May 24, 2023 • 36 mins
Bud Light contagion tanking Anheuser-Busch. KJP trashes Florida with "firehose of falsehoods." VIP emails on whether DeSantis should pledge to pardon Trump. Former congressional candidate Karoline Leavitt, now spokeswoman for Pro-Trump PAC, MAGA Inc., joins C&B to talk about how the right wins the culture wars. The ins and outs of beer, wine and cheese tasting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay and Bought kicks off right now, everybody,
and a lot going on just to recap a little
bit of what we've been discussing here. So tonight at
six o'clock Eastern time will be the announcement of Ron DeSantis'
presidential campaign on Twitter with Elon Muss and David Sachs.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Is going to be.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Moderating or just posting along with them. Who's a tech
guy and a Musk confidant, So we're all looking to
see how that goes. Trump is firing off Salvos at
Ron de sanct demonious. Look, I know people are gonna
subman might think I'm biased. Trump has had better nicknames
(00:53):
for people. This isn't a this isn't a meatball. Ron
was never going to work at all. We all knew
that one. But sanctimonious, I don't think it. I don't
think it really hits low energy. Jeb Little Marco, Crooked
Crooked Hill, Crooked Hillary may have won him the election.
I mean the nicknames, so we'll see. I mean, the
sanctimonious is kind of long tough to spell. An effective
(01:15):
nickname points out something that people might already have in
the back of their mind. I don't think of Ryn
DeSantis as really sanctimonious.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Does that matter? Like Hillary is crooked? And I don't
know about Jeb Bush's energy, but he definitely Like when
he brought the exclamation point after his name, it was like,
you're trying to wasn't you the guy?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Also, who's who is at the rally, Who's like, please clap?
He asked them to clap, and that was not That
was a moment you don't want to be. You want
to be telling people please clap for me. Uh So
that that was not good for him. So anyway, we're
looking at the DeSantis announcement coming up tonight. I do
also I want to talk about the White House's response
(01:58):
to some of what's going on here with Crene Jean
Pierre and you know, speaking on behalf of Biden. But
first up, Clay, have you seen this yet? The we've
talked about percentages. Have you seen what the total value
loss so far? Now this is in stock for Anheuser
(02:19):
Busch INBEVZ since the controversy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Do you know the number? I was gonna do it
I do know the number, but I bet our audience
does not know the number.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Fifteen point seven billion dollars in value lost. Fifteen point
seven billion. Now it's also crossed. Over the first week
of there's people were saying, oh the stock is you know,
stup three dollars, a stone three dollars. They were all mocking, no, no,
now this is there. They're hemorrhaging earnings based on what
happened here. So that's I think that's significant. I mean,
(02:48):
when you're talking about a fifteen billion dollar loss in
stock value.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It also Buck. Remember initial they were like, oh, everybody
will just drink some other product. Anheuser Busch has a
lot of products. I think a lot of people have
gotten smart and they're like, Okay, I won't drink Budweiser.
In other words, the bud Light negativity is now infecting
other ab brands because I think the people who cared
about this, that people would just like, oh, whatever, it's
(03:14):
not going to have an impact. It's having so much
of an impact. Buck, there's now a report that there
isn't enough Cores Light and Miller Light available potentially for
Memorial Day weekend in some markets. And I'm getting pictures
sent to me all the time. Walmart and a lot
of other mass retailers are basically giving away bud Light
right now because remember there's expiration dates on when this
(03:37):
product can be consumed, and so it's not only that
bud Light is tanking, it's that bud Light's competitors are
being lifted just by not having made a super woke
advertising decision.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's remarkable to see how short sighted it was. I
also think, what is the chance that anybody if cores
Light versus Miller Lite. I would want to know what
percentage of beer drinkers could tell the difference between those
two beers as well. I know we get we get
pillaried for this, both of us. We get pillaried.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
If people now are mad at you over this, I
will continue to hammer it home. If you have a
hot dog and you are sitting watching a ballgame, Uh,
there's no way you can tell the difference in a
plastic cup whether you're drinking bud Light, Miller Lite, or
course Light. That is why I think this boycott is
so effective, because if bud Light tasted so much different
than everybody else, I think it would be harder for
(04:34):
people to change their buying patterns. It doesn't. It's marketing.
