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January 14, 2025 36 mins
Thank you, Rep. Jim Jordan, for fighting censorship and defending free speech. Don Lemon loses it. Rep. Mazie Hirono is proof we aren’t represented by the best and brightest. Elon, Zuck, and Bezos are attending the inauguration together. Bring back the Sax! Clay shades the flute again.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the Tuesday edition of the program, we are scheduled
to be joined by our buddy, Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio.
He has been in the news a great deal and
I think he and his team and we know his

(00:21):
team well, and I know they listened to the show often,
So let me just take a moment here to say
thank you. I'm not sure there are very many congressmen
or staffs that have been more instrumental in fighting for
free speech online than what Jim Jordan and his team
have done working tirelessly the Facebook decision. It doesn't happen

(00:43):
in a vacuum. Remember, Mark Zuckerberg wrote the letter to
Jim Jordan laying out exactly the censorship demands that had
come from the Biden administration because Jim Jordan's committee had
been investing investigating all of these censorship related charges. I
know personally I first met Jim Jordan in twenty twenty one.

(01:08):
In person, I believe I remember correctly when I testified
in front of his subcommittee about censorship that I had
seen in media, and it was what they were doing
was shining a bright light on something that was trying
to be hidden. And I believe that Elon Musk buying

(01:29):
Twitter slash x Mark Zuckerberg suddenly opening up and ending
the fact checking and the censorship regime that had been
prevalent online. I think all of that occurring is to
a large degree partially creditable to Jim Jordan. So he's
going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
We have been talking about the Pete hegseth hearings, the

(01:50):
first confirmation hearing of a cabinet nominee for Donald Trump.
It is now complete. The reactions are rolling in, and
most of their reactions suggests that Pete hegset did a
pretty phenomenal job and as well on his way to
being the next Defense secretary. This is important, as you

(02:12):
well know, Buck, because Democrats will smell sense blood in
the water, and when they do, it doesn't end. It's
not like they're going to say, Okay, well, Pete hegset
didn't get confirmed.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're fine with everybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
If they can chop down Hegseith, then they will go
after RFK Junior. Then they will go after Tulsea Gabbard,
then they will go after Cash Pattel. I'm not sure
that's the order they would go, but I am telling
you that is the continued chopping block that they would
attempt to undertake. And it is very significant that they're

(02:45):
not be one guy or gal left behind that would
be able to create a scenario like this.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So we are.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Breaking down everything having to do with that. A lot
of you wanting to weigh in my brilliant recollection of
Gary hart Buck. Too young of a whipper snapper to
have any recollection of that at all. We are continuing
as well to follow the La wildfires, but I wanted
to have some fun with you, Buck, because I meant
to play this yesterday and then we ended up in

(03:16):
such a chaotic situation with following along with the wildfires
and you being stuck in traffic.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Are good, buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Don Lemon absolutely lost himself because he was so angry
about your boys at morning Joe being friendly to Trump,
and he's angry now at Obama for smiling too much
at the Jimmy Carter funeral.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Don Lemon, who.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Has basically no audience now, Buck, I mean the guys
off CNN and nobody pay attention to him. He throws
a complete temper tantrum. Here is cut twenty five, CNN's
former Don Lemon, until he got fired to a large
extent for saying that Nikki Haley was pastor prime. The
people have forgotten about that cut twenty five.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
If someone disrespects my loved one, I don't have to
smile in their face and they're going to know it.
If Ted Cruz can't stand up for his wife that
Donald Trump calls ugly, then who is he going to
stand up for?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now? Listen, it could be were you guys could be right.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Barack Obama's classic is a classic guy. But these are
the very same maga people who have called and Donald
Trump has helped promote.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Calling Michelle Obama a man. I'm not smiling in your face.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
If you're calling my sister or my mother or my
wife or girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
A man, you.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Don woman on one buck he look, look, look, look
he The fact that he was a multimillion dollar year
primetime anchor at CNN as long as he was is
just a remarkable testament to what a what a dumpster
fire CEA and then had become. You know, there's a

