November 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a packed lineup of breaking news, political analysis, and cultural commentary. The hour opens with an in-depth discussion on the Pentagon’s escalating war on drug cartels, featuring an exclusive interview with Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin. The Senator details the impact of 21 U.S. military strikes on Venezuelan narco-terrorist boats, explaining how these operations have disrupted fentanyl and cocaine supply chains, driven up street prices, and targeted cartel networks inside U.S. cities. He emphasizes the administration’s aggressive approach, including designating cartels as terrorist organizations and deploying DHS and DOT to dismantle distribution lines nationwide.
The conversation pivots to the Butler, Pennsylvania Trump assassination attempt revelations, where Clay and Buck press Senator Mullin on reports from Tucker Carlson and Miranda Devine alleging the shooter’s radicalization and violent online threats. Mullin voices skepticism about media-driven theories, stressing reliance on verified intelligence over speculation, while acknowledging the seriousness of politically motivated violence.
Next, the show dives into Rand Paul’s criticism of the legality of cartel strikes, prompting a fiery response from Senator Mullin, who defends the President’s constitutional authority and calls out Paul’s libertarian leanings. The segment also touches on college football culture as Mullen recounts attending the Alabama-Oklahoma game and reacts to news that Paul Finebaum may run for Senate in Alabama, praising citizens who step up for public service.
Clay and Buck then shift to Donald Trump’s latest remarks on affordability and inflation, highlighting his message that Democrats are weaponizing economic pain while Trump focuses on lowering prices and restoring prosperity. This leads to a candid discussion on cost-of-living challenges, illustrated by Clay’s $30 Subway meal anecdote, and broader concerns about tipping culture, inflationary pressures post-COVID, and America’s $37 trillion debt. The hosts explore how AI-driven productivity gains could reshape future pricing and economic stability.
The hour closes on a lighter note with a viral moment involving Kayleigh McEnany teasing Clay Travis for drinking Whispering Angel rosé at the Patriot Awards, sparking humorous banter about wine preferences, masculinity, and social etiquette.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now, and over the weekend, the Pentagon conducted the
twenty first known strike on a drug trafficking boat. This
continuing on here. The War on drugs looking more like
an actual war these days than any time in a
long time. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen joins us right now
(00:24):
and appreciate you joining. Senator.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you for your time, absolutely thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So these strikes, there's a lot of questions that people
are asking about them. Some just want to know more,
Some obviously very much are opposing them in the media,
including some Republicans, some Senate colleagues, or at least one
I can think of. Let's talk about whether they're working.
Are they What can we say about how effective these
strikes are at this point? Do we not know? Is
(00:52):
there a drop infentanol importation via these boats? You know,
cause I think that's a big part of whether or
not we can say that this is a program that
the American people are going to continue with.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I think it's important for us to see the
big picture, and so I'll get to that in just
a second. But let's talk about what your questions were,
have we seen a dropping, Fittonel. We've seen a dropping
and cocaine drafting. Absolutely, and the biggest measuring stick to
that is the price on the street. I know it
sounds crazy, but you know, everything is supplying demand. We've
seen a significant increase in the price of fentanyl, in
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the price of cocaine because their shipping lanes are being
cut off. The President is being very proactive on his approach.
Rather than waiting until it gets to our shores, he
has taken approach that we're going to destroy it in
international water, which has put everybody on notice because it's
not just coming out of Venezuela. You know, we saw
(01:49):
an attack on we saw us taking out an Narco
boat in the Pacific too, And so what the President
is doing here because he realizes that we've lost more
Americans in twenty twenty four. We haven't got the statistics
het for twenty twenty five, but in twenty twenty four,
we lost more Americans to fit and all and other
drug overdoses inside the United States, and we did the
(02:10):
entire Vietnam War. That's a staggering number. Because every single
one of your listeners, including yourself and I know somebody
that has been affected by this drug war that has
come to our hometowns, be it the small the small
town like West of Loklahoma, or a large metropolitania like
Dallas Fort Worth. It has affected all of our streets,
(02:34):
has affected all of our friends and family. It's affected
some of us. So what the President has done is
he's done a full court approach.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's not just about.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Taking out the drug boats and narco boats, but it's
also about getting rid of their supply lines of once
it gets into the United States, the distribution lines plus
the cash flowing back out to the cartels. The President
deemed the cartels a terrorist organization. What allowed is the
(03:05):
full way to the United States to come in. And
so you see DHS, you know Secretary Gnome and and
Ice going into these major metropolitan areas. A lot of
people think it's just about deporting illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's also disturbing their their supply lines. We see a
Department of Transit Transportation with Secretary Duffy that's doing stops
inside the United States. There's a actual as we speak,
there's an operation going on in Oklahoma right now where
we're stopping trucks, we're doing drugs or searches, but we're
(03:43):
also arresting illegals their supply lines. With the illegals that
are coming into the United States illegally, the drug the
gangs like MS thirteen and other games that are being
used to distribute and uh and supply different areas inside
of the United States, DHS is taking a hard look.
(04:04):
So we're pushing them from the end of their supply
all the way back into Venezuela, back in New Mexico,
back where it's going.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Plus we're being proactive with.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The drugs coming into the United States. So it's the
first time ever ever that we've had a full pledge,
all out assault on the drug cartels and we're having
a huge, huge impact. So a lot of people need
to look past just the narco boats, but also understand
what we're doing inside our cities and on our interstates.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Senator how trouble Buck and I started off the show
today talking about the revelations I'm sure you've seen them
from Tucker Carlson Miranda Divine about the would be Trump
assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania, the fact that he appears to
have been radicalized on YouTube, posting violent threats in the
comments there. Again, this is based on their reporting. We
(04:58):
have been told, hey, we'll never know really the motivations
of this guy from our FBI, based on the reports
that I've seen. How troubled are you that these media
investigations seem to show trans related connections and an incredibly
violent commentary under the guy's own name on YouTube. Should
(05:21):
we be concerned about this and what should happen going
forward as it pertains to that assassination investigation.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well, I think there's no one more motivated to get
to the root of the problems than President Trump. He's
the one that got his ear shot, and he's the
one that they've tried to assassinate two different times, and
so he's extremely motivated to prevent, honestly from happening to
him again. Plus the Secret Service, and then you take
Cash a Tail who loves the president, and Pam Bondi,
(05:51):
who loves the president.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We all do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We're all walking in the same direction, in the same boat.
