November 18, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers breaking news and in-depth analysis on major political and cultural stories. Buck Sexton leads the hour with an exclusive interview featuring Miranda Devine of the New York Post, who reveals shocking details about Thomas Crooks, the would-be assassin of President Donald Trump. Devine explains how Crooks’ online footprint—spanning platforms like YouTube, Gab, and DeviantArt—shows a disturbing evolution from pro-Trump rhetoric to violent anti-Trump threats, including assassination fantasies. She highlights Crooks’ use of aliases, his ties to extremist forums, and even gender identity confusion, noting his adoption of they/them pronouns and links to the “furry” subculture. Devine questions why the FBI and Secret Service failed to act despite clear warning signs, raising concerns about possible agency negligence or concealment.
The conversation pivots to Hunter Biden, after audio surfaces of him launching personal attacks on Devine, calling her unethical and insulting her appearance. Buck and Miranda dissect Biden’s behavior, emphasizing his inability to refute documented evidence of corruption involving foreign business deals and influence-peddling during Joe Biden’s vice presidency. The segment underscores the Biden family scandal, Hunter’s legal immunity, and the media’s complicity in shielding Democrats from accountability.
Buck then shifts focus to Donald Trump’s fiery Oval Office exchange with ABC News reporter Mary Bruce, who pressed him on Saudi business ties and the upcoming Epstein Files Transparency Act vote. Trump blasts ABC as “fake news,” defends his record, and reiterates that he expelled Jeffrey Epstein from his club years ago—contrasting that with Epstein’s deep ties to Bill Clinton and other Democratic elites. Trump frames the Epstein narrative as a “Democrat hoax” aimed at distracting from his administration’s economic successes, including historic reductions in inflation and energy costs. Buck reinforces this point with commentary from Stephen Miller, who credits Trump for restoring affordability and combating inflation.
The hour closes with cultural commentary and listener talkbacks on tipping etiquette and dating advice, adding a relatable and lighthearted touch to the intense political discussion. Buck emphasizes generosity and confidence as keys to navigating everyday life.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now.
And one of the great things about this show is
because we are in the middle of the day. Uh,
we have way, we have Miranda. Oh great, okay, great,
because in the middle of day we get breaking news.
But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here
(00:21):
with a phone call and she's making some time for us.
She's very busy right now because she is right in
the midst of these revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would
be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda, your piece up on
the New York Post. I think we've got a crosspost
at clayanbuck dot com. It is very important. Let's start
(00:45):
with this. How sure are we, how solid are we
that this stuff about about Crooks right now is true?
That has been found online the YouTube accounts like like
go through a little bit of the verification of that
with us. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
This is from a sauce who is obviously very tech
savvy and has basically used open source searching of where
archives using some tools that private investigators have, but not
using law enforcement tools.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And you know, a day after.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Butler YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks's account. But
my source managed to find old messages from there. Now,
this was available to the FBI because we know that
the Deputy Director, Paul at back in July of last year,
a week two weeks after the Butler event, he testified
(01:44):
to Congress about this account with more than seven hundred
comments which we have which our source gave us, and
so you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found seventeen
online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to using
his own name, using a phone number of Thomas Crooks
(02:06):
that was publicly available, and his email addresses that connected
to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it and
is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks where
he wasn't one hundred percent sure, he said so, but
he used these They're not really aliases, but they're sort
(02:27):
of handles Cooks used on other social media like gab
and x.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He used epic microwave. That's also what he used on
a site called deviant Art.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The only time he used an actual alias to sign
up for an account was with PayPal, and he used
the name Rod Swanson, which is the name of an
FBI agent who a former FBI agent from Vegas who
was partially involved in the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious
(03:00):
mass shooting.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I've talked to.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Him, knows nothing about it, doesn't have a PayPal account,
never never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't even know
how to set up a PayPal account. But what he
did tell me, because he's a very senior former FBI guy,
very seasoned, he said, it is inconceivable that a kid
with this kind of online communications and sort of violent
(03:26):
rhetoric would not have been visited or be on.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
The radar of the FBR.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So, you know, other FBI people tell me the same thing.
Some one of them suggested that because August twenty twenty
was when Thomas was at his peak violent rhetoric, talking
about assassinating political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using
AR fifteenths which was similar to the gun that he used,
(03:55):
and just after that he goes dark. He just disappeared
off all of these platforms.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You just he's a ghost.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But until August of twenty twenty, he's very prolific, and
you can see the trajectory of how he goes from
you know, age sort of fifteen sixteen, very pro Trump,
you know, like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats,
anti the Squad, anti Ilhanoma, and then something happens.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
To him in January twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
In the space of two months, he's gone from rapidly
pro Trump, he goes to rapidly anti Trump. He's got
flipped one hundred and ninety degrees, and then his rhetoric
gets more and more violent and disturbing, and you know, people,
it was so bad that there were people online interacting
him with him who were tagging the FBI and saying
(04:50):
to him, Hey, you know, you're pretty dumb, like the
way you're talking openly. Now it's good because now law
enforcement knows where to find you. So it's hard to
believe the FBI didn't have him in their sights. But
Christopher Ray, a week after Butler testified to Congress that
they had done a search of their database and found
(05:12):
nothing before Butler. So that doesn't necessarily mean that they
didn't have any interaction. And I think Christopher Ray knew
exactly what he was doing when he phrased it in
that way, because I know that during my Biden research
that there was interactions with whistleblowers about the Biden family
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influence peddling corruption and that was not visible to any
average FBI agent looking in the database. It was hidden
away deliberately by certain road FBI agents in a place
where it could only be found by people who needed
to know.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want. I think
it's so important everyone knows these details because because it's
hard to believe. That's one way of putting it, that
all this was out there and that as you've as
you said, from even FBI sources of yours, that this
would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an
(06:13):
even like lesser but also equally hard to believe component
of this to me seems to be that the FBI
didn't find this stuff, Like why, how is it possible
that your person, your source was able to find this
online but the FBI wasn't able to write there's the
possibility of being on the radar before the shooting and
(06:35):
the and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that,
But how is it that we didn't know about this before?
