June 5, 2023 • 37 mins
Syndicated radio show host Jesse Kelly rides with C&B for the hour to discuss his new book: "The Anti-Communist Manifesto" and all the latest news. Will Biden be the nominee or replaced by Gavin Newsom? Can Dems push Kamala aside? Running for president is good for your brand. Jesse fields calls from the C&B audience. Jesse's burger recipe. Jesse doesn't think Bud Light can come back.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our three Monday edition of the program. I
hope all of you are having a fantastic start to
your week. I hope you have had fantastic weekends. Kids
are starting to get out of school, and there's a
lot of stuff eating up. We've talked so far in
the program. Encourage you to go download the podcast, make
sure you don't miss it. RFK Junior going after Joe
(00:26):
Biden and Donald Trump over COVID lockdowns, the craziness surrounding
Chris Sununu in the way that he announced with CNN
and the Washington Post, and Tim Scott goes on the
view and absolutely obliterates the host there live on their
own program. Speaking of live on our own program, we
(00:46):
are joined now by man that many of you listen
to in the evenings across the Premiere Radio networks. He
is Jesse Kelly. He's got his first ever book that
is out tomorrow, and so let me just bring you
in with.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh, we got the Anti Communist Manifesto, or we're gonna
have the man on.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We gotta let him pitch the book.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The Anti Communist manifesto. What is release day for the
book going to be like?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
For you? Jesse?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
This is your first book, and obviously the promotion I've
got a book out in two months.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You have to be shameless. You have to be like
really like the even the.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Most horrish version of whatever your perspective might be. Right,
you are selling unbelievably all day long. What's the experience like?
What do you expect tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
See, this is why I call myself a world famous author.
Boys that obviously, thank you. Obviously both of my friends
claim buck for having me on. This is why I
call myself a world famous author, because I'm uniquely made
for this process. I don't have shame whatsoever. There is
no shame gene. My wife often tells me that I
lack it, that God didn't give it to me, So I.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Have no problem.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Look, I wrote the reviews myself on the back of
the book. Can you know how they normally go to
other authors to write the reviews. I not only wrote
my own reviews, I dedicated the book to myself and
in the writer's acknowledgments in the back. The acknowledgments are
only thanking me. You think that some self promotion this
week is going to be a problem. Though this only
makes my ego get even bigger and stronger going forward.
(02:15):
I love this, But to answer your question, it is wild.
I've never done it before. They gave me a list
because the publisher works with you know, producers and everything
to come up with a list on all the different
shows you're going to do this week. And they handed
me the list last week. I thought they were kidding.
I thought they were joking. It's something every minute of
every day you're going on every different shows, trying to
get it out there, trying to sell books.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Capitalism.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Maybe, so let's talk about communism for a second, and
how to be an anti communist. I have the copy
of the Anti Communist Manifesto right here on my desk.
I am going to read it. I just got it
yesterday though, so I have not read it yet. Why
do you write it, Jesse?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Because you know, I see this a line all the
time people say they're not actually communists because they're not
about a revolutionary dictatorship of the you know, tell us
about why you're writing this and why it matters for
politics right now?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, I wrote it because it's what I'm most passionate about.
I talk about anti communism all the time on my show.
I am an anti communist. I'm not a Republican, I'm
not a conservative.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
What is that? What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Anti communism essentially means this, that all these other squabbles
we have on the right, not that they're not important,
but they all are meaningless unless the Communists are stopped. First,
when I see people haggle back and forth of well,
well what about this amendment to the constitution, or what
are tax rates should be?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Is it this level or that level? You know what
you look like?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
To me? You look like somebody a couple arguing over
the color of the curtains in the house as a
gang of murderous thugs are kicking in the front door.
That's what you look like. Nothing else matters unless these
people are stopped. Anti Communism is the gigantic umbrella that
envelops all of it. Unless they are stopped, nothing else
you argue about with your friends matters. All these people
(04:01):
are murderous. They are just as murderous as the Bolsheviks
of old. I tie the links of the history and
what you see today and back then. I tie all
that into the book at the anti Communist Manifesto. I
tie it all in there because people do get confused.
They think communism is about the workers or something like that.
It's not about that at all. In the Soviet Union,
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communism was about the urban poor because they had malcontented
urban poor. In China, communism was about the rural poor
because they had malcontented rural poor, so they had to
change it there. Communism took a different form in Cambodia.
Today in America it's all LGBTQ crap and BLM crap
and climate change stuff and the feminist hags. Why, because
(04:43):
communism is just the religion of the malcontent. You find
the malcontents in your society and you use their angst
and bitterness to burn everything to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's all it is. It's just the religion, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So within that respect, all of the debate surrounding who
the Republican and should be, which at times is going
to get pretty nasty.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That really is the equivalent of arguing about what the
drapes color of the drapes are in the house while
you know the house is under assault, right. I would
imagine within that concept, construct do you expect for Joe
Biden to actually be the nominee with this has been
a big topic obviously throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Most of our listeners don't think Biden is going to
be the name.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
One of us is gonna think you're brilliant, and one
of us is gonna think you're not based on this answer, Jesse,
just so you know.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, here's the problem, fellas. I actually feel very strongly
about my answer, at the same time acknowledging that I
may be wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I do not think he's.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Going to be the nominee. I think they already have
prepared Gavin Newsom. Now listen, let me explain. I think
they've already prepped Gavin Newsom. And here's why it's all
these there's so many big stories that we talk about.
You talk about on your show, I talk about on
my show, that we miss some of the little stories sometimes.
Remember this, Remember when Joe Biden went on one of
his foreign little trips that they make poor Joe go
(05:58):
on so he can sleep, and he put and p himself.
So they send Joe Biden on one of these foreign
troops the day he left Washington, d C. I know
you guys will remember this. Yes, the day Gavin Newsom
flew into Washington, d C. And not only flew into DC,
went to the White House to meet with Joe Biden's
White House staffers. The day he leaves town. That is
(06:21):
passing your wife's physical trainer as you back out of
the driveway on the way to work, as he pulls
into the driveway of your home. It couldn't be more
obvious than that they invited him to the White House.
These presidential schedules are laid out months in advance. This
was scheduled, This was planned. Hey, Gavin, Joe's leaving to
go pooping his diapers in Europe for a couple of days,
(06:43):
why don't you swing in by the White House and
we get to know the new staff. That's what I
think happened on that trip.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So now how do you assass And we've been getting
flooded with vip emails.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Interesting today. Two things people are the most fired.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Up about, other than apparently claim I need might need
to regrow a beard, which we're seeing a lot of
that now, which is making me self conscious. No, but
the two things, because Jesse and Clay both have beards.
For the record, the two things that we're seeing everybody
way in on is by the nominee and RFK Junior,
and how that plays into this What do you see
(07:17):
because see I'm you know, I love him on COVID
because he's just telling the truth on COVID. But I
also remember when he said that climate change skeptics should
be locked up in prison. So what do you see
going on here? Like what's the democrat dynamic? And why
are people on the right more open to hearing from
RFK Junior than ever before?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Well, a couple of things. One, lots of people have beards.
You can have a beard or not have a beard.
