January 23, 2025 • 36 mins
The lunatic left has Elon Musk in their sights. CNN lets go six percent of their workforce. Hollywood nominates a transgender actor for Best Actress. Philly Mayor can't spell "Eagles".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number two
as we are powering through and trying to bring even
more sanity to the world, stack in a lot of wins.
It's a good feeling after we felt like we were
in the midst of just trying to keep things from
falling completely down. And now every time I pick up
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my phone and see a new headline, it's just another
good decision being implemented by Trump that is making the
country stronger, more rational, more reasonable, more sane, which is
the ultimate goal I think that anyone should have who
is out there right now wondering what the impact of
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the Trump regime is going to be. And there remains
almost no resistance and in fact, buck and this is
where I want to kind of dive into some of
the data here. In fact, the resistance continues to crumble
in legacy media. I went and looked the ratings for
CNN on inauguration Day collapsed by eighty three percent compared
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to what happened in twenty twenty one when Joe Biden
was inaugurated, also down massively from twenty seventeen when Trump
was inaugurated. There are reports that CNN anchors have been
instructed not to be super anti Trump because they are
desperately trying to figure out what their floor is. There
(01:34):
has been no commensurate wave of anti Trump anger that
served to lift frankly, a lot of media organizations in
the last Trump term. It's basically gone now. You and
I talked about driving through the resistance, the anti Trump
(01:55):
parade that was taking place in Washington, d C. On Saturday.
It was almost sad to look at. It was just
a few you know, maybe it was a few thousand,
but compared to what we've seen mobilized against Trump in
the past, they just looked utterly defeated. Like I actually
just kind of felt sad for them. We even pulled
up beside one woman, like kind of an older woman,
(02:17):
and like you and I, we kind of looked over
at her and we're like, like, this is how you
chose to spend your Saturday. It's like thirty six degrees
kind of spitting a wintry mix.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And she's got like some hot soup or something. Yeah,
she looked cold.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I just felt bad for and we're like, you know,
you're a seventy five year old woman surrounded by a
bunch of crazy trans purple haired lunatics beating on drums,
and I'm like, lady, you, I mean, why are you
out here in the court? Like I wanted to pick
her up in the car and just be like, can
we drive you home?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Grandma?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like I just felt sorry for That's what the Trump
resistance has become. You and I driving around and we
just feel bad that people are having to stand out
in the rain, and they don't even seem like they're
that into it. It's kind of a you know, half
hearted protests. They're not even really got much vigor.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It was like they it was like they signed up
for the anti fascism protests six months ago and just
felt like they needed to show up because they didn't
want to let down, you know, the the other purple haired, sad,
sad folks. But here's here's what I think on a
policy level is going on, or when you look at
the policies, rather what's going on they made all of
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this or rather the anti Trump resistance this time around
was all about Trump and threats to democracy, and really
they didn't even feel the need in this election cycle
to make any particular arguments about about what, well, one,
what they would do that was good. As you know,
the Kamala campaign. I still don't know what Kamala Harris
(03:53):
thought she was running for. I mean, it's it's not clear.
It wasn't clear to her, so it's definitely not clear
to anybody observing her. But beyond that, Clay, I think
that they misread the mood of the country, which was
let's see what he does. I mean, clearly from the
election that's but okay, let's see what this guy actually
has in store for us, because they had overdone the
(04:15):
he's a Nazi, he's a fascist thing so much. And
let's just as a little side note here, the stuff
about Elon and the hint no one actually believes that
Elon Musk is a Nazi, so everybody or sympathizes with
or you know, and if he were.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He would be like the worst Nazi ever, right, And
that he decided until fifty four years old or whatever
he is to suddenly give a secret Nazi hand sign.
All of these things never add up in terms of
just basic logic. But yes, the fact that that is
their their storyline, I think is a sign of their desperation.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But this is a perfect example, though, of one of
these moments where you can say, anyone who is saying
that has no integrity whatsoever, no integrity whatsoever, because they
none of them believe it, none of them, even the
most hysterical leftists, none of them actually believe it. But
they see it as an opening to smear. But you
(05:09):
know came out. You know who came out to defend
Elon Musk on this. By the way, the Prime Minister
of Israel. I'm pretty sure former Special operations warrior and
current Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Nettan Yahoo not a
fan of Nazi salutes. But you know, this is the thing,
(05:29):
It's so obvious, it's so clear they simply do not
care if there's an opportunity to slander somebody like Elon Musk,
because Clay, they are so bitter ready. I think Elon
this is something we haven't talked about yet. I think
Elon is the second most hated person by the left
in America right now. I think Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is number one.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The no question they're most bitter at Trump. I think
Elon Musk is actually in the number two slot. I
think he has above jd Vance above. I mean, he's
certainly better known. I think that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think it is probably true that Elon has become
the second most hated person on the right. And he's
not on the lend by the left, but on the
right to say what I'm saying as left. Yet I'm
not even sure how far on the right he actually is.
I mean, the guy voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean it's I think.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
He's a I think Elon Musk a decade or two
ago would have been considered a moderate Democrat, even I'm
a lot of us out there thinks now, I don't
mean then. I mean his positions now would have been
moderate Democrat twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's how far left they've moved.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well as the media and by the way, on the
on the protest people, well you're talking about how, you know,
bedraggled and disinterested.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
They seemed they look.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do you remember when you would be in school and
you get extra credit if you went to an event,
but you didn't want to go to the event, but
you might have gone.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Just to prove to get the extra credit.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Like every now and then you teacher be like, hey,
if you guys go to this museum, or if you
go to this exhibit and you come at least we
did in school, and you come and you show me
that you did this in your free time. I'll give
you extra credit on whatever, and you begrudgingly go to
it because you need the extra credit. That's how I
felt like everybody at the protest march was walking around
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like nobody actually wanted to be there on their own.
They were fulfilling some sort of obligation or necessity in
their lives to be there.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Felt like, can I just say, having covered a lot
of back in the day when I was at the
Blaze working for my man Glenn Beck, thank you Glenn,
I covered a lot of these left wing protests for them,
and there there was this sense that they were having
it was fun for them.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was a social activity for these leftis.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
This time around, it was like they were dragged to
annt Ethel's house for some holiday dinner that they didn't
want to eat, that it was going to come out
of the microwave, and the whole thing was kind of depressing.
That is what the protest was. There's no party, there's
no vibe. The little drum in the background was like
a little drum, just one yeah, baby, drum. There were
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no there were really no uh you know, they used
to have celebrities would show up at these kinds of protests.
