November 8, 2024 • 36 mins
Author and investigative journalist, Julie Kelly, joins C and B with her take on how Trump's victory impacts the J6 political prisoners and Jack Smith's cases against Trump. AZ, NV, CA counting continues, Kari Lake, Sam Brown races still up in air, GOP House majority still uncertain. Replay of hilarious liberal "political analyst" at 5PM on Election Day. Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson predicted Trump would be "wrecked." Celebrate this weekend!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in hour number three, final hour of an
incredible week of fun. Let's close out and celebrate. We
begin the hour with our good friend Julie Kelly, who
has been on top of jan six Jack Smith, everything
else for years now coming on to talk about all
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of this with us. But I just want to start
with this, Julie, how much did you enjoy Tuesday night?
Was there a moment that for you was like the
apex of happiness? I know we've joked before about what
having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
I hope you thought about that idea at least once
as all the returns were coming in. Do you still
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just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile
on your face?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Totally. Clay and I did repost our conversation from a
few months ago when you said you love to have
a camera in the room when Trump won a camera
on Jack Smith. I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I
woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth ers,
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knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them.
And then, you know, as the night progressed and the
returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay
Sixer started to text me and I think it was
just like later that night realizing, Wow, the good the
good guys when I think it was like one o'clock
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or so, the good guys won, the bad guys lost
are going to face repercussions, which of course I will
happily work on. And then most importantly, the burden lifted
off of JA sixers, knowing that there's hope for them,
relief around the corner, and exoneration at the very least
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claimed up their own government not referring to them domestic
Paris anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Julie, can you just for everybody you know, we've had
you on a lot to talk about the J six defendants,
give a sense, because you know, the media and a
lot of the media that I'm talking about those who
listen to us and who are part of our extended
radio family here don't pay attention to. But for a
lot of Americans, what they've been told is there's all
this violence, and only the most serious people have faced
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any you know, serious crimes, have faced any consequests from
January sixth. Some of the people who are who have
or are serving prison sentences on the lower end in
terms of offenses include what like tell us some of
those stories so people can really know this is what
was done to them and this is how unjust it was.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four
common misdemeanors that the government that this DOJ has brought
against J six ers for the very first time. Early
on the Chief Judge Beryl Howell, the shameless Trump hater,
she overthought Special Council Robert Mueller's probe and then ran
the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA
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sixth prosecution, she openly seven courts, we never deal with
Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly what
they've been doing. So they more than I think seven
hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors applied to them.
And this is parading in the Capitol, this is being
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on restricted grounds where a Secret Service protectee is disorder
the conduct, and on Capitol grounds just being there even
have engaged in disorderly conducts. So there are four common
misdemeanors Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the j dragged
TODC for core proceedings and in almost every case claim
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bucks faced some sort of prison time, whether it was
thirty days or some met Some were sentenced to the
maximum number of months, which is twelve months for these misdemeanors,
and they were thrown in federal prison for this. So
that to me is the lowest king fruit that I
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think is something that the President can sign up on
day one, is immediate pardons for all of them, the
misdemeaning cases. Then you get into trickier areas well, as
you know, the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this.
The Supreme Court overturned how the DOJ unlawfully applied fifteen
twelve C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was
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the post on run tampering with evidence and documents that
you also used for the very first time in J
six cases. More than three hundred J sixers charged with
that felony, so that has been overturned. Many defendants have
gone to court speaking that to have that conviction, whether
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they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have
those convictions vacated. So all of those individuals should easily
be pardoned in the existing any existing indictment. Strap then
you get into trickier areas assault on police. Right, they're
a handful of those cases that really need to be
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closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for
the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting
or interfering with police, that's the statute assault interfering inhibiting
law enforcement. This could be to someone who yelled at
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a police officer, who touched a riot shield, who threw
a water bottle towards police Siennes, and we see things
like that all the time in protests, correct, We thought
certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but they were
never charged with this federal statute, So we need to
look more closely. I think that will be the sickier area,
the grayer area as to where pardons should apply. Even
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the most egregious cases, their sentences should be commuted. You
have a man, Julian Cator, who has been in prison
since March of twenty twenty one his arrest. He was
one of two of the fall guys for the death
of Brian's Sickness, claiming that because he was hit with
pepper spray. That's how he died of a stroke the
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next day. Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in New
Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused of spraying Brian
Signick with a small thing of pepper spray. He languished
in the DC ulag awaiting trial. He was tormented for
almost two years before he accepted a previal. Then he
was sentenced to seven years in federal prison. That is,
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there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let
alone in Washington DC. Those are the sort of cases
that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and cream
these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to
the sentences that they've received.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's
been covering the jan sixth cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions,
the law fair against Trump in general with US now
for years. I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was,
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,
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Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is
the latest on these cases and where should it go?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
From here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Let me ask you like broad question, if you know,
if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should we do
about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you suggest Republicans
coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator? Where should
this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised by how
quickly all of this house of cards collapsed?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yes? I am so. Number One, the Florida Document's case.
As you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July
based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ
and Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what
we're expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back
that appeal, drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands,
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which is very interesting as to how it will affect
future Special councils. Number two, I will admit I'm surprised
the Jack Smith and the DOJ is dropping the Washington
case so quickly because Judge Chuckkin on October twenty eighth,
a few days before the election, set deadlines in that
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case into mid and late December. She wanted to drag
this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won.