We're all in the same direction. I kind of take
a step back when you chase so many conspiracies, especially
some of these news reporters, if they want to call
on that or commentary or talk show host when they
constantly are chasing conspiracy theories and they believe a conspiracy
(06:13):
theory is the truth because anybody can say something online
and you can run an AI search and it doesn't
do a deep dive for you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
All that does is.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Take the information that's on the Internet, and you can
persuade any algorithm to come up with whatever you want
it to come up with. And so I always take
a step back. I believe in facts, and it's really
hard for me to believe that someone like Tuckle Carlson
would have a better research department than the FBI. I
read Intel reports on this stuff, a lot of stuff
(06:45):
that the public won't be able to see because they
don't have the same topic clearances, which it will be
very hard for a lot of this stuff to be released,
because it's not that we're trying to protect the shooter's identity.
It's because we try to protect the trade craft on
how we access this information. And in a lot of times,
when we see how we gather that trade that information,
(07:07):
it releases the trade craft that these I see the
intelligence community uses.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I have seen.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Nothing period to support Tucker Carlson's theory on this one.
I'm not saying it can't be realistic, but I just
don't believe it until I actually see it, don't. I
don't have time to chase theories.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Speaking of Senator Mark Wade Mullen and you sure you're
on the Armed Services Committee, I want to just pivot
back for a second to the drug boat strikes twenty
one so far over eighty people killed. Senator Ram Paul,
your Republican colleague is very against these. He has recently
said things.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Like colorandas the Republican colleague is pretty loose lipped.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So I mean he is a Republican colleague, you know.
Can we can talk about how you feel about that,
but he definitely is a Republican senator. So well, what
do you think about the concerns about legality when it
comes to these strikes?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, I don't. I think the president's well within his.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Authority to do so, because see it's very clear that
these are terrorist organizations. They are attacking us, attacking our streets,
or domestic terrorists plus foreign terrorists. The President is well
within his rights to be able to protect a United
States citizens home and abroad, not in our intellectual property
and our person self. It's that's well within within his
(08:32):
constitutional authority to do so. And so for rand Paul
to quote that, I always what I always say is say, okay,
give me in the constitution where it's not in his
authority to do that, because people always say it's outside
the constitution. Okay, to show me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Show me.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The Constitution is very very thin. It's not hard to read.
It's you can read it in twenty minutes if you
want to pull out the part that Ran Paul is
talking about. But this is the same Ram Paul that
it does doesn't vote with Republicans, doph and government. He
just recently was trying to support his plan to enhance
(09:08):
THHC levels for consumption in drinks because he thought it
was good for Kentucky's not joking, good for Kentucky's industry,
for hemp industry. This is the same ram Paul that
is constantly looking for an opportunity to run against the
President of the United States, and so he's looking for
an opportunity anytime he can to distance himself. I would
(09:31):
be a lot better off if ram Paul just called
himself what he is. He's a libertarian, I'm perfectly okay
with that. But he can't get elected as a Libertarian
in Kentucky, so he.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Decides to run as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know, I have more respect for Thomas Massey than
I do Ram Paul because at least Thomas Matthew owns
who he is. Ram Paul is just whoever he feels
like to be.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That day, we're.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Talking to center Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. You were
a big football game over the weekend. This is much
less serious than everything else. I know you were hanging
out with Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There is topic between Alabama and Oklahoma football, very serious topic.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
So you were at that game with your with senner
Katie Britt of Alabama. We just had you may not
you probably don't know this because we just had him on.
But Paul Finbaum, who I know, you know SEC network commentator,
is thinking about running for senate in Alabama. You were
at the Alabama Oklahoma game. Congrats to the Sooners, huge
win there. What do you think of Paul Feinbaum as
(10:33):
a potential senate colleague from Alabama? And for everybody out
there listening, you've got the opportunity to go after some
Alabama fans over the big win and celebrate for all
the Oklahoma's out there listening.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, first of all, Alabama was very gracious. I have
never been to an SEC king outside of Norman, Oklahoma.
It was amazing. Hats off to Alabama, Hats off to
their fans. How my hat's off to Tuscaloosa because that
whole town turns out for football and it was an
amazing environment. Glad we pulled off the wind. But in
(11:09):
the little part I was like, Oh, I'm kind of
almost sad for this group because this whole town goes
has to go into depression now because they got beat
by the University of Oklahoma. But it was it was
you know, we had the first pick six. I was
setting in the president's box for the University of Alabama
and super nice guy and I hollered because I got
(11:29):
my OWU you know, wrestling because my son wrestles through
University of Oklahoma, and I got my OU wrestling shirt on,
and uh one the guy's walked up to me and
he says, I was going to give you I'm using
clean language here. I was going to give you crap
about hollering in the president's box. But I thought better
of it. When I saw your shirt said wrestling, we
just kind of laughed about it. But that was kind
of group it was. Now, as far as anybody, this
(11:50):
isn't particular for anybody. As far as anybody willing to
put their name on any ballot and run for any office,
I don't care if it's school board, city council, mayor
state rep, state senate, sheriff, county commissioner, or for a
federal office. I commend you for doing that, And no
one knows what type of person that canon's going to be.
(12:13):
But we need good people that have a passion for
our country, not a passion for a title to run
for to run for office, and my measuring stick is
that this is your best job you've ever had, then
I would question your ability to do what is best
(12:33):
for your decision making because if it's the most money
you've made and it's the it's the biggest title you've had,
then are you willing to fire yourself? Because we're all
somewhat self employed, but we have a whole bunch of
shareholders across our state and we're the chairman of the board.
To some degree, our board can fire us in any given time.
(12:55):
But it's pretty hard to be to be fired because
you can get your votes right half at the time.
It's either yes or no. It's just how you articulate
yourself and what type of tough votes are you willing
to take. And so for anybody, anybody to stand up
and run great, just had the right motives to do so.
And anybody's sides run, We're gonna sit down, We're going
(13:16):
to talk to them, and we may or may not
get involved in the primary. It really depends. Usually I
don't get involved in primaries unless it's somebody I know personally,
But when they win the primary, we're all in to
get them across the finish line to let them come
be part of the team.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Outstanding stuff. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, congrats to the Sooners.
I'm glad that you had the wrestling shirt on so
the president didn't come after you too hard. At the
University of Alabama, and Buck's been down there and can
speak for the hospitality of the people of Tuscaloosa. First
game Buck ever went to was Old Miss Alabama college football.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was amazing. I had all these fraternity brothers handing
me red plastic cups and saying they love out. It
was quite a scene.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It was an amazing book. It's an amazing environment. I've
never seen e they like that in my life. I
want to go back just to just enjoy the environment,
just when they're not playing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You know, the University of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Centator.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We appreciate the time. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Thanks, see you guys. Bye.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Mark Waye
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Bucks like the royal rumble? There did he did? He
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it sounds it sounds a little bit tougher than I mean.