I mean even in twenty sixteen, you know they would have.
Didn't Madonna say something insane during inauguration week in twenty sixteen,
like you know about like Burt, like how she wanted
people to do bad things in the White House. I
don't I don't want to miss quote, but she said
something insane this time around. I know this word vibe
(08:26):
is overused, but there's no there's no vibe for the
for the anti trumpers. It's all very it's all very
going through the mechanics or I mean or going through
the motions of it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's very kind of sad. They're vanquished. And CNN is
vanquished too. I mentioned that they lost eighty three percent
of their inaugural audience. They tried in the initial aftermath
of the election to say, hey, well we still have
the ability. Uh you know that people just tune out
right after the election. There's a lot of loss of
(08:59):
enthusiasm when your side loses and people don't pay as
much attention. The numbers aren't coming back. They tried to say, hey,
as the inauguration happens, Trump comes into office, people will
come back for the news. They're dialing out for Thanksgiving
and Christmas and New Year's they haven't come back. January
was a disaster. Inauguration Day was a disaster for CNN,
(09:20):
And now this morning they announced that they were firing
two hundred people. That's six percent of their overall workforce.
So this is not an insubstantial reduction in staff. And
they also of probably the most zealous anti Trump I
would say person on air left at CNN is Jim Acosta.
(09:44):
They took away his ten AM show and they gave
it to Wolf Blitzer instead to kind of do a
more middle of the road news coverage. And reports our
buck that they have offered Jim Acosta a midnight slot
on CNN, and this is again according to different media
outlets out there reporting that he is furious and that
(10:07):
he is contemplating just walking out basically on CNN over
this emotion. Legacy media is in trouble at Fox News,
I think has a longer runway in cable than anyone.
Their ratings are continuing to surge, and I saw buck
where now Fox News has more viewers who are self
(10:27):
professed Democrats than CNN or MSNBC does. So I don't
know how long the runway is for Fox News. I
think it's hard to predict the cable satellite bundle and
how that's going to go. I don't even know what
percentage of our audience. Do you think still has a
cable subscription?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm seventy eighty, yeah, I would think. Okay, I don't know.
We haven't had a cable subscription for many many years now.
I don't know. You have YouTube TV? Is that what
you have to watch live? Just so I can watch
live news? And honestly, I think I'm gonna cut YouTube TV.
I don't watch it enough. These things are getting really expensive.
Netflix and all these.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh they keep raising prices, Yeah, they keep raising prices.
Everybody's Actually they used to say, oh, you know, a
la carte streaming, it'll save you money.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It hasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Actually, as I'm sure many of you have found out,
you're paying for Disney Plus or Hulu or Amazon Prime
or Netflix, and you're stacking all those premium subscriptions on
top of some people still have I do a cable
satellite package as well. My point on this is CNN's
basically waving the white flag and letting it be known
(11:33):
that their business is collapsing. And that's why they're trying
to get as many people off the books as they can.
And they're now saying we're going to pivot to digital.
I just don't know that CNN has a brand that
that many people. They're going to try to charge now
for people to go to CNN dot com who use
it all the time. I think this business is in
real trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Remember when they had CNN Plus and they took a
hundreds of millions of dollar hit just to shut the
whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You know, they could have listened to the buckster. I
was there in twenty fifteen. I tried to tell them
they were crazy. I tried to tell they didn't want
to hear it. They didn't want to listen to me.
They wanted to be mean.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And now sadness has descended across the land at CNN.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But they the thing is, they've they've earned this one.
They've lied to people, They've lied to the American people.
It's a dishonest entity, a dishonest organization. And this is
actually this has caused and effect. I mean this is
the consequence of decisions that they made. So I generally,
and I know it was as well. You should never
celebrate anyone losing their jobs. I don't celebrate people losing
(12:36):
their jobs, but I do celebrate CNN losing audience, which
is going to result in job losses because they were
hurting the country.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Here's a question for you, is we go to break
and maybe some of you out there have thoughts, I'd
be curious eight hundred and two two to two eight
a two. Is there anybody on the air at CNN
right now that could have a media career of a
substantial nature if they went independent? I mean, I'm just
tossing that out there right now. Is there anyone that
you have seen? I know a lot of these guys
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have quote unquote names, but Don Lemon has falling flat
on his face, like nobody cares what Don Lemon is
doing or saying. I don't think people would follow Anderson Cooper.
I don't think they're going to follow Jim Acosta. Does
Jim Acosta have some huge fan base of people who
watch a show every night and would clamor to listen
to a podcast if he hosted it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
My point on that is we're moving into an era
where everyone has to compete on every front, and I
don't think CNN has any difference makers on its broadcast network.
Used to be it didn't matter they were the star
the CNN network was. Now now, if you don't bring stardom,
nobody pays attention to you. Maybe Scott Jennings could host.
(13:46):
Maybe he's going to get a show.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean what they could do, what they could
have done many years ago that might have worked, would
be a pivot to journalism, he said, yeah, to digital.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
They could do a pivot to journalism.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
The problem now is that model is very strained as well,
and there's so much information out there and people don't
need a twenty four hour drone droning voice in the background.
From the airport situation, remember the airport CNN stuff they paid,
See people and realize this CNN paid to be.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
On in the airports. It wasn't like the airports were
also happy to hell.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
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We were just talking about how things are a little
rough ri at CNN.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
UH.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Congressman Burchett UH decided that he wasn't going to have
any of the nonsense uh from CNN, and this is
how one.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Of his exchanges went, I think this is cut ten
play it.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
This is not Fox, Congressman.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You can't just spin a tail and pull the wall
out of people's eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Now, this is CNN. This is the news we're asking him.
That's about and tell the truth.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And that's why more people are watching the cartoon network
Spongebobb reruns right now. Jim, Look, I left the White
House here in a riot. My life was threatened. My
life has been threatened within the last few weeks. Yet
there's no coverage of that, and you all continue this,
this narrative of trap attacking Trump. You just can't stand
the fact that he won and that America spoke Congressman,
and your view is very dominic.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Clay, the this is CNN, sir, is an invitation to
be dunked on.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The timing on this is absolutely hysterical, and primarily because
Jim Acosta is getting a show removed and that he
has Tim burchett on who probably didn't know that at
the time, and just gets absolutely dunked on by the
fact that nobody's watching. Also the arrogance of Jim Acosta
to be saying, hey, this is CNN, this is not Fox.
