening because things are going so well
for the minute. That's correction. We agree on that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Let's do Dean in Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Dean's got uh, he's got a suggestion here for the debates.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What's up, Dean.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So here's my idea, guys.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I say each president picks his own moderator, one each
like Tucker her callers, Techer Carlson would be great for Trump,
and then whoever Biden wants, they both get answered the
same question from each moderator to answer. They press on
back and forth, back and forth like a duel, and
then at the no no teleprompters, no earbuds, no holds barred,
(10:30):
you get two hours.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't I don't dislike that idea.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's kind of like a second in a duel, you
get to pick your guy who's going to be there
to help you in the duel. I don't think they
would go for it because I think the Biden team
would say, Oh my goodness, who's Trump going to pick?
And I think probably Biden would pick who would be
picked Rachel Maddow. Rachel Maddow Tucker potentially would be I
think really great riveting television. I also think you get
(10:55):
honest answers. It would eliminate This is my argument on
Fox and who should pick someone? At MSNBCC, you should
pick one and they should only ask the opposing party.
In theory, I think that would at least address the
moderation and try to balance it out to give us
a fairer content.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The other way you could do this would be to
really make it very fair but very sterile. And the
way to do that would be a moderator who they're
they're going to propose, They're going to let them know
what the topics, maybe even the questions are openly, let
them know what they are in advance, and then really
just allow dueling monologues where you have sixty seconds and
(11:35):
the other person's mic is cut and then you have
sixty seconds. I mean, you know, you could construct something
that would be truly equal time and that would be
truly unslanted by the moderators.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But I don't think it would be good TV.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that's the other challenge of this, as long as
there's an interest in making it good TV for ratings purposes,
because there's millions of dollars of revenue attached to this,
you know, and also the branding for the network. I
mean having your host. Look, I'll say it right now,
if they offered to have Clay and I do the moderation,
we would do it because it's obviously great branding for
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your show or your your platform, whatever it is, to
do it. As long as that's the case, the incentives
are not to have it be truly fair. The incentives
are to have it be the best TV you can.
You can create.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
One more idea here, as we go to break a
mote with piranhas in it. I'm just kidding. I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think Trump should demand drug testing. I don't even
know what the drug testing could reveal. I'm not I mean,
I don't think Trump or Biden are doing coke or
you know, like using hard drugs.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Joe Biden's taking steroids. Take a little trend on the side.
He's got some got some tea, some exhaustis testosterone he's taken.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm just saying I would love to see the drug
test results. I think it would be funny for for
Trump to say it, like just come out and say
they're shooting Biden up with something tranquilizer.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know what they're putting in is want.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I feel like I'm pretty pretty well versed from just
I find pharmacology. Is that the right thing to be
pretty fascinating area of I actually have a couple of
books at Holding that I'm reading now on the discovery
of new drugs and things. Is there something you can
give an old person to make them sharp for a while,
like if you fill them with Riddlin or something?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Is that I have?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Do we have any anyone out there who has a
who's a psychiatrist or as an MD who can speak
to this, because everyone ay says they're shooting Biden up
with stuff. I'm like, where was that stuff when I
was taking final exams?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, it's a great question, and uh, well, everybody's on
adderall now is the answer to you. I mean, it's
just like a lot of caffeine. Really, I mean, I
don't think if you have dementia, that's not It might
help you focus and be alert, but you know, if
you're if you have dementia, aderall is not gonna I
don't think that's gonna save you, is it. I don't know, No,
I don't. This is a good question. If you're a
doctor out there and you were given the opportunity to
(13:55):
prescribe something to someone in advance of a debate that
you think would help their performance, is there a drug
that you could take short term? We're not talking about
something you've pained for years.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Really, we want to know what drug is doctor Jill
Biden prescribing from him out of her extensive MD knowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We're going to get angry emails about this.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We know she's not a real indeed, we know, but
I would love to hear from doctors out there. What
could you do to make some you know, like they
do beta blockers for golfers. It's a big deal because
it lowers your stress makes you a better putter. Obviously,
steroids are out there and make people stronger and better athletes.
