April 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a continuation of the bombshell news about New York Attorney General Letitia James and her alleged mortgage fraud. The hosts delve deeper into the legal implications and hypocrisy of James' actions, comparing her aggressive prosecution of Donald Trump to her own fraudulent activities. This segment underscores the importance of accountability and the erosion of trust in the legal system when those in power commit similar crimes.
The discussion then shifts to a controversial legal issue involving deportation flights. Federal Judge James Boasberg finds probable cause to hold Trump in contempt over the deportation of an individual to El Salvador. The hosts analyze the complexities of this case, highlighting the procedural hurdles and the political motivations behind the judge's decision. They emphasize the broader implications for presidential powers and the ongoing battle over immigration policies.
Another significant topic is the Democrats' focus on the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged gang member with a history of domestic violence complaints. The hosts criticize the prioritization of Garcia's case over more pressing issues, such as the safety of American citizens. They argue that the Democrats' stance on immigration and deportation reflects a disconnect with the concerns of the average American.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. In second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now,
big bombshell news story. First hour was over Letitia James,
the Attorney General of New York State, who went after
Trump so aggressively on inflating his assets, and the whole
case was a sham. She really tried to bankrupt Trump
(00:20):
or at least cash starve him during the election, so
she was trying to subvert the election process as well
with that prosecution. And as Clay and I have discussed,
it was sorry if I found out a breath, I
just ran down to check on the baby for a
second and had to take a flight of stairs in
one leap here. But the Letitia James prosecution of Trump
(00:42):
on the civil case was clearly a political hit. And
now we find out that there are allegations that are
looking pretty solid that she herself is a mortgage fraudster.
And I would just point out that our team, I
asked them, and of course our team is the best
in the business. They got a whole bunch of these
right away. Clay, press release after press release, New York
(01:07):
the Feds sixty six months for mortgage fraud, thirty months
for mortgage fraud. You know, ring leader sentenced in seven
million dollar mortgage fraud conspiracy. Seven million dollar mortgage fraud.
You're talking about houses, that's not that. That's not that
big of a you know, that's not that many houses,
especially if you're talking about New York, it's maybe a
(01:28):
couple of houses. So I'm sure it was more than that.
But you get what I'm saying. So people go to
prison for this, they really do. And people like letician
I bet Letitia James presided over people going to prison
for this, So I take a guarantee she has threatened
tons of people over this exact thing that she did.
(01:49):
So I have no sympathy or sentencing mercy in my
mind at all for somebody who sends other people to
prison for conduct that they themselves do. They're there, you
have this is to me, it's like, you have to
take the hardest line on that. Uh, if you're gonna
be somebody that's you wielding that power when you yourself
(02:10):
are engaged in the because it undermines so much faith
that anybody could have in the system. I mean, yes,
the prosecutors. Could you imagine, I mean, what if a
prosecutor says, sorry, you're going to prison for twenty years
for fentanyl. But I'm gonna take some of that fentanyl
we seized and sell it myself on the street because
you can make great money on that. Shouldn't that person
go away for a long time of course? Right, so
(02:32):
we all understand the concept. Clay, Now I need you
to dive into this other legal issue here, all right,
Lawyer Clay, put the hat on.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Federal Judge James Boseburg finds probable cause to hold Trump
in contempt over deportation flights. There's so there's so much
here to dive. And first of all, the left has
decided that this guy who got sent to.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Uh El South Calor.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, this guy got sent to about Salvador. This is
like their new this is their new cause, right that
this individual and Clay, just to put this in context,
everybody agrees, I mean, the facts are he's illegal and
subject to deportation, yes, But what they're saying is this time,
the way he was deported skipped a step, so they
(03:22):
are demanding that Trump bring him back to put him
through that step before he's deported. Even though everyone agrees
he's deportable, there is no argument about whether he will
end up being deported. This judge Boseburg guy is a lunatic.
What's he's gonna hold Trump in contempt? What he thinks
is gonna lock up the sitting president. What is this
(03:42):
lunatic doing?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So this is gonna get complicated legally. Let me also
add in about this individual from Maryland who was sent
to El Salvador. This morning, I saw Bill Malugin sharing
a story that this individual in twenty twenty one had
a protective order brought against him by the mother of
(04:07):
his children. So she is now saying he's the greatest
father who's ever lived. Oh my goodness, what's going on here?
But in twenty twenty one she went to the courts
because she said that he was being abusive. So I
just bring that up for you have a sitting senator
who has basically ignored any crimes that have been committed
(04:30):
by illegals in the United States, Meaning he hasn't ever
met with Lake and Riley's family, or I think the
more in family, this mom of five who was killed
by an illegal in Maryland. In fact, he's refused to
meet with them. But he's going to get on a
plane and fly to El Salvador for an accused wife
beater gang leader who's at allegedly who is in the
(04:51):
country we know illegally, and that's who he's going to
make the guy to fight for.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Very strange.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Okay, now let's go to and I think it's going
to blow up in their face in a negative way.
But this is the new new crisis.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
We had egg prices, we had the stock market, we
had the signal group chat. You can kind of just
run through all the things that they've tried to latch
onto to argue this is some sort of existential crisis
for the country, and they've all kind of faded. Okay,
so this case in particular, Yeah, I don't even know
how you would hold the sitting president and his administration
(05:28):
in contempt. First of all, Usually when you are held
in contempt, there is and other lawyers out there can
weigh in. Maybe some of you have been held in
contempt of court before.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Usually there is either a penalty where you can be
occasionally put in jail. Right like, you are so contemptuous,
the judge decides, hey, I've got to haul you out
of the courtroom. You've got to be held in a
prison cell for some period of time, or there's some
sort of financial penalty, or there's some sort of threat
about your law license and what might impact there. I
(06:03):
don't understand how any of that can apply when the
President of the United States and his administration are arguing
that they have the legal authority to do this. So
this is a dispute over authority. Does a federal district
court judge have the authority to force the president and
(06:24):
his administration to do anything in this particular situation, there
will be an appeal. The appeal will then go to
the d C Circuit, right, a larger court here.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They will probably go Bosburg because of the makeup of
the DC Circuit.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Usually you get a small part.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of the d C Circuit and then if you wanted to,
you could appeal to the full DC Circuit. Usually they
skip that, Yes, usually they skip that there's a three
seat judge review appellate. Usually they skip the en banc
to buka is a lawyerly using that phrase, And they
go and go ahead and appeal to the Supreme Court.