(17:20):
I mean, Jim Acosta and CNN have spread more ridiculous
lies about Trump than anybody that I know, short of MSNBC,
so to claim, Look, the reason why people are not
watching CNN is because people have come to realize that
much of what CNN told them is untrue and it's
(17:43):
hard to regain the public trust, which is why I
think CNN's brand is such. In the toilet, I got
a couple of ideas I jotted him down of who
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Sexton show. All Right, I don't even quite under stand
how this has happened, But we've been discussing sanity returning
(19:06):
too much of America. It has not, however, returned to
Hollywood yet. The Oscar nominations came out. Can one of
you in the studio send me the Oscar nomination list.
I'm betting that I haven't seen very many of the movies,
if any. I honestly have no idea what movies would
(19:28):
even be nominated. And I bet I don't know most
of the actors or actresses that are nominated.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there are some movies that are
somewhat popular, But I did see this.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Have you seen the list? I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The one with the most nominations is called Emilia Perez.
I've never even I hadn't heard of this movie till I.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Just read this. Have you heard of this movie?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I had no The only reason, the only reason I
know anything about that. I know nothing much about that
movie except that the woman who's great in Marvel is
On is in that movie, Zoe Saldana, the one from
Guardians of the Galaxy that plays the Green, the green superhero.
That's the Here's the best Okay, here are the Best
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Picture nominees. Buck the staff just sent them to me.
I mean, I'm looking at it right now. They're Honora
the Brutalist, a complete unknown Conclave, Wicked.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I didn't go see it, but I know Wicked obviously
based on the book that turned into a play. Dune
Part two. I went and saw that and it was good.
So I actually really liked Dune Part two. Encourage people
to go check that out. Amelia Perez Nickel Boys the Substance.
I'm still here now. I'm not claiming that I am
(20:51):
an expert in movies, but I like movies. I've only
heard of two of these movies, Wicked and Dune Part two.
Have you seen any of these movies in theater? Any
of the Best Picture nominees.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I don't go to movie theaters anymore. I have a
rule about this. Have you streamed any of them from
the comfort of your home? I've seen.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I saw Dune Part two. I like Dune the first
one very much. I've read the book a long time ago.
June two was not Christopher Walking as the Emperor was
a weird choice. That was my Look, why Christopher Walkin.
I just didn't get that. But oh, it's pretty good.
It also felt a little too.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know, a little too like kind of like
a Mid East ripoff to me. But it was pretty good.
It was pretty good. That's the only one that I've
seen to answer any other.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
All Right, So my point on this is they keep
talking about how they want to bring back the Oscars
and people are gonna watch, and how glamorous Hollywood is,
and there aren't really very many famous movies that everybody
comes together and went and saw of Wicked again and
done two both popular. Otherwise, I bet most of you
are like me, and you don't even know some of
these movies. So they have nominated a man pretending to
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be a woman and not like, hey, what was it
like Tom Hanks back in Bosom Book Buddies or something
back in the day or missus doubtfire it's.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Being done it. Well, didn't he do a show called
Bosom Buddies or something too?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I no I know, but I'm saying, wasn't my what's
his name? That's Dustin Hoffman who did.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Dustin Hoffman and TUTSI he was dressed as a woman,
but that's done, or like Missus Doubtfire with Tyler Perry,
or sorry with Missus Doubtfire with Robin Williams. Well, yeah,
that would be the black version of Missus Doubtfire, but
which exists the Medea movies is basically Missus Doubtfire except
a black woman instead.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All right, so that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm not talking about a guy playing a woman for
comedic effect and being nominated for a Best Picture. I'm
talking about a man who has decided that he is
now a woman and has been nominated as a woman.
A man has been nominated as a woman to win
Best Actress.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So we now have reached.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Not only are men winning women's championships in sports, now
it is possible that Hollywood is going to name as
a Best Actress a man who says he is a woman. Again,
it's an acting thing. So I'm not saying a man
pretending to be a woman, who would I guess you'd
be nominated Best Actors.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
This is a This is a transit woman. A trans
woman is what what we're talking about here. Has been
nominated for Best Actor.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Which has never happened to my knowledge before, but you
now have the potential that what is the greatest honor?
I think it's fair to say of any actor or
actress's career to be given an oscar as the best
performing actor or actress in a movie. Now a man
may be the best actress.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I just also think that this person is not
going to win because their performance as a woman is
not very convincing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't even know what the role is.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I see the picture and I'm like, I it was
it a trans person that this trans person was supposed
to be playing.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I'm not I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Is it maybe in that case then I suppose I
haven't seen the movie, so I can't speak to it.
But to be a best actress, wouldn't know, Clay, if
you were playing a trans person.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Wait, hold on a second, it's like we're crossing the streams.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I know it's getting difficult playing a trans woman then,
but you would be nominated for the best female like
the best female lead role, right, That's how that would do.
This is like I remember back in the day when
they were trying to teach you how to understand a sentence,
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and you would get up and have to diagram diagram,
but I need like a diagram here if you are
a trans woman, why would you get a like if.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Your trans woman is just a man? Right, I'm trying
to visualize this in my head.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So yes, if you are, if you're a trans woman
and in real in your life, and then you're playing
a trans.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Woman in a uh in the thing, you're not really playing.
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, well, yeah,
you're not really acting.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You're not really thought so I thought you were like
trying to cancel out exponents or like no, no, you know,
using as trying. I can't even keep track of where
we're going. The thing that's so wild about this, And again,
women have to speak out about this because men just
don't allow it to happen. This is important culturally. Most
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of you can't even name a woman who decided that
she was a man and has attained a level of
uh success in masculine life. I don't mean like just
a normal job. I mean like you are considered to
be in some form or fashion and avatar of masculine masculinity.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It doesn't happen. Now.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
There are women who decide to become men, but they
just kind of typically destroy their careers because men are
like just kind of feel like, Okay, that's fine, but
we're not.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Gonna make you the avatar of masculinity. This is what
I was kind of thinking about before. So the actor
actor is Carlos Sophia Gascone who plays a drug kingpin
who undergoes quote gender affirming you know, transgender surgery. So
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but to my point here, it's like, it's kind of cheating,
isn't it. You're an actor who's playing somebody who's trans,
like who goes.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Trans, but you are trans? Do you see what I mean? Yeah?