It's with a lot of beers.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's why they spend so much money on the bikinis
and beaches and guys, you know, guys with beer guts
who were like, hey, we with all the bikini babes
you know in the eighties. Uh, that's it's all. It's
all in the marketing. So anyway, we're continuing to look
at that closely. But I wanted to let the White
House way in on a controversy here from early during
the week.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We told you that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Senior figures within the NAACP said that there was a
or talked about the travel advisory they had put into
place for Florida. That Florida, the state of is an unsafe, unwelcoming,
dangerous place, a terrorist state, I think is what somebody
said about it this week on the left for minorities
(05:27):
and for members of the lgbt QIA plus community, well,
Creine Jean Pierre was asked about this.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Let's let everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Hear what this White House says about a state that
they know they're going to lose in twenty twenty four,
so they have no problem just trashing Florida all the time,
it seems play three.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
We've been outspoken about the impact of misguided policies advanced
by Florida lawmakers. Republicans and Florida have attacked diversity, they've
attacked inclusion efforts, they've limited the teaching of black history,
and they've launched attacks on the LGBT, youth, immigrants, educators,
(06:06):
and women's reproductive freedom. That's what you have seen from
lawmakers in Florida. So I'll let NAACP, I'll let LULAC
speak to their specific specifics of their travel advisories. But
this administration is going to as we have for the
past two years, continue to speak out against discriminatory policies
(06:27):
push by state leaders across the country.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Clay, you know there's a tactic in propaganda, fire hose
of falsehood, they will call it, where you just spray
so many lies, so many misdirections that you figure you
can overwhelm people's ability to discern the truth from the
bs and what you're here, and there is fire hose
false of falsehood.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The amount of just all the phrases do what limiting
the teaching of black history?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What how? It's all Whyes, it's all lies. I mean
everything that she said in that answer is a lie. Everything,
And I think this is so important. It's one thing
to disagree on what the tax code should be, right,
(07:17):
we can agree or do Hey, I think that the
corporate tax rate should be twenty four percent, Well, I
think it should be fourteen percent. I think we should
have this tax on dividends. I think the capital gains
R eight needs. But like all those things, I would
acknowledge we can have a legitimate debate on right. You
and your neighbor might have a different opinion on how
capital gain should be treated. That's a rational conversation as
(07:39):
long as your neighbor's not arguing for like eighty percent
capital gains rates or some which some lunatics would fuck.
Everything that she said is an unmitigated lie, all of it,
and everything that the NAACP said, it's a lie. Right.
Black people are not in danger in Florida. Gay people
(08:00):
are not in danger in Florida. Buck, You know where
I went for Christmas break? Key West. I can guarantee
you if you have ever been to key West, Florida,
it might be the gay capital of America. People in
Key West. Ron DeSantis is the governor of Florida, all
the gay lesbian universe. Buck, Do you think in Key
(08:22):
West they're like, we better get on a boat and
go to Cuba. Right now, we're in danger of being
exterminated in Florida because of our gayness. Of course, not
where you live now in Miami. Monstrous gay population, one
of the biggest gay populations per capita in the entire country.
You're in Miami. Do you think gay people feel threatened
(08:45):
right now to walk around the streets. This is such
a lie. It's all lie. The book Bands isn't true,
the idea that anybody is in danger. In fact, crime
is way down in Florida. You're actually safer in Florida
now than most parts of America, certainly in big cities.
(09:07):
And if you're lying like this, why why are these
lies necessary? Because they're terrified. I think of DeSantis because
he won by twenty points in Florida scoreboard. This is
a scoreboard kind of election, right, and that's why they
have to lie to attack him.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, just for all of the frustration that a lot
of Republicans felt, and we were front of the line
in twenty twenty two with what the polls seem to
indicate and what the reality ended up being. The only
place we saw a dramatic overperformance, over performance relative to
favorable polls for a Republican was in Florida, where we
(09:48):
were talking about maybe a six or a seven point
win was a twenty point win. A twenty point win
in Florida, you know, and look at people can say
whatever they want about you know, who they like or
who they support everything else. That's all fine, but the
numbers don't lie. That was a massive victory that I think.
(10:09):
I think the Democrats recognize that there's a there's a
template here as well for how Republicans can do elections
and how they can dial it in in different states.