(07:04):
And remember the Supreme Court has said nine to zero
basically nothing right. I mean, they're trying to avoid having
to issue a ruling on this, because ultimately this is
about presidential powers, and I just I knew it was coming.
I thought they would have a better face of the
(07:25):
Trump deportation battles than an alleged gang banger who had
a protective order taken out against him that everybody acknowledges
as illegally in the country. I don't find this guy
to be a particularly persuasive front facing example of Trump
overreach personally, but that's where we are, and the Democrats
(07:47):
are just once again lining up, regardless of the of
the procedural back and forth over this, you know, sort
of legal machinations going on here, they're lining up behind
someone for or whom it is very difficult to garner
public sympathy. And so there's a there's a political component
(08:09):
to all of this, Clay right, there's a political component.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Where I think that they still don't get how angry
everybody is about the vindictive and wide open border that
Biden had for us, and they can't make us care
about some deported MS thirteen gang banger. They just they can't.
They really are trying hard to make this about oh
my gosh, you know, we have lost we have lost
the Republic if this guy isn't returned so that he
(08:37):
can be expelled again. But that's the part of this
that it's like they want to do over. You know,
if you were at imagine like you're at a like
a venue, a stadium, and you go and you walk
through a restricted area to get to your seat, and
they come up to you and they go, no, no,
We're going to make you get back up and walk
through the non restricted area to get to your seat.
You're like, well, but I mean, this is my seat
(08:59):
and I'm here, so what a doing. That's kind of
the legal equivalent of what they're demanding here. There's not
going to be a different result, but they want to
create an additional procedural hurdle, which brings me to another
part of it. On the one hand, like I said,
we saw the border betrayal, we saw the violations, the
serial violations of our sovereignty by these democrats and by
(09:21):
this system, And what we've learned is that they just
don't want to deport anybody, and that these judges who
are weighing in on this stuff, they actually don't want
If you can't be okay with this MS thirteen guy
being deported or the trend that Aragua guy's being deported.
You don't want anybody deported, which means any evildoer from
(09:44):
anywhere in the world who happens to sneak into America
has to be our problem forever. And you know what,
a solid majority of the American people, the American people
who are capable of looking at reality, applying common sense
and seeing things what they are, which I think is
really like sixty five seventy percent of us. I really yeah,
(10:04):
I think that's what this. You know, the other thirty
percent or so, I'm sorry, they're nuts. What can you do?
But you know, the CNN has seeped too far into
their brains. But Clay, they just want these people gone.
They just want these non Americans gone. And you know,
that's it. At the end of the day. They're they're
not going to be made to weep over whether the
guy you know who was joining up with MS thirteen,
(10:28):
who wasn't supposed to be here in the first place,
got every box check before he got sent packing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The report.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Let me get this because I do think it's significant
is from Andy No and he has posted the actual
court documents according to him, and I'll share this tweet.
On May fifth, twenty twenty one, the either girlfriend or
wife that is now claiming that he's being treated unfairly
filed a domestic violence complaint against him, seeking protections from
(11:01):
Maryland because theoretically her husband or boyfriend was behaving in
a way that threatened her, and so she now says
he was a phenomenal husband. I would just submit to you,
sometimes there are disputes. Most phenomenal husbands don't have court
cases alleging domestic violence filed against them by their wives
(11:23):
or their girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So this is the guy that the one of the
sitting senators from Maryland felt compelled to get on a
flight to El Salvador to in some way try to defend.
And again, this is a guy who has been adjudicated
to be a member of a gang, to have been
here illegally, and to have had a domestic violence complaint
(11:48):
now brought against him. I'm sharing retweeting that story right now,
And you would think if we had an honest media
that they might actually asked that Maryland senator, Hey, you know,
the guy has a domestic violence case brought against him
in addition to being a gang member and also being
(12:11):
here illegally. This is who you want to make the
front facing uh uh, you know, opposition resistance to the
Trump deportation orders. I think they could have picked a
better guy personally. I think this is going to blow
up in their face.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, this is where you're talk in politics about the optics.
And yes, they mobilize far more for an illegal gang
member than the Democrats have ever mobilized for anyone murdered,
buy an illegal gang member, raped by an illegal gang member.
I mean, you know, you go down this list what
upsets Democrats more? Just ask yourself this question the Lake
(12:49):
and Riley horrific crime committed or this no frame know
that New York Times? What is the New York Times
more concerned with Lake and Riley were this guy? And
I think and you could just do it straightforward study
of it. Look at where look at where there's more
front page coverage, look at where there's more focus from Democrats.