I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
This is their argument, though, Buck, which is kind of
crazy about this, is they have started to argue that
if you I mean and I can't. This is how
crazy all these rules have become. They have started to
argue that you are not allowed the whole point.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So let's take a step back. What is the whole
point of acting?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
To pretend to be something that you are not, right,
That is the essence of acting. That's all you do.
You pretend to be something or someone that you are not.
They now have started to say, Buck, what you're saying
is I don't think it would be permissible now for
someone who is not trans to be playing a trans role. So,
(27:21):
in other words, if you what you're saying, if you
are just a regular dude and you're like, hey, I'm
going to play this transactor or actress, it's considered to
be appropriation of the trans role for you to pretend
to be that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
This is how we've brought everything so full circle. Acting
is about pretending to be something that you are not.
But now you have to pretend to be something that
you are, because to pretend to be something that you're not,
if the thing that you are is a victim class,
you are appropriating.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's right. I think I think I got that. I
think I got that. Is that is the.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Rules that they have to apply now such that it's
I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Can I just tell something right now?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm looking I'm looking at this clay, I'm looking at
this right now, and I'm just I'm a little fired up.
All I have to see is see this guy's hands.
And no it's a guy. I just it's like the
Seinfeld with man hands, that one.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This This actor has man hands, I mean makes my
hands look like dainty little cabbage patch kid hands.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm just being honest, and we're supposed to say this
is a woman. Now, I've never seen actress? Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Sometimes people are like, I don't know why you're so judgmental?
Can you even tell who the man is?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I have a hot game because the answer is always yes, yes, yes,
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And if someone's saying that you can't tell, they're probably
lying to you. I'm talking about like if you have
you know, like if you have a lineup and you
have three women and one man pretending to be a woman,
I feel like I can go one hundred percent in
picking out the man right against actual women, Like it
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doesn't seem very difficult. And a lot of people are
lying to these men and being like, oh, you look
like such a beautiful woman. I just women have to
stand up and can you imagine if this dude wins
the Best Actor.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No heterosexual man sees a man who is trying to
present as a woman and is sexually attracted to that,
because then they wouldn't be a heterosexual man. That's this
is the This is one of that they tried to
start to do this for while. I remember I brought
this up, this was years ago that it was transphobic.
For a straight guy not to be attracted to trans women.
This was a thing for a while. They tried to
(29:33):
push that, and and they couldn't get even the sort
of mainstream.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Left to go along with that. It was it was
too far. But I just it's funny because I was
looking on my on my computer Clay as we're doing this,
and I had something covering up. I've got a clock
and it's covering up.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Half of one of these screens, and I'm just looking
at this actor's hands and I'm like, this guy has
the hands of like of a butcher from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Honest, he could joke somebody to death easily. A butcher
from Pittsburgh is just such an evocative he can just rip,
just rip, like the ribs are just shreds.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh my goodness. I mean, what are they gonna do?
He's like, what are they gonna do with if this guy?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I want somebody to just go full ridiculous, Like I
want this guy to win the uh, you know, to
win the Oscar and just admit that he was doing
this all to ridicule. Wouldn't it be amazing if somebody
just went full like Juwana man and just said, you
guys are such imbeciles. I would have never won the
Best Actor, but I decided I was gonna be a chick,
(30:47):
and now I've got to win.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
And you know, I read, sorry, I read the description
of this movie.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
There's no world in which this movie is not horrible.
Just reading the description.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
It's funny because the New York Times like an amazing
film unlike any other. I'm like, I read that it's
a it's a cartel drug kingpin who becomes trans and
then wants to like come back and hang out.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
With his or her whatever children, his children. Is this
a real story? No? Or is it totally made up?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean I would think I'm not an expert on cartels,
but I would think a dude running a cartel who
decided that he was a chick would have a hard
time getting dudes with machine guns walking around.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, it's a musical too. Producer Ali just pointed
out there are musical numbers in this as well. So
you got you know, you got those pigou, you got
this actor doing jazz hands with his big oven mix.
You know this big big ass hands.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Imagine that you were just a business person, and I
came to you, Buck, and I was like, Hey, I
got a brilliant idea. I'm gonna do a cartel movie.
You might be like, Okay, lots of interest in cartels, violence, drug,
probably a little bit of sex. Cartel guy's not known
for their great decision making. Okay, I can.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Work with it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And then I'm like, but the cartel leader decides he's
gonna get his penis chopped off and become a woman,
and he's worried about his relationship with his kids. And
it's a musical, and somebody was like, here's my checkbook,
just whatever you need.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This is that you can only make four films at
the studio this year. This is one of the four
we have to make.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
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Much discussion had.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Today about the border, also the demise of anti Trump media,
and Klain and I were sharing some of our first
hand recollections of the protests in DC, which were the
saddest anti Trump protests I have ever seen, and some
others have picked up on that as well.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So we can get to that here coming up in
just a few minutes. You'll see what I mean. I
think it's a particular moment of I don't know if
remission is the right word, retrenching, retreating. I think I
think definitely the anti Trump forces are in retreat. There's
(34:44):
no way around that.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And and you know, Clay, I actually would wager that
we were just talking about the oscars, that there's going
to be such a a either in ignoring of what's
going on with the oscars, because there's still a lot
of woke nonsense, or really just a fair amount of pushback.
(35:06):
You know, Hollywood is one of the last holdouts, strongest
holdouts of wokesm out there. Oh wait, hold on, do
you want to do you want to do we gotta
I'm switching gears here in real time. You want to
do this right now? Let's let's do that. Let's have
some fun with it, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
The mayor of Philadelphia, where the Eagles play football, The
mayor wanted to lead a chant and this is how
Philadelphia's mayor did with that a ow g.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yes, Venos, Let's go birds.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Play it again, Let's go one more time? Here she
goes he ow gee me yes, Venos, Let's go Berts.
I don't even understand. I mean, first of all, the
E A E E E A G L E.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
S eagles chant is famous for a long time, Right,
how do you go from E to L?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Like? I don't even know?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
It's It's not as if she just skipped a letter
right like it would be somewhat.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I would look at it.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'd be like, Okay, she just forgot to say A,
or she just forgot to say G.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
How do you go E to L?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like there is that There should be no part of
your brain that could skip that many letters, right, And
this to me is just in This is the mayor
emblematic of how many morons are running places. And most
of the time it doesn't matter until there is some major,
(36:40):
significant event and suddenly competence becomes incredibly important. I hope
nothing awful happens to Philadelphia because this chick, she ain't
it
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show our number two
as we are powering through and trying to bring even
more sanity to the world, stack in a lot of wins.