Everyone remembers when Corey Booker had a beard until she
broke up with him, So beards are very common.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's one.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Two, RFK, I totally ignore this guy. Yes, he's correct
on COVID, and he's the only one out there correct
on COVID, the only one out there proclaiming loudly that
that vaccine is something that is not working for young
people at all. In fact, people are being injured. That
is a fact now that we're truck covering up. And
he's right on that, he's right about lockdowns. But he's
(08:07):
not going to run as an independent, so none of
this stuff matters at all. If he were to drop
out today and declare he was going to be an independent,
then what you would see as you'd see Joe Biden
or the Democrat nominee guaranteed virtually to win the White
House if Donald Trump is a nominee, because Trump is
still pro vaccine, still bragging about how COVID was handled,
(08:29):
So all the people who were angry about how COVID
were handled, they would only have one choice. Me personally,
I'd vote for Donald Trump all day long over that
piece of trash. I don't trust him as far as
I can throw him, but I will say, as a
Kennedy running for office, he's got some guts because it didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Work out well for the last couple, No doubt about that.
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So, by the way you're talking about beards, I think
it's important to also note that, unlike you, both Buck
and I still have a full head of hair.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Let's be honest, it's actually worse than that, because my
hairline is not only thinning, it is retreating back towards
my ears like the Italian Navy. But wait, it gets better.
My eyes are going too. And now I was actually
out working out yesterday and one of those planes flew
above the house that have the long banners behind him
with the huge lettering.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Right, They're designed to be huge so everyone can read
the lettering.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
And I look up at the lettering and I find
myself squinting, and then I'm covering up my eyes and
I'm thinking I'm blaming the sun. And these letters are enormous.
So at the same time, my hair is going, my
eyes are going. I'm forty one going on eighty one,
and it hurts.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Man, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Speaking of Jesse Kelly, author of the Anti Communist Manifesto,
which comes out tomorrow. He's a syndicated radio host on
Premiere Networks on later on in the day. And Jesse,
for you right now, if you had to tell me
that Joe is not going to be the guy, you
(10:03):
think very clearly, it's it's got to be Gavin Newsom
instead of Kamala Do you really believe, Like, see, that's
the other part of this mechanism that I can't get past,
which is for the Democrat Identity Politics Coalition to allow
the first black female vice president to just be pushed aside,
(10:24):
because I think the only way Joe Biden doesn't run
is if he claims a health thing or has a
real health thing. I don't think it's necessarily a planned
thing that could happen when you're in your eighties.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
But could Gavin Newsom really do that? Is that work?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because to me, the whole reason I'm so confident it's
Biden is that if it's not Biden has to be
kama and they know Kamala can't win.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Is there a way around that one?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Your argument is very sound, and it's the first thing
I've heard that makes me question mine. Can you push
her aside? How do you push her aside when she
knows where the bodies are buried? Right? Because she's gonna
have been there for four years and you know that
woman is gonna run to the media, or at least
threaten to run to the media and say, hey, I'll
spill all the tea unless you make me the nominee
that said these people are about power first, and they
(11:09):
know that Dome can't win the presidency. Nobody likes her,
No one likes her. Gavin Newsom, I know I hate him,
and I know you guys don't like him. No one
in the claim Buck clam Bucks audience likes him. That
guy's gonna sell to suburban women, the slicks back hair,
the very you know, he's gonna do the very reasonable
sounding Democrat thing. Hey, well, yeah, he's gonna have his
shirt button down three buttons and have that smoky voice
(11:32):
and be like, hey, coorse.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean Jesse. He's not Jesse Kelly height.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
He's only like six ' three, that's right.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But he's gonna go out there on TV and smooth
it over. These white women will be eating him up
like he's essential oils. And Kamala Harris is gonna have
to do the thing she's done her whole career.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
She's gonna have to suck it up. It's really really funny.
What do you think happens to Kamlin?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like so Buck and I have talked about this whole
identity politics, Like she has to be the nominee, but
she's so bad that Democrats might be willing to stick
with eighty two year old Joe Biden. What happens to
Kamala's career? Like, right, she has managed to advance to
the point that she's a vice president, I don't think
there's any way she's ever he did you hear his answer?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He threw it in right when you're asking the question.
So he said court.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
He said Supreme Court. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I
think it's Supreme Court. And here's why. I think it's
either got to be Supreme Court or a ridiculous monetary
payoff that will take the form. You guys know how
this works. She'll be on the board somewhere of some corporation.
It'd be some solar panel corporation where she has to
show up and Aspen, Colorado for two weekends a year
(12:41):
and makes ten twenty million a year. It would take
a payoff of payoffs or Supreme Court, because look, I
give Dulm a lot of crap for how she began
her career, but really the truth is she's just a
nakedly ambitious human being who will do anything to get ahead.
Remember when she knifed Joe Biden in the rear in
that debate.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That was when she was losing. She was already lost,
and she made the guy sound like the Grand.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Dragon or whatever they call him of the KKK, just
for just naked ambition on display. That's not a human
being who's gonna set that ambition aside unless you give
her a reason to.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I bet you it's going to be a Supreme Court promise.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So we got Jesse with us for this hour because
his book is out tomorrow, the Anti Communist Manifesto, and
we also wanted to give all of you, any of
you out there, give a call. We'll let Jesse answer
some calls, which we've never done before the show. Whether
this will be a fun run, we'll We'll let Jesse
handle some of the responses. For those of you who
think are big Jesse fans, maybe you call in. For
those of you who want to fight with him, we
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Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 3 (15:44):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're joined by our
friend Jesse Kelly. He is syndicated on Premiere Radio Networks
in the evenings and he's got a great new book out,
which is The Anti Communist Manifesto, comes out tomorrow. Here
we go, let's get to We've got a lot of
VIP emails and Jesse wanted to have you respond to
(16:08):
this one VIP listener. Mike, gentlemen, the Easter Bunny has
a better chance of becoming president than Mike Pence for
two reasons. One, Pence was in charge of the White
House COVID task force that produced the reopening Plan. Two,
Pence walked away from Trump when he had to force
the opportunity to recertify electors. Pence's and no man's land
(16:30):
and irrelevant? Jesse, what do you how do you respond
to our VIP? And why is Pence running? You just
file the paperwork today.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Pence is running for the same reason too, Scott's running
for the same reason. Viveg is running for the same reason.
All these other also rans are running who have no chance.
Everyone knows there are only two guys are going to
be running running for presidents. Good for your brand? And
I know that Clay and Buck are both too humble.
Well nevermind, Buck's too humble to say this. Clay probably
is not. But branding look like what I do. Obviously
(17:01):
I'm on here on Clay Buck show because I'm good
friends with them, but because I'm trying to sell a book. Now, Okay,
so I have a book. Let's say fifty people in
the world know who I am. How many people do
I get to buy this book today?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Five?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Maybe if I'm lucky. But if five hundred thousand people
know who I am, then the book sales go up.
That's why people run for president, not necessarily for book,
but for branding reasons. The book is part of it.
But Mike Pence, I know a lot of people know
who he is. But you run for president?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
How hard is it?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You either fly private or first class around the country,
five star hotels, steak dinners, seventy five dollars tequila shots,
although Mike probably wouldn't have joined us on those. You
live the life of a king. You go on these
nationally televised debates and at the end, your brand is
bigger than it was before.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So, Jesse, we're gonna get into more of these pants
with you. In a minute. We got to go into
a quick break here.