(13:09):
You all know the answer to this. And I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
Today. You don't know what's you don't know right, but
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Speaker 3 (15:07):
Buck podcast, Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
One of the things Buck we have talked about that
I was very confident of was that we were basically
one hundred percent right that nobody who voted for Trump
regretted their vote. We're coming up on what is it,
six months I guess since the election, and CNN had
(15:28):
their data analyst Harry Inton. They dove into a recent
study asking, hey, do you regret your vote in twenty
twenty four, because it's been a talking point on CNN,
and every now and then you'll see something go viral
where someone says, oh, I talked to a Trump supporter
and he or she boy, they really regret the decision
(15:49):
they made. Actually, that's not true at all, based on
the data here with CNN breaking it down.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I hear all these stories, all these articles, all the
Trump voters, but what they did back in twenty twenty four,
I'm here to tell you, uh uh, very few of
them regret what they did back in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Where we got a.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
New poll out, the poll was conducted this month. What
percentage would change their vote to a different candidate. We're
talking just two percent, just two percent, that's not even
a wide spun on the road. And then there's this
additional one percent who say they would rather not vote.
We're talking overall under five percent might or would have
changed their vote Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Voters back in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
In February of twenty seventeen, four percent four percent of
Trump voters say they'd shift their vote, that's actually slightly
more than the three percent this time around.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So surprise you at all, back, doesn't surprise me. The
Trump people. That's you me, that's a lot of the
people out there listening right now. We voted for this.
If anything, we'd like to be able to go vote
for him again.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I think that you would have even had not that
you would have had a lot of Trump regret in
April of twenty seventeen. But I think that this administration
has as delivered sooner in a more tangible way than
even the first administration. So whatever low level of Trump
regret there was for the first time Trump voter at
(17:11):
this stage, and I think it might have been, maybe
it's indistinguishable. Maybe it's also one or two percent. This
time around, there's even less basis for it. So I'm
not surprised at all. I do not know a single
person that I credibly believe voted for Donald Trump. I
have not met or come across one who goes, now,
oh no, what is you know? I didn't I didn't
vote for that. I don't know a single one. So
(17:33):
I'm just speaking. That's anecdotal, I get it, But I mean,
not one person I mean, do you know anybody who's
been like you know, Clay, I was with you on
this whole Trump voting thing, but now no. In fact,
if anything, I know people who are like I wish
I could vote for him again.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So I think that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I think there's way more people who would love to
vote for him again than regret any decision they made.
But that's important. I do give credit to ce an
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Here we're
talking about Kilmargo Garcia's deportation because the Democrats, and I
mean from the media to the Democrat senators to everybody
in between, they are making this their big issue. It
was the stock market, it was the price of eggs,
it was what else has it been? I'm trying to
(19:18):
think what else had they freaked out? It was fascism,
which has not descended upon America. And in fact, Clay
had us in the studio in New York rather had
a note set up that they predicted. Who was it
that made the prediction six months ago that we would
be in the grip of fascism today? We got to
figure that out because you said remind me in six
(19:38):
months where we are, and we'll go back. And we
got to find out what the SoundBite was or who
was saying America will descend into fascism within six months,
because yeah, here we are six months. What a shock,
no fascism turns out? And you know we did you
discuss the Bill Maher, the Bill Maher summit with Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I would thought he played those cuts on Monday, But
you should react because you're the one who's actually I
was going on that program, and I do think it's
a sign of a positivity. It's like an out of
body experience when I'm off the show, but I'm listening
to the show and then I'm like, wait, did we
talk about this? And I'm like, well, you did, but
I was just listening, so I can't remember what was
said or what I said.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Rather, I'm like, because I didn't say anything, Yeah, I
think that. You know, Bill actually thought I was monologue on.
It was very clever and and in earnest, So that
was the sense that I had. But yeah, I no,
Trump is not Hitler, and that's insane. And I think
we've I think we have exited that Trump is Hitler
phase of the Democrat opposition. I really do not because
they're above it. It's just it's just not gonna work.
(20:39):
It's just not gonna work, right, is at some point
it turns into the same way it was, Oh Trump
grabs women all the time. No, he's got a lot
of you know, a lot of women who work for
him who'll attest to what a great boss he is,
what a great dad, what a great grandpa. You know,
he's not grabbing women all the time. He's not sexually
assaulting anybody anyway. They've tried all these different things, but
now how they've decided Abrego Garcia is the big issue
(21:05):
of the moment. And here is Democrat Senator Van Hollen.
This is nineteen who is Clay mentioned this. He is
flying down to El Salvador to check on this individual.
Play it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to aboard my
flight for San Salva. The goal of this mission is
to let the Trump administration, to let the government of
Al Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting
to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmar and
(21:38):
see what his condition is. But we are going to
keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice. The
Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero
that he was illegally taken out of the country and
put in a prison in Al Salvador. And this is
about due process, this is about rule of law.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This is not okay.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
So many different levels here.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I mean, is he is he conducting his own foreign policy?
Whatever happened to the Logan Act? You remember that one?
Remember when the Logan Act was a big thing we
all all had to freak out about. I mean, he's
is he the executive branch? What's he doing going solo
into a foreign country making these with a non US citizen?
This guy's not an American, I get it. So we
have a US senator flying to a foreign country to
(22:26):
oversee a non American, a foreigner, to try to bring
him back into the United States. On what authority would
he be brought back into the United States? Who's authority?
That would be illegal? Can the President just even unilaterally
say hey, We're going to bring this illegal into the country.