It's a good feeling after we felt like we were
in the midst of just trying to keep things from
falling completely down. And now every time I pick up
(00:21):
my phone and see a new headline, it's just another
good decision being implemented by Trump that is making the
country stronger, more rational, more reasonable, more sane, which is
the ultimate goal I think that anyone should have who
is out there right now wondering what the impact of
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the Trump regime is going to be. And there remains
almost no resistance and in fact, buck and this is
where I want to kind of dive into some of
the data here. In fact, the resistance continues to crumble
in legacy media. I went and looked the ratings for
CNN on inauguration Day collapsed by eighty three percent compared
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to what happened in twenty twenty one when Joe Biden
was inaugurated, also down massively from twenty seventeen when Trump
was inaugurated. There are reports that CNN anchors have been
instructed not to be super anti Trump because they are
desperately trying to figure out what their floor is. There
(01:34):
has been no commensurate wave of anti Trump anger that
served to lift frankly, a lot of media organizations in
the last Trump term. It's basically gone now. You and
I talked about driving through the resistance, the anti Trump
(01:55):
parade that was taking place in Washington, d C. On Saturday.
It was almost sad to look at. It was just
a few you know, maybe it was a few thousand,
but compared to what we've seen mobilized against Trump in
the past, they just looked utterly defeated. Like I actually
just kind of felt sad for them. We even pulled
up beside one woman, like kind of an older woman,
(02:17):
and like you and I, we kind of looked over
at her and we're like, like, this is how you
chose to spend your Saturday. It's like thirty six degrees
kind of spitting a wintry mix.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And she's got like some hot soup or something. Yeah,
she looked cold.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I just felt bad for and we're like, you know,
you're a seventy five year old woman surrounded by a
bunch of crazy trans purple haired lunatics beating on drums,
and I'm like, lady, you, I mean, why are you
out here in the court? Like I wanted to pick
her up in the car and just be like, can
we drive you home?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Grandma?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like I just felt sorry for That's what the Trump
resistance has become. You and I driving around and we
just feel bad that people are having to stand out
in the rain, and they don't even seem like they're
that into it. It's kind of a you know, half
hearted protests. They're not even really got much vigor.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It was like they it was like they signed up
for the anti fascism protests six months ago and just
felt like they needed to show up because they didn't
want to let down, you know, the the other purple haired, sad,
sad folks. But here's here's what I think on a
policy level is going on, or when you look at
the policies, rather what's going on they made all of
(03:31):
this or rather the anti Trump resistance this time around
was all about Trump and threats to democracy, and really
they didn't even feel the need in this election cycle
to make any particular arguments about about what, well, one,
what they would do that was good. As you know,
the Kamala campaign. I still don't know what Kamala Harris
(03:53):
thought she was running for. I mean, it's it's not clear.
It wasn't clear to her, so it's definitely not clear
to anybody observing her. But beyond that, Clay, I think
that they misread the mood of the country, which was
let's see what he does. I mean, clearly from the
election that's but okay, let's see what this guy actually
has in store for us, because they had overdone the
(04:15):
he's a Nazi, he's a fascist thing so much. And
let's just as a little side note here, the stuff
about Elon and the hint no one actually believes that
Elon Musk is a Nazi, so everybody or sympathizes with
or you know, and if he were.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He would be like the worst Nazi ever, right, And
that he decided until fifty four years old or whatever
he is to suddenly give a secret Nazi hand sign.
All of these things never add up in terms of
just basic logic. But yes, the fact that that is
their their storyline, I think is a sign of their desperation.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But this is a perfect example, though, of one of
these moments where you can say, anyone who is saying
that has no integrity whatsoever, no integrity whatsoever, because they
none of them believe it, none of them, even the
most hysterical leftists, none of them actually believe it. But
they see it as an opening to smear. But you
(05:09):
know came out. You know who came out to defend
Elon Musk on this. By the way, the Prime Minister
of Israel. I'm pretty sure former Special operations warrior and
current Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Nettan Yahoo not a
fan of Nazi salutes. But you know, this is the thing,
(05:29):
It's so obvious, it's so clear they simply do not
care if there's an opportunity to slander somebody like Elon Musk,
because Clay, they are so bitter ready. I think Elon
this is something we haven't talked about yet. I think
Elon is the second most hated person by the left
in America right now. I think Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is number one.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The no question they're most bitter at Trump. I think
Elon Musk is actually in the number two slot. I
think he has above jd Vance above. I mean, he's
certainly better known. I think that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think it is probably true that Elon has become
the second most hated person on the right. And he's
not on the lend by the left, but on the
right to say what I'm saying as left. Yet I'm
not even sure how far on the right he actually is.
I mean, the guy voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean it's I think.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
He's a I think Elon Musk a decade or two
ago would have been considered a moderate Democrat, even I'm
a lot of us out there thinks now, I don't
mean then. I mean his positions now would have been
moderate Democrat twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's how far left they've moved.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well as the media and by the way, on the
on the protest people, well you're talking about how, you know,
bedraggled and disinterested.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
They seemed they look.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do you remember when you would be in school and
you get extra credit if you went to an event,
but you didn't want to go to the event, but
you might have gone.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Just to prove to get the extra credit.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Like every now and then you teacher be like, hey,
if you guys go to this museum, or if you
go to this exhibit and you come at least we
did in school, and you come and you show me
that you did this in your free time. I'll give
you extra credit on whatever, and you begrudgingly go to
it because you need the extra credit. That's how I
felt like everybody at the protest march was walking around
(07:17):
like nobody actually wanted to be there on their own.
They were fulfilling some sort of obligation or necessity in
their lives to be there.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Felt like, can I just say, having covered a lot
of back in the day when I was at the
Blaze working for my man Glenn Beck, thank you Glenn,
I covered a lot of these left wing protests for them,
and there there was this sense that they were having
it was fun for them.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was a social activity for these leftis.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
This time around, it was like they were dragged to
annt Ethel's house for some holiday dinner that they didn't
want to eat, that it was going to come out
of the microwave, and the whole thing was kind of depressing.
That is what the protest was. There's no party, there's
no vibe. The little drum in the background was like
a little drum, just one yeah, baby, drum. There were
(08:03):
no there were really no uh you know, they used
to have celebrities would show up at these kinds of protests.
I mean even in twenty sixteen, you know they would have.