Is the FBI? Are we to be told that they're
that incompetent? That is just it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI
isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean,
you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they
hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Day, the Deputy
under Ray, did testify that they had this account with
more than seven hundred for their YouTube account. So I
assume they have all of this and much more. The
(07:10):
question is why haven't they been more force coming, particularly
since Trump took over by when I contacted the FBI
about this story and asked them a number of questions,
including I think the most important question, did you have
any interactions with Thomas Crooks before Butler? Did anyone tip
(07:32):
you off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him?
Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told
they should have knocked on his door.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Did you do that?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What's the answer I get from Cash Betel's FBI, No comment,
that's it. So I don't understand it. And you know,
someone else said to me, well, maybe it was a
secret service because in August twenty twenty, Donald Trump was president,
so they have would be the primary agent and see
that we'd go and knock on a door if there's
a threat to one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of their protectives.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But the Secret Service gave me a better response when
I asked them, and they said basically that this would
be this would be something the FBI would do that
even if they said they have no record of crooks,
they said now, but in any case, this is an
FBI responsibility. So I don't even think it's as simple
(08:26):
as for between the cracks between two agencies.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The FBI knows a lot, they have to know a lot.
Just how much I don't know?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And can I jump in with there's something that we
didn't know or at least it wasn't imported until this
week that this guy used they them pronouns and was
interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness.
How could that not have been brought forward if the
FBI was operating in good faith and had access to
(08:55):
this information.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, I mean it's very slim.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I have to emphasize that. But like Tyler Robinson, the
alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there is a connection to
this sexual fetish called furries, which is people dressing up
as animals or enjoying cartoon animal humanized figures, having sex
or being in sexual positions.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So Thomas Crook.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He's not shared any furry staff well talked about it,
but he was frequenting and had two accounts on a
site called deviant Art, which is the major sort of
furry hub online furry hub, and it's sort of for
the furry community, and he doesn't share anything like that.
(09:44):
He does share this sort of bizarre image of a
very muscle bound sort of Sylvester Stallone sort of masculine
body with a female head on top of it, with
a puny little guy next to it that looks like him,
that's sort of in a prostate.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Then they're not dressed, they're addressed in their underwear, So
that's one.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And then other than that, sort of cartoon characters on
this platform that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Are violent, shooting each other in the head and so on.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they
them pronoun stuff and he.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Uses they them pronouns on deviant Art. That's the first
time we've seen that, so clearly some sort of gender
confusion or exploring gender identity again.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Disturbing needs to be explored because we've had so many
gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his
living lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't
think it's enough for Cash Petel say, oh, he was
alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's
a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson,
(10:50):
It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson,
who also did an episode on this last week with
the same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose
job is over sight of the FBI, and he has
been asking since day one for a whole lot of information,
including you know, camera forensics, autopsy, other documents and getting stonewalled,
(11:16):
and even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson
was very angry about the fact that in July, on
the one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena
Cash Pattel for the documents that he's been asking for.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So, you know, we will, we will have our team.
Let's let's get Ron john he may be listening right now.
Let's get Senator Johnson on here, because I want to
talk to him about this as well, because we need
to continue to follow this and push for this. Miranda.
This is all so important and everyone should go read
Miranda's piece at The New York Post. Also her podcast
podforst One. Yep, go go check out her podcast before
(11:56):
Before We Let You Go. Though I know you've got
a whole bunch of hits today, tell me, I want
to let you react to this. Honestly, you know, Clay
and I really appreciate your work and we appreciate you
as a person. Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were
always while you reported on him. You would always say, look,
he's kind of a sad guy, and like, you know,
he might actually and I you always had some when
(12:17):
you would talk to us about this on the air,
some degree of sympathy for the guy, because I think
you're just a nice person. I had to play this
because I want you to react. Hunter Biden here said
mean things about you and Clay and I are ready
to fight him. Play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
There's no ethics in what, you know, like someone as
horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of
her in terms of ethics, it does. I mean she
is you know, a and then and and that goes
for you know, you know, I mean daily Mail and
you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're
(12:51):
hores for money, and you know she does it because
she makes money. And you know, when when she goes
to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just for
you know. I don't know anybody that's going to be
more than her. When she's gone, I think, well.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We appreciate you. Everything you said is a lie and
he's a disgusting piece of trash. I just do you
feel like, oh man, you were too nice to this guy.
He's a horrible human being. He truly is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I still have the same impression of him that I've
always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's
lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he
never refutes a word I said, and what I've written
and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the
pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll that he doesn't know
anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe
(13:43):
it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes
any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that
he traded on his father's name, the fact that his
father was involved in getting him clients and then he
put him on the speakerphone, all that corruption.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
During Joe Biden's vice presidency to Enrich's family.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He doesn't, he doesn't go into any of that and
try and to send himself. He just attacks my appearance
and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know,
it's ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he
should be in prison, as we all know, he should
be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because
of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda,
I think there were a lot of people on the
right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict,
and they try to give some sympathy. I think what
you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. Uh. And
(14:36):
and I and I thought that all along, So, uh,
you know, I just think he showed everybody what a
piece of garbage he is. And I'm just glad that
you did the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him
that you did, and that people knew the truth about
the Bidens in general and the Biden crime family. So
and uh, you know, Claire and I are happy to
(14:57):
have a word with him outside the bar if we
ever see him, you know, after he says these mean things. Yes, anyway, Miranda,
you're the best, You're the best. Yeah, and uh all right,
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
I gotta say, Hunter Biden get really mouthy about our
friend Randon Divine. Could I could we do like a
charity boxing match. I'll get in there with Hunter, you
know what I mean, charity boxing that would be that
would be valid, that would be allowed, all parties could
consent to. And uh, you know, what a what a jerk?