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front lines of Truth. Traviits Buck Sexton show hanging out
with our friend Jesse Kelly, who has got a book
coming out tomorrow. The Anti Communist Manifesto is the name
of that book. We would encourage you guys to get
out there and buy it. And Jesse, I know you're
(19:16):
gonna be on the road a little bit. You got
like four or five different book signings, right.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I do. I've got I've got one in Houston. Look,
this is just something we celebrities have to do. We
will famous authors. We have one in Houston. We're Salt
Lake City, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I think that's it for the first one.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
There may be a second one with the selection of
these locations, or did they just tell you, hey, this
is where you're going.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I am one of these things. It's probably a disability.
But I don't care about details of anything at all,
no details. I never know details, and I don't want
to know. People will ask me things like how are
the ratings on the show?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Or how's this?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Or where are you going on the tour? And I
never have an answer, and I don't want to know.
You Just show me where I'm going and tell me
what time I have to be there, and I'll be fine.
I had nothing to do with it whatsoever. But there
are all places I love.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's fine. I grew up around Harrisburg.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I love Salt Lake City because I moved to Montana
spent a bunch of time there, and everyone loves Florida,
so it worked out fine for me.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So let's go to some of these calls.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Chris in Saint Louis is weighing in on a major
controversy associated with you the seventy five dollars per shot
of tequila order Chris in Saint Louis, what you got
for us?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Jesse Kelly rolls straight to the point clay back, You
guys are cheap.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Seventy five dollars is all about the experience of drinking
with Jesse Kelly, not about what the shot cast like.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I just want to know how Jesse Kelly had a
had a I didn't know he had a little brother
or a first cousin who could call into the show.
But but but Chris, I gotta tell you we had
a great We had a great night that night. And
I can tell you also that that you know it
was was the best tequila that you could get. And
and can I say, are Charlie by you know because
(21:05):
she worked? Yes, Charlie Arnold was there as well, so
there is in fact a eyewitness to all that she
is now with OutKick.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It was a it was a recruiting mission.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So maybe Jesse just wanted to get the expensive tequila
so that, you know, Clay could look like a big
man and then OutKick would get a great hire, which
they did end up getting. Thank you for calling in, Chris,
sat in Saint Louis. You got a question for Jesse.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
The way you're promoting, promoting the book and hustling, what
do you think your chances are making the New York
Times Bestseller List.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Uh, well, that's funny you bring that up. The New
York Times Bestseller This is obviously a thing you want
because it's bragging rights essentially, and everyone knows how much
I love to brag. It's one of my favorite things
to do, was talk about myself and brag about myself.
That said, it's also well known that if you were
someone on the right writing a book, you really have
to sell so many that they have no choice that
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they look stupid if they keep you off the list.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So am I going to make the list?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I guess right now it's killing it. I guess we'll
find out if you want to get it or information
on the book tour, or if you want to sign
copy and you want to try to stick it to
the New York Times Jesse kellybook dot com. I should
have gave that out earlier. That's where people go for it.
So the answer to that question is, I don't know, Seth.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I hope right.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If I don't, it's not like I'm going to cry
myself to sleep. But that's always a goal. I wanted
to sell as many as I can.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, speaking to what Jesse has done and is referencing
here if you write a book that is not super
left wing. There's a lot of people out there who
believe the New York Times Bestseller List actually reflects the
most purchased books.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
In any given week.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It doesn't have a collection of super left wing bookstores
that they then create an algorithm with.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
And this I didn't know this until I wrote my
last book, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I was I think number five or six overall for
most sold copies in twenty eighteen, and I didn't make
the top twenty New York Times Bestseller list.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And you know why? They don't include Amazon in the sales.
Oh yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
So so start with the place where people buy the
most books by far, if you're buying physical books, is Amazon.
They don't include that in the list, and they do
it based on, you know, a collection of bookstores owned
by blue haired cat ladies who some of them, by
the way, listen to our show and a right wing
and we love them. But these are the left wing variety.
So Jesse's road, it's the road challenge, of.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Course, that's and that's kind of the thing. Can you
sell it would be nice more than bragging rights, more
than anything else. It would be nice to stick it
to them like that, to sell so many that just
out of shame, out of the for the credibility of
the list, they would have to put it on the list.
So of course you want that. Anyone with any ambition
wants that. Whether that will happen or not, I don't know. Look,
I want people to read it and learn from it.
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That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The other thing that's important is Buck and Jesse and
everybody out there listening. A lot of bookstores that are
physical in nature put the New York Times Bestsellers in
the front.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Of a store, so people might not know who you are.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And if you're on that list, suddenly when you walk
into a bookstore, your book is there, easy accessed, easy
to see. Somebody might pick it up that otherwise wouldn't.
That's the other reason it has a lot of impact.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Charles.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, that's one of the Wait, wait, hold on, hold
on second, Jesse, Charles and Miami wants to weigh in
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Charles, what do you have for Jesse?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon, Jesse. Sorry about your hairline there, you.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Know, I know you're talking.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
You're still you're still growing. So you're throwing out of
your hair. But anyway, I just wanted to get your thoughts.
Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic. I'm worried about Texas with
all these illegals there, and I think if electoral college
wise goes, if Texas goes, we're done. And if you
look at the county map of lower Texas, a lot
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of that has already changed blue. And I just wanted
to get your feedback on then.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
No, it's a it's a very good question. Let me
ease your fears though. Look, it's okay to be worried
about Texas because you're right. Electorally, if we lose the
state of Texas, we're finished. But Texas is going to
be just fine. And let me explain why we worry
about people moving from blue states to red states because
we say, oh, don't bring your politics with you. But
the truth is, at least here in Texas. And I
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know this from data from friends I have within the state,
so this is not me guessing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I know this.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Over sixty percent of the people who move from blue
states to red states and come to Texas are voting Republican.
So yes, are we getting Democrats in that group? Yes,
But the truth is humans are migrating as human beings
always have, so they can live under their values. They
want to live around people who share their values. When
people leave from blue to red. I know it's common
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to complain about it when you're one of the people
who's already there, But the truth is it's making your
red state stronger.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It is, and.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I understand that the concern because what happens is you
get these idiotsp governors who say, oh, bring your big
business there, and the business comes with ten thousand employees,
and those are Democrats. So that's generally a bad idea.
But when people migrate on their own, when people move
on their own, it actually helps your state. And if
you're in a red state and want to keep it
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that way, you should encourage it.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Here's some data, Jesse, to back up what you're saying.
In Florida, where I live, they had a Democrat advantage
in registration, which is amazing to think about. In twenty
eighteen when that election happened, which was a razor razor
thin governor's election, Democrats had a two hundred and fifty
thousand registered voter advantage Republicans. As of this year, as
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of this, I think it was certainly the first quarter
of this year had about a half a million advantage.