The president would be violating The President can't just say
(22:46):
bring this person into America, because I say, so, on
what authority, Clay, would he even be returned?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
One question that I would have and maybe the team
can look it up. First of all, there is no
authority to return him, so that that is the answer,
which is a good question. But has this guy traveled
to Israel and demanded the return of the American actual
citizens that have been held by Hamas? I mean, look,
(23:13):
senators do a lot of things right, so the job
has a lot of importance, primarily because it can be
used to shine a light.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
On issues of which you care.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We talked about this with We gave credit to John
Fetterman when he helped to get those guys. What was
the country Trinida and Tobago or wherever where the guy
got arrested for having just bullets basically in his carry
on and they weren't allowing him back.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
No, it was the other beach island.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm trying to remember, but yes, yeah, but in the
Caribbean KOs And we said, hey, you know what, like
as senators go fighting for the return of your citizens
in Pennsylvania, who are American citizens that otherwise might be
put in prison for ten years? I think that's what
he was facing, and he wasn't being released. That's something
(24:03):
that I would support. But we have had quite a
few Americans being held hostage by Hamas for over five
hundred days. Now, I believe is the math coming up
on two years. And I don't remember him being outspoken
about that. I don't remember him going on the road
and breaking all this down right, Like I mean, so
(24:26):
the spotlight is a big part of being senator, right,
and he's choosing his on someone who's not a citizen and.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The same way and you know this, they'll try to
mundy the waters on this, but the same way that
we discuss how the biggest decision, the biggest editorial decision
that is made by any news or commentary individual or
entity is what to cover. Same thing really applies to
politicians as in what to care about? Like what are
(24:53):
you focused on? Now? You could say, oh, you know,
walk and chow come at the same time, and as
you point it out, play senators do a lot of things.
But yeah, but when you start to line up things
that look pretty similar in terms of, uh, you know,
what kind of action a senator could take or could
not take, or what they've spent time and focus on,
(25:15):
as you pointed out, what they have seemed much more
concerned about mister Abrago Garcia, who's a non No one
thinks this guy's an American. I just want to be
very clear, there is no basis, what'so. This is a
foreign act, Okay, correct? They are more concerned about a
foreigner who has been sent back to his actual country
than duel US citizens who were captured by Hamas in
(25:38):
Israel and held in horrific conditions under threat of their
lives the whole time. I think that's an apt comparison
to show where is the focus and what actually outrages them.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yes, and I also think that this is very consequential
in that who you choose to be your front, flat
facing outlier, your anecdote to attack a policy matters.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And I'm gonna put my history nerd hat on here
for you, Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You know, in the nineteen fifties bus boycotts, Rosa Parks
was not the first woman to refuse to give up
her seat, right. There was actually a single mother who
had done the same thing, but they decided she wasn't
the right person to draw the best attention too because
she was a young single mother. This is if you
(26:31):
study the civil rights movement, the leaders of the civil
rights movement said no, no, no, no, we don't want her
to be the focal point because she's not the right person.
They waited for Rosa Parks and then they used her
as the focal point to attack the bus boycott and
Montgomery different situations entirely, but strategically, this is what this
(26:51):
guy has. He is a gang member, at least in
the past. Maybe he renounced his gang membership. I don't
know how you would do that. He is here illegally,
and in twenty twenty one his wife or girlfriend took
out a domestic violence order against him. Is this someone
(27:11):
just be honest that the average American is sitting around saying, hey,
you know, this is what I.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Want my senator.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
There's only forty seven of them in the United States
Senate for the Democrat party. Is that what you want
the limited hours of your senator's work to be focused on?
Is he representing Maryland well by making this trip. Whether
you're a Democrat, Republican or independent, I wouldn't argue that
the governor of Maryland's not down there well.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And I would say how many Democrat senators from any
state where a resident was captured by the FBI and held,
in many cases, as we know, in solitary confinement. To
keep that in mind, it's not just a solitary confinement
keeps you a loan. You have extreme restrictions on time,
(28:03):
on contact with the outside world, on what you know,
toilet tries. You're allowed to have no time in the commissary.
I mean it's a punishment. Okay. People were held j
six nonviolent prisoners were held in punishment conditions like they
were a threat to shive a fellow inmate, when they
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had never done anything in their lives and they never
actually hurt anybody. They trespassed okay, they obstructed a government
proceeding and they were held in solitary How many Democrats
went to see if they were if their due process
rights were respected? How many times did they get visits
Clay from the ACLU about whether whether everything was was
by the book? You know, I'm sorry, We've seen too
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much from these Democrats and it is it is time
to put on the brass knuckles with this stuff. I'm sorry,
I have no I don't They can try to pull
on the heartstrings they're gonna just keep pulling and get
no results. Americans with common sense see this for what
it is. Somehow Clay our laws couldn't prevent I don't know,
(29:08):
what do you think twelve million ish ten twelve million
illegals at least right ten to twelve million illegals from
coming into the country despite the fact the law says
they're not allowed to. And also now we're being told
that the law can't expel people once they've come in illegally.
How can that be something that we accept. You can
come in illegally, violator laws. Nothing we can do. Oh
(29:30):
and by the way, if we want you to leave,
there's also nothing that can be done because judges will
say you can't be can't be sent home. What Yeah,
I mean, it's madness, and people are we're just sort
of fed up with this. I know we're supposed to
get out, but the process, the process, the process. The
judges are operating in bad faith. The judges are declaring
things like, oh, we need to put a hold on
(29:52):
his deportation because he's a gang member who fears violence
from other gang members. Too freaking bad, go home.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I would also point out, and I think this is significant,
and I would expect this is going to be the
next step they are going to I think as more
as this guy's background comes out, the restraining order and
the domestic violence being brought out is going to be
tough because that doesn't Again I'm not saying that sometimes
some people don't get dragged in and haven't done anything
(30:22):
wrong at all, Right, that does happen. But combining the
guy's a gang member, the guy has a domestic violence
investigation brought against him in the state of Maryland. The
guy was here illegally. That's three strikes, maybe one or
two of those. You're like, hey, I can and so
I think what you're gonna see, Buck is there's going
to be a pivot, especially if this domestic violence complaint
(30:45):
comes out and there was any violence at all that
she alleged, because unfortunately, what often happens in domestic violence
complaints is if the couple stay together, the woman will say, oh,
none of that ever happened, and they try to just
sweep it under the rug because they want to stay together.
They got a kid like this is the reality. Anybody
who's worked in family law knows this. This is why
(31:07):
oftentimes prosecutions. They won't have the testimony from the woman herself.