(16:48):
What a jerk that guy is? Well we knew that
all along, but uh, you know, she never went personal
really about him. Yes, she reported on his personal level,
that's all fair game, bend of who he is and
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(17:10):
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(17:35):
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Thomas Crooks's online footprints, as we know there would be
assassin of our own President Donald Trump. Trump was just
in the Oval office and he had quite an exchange
(19:22):
with an ABC reporter. ABC News is you know, propaganda
very much a propaganda network, not a surprise Democrat propaganda
pretending to be objective of journalism, as if anybody could
believe that with a straight face these days. But Trump
really wasn't having it today because they're desperate to just
try to throw some stink in his direction as a
(19:45):
result of this Epstein release that's supposed to be voted
on here in a little bit, in the next hour.
There's supposed to be a vote. Here's how Trump handled
this exchange. I want you to hear a whole thing
with a reporter from ABC News. Listen to it. Is
it appropriate, mister President, for your family to be doing.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Business in Saudi Arabia while you're president?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is that a conflict of interest?
Speaker 8 (20:07):
And your Royal highness? The US Intelligence concluded that you
orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. Not eleven families
are furious that you are here in the overalls.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Who watched Americans?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Who you were?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
And the same gus who you wire? I'm an ABC usir.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
With who ac Sir fakeness, ABC fakeness, one of the worst,
is one of the worst in the business.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
But I'll ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I have nothing to do with a family business.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
I have left and when I've devoted one hundred percent
of my energy, what my family does is fine. They
do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia.
Actually they could. I'm sure they could do a lot,
and anything they've done has been very good. That's what
we've done. We've built a tremendous business. For a long time.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I've been very successful.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
I decided to leave that success fee behind and make
America very successful. And I've made America more successful by
far than it ever was, and that it ever could
have been. No matter who was present, there would be
nobody bringing in twenty one trillion dollars. That I can
tell you right now, as far as this gentleman is concerned,
he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was
(21:09):
extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman
that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't
like him, things happened, but he knew nothing about it.
And we can leave it at that you don't have
to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh, guys, can you get there's more? There's more? Can
we continue find find the He keeps going because I
was I was listening in one of our breaks, one
of our station breaks, as I was prepping for the
next segment. Puller, he really he really lays into her
after that, that's just the beginning of the exchange. We'll
bring you more of it here. Well, you'll notice, did
(21:43):
you ever hear any Biden met with the Saudis? I mean,
would you ever expect something like this, except when you
have a Trump administration. They've just they've got to go
on offense. They know this now they've got to do
anything they can to get people to We're really to
get Trump to spend time dealing with their attacks instead
(22:05):
of continuing to have the focus on this country and
what's going on with the Trump administration agenda, because overall,
I think it's very popular, it's very much working. In fact,
Stephen Miller, one of our favorites, the great. Some people
are saying the great Steven Miller from this White House.
(22:26):
He was saying, this is cut seventeen, that it is
Trump who is doing the most. It is Trump who
who was moving mountain, so to speak. On affordability issues,
Play seventeen.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
The Democrat media lies for a living and they're professional liars.
So it's a good opportunity to review the facts under
President Trump. In the last few months, we've seen the
first significant reductions in prices and the cost of living
since the last time President Trump was in offense for
four years, we saw wreckers setting double digit inflation, inflation
(23:00):
upwards of twenty percent, and now under President Trump, inflation
is back down to desired benchmark levels a little bit
over two percent. But to be clear, President Trump is
doing more every single day to keep bringing costs down.
President Trump is fighting to reduce the cost of energy
to historic lows.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, this is what he's really focused on. And
you'll notice that that the media attacks are always on
on other things. First of all, what is let's just
take this for a second. What is Trump supposed to
do about the Saudi crown prince and the allegation that
he had something to do with that guy Jamal Kashogi's
(23:43):
you know, assassination murder. What is Trump supposed to do
about this? I'm just wondering what is he supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What does ABC News want? You'll notice it's clearly intended
to be an assault, and an attack of whatever proportions
they can get out, they can get out of this.
Do we have more? When Trump really goes after oh yeah, yeah, okay,
(24:13):
yeah yeah. This is where Trump has really had it
with Mary Bruce of ABC News. Trump has really had it,
and here he decides to let her know what he
thinks of for play thirty two. Fine week for Congress
to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Why not just do it?
Speaker 7 (24:30):
No, No, it's not a question that I mind. It's
your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's
the way you ask these questions. You start off with
a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate
and just a terrible question. And you could even ask
that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyches
(24:50):
you over at ABC. You're gonna psych it. You're a
terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the
Epstein file says.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
I have nothing to do with Jeffrey.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I threw him out of my club many years ago
because I thought he was a sick perverb.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
But I guess I would turn out to be right.
But you know who does have Bill c Linton.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night,
every single weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
They lived together. They went to his island many times.
I never did Andrew Weissman here. All these guys were
friends of his. You don't even talk about those people.
You just keep going on the Epstein finals. And what
the Epstein is is.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
A Democrat hoax to try and get me not to
be able to talk about the twenty one trillion dollars
that I talked about today.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
It's a hoax.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
See again, he's saying it's a hoax to try to
wrap Trump into it. He's not saying Epstein's a hoax, obviously,
He's pointing out all the people involved with EPSTEIN as
a matter of record out there in the public, the
facts of the matter. But yeah, he's really he has
really had enough. You know, I've also believe I think
that Trump does feel like now I understand people could say, oh,
(25:59):
what's the job of it journalists to ask the tough
questions of a foreign head of states in the Oval Office.
Find me a clip where anyone from ABC News asked
anything like that during the Biden years. Find me that clip.
The point is, it's two sets of rules. They're journalists
when it excuses them from being ferociously aggressive, and you
(26:22):
know they're stenographers stenographers for power when there's a Democrat administration.
We're all very aware of how this slug goes. Biden
didn't even talk to the media. Biden didn't even talk
to the media and honestly had the dumbest White House
Press secretary I think in the history of the job.