I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue
to pursue those deadlines. Those motions have one more court perance,
right to drag out all this evidence before judge. Chuck hints,
I really thought that they were going to hold that
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to the last minute, Steven. If Donald Trump won, that
is not the case. So it does look like this
laws there really has backfired. Now you saw Jim Jordan today,
a letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee. He
instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,
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evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,
this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got
a piece on my substant you classified with Lutelli that
spells out the prosebatorial of use and misconduct in both
of those cases, especially the Florida case, where you guys
know I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering first
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him what was happening there, and the revelations about you know,
the mar Lago armed grades where agents violated even the
very broad terms of that search warrant. There are accusations
of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in that case,
threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a close aid
personal aids of Donald truy Up, who Jay Bratt, who
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was one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully him
and threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and becoming
a government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality
in the Special Council's office, not just Jack Smith, but
his prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident
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from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases, and
also guys, as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent
at least fifty million dollars two years of this investigation,
millions and contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white
shoe law firms, but also more than eleven million dollars
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in salaries and benefits. And this was just the first
fourteen months. By the way, this is probably topping twenty
million dollars just in salaries and benefits. Because he's way
behind in his obligated required financial reporting. All of his expenses,
including his personal protective details. Every single dollar must be
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accounted for, because I want to see where those contracts went,
and who those employees were, and how they spent so
much money. And then at the end you might come
to be handed.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her sub stack. You
want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,
you're in contact with both the Trump side of this
equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.
Just just what's it like for them to know that? Well,
how much do we know at this point? I mean,
my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be
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sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.
What can you tell us about where this is going?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages
from attorneys from JAY sixers and their loved ones, so
relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work
really begins. So it's just, you know, putting together the teas.
I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to
the part in commutation project. Whoever, his new Attorney General
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will be particularly in acting DCUs attorney where all these
cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately, on
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, shut down what the Mayor
Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves COJ refers to as the
Capital siege investigation. Then entire unit must be shut down
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on January twentieth any existing indictments. They arrested a man
from Georgia on election day, a key swing state the
FBI Counter Terrorism Task for arresting a man for his
participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege Division must be
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shut down immediately, and then address the cases that have
already been litigated, the convictions, the cree deals, and those
wishing in prison or awaiting sentencing. These judges, by the way,
DC are still moving these cases forwards. I heard from
a J sixer the other day who said his trial
date has just been set for January ninth. These judges
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are not giving this up because they will have nothing
else to do after January twentieth. You could go to
that court tacket any day of the week. Seventy five
percent of the cases before those judges relate to January sixth.
I have no idea what they're going to do after
January twentieth. I do have an idea though some of
them should be impeached, some of them should retire. Quite frankly,
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the entire DC federal court system should be shut down
after what they've done to these individuals broke the law,
overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some cases by
the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not match the law.
After the egregious misconduct in that courthouse, it should be
completely shut down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Julie Kell, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the
j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've
done on this topic. And as we get more to
the action phase of this, where people will get the
clemency that they deserve, we will be talking to you
more about it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you
so much for covering my work.
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in North Carolina has an interesting question relating to the
legal situation. Jeff, what have you got for us?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hey, guys, love what you do.
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Keep up with great work, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
My question is, once Trump's out of office, even though
they're the DOJ's dropping these charges, when he's out of
office this time, are they going.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To drop it in a way where it cannot be
brought again? This is a good question, a really good question.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I think that, I mean, Clay, my sense would
be that dropping the charges, does not meet does not
create immunity. The statute limitations on some of these things
you'd have to look at. But Trump may have to
pardon himself just to be on the safe side anyway,
and so maybe some other people along with him. Yeah,
that's a smart question. I would encourage him to go
ahead and do the pardon. Now, remember the pardon doesn't
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pardon power dismissal of charges. We're just talking about federal
in theory. He still is going to be sentenced on
November twenty sixth for the felony charges in New York
City and that Looney been a district attorney. Fanny Willis
down in the Atlanta area still has that case. Those
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is worth repeating. The election counting is still freaking going on,
and as we are all talking to you, there are
still counting of votes going on. We should mention, by
the way, before positive Dave McCormick yesterday was declared the
winner in Pennsylvania by the AP. Right after we went
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off the air, Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey,
things look really good. Here here's the latest. So they
are trying to fight against it. But Dave McCormick is
going to win Pennsylvania. He presently has. As they continue
to count I'm bad at Mathbuck, but about a thirty
six thousand vote lead, and that is a very comfortable
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lead that he has as basically all the votes are
in huge win to flip Pennsylvania. But Arizona counting is
still going on, and Carrie Lake, with about twenty three
percent of the vote out, keeps adding on votes and
she is now only down about thirty eight thousand in Arizona,
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with as many as forty four hundred thousand votes still
to be counted there. And Trump is winning Arizona by
a large margin. Buck, It may end up, in fact,
I think it is going to end up of the
quote unquote battleground states. Trump's now up six in Arizona
with about seventy five percent of the vote in. Now,
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this should never be allowed to continue. Also, in the
Senate race in Nevada, it's been going back and forth
Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown down about fifteen thousand votes
in that one. Trump has won both Nevada and Arizona
in the presidential race. But the fact that we're still
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sitting here talking about counting going on as we head
into the weekend. According to the New York Times, only
fifty eight percent of the vote, Buck in California has
been counted fifty eight percent. We counted votes faster back
in the eighteen hundreds than we do now. Now with
that in mind, in the House, I want to update
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you Republicans have the lead in let's see nineteen twenty,
twenty one, twenty two. If I were betting right now,
I would say that Republicans are going to end up
with two hundred and twenty two or two hundred and
twenty three seats, which is very similar to the margin
right now. It takes two eighteen for House control. But
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one reason we don't have that control officially decided is
because California and Arizona are dragging on their count to
such an extent that we still don't have definitive answers
from many of those House districts out there. Frankly, it's
it's unacceptable that we could be in this position, but
I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that those
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counts are still going on as we head into the weekend.