It's a huge mess. Anybody who's worked in these cases
knows exactly what I'm talking about. But I think Buck,
where it's going to go from here is they're going
to say, well, it's not about him, it's about Trump
being an authoritarian and refusing to listen to the court
and follow their rowleys. That's the pivot that's coming. I
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It does Clay. But I have to be honest. My
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What are you? I try to do two cups of
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I will tell you guys something. I will confess something here.
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Welcome. In second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now,
big bombshell news story. First hour was over Letitia James,
the Attorney General of New York State, who went after
Trump so aggressively on inflating his assets, and the whole
case was a sham. She really tried to bankrupt Trump
(00:20):
or at least cash starve him during the election, so
she was trying to subvert the election process as well
with that prosecution. And as Clay and I have discussed,
it was sorry if I found out a breath, I
just ran down to check on the baby for a
second and had to take a flight of stairs in
one leap here. But the Letitia James prosecution of Trump
(00:42):
on the civil case was clearly a political hit. And
now we find out that there are allegations that are
looking pretty solid that she herself is a mortgage fraudster.
And I would just point out that our team, I
asked them, and of course our team is the best
in the business. They got a whole bunch of these
right away. Clay, press release after press release, New York
(01:07):
the Feds sixty six months for mortgage fraud, thirty months
for mortgage fraud. You know, ring leader sentenced in seven
million dollar mortgage fraud conspiracy. Seven million dollar mortgage fraud.
You're talking about houses, that's not that. That's not that
big of a you know, that's not that many houses,
especially if you're talking about New York, it's maybe a
(01:28):
couple of houses. So I'm sure it was more than that.
But you get what I'm saying. So people go to
prison for this, they really do. And people like letician
I bet Letitia James presided over people going to prison
for this, So I take a guarantee she has threatened
tons of people over this exact thing that she did.
(01:49):
So I have no sympathy or sentencing mercy in my
mind at all for somebody who sends other people to
prison for conduct that they themselves do. They're there, you
have this is to me, it's like, you have to
take the hardest line on that. Uh, if you're gonna
be somebody that's you wielding that power when you yourself
(02:10):
are engaged in the because it undermines so much faith
that anybody could have in the system. I mean, yes,
the prosecutors. Could you imagine, I mean, what if a
prosecutor says, sorry, you're going to prison for twenty years
for fentanyl. But I'm gonna take some of that fentanyl
we seized and sell it myself on the street because
you can make great money on that. Shouldn't that person
go away for a long time of course? Right, so
(02:32):
we all understand the concept. Clay, Now I need you
to dive into this other legal issue here, all right,
Lawyer Clay, put the hat on.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Federal Judge James Boseburg finds probable cause to hold Trump
in contempt over deportation flights. There's so there's so much
here to dive. And first of all, the left has
decided that this guy who got sent to.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Uh El South Calor.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, this guy got sent to about Salvador. This is
like their new this is their new cause, right that
this individual and Clay, just to put this in context,
everybody agrees, I mean, the facts are he's illegal and
subject to deportation, yes, But what they're saying is this time,
the way he was deported skipped a step, so they
(03:22):
are demanding that Trump bring him back to put him
through that step before he's deported. Even though everyone agrees
he's deportable, there is no argument about whether he will
end up being deported. This judge Boseburg guy is a lunatic.
What's he's gonna hold Trump in contempt? What he thinks
is gonna lock up the sitting president. What is this
(03:42):
lunatic doing?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So this is gonna get complicated legally. Let me also
add in about this individual from Maryland who was sent
to El Salvador. This morning, I saw Bill Malugin sharing
a story that this individual in twenty twenty one had
a protective order brought against him by the mother of
(04:07):
his children. So she is now saying he's the greatest
father who's ever lived. Oh my goodness, what's going on here?
But in twenty twenty one she went to the courts
because she said that he was being abusive. So I
just bring that up for you have a sitting senator
who has basically ignored any crimes that have been committed
(04:30):
by illegals in the United States, Meaning he hasn't ever
met with Lake and Riley's family, or I think the
more in family, this mom of five who was killed
by an illegal in Maryland. In fact, he's refused to
meet with them. But he's going to get on a
plane and fly to El Salvador for an accused wife
beater gang leader who's at allegedly who is in the
(04:51):
country we know illegally, and that's who he's going to
make the guy to fight for.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Very strange.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Okay, now let's go to and I think it's going
to blow up in their face in a negative way.
But this is the new new crisis.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
We had egg prices, we had the stock market, we
had the signal group chat. You can kind of just
run through all the things that they've tried to latch
onto to argue this is some sort of existential crisis
for the country, and they've all kind of faded. Okay,
so this case in particular, Yeah, I don't even know
how you would hold the sitting president and his administration
(05:28):
in contempt. First of all, Usually when you are held
in contempt, there is and other lawyers out there can
weigh in. Maybe some of you have been held in
contempt of court before.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Usually there is either a penalty where you can be
occasionally put in jail. Right like, you are so contemptuous,
the judge decides, hey, I've got to haul you out
of the courtroom. You've got to be held in a
prison cell for some period of time, or there's some
sort of financial penalty, or there's some sort of threat
about your law license and what might impact there. I
(06:03):
don't understand how any of that can apply when the
President of the United States and his administration are arguing
that they have the legal authority to do this. So
this is a dispute over authority. Does a federal district
court judge have the authority to force the president and
(06:24):
his administration to do anything in this particular situation, there
will be an appeal. The appeal will then go to
the d C Circuit, right, a larger court here.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They will probably go Bosburg because of the makeup of
the DC Circuit.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Usually you get a small part.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of the d C Circuit and then if you wanted to,
you could appeal to the full DC Circuit. Usually they
skip that, Yes, usually they skip that there's a three
seat judge review appellate. Usually they skip the en banc
to buka is a lawyerly using that phrase, And they
go and go ahead and appeal to the Supreme Court.
