February 18, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. By the way, we'll be
in the same studio for the rest of the week.
I'll be down in Miami. We're going to be meeting
with some advertisers and it's not a bad time to
be in Miami. It's it's frigid pretty much everywhere else
in the country, So hop in a flight headed down there.
So that should be fun for those of you watching
(00:27):
on video looking forward to that. We've been talking about
what's going on with CBS News and their sudden embrace
alongside of other networks of the idea that the First
Amendment is what caused the Holocaust, and I would encourage
you to go listen to the first hour some of
the clips and discussion that we had there very good.
Top of the last hour, we talked with Senator Tom Cotton,
(00:50):
who's got a new book out about some of the
challenges geopolitically with China, with Ukraine, with Russia, and also
about Bridge Colby, which has turned into a bit of
a battle out there in terms of confirmation. All of
that in the first couple of hours, and then I'm
getting lit up by a lot of bigfoot people out there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You walked right, you walked right into it, you walked
into the yettis layer. I did.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I thought Bigfoot, the Yetti and the Abominable Snowman were
not all the same thing. Bigfoot nation out there, Abominable
Snowman Nation, Yetti. They are just lighting me up. It's
like when I I also people, I think the preferred
nomenclature might be sasquatch, just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Show off.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I look, my knowledge of the Bigfoot is basically from
sitting around and watching I think it was an A
and E show.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, but but be honest, did you cry at the
end of Harry and the hendershins When I knew it,
I knew we were gonna have Harry and Henderson's question.
That was a great movie. That was good. That was
a nice John Lithgow appearance.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Harry and the Henderson's Back in the day. This all
started because we couldn't talk to our pilot friend. And
also a lot of you scarily agree with me on
my conspiracy theory about the Pyramids.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I just I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I don't believe that the Egyptians, using the technology that
the Egyptians had available to them at that point in time,
built the pyramids without there being something that we do
not understand about the creation of the pyramids. That is,
that is my conspiracy theory out there. Now, some of
you may be engineers and you may be able to
(02:46):
refute that conspiracy theory. In ernest there's probably an Egyptian
pyramid expert listening to us right now that has just
thrown his radio across the room, that is right now
sending me an email about how he'll never listened to
the show again because of my Egyptian pyramid conspiracy theory.
But that is what we have been covering lots of
(03:08):
ground now. A bunch of pilots went away in because
the way we were finishing the last hour was talking
about the video that has now gone viral of a
Delta Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Toronto that landed in
what appears to be high winds and ended up flipping
over onto its roof.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Everyone it appears has survived.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Really kind of remarkable that there were I think there's
a couple of people in serious condition in the hospital.
But the story has been that everyone is going to
survive on that plane, and there are lots of videos
that saw of them exiting. If you just saw that video,
you'd be like a lot of people are dead totally.
You would just because because there's a flame when it
hit the ground, I think you. But everyone walked out.
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Everyone walked out.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Gary in California, retired airline captain. He says he's here
and ready to talk to us. Gary, what did you see?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes, the wind was a gusting forty knots, but it
was not a cross wood. Look at the video. The
smoke is blowing right down the runway from the fire.
The pilot did not appear to break his sink rate,
and he smacked onto the runway just like a Navy
carrier landing. This was probably the result of the winds gusting,
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which would call wind shear, and your airplane things is
going one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He had a wind shear.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Suddenly the plane was going one hundred and kin and
it drops like an anvil. The hard landing likely pushed
the landing gear strut into the wing, rushing the fuel
igniting the fireball that we saw in the video is right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Also that it seemed like the plane wings didn't flare
like they flare or they kind of do something to
slow and that didn't happen. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, my take is he.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Had so hard the right gear pushed up into the
wing that resulted in fire and the wing ripped off.
And now think of a bicycle when you were four
years old and had a training wheel. That plane couldn't
have rolled over if the wing would have stayed on,
because it would have been like a training wheel, couldn't
have done it. So I think that the wing got
ripped off due to the strup being and the fire
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and the immensity.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Of it all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So Claike, thank you, sir, thank you for sharing your expertise.
I'll just point this out. We got VIPs, we got
we got a lot of people that fly planes. Listen here,
military planes, commercial planes, and this is interesting. Ray are VIP.
I read to you from the BBC which was saying
that the wings were designed to come off. This is
(05:44):
not my theory. I'm just saying this is what an
FAA inspector allegedly is telling the BBC. VIP Ray says,
I'm a retired DoD aerospace engineer of thirty four years.
Wings are not designed to break off, and aircraft is
designed to stay in one piece, not to fall apart.
We designed for the maximum expected loads and then add
a fifty percent margin of safety to ensure that it
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stays together even if the maximum expected load is exceeded
or if there's damage to the structure. Let me just say,
I would have assumed what Ray was saying was true
until I read this this thing, and obviously in this
video the wings just come like right off this plane.
I mean just you know, boom, like they pop off almost.
I just would like some clarity on this, Clay. I'd
like to know if plane wings are supposed to come
(06:26):
off on impact, if it's a certain kind of impact
or not. I'm leaning toward no. But then I don't
understand because it wasn't just the BBC a bunch of
places we're reporting this. I thought that was was strange.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Have you ever landed in a scary situation in an airplane?
Have you ever been apprehends helicopters in a rock got
real sketchy if you tell well, helicopters in general, are
there and you're in a war zonell when people start
shooting guns, Yes, then it's that it feels very that,
it feels very sketchy. So yeah, I would say I'm
(06:59):
very thankful for the two forty golf gunner.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I believe it was a two forty golf who was there.
But I would say the only time my brothers, if
they're listening that moment talking about we flew when we
were in Alaska, which is a trip you and your
family should absolutely do. By the way, I would love
to go, and we've got We've got an awesome and
dedicated audience in Anchorage. So thank you for listening up
there in Anchorage, Alaska. But we did some of the
(07:24):
like the small planes in Alaska. A couple of those,
like the turbulent air situation, got really sketched in a
small plane too, because the thing is, you feel like
if that plane goes down, I don't even know if
it's a national news story, it's just like in the
Anchorage Daily Ledger or something.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, Well, that happens all the time in Alaska because
weather conditions can change so frequently and it's not an
easy place to get around. I've been in a lot
of small planes, but I think it was last year.
