April 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a special anniversary, marking 11 years since Buck Sexton first filled in for Rush Limbaugh. Buck shares a personal story about the challenges he faced that day, including losing his voice and receiving a last-minute steroid shot to perform on air. This nostalgic segment highlights the significance of that moment in Buck's career and the support from his family. His mom was his hero that fateful day and enlisted in the help of a special doctor that works with Opera singers.
The conversation then shifts to a humorous and engaging debate about height preferences in dating. The hosts discuss a study showing that women on dating apps overwhelmingly prefer men over six feet tall, sparking reactions from listeners and friends of the show. Jesse Kelly, Karol Markowitz, and Lisa Boothe weigh in with their perspectives, ranging from the importance of height to the impact of online dating on relationship expectations. This lively discussion underscores the broader societal issues of dating standards and superficial judgments.
Listeners also contribute their thoughts through calls and talkbacks, adding diverse viewpoints to the conversation. A former Navy SEAL shares his experience as a shorter man, 5'3, emphasizing the advantages of height in his profession. Another listener humorously suggests that playing the guitar can compensate for lack of height in attracting women.
The hour concludes with a reflection on the impact of social media on dating and relationships. The hosts advocate for more genuine, in-person interactions and caution against the unrealistic standards set by online platforms. This segment ties back to the broader theme of authenticity and the importance of real-life connections.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, third hour of play in Buck kicks off now,
and it's something of a special anniversary. In fact, one
of our listeners, Steve from Pittsburgh, who listens on WHLO
and ACRON, he sent in this talkback as a helpful
reminder for what the anniversary is play d D.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey guys, this is Steve from Pittsburgh, PA listening to the
WHLO am six forty a ACROD. Got a question for you, Buck.
It was eleven years ago today that you made your
debut behind the Golden EIB microphote. Would like it was
good Friday too. Would like to know your thoughts, recollections
(00:42):
from that day. How did it come about? Anything like
that you might want to share to us with us
be really interesting. Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
First of all, play incredible memory from this guy because
he is not a cousin or an uncle of mine.
I did not put him up to this. I know
that's a pretty wild recall this guy. It's ridiculous love
affair here that he would remember. But credit to him
eleven years. Eleven years, not even like it was ten
(01:10):
or five. It's like, you know, eleven's kind of a
no offense to anybody celebrating their eleventh wedding anniversary. But
usually it's not like, oh my goodness, but yes, this
is impressive, so Steve, I have Yes, it was eleven
years ago. I sat at the Golden EIB Mike, a
young buck, thirty thirty. Gosh, hold am I thirty two
years old? I was either the youngest or maybe Hannity.
(01:32):
I don't know, guys, we got to check on this
was Hannity the youngest to ever stated the EIB Mike
at that time? Or is it me? I think we're
within a year of each other. So I don't know
who gets the who gets the youngest title? But you
want to know what it was like, I'll tell you
about what it was like. First of all, the team
pulled this when they saw this talk back, they pulled
this up. This was I don't even know what this
is going to sound like, but well, let's just say
(01:55):
here's what it was like years ago. Cut twenty five.
Filling in for Rush and now filling in for Rush
Limbaugh he's a national security editor for the Blaze of Farmers,
CIA officer who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's
also worked as a counter terrorism specialist for the New
(02:16):
York Police Department. Ladies and gentlemen, here's Buck Sexton. Buck
Sexton here filling in for Rush Limbaugh today. I'm also
just to bring you up to speed. The national security
editor of the Blaze dot com and fighting a tiny
bit of a cold, but couldn't pass up this opportunity
to have a chance to speak to all of you.
(02:37):
You sound so young, You sell so incredibly young.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I was very young, but beyond that, So this is
you asked what it was like? Fast forward, I get
Russia's team reached out. I had filled in for Glenn Clay.
I had filled in for hold on one joke, before
you tell your serious story, producer Greg says a cold.
He sounds like he's going through puberty. Uh so, wow,
prouser Greg at two Greg, right right after the Rangers game. Greg,
(03:06):
really really? Oh? I see right now, you can tell
your serious story. But I wanted to know Greg deliver
a shot across the bow to start. So well, let
me let me just say this, this is all, this
is all true. And if my mom's listening, she's gonna
have flashbacks because I had been at the Blaze only
for a couple of years at this point, I'd filled
in for Glenn, and then I filled in for Sean
(03:27):
Hannity and then Rush's team. Sure enough, they said we're
gonna let you sit at the at the Golden Mic,
and I was, you know, this was a huge break
in my career. I was incredibly excited, and I came
down the week of it. I came down with a cold,
and I remember thinking, Okay, this will be fine because
all the cold will be bad on the Monday Tuesday,
(03:47):
but by Friday, I should be okay. What I didn't
realize is that sometimes if you're going to get leerryingitis,
it happens toward the end of the cold, or rather,
you know, mid to end of the cold, because your
vocal cords get so inflamed and dried out from the
virus clay. The day before I had that show, I
had the only time in my life this has happened
to me. I could not speak at all. I had
(04:08):
no voice whatsoever. And that sounds obviously like I'm gonna
wimp out of this, so I can't. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. So I'm scrambling, I'm drinking tea,
I'm doing all this sort of stuff and God bless her.
I call my mom, I say, mom, I got a
fill in for Rush tomorrow. Oh, by the way, I
was like, ah that I mean I had nothing, no voice, nothing.
(04:30):
And she finds she's just scrambling. We're doing online research.
She finds somebody who is the person the doctor in
New York who opera singers go to when it's opera
night and they have Oh and there's something that she
can do. And so my mom and there's all my mom,
I gotta say. My mom calls this doctor who says,
I'm not open tomorrow. I'm going to the Hamptons. My
(04:52):
mom says, my son is filling in for the biggest
radio show in the country. I guess in the world.
I don't know if there's a bigger show in China, but
you know, the biggest show in the world. Can you
please just help him, like whatever you can do. She goes,
all right, the day of I go in there, and
I go in there ten o'clock in the morning. She
looks at my vocal cords its doctor Coravin. She looks
at my vocal cords, Clay, and she goes, you you
(05:15):
are you are cooked. There's no chance you're going to
be able to do this show. The only option is
I'm going to give you a steroid shot. The steroid
shot will bring the inflammation of your vocal cords down,
but it will only last three to four hours. Oh wow.
So it's like ten thirty in the morning the day
of the show. And you know, she didn't she didn't
(05:35):
know she's doing the show. She didn't know what time.
I'm like, that actually will work. Can you give me
the shot late? How can we do it? And so
that I started out that show, I said I had
a bit of a cold. I was shaking that my
voice the whole time was going to just disappear and
I would sound like a huge, a huge wimp. And
at the by the end of the show, by the way,
the voice was pretty much gone. And that night I
couldn't speak again. So that was the whole if you're wondering,
(05:58):
And for days at the anxiet level, for days afterwards,
I was just like shaking it home, like, oh my god,
I was so scared my voice was gonna go. But
it went well enough they had me back to you.
Here we are, okay, So I want to give So
first of all, that's great. The doctor was there and
she was willing to do this. Did your mom think
on the spot about the idea of opera singers and
(06:20):
how they were treated? I actually am curious house. I mean,
that's a brilliant idea that she would have had, because
we make a living based on being able to talk.