So this switch, I think it might be a three
or four hundred thousand now something like that. The switch
is massive, and so the inflow of Florida has been
overwhelmingly Republican. There's also some registration efforts in the state
for people that we're already here that are part of that,
(27:03):
but a lot of it is red state people living
in blue states say, how about trying a red state?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, just and I understand concern Jesse and Texas, you
and Florida, me and Tennessee. I think it's made it
way redder everywhere. Jesse, I bet that's what you're seeing.
You kind of hinted at that with the data from
Texas as well. Well, yeah, it's everywhere. We do not
see a massive influx of democrats here. And in fact,
this is why I talk about anti communism. This is
(27:30):
why these red states like Tennessee and Florida. Well, Florida
has been better about this, Texas Texas has sucked at this.
They should be passing laws, these anti communist laws, just
to drive the communists crazy. And this is what I
mean you pass a law like let's say you pass
a law they don't like, an abortion restriction law. People
argue back and forth about abortion. But if you pass
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one of these laws, you will find the commedies you
don't want in your state will self deport They will.
When you start overwhelming them with anti communism, the communists
will flee and make your state, make your state.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Redder as they leave. We are not near aggressive enough
with these scum, and we need to be more aggressive.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
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Speaker 3 (30:01):
Jesse's book, The Anti Communist Manifesto is out tomorrow. It's
while we're giving Jesse a third hour with us here
to talk all about this, and we have some calls
in here. Interesting, do we still have Randy in Colorado?
Randy in Colorado? You have something you wanted to tell Jesse.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I'm not a chef or a cook, but the Jesse
Kelly famous cheeseburgers are unbelievable. I got the thirty six
Blackstone cook top, eighty twenty Hamburger Tabasco Chapult. I've made
it probably six times for our friends, and every time
they come over, can you do your cheeseburgers instead of
my wife's lasagna? Thinks there, Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That's that is quite okay. Jesse, You're gonna have to
inform everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Did you You should probably have put this menu, I mean,
this recipe in the back pages of your book, because
I have seen more hubbub online out the Jesse Kelly
burger than anything Gordon Ramsey's done in the last five years.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So what is the Jesse Kelly berger methic?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Buck, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Did you just suggest I put the burger recipe in
my book? I'll have you know. I insisted. I'm holding
it up now for people on your simulcast. I insisted
that the back page of the book be the world
famous Jesse Kelly burger recipe in detail. Wow, want the
best frigging cheeseburger you've ever had in your life? Go
(31:29):
to Jesse kellybook dot com and get the dagon book
with the recipe. I will say this though, just to
entice people, because you can find it at other places.
Remember this a couple quick pointers. When you're picking out
the buns. The buns are not a vehicle to get
the meat in your mouth. Buns are important, so finger
the buns. You don't just grab a pack of buns.
You spend some time in the grocery store and you
(31:51):
finger the buns to make sure that you're getting the
freshest buns possible. Also, a good burger's cooked on a
flat top. I know we guys going to grill today.
You can go grill your steak or your ribs or
whatever you're grilling.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Leave the freaking grill alone when you're cooking.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Burgers, unless you're gonna put a frying pan or ideally
a cast iron or like that guy said, a griddle
a burger. A burger has to do what they do
in the view every day, and that's cooking its own fat.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh man, Uh, how many times do you think you're
gonna be checking the Amazon ranking of your book tomorrow
on launch day? For people out there who don't know,
I believe Amazon updates the rankings like every twenty thirty minutes,
and it is for authors on the day your book
is released, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's crack. You can't look away.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Have you found yourself like obsessively checking this thing already?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I had this exact conversation with the life with my wife, Aubrey,
who you know, you both know. I had a conversation
with her about this this weekend because she said, how are.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We gonna know? Are we gonna know? Is it this
is gonna sell?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
And I said, I'm sure they're gonna update things like
what Amazon and Barnes and Noble and things like that.
She said, well, how often do we check said, well,
we shouldn't check off and right. That would be vain
and it would be stupid. But I know I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I wish, I wish I could tell you I wasn't
going to. I don't really care. Oh I care, I'm
gonna be checking.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Well, now that I know you said every twenty thirty minutes,
only thirty minutes, Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It is obsessive, Jesse, you will find I'm sorry, Aubrey,
if she's listening right now, I'm sorry for letting you know,
because she can check it obsessively too. My mom's can
get in on the act, like, oh, you know you're
number twenty four. Now you know they constantly rerank.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We got another good call, Buck, Yeah, Randy in Houston,
a market that we absolutely love and it's Jesse's hometown.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Randy, what do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yes, Lemon Water Life Saver got a recommendation that you were,
of course more than welcome to still for your own
instead of letting your wife dress you. Since you have
no sense of style in the jeans, boots, button up
the sports coat on your tour, why don't you go
ahead and wear your T shirt of your stamp face
so you can give us the stamp. We can see
(34:02):
the T shirt up your stamp face instead of the
button up. Just throwing it out there.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, Randy, you should know if you were watching, as
everyone should be subscribed to the clam Buck simulcast, if
you were watching the clam Buck simulcast right now, you
would see I'm sitting here with my T shirt that
has my face on it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You should also know that I.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Walked into two different stores on the way to work
today and forgot I had this shirt on and everyone
was looking at me funny, and I forgot why until
I look down. The problem is the shirt that has
my face on it. He has a lot more hair
than I do now because this is from a picture
a couple of years ago. And I've decided, all right,
this is something i haven't told anybody yet, but I'm
gonna tell the claim Buck on Inture the only ones
who are gonna know. I've decided, as a long running gag,
(34:45):
I'm never updating it. I'm never updating the stamp or
my logo, even when the hair's just completely gone. I'm
gonna keep the same one that has full head of
hair Jesse on it because it makes me feel better
about myself.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Jesse bud Light. I don't know about you. Buck was
in town recently. We ran an experiment nobody will touch
a bud Light. We got the College World series going
on right now, and people have been blowing me up
from all these different venues that no one will buy
a bud light. How does bud Light come back from
basically everybody deciding that the guy who drinks bud Light
(35:20):
is a total loser.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
What would you do if you were in charge of marketing.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I don't know what the business I don't know what
the business term for this is, but there is no
coming back from what they did. It'll be a generation.