I don't remember if I talked about it on the air.
I was flying to DC and we were supposed to
land at National and the pilot came on and said, Hey,
(08:03):
our brakes are not functioning correctly, and so we're going
to have to land at BWI, which is Baltimore Washington International.
And because they had a longer runway and they were
concerned about us running off the end of the runway,
I wasn't that concerned about it until buck we came
(08:24):
in for the landing and they had I'm not kidding,
probably ten different fire engines all lined up along the runway,
and I was like, well, now this is this is
not good. And when we landed, the pilot said, hey,
we got all the firemen around here, so it's going
(08:47):
to be a while.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We want to make sure that the plane's not on fire.
And I wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Nervous until I was like, boy, you know when you
turn around you start to come in for the landing,
and I looked out my window and I saw all
of the fire engines lined up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And I was like, yeah, this is not good.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And obviously what I'm getting at here with this plane
is It does not appear to me that they thought
in any way it was a dangerous landing, because if
they had, they would have had all of the fire
engines lined up for what happened there, which was to
put out the fire. Right, it does not appear to
(09:25):
me based on the videos that I've seen. But they
have our pilots and retired pilots here Drew in Denver,
retired pilot.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Drew good talking to you, guys, I listened to Gary there. Well,
let me give you a couple of things. First of all,
the weather and the winds were they were nowhere near
the max for this airplane. They were the airplane was
more than capable of landing in the weather. In fact,
everybody did during that day. I watched all the videos,
(09:53):
including the landing, and it just looks like you had
a hard landing. The question comes was on the center
line of the runway when it happened. And also what
we don't know is that stuff does happen like corrosion,
things like that, and you wouldn't have noticed it because
hard landing's happened, and this may have been the one
(10:14):
that broke the landing gear and then can.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Cast you a question again from a civilian perspective, Sir,
I'm just curious, Okay, would you like if the pilot's
coming in for that hard landing though the speed gage?
He must know, right, I mean, it's not like a
surprise like I'm going to be hitting the ground really
hard in three to one. I mean, is he aware,
like would he have given a distress call on the
way down or can it be kind of a surprise?
Speaker 6 (10:38):
No, hear you plan on that. You actually add airspeed
to you watch the wind gust around. There's a whole
formula for adding airspeed on the final approach just for
the winds and the gusts and things like that. That's
really normal in the airplanes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
But I'm saying, would he know he's going in at
a hard landing though before it's too late to do
anything about it?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Oh, he wouldn't have known it was a hard landing
till last minute when he forgot or or was slightly
behind the airplane and didn't bring the nose up high
enough and the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay, so it can be quick, I mean, so pilot
error can be what happened here that I'm not saying
it is, but it could be just massive pilot error.
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
It could be part of the equation. That's why I
emphasized is a couple things. Maybe's off center light on
the right side of the runaway, hard landing, the landing
gear dips, the brakes, the wing hits the snow that's
alongside the runway, or even the landing gears hits maybe
a snow or something on the side of the runway.
There's a lot of factors here.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you you've been a pilot for a while, I
asked the question, are you more or less optimistic about
airline safety today than you would have been in two thousand,
twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Well, I will tell you this that over my career
started in the late seventies, that the pilots today are
better trained and more discipline than they were back in
the eighties, just because of the safety standards. Whenever there's
an accident like this, everybody goes through. In fact, I
was in our flight training and Checking and Standards department
(12:11):
at one time. Everybody goes through use all these accidents,
looks at all the problems. Is as from a pilot standpoint,
what can we do to break the chain, and that's
the key words. What can we do in the case
of landings like this? Yet, when the wind you add
more speed up to a certain point. If you had
too much speed, you're going to go way down the runway.
Now you get another problem. You're going to go off
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the end and the other ends. So they will learn
from this. The pilots, they are better those pilots in
that what we call an art day.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ask you, so you're retired, so I assume you spent
many years piloting aircraft as a pilot. What was the
scariest thing that ever happened when you were on a plane?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm a radio hosting, is what I do.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm on the radio right now talking to
you guys. Oh what's the scarious thing? There was nothing
that was so scary. I didn't think we could handle it.
I think the most interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
To tell you, A couple of million people just exhaled
a little bit across the country as you said that.
They're like, okay, I'm gonna be okay my next flight
keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I always tell this because one time, one night I
was out over the middle of the ocean and the
engine one of our engines quit and we handled it
all superbly and all that. I think My biggest bother
is I haven't eaten dinner yet. Now we have to
go back and land before eight dinner. So that's just
to be cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How far is this over the Atlantic when one engine
goes out? Like how far over the ocean were.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You this particular case, we were coming out of Honolulu
on our way to the mainland, and we had not
quite got to what we call over we entered the
Oceanic we were in cruise flight. We're still talking to
the Honolulu air Traffic Control. It's basically we just turned
around about forty five minutes and landed back in Honolulu.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So what percentage of people notice if the plane turns
then goes back in the other direction? Like, was everybody nervous?
Do you tell them that one engine's gone out? Like
what does the pilot notice to the uh to the
I mean the crew may know, but like the actual passengers,
do you have an obligation to inform them those kind
of things?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Absolutely, First of all, we have to take care of
the whatever it is that's going on in emergency or situation. Uh,
talk to our flight attendants because they have to deal
with the passengers. And in this case, the flight intend's
already knew because whenever an engine quits, the electrical system
does a transfer and everything kind of flashes its lights.
And then after we communicate, I communicate as captain to
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the flight attendants, and we decide what we're going to do.
We make the announcement to the passengers that we're going back,
in this case to Hanlulu. But we've lost over the years.
It happens every single day. Something's going on in the
airline business. You just don't hear about it. People have
mechanical failures, hydraulic failures, and they always land in success.
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Obviously this one.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
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We'll continue to take some of your calls. A lot
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in the American way to this program. Shortly, we're going
to take a bunch of their calls, and I would
just say, Clay, my funniest quick Sasquatch story is when
I was doing solo radio years ago, I mentioned that
I had seen a Bigfoot movie that was actually very
violent and terrifying, and one of the actors in the
(17:05):
movie was listening. Oh, I remember you talked about this.
