November 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show zeroes in on immigration policy, economic recovery, and breaking political news. Buck Sexton opens with a deep dive into illegal immigration under Biden, highlighting the estimated 10 million migrants who entered the U.S. during his presidency. Buck argues that this influx has strained housing, healthcare, and job markets, framing it as a massive economic and social burden on American taxpayers. He cites JD Vance’s remarks on housing affordability, explaining how unchecked immigration and limited housing supply have driven prices sky-high, especially in cities like New York where migrants occupy up to 25% of hotel rooms at taxpayer expense.
The conversation expands to legal immigration reform, with Buck and Governor Ron DeSantis stressing the need for a critical reassessment of current policies. DeSantis warns against the assumption that all legal immigration is inherently good, urging a focus on assimilation and cultural cohesion. Buck uses a striking analogy—too much water can kill you—to illustrate how excessive immigration, even legal, can destabilize a nation. He calls for a pause to restore continuity and shared American identity.
Buck welcomes Eric Trump for an in-depth interview on the economy and Trump administration policies. Eric touts his book Under Siege and outlines why he’s “bullish on America,” citing Trump’s aggressive energy strategy, including nuclear and drilling initiatives, as key drivers of GDP growth. He explains how low energy costs, bonus depreciation, historic tax cuts, and tariffs will fuel manufacturing, AI, crypto, and inward investment. Eric contrasts Trump’s economic record with Biden’s “four years of 10% inflation,” blaming Biden for skyrocketing housing and energy costs. He predicts a booming U.S. economy in 2026, bolstered by global investment and trade deals.
The hour closes with lighter listener talkbacks on dating etiquette and pickup lines, followed by breaking news: the House passes the Epstein Files Transparency Act in a 427–1 vote, sending the bill to the Senate. Buck applauds the move for transparency, noting Trump’s support for full disclosure.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here. Immigration, big issue, very important,
illegal immigration and legal immigration. Actually conversations to be had
about all of this right now given the Trump agenda.
The border, as he had mentioned just a little while
(00:23):
ago with the Saudi Crown Prince in the Oval office,
border is very secure. I don't know if it's the
most secure. You know, they got a pretty secure border
between North and South Korea, but yeah, I get his point.
It's a very secure border now, and compared to what
it was, it's a remarkable transformation. And we should never
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lose sight of the fact that a secure border was
always possible, but the Democrats didn't want it, and in
fact chose to make it insecure, wide open. In fact,
that is what occurred, and Trump has proven that in
very short, very short order, within a few months of
(01:06):
taking office, it all changed. And so all those reporters,
all those Democrats who pretended under Biden's wide open border
policies that it was just beyond the capabilities of the
United States government to do something about it, they were
(01:26):
lying to you. They were lying to you. Please do
not forget that, because there's a lot of work to
be done. Still on immigration, the H one B issue,
which is about reforming a legal component of immigration. But
let's still stay focused here for a bit. On the
illegal immigration issue. We had around ten million. We don't
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even know the exact number. We don't know how many
came in under Biden. We don't know how many are
here total. Nobody does, and anyone who says otherwise again
lying to you. So we had ten million come in
under Biden, which there are illegals in this country who
have been here for a short period of time, completely unvetted,
no idea who they are, and we, the American people,
have had enough of this. Solid majority of Americans want
(02:12):
illegals who came here under Biden to be sent back
to their home country, which is a This is a
just outcome. We're not arguing in favor of solitary confinement
for ten years for every illegal came here. I understand
vast majority of them not bad people at all. They
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want a better life for themselves than their kids. I
bear for those illegals, I don't bear them any ill will,
but they aren't allowed to stay here. There's a different thing.
I don't have a problem with them as individuals, as
human beings, and I saw what the Catholic Conference of Bishops,
and you know, I'm trying to be more active in
(02:57):
my Catholic faith in the last couple of years, well
obviously coinciding as well with my son's birth. I think
it is very important that he grow up in a
household that at some level is practicing it's Christian faith,
not just believing and not just knowing, but active in
our church and Catholic Church at least in an a
(03:17):
Christian faith at a minimum. I saw what the Catholic
bishops put out there, and it's just, yeah, I won't
get into this now. Other then I think there's a lot,
a lot of work to be done inside the Catholic
Church and the way that it has been brought so
far to the left. These bishops have nothing to say
about abortion everywhere at all times, on demand and blue
(03:37):
states and abortion and pro abortion politicians, and they pro
transagenda politicians and for trans kids. All this nothing to
say about that, only open borders. This is when this
is when it's too far for them. Very frustrating, very frustrating,
because in a modern American society, as we in our
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modern American society. Presence equals the state giving them things
that they take from Americans that are rightfully that rightfully
belong to Americans, and that are taken from us under
the threat of force. If I don't pay my taxes,
in fact, if I don't even if I don't pay
my taxes, I go to prison. If I don't pay
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my healthcare premiums, I don't have access to private healthcare.
And I'm paying for all the emergency room visits with
my tax dollars for all these illegals they're taking from
there's a theft that occurs. A theft is occurring on
a massive scale by the presence of these illegals, and
it is a theft that people need to understand in
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the most clear terms and that this must be addressed
by the administration. In fact, JD Vance, this has cut twelve.
So this ties into a lot, ties into the jobs issue,
ties into the tax issue, ties into the housing issue.
And here is JD Vance on the issue of home
affordability and illegals, Plate twelve.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive. Why is that because we flooded the country
with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that
ought by right go to American citizens. And at the
same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with,
even for the population that we had. So what we're
doing is trying to make it easier to build houses,
(05:23):
trying to make it easier to build factories and things
like that so that people have good jobs. We're also
getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,
and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividend.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No matter what Democrats say, no matter what these civilization
undermining pro illegal alien NGOs do and say, Supply and
demand is a real thing. It's a real thing when
it comes to the labor market. It's a real thing.
(05:55):
When it comes to the housing market. It's always real,
it's always operating. It's just a question of how much
state interference is there, how much subterfuge is there in
the market. But people need places to live, they need
to pay for them. The prices are being set. And
in this case here let me get let me give
(06:17):
you just a particularly clear example, and this is short
term housing hotels New York City. I'm gonna be visiting
my family next week in New York. It has not.
People keep even hat people say to me like, has
Mam Donnie ruined it again? I'm like, well, he's not
mayor yet, so we gotta we gotta take a moment.
You know, it comes mayor, I think a little later.
(06:39):
But here, here we have New York City with its
housing prices and it's which are sky high. But also
which is how Mamdani of course rode this issue into
the Mayor's office. But then you have on top of
that the hotels in New York City. Hotels are are
(07:00):
wildly expensive. And I know this because I'm looking at
the hotel bills for next week and I went, oh,
my gosh, hotels are wildly expensive in New York. It
was the case. I'm not sure what it is right now,
but in the last few years that migrants at taxpayer expense,
we're taking up twenty percent, twenty to twenty five percent.