If you if you had Florida level elections in I
mean in the level I mean trustworthiness, you know, systems
in place, understanding the rules and leveraging them for the
(10:32):
GOP side, Pennsylvania, Georgia, these states start to look a
lot better for the GOP.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Couple of facts on that Florida situation, uh and Karine
Jean Pierre said, women are in danger. You know, Ron
de Santis one single women in Florida. I mean, I
just want all of you out there to think about that.
Because we heard so much about women moving against the
Republican Party, Ron de Santis won a majority of single
(11:00):
women in the state of Florida. Second part here, DeSantis
won Florida percentage wise by more than Gavin Newsom won
in California. That stat blows people's minds. Go look at
the returns. The Republican candidate for governor in California got
more support against Gavin Newsom than the Democrat candidate for
(11:25):
governor did against Ron DeSantis. We know California is a
far left state, yet in California, Gavin Newsom was not
able to win in that state by as much as
DeSantis won in Florida. If if what Karine, Jean Pierre
and everybody else is saying were true, the ultimate end
(11:46):
of the argument case to me, Buck is why have
millions of people moved to Florida since Ronda Santis became governor?
If you were actually in danger, would you move to Florida. No,
it's because that's a lie, and it's a really bad lie.
And that's what I hate to see Trump echoing what
Hillary Clinton and Karine Jean Pierre and Joe Biden are saying.
(12:07):
I think it's a really ineffective attack against DeSantis, and frankly,
it seems desperate to me.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I also think it's just to take this out of
the realm of because I think for some folks, they're
here and they hear a lot of Look, the governor
Flora is about to announce today, and so there's going
to be focus on this. And Florida has as a state,
especially in the covid Era and afterwards become a place
where I mean, look, think of most of the as
we all know, Rush lived, Rush lived in Florida for decades,
(12:35):
and now you have Floridi, you have more conservative media commentators,
radio hosts, et cetera in Florida and really any other state.
And there's been a real movement toward it. But what
I think is interesting for the Democrats is what's the
blue state that's getting all of the people that want
(12:56):
to go there?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Great question. There's a lot of blue states out there,
and that as geographic locations and cultural centers and historically
are amazing. What are the blue states?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What we see is, in fact, even in a place
like New York City, they're saying, please stop sending so
many migrants here. We can't handle all the migrants. Okay, well,
what's the Blue state that is so welcoming that's bringing
in so many people right now who want to move
internally from other places in the United States. They don't
have an exemplar, they don't have a Hey, this is
(13:30):
Blue state governance working so well. We can't even We
have to turn people away practically because we don't have
enough housing for them, because everyone wants to live here. No,
in the Blue States, it's we're running out of free
housing to give people because we can't afford more free
housing because the tax base is leaving.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
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Speaker 1 (15:14):
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for
Team Reality.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Some of
you may have heard us earlier in the show talking
about my position. I think Buck, you agree with it
that if I were a Republican candidate right now running
for president, whether I'm Ron DeSantis, who's announcing tonight, Tim Scott,
Nicky Haley, Vivic Ramaswami, all of them, I would come
out and say I will pardon Donald Trump from all
(15:44):
federal charges if I'm elected president. That's what I would say.
Some of you have reacted to this. VIP listener Frank
says if any Republican candidate stated they would pardon Trump,
it would play right into the Democrats' hands. There would
be adds saying they're puppets of Trump by guaranteeing his pardon. Also,
(16:04):
VIP listener Todd says, I wouldn't declare to pardon Trump
until after you get the nomination. That would be a
nice card to have to get Trump's endorsement should Trump lose,
trade a pardon for all of his support and his supporters.
I disagree with both. I don't know how you would respond.
These are valid points, I mean, smart takes. I think
you have to stand on principle, and the principle should
(16:26):
be we are not going to charge someone with a
crime because they are political opposition. We've never done it
before in the history of our republic, and it's just
flat out wrong. And I understand that you might get
attacked for it, but I think standing on principle actually
plays well with independent voters and the people who think
(16:48):
that Trump is Hitler. They're not going to vote for
you anyway. So I don't buy into the fact that
you would lose any support at all. I actually think
you would strengthen it by standing on principle.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yes, Because so I think that even among people who
are I think that there is this this little tranche
in the middle politically of people for whom Trump is
not their guy. But they recognize that this witch hunt
stuff is completely insane. Yes, they recognize this isn't about
(17:21):
relitigating twenty twenty in the election. This is about now
they're truly persecuting him. The left is persecuting Trump like
a bunch of maniacs, And I think people see that
for what it is. Even some people who are super
critical of Trump, for example, really all across the board,
a lot of them have come out to say, like
the Alvin Bragg thing in New.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Today Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines
of truth.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Welcome back to Clayannbuck. Our friend Caroline Levitt joins us now.