What could you take for something for a debate to
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
This is a good day.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Good day when the main news story about the presidential debates,
it's just the the conspiracy slash joke ideas are flying here. Uh,
who was it, Clay? Did you just go over this
that it's gonna be like Scooby Doo. Trump's gonna walk
over and just be like it's not really Biden and
pull the mask off his face and then they'll see
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someone else will be there.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And yes, I got a bunch of you who think
that it's not going to be actually Joe Biden. Uh,
Jimmy Lightspeed is where I saw this. Tommy Larin was
saying she agrees with me that, uh that Biden's not
gonna be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Are you guys?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We're gonna tell Tommy Buck says she has to come
on and admit that Buck was right. When Biden is
the nominee. You can let her know, I said at Center,
send her a hug.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
At Jimmy Lightsbeed sorry is the one who said it
would be hilarious for Trump to grab Biden's face and
try to pull off the mask.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
There we go style.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Doctor Jim in Austin, Doctor Jim, what kind of brain
roids could they be giving Biden?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
There's a there's a good medicine has been around for
a long time used to be called the trade names
called pro vigil. The generic name is called mot dasa nil,
and it is a It was indicated for sleep atnea
and UH and daytime drowsiness, but is actually really good
for UH improving cognition for for in some number of outs.
(17:00):
And I think that's probably what he's getting.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That is great.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Wasn't this the idea that you would use this for
like soldiers who were having to fight for a long
time as well?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
You know, I don't I think in the soldiers they
used the stimulants.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean the Nazis took mess literally meth amphetamine.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Yeah, Well this had some some uh similar aspects to
the to the uppers, if you will, if I could
real quick, if we picked, if he picks Byron Donalds
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Speaker 2 (17:33):
I love that guy, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
We like we like Representative Donald's. We saw him in DC,
we were there last Fall's right, good, good man. He's
not He's not getting.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Talked about really as a possibility. So I guess we
are talking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
About the Floridian there that would also have that issue
with being from the same state.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
One hundred percent on that that that's an issue?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Is that a.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Percent?
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, we are both super excited to welcome in right
now with us Arizona Centate candidate Carrie Lake. Carrie, we
got a lot to hit run through with you. But
let's start here. I know that it is a national
presidential election that's underway. But when you hear Biden want
to debate on June twenty seventh and on September tenth,
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what do you think that debate will be like for
Trump and Biden? And what does it tell you that
Biden wants debates so soon your state, Arizona's a battleground state.
How is the national election playing and how do you
think all that will implicate your race?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Oh, I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean,
it's gonna be musty TV. It's interesting. You know, he
acted like mister tough guy in this video, but when
you read the small print, he's got a lot of
requirements for that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he
knows he's boot off the stage by just everyday average Americans,
you know, even Democrats. I'm out in the field. I'm
(19:57):
out campaigning right now, and I'm going to towns and
the crowds are increasingly growing with Democrats who are attending
to hear what I have to say about turning Arizona
around and helping our country. They are set up the
sky high inflations affecting them, just as it's affecting Republicans.
So I think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at
(20:19):
this point. But it's going to be great. President Trump,
no matter what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will
win this debate. I'm putting all my money on President Trump,
and I think the rest of this country.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Is as well.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Hey, Kerry, thanks thanks for being here with us. The
way they're structuring this, Let's assume that Trump more or
less agrees to the laundry list of things that Biden wants.
You were as certainly people in Arizona now I think
a lot of other folks now have come to know
this as well.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
About you, a TV news.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Anchor for decades, right, so you've been in the media
game for a long time before you were running for
politics on political office. What do you think the best
way is is that this should be structured? I mean,
is there even a moderator that you think would be
acceptable to both sides that would work in this case?
How do you break that down?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Tough because you know, so many people are if you
say one nice thing about President Trump, they say Oh,
you're maga and you're not fair anymore. But I think
there are moderators who could. I've done debates. I've moderated
debates and forums before, and you know, you have to
check your beliefs and your views to the side and
just be fair. And I think there's a lot of
people right now who could do that. You know, Joe
(21:34):
Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan is
a Republican or a Democratic. I think he's truly independent.
Scott Adams, I can think John Solomon is a true
journalist out there. Maria Barturomo, she would be great because
she understands the economy, you know, and all of the
questions that are going to be based on the economy.
You need to have someone who truly understands what they're
(21:55):
talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
By by the way, breaking I think.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
We should have a live audience, absolutely, and maybe even
take some questions from the audience.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,
this just came from Trump. He says he wants Biden
to debate him on Fox News Wednesday, October second, twenty
twenty four. Host would be Brett Behar and Martha McCollum.
That's interesting. So that literally just came down from Trump.
All right, let's go to Arizona. New York Times Ciena polling.