I think it was of the hotel rooms in the
(07:24):
five boroughs of New York City. That's a huge portion
of them. When you take twenty five percent off the
table for those of us who are not government subsidized
and not having someone else pay for it, what happens.
Price goes up more people want the same amount of
goods that are there, the price goes up. So if
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that applies in New York City, and it most certainly
does the same way that the thirty percent of illegals
using all hotel I'm sorry, all er visits right, the
same way that those individuals create longer waits and more
expensive care for everybody else. Supply and demand, there's always
(08:10):
a cost. There is no free lunch. I mean, some
people have a free lunch, but it's not free for everybody, right,
somebody else is paying for that lunch. That's why there
can't be a free lunch. Someone's paying, and it's you,
and many of us have become tired of how much
of that is going on when it comes to illegal
aliens in the millions in this country. And there's also
(08:32):
the issue of when do we have too many illegals
and when do we have too many recent arrivals for
assimilation to function the way that it needs to in
any society. Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, And it's not
just because I live here. Look, Governor DeSantis is a
big part of why I moved here because of what
he was doing in this state. He i think is
(08:55):
the best governor still in America. I've never experienced this before,
and I joke around with my family members about this.
I used to just always have to tell myself, I
lived in New York, all right, you know, the political leadership,
although there were some good mayors, there were some good mayors,
but at the state level, a lot a lot of bozo,
a lot of dumb stuff being done at that are Well,
i still love New York, even if the leadership is dumb.
(09:16):
Now I'm in Florida and I get to say, wow,
this is a great state. I'm really enjoying my life here.
And the leadership does smart things that they should do,
and they even think of smart things to do that
I hadn't thought of. That's what it is to be
in a state with intelligent, conservative, realistic, sane governance. Now,
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you know, some of you really like Texas, you really
like Tennessee, you really like whatever in red state governor
you have some of you in Utah. Well, I've heard it.
I've heard. I've heard some mixed reviews about how you
feel about your state governance. You love your state, but
I've heard I'm just saying, we have a huge salt
Lake City audience. I was out in Utah not long
(10:00):
and I heard you know, you love Utah, but the
Utah leadership, I hear some things a little mixed, a
little mixed review. But DeSantis weighed in on the illegal
immigrant issue. And here he is, and he's just saying
something that needs to be said. It is possible to
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take in too many foreigners too quickly, and we need
to be realistic about that as a country, because at
some level, a country is an idea. It is lines
on a map that only can exist because there is
a sense of a political nation, family of people, a
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bond that exists between us as Americans. It's a very complicated,
it really interesting thing, isn't it the notion of this nation, state,
of this American family that you and I you know,
you may have grown up in Washington State, or you
may have grown up in college and I grew up
in New York City, and that there's something that holds us.
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There are things that hold us together. We have all
this shared belief, all this shared sense of destiny and
purpose as Americans. We have to protect that and preserve
that it isn't just a guarantee. In fact, countries fall apart.
They have civil wars, they have secession movements, they have breakages.
(11:25):
In that polity, the Greeks would have called it right
in that political family. And Ron DeSantis says, look, what
if you bring ten million people into ten million people
from Somalia into Georgia, would that be a good idea
play cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You have some strain on the right the son and no,
illegal immigration is bad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Legal immigration, no matter what, is good.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And wait a minute, now, I'm not saying any of
it's that it's all bad or what. But is bringing
ten million people from like Somalia in dumping them into
Georgia is that good because it's legal? I think you
have to think critically about what are we doing with
an immigration policy and is it benefiting the American people?
Is it helping to promote a strong American culture.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We should never bring people.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Into this country who hate America.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We have to be smart.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's lazy thinking to say anything that's legal must necessarily
be good.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Critical And this is the next level of this discussion.
This is where this is all going. Now. It's not
just illegal immigration that needs a good long look. We've
had a lot of legal immigration. We've changed this country
faster with foreigners than at any time in our history,
more than the Ellis Island era, more than the period
(12:43):
of the settlers, more than any time. Okay, we have
had massive transformation. Now a lot of them, A lot
of people come here become great Americans. I live here
in South Florida head. It's funny because I, through my
study of authoritarianism and communismsally, I just have this inherent
fondness and kinship with Venezuelan Americans and Cuban Americans who
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are right wing and hate communism, like we just have.
I just have this bond. I they think how I think,
and we so. Yes, it can work and it's a
beautiful thing, and it is part of the story of
American I get all of that. But there has to
be a real conversation about have we done too much
of this thing? You know, you drink too much water,
you die. You know that that's a truth. That's a
(13:30):
real thing. You can actually die. You need water to live.
Water is not bad. Too much water too fast, guys,
I think it's called like hypa natremia or something. Check
me on this one. But it's when you get the
sodium levels get thrown off. It happens to elite athletes sometimes,
and like super marathons or ultra marathons, you could water
can kill you if there's too much of it. Drinking it,
(13:52):
I mean, obviously you can drown in it, but drinking
too much water. It is possible that too much of
what is otherwise a good thing or a valid thing.
Have we had too much legal immigration too quickly in
this country. This is not to disparage anyone who's come
here legally. We love our American legal immigrants, and you know,
but the number has gotten really big and we do
have to draw a line somewhere, and maybe it's time
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to like, you know, cozy up with our fellow Americans
for a while here and have some continuity, some sense
of assimilation, some sense of our shared americanness. That is
a because if you look at previous periods of migration
to America, there was a surge and then things calm
(14:34):
down for a while and we let things settle. There
was a surge and then we get it is only
in this era where we've done. We're just blown the
hinges off the doors. Everyone's coming, everyone's coming illegally. You know,
it's a free for all, then it's supposed to continue
this way in perpetuity. Ron knows Ron de scentists, the
governor knows that's crazy. No country can be the country
(14:55):
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right, welcome back in here team. We're gonna be
joined in a few minutes by our friend Eric Trump,
who runs a Trump organization, and well is Eric Trump?
You know what he is, and talk to him about
everything going on today. Also, just a little quick I
was correct. I should never doubt myself on these matters.
Hypo netremia a condition where excess water dilutes the body's
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sodium levels. In severe cases can lead to brain damage
or even be life threatening. So you know, I like
to point this out to people that you need water
or you will die, but way too much water can
also kill you. So we you know, some immigration, when
Trump's talking about the very specific H one B and
not I think the one or something where you have
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that's a super special skills thing. But the H one
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All right, Welcome back in everybody, Eric, who is executive
president of the Vice president of the Trump Organization joins us. Now,
he's got a great book out Under Siege, and it
has been number one, number one for many, many weeks.