(05:03):
lot of people who really built their entire career for
the last eight years around Trump hatred, and they ended
up boxing themselves into a corner. I mean, they created
this reality where now what do they have to say.
They told us that Hitler would be president if Trump won,
and clearly that's not the case, and there's nothing for

(05:25):
them to add to the conversation. So I think they're
just particularly upset about the lack of relevancy. And also
they went all in, right, they threw all of their
collective it's kind of like a collective hissy fit from
the media to try to stop Donald Trump, and the
failure of that was a reality check. I think for

(05:47):
a lot of the people from these different networks who
had come to believe that they were important, that they
were wise, that their opinions matter, and they don't and
they're not. And there's still a lot of processing. I
think that's the that's the kind of psychotherapy term, right,
there's a lot of processing of this that needs to
go on for them. And Don Lemon is among them.

(06:08):
I don't think that he has I don't know why
anyone listened to this guy ever, Honestly, it was he
was a creation of Jeff Zucker and CNN uh in
terms of the brand and everything else. I don't know
why anyone listens to the guy. Remember when he was
gonna be on X and Elon, Oh yeah, and he
decided to go after Elon when Elon was trying to,
you know, throw him a lifeline.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think it's so interesting in many respects here. First
of all, if anything, Trump is the one who should
have the grievance. They called him Hitler and encouraged people
because of that to try to kill him.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is my opinion.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
When you brand someone as Hitler, the natural reaction, and
you certainly saw this from the guy in Florida who
tried to kill him, the natural reaction is, we've got
to kill Hitler. The one who is actually turning the
other cheek. To me, is Trump?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now? Politics a dirty business.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
People say, particularly staff, nasty things about each other, and
then at the end of the campaign. I understand some
people hold grudges. I'm not really a grudge guy. I'm
always kind of looking forward as opposed to looking back.
Generally speaking, I think that's what you can say about Trump.

(07:29):
Trump is, and we've talked about this on the show.
Buck uniquely among politicians. It seems to me able to
forgive truly awful things that people have said about him
in the past and move on in the forward once
they come around and say, you know what, I kind
of screwed that up.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Look at jad Vance.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Jd Vance called Trump America's version of Hitler seven or
eight years ago. Now, to jd Vance's credit, this was
back in like fifteen sixteen, whatever it was. And then
he saw how Trump did as president and renounced that opinion.
But Trump picked him as a VP. I think a
lot of people would not have done that because they

(08:11):
would have been angry about it. And they mentioned Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz went off on Trump, called him a unique
threat to America. I give credit to Cruz in Trump
because they had a great relationship and they both worked
for the betterment of America. And Ted Cruz is said
on this program, I think I had a choice. I
could marinate in forever a grudge world, or I could

(08:35):
sack up and recognize that he's president of the United States.
I'm the Senator from Texas. There's a lot of good
work we can do. So don Lemon, to your point,
is not a smart man, does not have interesting opinions,
is not particularly intriguing or captivating in any way when
it comes to media analysis. But I actually think his

(08:57):
take is completely reversed. Trump is the guy who would
have been well versed, I think, to turn his back
on people. Instead, he tends to shake hands and be
cordial in person.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Look at what he.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Did at that Al Smith dinner. The whole rosterum up
there had basically wanted to put him in prison. He
showed up and told jokes and was actually pretty fantastic.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
It's Trump who has taken the full force of the
democrats hysteria and taken it largely in stride. Hasn't really
broken his mood or his approach to anything. And when
you look at where things have gone now and where
they were but a few years ago, it's an incredible story.

(09:39):
And I think that right now they recognize that there's
nothing for them really to do other than to wait
and see what Trump is going to do. This is
now his chapter of the book. He's writing this one
right now. They are observed. The Democrats have been forced
into observer status right now. They are not the main player.