But I wouldn't even have thought. I mean, first of all,
and you're in New York City, I know, in Nashville,
I would have been totally in trouble because I can't
imagine the doctor. My mom loves, you know, my mom
was she was in the near she was in La
(06:42):
at the American Ballet Theater, and so she loves classical
music and she has friends in the opera in New
York and everything, so she knows that world a bit.
But it was totally her idea, and I wasn't even
thought about it. That's Mom saving the day. Totally saved
the day, and the doctor. The doctor looked at me,
she was like, she's like, your vote you have. She
actually said, if I tried to push through without the steroid,
(07:03):
you can do permanent dammage because you can create scar
tissue because of all the inflammation in your vocal box.
So this was just at all all the stars alive.
But people ask, yeah, my eleven day. I have never
been nervous doing anything in media in my life before
or since. That was the only time, and by far
the biggest time I was ever nervous. Yes, being behind
(07:26):
the Golden EIB Mike when you rush was having his
six hundred and eighty stations or whatever it was. But Clay,
the whole time I'd come back from break, I was like,
I can still talk. Okay, we got one more segment.
We got one more segment. I told the team. Ali, dude, Ali,
you remember you were there, so was Mike. Yes, running
(07:46):
behind the mic. I do remember, and I remember meeting
you that day back. I would have had no idea
you were cool as a cucumber. I was shaking like
a leaf. I was shaking like a leaf. So yeah,
that was I mean, Clay, you're the same. I can
tell you the same thing. Even when the first time
I did tea, Like the first time I was on
cable news, I was like, I was a CIA baby,
cool as a cucumber, Like this isn't gonna phase me.
This was when I was like, oh my god, oh
(08:08):
my god, oh my God, So I remember it trusts
me eleven years ago in Mom, you are the greatest mom,
but also a genius on the spot. I mean, that's
what I'm saying. Like even to think, okay, who would
be able to treat this, who would be able to
figure out a way to make this happen? Because this
is always an issue for singers, right, I know. I
(08:29):
think I came on the air and talked about the
fact that I went to watch Adele and some of
you were like, what it was an incredible right, she
was amazing in Caesar's but then she's had to cancel
a ton of her performances because of vocal fold related issues.
And obviously, when you are an incredible talent like that,
something as simple as a cold can throw everything into
(08:53):
an uproar. So I wouldn't have even thought about that.
But credit to your mom, because you probably got how
many doctors like that are there in the nation? Ten
very high that specialized that specialized in this. Because most
people would just say, look, you got a cold, like
go home from work, like you know it, just don't
talk as much as you entirely will Fine, It's it's
not a major medical issue unless you make a living
(09:16):
and have a performance of some kind with your voice.
But yeah, I like to tell people on such a
vocal athlete that I had to take steroids performance enhancing
drugs for my So how long did it take for
your voice to get back to normal after you took
the steroid shot to be able to do the show
on that first three days? Two to three days still
of just like being shut down? Oh yeah, horse, you know,
sounded totally weird, but yeah, So when I met Ali
(09:39):
and the team and Mike and Mike, Mike Mamone was there.
Mike knew I was nervous as hell. But anyway, when
I was there, they were there, and that was how
it all went. Can I also do one more throwback?
So that was the eleven year annivers that we had.
The one thing I think, Clay, you'll appreciate this because
in the absolute you and I got to know each
other the first time because of COVID, Because I was like,
who's the sports guy who actually understand that masks are
(10:01):
crazy and that we shouldn't shut all this stuff down.
Prusa Mark who went to the Rangers game who knows sports,
was like, you got to know this, Clay, guy, he's
saying what you're saying. May April, May twenty twenty. We're
talking about very very early on. But I was so
frustrated about what was going on with the social media
platforms at that time that I just straight up I
(10:21):
went on a rant on Twitter about how it's never
going to change. We need a billionaire who's conservative to
step up and buy one of these things, because otherwise
we're just toast and rush. This is June sixteen, twenty twenty.
Who read the whole thing on air? Listen to this
play twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Many of you might remember the former guest host on
this program, Buck Sextead of the CIA. Buck now tweets
a lot. Does he have his own show now? Or
yeah he does? Wait wait, Buck has been on a
tweet storm and had to put it in one of
those one of those thread apps because there's so many
(10:58):
tweets and he's ticked off at how conservative everything has
just given up. Has just seated the country seated, Hollywood, seeded, music, seated,
television seated, the media seated.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Everything. Doesn't understand it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
If one of the conservative billionaires out there has any
stomach for saving their country from this mob, they should
buy and flip a major media platform or fund a
new one and make it an unsinkable aircraft carrier of
true free speech.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Clay Elon bought Twitter four years later, and I think
changed the trajectory of the twenty twenty four election and
online discourse as it exists. And you know, so it
was a long time coming. In Russ saw too that
with the Remember that was the height of the censorship
on social media. Yeah, and we were just getting pummeled,
shut down, locked, And isn't amazing now we're talking about
(11:59):
COVID reps and we actually have a free we have
and we have truth and we have a rumble on
these other platforms. But that was like the darkest June
of twenty twenty, the darkest days of social media censorship
in a lot of ways. Oh, I totally remember. I
mean that was when I was trying to argue for
schools reopening and to play sports. And you would have
(12:21):
thought that I was the craziest person on the planet, right,
I mean, just the idea that And I'm thankful that
I lived in Tennessee and people like Ron DeSantis and
a lot of you who live in Red States. Your
school's opened back up. My kids went back to school
in August of twenty twenty, but I knew if we
could play sports, it would be a huge signpost for
returning to cultural normalcy. And at that point in time,
(12:44):
it's not just that Elon. You're right, it's not just
that Elon bought Twitter. It's that suddenly he's awoken Mark Zuckerberg,
Jeff Bezos, other people who weren't as brave to lead
the charge, but they've at least been willing to follow
the charge up the hill to try to put back
in place some measure of free speech principles in the
(13:05):
online marketplace. Right did Elon flipping X as I thought
at the time, right when he was doing it, and
you were the first one who ever told me that
was even under consideration. I remember you said, Hey, I
think Elon because of the Babylon b account freeze, and
because he knows Seth Dillon, Seth Dylon, Right, yeah, Seth Dylan,
you know that this may happen, which at the time
(13:26):
seemed like, oh my gosh, like that's sure enough. Forty
three billion dollars later, Elon flips it around. But that
also puts downstream pressure on the other social media platforms
not to be fair and I know they're not, and
Facebook is still a wasteland in a lot of ways
for free speech, but to be less oppressive because they
don't want to lose all market share to for half
(13:47):
the country. So and then that was an enormously important
shift that we should never lose sight of because Clay,
I mean, we were talking about this stuff, and you
and I were discussing masked in twenty twenty. It it
was like it was like the end times for free speech.
It really was. Couldn't say stuff about the election in
that year. By the end of the year, Trump got
kicked off of social media, couldn't say masks don't work.
(14:10):
These these websites attacking us. And you know, I'm sure
you had this too. I had the New York Times
attack me. I had what's that fact what's the fact
check dot org? With all these organs, some of those
even still. Yes, but yes, there was an entire cottage
industry of places designed to attack anyone who had the
goal to speak out in any way against COVID lockdowns
or COVID shots or asking. They came after you and
(14:33):
the people who were attacked, And I know a lot
of you and your personal capacities felt the same thing.