You have to understand that it's generational. On all these
efforts that they're making. Now, Hey look at my camouflage
beer can Oh, well, look at the crime stales. Wow,
we love the Marines. None of that stuff is going
to work because, as you guys had pointed out, this
(35:48):
is now ingrained in society. It got bigger than just
the right. It's now the thing that guys say to
their boys when they were making fun of them, and
they get them a bud light. You can't overcome. There's
no advertising, there's no executive. There's no marketing campaign that
can overcome that. Once bud Light has become ordering a cosmo,
and that's what it's become for dudes, You're finished generational.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's gonna take fifteen years. It's the beverage of the Commies,
if you will.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Jesse's book, The Anti Communist Manifesto, comes out tomorrow. Our
friend Jesse Kelly has a great one. You should definitely
get a copy of it and listen to the Jesse
Kelly Show wherever he's on later on in the day,
or those of you who are listening on the radio
also down on the podcast. Jesse, we are so glad
you got to hang out with us, or or that
(36:35):
maybe we're thankful we got to hang out with you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Whoever it goes. Thanks for rolling with us. Thank you boys,
I love you guys. Jesse kellybook dot com. Everyone, Jesse
kellybook dot com. Pretty sure when we're talking about claybook
dot com. So we got a lot of books. Two
bucks and it is stressful. Buck you're writing a book
as well. You're writing a book too.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Mine doesna come out till next summer, though, everybody. So
we got a little time
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our three Monday edition of the program. I
hope all of you are having a fantastic start to
your week. I hope you have had fantastic weekends. Kids
are starting to get out of school, and there's a
lot of stuff eating up. We've talked so far in
the program. Encourage you to go download the podcast, make
sure you don't miss it. RFK Junior going after Joe
(00:26):
Biden and Donald Trump over COVID lockdowns, the craziness surrounding
Chris Sununu in the way that he announced with CNN
and the Washington Post, and Tim Scott goes on the
view and absolutely obliterates the host there live on their
own program. Speaking of live on our own program, we
(00:46):
are joined now by man that many of you listen
to in the evenings across the Premiere Radio networks. He
is Jesse Kelly. He's got his first ever book that
is out tomorrow, and so let me just bring you
in with.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh, we got the Anti Communist Manifesto, or we're gonna
have the man on.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We gotta let him pitch the book.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The Anti Communist manifesto. What is release day for the
book going to be like?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
For you? Jesse?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
This is your first book, and obviously the promotion I've
got a book out in two months.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You have to be shameless. You have to be like
really like the even the.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Most horrish version of whatever your perspective might be. Right,
you are selling unbelievably all day long. What's the experience like?
What do you expect tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
See, this is why I call myself a world famous author.
Boys that obviously, thank you. Obviously both of my friends
claim buck for having me on. This is why I
call myself a world famous author, because I'm uniquely made
for this process. I don't have shame whatsoever. There is
no shame gene. My wife often tells me that I
lack it, that God didn't give it to me, So I.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Have no problem.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Look, I wrote the reviews myself on the back of
the book. Can you know how they normally go to
other authors to write the reviews. I not only wrote
my own reviews, I dedicated the book to myself and
in the writer's acknowledgments in the back. The acknowledgments are
only thanking me. You think that some self promotion this
week is going to be a problem. Though this only
makes my ego get even bigger and stronger going forward.
(02:15):
I love this, But to answer your question, it is wild.
I've never done it before. They gave me a list
because the publisher works with you know, producers and everything
to come up with a list on all the different
shows you're going to do this week. And they handed
me the list last week. I thought they were kidding.
I thought they were joking. It's something every minute of
every day you're going on every different shows, trying to
get it out there, trying to sell books.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Capitalism.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Maybe, so let's talk about communism for a second, and
how to be an anti communist. I have the copy
of the Anti Communist Manifesto right here on my desk.
I am going to read it. I just got it
yesterday though, so I have not read it yet. Why
do you write it, Jesse?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Because you know, I see this a line all the
time people say they're not actually communists because they're not
about a revolutionary dictatorship of the you know, tell us
about why you're writing this and why it matters for
politics right now?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, I wrote it because it's what I'm most passionate about.
I talk about anti communism all the time on my show.
I am an anti communist. I'm not a Republican, I'm
not a conservative.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
What is that? What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Anti communism essentially means this, that all these other squabbles
we have on the right, not that they're not important,
but they all are meaningless unless the Communists are stopped. First,
when I see people haggle back and forth of well,
well what about this amendment to the constitution, or what
are tax rates should be?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Is it this level or that level? You know what
you look like?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
To me? You look like somebody a couple arguing over
the color of the curtains in the house as a
gang of murderous thugs are kicking in the front door.
That's what you look like. Nothing else matters unless these
people are stopped. Anti Communism is the gigantic umbrella that
envelops all of it. Unless they are stopped, nothing else
you argue about with your friends matters. All these people
(04:01):
are murderous. They are just as murderous as the Bolsheviks
of old. I tie the links of the history and
what you see today and back then. I tie all
that into the book at the anti Communist Manifesto. I
tie it all in there because people do get confused.
They think communism is about the workers or something like that.
It's not about that at all. In the Soviet Union,
(04:22):
communism was about the urban poor because they had malcontented
urban poor. In China, communism was about the rural poor
because they had malcontented rural poor, so they had to
change it there. Communism took a different form in Cambodia.
Today in America it's all LGBTQ crap and BLM crap
and climate change stuff and the feminist hags. Why, because
(04:43):
communism is just the religion of the malcontent. You find
the malcontents in your society and you use their angst
and bitterness to burn everything to the ground.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's all it is. It's just the religion, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So within that respect, all of the debate surrounding who
the Republican and should be, which at times is going
to get pretty nasty.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That really is the equivalent of arguing about what the
drapes color of the drapes are in the house while
you know the house is under assault, right. I would
imagine within that concept, construct do you expect for Joe
Biden to actually be the nominee with this has been
a big topic obviously throughout the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Most of our listeners don't think Biden is going to
be the name.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
One of us is gonna think you're brilliant, and one
of us is gonna think you're not based on this answer, Jesse,
just so you know.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, here's the problem, fellas. I actually feel very strongly
about my answer, at the same time acknowledging that I
may be wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I do not think he's.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Going to be the nominee. I think they already have
prepared Gavin Newsom. Now listen, let me explain. I think
they've already prepped Gavin Newsom. And here's why it's all
these there's so many big stories that we talk about.
You talk about on your show, I talk about on
my show, that we miss some of the little stories sometimes.
Remember this, Remember when Joe Biden went on one of
his foreign little trips that they make poor Joe go
(05:58):
on so he can sleep, and he put and p himself.
So they send Joe Biden on one of these foreign
troops the day he left Washington, d C. I know
you guys will remember this. Yes, the day Gavin Newsom
flew into Washington, d C. And not only flew into DC,
went to the White House to meet with Joe Biden's
White House staffers. The day he leaves town. That is
(06:21):
passing your wife's physical trainer as you back out of
the driveway on the way to work, as he pulls
into the driveway of your home. It couldn't be more
obvious than that they invited him to the White House.
These presidential schedules are laid out months in advance. This
was scheduled, This was planned. Hey, Gavin, Joe's leaving to
go pooping his diapers in Europe for a couple of days,
(06:43):
why don't you swing in by the White House and
we get to know the new staff. That's what I
think happened on that trip.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So now how do you assass And we've been getting
flooded with vip emails.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Interesting today. Two things people are the most fired.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Up about, other than apparently claim I need might need
to regrow a beard, which we're seeing a lot of
that now, which is making me self conscious. No, but
the two things, because Jesse and Clay both have beards.
For the record, the two things that we're seeing everybody
way in on is by the nominee and RFK Junior,
and how that plays into this What do you see
(07:17):
because see I'm you know, I love him on COVID
because he's just telling the truth on COVID. But I
also remember when he said that climate change skeptics should
be locked up in prison. So what do you see
going on here? Like what's the democrat dynamic? And why
are people on the right more open to hearing from
RFK Junior than ever before?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Well, a couple of things. One, lots of people have beards.
You can have a beard or not have a beard.