(16:01):
It's a wrestling move, I promise.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Look I throwing elbows. I do think we should talk
more because he seemed very skeptical of to be fair,
what we started the show with, which is the New
York Post Miranda Divine you have her on tomorrow, so
you will be able to walk through all of this
directly with her and Tucker Carlson's revelations on the would
(16:25):
be assassin's social media accounts. Now, I'm not an expert
in deep dive investigations, thankfully when it comes to criminal
related issues. But I read and looked at this. It
looked very real to me. It doesn't seem like something
that is faked. But I don't know, I mean, what's
your take on that. I mean, look, Tucker's team came
(16:48):
out with it, they said they vetted it. I think
that at some level, when you are seeing some of
the names that are involved in this, this is a
This is an issue a fact. This is not an
issue of opinion, and so to get an issue of
fact like this very wrong, which would then lead to
The New York Post, Daily Mail other top global news
(17:10):
sources reporting on it as fact incorrectly as well. We've
talked about it, obviously attributing it it's not our reporting,
but attributing the reporting to the initial source that that.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Would be a big error. But I think that this
is pretty straightforward.
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from the trump Ster for a little bit. Here some
of the most important soundbites from last night. Trump weighing
(19:03):
in on a whole range of things. For one thing,
I want to start with this clay affordability is what
Democrats think gives them back the control of the House.
I think that is they're gonna be all in on
this price of housing, affordability, class warfare. Pay your fair share,
We'll give you free healthcare. I think that's the big thing.
Trump has to lead the Republicans. I know he's not
(19:26):
on the ballot again, he has to lead the Republicans
in the It's not even just counter messaging. Just have
a better message, right The counter messages. Yeah, they're lying
about it, and they're idiots. They don't know what they're doing.
But also, here's what is being done, and here's Trump
talking about this. Play cut one.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
What they've done to our country is a very busy
but we are correcting it. We have strong voters down,
we have a great economy. The prices are coming down.
The Democrats, like he used the word affordability, but their
affordability was terrible. The problem with the Democrats say live
they do it so well. They talk about affordability, but
(20:02):
I'm the one that's cutting the prices down. As an example,
they had the highest inflation in the history of our country.
I have it down now to a normal level. Kind
it's going down further.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think what he's saying is very true. Play but
I worry that our side assumes a little bit and
the Trump faithful will look at this and say, the
data is on our side, so we should be good. Right.
Democrats don't care. They're going to say whatever they have
to say. It doesn't matter that they had the worst
inflation in forty years under Biden. The Trump is bringing
(20:35):
under control. They're going to tell people things are expensive,
and Trump's in charge. It's his fault.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, look, I mean the data doesn't change the prices.
I went to subway last night with my fifteen year
old Subway. Oh I love subway?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah? Oh yeah, you don't like subway. I can't eat
the bread, so I can't really do well.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So here's an example of something where my eyebrows get raised.
Each had six inch subs, right, and a drink and
a chips.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thirty dollars.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Thirty dollars for two six inch subs, some chips and
a drink. Now you can say, you know, what do
you think it should cost to me? It should be
twenty dollars, right, And then they want me to tip right,
which gets into a whole nother dynamic where everything that
you buy now they give you the tip response, even
(21:29):
when you know it's a fast food restaurant.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now, can I give you? Can I give you my
my sense on this? By the way, because this is
something that I've decided. You know what, people work hard.
You know, neither you nor I are worried about our
month to month bills. They both have been at times
in our lives totally, but you and I do not
worry about month to month bills. Now, I will never
forget being in my thirties after you know, serving in
(21:53):
a couple of war zones and working for over a decade,
and I had five hundred dollars to my name, you
know the thing like the Dave rams or whatever you
got to get the thousand dollars emergency. I did not
have the thousand thousand dollars fund. See, okay, I was
in my thirties, did not have the thousand dollar emergency fund.
That as a fact. But I just decide, now, you
know what just just tipping is now just a way
(22:15):
of thanking people for just showing up and doing a job.
You know what I'm saying. It's not like, oh, you
gave me great service, I'm gonna give you thirty percent.
Clay the coffee in my neighborhood. Obviously, I have a
coffee company. I drink Crocket every day, but occasionally I
want to be social. I meet someone for a cup
of coffee or something. It's like nine dollars for a
while over there, Yeah, nine dollars and then if I
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but again, I think of this now, if you're in
a position to fine, you know the people. I know
the people in there they show up, they're kind, they
work hard. I give them thirty percent, I give them
twenty five percent whatever. And just because I think if
you start to think of this the way we used
to think of tipping as a incentive for good service,
you're gonna go insane because everyone wants a tip for it.
I tip now when I do takeout food.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yes, I decided when I had a public job that
people could say a lot of awful things about me.
I legitimately don't think. I think we could open phone
lines right now. And to the extent that anybody who's
ever been a waiter at a restaurant I've ever been to,
I think every one of them would call it and
be say, Clay Travis a great tipper. So I decided
a long time ago when I started doing radio.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But I also can I say it's also just good.
I'm not sure if one believes in karma. I used
that not in the religious sense, but in just the
you know, the passing along. Look, you've been very fortunate
in life, You've done incredibly well. You know, it can
really make someone's day a little brighter when you throw
them a thirty percent tip on that, you know, whatever,
One hundred dollars meal two hundred whatever it is, right,
(23:40):
I mean, it's just it's it's kind of a high
five to people who are working hard and having worse.
So I'm just saying I've had because I've had to.
I've talked to my wife about this because she's like,
what do you I'm now, I just I just hit
whatever it is, the twenty I just hit it. Don't
think about it. Hit it, don't think. But I'm not
saying all of everyone. I get it. People are people
have to do what's within their budget. But I just
mean it. If you're in a position to just sort
(24:00):
of take a different philosophy on this one, I just think,
tip big and don't think twice about it. Is the
is just the only way forward.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's a good it's a good life, I think for
those of us who can afford it. Thirty dollars buck
though fifteen dollars each for a six inch sub And
this was not to the extent you guys don't go
to a subway. This was a chicken sandwich and like
a turkey and cheese sandwich, right, not even we're not
talking about the most high end to the extent that
(24:30):
there are any This is not lobster and caviare on
the buns right. Thirty dollars to me, it seems like
it should cost twenty. This, I think is the biggest
challenge that Trump has when it comes to affordability. It's
not the truth, which is he has slowed the rate
of price increases. It's that things went up so fast
(24:53):
you snapped your fingers and overnight everything started costing thirty
five percent more than it used to when Joe Biden
became president.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Joe Biden's not president.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Now things still cost thirty five percent more than you
think they should. Again, I bought that thirty dollars subway
I paid, and I thought to myself, how is a
subway meal for me and my fifteen year old thirty
dollars now a six inch not even buying a foot long?