We felt. What we dealt with it publicly and in
a professional setting on radio and on TV. But we
were right about everything. So I feel good about that.
Remember that, don't ever let that go. When it really counted.
Where were you? And I can look at Clay and
Clay can look at me. We know where we were
on the COVID stuff, and I know a lot of you.
(14:54):
It's the same deal. And that's why I think the
accountability still matters. Look, I'm going to the gun range
tomorrow borrow. I'm going to be training with my brother,
and we've got a whole slew of firearms that we're
going to be putting ourselves through our paces with. And
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Speaker 5 (16:14):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay
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Speaker 1 (16:28):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, Ryan and
Montana says, you know what, Clay, You're a moron. There
are probably lots of people in Nashville that do this
for singers. Yeah, you're probably right, GG. Let's listen to him.
Maybe he's not ready yet. Uh, but we'll play that
for you when we come back again. That's a new
(16:50):
talkback GG from Ryan in Montana. But when we come
back here, Buck, let's dive into some of the reactions.
Speaking of talkback, we have been deluged since yesterday's discussion.
Buck found a study that women basically on online dating
(17:11):
sites are ignoring men who are five eight or shorter,
just completely unwilling to date them. Meanwhile flooding men who
are six foot and taller. And we've got all sorts
of reactions from the Clay and Buck podcast network, from
lots of you, and they are fabulous, and I think
that you guys are going to enjoy many of those.
(17:31):
As we finish the last half hour of the week,
we'll have some fun with you rolling in. Buck pointed
out earlier in the program that we were deluged. Here
is GG. It's ready. Let's play this right now.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Ryan and Montana Here, Clay, you live in Nashville, Tennessee,
the country music capital of the world. I'm willing to
bet there's a few vocal doctors there.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You're right, I'm a moron. Probably of the cities that
are out there, Nashville is at the top of the
list on vokes doctors. Uh, but hopefully I will not
need one in the meantime. You know what I do
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welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were talking about
this story that got a lot of attentions really more
(19:03):
of just a thesis. And I have to give credit
to my friend Jedediah Bila, who's now relaunched her podcast
you know her from the View and from Fox News
for many years. She shared some data. It's not even
new data, but it's come up in conversation with people
that I know lately that women are let's just say it, okay,
(19:24):
when we say women, we're speaking in generalities here, but
something like eighty five percent of women won't date a guy,
say they don't want a data guy. Maybe it's a
better way of putting it. Who's under six feet tall?
And fourteen percent of guys are actually over six feet tall.
So there's a little bit of a math mismatch here. Now,
a lot of you weigh in, we'll get to some
of that, a lot of talkbacks, a lot of emails,
(19:44):
including friends of the show who have their own programs.
One of them might be confused from a distance clay
with Paul Bunyan, because he is so enormous that he
hits his head on the bottom of pretty much everyone's
ceiling on a regular basis. Well, let me just say here,
cut you off a little bit. Paul Bunyan is like
(20:05):
a rugged, masculine, brawny man, gangly, not particularly strong, more
like jolly green giant, but without the muscles, is the
way that I would describe Jesse Kelly. Wow. Uh, well,
I'm just gonna put it out there. Jesse taking some
shots at the shorter brethren among us out there. Here's
(20:27):
what he said, play it. What's up?
Speaker 7 (20:28):
It's me Jesse Kelly and Clay and Buck asked me
if I would weigh in on the controversy that apparently
has popped up over tall guys versus short guys. What
women prefer, what they should prefer? So I just I
wanted to, first of all, clear something up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Life is all about balance, right, Everything's about striking a balance.
The right amount of time at work, the right amount
of time at home, the right everything's about a balance, right. Well,
everything in our life works this way. If you're a
new dude who's under six feet tall, you're most likely
somebody who peaked in grade school or high school. That's
(21:08):
actually when you stop growing as well. And during that time,
usually it's the short guys. He gets the leg hair first,
he drives a nicer car than everyone else, and for
a few years he gets to be the top dog.
Then he stops growing at five six like most children do.
And then the girl that used to date you now
(21:32):
looks over at me, towering above you, and she automatically
knows it's not just that I'm taller, It's that I'm
a superior being in virtually every way. It's not about
your income, or your hair or anything else. Height is
all that matters, Absolutely, all that matters. And the women
(21:55):
listening know that is true. You short guys, don't get
down on yourself at all. Listen, there's someone out there
for everybody. There are women who will lower their standards
for you, and you should thank God for them.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
All right. Just you know, Jen Jesse is like six',
nine so he thinks everybody is. Short, yeah he is
leaning into this Heidism clay in a big. WAY i
DID i did hear a mention of hair though There,
well he doesn't have any, hair but he's fortunate because
he's so. Tall most people can't. Tell now we have other.
(22:32):
Reactions Carol, markowitz who is a mother of three and
quite quite has a great show on the Klan buck podcast,
network which you should all check, out and normally With
Mary Catherine. Ham she's one of our wonderful podcast. HOSTS
i think That Carol markowitz has one of the best
voices out there for a women's. Host like when you
(22:55):
hear her, voice it sounds like something that would be
a audio book voice, voice not for like a professional voice.
Actor so here Is Carol markowitz reacting to the controversy
over women not willing to date short.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Men, hey Clan, buck It's Carol markowitz from The Carol
Markowitz show end normally on the Clan buck Podcast. NETWORK
i fully agree With buck that dating apps have destroyed
dating life by making people have these unrealistic. Expectations people
have really lost all perspective about what makes attraction and
(23:33):
what they actually want in a. Partner online dating makes
you feel like you can punch in the perfect dimensions
for your possible boyfriend or girlfriend and filter by those,
Parameters so why shouldn't? You BUT i think that for
men there's always another woman on the next, swipe so
why settle for this? One and for women they rather
(23:57):
wait than get someone they don't. Consider it's Bad my
message every, day all the. Time get off the, apps
go have the messy in person. Interactions that will show
you who people really. Are let it be, awkward let
it be, weird but at least it's. Real go have
(24:19):
a real, Life go meet people in real. Life you'll
be so much better.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
OFF i think that's. Perfect by the, WAY i totally
agree with. HER i rest my. CASE i think she nailed,
it AND i didn't even hear that until we just
played it on the. Air. NOW i will also submit
That carol loved the, interaction probably not surprisingly based on
the comment that she just gave there of The Atlanta
braves sideline reporter and the girl that he was interviewing
(24:44):
during the course of that game that turned into a
huge story here this week That buck was in disbelief
could have ever been controversial in any, way AND i
think it is kind of a refreshing. Take, hey meet
some somebody in, person have an actual face to face
interaction with, him and this IS i. Believe we've also
(25:06):
Got Lisa, booth also a part of The clay And
buck podcast, network continuing the breakdown we just heard From
Carol markowitz and From Jesse. Kelly here's What lisa had to.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Say hey, Guys lisa with the truth With Lisa, Booth
so here's the. Truth does height? Matter that is the. Question,
well the honest answer, is of course it. DOES i, mean,
look every woman wants to feel smaller than her boyfriend
or her significant. Other we want to feel protected in his,
(25:36):
arms so of course it. Matters of course we would
rather have someone who's. Taller, however, LOOK i think everyone's
dated a guy who is maybe around the same. Height so,
YEAH i, mean, look you would date someone if you
really fell in love with someone who is a little bit.