Didn't Madonna say something insane during inauguration week in twenty sixteen,
like you know about like Burt, like how she wanted
people to do bad things in the White House. I
don't I don't want to miss quote, but she said
something insane this time around. I know this word vibe
(08:26):
is overused, but there's no there's no vibe for the
for the anti trumpers. It's all very it's all very
going through the mechanics or I mean or going through
the motions of it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's very kind of sad. They're vanquished. And CNN is
vanquished too. I mentioned that they lost eighty three percent
of their inaugural audience. They tried in the initial aftermath
of the election to say, hey, well we still have
the ability. Uh you know that people just tune out
right after the election. There's a lot of loss of
(08:59):
enthusiasm when your side loses and people don't pay as
much attention. The numbers aren't coming back. They tried to say, hey,
as the inauguration happens, Trump comes into office, people will
come back for the news. They're dialing out for Thanksgiving
and Christmas and New Year's they haven't come back. January
was a disaster. Inauguration Day was a disaster for CNN,
(09:20):
And now this morning they announced that they were firing
two hundred people. That's six percent of their overall workforce.
So this is not an insubstantial reduction in staff. And
they also of probably the most zealous anti Trump I
would say person on air left at CNN is Jim Acosta.
(09:44):
They took away his ten AM show and they gave
it to Wolf Blitzer instead to kind of do a
more middle of the road news coverage. And reports our
buck that they have offered Jim Acosta a midnight slot
on CNN, and this is again according to different media
outlets out there reporting that he is furious and that
(10:07):
he is contemplating just walking out basically on CNN over
this emotion. Legacy media is in trouble at Fox News,
I think has a longer runway in cable than anyone.
Their ratings are continuing to surge, and I saw buck
where now Fox News has more viewers who are self
(10:27):
professed Democrats than CNN or MSNBC does. So I don't
know how long the runway is for Fox News. I
think it's hard to predict the cable satellite bundle and
how that's going to go. I don't even know what
percentage of our audience. Do you think still has a
cable subscription?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm seventy eighty, yeah, I would think. Okay, I don't know.
We haven't had a cable subscription for many many years now.
I don't know. You have YouTube TV? Is that what
you have to watch live? Just so I can watch
live news? And honestly, I think I'm gonna cut YouTube TV.
I don't watch it enough. These things are getting really expensive.
Netflix and all these.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh they keep raising prices, Yeah, they keep raising prices.
Everybody's Actually they used to say, oh, you know, a
la carte streaming, it'll save you money.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It hasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Actually, as I'm sure many of you have found out,
you're paying for Disney Plus or Hulu or Amazon Prime
or Netflix, and you're stacking all those premium subscriptions on
top of some people still have I do a cable
satellite package as well. My point on this is CNN's
basically waving the white flag and letting it be known
(11:33):
that their business is collapsing. And that's why they're trying
to get as many people off the books as they can.
And they're now saying we're going to pivot to digital.
I just don't know that CNN has a brand that
that many people. They're going to try to charge now
for people to go to CNN dot com who use
it all the time. I think this business is in
real trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Remember when they had CNN Plus and they took a
hundreds of millions of dollar hit just to shut the
whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You know, they could have listened to the buckster. I
was there in twenty fifteen. I tried to tell them
they were crazy. I tried to tell they didn't want
to hear it. They didn't want to listen to me.
They wanted to be mean.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And now sadness has descended across the land at CNN.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But they the thing is, they've they've earned this one.
They've lied to people, They've lied to the American people.
It's a dishonest entity, a dishonest organization. And this is
actually this has caused and effect. I mean this is
the consequence of decisions that they made. So I generally,
and I know it was as well. You should never
celebrate anyone losing their jobs. I don't celebrate people losing
(12:36):
their jobs, but I do celebrate CNN losing audience, which
is going to result in job losses because they were
hurting the country.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Here's a question for you, is we go to break
and maybe some of you out there have thoughts, I'd
be curious eight hundred and two two to two eight
a two. Is there anybody on the air at CNN
right now that could have a media career of a
substantial nature if they went independent? I mean, I'm just
tossing that out there right now. Is there anyone that
you have seen? I know a lot of these guys
(13:05):
have quote unquote names, but Don Lemon has falling flat
on his face, like nobody cares what Don Lemon is
doing or saying. I don't think people would follow Anderson Cooper.
I don't think they're going to follow Jim Acosta. Does
Jim Acosta have some huge fan base of people who
watch a show every night and would clamor to listen
to a podcast if he hosted it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
My point on that is we're moving into an era
where everyone has to compete on every front, and I
don't think CNN has any difference makers on its broadcast network.
Used to be it didn't matter they were the star
the CNN network was. Now now, if you don't bring stardom,
nobody pays attention to you. Maybe Scott Jennings could host.
(13:46):
Maybe he's going to get a show.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean what they could do, what they could
have done many years ago that might have worked, would
be a pivot to journalism, he said, yeah, to digital.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
They could do a pivot to journalism.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
The problem now is that model is very strained as well,
and there's so much information out there and people don't
need a twenty four hour drone droning voice in the background.
From the airport situation, remember the airport CNN stuff they paid,
See people and realize this CNN paid to be.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
On in the airports. It wasn't like the airports were
also happy to hell.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
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Speaker 3 (15:57):
We were just talking about how things are a little
rough ri at CNN.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
UH.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Congressman Burchett UH decided that he wasn't going to have
any of the nonsense uh from CNN, and this is
how one.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Of his exchanges went, I think this is cut ten
play it.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
This is not Fox, Congressman.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You can't just spin a tail and pull the wall
out of people's eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Now, this is CNN. This is the news we're asking him.
That's about and tell the truth.
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And that's why more people are watching the cartoon network
Spongebobb reruns right now. Jim, Look, I left the White
House here in a riot. My life was threatened. My
life has been threatened within the last few weeks. Yet
there's no coverage of that, and you all continue this,
this narrative of trap attacking Trump. You just can't stand
the fact that he won and that America spoke Congressman,
and your view is very dominic.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Clay, the this is CNN, sir, is an invitation to
be dunked on.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The timing on this is absolutely hysterical, and primarily because
Jim Acosta is getting a show removed and that he
has Tim burchett on who probably didn't know that at
the time, and just gets absolutely dunked on by the
fact that nobody's watching. Also the arrogance of Jim Acosta
to be saying, hey, this is CNN, this is not Fox.