How is it that expensive? And I think every time
(25:24):
people go to the grocery store. I think every time
people go through fast food, you look at the bill
and you just say, this is too much, and this
makes me angry. So I think the biggest challenge Trump
has is how awful Biden was, because it's it's gonna
take years for people to come to recognize what things
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cost now, and he's trying to address it. He's doing
an event today on affordability. He's been trying to address
prices in a way that is making them better.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Positive.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Gas prices are actually lower, adjusted for inflation than they
have been in most of our lives. They're down four
year lows right now. I know they tick up sometimes
back and forth, and people respond. Different states have different prices,
different taxes on it. Those of you in California are screwed,
as we talked about with Steve Hilton last week. But
(26:20):
I think it's the number one issue that Trump faces now.
Borders better, Crime is getting so much better. And again
it can take a while for the perception to reflect
the reality, but I think most people out there feel
like crime is getting better, not that it's fixed, but
it's better, Borders fixed.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think it's the number one issue. We also border
and the economy. Those are the two and they were
the main things in the last election. And now when
we say the economy, I really do think it's cost
of living now there is a I'm not I'm not
somebody who necessarily thinks this is going to happen. I
(27:00):
think it's possible, but some of the productivity gains that
should come from from AI and from technology could have
dramatic price factor as or could dramatically factor into pricing
in ways that matter to all of us. The world
is going to change very rapidly, my friends, over the
next five to ten years, and there are so many
(27:22):
ways that we can start to think about this. But
the ability, for example, to program into your car where
to go and it just drives you. That's already here,
that's already happening, and that's going to have a dramatic effect.
Not just on the economics of who are drivers for
a living, which is a big concern, what happens to
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the millions of people who are making a living driving
right now, but Clay also in the efficiencies of delivery
and the cost of goods to get them from one
place to another. And there's a lot of increases in
productivity that are going to happen that I think will
help on this price issue. But fundamentally we also have
to look at this as COVID essentially turned into a
(28:05):
let's just see how much we can inflate our currency game.
You cannot pay people to stay home and do nothing
and not have a massive effect on your currency. Otherwise,
they should just give everybody a million dollars tomorrow, just
the federal government. You know, we're all paying well not
all of us, but a lot of us are paying taxes.
Federal government could just send you a million dollar wire tomorrow.
Wouldn't make any difference, right, Oh no, It'll destroy our
(28:26):
currency and destroy our economy. COVID was a massive inflation
event for the country that we are still dealing with.
Some of us were warning about it then, but people
were like, oh my gosh, baucchi, it's so scary, fauci auci.
And then on top of that, we have a thirty
seven trillion dollar debt and we monetize the debt. We
carry all this stuff on the Fed balance sheet, and
(28:48):
then we pay for it ourselves by putting out the treasuries.
And the whole thing is a mess. This is debasing
the currency. We're debasing the currency. And then we turn
out and say why is the currency being debased and
why are things more at expensive? Because as a matter
of bipartisan policy, we continue to do that. Now Trump
is a lot better than the other side. He's trying
to get it under control. But that's still thirty seven
(29:09):
trillion dollars. Nothing is even beginning to deal with that issue.
So is a challenge, and again I think it's.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Something that is going to be hard to get resolved
by twenty twenty six. And the challenge is people are angry,
and when you try to respond to anger over price issues,
you risk looking like you don't understand their.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Anger, which makes them angrier. And so again I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I spent thirty dollars for two six inch subway meals
last night, and subway is supposed to be an affordable
place to go.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And again this was not like some super high end meal.
Did they have whispering angel rose at subway? Clay? Because
I hear that's your favor belief, can't believe it? Yeah,
I'm sorry, it's just your first tale.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Mcainey, Now, buck, I never know when I'm just going
to get level, going over the middle thinking we're going
to commercial break right now?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Do we have that? Can we have it? We come
back a stunning revelation about our friend mister mister mountain
dude drinking Tiva sandal wearing or something like that. Rainbow sandals.
You were rainbow sand rainbow sandals wearing Yeah, rainbow sandals
wearing Subway and Chick fil A eating Clay Travis. He
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we were doing a little television hit over the weekend,
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Two guys walk up to a mic Hey, anything goes
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Speaker 4 (32:11):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
I'm gonna have to get ahead of this sorry metastasizing
in a negative way. I think to myself, you know
what what could go wrong if I did a Fox
News hit on Saturday morning for our friend Kaylee mccannaney's
new very successful Saturday morning Fox News show, And especially
(32:32):
the case when I'm doing it with my good chum
Buck Sexton. So I sit down and as the hit
is going on, this outrageous attack upon my character aired
for millions of people, and now it's going to air
for millions more. Listen, Buck, when you come back, I'm
gonna tell you about what I caught Clay.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Drinking, whispering angel a women's rose. I caught him drinking
at the Patriot Awards, a great alcohol at the table,
whispering angel for Clay Travis. Thank you guys. Can I
just love that Kayley Mcanitty, who was so delightful and wonderful,
throwing a little elbow in your ribs right before the
(33:16):
right before you're basically cut off the mic there, buddy,
you know you know she she hip checked you. What
is it in the hockey when you hip check somebody
and they go over the the thing we're on the side.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was like the boards you got of the boards? Yeah,
and look she just tweeted this as well, sharing the video.
I did not take at Clay Travis to be a
whispering angel man at Buck Sexton look stunned.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now, I'm not a wine guy.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I have I have for years on this program, pointed out,
and we always get angry emails whenever I say this,
all of you buying your thousand dollars wine, no idea
what you if you have a couple of glasses of
you can't tell a thousand dollars wine from a fifty
dollars wine.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
This is like Clay talking about classical music. The barbarians
are winning. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I at Julie Talbot's big induction into the Hall of Fame,
well deserved Hall of Fame induction, there was a gentleman
there who had a huge, big bottle of wine and
it was like a two thousand dollars bottle of wine
jumbo thing. I had a glass and I said, man,
it tastes just like almost as good as the box
(34:29):
wine I had back in the day. Now here's the
deal with this is at the Patriot Awards. The Patriot
Awards great event lasts like three hours, and when you
sit down at the table, all they had was water
and wine, And unlike Jesus, I can't turn water into wine.
(34:52):
So I just decided that I was going to drink
the wine, and I took the bottle of wine. Tommy
Larren sitting next to me, Kaylee mcadaney's new Me and
I just poured myself a glass.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
So you're sitting with two lovely, lovely blonde ladies and
you decide to join in on their favorite beverage and
have some chick wine right there, That's how this goes.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I thought, why would I be mean to them and
make a big fuss because there wasn't bourbon, or there
wasn't my beverage of choice, I being the generous person
that I am.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Also Emily Compagno's same.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Table, Jesse Waters, Benny Johnson and uh and and I thought, hey,
I don't want to be the stuck up guy who's
going to fight back against the rose. And you know what,
it tasted pretty good. I'm not gonna lie. But she
took a photo of me, and now she has attacked
me on air. This reminds me of the Brussels Sprouts
(35:46):
debate when remember when Jesse Kelly got furious at me
for ordering Brussels sprouts, for thinking about everyone else my harm. Well,
he was trying to get back at you, uh for
order Oh no, you were wait no, who ordered the seventy?