(10:00):
They're not the main character in this drama. And even
they recognize it in this moment. I think that that
really unsettles them. I think that makes them feel like,
what is their purpose? It's not public service, right, Their
purpose is always really some form of showy narcissism. And

(10:20):
this time around that's not going to get it done.
Donald Trump has the backing of the people, has the
backing of this election, and I think that there's for
people in the media in particular, there's just a sense
of I mean, look, I tried to watch Morning Joe.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
This word it's so boring. Yeah, I don't know. I
thought we were getting hitler Morning Joe. What happened?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I turned off for five minutes. I can't even they've
lost me, Clay, When Morning Joe has lost me as
a viewer, what else do you have to know?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, to your point, also, the headset protesters, it's like
they're throwing in the towel. They got a bunch of
loser protesters. I mean, I'm not saying the Handmaid's Tale
chicks were my cup of tea, but they took over
a Senate hearing for Amy cony Er, and it was
a theatrical presentation associated with what I think is a

(11:05):
crazy argument. They were trying to make but it at
least mobilized a lot of people. Remember when Jeff Flake
was getting confronted trying to get on the elevator, and
you had all of the drama surrounding the Kavanaugh hearings
as well, they got like four old people who just
look out of sorts to protest Pete Hegseth. By and large,

(11:28):
it just kind of looks pathetic, you know. It's like
remember that scene. There's a great scene in Succession back
in the Day, which is a really really funny show,
and one of the characters talks about how it's actually
embarrassing when there aren't more protesters, because if you show up,
there's like one or two protesters, so you kind of
feel sorry for them because they're not making much noise

(11:49):
and you kind of just want to go over and
say sorry, guys, Like it actually just kind of looks pathetic.
It's it's kind of the pathetic resistance right now. There's
not any I mean, at least when they put on
their vagiany hats and ran around in the city screaming
about how Trump was going to destroy the world, it
was kind of hard to look away, like, what are
they even doing.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Now, That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
We've entered a period here where I don't think there
aren'ty vagina hats coming forward at this inauguration.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
What are they doing? What are the vagina hat chicks doing?
I don't know, you know, maybe they're on bumble trying
to get a date. I don't know. Maybe they've turned
over another leaf or something. Maybe they voted for Trump,
maybe they got married and ended up pregnant. Voting for Trump.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
They found some toxic masculine alpha male and they kind
of they kind of like when he's you know, cutting
wood in the yard and telling them that it's a
you know, dinner time. Uh yeah, I gotta say, I
think that the Democrats are look there, they're a party
looking for a message.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 4 (14:06):
One of the good things about watching this hearing up
on Capitol Hill with these senators is that if you
have any sense of, oh my gosh, senators must be impressive,
you are disabused of that notion many times over by
seeing the way that these United States Senators, a number.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Of them comport themselves. Mazie Herono, though, is really in.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
A class by herself. I mean, she is a particular
case study. She is a senator from Hawaii why very
beautiful place, unfortunately very left wing politics, And here she
is just questioning Pete egsat that I want you to
hear that this is a US senator and she thinks

(14:56):
that she should spend her time on this play.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Would you use smell our military to take over Greenland
or an ally of Denmark?

Speaker 7 (15:09):
Senator?

Speaker 8 (15:09):
One of the things that President Trump is so good
at is never strategically tipping his hand, and so I
would never in this public forum give one way or
another to direct any context that tends.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
To me that you would contemplate carrying out such an
order to basically invade Greenland and take over the Panama Canal.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
She's like, You're gonna invade Greenland with the military, aren't you, Pete.
Pete's like, I don't. I don't think that we need
to worry about that. I think that you could probably
calm down here a little bit. I do think she
is the most intellectually limited member of the United States Congress,
not just Senate, the whole Congress. The dust person in Congress.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I think she is.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yes, I do wonder as we hear a lot of this,
we are not represented by the best and brightest. That's
whether you're Democrats, Republicans, or independence. Might my number one
criticism of political figures in general, I think would be
similar to the La Times owner that we played earlier, who,
by the way, we have invited on this program. We've

(16:10):
reached out to him, Patrick soon Seng. I might have
messed up that name, but the owner of the La Times,
he says what I think a lot of you believe.
There shouldn't be professional politicians. You should have success in
some other form of life. This is my personal opinion,
and then you should decide, hey, I want to give