He called in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he called in. He
was like the lead bad guy in the movie too,
and I was like, this is wild and we actually
ended up having to drink out in La. He's a
great guy. But it was kind of funny because I
got like all the backstory of the movie. The other
actor apparently lost his leg in a motorcycle accident, so
(17:26):
they had him finish the movie with a prosthetic. They
like took a break. It was a crazy story, but
very interesting. But yes, it was called Primal something or other,
and it is it is like Sasquatch that is really evil.
So I would not recommend that one for the Harry
and the Henderson for the kids. I'm telling it's like,
if you haven't seen it, a lot of fun, uh
(17:46):
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
Might be a senator, might be a president, might be
a governor, might be a discussion about whether the Egyptians
really built the pyramids or not. Buck, My confusion between
Yetti's Bigfoot's abominable Snowman's has provoked great disturbance in the
Clay and Buck Force. Don't leave Sasquatch off the list.
(19:30):
Sasquatches as well. But I said, conspiracy theory. I just
don't buy that Egypt and the Egyptians, with their modern
technology at that time, built all the pyramids and there's
not something else going on that we don't know about.
But as I said, would likely be the case. Eric
(19:53):
in Milwaukee has called in he is an ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. Explain Eric, how you become a ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. But this is just evidence of what we
talk about. Buck, Whatever topic we discuss, there is someone
who is an expert out there listening.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well, lots of school to put it briefly, all.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right, so how disgusted Eric can ask him a question
before you get the pyramid thing. I'm just curious. Have
you ever been at a at a tomb of one
of these pharaohs and had a little voice to back
your head like, I hope there's not some weird curse
here or does that never cross your mind?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
No, but it reminds me of that Time Life book
series commercial where the guy put took metal, made it
into the shape of an ancient symbol and pointed it
at stone ends and then he felt the energy go
to his body.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh okay, cool, all right, Clay, you had a real
question about the pyramids.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Now that's a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, all right, So we can you hear someone like
me say, I just don't buy it. I don't buy
that they had the technology. I think something else is
going on here. First of all, you probably hear it
a decent amount because there's lots of people who are
morons like me. But your reaction is what and you
feel that we should know what so that we are
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better informed.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Well, so, as far as the archaeological evidence around the
Great Pyramids. They've excavated the remains of earthen ramps. The
quarries are nearby, some of which with partially quarried stone
still in place, as well as they've excavated the breweries,
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the bakeries for the workers, the barracks where they lived.
They've also recently, just in the last few years, found
some papyri. The actually the most ancient inscribed pyrie in
existence near the Red Seed are bureaucratic documents describing a
(22:03):
lot of background on worker groups. You know, it wasn't
the slaves that built the Great Pyramids. It was people
from various villages around ancient Egypt that worked as corve
labor and came during opportune times of the year where
they didn't have response agricultural responsibilities and came and worked
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and sometimes even left uh graffiti how they were proud
that they had built this particular part of the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So you have zero doubt of that the Egyptians built
the pyramid using their modern technology at the time. Ramps
circling the pyramids. Is there anything you believe that would
be considered controversial in the Eastern European SR in the
archaeological universe in which you are an expert. In other words,
(22:57):
Buck asked me, did I believe in a conspiration? And
I'm just I'm skeptical about the pyramids. Is there anything
that you believe that would be considered controversial in your
chosen field? Or are there any conspiracies and other fields
that you believe in, or as a man of rigor
science and archaeology, do you believe in nothing like that.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Usually the controversies are surrounding like there's a very ancient
temple that's been excavated in Turkey. I'm going to probably
mess up the name, but it's a gobleiky tet bee.
And the debates are when it predates, like the invention
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of writing, and there's only like symbols and various stone
shapes and things to deal with before we're writing. That's
when you get into a lot of the more like
controversial theories and people really debating about the meaning of
certain time amples are and things like that, and that
that comes that comes out in articles and in conferences
(24:06):
where people yell at each other and things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So do you have any conspiracy theories? Is there anything
you believe in that you think is controversial? In the
larger world like Blackness Monster, Bigfoot, any of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Oh well, I've always found the Lockness Monster kind of intriguing.
I don't. I've been to Scotland, but not that far
north that I've seen the locks, so I can't say
for myself. But I did have that Time Life book
series as a kid, Mysteries of the.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Unknown, So there we go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I had that curse. What about curses?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Do you buy into the concept of Buck asked you,
But like, do you think there's anything to the idea
of a curse in any way?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Tout? Wasn't there a King tut curse when they went
into his tomb? And then people?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And was it Howard Carter who found it? Like there's
all these different things. Do you buy into the concept
of a curve?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Well, I know.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
They they wrote them down, yes, As to whether they
were effective or not to name then you have to
then that gets into believing whether the ancient Egyptian gods
will actually had power and existed. So no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
All righty, sir, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
Appreciate you joining us. And it's so fun that we
have so many brilliant and varied experts in this audience. Clay,
I just want to point something out because I love
when I get to just, you know, dogpile on you
with the audience if you get something wrong. But I'm
also here. I'm a man of honor, and I'm here
(25:37):
to tell you that you were correct that the Himalayan
creature is referred to as as Yeti and Sasquatch. This
according to Google AI. So argue with Google AI. The
abominable snowman. Okay, well, abominable snowman is here, Yeti is Himalayan.
It's not all the same though, as the point, you
were right about that, That's what I thought I'm getting
(25:59):
with MLA is abominable snowman. I cannot believe we're talking
about this, guys. I promise tomorrow I'll get back to
saving the republic. Abominable snowman is for here, Bigfoot obviously here,
Sasquatch here. There's apparently in Florida folklore. As a Floridian,
I like to learn about my state something called the
skunk Ape. According to AI, I'd never even heard of
(26:22):
this before. There's something I can't even read it on
the air because it's spelled fo u k e. Monster
in West Virginia. You ever heard of this? I don't
know how even say that. I don't want to try
to say it on the radio. If it sounds it's
like something I shouldn't say. And then anyway, there's lots
of variations of this, but cultures all over the world
have names for this version of what we would.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Call what's a good question that it's like just a
fun topic if you need a dinner table conversation. What
is the last truly shocking discovery that has occurred in
America or in the world that Epstein's suicide?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't know, Well, how shocking? How shocking do we
have to go? Yeah? I mean like something that was
earth shattering?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
For instance, there's this report that there is a three
percent chance, sorry everybody, that an asteroid's gonna hit Earth
in twenty thirty two, Right, I would say that an
asteroid striking Earth. Now you can say, COVID whatever, what
is the last truly earth shattering discovery?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
In some way?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
In like I can't think of anything in my mind.