(07:04):
And remember the Supreme Court has said nine to zero
basically nothing right. I mean, they're trying to avoid having
to issue a ruling on this, because ultimately this is
about presidential powers, and I just I knew it was coming.
I thought they would have a better face of the
(07:25):
Trump deportation battles than an alleged gang banger who had
a protective order taken out against him that everybody acknowledges
as illegally in the country. I don't find this guy
to be a particularly persuasive front facing example of Trump
overreach personally, but that's where we are, and the Democrats
(07:47):
are just once again lining up, regardless of the of
the procedural back and forth over this, you know, sort
of legal machinations going on here, they're lining up behind
someone for or whom it is very difficult to garner
public sympathy. And so there's a there's a political component
(08:09):
to all of this, Clay right, there's a political component.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Where I think that they still don't get how angry
everybody is about the vindictive and wide open border that
Biden had for us, and they can't make us care
about some deported MS thirteen gang banger. They just they can't.
They really are trying hard to make this about oh
my gosh, you know, we have lost we have lost
the Republic if this guy isn't returned so that he
(08:37):
can be expelled again. But that's the part of this
that it's like they want to do over. You know,
if you were at imagine like you're at a like
a venue, a stadium, and you go and you walk
through a restricted area to get to your seat, and
they come up to you and they go, no, no,
We're going to make you get back up and walk
through the non restricted area to get to your seat.
You're like, well, but I mean, this is my seat
(08:59):
and I'm here, so what a doing. That's kind of
the legal equivalent of what they're demanding here. There's not
going to be a different result, but they want to
create an additional procedural hurdle, which brings me to another
part of it. On the one hand, like I said,
we saw the border betrayal, we saw the violations, the
serial violations of our sovereignty by these democrats and by
(09:21):
this system, And what we've learned is that they just
don't want to deport anybody, and that these judges who
are weighing in on this stuff, they actually don't want
If you can't be okay with this MS thirteen guy
being deported or the trend that Aragua guy's being deported.
You don't want anybody deported, which means any evildoer from
(09:44):
anywhere in the world who happens to sneak into America
has to be our problem forever. And you know what,
a solid majority of the American people, the American people
who are capable of looking at reality, applying common sense
and seeing things what they are, which I think is
really like sixty five seventy percent of us. I really yeah,
(10:04):
I think that's what this. You know, the other thirty
percent or so, I'm sorry, they're nuts. What can you do?
But you know, the CNN has seeped too far into
their brains. But Clay, they just want these people gone.
They just want these non Americans gone. And you know,
that's it. At the end of the day. They're they're
not going to be made to weep over whether the
guy you know who was joining up with MS thirteen,
(10:28):
who wasn't supposed to be here in the first place,
got every box check before he got sent packing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The report.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Let me get this because I do think it's significant
is from Andy No and he has posted the actual
court documents according to him, and I'll share this tweet.
On May fifth, twenty twenty one, the either girlfriend or
wife that is now claiming that he's being treated unfairly
filed a domestic violence complaint against him, seeking protections from
(11:01):
Maryland because theoretically her husband or boyfriend was behaving in
a way that threatened her, and so she now says
he was a phenomenal husband. I would just submit to you,
sometimes there are disputes. Most phenomenal husbands don't have court
cases alleging domestic violence filed against them by their wives
(11:23):
or their girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So this is the guy that the one of the
sitting senators from Maryland felt compelled to get on a
flight to El Salvador to in some way try to defend.
And again, this is a guy who has been adjudicated
to be a member of a gang, to have been
here illegally, and to have had a domestic violence complaint
(11:48):
now brought against him. I'm sharing retweeting that story right now,
And you would think if we had an honest media
that they might actually asked that Maryland senator, Hey, you know,
the guy has a domestic violence case brought against him
in addition to being a gang member and also being
(12:11):
here illegally. This is who you want to make the
front facing uh uh, you know, opposition resistance to the
Trump deportation orders. I think they could have picked a
better guy personally. I think this is going to blow
up in their face.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, this is where you're talk in politics about the optics.
And yes, they mobilize far more for an illegal gang
member than the Democrats have ever mobilized for anyone murdered,
buy an illegal gang member, raped by an illegal gang member.
I mean, you know, you go down this list what
upsets Democrats more? Just ask yourself this question the Lake
(12:49):
and Riley horrific crime committed or this no frame know
that New York Times? What is the New York Times
more concerned with Lake and Riley were this guy? And
I think and you could just do it straightforward study
of it. Look at where look at where there's more
front page coverage, look at where there's more focus from Democrats.
(13:09):
You all know the answer to this. And I'm sorry,
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One of the things Buck we have talked about that
I was very confident of was that we were basically
one hundred percent right that nobody who voted for Trump
regretted their vote. We're coming up on what is it,
six months I guess since the election, and CNN had
(15:28):
their data analyst Harry Inton. They dove into a recent
study asking, hey, do you regret your vote in twenty
twenty four, because it's been a talking point on CNN,
and every now and then you'll see something go viral
where someone says, oh, I talked to a Trump supporter
and he or she boy, they really regret the decision
(15:49):
they made. Actually, that's not true at all, based on
the data here with CNN breaking it down.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I hear all these stories, all these articles, all the
Trump voters, but what they did back in twenty twenty four,
I'm here to tell you, uh uh, very few of
them regret what they did back in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Where we got a.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
New poll out, the poll was conducted this month. What
percentage would change their vote to a different candidate. We're
talking just two percent, just two percent, that's not even
a wide spun on the road. And then there's this
additional one percent who say they would rather not vote.