He ordered this mouhot. So he's the bad guy in
all these things. My only flaw is that I care
too much and that I'm just too kind when I'm
(36:07):
sharing a table with people, I'm not picky. I'll drink
your rose, I'll order Brussels sprouts. I'll even let you
order seventy five dollars shots.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I do think that there is a rule where you
don't lose your man card if you're on a vacation
to a warm place and you just want to try
the froze. You know, it looks so inviting. It's like
a slushy with the booze in it. If you're gonna
froze all day. I guess rose could be okay, I believe. Also.
(36:39):
I went with the the.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Lighter colored wine because I was afraid that I might
spill it on myself too, which, for anybody out there
who knows me, is probably a good move. Outrageous attack.
We'll have more outrageous attacks, and when we return on
playing back,
Welcome everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now, and over the weekend, the Pentagon conducted the
twenty first known strike on a drug trafficking boat. This
continuing on here. The War on drugs looking more like
an actual war these days than any time in a
long time. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen joins us right now
(00:24):
and appreciate you joining. Senator.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you for your time, absolutely thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So these strikes, there's a lot of questions that people
are asking about them. Some just want to know more,
Some obviously very much are opposing them in the media,
including some Republicans, some Senate colleagues, or at least one
I can think of. Let's talk about whether they're working.
Are they What can we say about how effective these
strikes are at this point? Do we not know? Is
(00:52):
there a drop infentanol importation via these boats? You know,
cause I think that's a big part of whether or
not we can say that this is a program that
the American people are going to continue with.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I think it's important for us to see the
big picture, and so I'll get to that in just
a second. But let's talk about what your questions were,
have we seen a dropping, Fittonel. We've seen a dropping
and cocaine drafting. Absolutely, and the biggest measuring stick to
that is the price on the street. I know it
sounds crazy, but you know, everything is supplying demand. We've
seen a significant increase in the price of fentanyl, in
(01:29):
the price of cocaine because their shipping lanes are being
cut off. The President is being very proactive on his approach.
Rather than waiting until it gets to our shores, he
has taken approach that we're going to destroy it in
international water, which has put everybody on notice because it's
not just coming out of Venezuela. You know, we saw
(01:49):
an attack on we saw us taking out an Narco
boat in the Pacific too, And so what the President
is doing here because he realizes that we've lost more
Americans in twenty twenty four. We haven't got the statistics
het for twenty twenty five, but in twenty twenty four,
we lost more Americans to fit and all and other
drug overdoses inside the United States, and we did the
(02:10):
entire Vietnam War. That's a staggering number. Because every single
one of your listeners, including yourself and I know somebody
that has been affected by this drug war that has
come to our hometowns, be it the small the small
town like West of Loklahoma, or a large metropolitania like
Dallas Fort Worth. It has affected all of our streets,
(02:34):
has affected all of our friends and family. It's affected
some of us. So what the President has done is
he's done a full court approach.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's not just about.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Taking out the drug boats and narco boats, but it's
also about getting rid of their supply lines of once
it gets into the United States, the distribution lines plus
the cash flowing back out to the cartels. The President
deemed the cartels a terrorist organization. What allowed is the
(03:05):
full way to the United States to come in. And
so you see DHS, you know Secretary Gnome and and
Ice going into these major metropolitan areas. A lot of
people think it's just about deporting illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's also disturbing their their supply lines. We see a
Department of Transit Transportation with Secretary Duffy that's doing stops
inside the United States. There's a actual as we speak,
there's an operation going on in Oklahoma right now where
we're stopping trucks, we're doing drugs or searches, but we're
(03:43):
also arresting illegals their supply lines. With the illegals that
are coming into the United States illegally, the drug the
gangs like MS thirteen and other games that are being
used to distribute and uh and supply different areas inside
of the United States, DHS is taking a hard look.
(04:04):
So we're pushing them from the end of their supply
all the way back into Venezuela, back in New Mexico,
back where it's going.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Plus we're being proactive with.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
The drugs coming into the United States. So it's the
first time ever ever that we've had a full pledge,
all out assault on the drug cartels and we're having
a huge, huge impact. So a lot of people need
to look past just the narco boats, but also understand
what we're doing inside our cities and on our interstates.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Senator how trouble Buck and I started off the show
today talking about the revelations I'm sure you've seen them
from Tucker Carlson Miranda Divine about the would be Trump
assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania, the fact that he appears to
have been radicalized on YouTube, posting violent threats in the
comments there. Again, this is based on their reporting. We
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have been told, hey, we'll never know really the motivations
of this guy from our FBI, based on the reports
that I've seen. How troubled are you that these media
investigations seem to show trans related connections and an incredibly
violent commentary under the guy's own name on YouTube. Should
(05:21):
we be concerned about this and what should happen going
forward as it pertains to that assassination investigation.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well, I think there's no one more motivated to get
to the root of the problems than President Trump. He's
the one that got his ear shot, and he's the
one that they've tried to assassinate two different times, and
so he's extremely motivated to prevent, honestly from happening to
him again. Plus the Secret Service, and then you take
Cash a Tail who loves the president, and Pam Bondi,
(05:51):
who loves the president.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We all do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
We're all walking in the same direction, in the same boat.
We're all in the same direction. I kind of take
a step back when you chase so many conspiracies, especially
some of these news reporters, if they want to call
on that or commentary or talk show host when they
constantly are chasing conspiracy theories and they believe a conspiracy
(06:13):
theory is the truth because anybody can say something online
and you can run an AI search and it doesn't
do a deep dive for you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
All that does is.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Take the information that's on the Internet, and you can
persuade any algorithm to come up with whatever you want
it to come up with. And so I always take
a step back. I believe in facts, and it's really
hard for me to believe that someone like Tuckle Carlson
would have a better research department than the FBI. I
read Intel reports on this stuff, a lot of stuff
(06:45):
that the public won't be able to see because they
don't have the same topic clearances, which it will be
very hard for a lot of this stuff to be released,
because it's not that we're trying to protect the shooter's identity.
It's because we try to protect the trade craft on
how we access this information. And in a lot of times,
when we see how we gather that trade that information,
(07:07):
it releases the trade craft that these I see the
intelligence community uses.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I have seen.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Nothing period to support Tucker Carlson's theory on this one.