And also, ad Buck, it's not inconceivable that the election
for president could have come down to Arizona and Nevada
and we could all still be sitting here multiple days later,
uncertain as to who is going to be the president
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
This has to get fixed.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for
both sides to see that this is unacceptable. You know,
California is a one party state, and that's a warning
to all of us. They took over one of the
most beautiful places in the world that have turned it
into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's still beautiful. Look, I still love California. We've got I.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Think we have more listeners play in Texas than any
other state, but I think California is number two just
in terms of over sure we can look at this
on the digital more than we can easily on the
radio side, but we've got a lot of listeners or
in the California, California area, in the state of californ
you just because it's such a huge state and there
are a lot of Republicans there. So I don't know
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what has to happen for them to see that this
is unacceptable, because it starts to look like one side
just doesn't want to fix it, and I get that.
I know people are thinking to themselves like, well, there's
one side that doesn't want voter id and there's one
side that does.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I know.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So this is how we put the pressure on me. Say, hey, guys,
Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled
Uh what were they? What were the other was the
other thing? That was the chads and the something or others.
There was another term that came out right for the
Florida two times the indentations, but there was a phrase
for dimpled chads, like the what extent had did a
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punch ballot count?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
For people who didn't live through that, it's crazy. I
don't understand. Why can they not just every state copy
what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I was going to ask the same question. That's what
I mean. They Florida. It's like they know they got them.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's rock solid done, you know, and and I and it.
They did this because of what was going on for
these other states. It just makes their it makes their
governance look like it is absurd and lacking. And it's
just not a good partisan basis. You have Democrat, Republican independent.
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It's not a good look for election counting to go
on for multiple days. We need finality, we need definity
and to me, like a clear result should be something
that everybody wants as rapidly as we possibly can. And
if Florida can count in a state of twenty million
plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the polls closing,
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how in the world can every other state not just
copy what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Maybe somebody from California GOP can let us know where
the where the roadblock is on this one, or why
why this can't seem to get fixed? So yeah, no,
I think I think McCormick's looking good. It is going
to be very tight there for Kerry Lake at the end.
I know we don't have to fit.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
When do we do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
We know when we will know when the house is
done and over with one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We don't, right it could?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I mean, we've got it, I think if you look
at the returns and the percentages and everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
But I don't think it'll be till next week. At
some point, Buck, let's have some fun. I was going
to say, I know we're finishing out the week. It's
been so much fun.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I've got two different clips of incredibly arrogant libs saying
that they were going to win the first one. I
just want to play it again because I think it's
my favorite clip that we have ever played. This is
doctor Arlene telling the story of how.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
She berated it again.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I want to play it again because in case you
missed it, and then we've got another one that's good.
This is her berating a liquor store maga clerk who
I really want to hear from. I would love if
people could track this guy down as she was buying
her champagne about how the women of America we're going
to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win. We play yesterday.
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You guys have loved it. Here she is listen to
cut two.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
We're closing in on almost five pm Eastern time, and
I've been trucking everything that's been going on across the
country today. And my most important encounter was when I
went helped to get my champagne. I was talking to
the guy in the store, of course, asking him did
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he vote, and he said he did early voting, and
he asked me if I early voted, and he asked me,
you know why I was getting the champagne, and I said,
because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight, and
he just looked at me with kind of like a
smirk on his face, and I said, you know she's
going to win this, right, And he says, oh, well,
it's very very close. And I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Says, well, what do you mean.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I said, no, it's not. The women of America are
making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all
comes down to, and the women are voting in numbers
relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And
I said to him, she's going to take every one
of the swing states plus O plus Iowa. And he said, oh,
but the numbers are so close. I said, I'm a
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political analyst. I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.
She's taking this election. I've said to him, you realize,
And he didn't tell me who he voted for, but
of course I knew, and I said, you do realize
you wasted your vote, right, And I didn't care. I
walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh why I can't get enough of this video book.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I watched it five times yesterday, just sitting laughing uproariously
at this arrogant, totally wrong woman who was lecturing a
guy working in a liquor store about how she was
a political analyst and an expert, and the women were
turning out and unbelievable numbers and they were going to
win Iowa.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They lost Iowa by fourteen. By the way, the commalos can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I My favorite part of that is the well I
am a political analyst, like, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
In that case, I guess discussion about anything. And then
I wanted to play this because we talked about it yesterday. Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
These people who are the anti Trump Republicans. I actually
even heard Jinsaki going off on them on MSNBC, like
we give them way too much attention, we give them
way too much credence.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Nobody cares about them.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, you think all of us were saying, Hey, the
idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage and
somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to
vote for you. Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Buck. This guy has raised.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hundreds of millions of dollars to claim and that he
is a Republican who is opposed to Trump. Here was
what he said on election Day about how bad Trump
was going to get beat. He was wrong about all
of it. But I want you to remember this whenever
you see these guys getting trumpeted out there, as if
there's some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence, and
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so listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in
the election.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow. Everybody.