(19:12):
It's a great book. Highly recommend it to you. Also,
the name of a wonderful movie, as we discussed last time,
Steven Seagal's best Eric. Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, last time you thought it was John Claud van Dam,
But what was Steven Skall? Now, uh, listen, we've come
along way since then. We were number one New York
Times bestseller. We're number one every week on Amazon. We've
We've done an unbelievable job. And this country's pissed off.
My friend, I think you know that better than anybody.
But this country is severely pissed off. And and I
think that's why you know it ran the charts as
hard as it did, and it's why it's doing as
(19:42):
well as it is.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I would tell you this, my friend, I think he
was play who messed up Jean Claude, Ven de m
and h Steven Sagall because I would never never mess
up in our eighties action lore, that's a that's a clay.
I'm throwing clay. Right under the bus.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Off, throw Clay under the buss. I'm pretty I'm pretty
sure it was.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm taking this whispering angel chardonnay drinking, you know, fancy
fellow throwing him on the bus. Anyway, he sends his regards.
By the way, he's on a he's on a super
secret mission which we will only be able to tell
the audience about I think later on the week. But
he's abroad right now. But let me let me just
ask you about this, because you know your your your
dad today was President United States, was in the Oval
(20:22):
office with the Saudi Crown Prince, and the questions from
the reporters, and one in particular really intended to just
be attacks, not even really questions, you know, very much
in the when did you stop beating your wife category
of questions, and President Trump had just had just had enough.
I gotta say, I hear that. I see a lot
(20:42):
of other people hear that, and they think, yeah, I
actually don't think the president should sit there and just
take abuse from journalists.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, he's not good at taking abuse from journalists, and
he's he's certainly at the point in his life where
he doesn't need to. In fact, some of those interactions
are some of the most comical interactions you'll you'll ever see.
And you know, and in the media always portrays themselves
as jokers. They have this entire time. I mean, look
at sixty minutes, right, look at look at Leslie's stall.
You know, you know, my father goes out, they're spying
(21:15):
on my campaign. They're not spying on your and then
sure enough, guess what we find out that they're spying
on the campaign. And look at you know, CNN every
single day, and look at the questions that they ask
and every single time they ask a question, everything that
my father says is proven to be correct. And yet
they continue to go down these narratives, right, I mean,
look at the New York Times with their Pulitzer prizes
for the Russia hoax. It was a hoax. They you know,
(21:38):
they let it run for a three year period of time,
and then it came out those a hoax. They won't
give back their Pulitzer prizes. But yet they've raided my
father every single day. Look at all the sham indictments
and trials in New York where every single day, you know,
they said my father was going to jail, They said
that you know, he was good, he was the worst human.
And guess what, every single one of those lawsuits got
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got overturned, right, every single one of those indictments got
overturned in the court system. And so you know, the
point of the narrative is our media in this country
doesn't have a whole lot of credibility. The trust in
our media in this country is single digits, right, No
one likes them, no one trusts them. They normally conduct
themselves like absolute fools. And as why American people don't
like them, don't watch them, and it's why independent voice
(22:20):
like yours is doing so well well.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know, on this issue of the critics of the
administration of your dad and the team he has around
him in the cabinet, it's pretty remarkable to me. You know,
you run your the executive vice president of the Trump organization.
You've been operating in the world of international business dealings
and at a scale with you know, big dollar figures,
(22:44):
a lot of employees, a lot of productivity, a lot
of things going on. The voices that I hear attacking
Trump from the left, the Democrat Party, attacking this administration
on affordability, on things like housing, I just have to laugh.
These people. You know, this is the the AOC Mamdannie wing.
They don't know a darn thing about how to build anything,
(23:05):
what it costs, what it means to actually create product
for people like homes to live in, and yet they're
the experts on this, I mean, this strain of Mamdannism.
It's just going to drive you nuts as part of
a family of builders.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You know what it drives me to nuts is actually,
under Joe Biden, you had you know, four years of
ten percent plus inflation in this country right. That means
every two by four at home depot is more expensive.
I mean, housing prices literally doubled. And that's because of massive,
massive inflation. Guess who that benefits. That doesn't benefit you know,
the lower middle classes. That benefits people that have assets.
(23:38):
And yet they're talking about affordability now, so you mean
to tell me ten percent compound in every single year.
You remember energy prices, you know, Bucky, you remember the
little stickers that said I did that and it's a
picture of Joe Biden's face and everybody was putting them
on the gas prices. You know, gas pumps all over
the country right when energy costs became some of the
most expensive in history. When you know, America stopped exporting energy, right,
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they became dependent on other countries for energy, even though
we were totally energy sufficient under my father's first term,
and he gave it all away when he started banning
the Keystone Xcel pipeline and so many other projects. Right,
Biden caused that problem. Biden caused the inflation. Look at
inflation rates today under my father versus inflation rates under
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Joe Biden. It's laughable that anybody could say that the
affordability crisis occurred under Donald Trump and not Joe Biden.
When you literally had the cost of everyday life go
up a compounding ten percent a year. It was over
forty percent over the four year period of time when
nominal wages were increasing like two percent a year. Right,
people are getting crammed down by twenty five thirty thirty
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five percent over that period of time where they were
losing grounds. The cost of everything was going like this,
and obviously wage growth was virtually stagnant. I find it
comical to say the least.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Eric Trump Number one New York Time's bestseller Under Siege
is his book, which I know so many of you
have gotten copies of it, but if you haven't, makes
a great present for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Eric.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know, we're coming into the end of the year
holiday season and there's a lot of talk, like I said,
about affordability, and people are gonna I'm sure we're going
to see the news reports on Monday Tuesday about the
cost of a Thanksgiving dinner now versus obviously under Biden,
the inflation for these dinners was was tremendous. Now Trump,
your dad's bringing this stuff down. But what is your
(25:29):
You're having to operate in the private sector in ways
that you have tremendous connectivity here at home and around
the world. What's your look ahead for the twenty twenty
six economy here at home? What are some of the
things that you think could really ignite the continuation of
a lot of the growth and a lot of the
good policy that we've seen, Like, what are you looking
(25:51):
at for twenty twenty six when it comes to the
costs of things, pocketbook issues, all that.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Buck, I've never been more bullish on on the future
of Eric. I mean, I mean that sincerely. You know,
if you look at what my father's doing on energy,
right he wants energy. He wants these SMRs, he wants
these nuclear reactors. Right, he's permitting them left and right.
He's saying, drill, baby, drill. He wants to have the
cheapest energy in the world. And why is that? Let
me let me just explain this to everybody. Energy costs
are directly correlated to GDP. The lower your energy costs,
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generally speaking, the higher your GDP costs are, and you
can track that for literally decades and decades around the world.
You keep low energy costs, you're gonna have high GDP.