(22:27):
I'm sure you get all sorts of poles that are
currently underway. In Arizona showed Trump opening up a substantial
lead in Arizona. You are in a super tight race
with Ruben Diego, your opponent out there. Do you think
Trump is winning Arizona right now? First part of this question,
like the New York Times Ciena poll showed, and what
(22:48):
makes you think that you can catch Ruben to the
extent you're behind or do you think you're up right
now based on what you see polling data.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Wise, Well, I saw that poll and I had a
meeting yesterday with my polster, and we're really happy with
that poll. First of all, when you look at the
fine print in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though
Republicans have a large edge over Democrats. So when you
rewait that pole with what the actual voters are and
(23:18):
what they the turnout will be here in Arizona, we're
actually up or tied. But regardless of how you look
at it, we're right there in the margin of Era.
It's going to be close. President Trump, I believe is
up bigger than what the New York Times poll says.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
He's up.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
I'm on the streets of Arizona every day, and you've
got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far
left Chicago Democrat frankly marks this opponent. He just spent
seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a
bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a
moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever
run in the state of Arizona and possibly in the country.
(23:54):
He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC, look almost moderate.
He just spent seven million dollars and did not see
a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.
They just announced they're going to put twenty million more
in ads. Listen if they want to flush money down
the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are
awakes to who Reuben Diego is.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
He's voted for.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
The open border policies, he's pro sanctuary city. He marched
and defund the police rallies. He has voted in one
hundred percent, in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason
we're seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're
seeing crisis that we can't even afford. It's because he
has pushed these disastrous dead end policies that Joe Biden
(24:36):
is pushing. The scary thing is he's a Biden mini
me when it comes to policy. But he's forty years younger.
So if we don't stop him right now, we're going
to have a guy who for forty years can bring
a reign of terror on this country if he is
elected into the US Senate. And that's why we all
have to get out, get registered to vote, start talking
to our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody
(24:59):
can afford to sit home this next election. I feel
confident that President Trump will win and sweet Arizona, and
I feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me.
He wants me to help him out when I get
to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda
pushed through or talking.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
To Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical Senate seat
in Arizona carry I'm just wanting you mentioned some of
the big ticket items, if you will, things like the
border inflation, the economy. Those are all trending against Biden
and all the Democrats who go along with him, like Diegos,
your opponent in this race. What about the campus protests
(25:36):
and the Biden administration's knifing Israel in the back? Is
that nationally we know that has some real implications. We're
seeing it planted in Michigan. Does it have any implications
as you can see it in Arizona, whether it's the
protests alone or the foreign policy disasters?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Oh boy, hon, every I mean, it just shows he's
showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and
it's going to make things worse for US. US when
it comes to foreign policy right now, you know, Biden
is a laughing stock that nobody respects them, nobody fears them.
We used to have peace through strength, Now we have
war through weakness, and so on the foreign policy side,
(26:13):
it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm
seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.
This young group of people that are in college right
now about ready to graduate, are waking up to the
fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,
his policies are killing them and they're waking up and
realizing that we have to get back to a strong
(26:33):
economy as they get ready to go into the workforce.
You know the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think
it was three point four percent unemployment, but when you
look closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's
eleven point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the
things that they used to buy four and five years
ago are in some cases more than twice as much
(26:56):
money right now. So they're looking at themselves entering into
a job mark that's very shaky for them, not being
able to afford the basic necessities, not being able to
afford rent, and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans. So,
plus they're watching all of that chaos on the campus,
which they're finding out is funded by a bunch of
(27:17):
people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden and my
opponent Ruben Gego, the people funding all of that chaos
tearing their campus apart, are behind people like Biden, Ruben
Diego and other leftists who are destroying our country.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I saw the Arizona State forrat guys. I'm sure
you saw that video cleaning up the mess from the
Palestinian protesters and it went super viral and I loved
it as we saw a lot of people on campus
standing up to them. Question for you, Carrie, abortion has
been a mess all over the country, in particular focused
in Arizona eighteen sixty four law. The Arizona Supreme Court
(27:56):
involved the state legislature. Both the House and the Senate,
I believe have addressed this. What is going on there?
How much of an issue do you believe, not only
statewide but also for the national election, given how close
it's going to be there is abortion going to play
What are you hearing on the ground and what's the
situation likely to be by the time people start headed
(28:18):
to the polls.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue.