(16:30):
back to this country that has been so great to me,
and I will do so through public service. And there's
a variety of ways that you can publicly serve. Being
elected to as a politician as one of them. But
the idea that you're twenty five years old and you've
never accomplished anything and you decide politics should be your
career as an elected official, I think that's fundamentally the

(16:51):
wrong decision. And I think we got a lot of
those guys in gals, and what happens Buck, as you
well know, is they're just trying to avoid getting noticed.
They're not trying to make country better. They're trying to
get re elected. And if your goal is always, hey,
I've got to make sure I get re elected, I
don't think you've got the best interest of the country
at heart. You're actually just doing whatever makes it the
most likely that you can continue to draw that pension

(17:13):
and get that job. Yes, and anyone that I've spoken to,
and I've spoken to many people who are in Congress,
in particular in the House of Representatives, they say their
job is just fundraising all the time.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Really, right, that's really the job. The job is constantly fundraising,
so in your next election cycle you have the money
to stay in Congress, which is not what it is
supposed to be. That's not the way it's supposed to go.
We'll take some of your calls you. We've also got
Jim Jordan Joyce speaking of Congress. Jim Jordan joining us
at the bottom of the hour here. We'll talk to
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Welcome back in and Clay Travis buck Sexton Show going
to be joined by our friend, Congressman Jim Jordan here shortly.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But I wanted to hit you with a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
One reports that Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos
are going to attend the Trump inauguration. That's the head
of obviously a lot of companies. Elon Meta Facebook, for
Zuckerberg and Bezos founded and run ran for a long
time Amazon. I think that's significant. I'm not sure that
Trio has ever been to any political event together. Certainly

(19:23):
they haven't set together that I'm aware of, so that's interesting.
But I wanted to play as we wait for Congressman
Jim Jordan. Here's something for all of you to enjoy.
This is the newly elected senator from Montana. Tim Shehee
has been on this program several different times with a
line of questioning that I think you will enjoy. For
Pete hagg Seth earlier, listen, how.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Many genders are they tough one senator?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
There are two genders. I know that well.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
I'm a Shihi, so I'm on board. What is the
diameter of the rifle round fired out of an M
four A one rifle?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's a five five six.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
How many push ups could you do? I did five
sets of forty seven this morning. What do you think
our most important strategic basis in the Pacific?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
In the Pacific Guam is pretty strategically significant?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
How many rounds of five to five six can you
fit into the magazine? If an M four rifle.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Depends on the magazine? But standard issues thirty?

Speaker 8 (20:16):
And what size round does the M nine Bretta Standard
issues side aren't for the military fire a nine milimeter senator?
What kind of batter is you put in your night
vision goggle?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Dura cell?

Speaker 8 (20:30):
So right there, you're representing qualifications that show you understand
what the warfighter deals with every single day in the battlefield.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I thought that was really interesting, Buck, I mean, yeah, sure, yes,
those questions.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
I'm not surprised Pete got them right. Five sets of
forty seven we turn pass strict. That's pretty good. I
gotta say forty seven, right, but please don't serve it.
I can do eighty, No, you can't, right?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
How many can you do push ups right now? If
you had to drop down in the studio good ones
chest the deck? Basically definitely thirty five maybe forty? Okay,
that's solid. I think I can get fifty. I've done
tried to do this on television before. I think I
can get fifty right now? I mean, is there money?