Number One, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly. He's
gonna be He's gonna be wrecked. I don't know what
the Electoral College account's going to be at the end
of this, but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna
get hard for him. Their panic is extraordinary. Their events
in Georgia and North Carolina are basically about as well
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attend that is a Pokemon card trading convention in ass Crack, Alabama.
This is a campaign in free fall.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It's really, really dumb.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You've got a campaign ending in chaos. You've got another
campaign that was able to deploy ninety thousand volunteers to
knock on three million doors. Guys, the better campaign is
going to win this one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Do you know about him? Do you know like his past?
I know I've known him for having Adam, I've known.
I don't know him, but like I've been aware of
him for years. I've met him once or twice. He's
a Republican Clay or.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Least I know. I know EU Redican Project people are
I mean, they flipped.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, he says, he says he's a Republican, And it's
not possible to be more wrong than that, and to
be so smug. I mean, look, we took a little
risk in being so definitive that Trump was gonna win
the election. I mean, if we had been wrong, we
would have taken our lumps, you know. But we were right,
you know what I mean. And you know, people like
(30:30):
this and and that political analyst lady, I'm a political analyst.
Uh they I'm sorry, man, you couldn't if we held
the contest for the most annoying Kamala voter in the country,
they couldn't beat that woman. And she she is number one. Perfect,
She is the champion. Give her the belt. She's perfect.
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And look, we were hyper rational on this show. We
looked at all the early voting numbers, I went into
them all the time, analyze them, and we nailed it.
We got every single thing right. There were lots of
signs out there, and I get it was close. It
was It's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine
your victory or defeat. I mean, that's the America we
(31:13):
live in right now. But to think that they were
gonna win Iowa, I mean, you have to be utterly
delusional to it. Bought into that an Seltzer poll in Iowa.
And even for her like her career is over, how
could you ever trust somebody again based on being that
utterly wrong. That's one of the things that I think
(31:36):
is maybe the lesson for me. MSNBC buck has been
wrong on everything Russia, collusion, masking, COVID shots, Trump, going
to jail. I mean, you can run through basically every
major issue that has happened in the last seven or
eight years, by and large, and they've been wrong on
(31:58):
all of it. Why do people keep showing up and
watching a program where they're being told things that they
are going to be objectively wrong. I'm curious whether MSNBC's
ratings will actually fall because how could you trust those
people when they told you, Oh, Kamala is running a
great campaign. Joe Biden's fit as sharp as attack behind
closed doors. They lied to you for years, regardless of
(32:20):
what your politics are, and you're gonna keep showing up
and letting them continue.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
To lie to you.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just if you find out that you've been lied to,
you should change the media. I think that you consume.
I mean that seems like a rational thing to me,
and I think that's one reason the mainstream quote unquote
mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent.
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We almost won.
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We were right on all three of those. We were
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Could have been a perfect week. Trump wins and we
went on the ten to one. But you can still
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maybe you want to kick back, have a few beers
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this weekend, watch some games. I know I'm gonna be
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Clay and Buck before we send you off for the weekend,
want to remind you for your listening enjoyment. There is
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I get them all in here. Sean Parnell, Carol Marquitz,
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them all off the top of my head. Great things,
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driving to wherever you're going to celebrate this weekend, and please,
I really mean this. It is actually something I learned
from my dad. He always just said, celebrate good moments,
(34:26):
take the time, do something that you will. You know
that allows you to associate the good thing that's happened
with something that you enjoyed, with something that was meaningful
with family. You know that stuff matters. It's been a
great week for America. Go do something You'll be like,
you know how I celebrated the restoration of America that
election week I did. And it's whatever, you know, Like
(34:47):
I said, go go go bass fishing, go bowling, go
to the big football game in your area. Whatever it is.
Twenty what do you doing this weekend to celebrate? You're
going to go shooting guns? Yeah, shooting guns with my brother. Yeah.
I've got the twentieth law school reunion weekend at Vanderbilt University,
So I've got a bunch of friends that are in
(35:09):
town for that. I'm gonna be doing that Friday and Saturday.
I think I'm gonna run by and try to watch
South Carolina Vanderbilt. I'm in town this weekend. That's the
homecoming game. Vanderbilt had a pretty good football team so
far this year. So my three favorite years in terms
of just sheer fun or the three years I spent
at Vanderbilt Law School. So I'm looking forward to seeing
everybody there, even though some of those people are gonna
(35:31):
be like, I can't pull it. Lot of lawyers vote
for kamalas so kind of. I had a friend tell
me perct a very funny, sorry, a very funny story
where he said that he got a call from an
old colleague, a woman, and she's like on election day
and he worked with her for years, and he goes
and she goes, are we gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Pull it out? You know, like, are we gonna pull
this off? And he didn't know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Which side, and he's like, I was trying to dance around.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Sure enough.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
She was a big time Kamalist, but he was trying
to play that, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, yeah,
I think we're gonna pull it off.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Like what do you think?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You know? You know?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So, yeah, there you go. Maybe next week we can
have some fun. Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I bet some of our listeners did have to pretend
that they didn't vote Trump. I think there are some
of you out there should take some work. Oh yeah,
at work, maybe in relationship you know what, let's put
this out also for VIPs and talkback clips. If you've
had to pretend for the sake of peace and harmony
in your workplace, in your home, whatever that you voted
(36:33):
not Trump, we want to email us vip or talk.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Back on the iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And some of you may be thinking about that on
Thanksgiving already.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Flat Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in hour number three, final hour of an
incredible week of fun. Let's close out and celebrate. We
begin the hour with our good friend Julie Kelly, who
has been on top of jan six Jack Smith, everything
else for years now coming on to talk about all
(00:27):
of this with us. But I just want to start
with this, Julie, how much did you enjoy Tuesday night?