That's especially true when you have things like like you know,
the crypto industries, the AI industries, industries that can transform,
you know, be transformational to an economy. Obviously, AI is
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that revolution. Crypto in terms of digital finance is that revolution.
Guess what they need? They need energy? So does manufacturing.
It needs it needs energy. We've got more energy under
our feet than any country anywhere in the world, and
we're finally exploiting that again, which is an amazing thing
for the United States of America. That's what pulls costs down.
You know, they say about fifty to sixty percent of
all in FLOT is the cost of energy because for
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every egg, for every gallon of milk for you know,
guess what you need to do. You need to transport that,
and transport and costs are expensive. And that's all based
you know, on oil and gas and ultimately energy. So
we're solving the energy. Second of all, look at bonus appreciation, right,
So my father put in one hundred percent bonus appreciation.
It means that every person who reinvest in their company,
reinvest in their business, is able to write it off
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you know, day one, year one. What that's going to
do in terms of the contracting space, what that's going
to do with in terms of inward investing in companies
in America is going to be transformational. Third of all,
look at the you know, the tax plan. The largest
tax breaks in the history of our country were put
in by by my father. Right, that's going to be
revolutionary for American competitiveness around the world, you know, at
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business owners. Fourth, look at the amount of inward investment
that's coming into our country. And look at what Saudi
Arabia is doing. Look at what all these countries are doing.
Literally trillions of dollars at this point, trillions and trillions
of dollars are coming in to the United States. And
that's before you even get to you know, he's going
out to every country saying, listen, aside from the fact,
I want you to invest two trillion dollars in the
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US or trillion dollars or eight hundred million dollars, I
want you to go out and I want you to
buy two hundred bowing aircraft. Right. I mean, he's literally
saving industries by by what he's what he's doing. Then
fifth you look at him, you know the tariffs, the
tariffs are working. It's hundreds and hundreds of billions of
dollars that are flowing back into this country based on tariffs,
based on the fact that everybody wants to and needs
(28:28):
to trade with the United States of America, which is
by far the world's largest economy at thirty two thirty
three trillion dollars. And guess what he's doing on the
opposice side. He's getting rid of all tariffs. He's getting
rid of all duties, which is allowing forward and allowing
all the you know, American companies to be able to
export their product overseas. The point of this story is,
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I've never been more bullish on the United States ever, before.
There's confidence in this country. There's respect around the world
for the United States of America. Everybody wants to be
part of a dollar. You see stable coins all around
the world that are peg to the US dollar. Trillions
of dollars are going to come into our economy based
on stable coins, based on the growth of cryptocurrencies, which
I believe in with every aspect of my heart and soul.
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Are our economy is going to boom? Are you going
to have volatility? Of course, you always have volatility in
every economy. But I think we are. You compare America
to Europe, it's not even close. You compare America to
just about any other region in the world. Fuck, it's
not even close. We're doing all the right things, and
we're doing them quickly and smartly, and America is ultimately
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going to win because of it. And there's never been
a time in my life where I've been more bullish
on the United States of America.
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Under Siege and Eric, thanks for coming by to hang out.
Good to see you as always.
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And I have a closing up shop for the day
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You know, we got to keep you guys guessing a
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Send us your talkbacks if you didn't get a chance already.
We'll rack and stack them in the next couple of days.
And we've got some here to get you. Randy, who
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is Randy from Tucson, Arizona? Play cc Hi.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Guys, it's Randy and Tucson.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
About approaching the opposite sex, I always taught my daughter
and my son. My daughter, if a guy asked you
to dance, you can dance one dance. Don't humiliate him
by saying no. I told my son. If you go
across the floor and ask a girl to dance, and
she's rude enough to refuse or decline, you are welcome
to say I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I didn't ask you
to dance. I said you look bad in those pants.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I like the twist at the end there. I didn't
see that one coming. Look, it's true, true that if
you are if you approach as this is for the guys,
and women can approach men to I know, and you
know that's fine, but generally guys approach women first, and
not enough guys are approaching women in person. Is a
big problem that is being talked about these days. It's
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all online now. Everything is sordid and algorithmed, and that's
where things go. But if you approach, if you're a
guy out there and you approach a woman and you
are polite and respectful, you know, you can make a
joke and you can be a little you know, you
can try to instigate a conversation. I'm not saying you
have to say, may I meet you? I would not
(33:37):
recommend that unless you say it like that. But if
she is, if she's nasty in response, because clearly which
thing is a guys, I think you are pretty and
I would like to talk to you, right, it's very straightforward,
like here, I am, I'm a guy. I like way,
I like the way you look. If a woman cannot
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be at least kind, even doesn't mean she has to
say yes and engaged, but she can't at least be
respectful and kind in that exchange, you was the guy
I just dodged a bullet that you're not wasting time
with her because it will. It does not get better.
It does not get better. Cruelty and indifference to other
people's feelings, if you see, that is really the biggest
(34:18):
of red flags in a lot of ways. And so
if someone's nasty to you or puts you down because
you just wanted to talk to them, you think of
it like you've dodged a bullet. You're lucky, you know,
you're lucky that she showed you who she really was
and what you're really dealing with. Ee. We had a
lot of women calling in, not giving their names, but
wanting to wait on This from Stamford, Connecticut, a woor
(34:41):
listener play it.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Regarding your story about pickup lines twenty years ago, I
had someone approach me in a bar and say, all
my friends want to date women that look like playboy models,
but I'd rather date someone who looks like you. It
was such a horrible line that I laughed and I
ended up going on a date with them. So I
think he was actually being his genuine stuff. I don't
think it was a pickup line. But anyway, he got
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a date out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well that's nice. You know, you gave him, you gave
him a shot. I don't think I would necessarily go
with that line, but it is is so it's in
the maybe it's so bad it's almost good category. So
and you gave him some credit? Didn't sound like I
feel as though if you had actually married that guy
or something, you would you would have said so. So
(35:27):
it sounds like he got one date out of it.
Not bad, all right. The breaking news, I might add,
is that the House has voted just now, just a
few moments ago, to force the release of the Epstein files.
So and now the bill is going to go to
the Senate side. The bill was passed four hundred and
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twenty seven to one. The only no vote was Representative
Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican. Okay, she's the one guy
four hundred and twenty seven to one to release the
Epstein file. So now it goes to the Senate. I
think this is gonna go I think this is going through.
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Trump says he wants it to go through. So who
wants to be on the Senate side blocking this? But
we'll see so you may get some real Epstein transparency,
additional transparency here. I'm in favor of transparency. They should
have done this before. I don't think there will be
any bombshells in it, just it doesn't matter when I think.
Let's see right. But I'm just telling you, I'm trying
(36:30):
to prep you for this. I don't think there's gonna
be any bombshells in it, but we'll see what happened.