(17:20):
I mean, Jim Acosta and CNN have spread more ridiculous
lies about Trump than anybody that I know, short of MSNBC,
so to claim, Look, the reason why people are not
watching CNN is because people have come to realize that
much of what CNN told them is untrue and it's
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hard to regain the public trust, which is why I
think CNN's brand is such. In the toilet, I got
a couple of ideas I jotted him down of who
I would hire if they made me head of CNN
to try to make a difference for them, But you're
talking about a multi year rebrand, and you'd have to
lose a lot of the audience that you have that's
remaining to the extent that you have. Any look, you
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Sexton show. All Right, I don't even quite under stand
how this has happened, But we've been discussing sanity returning
(19:06):
too much of America. It has not, however, returned to
Hollywood yet. The Oscar nominations came out. Can one of
you in the studio send me the Oscar nomination list.
I'm betting that I haven't seen very many of the movies,
if any. I honestly have no idea what movies would
(19:28):
even be nominated. And I bet I don't know most
of the actors or actresses that are nominated.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there are some movies that are
somewhat popular, But I did see this.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Have you seen the list? I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The one with the most nominations is called Emilia Perez.
I've never even I hadn't heard of this movie till I.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Just read this. Have you heard of this movie?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I had no The only reason, the only reason I
know anything about that. I know nothing much about that
movie except that the woman who's great in Marvel is
On is in that movie, Zoe Saldana, the one from
Guardians of the Galaxy that plays the Green, the green superhero.
That's the Here's the best Okay, here are the Best
(20:14):
Picture nominees. Buck the staff just sent them to me.
I mean, I'm looking at it right now. They're Honora
the Brutalist, a complete unknown Conclave, Wicked.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I didn't go see it, but I know Wicked obviously
based on the book that turned into a play. Dune
Part two. I went and saw that and it was good.
So I actually really liked Dune Part two. Encourage people
to go check that out. Amelia Perez Nickel Boys the Substance.
I'm still here now. I'm not claiming that I am
(20:51):
an expert in movies, but I like movies. I've only
heard of two of these movies, Wicked and Dune Part two.
Have you seen any of these movies in theater? Any
of the Best Picture nominees.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I don't go to movie theaters anymore. I have a
rule about this. Have you streamed any of them from
the comfort of your home? I've seen.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I saw Dune Part two. I like Dune the first
one very much. I've read the book a long time ago.
June two was not Christopher Walking as the Emperor was
a weird choice. That was my Look, why Christopher Walkin.
I just didn't get that. But oh, it's pretty good.
It also felt a little too.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know, a little too like kind of like
a Mid East ripoff to me. But it was pretty good.
It was pretty good. That's the only one that I've
seen to answer any other.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
All Right, So my point on this is they keep
talking about how they want to bring back the Oscars
and people are gonna watch, and how glamorous Hollywood is,
and there aren't really very many famous movies that everybody
comes together and went and saw of Wicked again and
done two both popular. Otherwise, I bet most of you
are like me, and you don't even know some of
these movies. So they have nominated a man pretending to
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be a woman and not like, hey, what was it
like Tom Hanks back in Bosom Book Buddies or something
back in the day or missus doubtfire it's.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Being done it. Well, didn't he do a show called
Bosom Buddies or something too?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I no I know, but I'm saying, wasn't my what's
his name? That's Dustin Hoffman who did.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Dustin Hoffman and TUTSI he was dressed as a woman,
but that's done, or like Missus Doubtfire with Tyler Perry,
or sorry with Missus Doubtfire with Robin Williams. Well, yeah,
that would be the black version of Missus Doubtfire, but
which exists the Medea movies is basically Missus Doubtfire except
a black woman instead.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All right, so that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm not talking about a guy playing a woman for
comedic effect and being nominated for a Best Picture. I'm
talking about a man who has decided that he is
now a woman and has been nominated as a woman.
A man has been nominated as a woman to win
Best Actress.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So we now have reached.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Not only are men winning women's championships in sports, now
it is possible that Hollywood is going to name as
a Best Actress a man who says he is a woman. Again,
it's an acting thing. So I'm not saying a man
pretending to be a woman, who would I guess you'd
be nominated Best Actors.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
This is a This is a transit woman. A trans
woman is what what we're talking about here. Has been
nominated for Best Actor.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Which has never happened to my knowledge before, but you
now have the potential that what is the greatest honor?
I think it's fair to say of any actor or
actress's career to be given an oscar as the best
performing actor or actress in a movie. Now a man
may be the best actress.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I just also think that this person is not
going to win because their performance as a woman is
not very convincing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't even know what the role is.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I see the picture and I'm like, I it was
it a trans person that this trans person was supposed
to be playing.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I'm not I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Is it maybe in that case then I suppose I
haven't seen the movie, so I can't speak to it.
But to be a best actress, wouldn't know, Clay, if
you were playing a trans person.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Wait, hold on a second, it's like we're crossing the streams.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I know it's getting difficult playing a trans woman then,
but you would be nominated for the best female like
the best female lead role, right, That's how that would do.
This is like I remember back in the day when
they were trying to teach you how to understand a sentence,
(24:45):
and you would get up and have to diagram diagram,
but I need like a diagram here if you are
a trans woman, why would you get a like if.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Your trans woman is just a man? Right, I'm trying
to visualize this in my head.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So yes, if you are, if you're a trans woman
and in real in your life, and then you're playing
a trans.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Woman in a uh in the thing, you're not really playing.
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, well, yeah,
you're not really acting.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You're not really thought so I thought you were like
trying to cancel out exponents or like no, no, you know,
using as trying. I can't even keep track of where
we're going. The thing that's so wild about this, And again,
women have to speak out about this because men just
don't allow it to happen. This is important culturally. Most
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of you can't even name a woman who decided that
she was a man and has attained a level of
uh success in masculine life. I don't mean like just
a normal job. I mean like you are considered to
be in some form or fashion and avatar of masculine masculinity.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It doesn't happen. Now.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
There are women who decide to become men, but they
just kind of typically destroy their careers because men are
like just kind of feel like, Okay, that's fine, but
we're not.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Gonna make you the avatar of masculinity. This is what
I was kind of thinking about before. So the actor
actor is Carlos Sophia Gascone who plays a drug kingpin
who undergoes quote gender affirming you know, transgender surgery. So
(26:32):
but to my point here, it's like, it's kind of cheating,
isn't it. You're an actor who's playing somebody who's trans,
like who goes.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Trans, but you are trans? Do you see what I mean? Yeah?