Like obviously, like we all have phones and we can
walk around that. In nineteen sixty if you'd been like Hey,
you're gonna have the entire world's history in the palm
of your hand, and you'll be able to access any
information like that would have been fairly remarkable. But I
think people could have predicted it right. It wasn't crazy,
(27:57):
like what is the last thing that happened where you
were like, Holy crap, I can't believe we now know
this and we didn't know this before.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I I'm probably stepping into it here because I'm not
as up on this as I should be. But I
do think that there's you know, you know who's talking
about it recently was Mel Gibson actually, and I was
listening to Mel Gibson to discuss it the shroud of
Turin and how it is from with radiocarbon dating, it
is from the period of Jesus, and that is the
(28:29):
newest report. I'm not an expert, you know, I'm not
I when I say expert, like, I'm not even up
on all the details. But I do know that there
was a little bit of a whoa, this is actually
from the right time period for this who have been
a real artifact.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I think that that whole story is I thought it
was cool I read all about that. I mean, I
have a lot of interest in ancient history. For instance,
they just found the oldest structure in London that the
Romans built, right underneath the thirty story building that they're building.
I just came back from Israel, where you know, anybody
(29:05):
who actually travels to the Middle East or Europe or
certainly Italy or you recognize how fragile and young our
country is. But when you're looking at walls that are
thousands and thousands of years old that were built in
biblical times and pre biblical recorded history, I just I'm
(29:25):
trying to think, like, what was the last earth shattering
discovery that was made that changed the way that people
conceive of the world around them and have You can
tweet me because there may be some great answers. I
can't think of any, right, I mean, there are things
that we do that are remarkable, like again the phone
and the information all being in the palm of our hands.
(29:47):
But I mean something we discovered and people were in display.
For instance, you know back in the fifteen hundreds, it
would have been kind of remarkable when people started saying, hey,
you know, there's a whole new world if you just
get on the ocean and you keep going far enough,
you come to a new land and no one has
(30:07):
ever really been there before.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And it's a truly new world. What is the last
thing that was at an earth shattering discovery? I can't
even think of one. Well, we'll put it out there
for everybody. You can let Clay handle some of these
to close us out here in just a second. You
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Speaker 2 (31:46):
Buck ducking out to close the show, I will be
here solo with you, guys. We'll be together down in Miami,
presuming I can take off. We got weather snow coming
into the Nashville area, so we'll see whether or not
I can get out.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
A lot of you weighing in.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I've got a thesis for you, and you know when
I give a thesis sometimes it's dangerous. The most important
discovery maybe in the history of modern archaeology in terms
of being able to understand the past Hamarabi's Code nineteen
(32:25):
oh one, that basically unlocked all of the hieroglyphics so
we could actually understand what was being said that in
all of the Egyptian writings.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They didn't find it until nineteen oh one. You guys
have deluged me with the last great truly transformative discovery
that changed the way the world.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Was looked at. Electricity greatest achievement in terms of changing
the world, followed by the lunar landing nineteen sixty nine.
I think that's a decent argument, landing on the moon
nineteen sixty nine, But that would tie in with my
(33:12):
thesis that there has been no great, truly earth shattering
change in my lifetime. This is kind of the thought
that I had as I was walking around in all
the cathedrals in Italy and looking at how majestic and
incredible all of those edifices were. That things were built,
(33:34):
and hundreds of years later, thousands of years later, sometimes
we still gaze upon them with awe. Is there anything
in my lifetime that will have that sort of relevancy
and length of recognition and importance. I think that's a
(33:54):
I think that's a really interesting question. The nuke, several
of you reaching out and saying, hey, the ability to
create a nuclear bomb. Certainly, discovery of the dinosaurs, which
frankly relatively recent if you've got kids or grandkids. The
degree to which the world changed with the discovery of dinosaurs,
(34:20):
I think it's really kind of kind of amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Flight.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Certainly again relatively recent vintage Wilbur and Orville Wright Kitty Hawk,
North Carolina. Wasn't that long ago that the idea of
an airplane would have seemed crazy. A lot of people
weighing in. I love all that feedback. You can find
me on Twitter at Clay Travis, DNA, VIP, Laurel Watson,
(34:48):
and Crick. Very good, very good. Take there.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The Rose.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Now, Greg, don't ask me questions while I'm on air.
You're getting me crossed over. Now, I think you're right.
Was it the Hamarabi Code? I think the Hamarabi code
was the written the written law, right. I think I'm
talking about the Rosetta Stone that was actually so when
was the Rosetta Stone? So you got me all crossed up.
(35:19):
A lot of you went a weigh in, Mark in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
What you got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Mark by Clay, I'm gonna have to probably try to
call in tomorrow. I'm an aerospace engineer. I worked personally
on the CRJ program, and I've got some thoughts about
the CRJ nine hundred where where it lists in on
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the size of that aircraft, that airframe. I'll give you
a call tomorrow because there's too much technical stuff about
what might have gone wrong with this landing. It's probably
not pilot error. It's probably wind shear that ended up
making that landing gear go through the go through the wings.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
There is no way in the world.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That any airframe manufacturer designed a wing to break off
wings are trying to end up taking a huge amount
of overload.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Thank you for the call. By the way, so the
BBC is wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because Buck was reading directly from the BBC about wind
shear and the winds designed to pull up.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I think that's the.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
First time a caller has ever called us and said, hey, guys,
I'm about to call you tomorrow. He teased his own call.
It was thank you for catching it. Mark the Rosetta
stone I was talking about. Hamarabi's code was the first
wall written apology.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Flee Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of
truth fo
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. By the way, we'll be
in the same studio for the rest of the week.
I'll be down in Miami. We're going to be meeting
with some advertisers and it's not a bad time to
be in Miami. It's it's frigid pretty much everywhere else
in the country, So hop in a flight headed down there.