We're talking overall under five percent might or would have
changed their vote Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Voters back in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
In February of twenty seventeen, four percent four percent of
Trump voters say they'd shift their vote, that's actually slightly
more than the three percent this time around.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So surprise you at all, back, doesn't surprise me. The
Trump people. That's you me, that's a lot of the
people out there listening right now. We voted for this.
If anything, we'd like to be able to go vote
for him again.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I think that you would have even had not that
you would have had a lot of Trump regret in
April of twenty seventeen. But I think that this administration
has as delivered sooner in a more tangible way than
even the first administration. So whatever low level of Trump
regret there was for the first time Trump voter at
(17:11):
this stage, and I think it might have been, maybe
it's indistinguishable. Maybe it's also one or two percent. This
time around, there's even less basis for it. So I'm
not surprised at all. I do not know a single
person that I credibly believe voted for Donald Trump. I
have not met or come across one who goes, now,
oh no, what is you know? I didn't I didn't
vote for that. I don't know a single one. So
(17:33):
I'm just speaking. That's anecdotal, I get it, But I mean,
not one person I mean, do you know anybody who's
been like you know, Clay, I was with you on
this whole Trump voting thing, but now no. In fact,
if anything, I know people who are like I wish
I could vote for him again.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So I think that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I think there's way more people who would love to
vote for him again than regret any decision they made.
But that's important. I do give credit to ce an
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Here we're
talking about Kilmargo Garcia's deportation because the Democrats, and I
mean from the media to the Democrat senators to everybody
in between, they are making this their big issue. It
was the stock market, it was the price of eggs,
it was what else has it been? I'm trying to
(19:18):
think what else had they freaked out? It was fascism,
which has not descended upon America. And in fact, Clay
had us in the studio in New York rather had
a note set up that they predicted. Who was it
that made the prediction six months ago that we would
be in the grip of fascism today? We got to
figure that out because you said remind me in six
(19:38):
months where we are, and we'll go back. And we
got to find out what the SoundBite was or who
was saying America will descend into fascism within six months,
because yeah, here we are six months. What a shock,
no fascism turns out? And you know we did you
discuss the Bill Maher, the Bill Maher summit with Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I would thought he played those cuts on Monday, But
you should react because you're the one who's actually I
was going on that program, and I do think it's
a sign of a positivity. It's like an out of
body experience when I'm off the show, but I'm listening
to the show and then I'm like, wait, did we
talk about this? And I'm like, well, you did, but
I was just listening, so I can't remember what was
said or what I said.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Rather, I'm like, because I didn't say anything, Yeah, I
think that. You know, Bill actually thought I was monologue on.
It was very clever and and in earnest, So that
was the sense that I had. But yeah, I no,
Trump is not Hitler, and that's insane. And I think
we've I think we have exited that Trump is Hitler
phase of the Democrat opposition. I really do not because
they're above it. It's just it's just not gonna work.
(20:39):
It's just not gonna work, right, is at some point
it turns into the same way it was, Oh Trump
grabs women all the time. No, he's got a lot
of you know, a lot of women who work for
him who'll attest to what a great boss he is,
what a great dad, what a great grandpa. You know,
he's not grabbing women all the time. He's not sexually
assaulting anybody anyway. They've tried all these different things, but
now how they've decided Abrego Garcia is the big issue
(21:05):
of the moment. And here is Democrat Senator Van Hollen.
This is nineteen who is Clay mentioned this. He is
flying down to El Salvador to check on this individual.
Play it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to aboard my
flight for San Salva. The goal of this mission is
to let the Trump administration, to let the government of
Al Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting
to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmar and
(21:38):
see what his condition is. But we are going to
keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice. The
Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero
that he was illegally taken out of the country and
put in a prison in Al Salvador. And this is
about due process, this is about rule of law.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This is not okay.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
So many different levels here.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I mean, is he is he conducting his own foreign policy?
Whatever happened to the Logan Act? You remember that one?
Remember when the Logan Act was a big thing we
all all had to freak out about. I mean, he's
is he the executive branch? What's he doing going solo
into a foreign country making these with a non US citizen?
This guy's not an American, I get it. So we
have a US senator flying to a foreign country to
(22:26):
oversee a non American, a foreigner, to try to bring
him back into the United States. On what authority would
he be brought back into the United States? Who's authority?
That would be illegal? Can the President just even unilaterally
say hey, We're going to bring this illegal into the country.
The president would be violating The President can't just say
(22:46):
bring this person into America, because I say, so, on
what authority, Clay, would he even be returned?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
One question that I would have and maybe the team
can look it up. First of all, there is no
authority to return him, so that that is the answer,
which is a good question. But has this guy traveled
to Israel and demanded the return of the American actual
citizens that have been held by Hamas? I mean, look,
(23:13):
senators do a lot of things right, so the job
has a lot of importance, primarily because it can be
used to shine a light.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
On issues of which you care.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We talked about this with We gave credit to John
Fetterman when he helped to get those guys. What was
the country Trinida and Tobago or wherever where the guy
got arrested for having just bullets basically in his carry
on and they weren't allowing him back.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
No, it was the other beach island.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm trying to remember, but yes, yeah, but in the
Caribbean KOs And we said, hey, you know what, like
as senators go fighting for the return of your citizens
in Pennsylvania, who are American citizens that otherwise might be
put in prison for ten years? I think that's what
he was facing, and he wasn't being released. That's something
(24:03):
that I would support. But we have had quite a
few Americans being held hostage by Hamas for over five
hundred days. Now, I believe is the math coming up
on two years. And I don't remember him being outspoken
about that. I don't remember him going on the road
and breaking all this down right, Like I mean, so
(24:26):
the spotlight is a big part of being senator, right,
and he's choosing his on someone who's not a citizen and.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The same way and you know this, they'll try to
mundy the waters on this, but the same way that
we discuss how the biggest decision, the biggest editorial decision
that is made by any news or commentary individual or
entity is what to cover. Same thing really applies to
politicians as in what to care about? Like what are
(24:53):
you focused on? Now? You could say, oh, you know,
walk and chow come at the same time, and as
you point it out, play senators do a lot of things.