Shorter it's not the end of the, world but it.
MATTERS i don't THINK i would go shorter, though because you,
(25:59):
know this isn't, limbo you, know so, yeah so it does,
Matter BUT i think a woman would make an exception
for a really incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Man, Okay, CLAY i love. That we we basically and
we did not coordinate. This we just asked those friends
of the, show and you, know they had they had
seen on social and everything this back and. Forth what's
your take on? It we really Have Jesse, kelly, who
let's just be, Honest Jesse kelly is a height. Supremacist, okay,
yes he is a height. Supremacist it's all about height with.
Him everything else is, secondary and he just looks down
(26:31):
his nose from way up there in the clouds of
being six nine or six ten or, whatever and all
of us little we're Like lilliputians and He's gulliver and
that's how the world.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay carol takes more the, uh you, know the we
shouldn't be superficial and get off the apps and you're not,
building you're you're not building like a car where you
get to pick the heated seats or. Whatever you're you're
meeting a. Person AND i Think lisa is a little
bit in between of, look it's not, everything but it does,
matter and women should look into. This SO i feel
like we've GOT i WON'T i want to open up
lines and talkbacks and everything so people can tell us
(27:03):
who's position on this they find most. Amenable do you
want to do the talkback From? Russell? YEAH i also
Think carol's position is a really interesting one BECAUSE i
don't only think women hold out and are waiting for
the right. GUY i actually think sometimes they hold out
and then they look back and they're, like you know,
(27:24):
WHAT i should have gone With GUY a Or GUY
c or GUY f THAT i, dated and then they're
also measuring not only their ideal, standard but also some
other guy who went on and got married to somebody,
else and they're thinking to themselves if they stay. Single,
man DID i blow it in that relationship? Too? RIGHT i?
(27:46):
Lie you. Know i'm happy that it worked out for
me the WAY i did BECAUSE i couldn't love my
wife more THAN i, do AND i think she's my
soulmate and we have the cutest baby and everything's. Perfect
but every lady when buck was, single who walked away
from The, buckster big, mistake just Like julia robertson, women big. Mistake? Huge,
WELL i, think, YEAH i think that if you walk
away from a relationship and then the guy ends up
(28:07):
getting married and he's got a good family and everything,
ELSE i think a lot of those women look. Back
AND i do think the one thing that you nailed
IS i do Think instagram has changed it because in years,
past you dated a, guy but people had to come
meet him right like. You in order to know who
your friend was, dating you went to, lunch or you
went to, dinner or you went to a party or
(28:29):
a social event with, them and you judge them based
on face to. Face there wasn't as much of an
Immediate oh what does it look like On? Instagram what
does it look like on social? Media AND i think
that many women have fallen victim to what is the
social media reaction going to be to my new? Guy
and if it's, Not, hey this is the perfect, guy
(28:51):
then they're. Unhappy and look the numbers look like that were.
True lots of women out there are now never getting. Married,
yes well that's this is why it's actually An this
is not a minor. Thing this is a big, issue you, Know,
Elon and there's a whole other conversation here About elon's
approach to, This BUT i have tremendous respect For. Elon it's.
Fantastic says we're not having enough, babies which is true
(29:11):
if you look the chart on us babies over, time it's,
just you, know slowly but surely going. Down marriage formation
has also been going, down not, catastrophically and it's actually
had a bit of a rebound in some demographics, recently
but marriage formation is going. Down And, CLAY i think,
that you, know we are the first generation, now we're
(29:31):
seeing the first generation now that has had this kind
of social media and online PRESENCE i, mean here's a
perfect example of. This how many women out there when
they post a photo with their not let's, say not their,
husband but you, know their boyfriend or fiance if they're
the same height or he's a little, smaller would feel
weird about. It, YEAH i THINK i think the number
(29:52):
is very, high WHICH i think is a little silly
in my. Opinion but you know, WHAT i want to
open this up because a. Feeling we'll get some, people
because people have very strong feelings on, this BUT i
WANT i want to hear from all of, you and
ALSO i want you to have the energy to go
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(32:14):
as for our Friend Jesse, kelly he's on hundreds of.
Stations his show is doing. Fantastically he's lighting his cigars
one thousand dollars. Bills so you don't need to puff
up his head all six foot eight up there in
the sky anymore than he already already. Is his confidence
doesn't need any, BOOSTS i can assure. You Caller jared
is a Former navy seal and he's five to. Three what's, Up.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Jared, Yes i'm so honored to finally get through to you.
Guys BUT i haven't Ever i'll be, Honest i've never
tried to get through you.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
Guys but it was With Rush limbaugh and with you
the subject going.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
On i'm, like oh, Lord i've got to call.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
In i've got to try it one more. Time And
i'm so honored to actually be. On thank you very.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Much so.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
The navy, program they Want navy sills to be.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Short the shorter you, are and.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
Stealthier you'll be and less, hidden so.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
It doesn't.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Matter they'll take tall. Men but as a five ft
three X navy.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Very.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Proud, okay, So, jared you're a badass and we love
you and we appreciate you serving our. Country let me ask, you,
though tallest woman you've ever? Dated five? Six okay you?
No but also you know, you're you, know A navy.
Guy you show them the anchor tattoo and your. Bicep
(33:48):
you're a. Seal you, know you're a little bit of
a special. Case i'm just going to say, this, like you,
Know i'm sure you did fine with the.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
Ladies, well you, know the point of the matter, is,
hey and my world the shorter you, are and in this,
world the batter.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
You, are the more stealth you.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
Are but you know what, AGAIN i go back to
when you get in the real.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
World, yeah it's kind of hard to get a woman
when you're my.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Size thank you for the. Call appreciate you calling, In,
jared and thank you for your. Service we got to
talk back here From russell and Salt lake see see
he listens ON knrs where we are consistently number. One thank,
You Salt Lake. City we love. You play it, guys,
guys guys got it all. Wrong it's not the, height
it's the guitar in the guy's. HANDS i think it's
(34:35):
the flute, personally BUT i could weave in everybody's. Hands
what percentage of musicians in rock bands got into music
solely for? GIRLS i MEAN i Think Dave navarro of
what is he nine inch nails or, no not nine?
Inches Well Red Hot Chili, peppers, right, Yeah Red Hot Chili. Pepper,
SORRY i think he's like five to two or five,
(34:56):
three like some of these guys that are on. Stage,
oh you never see anyone really sort of. Standing some
of these big ROCK i, mean Wasn't prince was like four.
Eleven he was. Tiny, yeah actually a pretty good basketball player.
Too remember This chappelle skit like that was based in.
Reality prince was a high school basketball pretty good player
in The minneapolis. Area josh In california wants to weigh And,
(35:17):
josh what do you have for?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Us?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
YEAH i was just calling because while women can hold
menus standards of, height why can't we hold them to
the standards of you, know weight and taking care of?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Themselves can they cook a? MEAL i, mean you, know
it's got to be both. Ways when it comes to
a successful.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Marriage it's not always if the guy's just, tall but
if the woman's just kind of you, Know i'm Pretty.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And, Josh josh your ap preacher the Choir, here a
man who says that he doesn't want to dat a
fat woman is considered to be and like even women
are just, like, oh WHEN i just said, that it's completely.