Caroline ran for congress up in New Hampshire all recalls.
She was also a college athlete and is now working
for the MAGA Inc. Spoke She's a MAGA Inc. Spokeswoman.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Caroline. Welcome. How's the MAGA Inc. Stuff going?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Hey, you guys, thank you so much for having me.
It's great to be back with you. Your audience was
so kind to me in my election, so I want
to say thank you to everyone listening for their support
of my congressional race. Unfortunately did not work out, but
MAGA Inc. Is going great. I'm proud to be the spokeswoman.
We are the super pack that is supporting President Trump's
re election campaign for twenty twenty four and it's looking good.
(19:42):
We're definitely dominating in the polls, but things are heating up.
Of course, we're expecting Governor DeSantis hopping in the race
any minute, making an announcement tonight. So looking forward to
a tough fight and then taking on a tougher fight
to Joe Biden and the Democrats and turning this dying
country around, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So speaking of tough fights, we can actually I want
to come back to and Clay's got some some thoughts
on the politics side of it as well as on
what we're going to get into here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
For a second.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Have you seen the latest with the with the women
in sports stuff and the transgender individuals in sports? I
mean some A girl just lost down the state championship
in California. She couldn't go because I think she was
fourth place. She should have been third place because a
transgender individual was running. What what is what is it
going to take you think for us to reach critical
(20:31):
mass where this is going to stop? And and also
is President Trump planning to stop this in a meaningful
way if he becomes president again?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, First of all, this is an issue that really
infuriates me, like literally makes my blood boil every time
I see it, hear it, talk about it, talk to
a fellow female athlete who have suffered from this, and
it really is absolutely insane and most rational, sane Americans,
I'm sure the majority that majority of your listeners don't
(21:01):
agree with this stuff, even Democrats to talk to them.
They say, I don't agree with men competing in women's force.
It's lunacy. It is it's dictated by the far left,
but we've seen it seep into every institution in this
country that is going woke and really virtue signaling to
these people. So one, we all need to do our
part to continue to speak up against both Corporate America.
(21:22):
We've seen that recently with the bud Light protests and
their sales continue to tank, but also in our own
personal lives and making sure our friends colleagues, even if
they're not political people understand this is happening in the
modern day. Democrat Party has made this part of their
party platform. Is it's not anti trans it is anti
(21:44):
women policies that the Biden administration and Democrats at the
state and local level and every state in this country
are trying to push and President Trump has pushed forth
in one of his Agenda forty seven policy proposals. He's
unveiled more than one hundred and forty new tangible policy
proposals for his administration over the next four years, and
(22:04):
one of them is in signing an executive order to
ensure that no taxpayer funded college or university receive federal
funds if they allow men to compete in women's sports,
if they allow men in women's locker rooms. And when
you threaten the dollar signs, as we've seen with bud Light,
things do tend to change. And so, as President Trump
(22:27):
said himself, money talks, and it's time to beat the
radical left at their own game.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Caroline, you're in my hometown in Nashville. How are you
liking it so far?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I gotta tell you, I am loving it so my
first time here in Nashville. I'm here for work, so
I haven't been able to have too much fun, but
I can certainly see why this is a very fun town.
I will be back for no work and a lot
more fun. But I am really enjoying Nashville. I've met
a lot of great people. It's hard to believe this
is a liberal city, Clay that votes for Democrats. I
(22:58):
was looking up some of this and past elections while
I've been here. I've met so many great conservatives while
i've been here. Maybe I'm used to liberal elitists to
New England cities like Boston, where I'm from up in
New England. But I'm having a great time.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, people out and about in Nashville by and large
do not live in Nashville, and it is I think,
a great draw for people of all walks of life,
and certainly the state of Tennessee is so welcome because
I know you've never been here before. We're talked about
Target as well. You mentioned bud Light. You're I think,
like twenty six years old something like that, super young,
like we said, nearly elected to Congress from New Hampshire.