Was there a moment that for you was like the
apex of happiness? I know we've joked before about what
having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
I hope you thought about that idea at least once
as all the returns were coming in. Do you still
(00:49):
just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile
on your face?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Totally. Clay and I did repost our conversation from a
few months ago when you said you love to have
a camera in the room when Trump won a camera
on Jack Smith. I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I
woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth ers,
(01:14):
knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them.
And then, you know, as the night progressed and the
returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay
Sixer started to text me and I think it was
just like later that night realizing, Wow, the good the
good guys when I think it was like one o'clock
(01:35):
or so, the good guys won, the bad guys lost
are going to face repercussions, which of course I will
happily work on. And then most importantly, the burden lifted
off of JA sixers, knowing that there's hope for them,
relief around the corner, and exoneration at the very least
(01:55):
claimed up their own government not referring to them domestic
Paris anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Julie, can you just for everybody you know, we've had
you on a lot to talk about the J six defendants,
give a sense, because you know, the media and a
lot of the media that I'm talking about those who
listen to us and who are part of our extended
radio family here don't pay attention to. But for a
lot of Americans, what they've been told is there's all
this violence, and only the most serious people have faced
(02:25):
any you know, serious crimes, have faced any consequests from
January sixth. Some of the people who are who have
or are serving prison sentences on the lower end in
terms of offenses include what like tell us some of
those stories so people can really know this is what
was done to them and this is how unjust it was.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four
common misdemeanors that the government that this DOJ has brought
against J six ers for the very first time. Early
on the Chief Judge Beryl Howell, the shameless Trump hater,
she overthought Special Council Robert Mueller's probe and then ran
the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA
(03:07):
sixth prosecution, she openly seven courts, we never deal with
Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly what
they've been doing. So they more than I think seven
hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors applied to them.
And this is parading in the Capitol, this is being
(03:30):
on restricted grounds where a Secret Service protectee is disorder
the conduct, and on Capitol grounds just being there even
have engaged in disorderly conducts. So there are four common
misdemeanors Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the j dragged
TODC for core proceedings and in almost every case claim
(03:51):
bucks faced some sort of prison time, whether it was
thirty days or some met Some were sentenced to the
maximum number of months, which is twelve months for these misdemeanors,
and they were thrown in federal prison for this. So
that to me is the lowest king fruit that I
(04:12):
think is something that the President can sign up on
day one, is immediate pardons for all of them, the
misdemeaning cases. Then you get into trickier areas well, as
you know, the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this.
The Supreme Court overturned how the DOJ unlawfully applied fifteen
twelve C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was
(04:34):
the post on run tampering with evidence and documents that
you also used for the very first time in J
six cases. More than three hundred J sixers charged with
that felony, so that has been overturned. Many defendants have
gone to court speaking that to have that conviction, whether
(04:55):
they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have
those convictions vacated. So all of those individuals should easily
be pardoned in the existing any existing indictment. Strap then
you get into trickier areas assault on police. Right, they're
a handful of those cases that really need to be
(05:15):
closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for
the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting
or interfering with police, that's the statute assault interfering inhibiting
law enforcement. This could be to someone who yelled at
(05:35):
a police officer, who touched a riot shield, who threw
a water bottle towards police Siennes, and we see things
like that all the time in protests, correct, We thought
certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but they were
never charged with this federal statute, So we need to
look more closely. I think that will be the sickier area,
the grayer area as to where pardons should apply. Even
(06:00):
the most egregious cases, their sentences should be commuted. You
have a man, Julian Cator, who has been in prison
since March of twenty twenty one his arrest. He was
one of two of the fall guys for the death
of Brian's Sickness, claiming that because he was hit with
pepper spray. That's how he died of a stroke the
(06:21):
next day. Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in New
Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused of spraying Brian
Signick with a small thing of pepper spray. He languished
in the DC ulag awaiting trial. He was tormented for
almost two years before he accepted a previal. Then he
was sentenced to seven years in federal prison. That is,
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there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let
alone in Washington DC. Those are the sort of cases
that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and cream
these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to
the sentences that they've received.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's
been covering the jan sixth cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions,
the law fair against Trump in general with US now
for years. I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was,
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,
(07:24):
Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is
the latest on these cases and where should it go?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
From here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Let me ask you like broad question, if you know,
if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should we do
about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you suggest Republicans
coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator? Where should
this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised by how
quickly all of this house of cards collapsed?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yes? I am so. Number One, the Florida Document's case.
As you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July
based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ
and Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what
we're expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back
that appeal, drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands,
(08:14):
which is very interesting as to how it will affect
future Special councils. Number two, I will admit I'm surprised
the Jack Smith and the DOJ is dropping the Washington
case so quickly because Judge Chuckkin on October twenty eighth,
a few days before the election, set deadlines in that
(08:35):
case into mid and late December. She wanted to drag
this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won.