Everyone remembers when Corey Booker had a beard until she
broke up with him, So beards are very common.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's one.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Two, RFK, I totally ignore this guy. Yes, he's correct
on COVID, and he's the only one out there correct
on COVID, the only one out there proclaiming loudly that
that vaccine is something that is not working for young
people at all. In fact, people are being injured. That
is a fact now that we're truck covering up. And
he's right on that, he's right about lockdowns. But he's
(08:07):
not going to run as an independent, so none of
this stuff matters at all. If he were to drop
out today and declare he was going to be an independent,
then what you would see as you'd see Joe Biden
or the Democrat nominee guaranteed virtually to win the White
House if Donald Trump is a nominee, because Trump is
still pro vaccine, still bragging about how COVID was handled,
(08:29):
So all the people who were angry about how COVID
were handled, they would only have one choice. Me personally,
I'd vote for Donald Trump all day long over that
piece of trash. I don't trust him as far as
I can throw him, but I will say, as a
Kennedy running for office, he's got some guts because it didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Work out well for the last couple, No doubt about that.
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So, by the way you're talking about beards, I think
it's important to also note that, unlike you, both Buck
and I still have a full head of hair.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Let's be honest, it's actually worse than that, because my
hairline is not only thinning, it is retreating back towards
my ears like the Italian Navy. But wait, it gets better.
My eyes are going too. And now I was actually
out working out yesterday and one of those planes flew
above the house that have the long banners behind him
with the huge lettering.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Right, They're designed to be huge so everyone can read
the lettering.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
And I look up at the lettering and I find
myself squinting, and then I'm covering up my eyes and
I'm thinking I'm blaming the sun. And these letters are enormous.
So at the same time, my hair is going, my
eyes are going. I'm forty one going on eighty one,
and it hurts.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Man, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Speaking of Jesse Kelly, author of the Anti Communist Manifesto,
which comes out tomorrow. He's a syndicated radio host on
Premiere Networks on later on in the day. And Jesse,
for you right now, if you had to tell me
that Joe is not going to be the guy, you
(10:03):
think very clearly, it's it's got to be Gavin Newsom
instead of Kamala Do you really believe, Like, see, that's
the other part of this mechanism that I can't get past,
which is for the Democrat Identity Politics Coalition to allow
the first black female vice president to just be pushed aside,
(10:24):
because I think the only way Joe Biden doesn't run
is if he claims a health thing or has a
real health thing. I don't think it's necessarily a planned
thing that could happen when you're in your eighties.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
But could Gavin Newsom really do that? Is that work?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Because to me, the whole reason I'm so confident it's
Biden is that if it's not Biden has to be
kama and they know Kamala can't win.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Is there a way around that one?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Your argument is very sound, and it's the first thing
I've heard that makes me question mine. Can you push
her aside? How do you push her aside when she
knows where the bodies are buried? Right? Because she's gonna
have been there for four years and you know that
woman is gonna run to the media, or at least
threaten to run to the media and say, hey, I'll
spill all the tea unless you make me the nominee
that said these people are about power first, and they
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know that Dome can't win the presidency. Nobody likes her,
No one likes her. Gavin Newsom, I know I hate him,
and I know you guys don't like him. No one
in the claim Buck clam Bucks audience likes him. That
guy's gonna sell to suburban women, the slicks back hair,
the very you know, he's gonna do the very reasonable
sounding Democrat thing. Hey, well, yeah, he's gonna have his
shirt button down three buttons and have that smoky voice
(11:32):
and be like, hey, coorse.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean Jesse. He's not Jesse Kelly height.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
He's only like six ' three, that's right.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
But he's gonna go out there on TV and smooth
it over. These white women will be eating him up
like he's essential oils. And Kamala Harris is gonna have
to do the thing she's done her whole career.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
She's gonna have to suck it up. It's really really funny.
What do you think happens to Kamlin?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like so Buck and I have talked about this whole
identity politics, Like she has to be the nominee, but
she's so bad that Democrats might be willing to stick
with eighty two year old Joe Biden. What happens to
Kamala's career? Like, right, she has managed to advance to
the point that she's a vice president, I don't think
there's any way she's ever he did you hear his answer?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He threw it in right when you're asking the question.
So he said court.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
He said Supreme Court. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I
think it's Supreme Court. And here's why. I think it's
either got to be Supreme Court or a ridiculous monetary
payoff that will take the form. You guys know how
this works. She'll be on the board somewhere of some corporation.
It'd be some solar panel corporation where she has to
show up and Aspen, Colorado for two weekends a year
(12:41):
and makes ten twenty million a year. It would take
a payoff of payoffs or Supreme Court, because look, I
give Dulm a lot of crap for how she began
her career, but really the truth is she's just a
nakedly ambitious human being who will do anything to get ahead.
Remember when she knifed Joe Biden in the rear in
that debate.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That was when she was losing. She was already lost,
and she made the guy sound like the Grand.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Dragon or whatever they call him of the KKK, just
for just naked ambition on display. That's not a human
being who's gonna set that ambition aside unless you give
her a reason to.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I bet you it's going to be a Supreme Court promise.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
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his book is out tomorrow, the Anti Communist Manifesto, and
we also wanted to give all of you, any of
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some calls, which we've never done before the show. Whether
this will be a fun run, we'll We'll let Jesse
handle some of the responses. For those of you who
think are big Jesse fans, maybe you call in. For
those of you who want to fight with him, we
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Speaker 3 (15:44):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're joined by our
friend Jesse Kelly. He is syndicated on Premiere Radio Networks
in the evenings and he's got a great new book out,
which is The Anti Communist Manifesto, comes out tomorrow. Here
we go, let's get to We've got a lot of
VIP emails and Jesse wanted to have you respond to
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this one VIP listener. Mike, gentlemen, the Easter Bunny has
a better chance of becoming president than Mike Pence for
two reasons. One, Pence was in charge of the White
House COVID task force that produced the reopening Plan. Two,
Pence walked away from Trump when he had to force
the opportunity to recertify electors. Pence's and no man's land
(16:30):
and irrelevant? Jesse, what do you how do you respond
to our VIP? And why is Pence running? You just
file the paperwork today.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Pence is running for the same reason too, Scott's running
for the same reason. Viveg is running for the same reason.
All these other also rans are running who have no chance.
Everyone knows there are only two guys are going to
be running running for presidents. Good for your brand? And
I know that Clay and Buck are both too humble.
Well nevermind, Buck's too humble to say this. Clay probably
is not. But branding look like what I do. Obviously
(17:01):
I'm on here on Clay Buck show because I'm good
friends with them, but because I'm trying to sell a book. Now, Okay,
so I have a book. Let's say fifty people in
the world know who I am. How many people do
I get to buy this book today?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Five?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Maybe if I'm lucky. But if five hundred thousand people
know who I am, then the book sales go up.
That's why people run for president, not necessarily for book,
but for branding reasons. The book is part of it.
But Mike Pence, I know a lot of people know
who he is. But you run for president?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
How hard is it?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You either fly private or first class around the country,
five star hotels, steak dinners, seventy five dollars tequila shots,
although Mike probably wouldn't have joined us on those. You
live the life of a king. You go on these
nationally televised debates and at the end, your brand is
bigger than it was before.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So, Jesse, we're gonna get into more of these pants
with you. In a minute. We got to go into
a quick break here.