But yeah, but when you start to line up things
that look pretty similar in terms of, uh, you know,
what kind of action a senator could take or could
not take, or what they've spent time and focus on,
(25:15):
as you pointed out, what they have seemed much more
concerned about mister Abrago Garcia, who's a non No one
thinks this guy's an American. I just want to be
very clear, there is no basis, what'so. This is a
foreign act, Okay, correct? They are more concerned about a
foreigner who has been sent back to his actual country
than duel US citizens who were captured by Hamas in
(25:38):
Israel and held in horrific conditions under threat of their
lives the whole time. I think that's an apt comparison
to show where is the focus and what actually outrages them.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yes, and I also think that this is very consequential
in that who you choose to be your front, flat
facing outlier, your anecdote to attack a policy matters.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And I'm gonna put my history nerd hat on here
for you, Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You know, in the nineteen fifties bus boycotts, Rosa Parks
was not the first woman to refuse to give up
her seat, right. There was actually a single mother who
had done the same thing, but they decided she wasn't
the right person to draw the best attention too because
she was a young single mother. This is if you
(26:31):
study the civil rights movement, the leaders of the civil
rights movement said no, no, no, no, we don't want her
to be the focal point because she's not the right person.
They waited for Rosa Parks and then they used her
as the focal point to attack the bus boycott and
Montgomery different situations entirely, but strategically, this is what this
(26:51):
guy has. He is a gang member, at least in
the past. Maybe he renounced his gang membership. I don't
know how you would do that. He is here illegally,
and in twenty twenty one his wife or girlfriend took
out a domestic violence order against him. Is this someone
(27:11):
just be honest that the average American is sitting around saying, hey,
you know, this is what I.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Want my senator.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
There's only forty seven of them in the United States
Senate for the Democrat party. Is that what you want
the limited hours of your senator's work to be focused on?
Is he representing Maryland well by making this trip. Whether
you're a Democrat, Republican or independent, I wouldn't argue that
the governor of Maryland's not down there well.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And I would say how many Democrat senators from any
state where a resident was captured by the FBI and held,
in many cases, as we know, in solitary confinement. To
keep that in mind, it's not just a solitary confinement
keeps you a loan. You have extreme restrictions on time,
(28:03):
on contact with the outside world, on what you know,
toilet tries. You're allowed to have no time in the commissary.
I mean it's a punishment. Okay. People were held j
six nonviolent prisoners were held in punishment conditions like they
were a threat to shive a fellow inmate, when they
(28:24):
had never done anything in their lives and they never
actually hurt anybody. They trespassed okay, they obstructed a government
proceeding and they were held in solitary How many Democrats
went to see if they were if their due process
rights were respected? How many times did they get visits
Clay from the ACLU about whether whether everything was was
by the book? You know, I'm sorry, We've seen too
(28:47):
much from these Democrats and it is it is time
to put on the brass knuckles with this stuff. I'm sorry,
I have no I don't They can try to pull
on the heartstrings they're gonna just keep pulling and get
no results. Americans with common sense see this for what
it is. Somehow Clay our laws couldn't prevent I don't know,
(29:08):
what do you think twelve million ish ten twelve million
illegals at least right ten to twelve million illegals from
coming into the country despite the fact the law says
they're not allowed to. And also now we're being told
that the law can't expel people once they've come in illegally.
How can that be something that we accept. You can
come in illegally, violator laws. Nothing we can do. Oh
(29:30):
and by the way, if we want you to leave,
there's also nothing that can be done because judges will
say you can't be can't be sent home. What Yeah,
I mean, it's madness, and people are we're just sort
of fed up with this. I know we're supposed to
get out, but the process, the process, the process. The
judges are operating in bad faith. The judges are declaring
things like, oh, we need to put a hold on
(29:52):
his deportation because he's a gang member who fears violence
from other gang members. Too freaking bad, go home.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I would also point out, and I think this is significant,
and I would expect this is going to be the
next step they are going to I think as more
as this guy's background comes out, the restraining order and
the domestic violence being brought out is going to be
tough because that doesn't Again I'm not saying that sometimes
some people don't get dragged in and haven't done anything
(30:22):
wrong at all, Right, that does happen. But combining the
guy's a gang member, the guy has a domestic violence
investigation brought against him in the state of Maryland. The
guy was here illegally. That's three strikes, maybe one or
two of those. You're like, hey, I can and so
I think what you're gonna see, Buck is there's going
to be a pivot, especially if this domestic violence complaint
(30:45):
comes out and there was any violence at all that
she alleged, because unfortunately, what often happens in domestic violence
complaints is if the couple stay together, the woman will say, oh,
none of that ever happened, and they try to just
sweep it under the rug because they want to stay together.
They got a kid like this is the reality. Anybody
who's worked in family law knows this. This is why
(31:07):
oftentimes prosecutions. They won't have the testimony from the woman herself.
It's a huge mess. Anybody who's worked in these cases
knows exactly what I'm talking about. But I think Buck,
where it's going to go from here is they're going
to say, well, it's not about him, it's about Trump
being an authoritarian and refusing to listen to the court
and follow their rowleys. That's the pivot that's coming. I
(31:29):
think that's where we're headed. But I want to tell you, hey, Buck,
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It does Clay. But I have to be honest. My
wife is super wife and she has she's I get
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What are you? I try to do two cups of
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