I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue
to pursue those deadlines. Those motions have one more court perance,
right to drag out all this evidence before judge. Chuck hints,
I really thought that they were going to hold that
(08:56):
to the last minute, Steven. If Donald Trump won, that
is not the case. So it does look like this
laws there really has backfired. Now you saw Jim Jordan today,
a letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee. He
instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,
(09:16):
evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,
this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got
a piece on my substant you classified with Lutelli that
spells out the prosebatorial of use and misconduct in both
of those cases, especially the Florida case, where you guys
know I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering first
(09:38):
him what was happening there, and the revelations about you know,
the mar Lago armed grades where agents violated even the
very broad terms of that search warrant. There are accusations
of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in that case,
threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a close aid
personal aids of Donald truy Up, who Jay Bratt, who
(10:01):
was one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully him
and threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and becoming
a government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality
in the Special Council's office, not just Jack Smith, but
his prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident
(10:22):
from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases, and
also guys, as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent
at least fifty million dollars two years of this investigation,
millions and contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white
shoe law firms, but also more than eleven million dollars
(10:43):
in salaries and benefits. And this was just the first
fourteen months. By the way, this is probably topping twenty
million dollars just in salaries and benefits. Because he's way
behind in his obligated required financial reporting. All of his expenses,
including his personal protective details. Every single dollar must be
(11:05):
accounted for, because I want to see where those contracts went,
and who those employees were, and how they spent so
much money. And then at the end you might come
to be handed.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her sub stack. You
want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,
you're in contact with both the Trump side of this
equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.
Just just what's it like for them to know that? Well,
how much do we know at this point? I mean,
my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be
(11:40):
sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.
What can you tell us about where this is going?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages
from attorneys from JAY sixers and their loved ones, so
relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work
really begins. So it's just, you know, putting together the teas.
I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to
the part in commutation project. Whoever, his new Attorney General
(12:10):
will be particularly in acting DCUs attorney where all these
cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately, on
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, shut down what the Mayor
Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves COJ refers to as the
Capital siege investigation. Then entire unit must be shut down
(12:31):
on January twentieth any existing indictments. They arrested a man
from Georgia on election day, a key swing state the
FBI Counter Terrorism Task for arresting a man for his
participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege Division must be
(12:51):
shut down immediately, and then address the cases that have
already been litigated, the convictions, the cree deals, and those
wishing in prison or awaiting sentencing. These judges, by the way,
DC are still moving these cases forwards. I heard from
a J sixer the other day who said his trial
date has just been set for January ninth. These judges
(13:13):
are not giving this up because they will have nothing
else to do after January twentieth. You could go to
that court tacket any day of the week. Seventy five
percent of the cases before those judges relate to January sixth.
I have no idea what they're going to do after
January twentieth. I do have an idea though some of
them should be impeached, some of them should retire. Quite frankly,
(13:35):
the entire DC federal court system should be shut down
after what they've done to these individuals broke the law,
overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some cases by
the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not match the law.
After the egregious misconduct in that courthouse, it should be
completely shut down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Julie Kell, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the
j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've
done on this topic. And as we get more to
the action phase of this, where people will get the
clemency that they deserve, we will be talking to you
more about it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you
so much for covering my work.
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in North Carolina has an interesting question relating to the
legal situation. Jeff, what have you got for us?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hey, guys, love what you do.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Keep up with great work, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
My question is, once Trump's out of office, even though
they're the DOJ's dropping these charges, when he's out of
office this time, are they going.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To drop it in a way where it cannot be
brought again? This is a good question, a really good question.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I think that, I mean, Clay, my sense would
be that dropping the charges, does not meet does not
create immunity. The statute limitations on some of these things
you'd have to look at. But Trump may have to
pardon himself just to be on the safe side anyway,
and so maybe some other people along with him. Yeah,
that's a smart question. I would encourage him to go
ahead and do the pardon. Now, remember the pardon doesn't
(17:26):
pardon power dismissal of charges. We're just talking about federal
in theory. He still is going to be sentenced on
November twenty sixth for the felony charges in New York
City and that Looney been a district attorney. Fanny Willis
down in the Atlanta area still has that case. Those
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is worth repeating. The election counting is still freaking going on,
and as we are all talking to you, there are
still counting of votes going on. We should mention, by
the way, before positive Dave McCormick yesterday was declared the
winner in Pennsylvania by the AP. Right after we went
(19:22):
off the air, Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey,
things look really good. Here here's the latest. So they
are trying to fight against it. But Dave McCormick is
going to win Pennsylvania. He presently has. As they continue
to count I'm bad at Mathbuck, but about a thirty
six thousand vote lead, and that is a very comfortable
(19:44):
lead that he has as basically all the votes are
in huge win to flip Pennsylvania. But Arizona counting is
still going on, and Carrie Lake, with about twenty three
percent of the vote out, keeps adding on votes and
she is now only down about thirty eight thousand in Arizona,
(20:08):
with as many as forty four hundred thousand votes still
to be counted there. And Trump is winning Arizona by
a large margin. Buck, It may end up, in fact,
I think it is going to end up of the
quote unquote battleground states. Trump's now up six in Arizona
with about seventy five percent of the vote in. Now,
(20:29):
this should never be allowed to continue. Also, in the
Senate race in Nevada, it's been going back and forth
Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown down about fifteen thousand votes
in that one. Trump has won both Nevada and Arizona
in the presidential race. But the fact that we're still
(20:50):
sitting here talking about counting going on as we head
into the weekend. According to the New York Times, only
fifty eight percent of the vote, Buck in California has
been counted fifty eight percent. We counted votes faster back
in the eighteen hundreds than we do now. Now with
that in mind, in the House, I want to update
(21:13):
you Republicans have the lead in let's see nineteen twenty,
twenty one, twenty two. If I were betting right now,
I would say that Republicans are going to end up
with two hundred and twenty two or two hundred and
twenty three seats, which is very similar to the margin
right now. It takes two eighteen for House control. But
(21:35):
one reason we don't have that control officially decided is
because California and Arizona are dragging on their count to
such an extent that we still don't have definitive answers
from many of those House districts out there. Frankly, it's
it's unacceptable that we could be in this position, but
I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that those
(21:58):
counts are still going on as we head into the weekend.