And was I really believe also so incompetent and just
(26:43):
not up to the job that people felt kind of
bad and didn't really Some people just knew that she's
a Democrat that you can't attack her, but other people
felt bad and she's just not up for this, not
up to it, which has become very apparent in Koreine
Jean Pierre's book Tour After the Fact about everything that's
gone on. So just has no idea about anything and
(27:06):
answers almost every question with as a as a black
woman who's a member of the LGBTQ community, comma every question,
every question, She'll even answer a question about her using
that in every question by starting that way. So, yeah,
we all know that the media was in a totally
different space, very different place of operation when it came
(27:30):
to the Biden regime. But anyway, is Trump is. He's
doing a lot of things that I believe are really
helpful to the American people and really matter. And the
other side of things, the other team is doing everything
they can to get the focus off of the issues
(27:53):
that you really care about, off of what is going
to move the needles, so to speak, and get people
thinking much more about whatever salacious gossip they can pretend
is actual reporting. And that's that's something that Trump is
just he's tired of it. He's tired of it, and
(28:14):
he should be. So I commend him for taking the
approach on this that you know, enough, enough is enough.
And here is for example, even over at the Breakfast Club,
this is twenty eight, mister the God Charlemagne saying that
somehow the Bill Clinton relationship with Epstein is so much
(28:37):
less It's so much more robust and documented than anything
with Donald Trump, but so much less interest in this
play twenty eight.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
It's just funny how to new works that Bill Clinton,
you know, wrote a letter to you know, Jeffrey Epstein
as well for his birthday, but nobody's talking about that.
And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton addressed
in high heels, you know, in his New York mansion,
but nobody's talking about that. My thing is this, I
don't care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go burn
it on now.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
That's just as.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Simple as that mutually showed destruction. Whoevers on that list
need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. I
don't care what party they.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Are, no period.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
And you know, to that point, though, you know, Clinton
is not the president right now.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
You know if he was, you think that anyways, Yeah,
I think he would still be under scrutiny if he
was the president right now.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
No, he was, Liberal media wouldn't push the issue, that
is correct, I like the last thing he threw in there,
mister the god coming to the uh, to the side
of reality there. But of course if Clinton were president now,
they were just they would do exactly what they're doing,
which is pretend that what is actually the public record
on this issue with something else. They would they would
(29:46):
lie about it, and they would make it seem like
Trump even said this today in the Oval office. He said,
I'm the one who kicked him out of the club
and thought he was a creep. Clinton was honest. How
many guys? How many times was Clinton on the plane?
Can you I forget the number? It was a lot,
It's a lot. Spent a lot of time with this
guy and the people. Trump never went to the island.
(30:07):
A lot of people went to this island. That's kind
of a big move.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How many people? Uh, well, I mean, I know you're
talking about the the kind of global elites here, but
how many people would you be like, Yeah, you know,
I don't know you that well, but I'm gonna get
on your plane, your private plane, and fly to your
private island to hang out, right. That's uh wouldn't you
(30:33):
have to know someone really well before you'd want to
do that. Wouldn't you want to really know who you're
dealing with. Look, I'm ie, I get in I get
invites to, uh, you know, the people sometimes even kind
of like prominent famous people. I get invited to, you know,
some things here, not a lot because I'm a pretty
private person outside of my work. But you know, I'm
(30:54):
just telling you, if someone I didn't know said, hey,
will you hop on my private plane and go to
my private island for the week because I just want
to talk. I would say, how about a coffee? How
about we go for a stroll first. There's different layers,
different connectivity that has been established in this public record,
(31:15):
and they keep desperately trying to dirty Trump up with this,
and it just doesn't stick because it's not there. There's
no they're there, and they on the other side, they
pretend to be the great defenders of these women who
are victimized by Epstein that left the Democrats. They pretend
that that's what they care about, but no, they only
care about it in so far as they can use
(31:36):
it as a weapon against Trump in some way. And
they're far less interested in pushing on what is much
more apparent, which is the deep and enduring relationships that
some of the biggest donors to the Democrat Party, so
the most important people, the former president of the Democrat Party,
that they don't really seem that interested. I know that
(31:59):
all of a sudden, they get they get confused, Oh yeah, confused. Sure, Look,
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If you will, we will do some talkbacks here. We
have someone from Minneapolis. Didn't say his name, but here's
what he says about my conversation with Clay yesterday about
tipping people everywhere for everything. Play a A.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Hey, guys, I realize it's not the point of your
whole story, but the tipping part. If I'm sitting down
and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm
standing up ordering my own food and clearing my own dishes,
I'm not tipping, period. In the story. That's how the
world should work.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I don't disagree with your with your rule there at all.
And I wanted to be clear, Yester. I wasn't saying
to people, you know, everyone has to make their own
make their own budgets and take care of their you know,
themselves and their families first and foremost, obviously being fair
to people who are servers and stuff in the process.
But I was just saying, I have given up on
(34:58):
enforcing that rule of my own life because I just
figure anybody and I'm coming across in the service industry,
you know, it's like I'm spreading spreading some loot around.
That's my idea. That's how I do things. I'm very
blessed fortunate in life. And uh, you know, just trying
just trying to be generous in my own community and
with little ways I can, and to those who are
(35:18):
in a position where they're not worried about week to week,
month to month bills. You know, just tip thirty percent,
you know, give give people especially we're working really hard.
I mean, I think it's it's so important to show
appreciation for people how you can when you can with
a little money. All right, here we go. Bob from
(35:39):
Houston wants to weigh in on our dating conversation. B
B hit it way buck. I learned early on that
girls are just like guys.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
We all just want a nice, respectful friendship that may
blossom into a relationship. And well I learned that then
talking to any group of girls in high school was
no problem. Now it wasn't you know, trying to pick
up a date or anything like that, but you know,
just making daily conversation to me, that was just really great.