We'll see what happens. As Trump would say, we're looking
at it. We're looking at it. So Dennis talkbacks and emails,
we'll get more of them tomorrow. You're all fantastic. I
appreciate you hanging out with me today, and it will
be the buckstir a one with you tomorrow and until then,
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here. Immigration, big issue, very important,
illegal immigration and legal immigration. Actually conversations to be had
about all of this right now given the Trump agenda.
The border, as he had mentioned just a little while
(00:23):
ago with the Saudi Crown Prince in the Oval office,
border is very secure. I don't know if it's the
most secure. You know, they got a pretty secure border
between North and South Korea, but yeah, I get his point.
It's a very secure border now, and compared to what
it was, it's a remarkable transformation. And we should never
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lose sight of the fact that a secure border was
always possible, but the Democrats didn't want it, and in
fact chose to make it insecure, wide open. In fact,
that is what occurred, and Trump has proven that in
very short, very short order, within a few months of
(01:06):
taking office, it all changed. And so all those reporters,
all those Democrats who pretended under Biden's wide open border
policies that it was just beyond the capabilities of the
United States government to do something about it, they were
(01:26):
lying to you. They were lying to you. Please do
not forget that, because there's a lot of work to
be done. Still on immigration, the H one B issue,
which is about reforming a legal component of immigration. But
let's still stay focused here for a bit. On the
illegal immigration issue. We had around ten million. We don't
(01:49):
even know the exact number. We don't know how many
came in under Biden. We don't know how many are
here total. Nobody does, and anyone who says otherwise again
lying to you. So we had ten million come in
under Biden, which there are illegals in this country who
have been here for a short period of time, completely unvetted,
no idea who they are, and we, the American people,
have had enough of this. Solid majority of Americans want
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illegals who came here under Biden to be sent back
to their home country, which is a This is a
just outcome. We're not arguing in favor of solitary confinement
for ten years for every illegal came here. I understand
vast majority of them not bad people at all. They
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want a better life for themselves than their kids. I
bear for those illegals, I don't bear them any ill will,
but they aren't allowed to stay here. There's a different thing.
I don't have a problem with them as individuals, as
human beings, and I saw what the Catholic Conference of Bishops,
and you know, I'm trying to be more active in
(02:57):
my Catholic faith in the last couple of years, well
obviously coinciding as well with my son's birth. I think
it is very important that he grow up in a
household that at some level is practicing it's Christian faith,
not just believing and not just knowing, but active in
our church and Catholic Church at least in an a
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Christian faith at a minimum. I saw what the Catholic
bishops put out there, and it's just, yeah, I won't
get into this now. Other then I think there's a lot,
a lot of work to be done inside the Catholic
Church and the way that it has been brought so
far to the left. These bishops have nothing to say
about abortion everywhere at all times, on demand and blue
(03:37):
states and abortion and pro abortion politicians, and they pro
transagenda politicians and for trans kids. All this nothing to
say about that, only open borders. This is when this
is when it's too far for them. Very frustrating, very frustrating,
because in a modern American society, as we in our
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modern American society. Presence equals the state giving them things
that they take from Americans that are rightfully that rightfully
belong to Americans, and that are taken from us under
the threat of force. If I don't pay my taxes,
in fact, if I don't even if I don't pay
my taxes, I go to prison. If I don't pay
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my healthcare premiums, I don't have access to private healthcare.
And I'm paying for all the emergency room visits with
my tax dollars for all these illegals they're taking from
there's a theft that occurs. A theft is occurring on
a massive scale by the presence of these illegals, and
it is a theft that people need to understand in
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the most clear terms and that this must be addressed
by the administration. In fact, JD Vance, this has cut twelve.
So this ties into a lot, ties into the jobs issue,
ties into the tax issue, ties into the housing issue.
And here is JD Vance on the issue of home
affordability and illegals, Plate twelve.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive. Why is that because we flooded the country
with thirty million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that
ought by right go to American citizens. And at the
same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with,
even for the population that we had. So what we're
doing is trying to make it easier to build houses,
(05:23):
trying to make it easier to build factories and things
like that so that people have good jobs. We're also
getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,
and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividend.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No matter what Democrats say, no matter what these civilization
undermining pro illegal alien NGOs do and say, Supply and
demand is a real thing. It's a real thing when
it comes to the labor market. It's a real thing.
(05:55):
When it comes to the housing market. It's always real,
it's always operating. It's just a question of how much
state interference is there, how much subterfuge is there in
the market. But people need places to live, they need
to pay for them. The prices are being set. And
in this case here let me get let me give
(06:17):
you just a particularly clear example, and this is short
term housing hotels New York City. I'm gonna be visiting
my family next week in New York. It has not.
People keep even hat people say to me like, has
Mam Donnie ruined it again? I'm like, well, he's not
mayor yet, so we gotta we gotta take a moment.
You know, it comes mayor, I think a little later.
(06:39):
But here, here we have New York City with its
housing prices and it's which are sky high. But also
which is how Mamdani of course rode this issue into
the Mayor's office. But then you have on top of
that the hotels in New York City. Hotels are are
(07:00):
wildly expensive. And I know this because I'm looking at
the hotel bills for next week and I went, oh,
my gosh, hotels are wildly expensive in New York. It
was the case. I'm not sure what it is right now,
but in the last few years that migrants at taxpayer expense,
we're taking up twenty percent, twenty to twenty five percent.
I think it was of the hotel rooms in the
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five boroughs of New York City. That's a huge portion
of them. When you take twenty five percent off the
table for those of us who are not government subsidized
and not having someone else pay for it, what happens.
Price goes up more people want the same amount of
goods that are there, the price goes up. So if
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that applies in New York City, and it most certainly
does the same way that the thirty percent of illegals
using all hotel I'm sorry, all er visits right, the
same way that those individuals create longer waits and more
expensive care for everybody else. Supply and demand, there's always
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a cost. There is no free lunch. I mean, some
people have a free lunch, but it's not free for everybody, right,
somebody else is paying for that lunch. That's why there
can't be a free lunch. Someone's paying, and it's you,
and many of us have become tired of how much
of that is going on when it comes to illegal
aliens in the millions in this country. And there's also
(08:32):
the issue of when do we have too many illegals
and when do we have too many recent arrivals for
assimilation to function the way that it needs to in
any society. Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, And it's not
just because I live here. Look, Governor DeSantis is a
big part of why I moved here because of what
he was doing in this state. He i think is
(08:55):
the best governor still in America. I've never experienced this before,
and I joke around with my family members about this.
I used to just always have to tell myself, I
lived in New York, all right, you know, the political leadership,
although there were some good mayors, there were some good mayors,
but at the state level, a lot a lot of bozo,
a lot of dumb stuff being done at that are Well,
i still love New York, even if the leadership is dumb.