I'm not saying it can't be realistic, but I just
don't believe it until I actually see it, don't. I
don't have time to chase theories.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Speaking of Senator Mark Wade Mullen and you sure you're
on the Armed Services Committee, I want to just pivot
back for a second to the drug boat strikes twenty
one so far over eighty people killed. Senator Ram Paul,
your Republican colleague is very against these. He has recently
said things.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Like colorandas the Republican colleague is pretty loose lipped.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So I mean he is a Republican colleague, you know.
Can we can talk about how you feel about that,
but he definitely is a Republican senator. So well, what
do you think about the concerns about legality when it
comes to these strikes?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, I don't. I think the president's well within his.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Authority to do so, because see it's very clear that
these are terrorist organizations. They are attacking us, attacking our streets,
or domestic terrorists plus foreign terrorists. The President is well
within his rights to be able to protect a United
States citizens home and abroad, not in our intellectual property
and our person self. It's that's well within within his
(08:32):
constitutional authority to do so. And so for rand Paul
to quote that, I always what I always say is say, okay,
give me in the constitution where it's not in his
authority to do that, because people always say it's outside
the constitution. Okay, to show me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Show me.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
The Constitution is very very thin. It's not hard to read.
It's you can read it in twenty minutes if you
want to pull out the part that Ran Paul is
talking about. But this is the same Ram Paul that
it does doesn't vote with Republicans, doph and government. He
just recently was trying to support his plan to enhance
(09:08):
THHC levels for consumption in drinks because he thought it
was good for Kentucky's not joking, good for Kentucky's industry,
for hemp industry. This is the same ram Paul that
is constantly looking for an opportunity to run against the
President of the United States, and so he's looking for
an opportunity anytime he can to distance himself. I would
(09:31):
be a lot better off if ram Paul just called
himself what he is. He's a libertarian, I'm perfectly okay
with that. But he can't get elected as a Libertarian
in Kentucky, so he.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Decides to run as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know, I have more respect for Thomas Massey than
I do Ram Paul because at least Thomas Matthew owns
who he is. Ram Paul is just whoever he feels
like to be.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That day, we're.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Talking to center Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. You were
a big football game over the weekend. This is much
less serious than everything else. I know you were hanging
out with Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There is topic between Alabama and Oklahoma football, very serious topic.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
So you were at that game with your with senner
Katie Britt of Alabama. We just had you may not
you probably don't know this because we just had him on.
But Paul Finbaum, who I know, you know SEC network commentator,
is thinking about running for senate in Alabama. You were
at the Alabama Oklahoma game. Congrats to the Sooners, huge
win there. What do you think of Paul Feinbaum as
(10:33):
a potential senate colleague from Alabama? And for everybody out
there listening, you've got the opportunity to go after some
Alabama fans over the big win and celebrate for all
the Oklahoma's out there listening.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, first of all, Alabama was very gracious. I have
never been to an SEC king outside of Norman, Oklahoma.
It was amazing. Hats off to Alabama, Hats off to
their fans. How my hat's off to Tuscaloosa because that
whole town turns out for football and it was an
amazing environment. Glad we pulled off the wind. But in
(11:09):
the little part I was like, Oh, I'm kind of
almost sad for this group because this whole town goes
has to go into depression now because they got beat
by the University of Oklahoma. But it was it was
you know, we had the first pick six. I was
setting in the president's box for the University of Alabama
and super nice guy and I hollered because I got
(11:29):
my OWU you know, wrestling because my son wrestles through
University of Oklahoma, and I got my OU wrestling shirt on,
and uh one the guy's walked up to me and
he says, I was going to give you I'm using
clean language here. I was going to give you crap
about hollering in the president's box. But I thought better
of it. When I saw your shirt said wrestling, we
just kind of laughed about it. But that was kind
of group it was. Now, as far as anybody, this
(11:50):
isn't particular for anybody. As far as anybody willing to
put their name on any ballot and run for any office,
I don't care if it's school board, city council, mayor
state rep, state senate, sheriff, county commissioner, or for a
federal office. I commend you for doing that, And no
one knows what type of person that canon's going to be.
(12:13):
But we need good people that have a passion for
our country, not a passion for a title to run
for to run for office, and my measuring stick is
that this is your best job you've ever had, then
I would question your ability to do what is best
(12:33):
for your decision making because if it's the most money
you've made and it's the it's the biggest title you've had,
then are you willing to fire yourself? Because we're all
somewhat self employed, but we have a whole bunch of
shareholders across our state and we're the chairman of the board.
To some degree, our board can fire us in any given time.
(12:55):
But it's pretty hard to be to be fired because
you can get your votes right half at the time.
It's either yes or no. It's just how you articulate
yourself and what type of tough votes are you willing
to take. And so for anybody, anybody to stand up
and run great, just had the right motives to do so.
And anybody's sides run, We're gonna sit down, We're going
(13:16):
to talk to them, and we may or may not
get involved in the primary. It really depends. Usually I
don't get involved in primaries unless it's somebody I know personally,
But when they win the primary, we're all in to
get them across the finish line to let them come
be part of the team.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Outstanding stuff. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, congrats to the Sooners.
I'm glad that you had the wrestling shirt on so
the president didn't come after you too hard. At the
University of Alabama, and Buck's been down there and can
speak for the hospitality of the people of Tuscaloosa. First
game Buck ever went to was Old Miss Alabama college football.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was amazing. I had all these fraternity brothers handing
me red plastic cups and saying they love out. It
was quite a scene.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It was an amazing book. It's an amazing environment. I've
never seen e they like that in my life. I
want to go back just to just enjoy the environment,
just when they're not playing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You know, the University of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Centator.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We appreciate the time. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Thanks, see you guys. Bye.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Mark Waye
Mullen came in the show just for throwing elbows, throwing
punches in every direction.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Bucks like the royal rumble? There did he did? He
put Ran Paul in the Is that the camora? It's
called an mma? Is that right? Or the h I
got to think of some mm A terminology, like what
is it? When the like a arm bar? He put
him in an arm rear naked rear naked show naked. Whoa,
it sounds it sounds a little bit tougher than I mean.
(16:01):
It's a wrestling move, I promise.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Look I throwing elbows. I do think we should talk
more because he seemed very skeptical of to be fair,
what we started the show with, which is the New
York Post Miranda Divine you have her on tomorrow, so
you will be able to walk through all of this
directly with her and Tucker Carlson's revelations on the would
(16:25):
be assassin's social media accounts. Now, I'm not an expert
in deep dive investigations, thankfully when it comes to criminal
related issues. But I read and looked at this. It
looked very real to me. It doesn't seem like something
that is faked. But I don't know, I mean, what's
your take on that. I mean, look, Tucker's team came
(16:48):
out with it, they said they vetted it. I think
that at some level, when you are seeing some of
the names that are involved in this, this is a
This is an issue a fact. This is not an
issue of opinion, and so to get an issue of
fact like this very wrong, which would then lead to
The New York Post, Daily Mail other top global news
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from the trump Ster for a little bit. Here some
of the most important soundbites from last night. Trump weighing
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in on a whole range of things. For one thing,
I want to start with this clay affordability is what
Democrats think gives them back the control of the House.