(21:17):
Is there money on this? Like, if I'm really motivated,
I think I could probably squeeze out some. But the
thing with push ups is there's a lot of people
could throw momentum in there and they kind of drop
down to the deck.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
You know, it's like, are we are we talking strict?
We talking the real deal?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
But yeah, I don't know that we've ever had a
defense secretary. What's the math on that? Almost two hundred
and fifty two thirty five? Is that the math on that?
I don't know how much of a rest he's giving
himself between the sets of forty seven. I imagine he
did forty seven in honor of President Trump, although he
didn't say it. That's my guess as to why he
did forty seven instead of fifty if.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
He may be the best push up.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Defense secretary that we've ever seen. And I do think
that those questions, first of all, again, how many genders
there are? That is a callback because Katanji Brown Jackson
couldn't answer it. And I think Rumsfeld probably had a
lot of old man's strength. I don't know how you
think you could have done though, Yeah, Rummy, Rummy was
kind of a he was kind of a tough old
son of a gun.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I U.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I what I like about that line of questioning one
is it's super fast, but it does demonstrate the narrative
that Pete Hegseth is sharing, which is that he is
an expert on knowing what the average officer and average
grunt is going to actually be. Like we got Congressman
Jim Jordan with us now a little bit delayed because
of voting.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Congressman.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I don't know if you've seen this news yet, but
I was giving you praise earlier for being involved in
helping to fight censorship. Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff
Bezos reportedly attending the inauguration and sitting together for Trump
on Monday. Have you heard that? What's your thoughts when
you hear that? Would you have ever believed it?

Speaker 7 (22:55):
No one would have believed that you got to love
this country. But you said this you had caught a
week or so ago. By the way, I apologized for
being late, but it was it was actually a vote
to keep men out of Winden sports on the floor
and I.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Did not want this that What was the result of
that vote.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
By the way, it's going on as we seek, I
just voted. But we're gonna win this thing, and hopefully
we're going to get some Democrats like we did the
Lake and Riley Act last week, who've seen the light
upter November fifth and both vout the right way. But yeah,
who would have predicted, you know, a few years ago
that Donald Trump, RFK Junior, Elon Musk, and Telsey Gabern
to be on the same team. Who would predict that
those three people you just described from the big tech

(23:31):
world would be given money to the Trump inauguration in there?
I mean, you just go on, who would have predicted
Mark Zuckerbert would write me a letter saying the Biden
administration pressured us the censor. We did it, We're sorry,
we won't do it again. I mean, it's it's unbelievable,
But it's because so many of us, starting with the
elon President Trump. But when you testified Clay a couple

(23:51):
of years ago, not to have the Park and Public
Committee talking about this, A bunch of us just jug
into this and said we cannot have this censorship, because
if you lose the right to debate, have free and
fair and open debate, you lose the First Amendment, you
lose Western civilization. And so it is great to see
the turnaround that has taken place here in the past
couple of years.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
How do you think our friend Pete Hegsath's doing on
Capitol Hill so far and his quest to get through
in the Senate. And you know, I know you're not
voting on this, but you know how your colleagues on
the other side of Congress are are probably feeling about
things these days. And what do you think about the
rest of the Trump that the top tier of Trump nominees.
Did you foresee any any real challenges to get any

(24:35):
of them through?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Buck? I think so all gonna make it. And I
just caught bits and pieces a piece of that meeting
and different things that was working on. But I was
cooking in every once while. He seemed confident, he's seemed poised,
and I just thought, I thought he did a tremendous
job what little I was able to catch while it
was on in the office. But I think I think
Pam's gonna make it. I think Todd blanc is gonna

(24:56):
make it. I think Cash de Telson, I mean, and
I and I think Tult he's gonna make it. And
I certainly hope Tulty and rup Cage, all of them
make it. Because they're with us on censorship, there with
us on the First Amendment. They're with us on the
prison the reform that needs to happen to the size
A law. So I'm I feel good, frankly about all
of them, not only the job they're gonna do, but

(25:17):
the fact that they're going to get confirmed by the
United States Center.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan. How optimistic are you,
Ohio State It's gonna win on Monday.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
I'm pretty darn optimistic. I mean, they just look tough.
And I don't pretend to be a football expert, although
I always wanted to play middle linebacker for the for
the for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think we've talked about before,
but when you're my size, you had to wrestle. But yeah,
I think I think they've looked a tremendous you know,
I think they're gonna win. But you gotta love Freeman.
You love what he's on Notre Dame, and he's an