So and lo and behold, it was actually through a
friend that I met my wife, and we've known each
other for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Married thirteen Bob, I'm glad it all worked. Jaffrey. I'm
a big believer. I always say this to people. Just
talk to people. You'd be amazed at how much you
learn and how much opens up to you. You're just
willing to talk to folks. Talk to people as you can,
as you come across them. I'll say also that the
idea of a pickup line, here's my thing. I don't
think the pickup line really matters. What helps people is
(36:29):
that the pickup line gives guys. Guys the ones who
do pick up lines right, It gives them the confidence
to approach a woman that they're then speaking to, and
because they think, oh, I have a pickup line, they
come across as confident and ready to engage. The line
doesn't really matter. But I wouldn't go with may I
meet you for most of you out there, unless you're
(36:50):
going to do it in an ironic and funny way,
and maybe that'll work great. In fact, I bet there
are people who are gonna get married because of Bi
Blackman's may I meet you? Because he said it and
then the lady laughed response.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Kay
All right. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now.
And one of the great things about this show is
because we are in the middle of the day. Uh,
we have way, we have Miranda. Oh great, okay, great,
because in the middle of day we get breaking news.
But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here
(00:21):
with a phone call and she's making some time for us.
She's very busy right now because she is right in
the midst of these revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would
be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda, your piece up on
the New York Post. I think we've got a crosspost
at clayanbuck dot com. It is very important. Let's start
(00:45):
with this. How sure are we, how solid are we
that this stuff about about Crooks right now is true?
That has been found online the YouTube accounts like like
go through a little bit of the verification of that
with us. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
This is from a sauce who is obviously very tech
savvy and has basically used open source searching of where
archives using some tools that private investigators have, but not
using law enforcement tools.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And you know, a day after.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Butler YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks's account. But
my source managed to find old messages from there. Now,
this was available to the FBI because we know that
the Deputy Director, Paul at back in July of last year,
a week two weeks after the Butler event, he testified
(01:44):
to Congress about this account with more than seven hundred
comments which we have which our source gave us, and
so you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found seventeen
online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to using
his own name, using a phone number of Thomas Crooks
(02:06):
that was publicly available, and his email addresses that connected
to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it and
is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks where
he wasn't one hundred percent sure, he said so, but
he used these They're not really aliases, but they're sort
(02:27):
of handles Cooks used on other social media like gab
and x.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He used epic microwave. That's also what he used on
a site called deviant Art.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The only time he used an actual alias to sign
up for an account was with PayPal, and he used
the name Rod Swanson, which is the name of an
FBI agent who a former FBI agent from Vegas who
was partially involved in the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious
(03:00):
mass shooting.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I've talked to.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Him, knows nothing about it, doesn't have a PayPal account,
never never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't even know
how to set up a PayPal account. But what he
did tell me, because he's a very senior former FBI guy,
very seasoned, he said, it is inconceivable that a kid
with this kind of online communications and sort of violent
(03:26):
rhetoric would not have been visited or be on.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
The radar of the FBR.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So, you know, other FBI people tell me the same thing.
Some one of them suggested that because August twenty twenty
was when Thomas was at his peak violent rhetoric, talking
about assassinating political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using
AR fifteenths which was similar to the gun that he used,
(03:55):
and just after that he goes dark. He just disappeared
off all of these platforms.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You just he's a ghost.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But until August of twenty twenty, he's very prolific, and
you can see the trajectory of how he goes from
you know, age sort of fifteen sixteen, very pro Trump,
you know, like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats,
anti the Squad, anti Ilhanoma, and then something happens.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
To him in January twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
In the space of two months, he's gone from rapidly
pro Trump, he goes to rapidly anti Trump. He's got
flipped one hundred and ninety degrees, and then his rhetoric
gets more and more violent and disturbing, and you know, people,
it was so bad that there were people online interacting
him with him who were tagging the FBI and saying
(04:50):
to him, Hey, you know, you're pretty dumb, like the
way you're talking openly. Now it's good because now law
enforcement knows where to find you. So it's hard to
believe the FBI didn't have him in their sights. But
Christopher Ray, a week after Butler testified to Congress that
they had done a search of their database and found
(05:12):
nothing before Butler. So that doesn't necessarily mean that they
didn't have any interaction. And I think Christopher Ray knew
exactly what he was doing when he phrased it in
that way, because I know that during my Biden research
that there was interactions with whistleblowers about the Biden family
(05:33):
influence peddling corruption and that was not visible to any
average FBI agent looking in the database. It was hidden
away deliberately by certain road FBI agents in a place
where it could only be found by people who needed
to know.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
So there's so much here, Miranda, I want. I think
it's so important everyone knows these details because because it's
hard to believe. That's one way of putting it, that
all this was out there and that as you've as
you said, from even FBI sources of yours, that this
would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an
(06:13):
even like lesser but also equally hard to believe component
of this to me seems to be that the FBI
didn't find this stuff, Like why, how is it possible
that your person, your source was able to find this
online but the FBI wasn't able to write there's the
possibility of being on the radar before the shooting and
(06:35):
the and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that,
But how is it that we didn't know about this before?
Is the FBI? Are we to be told that they're
that incompetent? That is just it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
No, I have no reason to think that the FBI
isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean,
you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they
hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Day, the Deputy
under Ray, did testify that they had this account with
more than seven hundred for their YouTube account. So I
assume they have all of this and much more. The
(07:10):
question is why haven't they been more force coming, particularly
since Trump took over by when I contacted the FBI
about this story and asked them a number of questions,
including I think the most important question, did you have
any interactions with Thomas Crooks before Butler? Did anyone tip
(07:32):
you off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him?
Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told
they should have knocked on his door.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Did you do that?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What's the answer I get from Cash Betel's FBI, No comment,
that's it. So I don't understand it. And you know,
someone else said to me, well, maybe it was a
secret service because in August twenty twenty, Donald Trump was president,
so they have would be the primary agent and see
that we'd go and knock on a door if there's
a threat to one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of their protectives.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But the Secret Service gave me a better response when
I asked them, and they said basically that this would
be this would be something the FBI would do that
even if they said they have no record of crooks,
they said now, but in any case, this is an
FBI responsibility. So I don't even think it's as simple
(08:26):
as for between the cracks between two agencies.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The FBI knows a lot, they have to know a lot.