Unacceptable yet you can control in some way your. Weight
women saying, YEAH i won't date short guys totally considered
(36:04):
to be. ACCEPTABLE i think that's probably the biggest disconnect
between what men are allowed to say and what women
are allowed to. Say women can judge men on things
they can't control, men can't even judge women on things
they can. Control welcome to modern. Life it's a jungle
out there in the dating. WORLD i will tell you.
(36:24):
That so to all of our short kings and the
ladies who love, Them god bless, you stay strong and stand,
tall and we will have a great show for you
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(36:45):
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All right, third hour of play in Buck kicks off now,
and it's something of a special anniversary. In fact, one
of our listeners, Steve from Pittsburgh, who listens on WHLO
and ACRON, he sent in this talkback as a helpful
reminder for what the anniversary is play d D.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey guys, this is Steve from Pittsburgh, PA listening to the
WHLO am six forty a ACROD. Got a question for you, Buck.
It was eleven years ago today that you made your
debut behind the Golden EIB microphote. Would like it was
good Friday too. Would like to know your thoughts, recollections
(00:42):
from that day. How did it come about? Anything like
that you might want to share to us with us
be really interesting. Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
First of all, play incredible memory from this guy because
he is not a cousin or an uncle of mine.
I did not put him up to this. I know
that's a pretty wild recall this guy. It's ridiculous love
affair here that he would remember. But credit to him
eleven years. Eleven years, not even like it was ten
(01:10):
or five. It's like, you know, eleven's kind of a
no offense to anybody celebrating their eleventh wedding anniversary. But
usually it's not like, oh my goodness, but yes, this
is impressive, so Steve, I have Yes, it was eleven
years ago. I sat at the Golden EIB Mike, a
young buck, thirty thirty. Gosh, hold am I thirty two
years old? I was either the youngest or maybe Hannity.
(01:32):
I don't know, guys, we got to check on this
was Hannity the youngest to ever stated the EIB Mike
at that time? Or is it me? I think we're
within a year of each other. So I don't know
who gets the who gets the youngest title? But you
want to know what it was like, I'll tell you
about what it was like. First of all, the team
pulled this when they saw this talk back, they pulled
this up. This was I don't even know what this
is going to sound like, but well, let's just say
(01:55):
here's what it was like years ago. Cut twenty five.
Filling in for Rush and now filling in for Rush
Limbaugh he's a national security editor for the Blaze of Farmers,
CIA officer who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's
also worked as a counter terrorism specialist for the New
(02:16):
York Police Department. Ladies and gentlemen, here's Buck Sexton. Buck
Sexton here filling in for Rush Limbaugh today. I'm also
just to bring you up to speed. The national security
editor of the Blaze dot com and fighting a tiny
bit of a cold, but couldn't pass up this opportunity
to have a chance to speak to all of you.
(02:37):
You sound so young, You sell so incredibly young.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I was.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I was very young, but beyond that, So this is
you asked what it was like? Fast forward, I get
Russia's team reached out. I had filled in for Glenn Clay.
I had filled in for hold on one joke, before
you tell your serious story, producer Greg says a cold.
He sounds like he's going through puberty. Uh so, wow,
prouser Greg at two Greg, right right after the Rangers game. Greg,
(03:06):
really really? Oh? I see right now, you can tell
your serious story. But I wanted to know Greg deliver
a shot across the bow to start. So well, let
me let me just say this, this is all, this
is all true. And if my mom's listening, she's gonna
have flashbacks because I had been at the Blaze only
for a couple of years at this point, I'd filled
in for Glenn, and then I filled in for Sean
(03:27):
Hannity and then Rush's team. Sure enough, they said we're
gonna let you sit at the at the Golden Mic,
and I was, you know, this was a huge break
in my career. I was incredibly excited, and I came
down the week of it. I came down with a cold,
and I remember thinking, Okay, this will be fine because
all the cold will be bad on the Monday Tuesday,
(03:47):
but by Friday, I should be okay. What I didn't
realize is that sometimes if you're going to get leerryingitis,
it happens toward the end of the cold, or rather,
you know, mid to end of the cold, because your
vocal cords get so inflamed and dried out from the
virus clay. The day before I had that show, I
had the only time in my life this has happened
to me. I could not speak at all. I had
(04:08):
no voice whatsoever. And that sounds obviously like I'm gonna
wimp out of this, so I can't. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. So I'm scrambling, I'm drinking tea,
I'm doing all this sort of stuff and God bless her.
I call my mom, I say, mom, I got a
fill in for Rush tomorrow. Oh, by the way, I
was like, ah that I mean I had nothing, no voice, nothing.
(04:30):
And she finds she's just scrambling. We're doing online research.
She finds somebody who is the person the doctor in
New York who opera singers go to when it's opera
night and they have Oh and there's something that she
can do. And so my mom and there's all my mom,
I gotta say. My mom calls this doctor who says,
I'm not open tomorrow. I'm going to the Hamptons. My
(04:52):
mom says, my son is filling in for the biggest
radio show in the country. I guess in the world.
I don't know if there's a bigger show in China, but
you know, the biggest show in the world. Can you
please just help him, like whatever you can do. She goes,
all right, the day of I go in there, and
I go in there ten o'clock in the morning. She
looks at my vocal cords its doctor Coravin. She looks
at my vocal cords, Clay, and she goes, you you
(05:15):
are you are cooked. There's no chance you're going to
be able to do this show. The only option is
I'm going to give you a steroid shot. The steroid
shot will bring the inflammation of your vocal cords down,
but it will only last three to four hours. Oh wow.
So it's like ten thirty in the morning the day
of the show. And you know, she didn't she didn't
(05:35):
know she's doing the show. She didn't know what time.
I'm like, that actually will work. Can you give me
the shot late? How can we do it? And so
that I started out that show, I said I had
a bit of a cold. I was shaking that my
voice the whole time was going to just disappear and
I would sound like a huge, a huge wimp. And
at the by the end of the show, by the way,
the voice was pretty much gone. And that night I
couldn't speak again. So that was the whole if you're wondering,
(05:58):
And for days at the anxiet level, for days afterwards,
I was just like shaking it home, like, oh my god,
I was so scared my voice was gonna go. But
it went well enough they had me back to you.
Here we are, okay, So I want to give So
first of all, that's great. The doctor was there and
she was willing to do this. Did your mom think
on the spot about the idea of opera singers and
(06:20):
how they were treated? I actually am curious house. I mean,
that's a brilliant idea that she would have had, because
we make a living based on being able to talk.
But I wouldn't even have thought. I mean, first of all,
and you're in New York City, I know, in Nashville,
I would have been totally in trouble because I can't
imagine the doctor. My mom loves, you know, my mom
was she was in the near she was in La
(06:42):
at the American Ballet Theater, and so she loves classical
music and she has friends in the opera in New
York and everything, so she knows that world a bit.
But it was totally her idea, and I wasn't even
thought about it. That's Mom saving the day. Totally saved
the day, and the doctor. The doctor looked at me,
she was like, she's like, your vote you have. She
actually said, if I tried to push through without the steroid,
(07:03):
you can do permanent dammage because you can create scar
tissue because of all the inflammation in your vocal box.
So this was just at all all the stars alive.