(23:34):
I think you'll be there at some point in the future.
Just a prediction, But would you have ever believed that
there would be bathing suits being sold for women that
allow the penis to be tucked and hidden? Like I
see this stuff at Target, and I think to myself,
how in the world did we get here? You're young,
(23:57):
you're twenty six. I bet you're out, you know, shopping
all the time. You probably go to Target a lot,
because I know lots of women your age do. When
you see something like this. How crazy is it? Just
from a purely is this the real world we're living
in perspective?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah, it is. That's exactly what I thought. I saw
a couple of weeks ago. I was in Target and
I saw the UH for LGBTQ plus Pride Month, all
the alpha that soup. They're celebrating it, and you see
these things that are for children. Right, So that's where
a line needs to be. John, enough is enough, and
it is really disgusting and disturbing. But something that I
(24:34):
guess does it's fearful to me is I am definitely
the ideological minority amongst my generation. No doubt. Gen Z
is overwhelmingly leftist in liberal and they think this stuff
is okay. Like even some of my I consider them
friends or acquaintances. I've sent them some of this target
stuff or the bud Light stuff, and some people say, well,
who cares, right, Like, let's just let them do that.
(24:56):
But they don't see the bigger picture, which we as
political people, I think see, which is that this is
the deterioration of America from within. This is pitting people
up against one another based on race, now sexuality, now gender.
This is ignoring biological reality and truth. And this is
a national security concern right because our adversaries, China, Russia, Iran,
(25:19):
they are loving this. They are absolutely loving the fact
that we are stripping masculinity out of our society. And
weakening it from within. But most Americans, I don't know
if they see it, but my generation certainly doesn't see
it that way. That's why I take great pride in
speaking truth and conservative values. I do a lot of
work on my own personal social media to get this
message out, like there's a bigger picture here than just
(25:41):
target selling these deeply disturbing and in my view, disgusting clothes.
We need to be speaking that truth to this power.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Speaking of Caroline Lovitt, Caroline, you know, do you think
that the Dodgers may face We talked about them at
the top of the show. The Dodgers may face a
little bit of backlash year given the lgbt Q IA
plus Pride Festival. What's going to have the Sisters of
Perpetual Indulgence. We're all guys dressed as women, dressed as nuns.
(26:12):
Do you think that there's going to be someone who
are we going to rally or people say, oh, I
like my baseball too much?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Right? You know, it's different than bud light because are
people going to boycott their hometown team? Are people going
to boycott the MLB? There's no other options, right, There's
not a lot of competition When it comes to a
Major league sports, you have the MLB and that's about it, right,
unless you're going to go to your hometown Triple A game,
which I have not done that since I was a
little kid, so I'm probably not gonna do that Boston
(26:40):
Red Sox Fenway Park. It's hard to say no to
some of these things that are become so ingrained in
our culture and in our lives. But this is where
we as conservatives especially really do have to buckle down
and speak truth to that and boycott these organizations because
if we don't, they're just going to keep doing it.
And you know, as we've seen with bud Light, money
does talk and their sales are plummeting. Can we do
(27:01):
the same for the LA Dodgers Only if we really
buckle down and all band together as conservative we have
the power to do that. That's the beauty of the
free market. But I do think it's going to be
more difficult, Clay, because there's less competition in this industry
of sports than people love sports so much. I love
sports very much. I am rooting hard for our Boston
Celtics tomorrow night to make a comeback. And if the
(27:22):
Celtics did this, it would be tough not to tune
into them, right, like my hometown team and watch. But
again it goes back to that greater perspective. What is
really happening to America? These people want to divide us,
and we have to stand up and say no, you
can't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I just learned great the Celtics my Finals clad and
that's a great point, Buck, and I hadn't even thought
about it until Caroline came on. We said that Bud
Light Miller like cores like don't taste very different.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
If you're a Dodgers fan, it's a lot different than
being an Angels fan or being a fan of another team,
which makes this more challenging. I hadn't thought about that
point in particular. Caroline, have a good time in Nashville.
We appreciate you coming on and look forward to talking
in the future when you're in Congress.