Just how much I don't know?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And can I jump in with there's something that we
didn't know or at least it wasn't imported until this
week that this guy used they them pronouns and was
interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness.
How could that not have been brought forward if the
FBI was operating in good faith and had access to
(08:55):
this information.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, I mean it's very slim.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I have to emphasize that. But like Tyler Robinson, the
alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there is a connection to
this sexual fetish called furries, which is people dressing up
as animals or enjoying cartoon animal humanized figures, having sex
or being in sexual positions.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So Thomas Crook.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He's not shared any furry staff well talked about it,
but he was frequenting and had two accounts on a
site called deviant Art, which is the major sort of
furry hub online furry hub, and it's sort of for
the furry community, and he doesn't share anything like that.
(09:44):
He does share this sort of bizarre image of a
very muscle bound sort of Sylvester Stallone sort of masculine
body with a female head on top of it, with
a puny little guy next to it that looks like him,
that's sort of in a prostate.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Then they're not dressed, they're addressed in their underwear, So
that's one.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And then other than that, sort of cartoon characters on
this platform that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Are violent, shooting each other in the head and so on.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they
them pronoun stuff and he.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Uses they them pronouns on deviant Art. That's the first
time we've seen that, so clearly some sort of gender
confusion or exploring gender identity again.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Disturbing needs to be explored because we've had so many
gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his
living lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't
think it's enough for Cash Petel say, oh, he was
alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's
a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson,
(10:50):
It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson,
who also did an episode on this last week with
the same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose
job is over sight of the FBI, and he has
been asking since day one for a whole lot of information,
including you know, camera forensics, autopsy, other documents and getting stonewalled,
(11:16):
and even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson
was very angry about the fact that in July, on
the one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena
Cash Pattel for the documents that he's been asking for.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So, you know, we will, we will have our team.
Let's let's get Ron john he may be listening right now.
Let's get Senator Johnson on here, because I want to
talk to him about this as well, because we need
to continue to follow this and push for this. Miranda.
This is all so important and everyone should go read
Miranda's piece at The New York Post. Also her podcast
podforst One. Yep, go go check out her podcast before
(11:56):
Before We Let You Go. Though I know you've got
a whole bunch of hits today, tell me, I want
to let you react to this. Honestly, you know, Clay
and I really appreciate your work and we appreciate you
as a person. Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were
always while you reported on him. You would always say, look,
he's kind of a sad guy, and like, you know,
he might actually and I you always had some when
(12:17):
you would talk to us about this on the air,
some degree of sympathy for the guy, because I think
you're just a nice person. I had to play this
because I want you to react. Hunter Biden here said
mean things about you and Clay and I are ready
to fight him. Play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
There's no ethics in what, you know, like someone as
horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of
her in terms of ethics, it does. I mean she
is you know, a and then and and that goes
for you know, you know, I mean daily Mail and
you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're
(12:51):
hores for money, and you know she does it because
she makes money. And you know, when when she goes
to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just for
you know. I don't know anybody that's going to be
more than her. When she's gone, I think, well.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We appreciate you. Everything you said is a lie and
he's a disgusting piece of trash. I just do you
feel like, oh man, you were too nice to this guy.
He's a horrible human being. He truly is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I still have the same impression of him that I've
always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's
lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he
never refutes a word I said, and what I've written
and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the
pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll that he doesn't know
anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe
(13:43):
it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes
any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that
he traded on his father's name, the fact that his
father was involved in getting him clients and then he
put him on the speakerphone, all that corruption.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
During Joe Biden's vice presidency to Enrich's family.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He doesn't, he doesn't go into any of that and
try and to send himself. He just attacks my appearance
and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know,
it's ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he
should be in prison, as we all know, he should
be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because
of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda,
I think there were a lot of people on the
right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict,
and they try to give some sympathy. I think what
you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. Uh. And
(14:36):
and I and I thought that all along, So, uh,
you know, I just think he showed everybody what a
piece of garbage he is. And I'm just glad that
you did the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him
that you did, and that people knew the truth about
the Bidens in general and the Biden crime family. So
and uh, you know, Claire and I are happy to
(14:57):
have a word with him outside the bar if we
ever see him, you know, after he says these mean things. Yes, anyway, Miranda,
you're the best, You're the best. Yeah, and uh all right,
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
I gotta say, Hunter Biden get really mouthy about our
friend Randon Divine. Could I could we do like a
charity boxing match. I'll get in there with Hunter, you
know what I mean, charity boxing that would be that
would be valid, that would be allowed, all parties could
consent to. And uh, you know, what a what a jerk?
(16:48):
What a jerk that guy is? Well we knew that
all along, but uh, you know, she never went personal
really about him. Yes, she reported on his personal level,
that's all fair game, bend of who he is and
how he's leveraging his dad. But there was never never
done with a viciousness man, Hunter Biden a vicious piece
of trash and he got pardoned by Daddy for all
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of his crimes, for all the abuse, for all the nastiness,
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he's trying to set up. No, he's not. He's just
he's a brat. He's just an old brat, somebody who's
never faced the consequences of reality because of who his
(17:35):
dad is, a corrupt stooge for the Democrats. The whole
thing is just so gross. But anyway, Mariana Devine's on
fantastic reporting that stuff about the FBI though, and Thomas Crooks.
We need more, we need more, we need more info.
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assassin of our own President Donald Trump. Trump was just
in the Oval office and he had quite an exchange
(19:22):
with an ABC reporter. ABC News is you know, propaganda
very much a propaganda network, not a surprise Democrat propaganda
pretending to be objective of journalism, as if anybody could
believe that with a straight face these days. But Trump
really wasn't having it today because they're desperate to just
try to throw some stink in his direction as a
(19:45):
result of this Epstein release that's supposed to be voted
on here in a little bit, in the next hour.