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Now I'm in Florida and I get to say, wow,
this is a great state. I'm really enjoying my life here.
And the leadership does smart things that they should do,
and they even think of smart things to do that
I hadn't thought of. That's what it is to be
in a state with intelligent, conservative, realistic, sane governance. Now,
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you know, some of you really like Texas, you really
like Tennessee, you really like whatever in red state governor
you have some of you in Utah. Well, I've heard it.
I've heard. I've heard some mixed reviews about how you
feel about your state governance. You love your state, but
I've heard I'm just saying, we have a huge salt
Lake City audience. I was out in Utah not long
(10:00):
and I heard you know, you love Utah, but the
Utah leadership, I hear some things a little mixed, a
little mixed review. But DeSantis weighed in on the illegal
immigrant issue. And here he is, and he's just saying
something that needs to be said. It is possible to
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take in too many foreigners too quickly, and we need
to be realistic about that as a country, because at
some level, a country is an idea. It is lines
on a map that only can exist because there is
a sense of a political nation, family of people, a
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bond that exists between us as Americans. It's a very complicated,
it really interesting thing, isn't it the notion of this nation, state,
of this American family that you and I you know,
you may have grown up in Washington State, or you
may have grown up in college and I grew up
in New York City, and that there's something that holds us.
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There are things that hold us together. We have all
this shared belief, all this shared sense of destiny and
purpose as Americans. We have to protect that and preserve
that it isn't just a guarantee. In fact, countries fall apart.
They have civil wars, they have secession movements, they have breakages.
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In that polity, the Greeks would have called it right
in that political family. And Ron DeSantis says, look, what
if you bring ten million people into ten million people
from Somalia into Georgia, would that be a good idea
play cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You have some strain on the right the son and no,
illegal immigration is bad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Legal immigration, no matter what, is good.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And wait a minute, now, I'm not saying any of
it's that it's all bad or what. But is bringing
ten million people from like Somalia in dumping them into
Georgia is that good because it's legal? I think you
have to think critically about what are we doing with
an immigration policy and is it benefiting the American people?
Is it helping to promote a strong American culture.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We should never bring people.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Into this country who hate America.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
We have to be smart.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's lazy thinking to say anything that's legal must necessarily
be good.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Critical And this is the next level of this discussion.
This is where this is all going. Now. It's not
just illegal immigration that needs a good long look. We've
had a lot of legal immigration. We've changed this country
faster with foreigners than at any time in our history,
more than the Ellis Island era, more than the period
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of the settlers, more than any time. Okay, we have
had massive transformation. Now a lot of them, A lot
of people come here become great Americans. I live here
in South Florida head. It's funny because I, through my
study of authoritarianism and communismsally, I just have this inherent
fondness and kinship with Venezuelan Americans and Cuban Americans who
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are right wing and hate communism, like we just have.
I just have this bond. I they think how I think,
and we so. Yes, it can work and it's a
beautiful thing, and it is part of the story of
American I get all of that. But there has to
be a real conversation about have we done too much
of this thing? You know, you drink too much water,
you die. You know that that's a truth. That's a
(13:30):
real thing. You can actually die. You need water to live.
Water is not bad. Too much water too fast, guys,
I think it's called like hypa natremia or something. Check
me on this one. But it's when you get the
sodium levels get thrown off. It happens to elite athletes sometimes,
and like super marathons or ultra marathons, you could water
can kill you if there's too much of it. Drinking it,
(13:52):
I mean, obviously you can drown in it, but drinking
too much water. It is possible that too much of
what is otherwise a good thing or a valid thing.
Have we had too much legal immigration too quickly in
this country. This is not to disparage anyone who's come
here legally. We love our American legal immigrants, and you know,
but the number has gotten really big and we do
have to draw a line somewhere, and maybe it's time
(14:14):
to like, you know, cozy up with our fellow Americans
for a while here and have some continuity, some sense
of assimilation, some sense of our shared americanness. That is
a because if you look at previous periods of migration
to America, there was a surge and then things calm
(14:34):
down for a while and we let things settle. There
was a surge and then we get it is only
in this era where we've done. We're just blown the
hinges off the doors. Everyone's coming, everyone's coming illegally. You know,
it's a free for all, then it's supposed to continue
this way in perpetuity. Ron knows Ron de scentists, the
governor knows that's crazy. No country can be the country
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All right, welcome back in here team. We're gonna be
joined in a few minutes by our friend Eric Trump,
who runs a Trump organization, and well is Eric Trump?
You know what he is, and talk to him about
everything going on today. Also, just a little quick I
was correct. I should never doubt myself on these matters.
Hypo netremia a condition where excess water dilutes the body's
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sodium levels. In severe cases can lead to brain damage
or even be life threatening. So you know, I like
to point this out to people that you need water
or you will die, but way too much water can
also kill you. So we you know, some immigration, when
Trump's talking about the very specific H one B and
not I think the one or something where you have
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that's a super special skills thing. But the H one
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Semiconductor manufact TSMC for example. Yeah, we maybe there are
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and a lot of data and accounting and firms like that,
give me a break, right, So it is possible to
have too much of something that we even otherwise need
or otherwise as harmless. And that's why I taught we
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All right, Welcome back in everybody, Eric, who is executive
president of the Vice president of the Trump Organization joins us. Now,
he's got a great book out Under Siege, and it
has been number one, number one for many, many weeks.
(19:12):
It's a great book. Highly recommend it to you. Also,
the name of a wonderful movie, as we discussed last time,
Steven Seagal's best Eric. Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, last time you thought it was John Claud van Dam,
But what was Steven Skall? Now, uh, listen, we've come
along way since then. We were number one New York
Times bestseller. We're number one every week on Amazon. We've
We've done an unbelievable job. And this country's pissed off.
My friend, I think you know that better than anybody.
But this country is severely pissed off. And and I
think that's why you know it ran the charts as
hard as it did, and it's why it's doing as
(19:42):
well as it is.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I would tell you this, my friend, I think he
was play who messed up Jean Claude, Ven de m
and h Steven Sagall because I would never never mess
up in our eighties action lore, that's a that's a clay.
I'm throwing clay. Right under the bus.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Off, throw Clay under the buss. I'm pretty I'm pretty
sure it was.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm taking this whispering angel chardonnay drinking, you know, fancy
fellow throwing him on the bus. Anyway, he sends his regards.
By the way, he's on a he's on a super
secret mission which we will only be able to tell
the audience about I think later on the week. But
he's abroad right now. But let me let me just
ask you about this, because you know your your your
dad today was President United States, was in the Oval
(20:22):
office with the Saudi Crown Prince, and the questions from
the reporters, and one in particular really intended to just
be attacks, not even really questions, you know, very much
in the when did you stop beating your wife category
of questions, and President Trump had just had just had enough.