I think that is they're gonna be all in on
this price of housing, affordability, class warfare. Pay your fair share,
We'll give you free healthcare. I think that's the big thing.
Trump has to lead the Republicans. I know he's not
(19:26):
on the ballot again, he has to lead the Republicans
in the It's not even just counter messaging. Just have
a better message, right The counter messages. Yeah, they're lying
about it, and they're idiots. They don't know what they're doing.
But also, here's what is being done, and here's Trump
talking about this. Play cut one.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
What they've done to our country is a very busy
but we are correcting it. We have strong voters down,
we have a great economy. The prices are coming down.
The Democrats, like he used the word affordability, but their
affordability was terrible. The problem with the Democrats say live
they do it so well. They talk about affordability, but
(20:02):
I'm the one that's cutting the prices down. As an example,
they had the highest inflation in the history of our country.
I have it down now to a normal level. Kind
it's going down further.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think what he's saying is very true. Play but
I worry that our side assumes a little bit and
the Trump faithful will look at this and say, the
data is on our side, so we should be good. Right.
Democrats don't care. They're going to say whatever they have
to say. It doesn't matter that they had the worst
inflation in forty years under Biden. The Trump is bringing
(20:35):
under control. They're going to tell people things are expensive,
and Trump's in charge. It's his fault.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, look, I mean the data doesn't change the prices.
I went to subway last night with my fifteen year
old Subway. Oh I love subway?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah? Oh yeah, you don't like subway. I can't eat
the bread, so I can't really do well.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So here's an example of something where my eyebrows get raised.
Each had six inch subs, right, and a drink and
a chips.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thirty dollars.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Thirty dollars for two six inch subs, some chips and
a drink. Now you can say, you know, what do
you think it should cost to me? It should be
twenty dollars, right, And then they want me to tip right,
which gets into a whole nother dynamic where everything that
you buy now they give you the tip response, even
(21:29):
when you know it's a fast food restaurant.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now, can I give you? Can I give you my
my sense on this? By the way, because this is
something that I've decided. You know what, people work hard.
You know, neither you nor I are worried about our
month to month bills. They both have been at times
in our lives totally, but you and I do not
worry about month to month bills. Now, I will never
forget being in my thirties after you know, serving in
(21:53):
a couple of war zones and working for over a decade,
and I had five hundred dollars to my name, you
know the thing like the Dave rams or whatever you
got to get the thousand dollars emergency. I did not
have the thousand thousand dollars fund. See, okay, I was
in my thirties, did not have the thousand dollar emergency fund.
That as a fact. But I just decide, now, you
know what just just tipping is now just a way
(22:15):
of thanking people for just showing up and doing a job.
You know what I'm saying. It's not like, oh, you
gave me great service, I'm gonna give you thirty percent.
Clay the coffee in my neighborhood. Obviously, I have a
coffee company. I drink Crocket every day, but occasionally I
want to be social. I meet someone for a cup
of coffee or something. It's like nine dollars for a
while over there, Yeah, nine dollars and then if I
(22:36):
but again, I think of this now, if you're in
a position to fine, you know the people. I know
the people in there they show up, they're kind, they
work hard. I give them thirty percent, I give them
twenty five percent whatever. And just because I think if
you start to think of this the way we used
to think of tipping as a incentive for good service,
you're gonna go insane because everyone wants a tip for it.
I tip now when I do takeout food.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yes, I decided when I had a public job that
people could say a lot of awful things about me.
I legitimately don't think. I think we could open phone
lines right now. And to the extent that anybody who's
ever been a waiter at a restaurant I've ever been to,
I think every one of them would call it and
be say, Clay Travis a great tipper. So I decided
a long time ago when I started doing radio.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But I also can I say it's also just good.
I'm not sure if one believes in karma. I used
that not in the religious sense, but in just the
you know, the passing along. Look, you've been very fortunate
in life, You've done incredibly well. You know, it can
really make someone's day a little brighter when you throw
them a thirty percent tip on that, you know, whatever,
One hundred dollars meal two hundred whatever it is, right,
(23:40):
I mean, it's just it's it's kind of a high
five to people who are working hard and having worse.
So I'm just saying I've had because I've had to.
I've talked to my wife about this because she's like,
what do you I'm now, I just I just hit
whatever it is, the twenty I just hit it. Don't
think about it. Hit it, don't think. But I'm not
saying all of everyone. I get it. People are people
have to do what's within their budget. But I just
mean it. If you're in a position to just sort
(24:00):
of take a different philosophy on this one, I just think,
tip big and don't think twice about it. Is the
is just the only way forward.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's a good it's a good life, I think for
those of us who can afford it. Thirty dollars buck
though fifteen dollars each for a six inch sub And
this was not to the extent you guys don't go
to a subway. This was a chicken sandwich and like
a turkey and cheese sandwich, right, not even we're not
talking about the most high end to the extent that
(24:30):
there are any This is not lobster and caviare on
the buns right. Thirty dollars to me, it seems like
it should cost twenty. This, I think is the biggest
challenge that Trump has when it comes to affordability. It's
not the truth, which is he has slowed the rate
of price increases. It's that things went up so fast
(24:53):
you snapped your fingers and overnight everything started costing thirty
five percent more than it used to when Joe Biden
became president.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Joe Biden's not president.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Now things still cost thirty five percent more than you
think they should. Again, I bought that thirty dollars subway
I paid, and I thought to myself, how is a
subway meal for me and my fifteen year old thirty
dollars now a six inch not even buying a foot long?
How is it that expensive? And I think every time
(25:24):
people go to the grocery store. I think every time
people go through fast food, you look at the bill
and you just say, this is too much, and this
makes me angry. So I think the biggest challenge Trump
has is how awful Biden was, because it's it's gonna
take years for people to come to recognize what things
(25:48):
cost now, and he's trying to address it. He's doing
an event today on affordability. He's been trying to address
prices in a way that is making them better.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Positive.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Gas prices are actually lower, adjusted for inflation than they
have been in most of our lives. They're down four
year lows right now. I know they tick up sometimes
back and forth, and people respond. Different states have different prices,
different taxes on it. Those of you in California are screwed,
as we talked about with Steve Hilton last week. But
(26:20):
I think it's the number one issue that Trump faces now.