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with our friend Jesse Kelly, who has got a book
coming out tomorrow. The Anti Communist Manifesto is the name
of that book. We would encourage you guys to get
out there and buy it. And Jesse, I know you're
(19:16):
gonna be on the road a little bit. You got
like four or five different book signings, right.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I do. I've got I've got one in Houston. Look,
this is just something we celebrities have to do. We
will famous authors. We have one in Houston. We're Salt
Lake City, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I think that's it for the first one.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
There may be a second one with the selection of
these locations, or did they just tell you, hey, this
is where you're going.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I am one of these things. It's probably a disability.
But I don't care about details of anything at all,
no details. I never know details, and I don't want
to know. People will ask me things like how are
the ratings on the show?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Or how's this?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Or where are you going on the tour? And I
never have an answer, and I don't want to know.
You Just show me where I'm going and tell me
what time I have to be there, and I'll be fine.
I had nothing to do with it whatsoever. But there
are all places I love.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's fine. I grew up around Harrisburg.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I love Salt Lake City because I moved to Montana
spent a bunch of time there, and everyone loves Florida,
so it worked out fine for me.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So let's go to some of these calls.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Chris in Saint Louis is weighing in on a major
controversy associated with you the seventy five dollars per shot
of tequila order Chris in Saint Louis, what you got
for us?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Jesse Kelly rolls straight to the point clay back, You
guys are cheap.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Seventy five dollars is all about the experience of drinking
with Jesse Kelly, not about what the shot cast like.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I just want to know how Jesse Kelly had a
had a I didn't know he had a little brother
or a first cousin who could call into the show.
But but but Chris, I gotta tell you we had
a great We had a great night that night. And
I can tell you also that that you know it
was was the best tequila that you could get. And
and can I say, are Charlie by you know because
(21:05):
she worked? Yes, Charlie Arnold was there as well, so
there is in fact a eyewitness to all that she
is now with OutKick.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It was a it was a recruiting mission.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So maybe Jesse just wanted to get the expensive tequila
so that, you know, Clay could look like a big
man and then OutKick would get a great hire, which
they did end up getting. Thank you for calling in, Chris,
sat in Saint Louis. You got a question for Jesse.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
The way you're promoting, promoting the book and hustling, what
do you think your chances are making the New York
Times Bestseller List.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Uh, well, that's funny you bring that up. The New
York Times Bestseller This is obviously a thing you want
because it's bragging rights essentially, and everyone knows how much
I love to brag. It's one of my favorite things
to do, was talk about myself and brag about myself.
That said, it's also well known that if you were
someone on the right writing a book, you really have
to sell so many that they have no choice that
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they look stupid if they keep you off the list.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So am I going to make the list?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I guess right now it's killing it. I guess we'll
find out if you want to get it or information
on the book tour, or if you want to sign
copy and you want to try to stick it to
the New York Times Jesse kellybook dot com. I should
have gave that out earlier. That's where people go for it.
So the answer to that question is, I don't know, Seth.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I hope right.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If I don't, it's not like I'm going to cry
myself to sleep. But that's always a goal. I wanted
to sell as many as I can.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, speaking to what Jesse has done and is referencing
here if you write a book that is not super
left wing. There's a lot of people out there who
believe the New York Times Bestseller List actually reflects the
most purchased books.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
In any given week.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It doesn't have a collection of super left wing bookstores
that they then create an algorithm with.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
And this I didn't know this until I wrote my
last book, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I was I think number five or six overall for
most sold copies in twenty eighteen, and I didn't make
the top twenty New York Times Bestseller list.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And you know why? They don't include Amazon in the sales.
Oh yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
So so start with the place where people buy the
most books by far, if you're buying physical books, is Amazon.
They don't include that in the list, and they do
it based on, you know, a collection of bookstores owned
by blue haired cat ladies who some of them, by
the way, listen to our show and a right wing
and we love them. But these are the left wing variety.
So Jesse's road, it's the road challenge, of.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Course, that's and that's kind of the thing. Can you
sell it would be nice more than bragging rights, more
than anything else. It would be nice to stick it
to them like that, to sell so many that just
out of shame, out of the for the credibility of
the list, they would have to put it on the list.
So of course you want that. Anyone with any ambition
wants that. Whether that will happen or not, I don't know. Look,
I want people to read it and learn from it.
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That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The other thing that's important is Buck and Jesse and
everybody out there listening. A lot of bookstores that are
physical in nature put the New York Times Bestsellers in
the front.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Of a store, so people might not know who you are.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And if you're on that list, suddenly when you walk
into a bookstore, your book is there, easy accessed, easy
to see. Somebody might pick it up that otherwise wouldn't.
That's the other reason it has a lot of impact.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Charles.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, that's one of the Wait, wait, hold on, hold
on second, Jesse, Charles and Miami wants to weigh in
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Charles, what do you have for Jesse?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon, Jesse. Sorry about your hairline there, you.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Know, I know you're talking.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
You're still you're still growing. So you're throwing out of
your hair. But anyway, I just wanted to get your thoughts.
Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic. I'm worried about Texas with
all these illegals there, and I think if electoral college
wise goes, if Texas goes, we're done. And if you
look at the county map of lower Texas, a lot
(24:54):
of that has already changed blue. And I just wanted
to get your feedback on then.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
No, it's a it's a very good question. Let me
ease your fears though. Look, it's okay to be worried
about Texas because you're right. Electorally, if we lose the
state of Texas, we're finished. But Texas is going to
be just fine. And let me explain why we worry
about people moving from blue states to red states because
we say, oh, don't bring your politics with you. But
the truth is, at least here in Texas. And I
(25:20):
know this from data from friends I have within the state,
so this is not me guessing.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I know this.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Over sixty percent of the people who move from blue
states to red states and come to Texas are voting Republican.
So yes, are we getting Democrats in that group? Yes,
But the truth is humans are migrating as human beings
always have, so they can live under their values. They
want to live around people who share their values. When
people leave from blue to red. I know it's common
(25:48):
to complain about it when you're one of the people
who's already there, But the truth is it's making your
red state stronger.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It is, and.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I understand that the concern because what happens is you
get these idiotsp governors who say, oh, bring your big
business there, and the business comes with ten thousand employees,
and those are Democrats. So that's generally a bad idea.
But when people migrate on their own, when people move
on their own, it actually helps your state. And if
you're in a red state and want to keep it
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that way, you should encourage it.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Here's some data, Jesse, to back up what you're saying.
In Florida, where I live, they had a Democrat advantage
in registration, which is amazing to think about. In twenty
eighteen when that election happened, which was a razor razor
thin governor's election, Democrats had a two hundred and fifty
thousand registered voter advantage Republicans. As of this year, as
(26:42):
of this, I think it was certainly the first quarter
of this year had about a half a million advantage.
So this switch, I think it might be a three
or four hundred thousand now something like that. The switch
is massive, and so the inflow of Florida has been
overwhelmingly Republican. There's also some registration efforts in the state
for people that we're already here that are part of that,
(27:03):
but a lot of it is red state people living
in blue states say, how about trying a red state?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, just and I understand concern Jesse and Texas, you
and Florida, me and Tennessee. I think it's made it
way redder everywhere. Jesse, I bet that's what you're seeing.