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Thank you guys so much. Take care.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Closing up
the Wednesday edition of the program, VIP listener Michael says,
just to let you know, I can tell the difference
between the taste of the three beers. Obviously, you don't
know your beers. We were at an Army Navy football
game and my brother in law went out for the beers.
(29:48):
He knew my son and I wanted bud Light. When
he came back and gave us our beers in the
plastic cups, both my son and I told him it's
not bud Light. He admitted it was Miller Lite because
the bud Light line to purchase was two long. He
didn't think we'd know the difference. We know our beers. Look,
I'll just say this, first of all, I'm doubting you.
I'm just doubting you because you said that it wasn't
(30:11):
bud Light. But I think if you had a blind
taste test, you wouldn't be able to tell by and large,
and you might have suspected that your brother in law
was not going to get you the beer that you wanted.
In the back of your mind. I will say this,
we need to have a light beer taste off at
some point in the future. Buck, maybe in the summer.
(30:34):
We will allow some of you, who think you are
the most stalwart beer drinking snobs on the planet to
be able to try to tell the difference. I think
in our taste test, Buck, that bud Light, Miller Lite,
and Coors Light would not be able to tell the difference.
I know this after you've had like two or three beers,
you definitely can't tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So I could say this that people who are high
level wine drinkers. I mean that as in people that
you think of themselves as having a very sophisticated palette.
There are people who can taste of wine and they know,
you know, the year, the vintage of it. There are
people that say, the tiny percentage of people this is
(31:20):
what I was going to say, Yeah, even among the
people who think of themselves as very sophisticated palette wine drinkers,
it's a very very small percentage that actually could tell
a difference. So, look, is vip listener Michael that for beer?
You know, is he in that that gifted palette category?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It is possible, Is it probable? That is a different conversation? Buck,
How many wineries have you been to and they'll like
bring out the different carrofs. I think they call it
right yes of wine, and they'll be like, what you'll
notice about this one is there's a subtle hint of
flavorful berry and oaken hue. Because and then you know,
(32:04):
like in your head, you'll be like, oh, that sounds
really nice, that sounds really fantastic. And then what do
I do, my knucklehead? Almost immediately buck, I forget which
one that's supposed to be right, And once I've had
like three or four glasses of wine, I can barely
tell anything. I will say when we were in Italy,
we went to a winery and I loved everything that
(32:26):
I drank at that winery because they sell the experience.
Oh look at this beautiful vineyard out in front of you.
These are hand plucked grapes, and then we take them
and we do all this stuff. But after like two
or three drinks, it's really just the experience. I'm gonna
call out almost all of you. I don't think you
can tell the difference between wine beer, all of it.
(32:47):
I think it's all a sham. I went to a
cheese tasting once in New York City that was just cheese.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, you have like little you can have little crap,
but it's lots of different kinds of cheese.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yes, that's really weird. It was delicious, sir. I will
have you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That you could pick up the hints of elderberry and
and cinnamon in the I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Know, man, I just got to eat a lot of cheese.
Why ask did you go with a girl? Yeah? Of course, Okay,
you didn't go to taste the cheese. You went with
the girl. You as a sing I would be so
suspicious of you if you were like when you were single,
if you were like, like, what's you guys going on
this weekend and you were like, you know, I've got
this cheese tasting, It's like, who are you going with?
(33:34):
I just I just a big cheese guy. I'm just
gonna go solo. I'm treating myself. The world is going on.
I mean, I have to admit, like I'm one of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I have to I can't keep it in the house
because I do like the fattier and more indulgent the cheese.
The more I love cheese, and I'm trying not to
eat it because you know, dad, bod, I mean, I
will eat a wedge of bree like a slice of
pizza if left to my own devices, like, I'll just
take that whole triangle and just go for it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
So Fox Sports when we would watch college football games
or NFL games, they bring in catered meals. Food is amazing,
And they would bring in all these cheeses on a tray.
And that's one of those things. I will admit. It's
almost impossible to stop eating cheese, like on a tray
with different flavors. It's a little bit like stopping eating Dorito's,
(34:23):
Like it's almost impossible once you start eating in Dourdo's.
I had my experience to stop, but you know what,
I was very anti cheese after this. You know what
they sometimes I've only had migraines like once or twice
in my life after I just ate that huge cheese tray.