But people ask, yeah, my eleven day. I have never
been nervous doing anything in media in my life before
or since. That was the only time, and by far
the biggest time I was ever nervous. Yes, being behind
(07:26):
the Golden EIB Mike when you rush was having his
six hundred and eighty stations or whatever it was. But Clay,
the whole time I'd come back from break, I was like,
I can still talk. Okay, we got one more segment.
We got one more segment. I told the team. Ali, dude, Ali,
you remember you were there, so was Mike. Yes, running
(07:46):
behind the mic. I do remember, and I remember meeting
you that day back. I would have had no idea
you were cool as a cucumber. I was shaking like
a leaf. I was shaking like a leaf. So yeah,
that was I mean, Clay, you're the same. I can
tell you the same thing. Even when the first time
I did tea, Like the first time I was on
cable news, I was like, I was a CIA baby,
cool as a cucumber, Like this isn't gonna phase me.
This was when I was like, oh my god, oh
(08:08):
my god, oh my God, So I remember it trusts
me eleven years ago in Mom, you are the greatest mom,
but also a genius on the spot. I mean, that's
what I'm saying. Like even to think, okay, who would
be able to treat this, who would be able to
figure out a way to make this happen? Because this
is always an issue for singers, right, I know. I
(08:29):
think I came on the air and talked about the
fact that I went to watch Adele and some of
you were like, what it was an incredible right, she
was amazing in Caesar's but then she's had to cancel
a ton of her performances because of vocal fold related issues.
And obviously, when you are an incredible talent like that,
something as simple as a cold can throw everything into
(08:53):
an uproar. So I wouldn't have even thought about that.
But credit to your mom, because you probably got how
many doctors like that are there in the nation? Ten
very high that specialized that specialized in this. Because most
people would just say, look, you got a cold, like
go home from work, like you know it, just don't
talk as much as you entirely will Fine, It's it's
not a major medical issue unless you make a living
(09:16):
and have a performance of some kind with your voice.
But yeah, I like to tell people on such a
vocal athlete that I had to take steroids performance enhancing
drugs for my So how long did it take for
your voice to get back to normal after you took
the steroid shot to be able to do the show
on that first three days? Two to three days still
of just like being shut down? Oh yeah, horse, you know,
sounded totally weird, but yeah, So when I met Ali
(09:39):
and the team and Mike and Mike, Mike Mamone was there.
Mike knew I was nervous as hell. But anyway, when
I was there, they were there, and that was how
it all went. Can I also do one more throwback?
So that was the eleven year annivers that we had.
The one thing I think, Clay, you'll appreciate this because
in the absolute you and I got to know each
other the first time because of COVID, Because I was like,
who's the sports guy who actually understand that masks are
(10:01):
crazy and that we shouldn't shut all this stuff down.
Prusa Mark who went to the Rangers game who knows sports,
was like, you got to know this, Clay, guy, he's
saying what you're saying. May April, May twenty twenty. We're
talking about very very early on. But I was so
frustrated about what was going on with the social media
platforms at that time that I just straight up I
(10:21):
went on a rant on Twitter about how it's never
going to change. We need a billionaire who's conservative to
step up and buy one of these things, because otherwise
we're just toast and rush. This is June sixteen, twenty twenty.
Who read the whole thing on air? Listen to this
play twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Many of you might remember the former guest host on
this program, Buck Sextead of the CIA. Buck now tweets
a lot. Does he have his own show now? Or
yeah he does? Wait wait, Buck has been on a
tweet storm and had to put it in one of
those one of those thread apps because there's so many
(10:58):
tweets and he's ticked off at how conservative everything has
just given up. Has just seated the country seated, Hollywood, seeded, music, seated,
television seated, the media seated.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Everything. Doesn't understand it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
If one of the conservative billionaires out there has any
stomach for saving their country from this mob, they should
buy and flip a major media platform or fund a
new one and make it an unsinkable aircraft carrier of
true free speech.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Clay Elon bought Twitter four years later, and I think
changed the trajectory of the twenty twenty four election and
online discourse as it exists. And you know, so it
was a long time coming. In Russ saw too that
with the Remember that was the height of the censorship
on social media. Yeah, and we were just getting pummeled,
shut down, locked, And isn't amazing now we're talking about
(11:59):
COVID reps and we actually have a free we have
and we have truth and we have a rumble on
these other platforms. But that was like the darkest June
of twenty twenty, the darkest days of social media censorship
in a lot of ways. Oh, I totally remember. I
mean that was when I was trying to argue for
schools reopening and to play sports. And you would have
(12:21):
thought that I was the craziest person on the planet, right,
I mean, just the idea that And I'm thankful that
I lived in Tennessee and people like Ron DeSantis and
a lot of you who live in Red States. Your
school's opened back up. My kids went back to school
in August of twenty twenty, but I knew if we
could play sports, it would be a huge signpost for
returning to cultural normalcy. And at that point in time,
(12:44):
it's not just that Elon. You're right, it's not just
that Elon bought Twitter. It's that suddenly he's awoken Mark Zuckerberg,
Jeff Bezos, other people who weren't as brave to lead
the charge, but they've at least been willing to follow
the charge up the hill to try to put back
in place some measure of free speech principles in the
(13:05):
online marketplace. Right did Elon flipping X as I thought
at the time, right when he was doing it, and
you were the first one who ever told me that
was even under consideration. I remember you said, Hey, I
think Elon because of the Babylon b account freeze, and
because he knows Seth Dillon, Seth Dylon, Right, yeah, Seth Dylan,
you know that this may happen, which at the time
(13:26):
seemed like, oh my gosh, like that's sure enough. Forty
three billion dollars later, Elon flips it around. But that
also puts downstream pressure on the other social media platforms
not to be fair and I know they're not, and
Facebook is still a wasteland in a lot of ways
for free speech, but to be less oppressive because they
don't want to lose all market share to for half
(13:47):
the country. So and then that was an enormously important
shift that we should never lose sight of because Clay,
I mean, we were talking about this stuff, and you
and I were discussing masked in twenty twenty. It it
was like it was like the end times for free speech.
It really was. Couldn't say stuff about the election in
that year. By the end of the year, Trump got
kicked off of social media, couldn't say masks don't work.
(14:10):
These these websites attacking us. And you know, I'm sure
you had this too. I had the New York Times
attack me. I had what's that fact what's the fact
check dot org? With all these organs, some of those
even still. Yes, but yes, there was an entire cottage
industry of places designed to attack anyone who had the
goal to speak out in any way against COVID lockdowns
or COVID shots or asking. They came after you and
(14:33):
the people who were attacked, And I know a lot
of you and your personal capacities felt the same thing.
We felt. What we dealt with it publicly and in
a professional setting on radio and on TV. But we
were right about everything. So I feel good about that.
Remember that, don't ever let that go. When it really counted.
Where were you? And I can look at Clay and
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, Ryan and
Montana says, you know what, Clay, You're a moron. There
are probably lots of people in Nashville that do this
for singers. Yeah, you're probably right, GG. Let's listen to him.
Maybe he's not ready yet. Uh, but we'll play that
for you when we come back again. That's a new
(16:50):
talkback GG from Ryan in Montana. But when we come
back here, Buck, let's dive into some of the reactions.
Speaking of talkback, we have been deluged since yesterday's discussion.