I gotta say, I hear that. I see a lot
(20:42):
of other people hear that, and they think, yeah, I
actually don't think the president should sit there and just
take abuse from journalists.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, he's not good at taking abuse from journalists, and
he's he's certainly at the point in his life where
he doesn't need to. In fact, some of those interactions
are some of the most comical interactions you'll you'll ever see.
And you know, and in the media always portrays themselves
as jokers. They have this entire time. I mean, look
at sixty minutes, right, look at look at Leslie's stall.
You know, you know, my father goes out, they're spying
(21:15):
on my campaign. They're not spying on your and then
sure enough, guess what we find out that they're spying
on the campaign. And look at you know, CNN every
single day, and look at the questions that they ask
and every single time they ask a question, everything that
my father says is proven to be correct. And yet
they continue to go down these narratives, right, I mean,
look at the New York Times with their Pulitzer prizes
for the Russia hoax. It was a hoax. They you know,
(21:38):
they let it run for a three year period of time,
and then it came out those a hoax. They won't
give back their Pulitzer prizes. But yet they've raided my
father every single day. Look at all the sham indictments
and trials in New York where every single day, you know,
they said my father was going to jail, They said
that you know, he was good, he was the worst human.
And guess what, every single one of those lawsuits got
(21:58):
got overturned, right, every single one of those indictments got
overturned in the court system. And so you know, the
point of the narrative is our media in this country
doesn't have a whole lot of credibility. The trust in
our media in this country is single digits, right, No
one likes them, no one trusts them. They normally conduct
themselves like absolute fools. And as why American people don't
like them, don't watch them, and it's why independent voice
(22:20):
like yours is doing so well well.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know, on this issue of the critics of the
administration of your dad and the team he has around
him in the cabinet, it's pretty remarkable to me. You know,
you run your the executive vice president of the Trump organization.
You've been operating in the world of international business dealings
and at a scale with you know, big dollar figures,
(22:44):
a lot of employees, a lot of productivity, a lot
of things going on. The voices that I hear attacking
Trump from the left, the Democrat Party, attacking this administration
on affordability, on things like housing, I just have to laugh.
These people. You know, this is the the AOC Mamdannie wing.
They don't know a darn thing about how to build anything,
(23:05):
what it costs, what it means to actually create product
for people like homes to live in, and yet they're
the experts on this, I mean, this strain of Mamdannism.
It's just going to drive you nuts as part of
a family of builders.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You know what it drives me to nuts is actually,
under Joe Biden, you had you know, four years of
ten percent plus inflation in this country right. That means
every two by four at home depot is more expensive.
I mean, housing prices literally doubled. And that's because of massive,
massive inflation. Guess who that benefits. That doesn't benefit you know,
the lower middle classes. That benefits people that have assets.
(23:38):
And yet they're talking about affordability now, so you mean
to tell me ten percent compound in every single year.
You remember energy prices, you know, Bucky, you remember the
little stickers that said I did that and it's a
picture of Joe Biden's face and everybody was putting them
on the gas prices. You know, gas pumps all over
the country right when energy costs became some of the
most expensive in history. When you know, America stopped exporting energy, right,
(24:02):
they became dependent on other countries for energy, even though
we were totally energy sufficient under my father's first term,
and he gave it all away when he started banning
the Keystone Xcel pipeline and so many other projects. Right,
Biden caused that problem. Biden caused the inflation. Look at
inflation rates today under my father versus inflation rates under
(24:23):
Joe Biden. It's laughable that anybody could say that the
affordability crisis occurred under Donald Trump and not Joe Biden.
When you literally had the cost of everyday life go
up a compounding ten percent a year. It was over
forty percent over the four year period of time when
nominal wages were increasing like two percent a year. Right,
people are getting crammed down by twenty five thirty thirty
(24:46):
five percent over that period of time where they were
losing grounds. The cost of everything was going like this,
and obviously wage growth was virtually stagnant. I find it
comical to say the least.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Eric Trump Number one New York Time's bestseller Under Siege
is his book, which I know so many of you
have gotten copies of it, but if you haven't, makes
a great present for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Eric.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know, we're coming into the end of the year
holiday season and there's a lot of talk, like I said,
about affordability, and people are gonna I'm sure we're going
to see the news reports on Monday Tuesday about the
cost of a Thanksgiving dinner now versus obviously under Biden,
the inflation for these dinners was was tremendous. Now Trump,
your dad's bringing this stuff down. But what is your
(25:29):
You're having to operate in the private sector in ways
that you have tremendous connectivity here at home and around
the world. What's your look ahead for the twenty twenty
six economy here at home? What are some of the
things that you think could really ignite the continuation of
a lot of the growth and a lot of the
good policy that we've seen, Like, what are you looking
(25:51):
at for twenty twenty six when it comes to the
costs of things, pocketbook issues, all that.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Buck, I've never been more bullish on on the future
of Eric. I mean, I mean that sincerely. You know,
if you look at what my father's doing on energy,
right he wants energy. He wants these SMRs, he wants
these nuclear reactors. Right, he's permitting them left and right.
He's saying, drill, baby, drill. He wants to have the
cheapest energy in the world. And why is that? Let
me let me just explain this to everybody. Energy costs
are directly correlated to GDP. The lower your energy costs,
(26:19):
generally speaking, the higher your GDP costs are, and you
can track that for literally decades and decades around the world.
You keep low energy costs, you're gonna have high GDP.
That's especially true when you have things like like you know,
the crypto industries, the AI industries, industries that can transform,
you know, be transformational to an economy. Obviously, AI is
(26:39):
that revolution. Crypto in terms of digital finance is that revolution.
Guess what they need? They need energy? So does manufacturing.
It needs it needs energy. We've got more energy under
our feet than any country anywhere in the world, and
we're finally exploiting that again, which is an amazing thing
for the United States of America. That's what pulls costs down.
You know, they say about fifty to sixty percent of
all in FLOT is the cost of energy because for
(27:02):
every egg, for every gallon of milk for you know,
guess what you need to do. You need to transport that,
and transport and costs are expensive. And that's all based
you know, on oil and gas and ultimately energy. So
we're solving the energy. Second of all, look at bonus appreciation, right,
So my father put in one hundred percent bonus appreciation.
It means that every person who reinvest in their company,
reinvest in their business, is able to write it off
(27:24):
you know, day one, year one. What that's going to
do in terms of the contracting space, what that's going
to do with in terms of inward investing in companies
in America is going to be transformational. Third of all,
look at the you know, the tax plan. The largest
tax breaks in the history of our country were put
in by by my father. Right, that's going to be
revolutionary for American competitiveness around the world, you know, at
(27:47):
business owners. Fourth, look at the amount of inward investment
that's coming into our country. And look at what Saudi
Arabia is doing. Look at what all these countries are doing.