So that should be fun for those of you watching
(00:27):
on video looking forward to that. We've been talking about
what's going on with CBS News and their sudden embrace
alongside of other networks of the idea that the First
Amendment is what caused the Holocaust, and I would encourage
you to go listen to the first hour some of
the clips and discussion that we had there very good.
Top of the last hour, we talked with Senator Tom Cotton,
(00:50):
who's got a new book out about some of the
challenges geopolitically with China, with Ukraine, with Russia, and also
about Bridge Colby, which has turned into a bit of
a battle out there in terms of confirmation. All of
that in the first couple of hours, and then I'm
getting lit up by a lot of bigfoot people out there.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You walked right, you walked right into it, you walked
into the yettis layer. I did.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I thought Bigfoot, the Yetti and the Abominable Snowman were
not all the same thing. Bigfoot nation out there, Abominable
Snowman Nation, Yetti. They are just lighting me up. It's
like when I I also people, I think the preferred
nomenclature might be sasquatch, just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Show off.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I look, my knowledge of the Bigfoot is basically from
sitting around and watching I think it was an A
and E show.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, but but be honest, did you cry at the
end of Harry and the hendershins When I knew it,
I knew we were gonna have Harry and Henderson's question.
That was a great movie. That was good. That was
a nice John Lithgow appearance.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Harry and the Henderson's Back in the day. This all
started because we couldn't talk to our pilot friend. And
also a lot of you scarily agree with me on
my conspiracy theory about the Pyramids.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I just I just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I don't believe that the Egyptians, using the technology that
the Egyptians had available to them at that point in time,
built the pyramids without there being something that we do
not understand about the creation of the pyramids. That is,
that is my conspiracy theory out there. Now, some of
you may be engineers and you may be able to
(02:46):
refute that conspiracy theory. In ernest there's probably an Egyptian
pyramid expert listening to us right now that has just
thrown his radio across the room, that is right now
sending me an email about how he'll never listened to
the show again because of my Egyptian pyramid conspiracy theory.
But that is what we have been covering lots of
(03:08):
ground now. A bunch of pilots went away in because
the way we were finishing the last hour was talking
about the video that has now gone viral of a
Delta Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Toronto that landed in
what appears to be high winds and ended up flipping
over onto its roof.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Everyone it appears has survived.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Really kind of remarkable that there were I think there's
a couple of people in serious condition in the hospital.
But the story has been that everyone is going to
survive on that plane, and there are lots of videos
that saw of them exiting. If you just saw that video,
you'd be like a lot of people are dead totally.
You would just because because there's a flame when it
hit the ground, I think you. But everyone walked out.
(03:52):
Everyone walked out.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Gary in California, retired airline captain. He says he's here
and ready to talk to us. Gary, what did you see?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes, the wind was a gusting forty knots, but it
was not a cross wood. Look at the video. The
smoke is blowing right down the runway from the fire.
The pilot did not appear to break his sink rate,
and he smacked onto the runway just like a Navy
carrier landing. This was probably the result of the winds gusting,
(04:22):
which would call wind shear, and your airplane things is
going one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He had a wind shear.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Suddenly the plane was going one hundred and kin and
it drops like an anvil. The hard landing likely pushed
the landing gear strut into the wing, rushing the fuel
igniting the fireball that we saw in the video is right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Also that it seemed like the plane wings didn't flare
like they flare or they kind of do something to
slow and that didn't happen. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, my take is he.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Had so hard the right gear pushed up into the
wing that resulted in fire and the wing ripped off.
And now think of a bicycle when you were four
years old and had a training wheel. That plane couldn't
have rolled over if the wing would have stayed on,
because it would have been like a training wheel, couldn't
have done it. So I think that the wing got
ripped off due to the strup being and the fire
(05:21):
and the immensity.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Of it all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So Claike, thank you, sir, thank you for sharing your expertise.
I'll just point this out. We got VIPs, we got
we got a lot of people that fly planes. Listen here,
military planes, commercial planes, and this is interesting. Ray are VIP.
I read to you from the BBC which was saying
that the wings were designed to come off. This is
(05:44):
not my theory. I'm just saying this is what an
FAA inspector allegedly is telling the BBC. VIP Ray says,
I'm a retired DoD aerospace engineer of thirty four years.
Wings are not designed to break off, and aircraft is
designed to stay in one piece, not to fall apart.
We designed for the maximum expected loads and then add
a fifty percent margin of safety to ensure that it
(06:06):
stays together even if the maximum expected load is exceeded
or if there's damage to the structure. Let me just say,
I would have assumed what Ray was saying was true
until I read this this thing, and obviously in this
video the wings just come like right off this plane.
I mean just you know, boom, like they pop off almost.
I just would like some clarity on this, Clay. I'd
like to know if plane wings are supposed to come
(06:26):
off on impact, if it's a certain kind of impact
or not. I'm leaning toward no. But then I don't
understand because it wasn't just the BBC a bunch of
places we're reporting this. I thought that was was strange.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Have you ever landed in a scary situation in an airplane?
Have you ever been apprehends helicopters in a rock got
real sketchy if you tell well, helicopters in general, are
there and you're in a war zonell when people start
shooting guns, Yes, then it's that it feels very that,
it feels very sketchy. So yeah, I would say I'm
(06:59):
very thankful for the two forty golf gunner.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I believe it was a two forty golf who was there.
But I would say the only time my brothers, if
they're listening that moment talking about we flew when we
were in Alaska, which is a trip you and your
family should absolutely do. By the way, I would love
to go, and we've got We've got an awesome and
dedicated audience in Anchorage. So thank you for listening up
there in Anchorage, Alaska. But we did some of the
(07:24):
like the small planes in Alaska. A couple of those,
like the turbulent air situation, got really sketched in a
small plane too, because the thing is, you feel like
if that plane goes down, I don't even know if
it's a national news story, it's just like in the
Anchorage Daily Ledger or something.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, Well, that happens all the time in Alaska because
weather conditions can change so frequently and it's not an
easy place to get around. I've been in a lot
of small planes, but I think it was last year.
I don't remember if I talked about it on the air.
I was flying to DC and we were supposed to
land at National and the pilot came on and said, Hey,
(08:03):
our brakes are not functioning correctly, and so we're going
to have to land at BWI, which is Baltimore Washington International.