Borders better, Crime is getting so much better. And again
it can take a while for the perception to reflect
the reality, but I think most people out there feel
like crime is getting better, not that it's fixed, but
it's better, Borders fixed.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think it's the number one issue. We also border
and the economy. Those are the two and they were
the main things in the last election. And now when
we say the economy, I really do think it's cost
of living now there is a I'm not I'm not
somebody who necessarily thinks this is going to happen. I
(27:00):
think it's possible, but some of the productivity gains that
should come from from AI and from technology could have
dramatic price factor as or could dramatically factor into pricing
in ways that matter to all of us. The world
is going to change very rapidly, my friends, over the
next five to ten years, and there are so many
(27:22):
ways that we can start to think about this. But
the ability, for example, to program into your car where
to go and it just drives you. That's already here,
that's already happening, and that's going to have a dramatic effect.
Not just on the economics of who are drivers for
a living, which is a big concern, what happens to
(27:43):
the millions of people who are making a living driving
right now, but Clay also in the efficiencies of delivery
and the cost of goods to get them from one
place to another. And there's a lot of increases in
productivity that are going to happen that I think will
help on this price issue. But fundamentally we also have
to look at this as COVID essentially turned into a
(28:05):
let's just see how much we can inflate our currency game.
You cannot pay people to stay home and do nothing
and not have a massive effect on your currency. Otherwise,
they should just give everybody a million dollars tomorrow, just
the federal government. You know, we're all paying well not
all of us, but a lot of us are paying taxes.
Federal government could just send you a million dollar wire tomorrow.
Wouldn't make any difference, right, Oh no, It'll destroy our
(28:26):
currency and destroy our economy. COVID was a massive inflation
event for the country that we are still dealing with.
Some of us were warning about it then, but people
were like, oh my gosh, baucchi, it's so scary, fauci auci.
And then on top of that, we have a thirty
seven trillion dollar debt and we monetize the debt. We
carry all this stuff on the Fed balance sheet, and
(28:48):
then we pay for it ourselves by putting out the treasuries.
And the whole thing is a mess. This is debasing
the currency. We're debasing the currency. And then we turn
out and say why is the currency being debased and
why are things more at expensive? Because as a matter
of bipartisan policy, we continue to do that. Now Trump
is a lot better than the other side. He's trying
to get it under control. But that's still thirty seven
(29:09):
trillion dollars. Nothing is even beginning to deal with that issue.
So is a challenge, and again I think it's.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Something that is going to be hard to get resolved
by twenty twenty six. And the challenge is people are angry,
and when you try to respond to anger over price issues,
you risk looking like you don't understand their.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Anger, which makes them angrier. And so again I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I spent thirty dollars for two six inch subway meals
last night, and subway is supposed to be an affordable
place to go.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And again this was not like some super high end meal.
Did they have whispering angel rose at subway? Clay? Because
I hear that's your favor belief, can't believe it? Yeah,
I'm sorry, it's just your first tale.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Mcainey, Now, buck, I never know when I'm just going
to get level, going over the middle thinking we're going
to commercial break right now?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Do we have that? Can we have it? We come
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You were rainbow sand rainbow sandals wearing Yeah, rainbow sandals
wearing Subway and Chick fil A eating Clay Travis. He
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Speaker 4 (32:11):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
I'm gonna have to get ahead of this sorry metastasizing
in a negative way. I think to myself, you know
what what could go wrong if I did a Fox
News hit on Saturday morning for our friend Kaylee mccannaney's
new very successful Saturday morning Fox News show, And especially
(32:32):
the case when I'm doing it with my good chum
Buck Sexton. So I sit down and as the hit
is going on, this outrageous attack upon my character aired
for millions of people, and now it's going to air
for millions more. Listen, Buck, when you come back, I'm
gonna tell you about what I caught Clay.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Drinking, whispering angel a women's rose. I caught him drinking
at the Patriot Awards, a great alcohol at the table,
whispering angel for Clay Travis. Thank you guys. Can I
just love that Kayley Mcanitty, who was so delightful and wonderful,
throwing a little elbow in your ribs right before the
(33:16):
right before you're basically cut off the mic there, buddy,
you know you know she she hip checked you. What
is it in the hockey when you hip check somebody
and they go over the the thing we're on the side.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was like the boards you got of the boards? Yeah,
and look she just tweeted this as well, sharing the video.
I did not take at Clay Travis to be a
whispering angel man at Buck Sexton look stunned.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now, I'm not a wine guy.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I have I have for years on this program, pointed out,
and we always get angry emails whenever I say this,
all of you buying your thousand dollars wine, no idea
what you if you have a couple of glasses of
you can't tell a thousand dollars wine from a fifty
dollars wine.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
This is like Clay talking about classical music. The barbarians
are winning. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I at Julie Talbot's big induction into the Hall of Fame,
well deserved Hall of Fame induction, there was a gentleman
there who had a huge, big bottle of wine and
it was like a two thousand dollars bottle of wine
jumbo thing. I had a glass and I said, man,
it tastes just like almost as good as the box
(34:29):
wine I had back in the day. Now here's the
deal with this is at the Patriot Awards. The Patriot
Awards great event lasts like three hours, and when you
sit down at the table, all they had was water
and wine, And unlike Jesus, I can't turn water into wine.
(34:52):
So I just decided that I was going to drink
the wine, and I took the bottle of wine. Tommy
Larren sitting next to me, Kaylee mcadaney's new Me and
I just poured myself a glass.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
So you're sitting with two lovely, lovely blonde ladies and
you decide to join in on their favorite beverage and
have some chick wine right there, That's how this goes.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I thought, why would I be mean to them and
make a big fuss because there wasn't bourbon, or there
wasn't my beverage of choice, I being the generous person
that I am.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Also Emily Compagno's same.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Table, Jesse Waters, Benny Johnson and uh and and I thought, hey,
I don't want to be the stuck up guy who's
going to fight back against the rose. And you know what,
it tasted pretty good. I'm not gonna lie. But she
took a photo of me, and now she has attacked
me on air. This reminds me of the Brussels Sprouts
(35:46):
debate when remember when Jesse Kelly got furious at me
for ordering Brussels sprouts, for thinking about everyone else my harm. Well,
he was trying to get back at you, uh for
order Oh no, you were wait no, who ordered the seventy?
He ordered this mouhot. So he's the bad guy in
all these things. My only flaw is that I care
too much and that I'm just too kind when I'm
(36:07):
sharing a table with people, I'm not picky. I'll drink
your rose, I'll order Brussels sprouts. I'll even let you
order seventy five dollars shots.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I do think that there is a rule where you
don't lose your man card if you're on a vacation
to a warm place and you just want to try
the froze. You know, it looks so inviting. It's like
a slushy with the booze in it. If you're gonna
froze all day. I guess rose could be okay, I believe. Also.
(36:39):
I went with the the.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Lighter colored wine because I was afraid that I might
spill it on myself too, which, for anybody out there
who knows me, is probably a good move. Outrageous attack.
We'll have more outrageous attacks, and when we return on
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