And also, ad Buck, it's not inconceivable that the election
for president could have come down to Arizona and Nevada
and we could all still be sitting here multiple days later,
uncertain as to who is going to be the president
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
This has to get fixed.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for
both sides to see that this is unacceptable. You know,
California is a one party state, and that's a warning
to all of us. They took over one of the
most beautiful places in the world that have turned it
into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's still beautiful. Look, I still love California. We've got I.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Think we have more listeners play in Texas than any
other state, but I think California is number two just
in terms of over sure we can look at this
on the digital more than we can easily on the
radio side, but we've got a lot of listeners or
in the California, California area, in the state of californ
you just because it's such a huge state and there
are a lot of Republicans there. So I don't know
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what has to happen for them to see that this
is unacceptable, because it starts to look like one side
just doesn't want to fix it, and I get that.
I know people are thinking to themselves like, well, there's
one side that doesn't want voter id and there's one
side that does.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I know.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So this is how we put the pressure on me. Say, hey, guys,
Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled
Uh what were they? What were the other was the
other thing? That was the chads and the something or others.
There was another term that came out right for the
Florida two times the indentations, but there was a phrase
for dimpled chads, like the what extent had did a
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punch ballot count?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
For people who didn't live through that, it's crazy. I
don't understand. Why can they not just every state copy
what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I was going to ask the same question. That's what
I mean. They Florida. It's like they know they got them.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's rock solid done, you know, and and I and it.
They did this because of what was going on for
these other states. It just makes their it makes their
governance look like it is absurd and lacking. And it's
just not a good partisan basis. You have Democrat, Republican independent.
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It's not a good look for election counting to go
on for multiple days. We need finality, we need definity
and to me, like a clear result should be something
that everybody wants as rapidly as we possibly can. And
if Florida can count in a state of twenty million
plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the polls closing,
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how in the world can every other state not just
copy what Florida does.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Maybe somebody from California GOP can let us know where
the where the roadblock is on this one, or why
why this can't seem to get fixed? So yeah, no,
I think I think McCormick's looking good. It is going
to be very tight there for Kerry Lake at the end.
I know we don't have to fit.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
When do we do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
We know when we will know when the house is
done and over with one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We don't, right it could?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I mean, we've got it, I think if you look
at the returns and the percentages and everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
But I don't think it'll be till next week. At
some point, Buck, let's have some fun. I was going
to say, I know we're finishing out the week. It's
been so much fun.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I've got two different clips of incredibly arrogant libs saying
that they were going to win the first one. I
just want to play it again because I think it's
my favorite clip that we have ever played. This is
doctor Arlene telling the story of how.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
She berated it again.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I want to play it again because in case you
missed it, and then we've got another one that's good.
This is her berating a liquor store maga clerk who
I really want to hear from. I would love if
people could track this guy down as she was buying
her champagne about how the women of America we're going
to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win. We play yesterday.
(26:00):
You guys have loved it. Here she is listen to
cut two.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
We're closing in on almost five pm Eastern time, and
I've been trucking everything that's been going on across the
country today. And my most important encounter was when I
went helped to get my champagne. I was talking to
the guy in the store, of course, asking him did
(26:23):
he vote, and he said he did early voting, and
he asked me if I early voted, and he asked me,
you know why I was getting the champagne, and I said,
because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight, and
he just looked at me with kind of like a
smirk on his face, and I said, you know she's
going to win this, right, And he says, oh, well,
it's very very close. And I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Says, well, what do you mean.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I said, no, it's not. The women of America are
making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all
comes down to, and the women are voting in numbers
relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And
I said to him, she's going to take every one
of the swing states plus O plus Iowa. And he said, oh,
but the numbers are so close. I said, I'm a
(27:08):
political analyst. I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.
She's taking this election. I've said to him, you realize,
And he didn't tell me who he voted for, but
of course I knew, and I said, you do realize
you wasted your vote, right, And I didn't care. I
walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh why I can't get enough of this video book.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I watched it five times yesterday, just sitting laughing uproariously
at this arrogant, totally wrong woman who was lecturing a
guy working in a liquor store about how she was
a political analyst and an expert, and the women were
turning out and unbelievable numbers and they were going to
win Iowa.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They lost Iowa by fourteen. By the way, the commalos can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I My favorite part of that is the well I
am a political analyst, like, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
In that case, I guess discussion about anything. And then
I wanted to play this because we talked about it yesterday. Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
These people who are the anti Trump Republicans. I actually
even heard Jinsaki going off on them on MSNBC, like
we give them way too much attention, we give them
way too much credence.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Nobody cares about them.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, you think all of us were saying, Hey, the
idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage and
somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to
vote for you. Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Buck. This guy has raised.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hundreds of millions of dollars to claim and that he
is a Republican who is opposed to Trump. Here was
what he said on election Day about how bad Trump
was going to get beat. He was wrong about all
of it. But I want you to remember this whenever
you see these guys getting trumpeted out there, as if
there's some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence, and
(29:00):
so listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in
the election.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow. Everybody.