And because they had a longer runway and they were
concerned about us running off the end of the runway,
I wasn't that concerned about it until buck we came
(08:24):
in for the landing and they had I'm not kidding,
probably ten different fire engines all lined up along the runway,
and I was like, well, now this is this is
not good. And when we landed, the pilot said, hey,
we got all the firemen around here, so it's going
(08:47):
to be a while.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We want to make sure that the plane's not on fire.
And I wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Nervous until I was like, boy, you know when you
turn around you start to come in for the landing,
and I looked out my window and I saw all
of the fire engines lined up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And I was like, yeah, this is not good.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And obviously what I'm getting at here with this plane
is It does not appear to me that they thought
in any way it was a dangerous landing, because if
they had, they would have had all of the fire
engines lined up for what happened there, which was to
put out the fire. Right, it does not appear to
(09:25):
me based on the videos that I've seen. But they
have our pilots and retired pilots here Drew in Denver,
retired pilot.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Drew good talking to you, guys, I listened to Gary there. Well,
let me give you a couple of things. First of all,
the weather and the winds were they were nowhere near
the max for this airplane. They were the airplane was
more than capable of landing in the weather. In fact,
everybody did during that day. I watched all the videos,
(09:53):
including the landing, and it just looks like you had
a hard landing. The question comes was on the center
line of the runway when it happened. And also what
we don't know is that stuff does happen like corrosion,
things like that, and you wouldn't have noticed it because
hard landing's happened, and this may have been the one
(10:14):
that broke the landing gear and then can.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Cast you a question again from a civilian perspective, Sir,
I'm just curious, Okay, would you like if the pilot's
coming in for that hard landing though the speed gage?
He must know, right, I mean, it's not like a
surprise like I'm going to be hitting the ground really
hard in three to one. I mean, is he aware,
like would he have given a distress call on the
way down or can it be kind of a surprise?
Speaker 6 (10:38):
No, hear you plan on that. You actually add airspeed
to you watch the wind gust around. There's a whole
formula for adding airspeed on the final approach just for
the winds and the gusts and things like that. That's
really normal in the airplanes.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
But I'm saying, would he know he's going in at
a hard landing though before it's too late to do
anything about it?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Oh, he wouldn't have known it was a hard landing
till last minute when he forgot or or was slightly
behind the airplane and didn't bring the nose up high
enough and the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay, so it can be quick, I mean, so pilot
error can be what happened here that I'm not saying
it is, but it could be just massive pilot error.
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
It could be part of the equation. That's why I
emphasized is a couple things. Maybe's off center light on
the right side of the runaway, hard landing, the landing
gear dips, the brakes, the wing hits the snow that's
alongside the runway, or even the landing gears hits maybe
a snow or something on the side of the runway.
There's a lot of factors here.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you you've been a pilot for a while, I
asked the question, are you more or less optimistic about
airline safety today than you would have been in two thousand,
twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Well, I will tell you this that over my career
started in the late seventies, that the pilots today are
better trained and more discipline than they were back in
the eighties, just because of the safety standards. Whenever there's
an accident like this, everybody goes through. In fact, I
was in our flight training and Checking and Standards department
(12:11):
at one time. Everybody goes through use all these accidents,
looks at all the problems. Is as from a pilot standpoint,
what can we do to break the chain, and that's
the key words. What can we do in the case
of landings like this? Yet, when the wind you add
more speed up to a certain point. If you had
too much speed, you're going to go way down the runway.
Now you get another problem. You're going to go off
(12:32):
the end and the other ends. So they will learn
from this. The pilots, they are better those pilots in
that what we call an art day.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ask you, so you're retired, so I assume you spent
many years piloting aircraft as a pilot. What was the
scariest thing that ever happened when you were on a plane?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm a radio hosting, is what I do.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm on the radio right now talking to
you guys. Oh what's the scarious thing? There was nothing
that was so scary. I didn't think we could handle it.
I think the most interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
To tell you, A couple of million people just exhaled
a little bit across the country as you said that.
They're like, okay, I'm gonna be okay my next flight
keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I always tell this because one time, one night I
was out over the middle of the ocean and the
engine one of our engines quit and we handled it
all superbly and all that. I think My biggest bother
is I haven't eaten dinner yet. Now we have to
go back and land before eight dinner. So that's just
to be cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How far is this over the Atlantic when one engine
goes out? Like how far over the ocean were.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
You this particular case, we were coming out of Honolulu
on our way to the mainland, and we had not
quite got to what we call over we entered the
Oceanic we were in cruise flight. We're still talking to
the Honolulu air Traffic Control. It's basically we just turned
around about forty five minutes and landed back in Honolulu.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So what percentage of people notice if the plane turns
then goes back in the other direction? Like, was everybody nervous?
Do you tell them that one engine's gone out? Like
what does the pilot notice to the uh to the
I mean the crew may know, but like the actual passengers,
do you have an obligation to inform them those kind
of things?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Absolutely, First of all, we have to take care of
the whatever it is that's going on in emergency or situation. Uh,
talk to our flight attendants because they have to deal
with the passengers. And in this case, the flight intend's
already knew because whenever an engine quits, the electrical system
does a transfer and everything kind of flashes its lights.
And then after we communicate, I communicate as captain to
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the flight attendants, and we decide what we're going to do.
We make the announcement to the passengers that we're going back,
in this case to Hanlulu. But we've lost over the years.
It happens every single day. Something's going on in the
airline business. You just don't hear about it. People have
mechanical failures, hydraulic failures, and they always land in success.
(14:58):
Obviously this one.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
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We'll continue to take some of your calls. A lot
of great ones out there. But I want to tell
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Do it today. Clay has once again kicked the hornet's nest,
and this time around Sasquatch Nerds and near reached. Archaeological
experts are uniting to bring UH, to bring truth justice
(16:44):
in the American way to this program. Shortly, we're going
to take a bunch of their calls, and I would
just say, Clay, my funniest quick Sasquatch story is when
I was doing solo radio years ago, I mentioned that
I had seen a Bigfoot movie that was actually very
violent and terrifying, and one of the actors in the
(17:05):
movie was listening. Oh, I remember you talked about this.