(25:45):
Ohio guy too, So in some ways it's it's it's
gonna be a great day for Ohio, JB. Vince and
be vice president.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Do you think he's gonna go to both?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
By the way, have you talked to him about whether
he's going to try to do the inauguration and then
hop on a plane to go watch the game. I
haven't heard the latest details. You think he might try that?
I eat it about it.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I think it would be great he walks into this state.
I think it would be I mean, I don't know
if he will. And you know, there's a bunch of
executive orders of the president's going to sign that day,
a bunch of stuff that gets done, and JD obviously
is part of all that too, But I mean, I
love for him to do it. I think it'd be great.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Congressman Jim Jordan with us now. Congressman uh, do.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
You do you feel like the free speech shift from
Zuckerberg and some of these others is a little opportunistic
or do you think that they really have seen.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
The light here to the degree that you can parse
that out?

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Well, I'm you know, I always I guess I'm I
always see the glass. Pat pull, and so I tend
to think it's more the latter. I really do. I'm
actually gonna meet with mister Zuckerberg next next week when
he's in town for the inauguration. But I feel good
about it, and it's all this really started for me.
I had a meeting with Evan muss about two years ago,
and then Speaker McCarthy's office was three of us talking,

(27:01):
and I still remember him. And this is right when
he bought Twitter. All this stuff coming out and and
I could just come. She for sure definitely believes in
the First Amendment. And I think, you know Mark Andresen
and out there we talk with him. I think he
understands the importance of the First Amendment. So I like
to think it's it's genuine. Now, look, look I get it.
They see what happened on November fifth, they see the

(27:23):
House Defendant and the White House all now in the
public op hands. So either way, it's good for the country.
But I tend to uh, maybe it's hoped. Maybe it's
just the optimism that that I think so many Americans have.
I tend to think it's genuine.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Jim, do you think we're going to see one huge
I think it's being called a big, beautiful bill that
would roll the border issues as well as the tax
bill and everything else that's trying to be passed. Do
you think that's going to be one bill? Do you
have or does the House have a strong opinion on that?
So far as you can read Speaker Mike Johnson, And

(27:59):
what's the time frame on something like that if it's
truly one big bill?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
How long does it take to pass?

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Well, I mean the sooner the better. And I'm actually
sort of one or two actually pose and cons to both.
What I want to do is I say this all
the time. I think we make the job too complicated.
What do we tell the voters we're going to do.
If you get elected, go do what you said. So,
whether that's a two bill strategy or one bill strategy,
let's just do what we said, what they elected us
to do. I think there's there's people in the House
on both sides. The Senate leans more towards the two

(28:27):
bill strategy. I think probably slightly more House members lean
toward a one bill strategy. The presidents indicated that that
it's his preference, but I think he too just wants
to do we got to do with the border. We
got to do with with energy policy. We've got to
make sure the tax tax cuts don't expire and then
people's tax liability doesn't go up so that we can
get our comomy growing. So we gotta do all these things.

(28:48):
The timeline is as quick as possible. Frankly, you know,
hopefully by by easter some of the some of the
projections that we're here in from from leadership. So let's
just get done what we said we would do. Whether
it's one or two, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
One last question for you. You've known Trump for a
long time, you were one of his most zealous defenders.
What do you think the biggest difference between Trump one
point zero administration and Trump two point zero administration is
going to be.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
Well, he knows who the trust in town. You just
look at who he nominated back in seventeen sixteen and
seventeen after that election for key positions, much more establishment,
you know, type of not type of folks versus the
people he selected for running these key agencies. Now, I
think that is a that is a huge difference, and

(29:39):
I think he understands that. You know this, look, this
is now legacy, This is now history. He's talking about
things why does the day look so much? But he
will mention things that no one else will mention. When
he first ran in sixteen, he talked about building the wall,
and everyone's like, oh, can you really talk about that?
Yes you can, and it was the right move. And
then last week at that press conference when he's talking
about the Panama Canal Greenland, people are like, well, but