Number One, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly. He's
gonna be He's gonna be wrecked. I don't know what
the Electoral College account's going to be at the end
of this, but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna
get hard for him. Their panic is extraordinary. Their events
in Georgia and North Carolina are basically about as well
(29:26):
attend that is a Pokemon card trading convention in ass Crack, Alabama.
This is a campaign in free fall.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It's really, really dumb.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You've got a campaign ending in chaos. You've got another
campaign that was able to deploy ninety thousand volunteers to
knock on three million doors. Guys, the better campaign is
going to win this one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Do you know about him? Do you know like his past?
I know I've known him for having Adam, I've known.
I don't know him, but like I've been aware of
him for years. I've met him once or twice. He's
a Republican Clay or.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Least I know. I know EU Redican Project people are
I mean, they flipped.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, he says, he says he's a Republican, And it's
not possible to be more wrong than that, and to
be so smug. I mean, look, we took a little
risk in being so definitive that Trump was gonna win
the election. I mean, if we had been wrong, we
would have taken our lumps, you know. But we were right,
you know what I mean. And you know, people like
(30:30):
this and and that political analyst lady, I'm a political analyst.
Uh they I'm sorry, man, you couldn't if we held
the contest for the most annoying Kamala voter in the country,
they couldn't beat that woman. And she she is number one. Perfect,
She is the champion. Give her the belt. She's perfect.
(30:52):
And look, we were hyper rational on this show. We
looked at all the early voting numbers, I went into
them all the time, analyze them, and we nailed it.
We got every single thing right. There were lots of
signs out there, and I get it was close. It
was It's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine
your victory or defeat. I mean, that's the America we
(31:13):
live in right now. But to think that they were
gonna win Iowa, I mean, you have to be utterly
delusional to it. Bought into that an Seltzer poll in Iowa.
And even for her like her career is over, how
could you ever trust somebody again based on being that
utterly wrong. That's one of the things that I think
(31:36):
is maybe the lesson for me. MSNBC buck has been
wrong on everything Russia, collusion, masking, COVID shots, Trump, going
to jail. I mean, you can run through basically every
major issue that has happened in the last seven or
eight years, by and large, and they've been wrong on
(31:58):
all of it. Why do people keep showing up and
watching a program where they're being told things that they
are going to be objectively wrong. I'm curious whether MSNBC's
ratings will actually fall because how could you trust those
people when they told you, Oh, Kamala is running a
great campaign. Joe Biden's fit as sharp as attack behind
closed doors. They lied to you for years, regardless of
(32:20):
what your politics are, and you're gonna keep showing up
and letting them continue.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
To lie to you.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just if you find out that you've been lied to,
you should change the media. I think that you consume.
I mean that seems like a rational thing to me,
and I think that's one reason the mainstream quote unquote
mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
We almost won.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
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We were right on all three of those. We were
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Could have been a perfect week. Trump wins and we
went on the ten to one. But you can still
have a lot of fun. If you're a football fan,
maybe you want to kick back, have a few beers
(33:02):
this weekend, watch some games. I know I'm gonna be
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We are the dominant side. We are the victorious one.
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Clay and Buck before we send you off for the weekend,
want to remind you for your listening enjoyment. There is
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driving to wherever you're going to celebrate this weekend, and please,
I really mean this. It is actually something I learned
from my dad. He always just said, celebrate good moments,
(34:26):
take the time, do something that you will. You know
that allows you to associate the good thing that's happened
with something that you enjoyed, with something that was meaningful
with family. You know that stuff matters. It's been a
great week for America. Go do something You'll be like,
you know how I celebrated the restoration of America that
election week I did. And it's whatever, you know, Like
(34:47):
I said, go go go bass fishing, go bowling, go
to the big football game in your area. Whatever it is.
Twenty what do you doing this weekend to celebrate? You're
going to go shooting guns? Yeah, shooting guns with my brother. Yeah.
I've got the twentieth law school reunion weekend at Vanderbilt University,
So I've got a bunch of friends that are in
(35:09):
town for that. I'm gonna be doing that Friday and Saturday.
I think I'm gonna run by and try to watch
South Carolina Vanderbilt. I'm in town this weekend. That's the
homecoming game. Vanderbilt had a pretty good football team so
far this year. So my three favorite years in terms
of just sheer fun or the three years I spent
at Vanderbilt Law School. So I'm looking forward to seeing
everybody there, even though some of those people are gonna
(35:31):
be like, I can't pull it. Lot of lawyers vote
for kamalas so kind of. I had a friend tell
me perct a very funny, sorry, a very funny story
where he said that he got a call from an
old colleague, a woman, and she's like on election day
and he worked with her for years, and he goes
and she goes, are we gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Pull it out? You know, like, are we gonna pull
this off? And he didn't know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Which side, and he's like, I was trying to dance around.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Sure enough.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
She was a big time Kamalist, but he was trying
to play that, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, yeah,
I think we're gonna pull it off.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Like what do you think?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You know? You know?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So, yeah, there you go. Maybe next week we can
have some fun. Buck.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I bet some of our listeners did have to pretend
that they didn't vote Trump. I think there are some
of you out there should take some work. Oh yeah,
at work, maybe in relationship you know what, let's put
this out also for VIPs and talkback clips. If you've
had to pretend for the sake of peace and harmony
in your workplace, in your home, whatever that you voted
(36:33):
not Trump, we want to email us vip or talk.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Back on the iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And some of you may be thinking about that on
Thanksgiving already.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
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