There's supposed to be a vote. Here's how Trump handled
this exchange. I want you to hear a whole thing
with a reporter from ABC News. Listen to it. Is
it appropriate, mister President, for your family to be doing.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Business in Saudi Arabia while you're president?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is that a conflict of interest?
Speaker 8 (20:07):
And your Royal highness? The US Intelligence concluded that you
orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. Not eleven families
are furious that you are here in the overalls.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Who watched Americans?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Who you were?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
And the same gus who you wire? I'm an ABC usir.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
With who ac Sir fakeness, ABC fakeness, one of the worst,
is one of the worst in the business.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
But I'll ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I have nothing to do with a family business.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
I have left and when I've devoted one hundred percent
of my energy, what my family does is fine. They
do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia.
Actually they could. I'm sure they could do a lot,
and anything they've done has been very good. That's what
we've done. We've built a tremendous business. For a long time.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I've been very successful.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
I decided to leave that success fee behind and make
America very successful. And I've made America more successful by
far than it ever was, and that it ever could
have been. No matter who was present, there would be
nobody bringing in twenty one trillion dollars. That I can
tell you right now, as far as this gentleman is concerned,
he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was
(21:09):
extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman
that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't
like him, things happened, but he knew nothing about it.
And we can leave it at that you don't have
to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh, guys, can you get there's more? There's more? Can
we continue find find the He keeps going because I
was I was listening in one of our breaks, one
of our station breaks, as I was prepping for the
next segment. Puller, he really he really lays into her
after that, that's just the beginning of the exchange. We'll
bring you more of it here. Well, you'll notice, did
(21:43):
you ever hear any Biden met with the Saudis? I mean,
would you ever expect something like this, except when you
have a Trump administration. They've just they've got to go
on offense. They know this now they've got to do
anything they can to get people to We're really to
get Trump to spend time dealing with their attacks instead
(22:05):
of continuing to have the focus on this country and
what's going on with the Trump administration agenda, because overall,
I think it's very popular, it's very much working. In fact,
Stephen Miller, one of our favorites, the great. Some people
are saying the great Steven Miller from this White House.
(22:26):
He was saying, this is cut seventeen, that it is
Trump who is doing the most. It is Trump who
who was moving mountain, so to speak. On affordability issues,
Play seventeen.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
The Democrat media lies for a living and they're professional liars.
So it's a good opportunity to review the facts under
President Trump. In the last few months, we've seen the
first significant reductions in prices and the cost of living
since the last time President Trump was in offense for
four years, we saw wreckers setting double digit inflation, inflation
(23:00):
upwards of twenty percent, and now under President Trump, inflation
is back down to desired benchmark levels a little bit
over two percent. But to be clear, President Trump is
doing more every single day to keep bringing costs down.
President Trump is fighting to reduce the cost of energy
to historic lows.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, this is what he's really focused on. And
you'll notice that that the media attacks are always on
on other things. First of all, what is let's just
take this for a second. What is Trump supposed to
do about the Saudi crown prince and the allegation that
he had something to do with that guy Jamal Kashogi's
(23:43):
you know, assassination murder. What is Trump supposed to do
about this? I'm just wondering what is he supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What does ABC News want? You'll notice it's clearly intended
to be an assault, and an attack of whatever proportions
they can get out, they can get out of this.
Do we have more? When Trump really goes after oh yeah, yeah, okay,
(24:13):
yeah yeah. This is where Trump has really had it
with Mary Bruce of ABC News. Trump has really had it,
and here he decides to let her know what he
thinks of for play thirty two. Fine week for Congress
to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Why not just do it?
Speaker 7 (24:30):
No, No, it's not a question that I mind. It's
your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's
the way you ask these questions. You start off with
a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate
and just a terrible question. And you could even ask
that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyches
(24:50):
you over at ABC. You're gonna psych it. You're a
terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the
Epstein file says.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
I have nothing to do with Jeffrey.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I threw him out of my club many years ago
because I thought he was a sick perverb.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
But I guess I would turn out to be right.
But you know who does have Bill c Linton.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night,
every single weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
They lived together. They went to his island many times.
I never did Andrew Weissman here. All these guys were
friends of his. You don't even talk about those people.
You just keep going on the Epstein finals. And what
the Epstein is is.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
A Democrat hoax to try and get me not to
be able to talk about the twenty one trillion dollars
that I talked about today.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
It's a hoax.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
See again, he's saying it's a hoax to try to
wrap Trump into it. He's not saying Epstein's a hoax, obviously,
He's pointing out all the people involved with EPSTEIN as
a matter of record out there in the public, the
facts of the matter. But yeah, he's really he has
really had enough. You know, I've also believe I think
that Trump does feel like now I understand people could say, oh,
(25:59):
what's the job of it journalists to ask the tough
questions of a foreign head of states in the Oval Office.
Find me a clip where anyone from ABC News asked
anything like that during the Biden years. Find me that clip.
The point is, it's two sets of rules. They're journalists
when it excuses them from being ferociously aggressive, and you
(26:22):
know they're stenographers stenographers for power when there's a Democrat administration.
We're all very aware of how this slug goes. Biden
didn't even talk to the media. Biden didn't even talk
to the media and honestly had the dumbest White House
Press secretary I think in the history of the job.
And was I really believe also so incompetent and just
(26:43):
not up to the job that people felt kind of
bad and didn't really Some people just knew that she's
a Democrat that you can't attack her, but other people
felt bad and she's just not up for this, not
up to it, which has become very apparent in Koreine
Jean Pierre's book Tour After the Fact about everything that's
gone on. So just has no idea about anything and
(27:06):
answers almost every question with as a as a black
woman who's a member of the LGBTQ community, comma every question,
every question, She'll even answer a question about her using
that in every question by starting that way. So, yeah,
we all know that the media was in a totally
different space, very different place of operation when it came
(27:30):
to the Biden regime. But anyway, is Trump is. He's
doing a lot of things that I believe are really
helpful to the American people and really matter. And the
other side of things, the other team is doing everything
they can to get the focus off of the issues
(27:53):
that you really care about, off of what is going
to move the needles, so to speak, and get people
thinking much more about whatever salacious gossip they can pretend
is actual reporting. And that's that's something that Trump is
just he's tired of it. He's tired of it, and
(28:14):
he should be. So I commend him for taking the
approach on this that you know, enough, enough is enough.