(30:02):
that is President hump He is focused on one thing,
making America great again, doing what he told the people
he was going to do who elected him in this
land slide on November fifth, And he knows the kind
of people he needs in agencies to get that done.
And that's why he's picking good people like Pete peg Cash.
To tell Pam Bondi, Todd Blanch, I mean people who

(30:22):
are run these agencies the way they need to be run.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Jim, we'll do over this weekend again.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Thank you for the time. Good work on Capitol Hill. There.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
That's Jim Jordan. We will definitely see him up. I
would imagine this weekend, Buck, you and I are both
getting to DC on Friday, and we're going to be
busy and we're gonna need a lot of energy and
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Speaker 4 (31:54):
I think that there was something pretty special about the
saxophone in American culture in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
And into the early nineties.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Now, don't start telling you about Bill Clinton in our
Sineo Hall show. No, no, no, I'm talking much broader
than this, Okay, I'm saying the saxophone was a pretty
cool thing, and it has faded, unfortunately from our great
American culture, and it recently it seemed Clay had a
little bit of a moment, a moment in the sun

(32:27):
the Packers versus the Eagles, there was a saxophone national
anthem played.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Want to play a little of it so everyone can hear?
Do we have some of it?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Go for it, man, I think it's great. Personally, I

(33:17):
think we should. I think we need to bring back
the sacks. The saxophone should be something that we hear
more of. Don't People are like, oh, Kenny g and
all this stuff. No, no, the saxophone's a great instrument. Hey, look,
this is why all of you decided to play the flute.
Made a bad decision. I understand.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Back in the day. You know, it was eighteen forty,
saxophone didn't exist.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Maybe you got to pull the flute out and you
got to walk around and play it. I challenge we
got a bunch of team owners that listen to Clay
and Buck. I challenge any pro sports franchise in America
bring a dude out to play the flute for the
national anthem your fan base will.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I think that you are forgetting about the fife, my friend,
which is a form of flute associated with the Revolutionary
period and military drums. I think the fife a small flute, badass,
very patriotic. I think there's a place for the woodwinds
out there too, not just the reeded instruments like the saxophone.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm an anti fife, and I'll tell you why. Alexi Lallis,
our mutual friend, asked about this after I challenged anyone
to bring out a flute player. The fife made sense
back in the day, like a chariot made sense, or
a horse drawn carriage. But it has been eclipsed by
finer forms of wind blown instrument. And as much respect

(34:47):
as I have for the Continental Army of George Washington,
maybe no one respects the Continental Army in America more
than yours. Truly, no intentional slight intended here. The fifes
played out much the flute. But again, if I'm wrong,
there's a bunch I would tell you.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I think the fife is like the American bagpipe. Like
I think, you hear a fife and you hear the
drums and you are ready to you are ready to
charge some red coats.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm actually very pro bagpipe. Actually, I do think the
bagpipe is pretty badass. Something amazing about about a good
pair of bagpipes. Truth, I gotta tell you. But challenge
out there for any owner who owns a team. If
I'm wrong, you bring a solo man out to play
the flute, and I demand. I bet by the end
of that national anthem, most of your fan base is

(35:35):
going to be demanding that you sell the team. And
the team might not even take the field. How could
you be inspired by a man playing a flute before
the game. I'm not even sure the team comes out.
You might as well just wave the white flag.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I think that, you know, it depends Jethro Tull. You know,
there's some ways that you could probably make it come together.
And I gotta tell you, guys this.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
AI is now allowing there to be photos of people
made doing anything. Every time I do this now a
lot of you are sending me pictures of me playing
the flute.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
These are all fake. He's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
These are good. These are not real. I have never
played the flute. There I'm producer. ALI is blowing me
up with images of me playing the flute. These are fake,
These are not real.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
This is what a I look so real. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
This is what AI does. Would I'm in a suit
playing the flute. What kind of crazy man do you
think I am? But I'm telling you this is what
AI is creating. It's not me with the flute. Go
subscribe to Crockett Coffee, by the way, even if you
like to play the flute. Crocketcoffee dot com. It's the
best coffee in America. We'll be back with you guys tomorrow.

(36:46):
Appreciate y'all.

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