Buck found a study that women basically on online dating
(17:11):
sites are ignoring men who are five eight or shorter,
just completely unwilling to date them. Meanwhile flooding men who
are six foot and taller. And we've got all sorts
of reactions from the Clay and Buck podcast network, from
lots of you, and they are fabulous, and I think
that you guys are going to enjoy many of those.
(17:31):
As we finish the last half hour of the week,
we'll have some fun with you rolling in. Buck pointed
out earlier in the program that we were deluged. Here
is GG. It's ready. Let's play this right now.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Ryan and Montana Here, Clay, you live in Nashville, Tennessee,
the country music capital of the world. I'm willing to
bet there's a few vocal doctors there.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You're right, I'm a moron. Probably of the cities that
are out there, Nashville is at the top of the
list on vokes doctors. Uh, but hopefully I will not
need one in the meantime. You know what I do
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welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were talking about
this story that got a lot of attentions really more
(19:03):
of just a thesis. And I have to give credit
to my friend Jedediah Bila, who's now relaunched her podcast
you know her from the View and from Fox News
for many years. She shared some data. It's not even
new data, but it's come up in conversation with people
that I know lately that women are let's just say it, okay,
(19:24):
when we say women, we're speaking in generalities here, but
something like eighty five percent of women won't date a guy,
say they don't want a data guy. Maybe it's a
better way of putting it. Who's under six feet tall?
And fourteen percent of guys are actually over six feet tall.
So there's a little bit of a math mismatch here. Now,
a lot of you weigh in, we'll get to some
of that, a lot of talkbacks, a lot of emails,
(19:44):
including friends of the show who have their own programs.
One of them might be confused from a distance clay
with Paul Bunyan, because he is so enormous that he
hits his head on the bottom of pretty much everyone's
ceiling on a regular basis. Well, let me just say here,
cut you off a little bit. Paul Bunyan is like
(20:05):
a rugged, masculine, brawny man, gangly, not particularly strong, more
like jolly green giant, but without the muscles, is the
way that I would describe Jesse Kelly. Wow. Uh, well,
I'm just gonna put it out there. Jesse taking some
shots at the shorter brethren among us out there. Here's
(20:27):
what he said, play it. What's up?
Speaker 7 (20:28):
It's me Jesse Kelly and Clay and Buck asked me
if I would weigh in on the controversy that apparently
has popped up over tall guys versus short guys. What
women prefer, what they should prefer? So I just I
wanted to, first of all, clear something up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Life is all about balance, right, Everything's about striking a balance.
The right amount of time at work, the right amount
of time at home, the right everything's about a balance, right. Well,
everything in our life works this way. If you're a
new dude who's under six feet tall, you're most likely
somebody who peaked in grade school or high school. That's
(21:08):
actually when you stop growing as well. And during that time,
usually it's the short guys. He gets the leg hair first,
he drives a nicer car than everyone else, and for
a few years he gets to be the top dog.
Then he stops growing at five six like most children do.
And then the girl that used to date you now
(21:32):
looks over at me, towering above you, and she automatically
knows it's not just that I'm taller, It's that I'm
a superior being in virtually every way. It's not about
your income, or your hair or anything else. Height is
all that matters, Absolutely, all that matters. And the women
(21:55):
listening know that is true. You short guys, don't get
down on yourself at all. Listen, there's someone out there
for everybody. There are women who will lower their standards
for you, and you should thank God for them.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
All right. Just you know, Jen Jesse is like six',
nine so he thinks everybody is. Short, yeah he is
leaning into this Heidism clay in a big. WAY i
DID i did hear a mention of hair though There,
well he doesn't have any, hair but he's fortunate because
he's so. Tall most people can't. Tell now we have other.
(22:32):
Reactions Carol, markowitz who is a mother of three and
quite quite has a great show on the Klan buck podcast,
network which you should all check, out and normally With
Mary Catherine. Ham she's one of our wonderful podcast. HOSTS
i think That Carol markowitz has one of the best
voices out there for a women's. Host like when you
(22:55):
hear her, voice it sounds like something that would be
a audio book voice, voice not for like a professional voice.
Actor so here Is Carol markowitz reacting to the controversy
over women not willing to date short.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Men, hey Clan, buck It's Carol markowitz from The Carol
Markowitz show end normally on the Clan buck Podcast. NETWORK
i fully agree With buck that dating apps have destroyed
dating life by making people have these unrealistic. Expectations people
have really lost all perspective about what makes attraction and
(23:33):
what they actually want in a. Partner online dating makes
you feel like you can punch in the perfect dimensions
for your possible boyfriend or girlfriend and filter by those,
Parameters so why shouldn't? You BUT i think that for
men there's always another woman on the next, swipe so
why settle for this? One and for women they rather
(23:57):
wait than get someone they don't. Consider it's Bad my
message every, day all the. Time get off the, apps
go have the messy in person. Interactions that will show
you who people really. Are let it be, awkward let
it be, weird but at least it's. Real go have
(24:19):
a real, Life go meet people in real. Life you'll
be so much better.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
OFF i think that's. Perfect by the, WAY i totally
agree with. HER i rest my. CASE i think she nailed,
it AND i didn't even hear that until we just
played it on the. Air. NOW i will also submit
That carol loved the, interaction probably not surprisingly based on
the comment that she just gave there of The Atlanta
braves sideline reporter and the girl that he was interviewing
(24:44):
during the course of that game that turned into a
huge story here this week That buck was in disbelief
could have ever been controversial in any, way AND i
think it is kind of a refreshing. Take, hey meet
some somebody in, person have an actual face to face
interaction with, him and this IS i. Believe we've also
(25:06):
Got Lisa, booth also a part of The clay And
buck podcast, network continuing the breakdown we just heard From
Carol markowitz and From Jesse. Kelly here's What lisa had to.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Say hey, Guys lisa with the truth With Lisa, Booth
so here's the. Truth does height? Matter that is the. Question,
well the honest answer, is of course it. DOES i, mean,
look every woman wants to feel smaller than her boyfriend
or her significant. Other we want to feel protected in his,
(25:36):
arms so of course it. Matters of course we would
rather have someone who's. Taller, however, LOOK i think everyone's
dated a guy who is maybe around the same. Height so,
YEAH i, mean, look you would date someone if you
really fell in love with someone who is a little bit.
Shorter it's not the end of the, world but it.
MATTERS i don't THINK i would go shorter, though because you,
(25:59):
know this isn't, limbo you, know so, yeah so it does,
Matter BUT i think a woman would make an exception
for a really incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Man, Okay, CLAY i love. That we we basically and
we did not coordinate. This we just asked those friends
of the, show and you, know they had they had
seen on social and everything this back and. Forth what's
your take on? It we really Have Jesse, kelly, who
let's just be, Honest Jesse kelly is a height. Supremacist, okay,
yes he is a height. Supremacist it's all about height with.