Literally trillions of dollars at this point, trillions and trillions
of dollars are coming in to the United States. And
that's before you even get to you know, he's going
out to every country saying, listen, aside from the fact,
I want you to invest two trillion dollars in the
(28:07):
US or trillion dollars or eight hundred million dollars, I
want you to go out and I want you to
buy two hundred bowing aircraft. Right. I mean, he's literally
saving industries by by what he's what he's doing. Then
fifth you look at him, you know the tariffs, the
tariffs are working. It's hundreds and hundreds of billions of
dollars that are flowing back into this country based on tariffs,
based on the fact that everybody wants to and needs
(28:28):
to trade with the United States of America, which is
by far the world's largest economy at thirty two thirty
three trillion dollars. And guess what he's doing on the
opposice side. He's getting rid of all tariffs. He's getting
rid of all duties, which is allowing forward and allowing
all the you know, American companies to be able to
export their product overseas. The point of this story is,
(28:49):
I've never been more bullish on the United States ever, before.
There's confidence in this country. There's respect around the world
for the United States of America. Everybody wants to be
part of a dollar. You see stable coins all around
the world that are peg to the US dollar. Trillions
of dollars are going to come into our economy based
on stable coins, based on the growth of cryptocurrencies, which
I believe in with every aspect of my heart and soul.
(29:12):
Are our economy is going to boom? Are you going
to have volatility? Of course, you always have volatility in
every economy. But I think we are. You compare America
to Europe, it's not even close. You compare America to
just about any other region in the world. Fuck, it's
not even close. We're doing all the right things, and
we're doing them quickly and smartly, and America is ultimately
(29:34):
going to win because of it. And there's never been
a time in my life where I've been more bullish
on the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Eric Trump, everybody go get a copy of his book
Under Siege and Eric, thanks for coming by to hang out.
Good to see you as always.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Thanks Buck.
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Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I have a closing up shop for the day
here on Clay and Buck. Just me Buck for the
next few days. Maybe clearly back Friday, I don't know.
It was top secret mission, very exciting things going on,
top secret vision. Last time I did a top secret
maybe well, I guess it wasn't secret. But I went
to Taiwan to meet with the president there and learn
everything I could about the China Taiwan situation and US
(31:40):
relationship with Taiwan. Clay is also being an international man
of mystery, and that is all I am allowed to
say about it. Right now. We got to keep you
on your toes. You know, we can't. We can't become
these two predictable guys walking around with our new balanced sneakers,
our cargo shorts, our fanny packs and our dad sunglasses on.
You know, we got to keep you guys guessing a
(32:01):
little bit. So yeah, but he'll be back definitely Monday,
if not Friday, and so it'll be me tomorrow and
Thursday for sure. So send us lave I love talkbacks.
Send us your talkbacks if you didn't get a chance already.
We'll rack and stack them in the next couple of days.
And we've got some here to get you. Randy, who
(32:23):
is Randy from Tucson, Arizona? Play cc Hi.
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Guys, it's Randy and Tucson.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
About approaching the opposite sex, I always taught my daughter
and my son. My daughter, if a guy asked you
to dance, you can dance one dance. Don't humiliate him
by saying no. I told my son. If you go
across the floor and ask a girl to dance, and
she's rude enough to refuse or decline, you are welcome
to say I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I didn't ask you
to dance. I said you look bad in those pants.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I like the twist at the end there. I didn't
see that one coming. Look, it's true, true that if
you are if you approach as this is for the guys,
and women can approach men to I know, and you
know that's fine, but generally guys approach women first, and
not enough guys are approaching women in person. Is a
big problem that is being talked about these days. It's
(33:16):
all online now. Everything is sordid and algorithmed, and that's
where things go. But if you approach, if you're a
guy out there and you approach a woman and you
are polite and respectful, you know, you can make a
joke and you can be a little you know, you
can try to instigate a conversation. I'm not saying you
have to say, may I meet you? I would not
(33:37):
recommend that unless you say it like that. But if
she is, if she's nasty in response, because clearly which
thing is a guys, I think you are pretty and
I would like to talk to you, right, it's very straightforward,
like here, I am, I'm a guy. I like way,
I like the way you look. If a woman cannot
(33:58):
be at least kind, even doesn't mean she has to
say yes and engaged, but she can't at least be
respectful and kind in that exchange, you was the guy
I just dodged a bullet that you're not wasting time
with her because it will. It does not get better.
It does not get better. Cruelty and indifference to other
people's feelings, if you see, that is really the biggest
(34:18):
of red flags in a lot of ways. And so
if someone's nasty to you or puts you down because
you just wanted to talk to them, you think of
it like you've dodged a bullet. You're lucky, you know,
you're lucky that she showed you who she really was
and what you're really dealing with. Ee. We had a
lot of women calling in, not giving their names, but
wanting to wait on This from Stamford, Connecticut, a woor
(34:41):
listener play it.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Regarding your story about pickup lines twenty years ago, I
had someone approach me in a bar and say, all
my friends want to date women that look like playboy models,
but I'd rather date someone who looks like you. It
was such a horrible line that I laughed and I
ended up going on a date with them. So I
think he was actually being his genuine stuff. I don't
think it was a pickup line. But anyway, he got
(35:03):
a date out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well that's nice. You know, you gave him, you gave
him a shot. I don't think I would necessarily go
with that line, but it is is so it's in
the maybe it's so bad it's almost good category. So
and you gave him some credit? Didn't sound like I
feel as though if you had actually married that guy
or something, you would you would have said so. So
(35:27):
it sounds like he got one date out of it.
Not bad, all right. The breaking news, I might add,
is that the House has voted just now, just a
few moments ago, to force the release of the Epstein files.
So and now the bill is going to go to
the Senate side. The bill was passed four hundred and
(35:47):
twenty seven to one. The only no vote was Representative
Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican. Okay, she's the one guy
four hundred and twenty seven to one to release the
Epstein file. So now it goes to the Senate. I
think this is gonna go I think this is going through.
(36:09):
Trump says he wants it to go through. So who
wants to be on the Senate side blocking this? But
we'll see so you may get some real Epstein transparency,
additional transparency here. I'm in favor of transparency. They should
have done this before. I don't think there will be
any bombshells in it, just it doesn't matter when I think.
Let's see right. But I'm just telling you, I'm trying
(36:30):
to prep you for this. I don't think there's gonna
be any bombshells in it, but we'll see what happened.
We'll see what happens. As Trump would say, we're looking
at it. We're looking at it. So Dennis talkbacks and emails,
we'll get more of them tomorrow. You're all fantastic. I
appreciate you hanging out with me today, and it will
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