You kind of hinted at that with the data from
Texas as well. Well, yeah, it's everywhere. We do not
see a massive influx of democrats here. And in fact,
this is why I talk about anti communism. This is
(27:30):
why these red states like Tennessee and Florida. Well, Florida
has been better about this, Texas Texas has sucked at this.
They should be passing laws, these anti communist laws, just
to drive the communists crazy. And this is what I
mean you pass a law like let's say you pass
a law they don't like, an abortion restriction law. People
argue back and forth about abortion. But if you pass
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one of these laws, you will find the commedies you
don't want in your state will self deport They will.
When you start overwhelming them with anti communism, the communists
will flee and make your state, make your state.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Redder as they leave. We are not near aggressive enough
with these scum, and we need to be more aggressive.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
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Speaker 3 (30:01):
Jesse's book, The Anti Communist Manifesto is out tomorrow. It's
while we're giving Jesse a third hour with us here
to talk all about this, and we have some calls
in here. Interesting, do we still have Randy in Colorado?
Randy in Colorado? You have something you wanted to tell Jesse.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I'm not a chef or a cook, but the Jesse
Kelly famous cheeseburgers are unbelievable. I got the thirty six
Blackstone cook top, eighty twenty Hamburger Tabasco Chapult. I've made
it probably six times for our friends, and every time
they come over, can you do your cheeseburgers instead of
my wife's lasagna? Thinks there, Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That's that is quite okay. Jesse, You're gonna have to
inform everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Did you You should probably have put this menu, I mean,
this recipe in the back pages of your book, because
I have seen more hubbub online out the Jesse Kelly
burger than anything Gordon Ramsey's done in the last five years.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So what is the Jesse Kelly berger methic?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Buck, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Did you just suggest I put the burger recipe in
my book? I'll have you know. I insisted. I'm holding
it up now for people on your simulcast. I insisted
that the back page of the book be the world
famous Jesse Kelly burger recipe in detail. Wow, want the
best frigging cheeseburger you've ever had in your life? Go
(31:29):
to Jesse kellybook dot com and get the dagon book
with the recipe. I will say this though, just to
entice people, because you can find it at other places.
Remember this a couple quick pointers. When you're picking out
the buns. The buns are not a vehicle to get
the meat in your mouth. Buns are important, so finger
the buns. You don't just grab a pack of buns.
You spend some time in the grocery store and you
(31:51):
finger the buns to make sure that you're getting the
freshest buns possible. Also, a good burger's cooked on a
flat top. I know we guys going to grill today.
You can go grill your steak or your ribs or
whatever you're grilling.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Leave the freaking grill alone when you're cooking.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Burgers, unless you're gonna put a frying pan or ideally
a cast iron or like that guy said, a griddle
a burger. A burger has to do what they do
in the view every day, and that's cooking its own fat.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh man, Uh, how many times do you think you're
gonna be checking the Amazon ranking of your book tomorrow
on launch day? For people out there who don't know,
I believe Amazon updates the rankings like every twenty thirty minutes,
and it is for authors on the day your book
is released, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's crack. You can't look away.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Have you found yourself like obsessively checking this thing already?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I had this exact conversation with the life with my wife, Aubrey,
who you know, you both know. I had a conversation
with her about this this weekend because she said, how are.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We gonna know? Are we gonna know? Is it this
is gonna sell?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
And I said, I'm sure they're gonna update things like
what Amazon and Barnes and Noble and things like that.
She said, well, how often do we check said, well,
we shouldn't check off and right. That would be vain
and it would be stupid. But I know I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I wish, I wish I could tell you I wasn't
going to. I don't really care. Oh I care, I'm
gonna be checking.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Well, now that I know you said every twenty thirty minutes,
only thirty minutes, Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It is obsessive, Jesse, you will find I'm sorry, Aubrey,
if she's listening right now, I'm sorry for letting you know,
because she can check it obsessively too. My mom's can
get in on the act, like, oh, you know you're
number twenty four. Now you know they constantly rerank.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We got another good call, Buck, Yeah, Randy in Houston,
a market that we absolutely love and it's Jesse's hometown.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Randy, what do you got for us?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yes, Lemon Water Life Saver got a recommendation that you were,
of course more than welcome to still for your own
instead of letting your wife dress you. Since you have
no sense of style in the jeans, boots, button up
the sports coat on your tour, why don't you go
ahead and wear your T shirt of your stamp face
so you can give us the stamp. We can see
(34:02):
the T shirt up your stamp face instead of the
button up. Just throwing it out there.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Well, Randy, you should know if you were watching, as
everyone should be subscribed to the clam Buck simulcast, if
you were watching the clam Buck simulcast right now, you
would see I'm sitting here with my T shirt that
has my face on it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You should also know that I.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Walked into two different stores on the way to work
today and forgot I had this shirt on and everyone
was looking at me funny, and I forgot why until
I look down. The problem is the shirt that has
my face on it. He has a lot more hair
than I do now because this is from a picture
a couple of years ago. And I've decided, all right,
this is something i haven't told anybody yet, but I'm
gonna tell the claim Buck on Inture the only ones
who are gonna know. I've decided, as a long running gag,
(34:45):
I'm never updating it. I'm never updating the stamp or
my logo, even when the hair's just completely gone. I'm
gonna keep the same one that has full head of
hair Jesse on it because it makes me feel better
about myself.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Jesse bud Light. I don't know about you. Buck was
in town recently. We ran an experiment nobody will touch
a bud Light. We got the College World series going
on right now, and people have been blowing me up
from all these different venues that no one will buy
a bud light. How does bud Light come back from
basically everybody deciding that the guy who drinks bud Light
(35:20):
is a total loser.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
What would you do if you were in charge of marketing.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I don't know what the business I don't know what
the business term for this is, but there is no
coming back from what they did. It'll be a generation.
You have to understand that it's generational. On all these
efforts that they're making. Now, Hey look at my camouflage
beer can Oh, well, look at the crime stales. Wow,
we love the Marines. None of that stuff is going
to work because, as you guys had pointed out, this
(35:48):
is now ingrained in society. It got bigger than just
the right. It's now the thing that guys say to
their boys when they were making fun of them, and
they get them a bud light. You can't overcome. There's
no advertising, there's no executive. There's no marketing campaign that
can overcome that. Once bud Light has become ordering a cosmo,
and that's what it's become for dudes, You're finished generational.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's gonna take fifteen years. It's the beverage of the Commies,
if you will.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Jesse's book, The Anti Communist Manifesto, comes out tomorrow. Our
friend Jesse Kelly has a great one. You should definitely
get a copy of it and listen to the Jesse
Kelly Show wherever he's on later on in the day,
or those of you who are listening on the radio
also down on the podcast. Jesse, we are so glad
you got to hang out with us, or or that
(36:35):
maybe we're thankful we got to hang out with you.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Whoever it goes. Thanks for rolling with us. Thank you boys,
I love you guys. Jesse kellybook dot com. Everyone, Jesse
kellybook dot com. Pretty sure when we're talking about claybook
dot com. So we got a lot of books. Two
bucks and it is stressful. Buck you're writing a book
as well. You're writing a book too.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Mine doesna come out till next summer, though, everybody. So
we got a little time
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