Him everything else is, secondary and he just looks down
(26:31):
his nose from way up there in the clouds of
being six nine or six ten or, whatever and all
of us little we're Like lilliputians and He's gulliver and
that's how the world.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay carol takes more the, uh you, know the we
shouldn't be superficial and get off the apps and you're not,
building you're you're not building like a car where you
get to pick the heated seats or. Whatever you're you're
meeting a. Person AND i Think lisa is a little
bit in between of, look it's not, everything but it does,
matter and women should look into. This SO i feel
like we've GOT i WON'T i want to open up
lines and talkbacks and everything so people can tell us
(27:03):
who's position on this they find most. Amenable do you
want to do the talkback From? Russell? YEAH i also
Think carol's position is a really interesting one BECAUSE i
don't only think women hold out and are waiting for
the right. GUY i actually think sometimes they hold out
and then they look back and they're, like you know,
(27:24):
WHAT i should have gone With GUY a Or GUY
c or GUY f THAT i, dated and then they're
also measuring not only their ideal, standard but also some
other guy who went on and got married to somebody,
else and they're thinking to themselves if they stay. Single,
man DID i blow it in that relationship? Too? RIGHT i?
(27:46):
Lie you. Know i'm happy that it worked out for
me the WAY i did BECAUSE i couldn't love my
wife more THAN i, do AND i think she's my
soulmate and we have the cutest baby and everything's. Perfect
but every lady when buck was, single who walked away
from The, buckster big, mistake just Like julia robertson, women big. Mistake? Huge,
WELL i, think, YEAH i think that if you walk
away from a relationship and then the guy ends up
(28:07):
getting married and he's got a good family and everything,
ELSE i think a lot of those women look. Back
AND i do think the one thing that you nailed
IS i do Think instagram has changed it because in years,
past you dated a, guy but people had to come
meet him right like. You in order to know who
your friend was, dating you went to, lunch or you
went to, dinner or you went to a party or
(28:29):
a social event with, them and you judge them based
on face to. Face there wasn't as much of an
Immediate oh what does it look like On? Instagram what
does it look like on social? Media AND i think
that many women have fallen victim to what is the
social media reaction going to be to my new? Guy
and if it's, Not, hey this is the perfect, guy
(28:51):
then they're. Unhappy and look the numbers look like that were.
True lots of women out there are now never getting. Married,
yes well that's this is why it's actually An this
is not a minor. Thing this is a big, issue you, Know,
Elon and there's a whole other conversation here About elon's
approach to, This BUT i have tremendous respect For. Elon it's.
Fantastic says we're not having enough, babies which is true
(29:11):
if you look the chart on us babies over, time it's,
just you, know slowly but surely going. Down marriage formation
has also been going, down not, catastrophically and it's actually
had a bit of a rebound in some demographics, recently
but marriage formation is going. Down And, CLAY i think,
that you, know we are the first generation, now we're
(29:31):
seeing the first generation now that has had this kind
of social media and online PRESENCE i, mean here's a
perfect example of. This how many women out there when
they post a photo with their not let's, say not their,
husband but you, know their boyfriend or fiance if they're
the same height or he's a little, smaller would feel
weird about. It, YEAH i THINK i think the number
(29:52):
is very, high WHICH i think is a little silly
in my. Opinion but you know, WHAT i want to
open this up because a. Feeling we'll get some, people
because people have very strong feelings on, this BUT i
WANT i want to hear from all of, you and
ALSO i want you to have the energy to go
get after it in the. Gym so, height who cares about?
Height if you're, jacked let me tell you that's gonna
(30:12):
help you a. Lot, guys at least be the best,
version the, strongest, best healthiest version of. Yourself that's always the.
Goal that's What i'm trying to, do and that's what
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(32:14):
as for our Friend Jesse, kelly he's on hundreds of.
Stations his show is doing. Fantastically he's lighting his cigars
one thousand dollars. Bills so you don't need to puff
up his head all six foot eight up there in
the sky anymore than he already already. Is his confidence
doesn't need any, BOOSTS i can assure. You Caller jared
is a Former navy seal and he's five to. Three what's, Up.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Jared, Yes i'm so honored to finally get through to you.
Guys BUT i haven't Ever i'll be, Honest i've never
tried to get through you.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
Guys but it was With Rush limbaugh and with you
the subject going.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
On i'm, like oh, Lord i've got to call.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
In i've got to try it one more. Time And
i'm so honored to actually be. On thank you very.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Much so.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
The navy, program they Want navy sills to be.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Short the shorter you, are and.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
Stealthier you'll be and less, hidden so.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
It doesn't.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Matter they'll take tall. Men but as a five ft
three X navy.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Very.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Proud, okay, So, jared you're a badass and we love
you and we appreciate you serving our. Country let me ask, you,
though tallest woman you've ever? Dated five? Six okay you?
No but also you know, you're you, know A navy.
Guy you show them the anchor tattoo and your. Bicep
(33:48):
you're a. Seal you, know you're a little bit of
a special. Case i'm just going to say, this, like you,
Know i'm sure you did fine with the.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
Ladies, well you, know the point of the matter, is,
hey and my world the shorter you, are and in this,
world the batter.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
You, are the more stealth you.
Speaker 10 (34:06):
Are but you know what, AGAIN i go back to
when you get in the real.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
World, yeah it's kind of hard to get a woman
when you're my.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Size thank you for the. Call appreciate you calling, In,
jared and thank you for your. Service we got to
talk back here From russell and Salt lake see see
he listens ON knrs where we are consistently number. One thank,
You Salt Lake. City we love. You play it, guys,
guys guys got it all. Wrong it's not the, height
it's the guitar in the guy's. HANDS i think it's
(34:35):
the flute, personally BUT i could weave in everybody's. Hands
what percentage of musicians in rock bands got into music
solely for? GIRLS i MEAN i Think Dave navarro of
what is he nine inch nails or, no not nine?
Inches Well Red Hot Chili, peppers, right, Yeah Red Hot Chili. Pepper,
SORRY i think he's like five to two or five,
(34:56):
three like some of these guys that are on. Stage,
oh you never see anyone really sort of. Standing some
of these big ROCK i, mean Wasn't prince was like four.
Eleven he was. Tiny, yeah actually a pretty good basketball player.
Too remember This chappelle skit like that was based in.
Reality prince was a high school basketball pretty good player
in The minneapolis. Area josh In california wants to weigh And,
(35:17):
josh what do you have for?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Us?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
YEAH i was just calling because while women can hold
menus standards of, height why can't we hold them to
the standards of you, know weight and taking care of?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Themselves can they cook a? MEAL i, mean you, know
it's got to be both. Ways when it comes to
a successful.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Marriage it's not always if the guy's just, tall but
if the woman's just kind of you, Know i'm Pretty.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
And, Josh josh your ap preacher the Choir, here a
man who says that he doesn't want to dat a
fat woman is considered to be and like even women
are just, like, oh WHEN i just said, that it's completely.
Unacceptable yet you can control in some way your. Weight
women saying, YEAH i won't date short guys totally considered
(36:04):
to be. ACCEPTABLE i think that's probably the biggest disconnect
between what men are allowed to say and what women
are allowed to. Say women can judge men on things
they can't control, men can't even judge women on things
they can. Control welcome to modern. Life it's a jungle
out there in the dating. WORLD i will tell you.
(36:24):
That so to all of our short kings and the
ladies who love, Them god bless, you stay strong and stand,
tall and we will have a great show for you
coming up On. Monday let me, say if you missed
any of the podcasts from this, week or if you
haven't listened To clay And buck podcast, before download that iHeart.
App go listen To Carol, Markowitz go listen To Dave.
(36:45):
Rutherford he's our former seal. Buddy his show is blowing.
Up more and more people go into it every. Day
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