He called in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he called in. He
was like the lead bad guy in the movie too,
and I was like, this is wild and we actually
ended up having to drink out in La. He's a
great guy. But it was kind of funny because I
got like all the backstory of the movie. The other
actor apparently lost his leg in a motorcycle accident, so
(17:26):
they had him finish the movie with a prosthetic. They
like took a break. It was a crazy story, but
very interesting. But yes, it was called Primal something or other,
and it is it is like Sasquatch that is really evil.
So I would not recommend that one for the Harry
and the Henderson for the kids. I'm telling it's like,
if you haven't seen it, a lot of fun, uh
(17:46):
throwing that one at And by the way, we got
some lives of other people. People watch the lives of
others Clay and they're all now saying great rec Buck.
When are Clay and Lara are going to give us
their review? And I say, I don't know. I'm waiting
for it. I watched White Lotus season three opener and
it was just, Okay, I'm just not that sold on it.
But you know what, I am sold on prize picks.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
We've got March Madness coming in fact, one month from today.
Unless I just screwed up the dates, I think I'm correct.
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Might be a senator, might be a president, might be
a governor, might be a discussion about whether the Egyptians
really built the pyramids or not. Buck, My confusion between
Yetti's Bigfoot's abominable Snowman's has provoked great disturbance in the
Clay and Buck Force. Don't leave Sasquatch off the list.
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Sasquatches as well. But I said, conspiracy theory. I just
don't buy that Egypt and the Egyptians, with their modern
technology at that time, built all the pyramids and there's
not something else going on that we don't know about.
But as I said, would likely be the case. Eric
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in Milwaukee has called in he is an ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. Explain Eric, how you become a ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. But this is just evidence of what we
talk about. Buck, Whatever topic we discuss, there is someone
who is an expert out there listening.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well, lots of school to put it briefly, all.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right, so how disgusted Eric can ask him a question
before you get the pyramid thing. I'm just curious. Have
you ever been at a at a tomb of one
of these pharaohs and had a little voice to back
your head like, I hope there's not some weird curse
here or does that never cross your mind?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
No, but it reminds me of that Time Life book
series commercial where the guy put took metal, made it
into the shape of an ancient symbol and pointed it
at stone ends and then he felt the energy go
to his body.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh okay, cool, all right, Clay, you had a real
question about the pyramids.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Now that's a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, all right, So we can you hear someone like
me say, I just don't buy it. I don't buy
that they had the technology. I think something else is
going on here. First of all, you probably hear it
a decent amount because there's lots of people who are
morons like me. But your reaction is what and you
feel that we should know what so that we are
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better informed.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Well, so, as far as the archaeological evidence around the
Great Pyramids. They've excavated the remains of earthen ramps. The
quarries are nearby, some of which with partially quarried stone
still in place, as well as they've excavated the breweries,
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the bakeries for the workers, the barracks where they lived.
They've also recently, just in the last few years, found
some papyri. The actually the most ancient inscribed pyrie in
existence near the Red Seed are bureaucratic documents describing a
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lot of background on worker groups. You know, it wasn't
the slaves that built the Great Pyramids. It was people
from various villages around ancient Egypt that worked as corve
labor and came during opportune times of the year where
they didn't have response agricultural responsibilities and came and worked
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and sometimes even left uh graffiti how they were proud
that they had built this particular part of the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So you have zero doubt of that the Egyptians built
the pyramid using their modern technology at the time. Ramps
circling the pyramids. Is there anything you believe that would
be considered controversial in the Eastern European SR in the
archaeological universe in which you are an expert. In other words,
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Buck asked me, did I believe in a conspiration? And
I'm just I'm skeptical about the pyramids. Is there anything
that you believe that would be considered controversial in your
chosen field? Or are there any conspiracies and other fields
that you believe in, or as a man of rigor
science and archaeology, do you believe in nothing like that.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Usually the controversies are surrounding like there's a very ancient
temple that's been excavated in Turkey. I'm going to probably
mess up the name, but it's a gobleiky tet bee.
And the debates are when it predates, like the invention
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of writing, and there's only like symbols and various stone
shapes and things to deal with before we're writing. That's
when you get into a lot of the more like
controversial theories and people really debating about the meaning of
certain time amples are and things like that, and that
that comes that comes out in articles and in conferences
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where people yell at each other and things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So do you have any conspiracy theories? Is there anything
you believe in that you think is controversial? In the
larger world like Blackness Monster, Bigfoot, any of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Oh well, I've always found the Lockness Monster kind of intriguing.
I don't. I've been to Scotland, but not that far
north that I've seen the locks, so I can't say
for myself. But I did have that Time Life book
series as a kid, Mysteries of the.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Unknown, So there we go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I had that curse. What about curses?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Do you buy into the concept of Buck asked you,
But like, do you think there's anything to the idea
of a curse in any way?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Tout? Wasn't there a King tut curse when they went
into his tomb? And then people?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And was it Howard Carter who found it? Like there's
all these different things. Do you buy into the concept
of a curve?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Well, I know.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
They they wrote them down, yes, As to whether they
were effective or not to name then you have to
then that gets into believing whether the ancient Egyptian gods
will actually had power and existed. So no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
All righty, sir, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
Appreciate you joining us. And it's so fun that we
have so many brilliant and varied experts in this audience. Clay,
I just want to point something out because I love
when I get to just, you know, dogpile on you
with the audience if you get something wrong. But I'm
also here. I'm a man of honor, and I'm here
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to tell you that you were correct that the Himalayan
creature is referred to as as Yeti and Sasquatch. This
according to Google AI. So argue with Google AI. The
abominable snowman. Okay, well, abominable snowman is here, Yeti is Himalayan.