But the real fact of the matter is when people
can't afford groceries, when people can't afford gasoline, when they're
being evicted from their apartment because they can't afford the
rent anymore. When we're watching as twelve million people pour
across our border and drive down wages because it's cheap labor, and.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
We have to put the bill for putting them up.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
In housing them services, I think that it takes a
back burner. I think it really is on the back burner.
We are back to the law that we had for several.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Years, the fifteen week law.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
It was approved and voted in by both Republicans and Democrats,
and a Republican governor signed it into law. That is
our current law in Arizona, and I believe people when
they get to.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
The polls will decide on that.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
We will have the choice between the fifteen week law
and planned parents with voter initiative that will pretty much
legalize abortion right up until birth.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
So I agree with President Trump. It's going to be
up to the states.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
The people of Arizona will decide which law they want.
And I'm running for US Senate, so this is now
in the hands of the state. But I will tell
you this as a US Senator, I will never vote
to approve federal funding.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
To support abortion.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.
I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left
up to the states.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But what I do want to see guys, is that.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
We work with pro family legislation to encourage families. We're
watching our population growth, it's going way down. We're actually
going to be at a critical point if we don't
start growing families and having babies in this country.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
And so I want to push.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Good pro family laws in Hungary. Chance to visit with
Victor Orbon about a year ago, and I noticed that
they had cut their abortion rate in half, nearly in half,
and they never changed a single law. They did it
through pro family.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Legislation to encourage people to start a.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Family and grow their family.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
And you know this, just as I do, that the
country is.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Only as strong as our most important institution, and that
institution is the family. Right now, the foundation of our
families is pretty shaky, and we need to do something
to change that. And I'll be the most pro family
senator in the US Senate.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Carry Lake running for Senate Carrie. We're going to keep
talking to you. Is this guy's closer, and this audience
is going to help out. So thank you for being
with us.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Thank you visit Terriylake dot com and support our campaign.
We're going to bring about some good America first policies
to turn this Biden nightmare around.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Absolutely. You know, Carrie was just talking to us about
the family and expanding the American family by having more
and more children. And how in other places even they
figured out ways to save many lives. She talked about
a voluntary drop in the number of abortions in Hungary
about fifty percent. This is the battle that we're in
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here in this country right now as well. Abortion is
not illegal in a majority of states nowhere near it.
In fact, a lot of states have had an increase
in abortions post Row v.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Wade's end.
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So there's something that can be done about it to
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Speaker 2 (34:35):
What was it called that Biden's provigil is the idea,
And I remember I've never heard of it before you
heard of it, I didn't know that one.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, the provigil, and some of you out there are
going to be far more knowledgeable about this than me,
But I remember studying it. I think it was initially
designed for narcoleptics who would fall asleep and they needed
to try to find something that would keep someone from
being able to just fall asleep anywhere. And then they
determined that it had a profound impact in terms of
alacrity for people who did not have narcolepsy. And I
(35:07):
heard a lot of discussion about how they were testing
it to use in the military for people out there
who had to fight for a long time and needed
to maintain razors.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You know that the Nazi stormtroopers, right, did take methamphetamine
for their initial blitzkrieg, their Lightning War. Yeah, yeah, that's
that doesn't get I learned that at school. I learned
that one later on. That's pretty they went these guys
would go for forty eight hours, just moving, moving, moving, fighting, moving. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, legitimately, it also probably increases the amount of
risk that you're willing to undertake. I can see why
if you're a general, a drug infused army might be
a benefit. But I think that they're probably giving Biden
a lot of that pro vigil And again this game,
remember Trump is asked now for a Fox News debate
as well. We'll see how Biden responds to that. I
(35:58):
think that's smart. But this is a nine pm Eastern start,
so Biden gonna have to be alert after his bedtime.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was gonna say, they're gonna have to make him
take a big nap. It's gonna get nap time in
the afternoon. Maybe they're gonna give him a lot of
Crockett coffee. Maybe they recognize it's great. I mean, Crockett
coffee should be considered a performance enhancing drug. I'm just
gonna say it, so, I don't know if it's on
the schedule of things you can get tested for if
you're Biden. But nonetheless, we're gonna bring you the latest
(36:26):
on this back and forth today. The feud over the
debates already breaking out, plus new numbers on the economy,
on inflation, still very high prices out there for everybody.
What does it mean going forward? And Joe Scarborough Clay
is very upset with the polling companies because they make
(36:49):
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