And here is for example, even over at the Breakfast Club,
this is twenty eight, mister the God Charlemagne saying that
somehow the Bill Clinton relationship with Epstein is so much
(28:37):
less It's so much more robust and documented than anything
with Donald Trump, but so much less interest in this
play twenty eight.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
It's just funny how to new works that Bill Clinton,
you know, wrote a letter to you know, Jeffrey Epstein
as well for his birthday, but nobody's talking about that.
And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton addressed
in high heels, you know, in his New York mansion,
but nobody's talking about that. My thing is this, I
don't care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go burn
it on now.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
That's just as.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Simple as that mutually showed destruction. Whoevers on that list
need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. I
don't care what party they.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Are, no period.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
And you know, to that point, though, you know, Clinton
is not the president right now.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
You know if he was, you think that anyways, Yeah,
I think he would still be under scrutiny if he
was the president right now.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
No, he was, Liberal media wouldn't push the issue, that
is correct, I like the last thing he threw in there,
mister the god coming to the uh, to the side
of reality there. But of course if Clinton were president now,
they were just they would do exactly what they're doing,
which is pretend that what is actually the public record
on this issue with something else. They would they would
(29:46):
lie about it, and they would make it seem like
Trump even said this today in the Oval office. He said,
I'm the one who kicked him out of the club
and thought he was a creep. Clinton was honest. How
many guys? How many times was Clinton on the plane?
Can you I forget the number? It was a lot,
It's a lot. Spent a lot of time with this
guy and the people. Trump never went to the island.
(30:07):
A lot of people went to this island. That's kind
of a big move.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How many people? Uh, well, I mean, I know you're
talking about the the kind of global elites here, but
how many people would you be like, Yeah, you know,
I don't know you that well, but I'm gonna get
on your plane, your private plane, and fly to your
private island to hang out, right. That's uh wouldn't you
(30:33):
have to know someone really well before you'd want to
do that. Wouldn't you want to really know who you're
dealing with. Look, I'm ie, I get in I get
invites to, uh, you know, the people sometimes even kind
of like prominent famous people. I get invited to, you know,
some things here, not a lot because I'm a pretty
private person outside of my work. But you know, I'm
(30:54):
just telling you, if someone I didn't know said, hey,
will you hop on my private plane and go to
my private island for the week because I just want
to talk. I would say, how about a coffee? How
about we go for a stroll first. There's different layers,
different connectivity that has been established in this public record,
(31:15):
and they keep desperately trying to dirty Trump up with this,
and it just doesn't stick because it's not there. There's
no they're there, and they on the other side, they
pretend to be the great defenders of these women who
are victimized by Epstein that left the Democrats. They pretend
that that's what they care about, but no, they only
care about it in so far as they can use
(31:36):
it as a weapon against Trump in some way. And
they're far less interested in pushing on what is much
more apparent, which is the deep and enduring relationships that
some of the biggest donors to the Democrat Party, so
the most important people, the former president of the Democrat Party,
that they don't really seem that interested. I know that
(31:59):
all of a sudden, they get they get confused, Oh yeah, confused. Sure, Look,
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If you will, we will do some talkbacks here. We
have someone from Minneapolis. Didn't say his name, but here's
what he says about my conversation with Clay yesterday about
tipping people everywhere for everything. Play a A.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Hey, guys, I realize it's not the point of your
whole story, but the tipping part. If I'm sitting down
and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm
standing up ordering my own food and clearing my own dishes,
I'm not tipping, period. In the story. That's how the
world should work.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I don't disagree with your with your rule there at all.
And I wanted to be clear, Yester. I wasn't saying
to people, you know, everyone has to make their own
make their own budgets and take care of their you know,
themselves and their families first and foremost, obviously being fair
to people who are servers and stuff in the process.
But I was just saying, I have given up on
(34:58):
enforcing that rule of my own life because I just
figure anybody and I'm coming across in the service industry,
you know, it's like I'm spreading spreading some loot around.
That's my idea. That's how I do things. I'm very
blessed fortunate in life. And uh, you know, just trying
just trying to be generous in my own community and
with little ways I can, and to those who are
(35:18):
in a position where they're not worried about week to week,
month to month bills. You know, just tip thirty percent,
you know, give give people especially we're working really hard.
I mean, I think it's it's so important to show
appreciation for people how you can when you can with
a little money. All right, here we go. Bob from
(35:39):
Houston wants to weigh in on our dating conversation. B
B hit it way buck. I learned early on that
girls are just like guys.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
We all just want a nice, respectful friendship that may
blossom into a relationship. And well I learned that then
talking to any group of girls in high school was
no problem. Now it wasn't you know, trying to pick
up a date or anything like that, but you know,
just making daily conversation to me, that was just really great.
So and lo and behold, it was actually through a
friend that I met my wife, and we've known each
other for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Married thirteen Bob, I'm glad it all worked. Jaffrey. I'm
a big believer. I always say this to people. Just
talk to people. You'd be amazed at how much you
learn and how much opens up to you. You're just
willing to talk to folks. Talk to people as you can,
as you come across them. I'll say also that the
idea of a pickup line, here's my thing. I don't
think the pickup line really matters. What helps people is
(36:29):
that the pickup line gives guys. Guys the ones who
do pick up lines right, It gives them the confidence
to approach a woman that they're then speaking to, and
because they think, oh, I have a pickup line, they
come across as confident and ready to engage. The line
doesn't really matter. But I wouldn't go with may I
meet you for most of you out there, unless you're
(36:50):
going to do it in an ironic and funny way,
and maybe that'll work great. In fact, I bet there
are people who are gonna get married because of Bi
Blackman's may I meet you? Because he said it and
then the lady laughed response.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
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