I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
This is their argument, though, Buck, which is kind of
crazy about this, is they have started to argue that
if you I mean and I can't. This is how
crazy all these rules have become. They have started to
argue that you are not allowed the whole point.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So let's take a step back. What is the whole
point of acting?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
To pretend to be something that you are not, right,
That is the essence of acting. That's all you do.
You pretend to be something or someone that you are not.
They now have started to say, Buck, what you're saying
is I don't think it would be permissible now for
someone who is not trans to be playing a trans role. So,
(27:21):
in other words, if you what you're saying, if you
are just a regular dude and you're like, hey, I'm
going to play this transactor or actress, it's considered to
be appropriation of the trans role for you to pretend
to be that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
This is how we've brought everything so full circle. Acting
is about pretending to be something that you are not.
But now you have to pretend to be something that
you are, because to pretend to be something that you're not,
if the thing that you are is a victim class,
you are appropriating.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's right. I think I think I got that. I
think I got that. Is that is the.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Rules that they have to apply now such that it's
I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Can I just tell something right now?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I'm looking I'm looking at this clay, I'm looking at
this right now, and I'm just I'm a little fired up.
All I have to see is see this guy's hands.
And no it's a guy. I just it's like the
Seinfeld with man hands, that one.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This This actor has man hands, I mean makes my
hands look like dainty little cabbage patch kid hands.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm just being honest, and we're supposed to say this
is a woman. Now, I've never seen actress? Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Sometimes people are like, I don't know why you're so judgmental?
Can you even tell who the man is?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I have a hot game because the answer is always yes, yes, yes,
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And if someone's saying that you can't tell, they're probably
lying to you. I'm talking about like if you have
you know, like if you have a lineup and you
have three women and one man pretending to be a woman,
I feel like I can go one hundred percent in
picking out the man right against actual women, Like it
(29:00):
doesn't seem very difficult. And a lot of people are
lying to these men and being like, oh, you look
like such a beautiful woman. I just women have to
stand up and can you imagine if this dude wins
the Best Actor.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No heterosexual man sees a man who is trying to
present as a woman and is sexually attracted to that,
because then they wouldn't be a heterosexual man. That's this
is the This is one of that they tried to
start to do this for while. I remember I brought
this up, this was years ago that it was transphobic.
For a straight guy not to be attracted to trans women.
This was a thing for a while. They tried to
(29:33):
push that, and and they couldn't get even the sort
of mainstream.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Left to go along with that. It was it was
too far. But I just it's funny because I was
looking on my on my computer Clay as we're doing this,
and I had something covering up. I've got a clock
and it's covering up.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Half of one of these screens, and I'm just looking
at this actor's hands and I'm like, this guy has
the hands of like of a butcher from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Honest, he could joke somebody to death easily. A butcher
from Pittsburgh is just such an evocative he can just rip,
just rip, like the ribs are just shreds.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh my goodness. I mean, what are they gonna do?
He's like, what are they gonna do with if this guy?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I want somebody to just go full ridiculous, Like I
want this guy to win the uh, you know, to
win the Oscar and just admit that he was doing
this all to ridicule. Wouldn't it be amazing if somebody
just went full like Juwana man and just said, you
guys are such imbeciles. I would have never won the
Best Actor, but I decided I was gonna be a chick,
(30:47):
and now I've got to win.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
And you know, I read, sorry, I read the description
of this movie.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
There's no world in which this movie is not horrible.
Just reading the description.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
It's funny because the New York Times like an amazing
film unlike any other. I'm like, I read that it's
a it's a cartel drug kingpin who becomes trans and
then wants to like come back and hang out.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
With his or her whatever children, his children. Is this
a real story? No? Or is it totally made up?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean I would think I'm not an expert on cartels,
but I would think a dude running a cartel who
decided that he was a chick would have a hard
time getting dudes with machine guns walking around.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, it's a musical too. Producer Ali just pointed
out there are musical numbers in this as well. So
you got you know, you got those pigou, you got
this actor doing jazz hands with his big oven mix.
You know this big big ass hands.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Imagine that you were just a business person, and I
came to you, Buck, and I was like, Hey, I
got a brilliant idea. I'm gonna do a cartel movie.
You might be like, Okay, lots of interest in cartels, violence, drug,
probably a little bit of sex. Cartel guy's not known
for their great decision making. Okay, I can.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Work with it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And then I'm like, but the cartel leader decides he's
gonna get his penis chopped off and become a woman,
and he's worried about his relationship with his kids. And
it's a musical, and somebody was like, here's my checkbook,
just whatever you need.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This is that you can only make four films at
the studio this year. This is one of the four
we have to make.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It sounds like just a mad lib made up idea
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Much discussion had.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Today about the border, also the demise of anti Trump media,
and Klain and I were sharing some of our first
hand recollections of the protests in DC, which were the
saddest anti Trump protests I have ever seen, and some
others have picked up on that as well.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So we can get to that here coming up in
just a few minutes. You'll see what I mean. I
think it's a particular moment of I don't know if
remission is the right word, retrenching, retreating. I think I
think definitely the anti Trump forces are in retreat. There's
(34:44):
no way around that.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And and you know, Clay, I actually would wager that
we were just talking about the oscars, that there's going
to be such a a either in ignoring of what's
going on with the oscars, because there's still a lot
of woke nonsense, or really just a fair amount of pushback.
(35:06):
You know, Hollywood is one of the last holdouts, strongest
holdouts of wokesm out there. Oh wait, hold on, do
you want to do you want to do we gotta
I'm switching gears here in real time. You want to
do this right now? Let's let's do that. Let's have
some fun with it, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
The mayor of Philadelphia, where the Eagles play football, The
mayor wanted to lead a chant and this is how
Philadelphia's mayor did with that a ow g.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yes, Venos, Let's go birds.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Play it again, Let's go one more time? Here she
goes he ow gee me yes, Venos, Let's go Berts.
I don't even understand. I mean, first of all, the
E A E E E A G L E.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
S eagles chant is famous for a long time, Right,
how do you go from E to L?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Like? I don't even know?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
It's It's not as if she just skipped a letter
right like it would be somewhat.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I would look at it.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'd be like, Okay, she just forgot to say A,
or she just forgot to say G.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
How do you go E to L?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like there is that There should be no part of
your brain that could skip that many letters, right, And
this to me is just in This is the mayor
emblematic of how many morons are running places. And most
of the time it doesn't matter until there is some major,
(36:40):
significant event and suddenly competence becomes incredibly important. I hope
nothing awful happens to Philadelphia because this chick, she ain't
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