It's not all the same though, as the point, you
were right about that, That's what I thought I'm getting
(25:59):
with MLA is abominable snowman. I cannot believe we're talking
about this, guys. I promise tomorrow I'll get back to
saving the republic. Abominable snowman is for here, Bigfoot obviously here,
Sasquatch here. There's apparently in Florida folklore. As a Floridian,
I like to learn about my state something called the
skunk Ape. According to AI, I'd never even heard of
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this before. There's something I can't even read it on
the air because it's spelled fo u k e. Monster
in West Virginia. You ever heard of this? I don't
know how even say that. I don't want to try
to say it on the radio. If it sounds it's
like something I shouldn't say. And then anyway, there's lots
of variations of this, but cultures all over the world
have names for this version of what we would.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Call what's a good question that it's like just a
fun topic if you need a dinner table conversation. What
is the last truly shocking discovery that has occurred in
America or in the world that Epstein's suicide?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't know, Well, how shocking? How shocking do we
have to go? Yeah? I mean like something that was
earth shattering?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You know?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
For instance, there's this report that there is a three
percent chance, sorry everybody, that an asteroid's gonna hit Earth
in twenty thirty two, Right, I would say that an
asteroid striking Earth. Now you can say, COVID whatever, what
is the last truly earth shattering discovery?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
In some way?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
In like I can't think of anything in my mind.
Like obviously, like we all have phones and we can
walk around that. In nineteen sixty if you'd been like Hey,
you're gonna have the entire world's history in the palm
of your hand, and you'll be able to access any
information like that would have been fairly remarkable. But I
think people could have predicted it right. It wasn't crazy,
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like what is the last thing that happened where you
were like, Holy crap, I can't believe we now know
this and we didn't know this before.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I I'm probably stepping into it here because I'm not
as up on this as I should be. But I
do think that there's you know, you know who's talking
about it recently was Mel Gibson actually, and I was
listening to Mel Gibson to discuss it the shroud of
Turin and how it is from with radiocarbon dating, it
is from the period of Jesus, and that is the
(28:29):
newest report. I'm not an expert, you know, I'm not
I when I say expert, like, I'm not even up
on all the details. But I do know that there
was a little bit of a whoa, this is actually
from the right time period for this who have been
a real artifact.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I think that that whole story is I thought it
was cool I read all about that. I mean, I
have a lot of interest in ancient history. For instance,
they just found the oldest structure in London that the
Romans built, right underneath the thirty story building that they're building.
I just came back from Israel, where you know, anybody
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who actually travels to the Middle East or Europe or
certainly Italy or you recognize how fragile and young our
country is. But when you're looking at walls that are
thousands and thousands of years old that were built in
biblical times and pre biblical recorded history, I just I'm
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trying to think, like, what was the last earth shattering
discovery that was made that changed the way that people
conceive of the world around them and have You can
tweet me because there may be some great answers. I
can't think of any, right, I mean, there are things
that we do that are remarkable, like again the phone
and the information all being in the palm of our hands.
(29:47):
But I mean something we discovered and people were in display.
For instance, you know back in the fifteen hundreds, it
would have been kind of remarkable when people started saying, hey,
you know, there's a whole new world if you just
get on the ocean and you keep going far enough,
you come to a new land and no one has
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ever really been there before.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And it's a truly new world. What is the last
thing that was at an earth shattering discovery? I can't
even think of one. Well, we'll put it out there
for everybody. You can let Clay handle some of these
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Speaker 2 (31:46):
Buck ducking out to close the show, I will be
here solo with you, guys. We'll be together down in Miami,
presuming I can take off. We got weather snow coming
into the Nashville area, so we'll see whether or not
I can get out.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
A lot of you weighing in.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I've got a thesis for you, and you know when
I give a thesis sometimes it's dangerous. The most important
discovery maybe in the history of modern archaeology in terms
of being able to understand the past Hamarabi's Code nineteen
(32:25):
oh one, that basically unlocked all of the hieroglyphics so
we could actually understand what was being said that in
all of the Egyptian writings.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They didn't find it until nineteen oh one. You guys
have deluged me with the last great truly transformative discovery
that changed the way the world.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Was looked at. Electricity greatest achievement in terms of changing
the world, followed by the lunar landing nineteen sixty nine.
I think that's a decent argument, landing on the moon
nineteen sixty nine, But that would tie in with my
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thesis that there has been no great, truly earth shattering
change in my lifetime. This is kind of the thought
that I had as I was walking around in all
the cathedrals in Italy and looking at how majestic and
incredible all of those edifices were. That things were built,
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and hundreds of years later, thousands of years later, sometimes
we still gaze upon them with awe. Is there anything
in my lifetime that will have that sort of relevancy
and length of recognition and importance. I think that's a
(33:54):
I think that's a really interesting question. The nuke, several
of you reaching out and saying, hey, the ability to
create a nuclear bomb. Certainly, discovery of the dinosaurs, which
frankly relatively recent if you've got kids or grandkids. The
degree to which the world changed with the discovery of dinosaurs,
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I think it's really kind of kind of amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Flight.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Certainly again relatively recent vintage Wilbur and Orville Wright Kitty Hawk,
North Carolina. Wasn't that long ago that the idea of
an airplane would have seemed crazy. A lot of people
weighing in. I love all that feedback. You can find
me on Twitter at Clay Travis, DNA, VIP, Laurel Watson,
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and Crick. Very good, very good. Take there.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The Rose.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Now, Greg, don't ask me questions while I'm on air.
You're getting me crossed over. Now, I think you're right.
Was it the Hamarabi Code? I think the Hamarabi code
was the written the written law, right. I think I'm
talking about the Rosetta Stone that was actually so when
was the Rosetta Stone? So you got me all crossed up.
(35:19):
A lot of you went a weigh in, Mark in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
What you got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Mark by Clay, I'm gonna have to probably try to
call in tomorrow. I'm an aerospace engineer. I worked personally
on the CRJ program, and I've got some thoughts about
the CRJ nine hundred where where it lists in on
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the size of that aircraft, that airframe. I'll give you
a call tomorrow because there's too much technical stuff about
what might have gone wrong with this landing. It's probably
not pilot error. It's probably wind shear that ended up
making that landing gear go through the go through the wings.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
There is no way in the world.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That any airframe manufacturer designed a wing to break off
wings are trying to end up taking a huge amount
of overload.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Thank you for the call. By the way, so the
BBC is wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because Buck was reading directly from the BBC about wind
shear and the winds designed to pull up.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I think that's the.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
First time a caller has ever called us and said, hey, guys,
I'm about to call you tomorrow. He teased his own call.
It was thank you for catching it. Mark the Rosetta
stone I was talking about. Hamarabi's code was the first
wall written apology.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
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