I'm not kidding about this. On my flight back from
(34:43):
LA to Nashville the next day, Buck, I got the
worst migraine. I thought I was gonna die. I went
and looked up all of the data like what brings
on migraines Cheese. They think if you eat a ton
of cheese. I don't know if it's true, but I
eat a ton of cheese. That day, I had the
worst migraine in my life. And I've sworn off a
lot of cheese ever since, because I don't want to
(35:03):
have that feeling again.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Especially you know, for our Milwaukee and Wisconsin audience, and
my god, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Say, I do not co sign Clay cheese, cheese and.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You know, throwing Clay throwing Cheddar under the bus for
his headache. Maybe you just need a little more water, Clay.
You know, there's a lot of reasons you can get
a headache. This is crazy, tok. Migraine. It wasn't just
a headache. It was I thought I was going to die.
I don't usually get the headaches. I've never had a
migraine before. I'm putting it all on the cheese plate.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I think I ate too much cheese that day because
they brought it in for free and it was delectable
and it was delicious.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
But I had to teach myself what you what is
the food you were most likely to overeat? If you're
going to overeat something, what's the thing you'll put too
much away of?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh? I don't the chips and salsa. I don't think
I've ever been like I've had too much chips in salta.
I think I could kill myself.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I told people that you never want to actually think
about guacamole and what you've had. Like people think of
guacamole as like a palate cleanser. Yeah, that tub of guac.
If you knock that thing back, you know, you might
as well eat a pizza, like the whole pizza. It's
not it's good fat, but it's a high calid. We're hungry,
as you can tell here on the show right now, So.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Just got chips and salsa. I would go in and
remember I was the one I brought this to the masses.
Pancakes don't actually have that many calories. You didn't believe it,
Like I could eat pancakes forever, and I somehow have
convinced myself that it's not that bad for you. So
that is that is on my horizon. I will die
of chips and salta and pancakes. Clay and I are
(36:37):
gonna go have a snack respectively. I'm gonna have some
cheese and easy to go, have some dry pancakes with
no syrup, like some kind of barbarian
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay and Bought kicks off right now, everybody,
and a lot going on just to recap a little
bit of what we've been discussing here. So tonight at
six o'clock Eastern time will be the announcement of Ron DeSantis'
presidential campaign on Twitter with Elon Muss and David Sachs.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Is going to be.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Moderating or just posting along with them. Who's a tech
guy and a Musk confidant, So we're all looking to
see how that goes. Trump is firing off Salvos at
Ron de sanct demonious. Look, I know people are gonna
subman might think I'm biased. Trump has had better nicknames
(00:53):
for people. This isn't a this isn't a meatball. Ron
was never going to work at all. We all knew
that one. But sanctimonious, I don't think it. I don't
think it really hits low energy. Jeb Little Marco, Crooked
Crooked Hill, Crooked Hillary may have won him the election.
I mean the nicknames, so we'll see. I mean, the
sanctimonious is kind of long tough to spell. An effective
(01:15):
nickname points out something that people might already have in
the back of their mind. I don't think of Ryn
DeSantis as really sanctimonious.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Does that matter? Like Hillary is crooked? And I don't
know about Jeb Bush's energy, but he definitely Like when
he brought the exclamation point after his name, it was like,
you're trying to wasn't you the guy?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Also, who's who is at the rally, Who's like, please clap?
He asked them to clap, and that was not That
was a moment you don't want to be. You want
to be telling people please clap for me. Uh So
that that was not good for him. So anyway, we're
looking at the DeSantis announcement coming up tonight. I do
also I want to talk about the White House's response
(01:58):
to some of what's going on here with Crene Jean
Pierre and you know, speaking on behalf of Biden. But
first up, Clay, have you seen this yet? The we've
talked about percentages. Have you seen what the total value
loss so far? Now this is in stock for Anheuser
(02:19):
Busch INBEVZ since the controversy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Do you know the number? I was gonna do it
I do know the number, but I bet our audience
does not know the number.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Fifteen point seven billion dollars in value lost. Fifteen point
seven billion. Now it's also crossed. Over the first week
of there's people were saying, oh the stock is you know,
stup three dollars, a stone three dollars. They were all mocking, no, no,
now this is there. They're hemorrhaging earnings based on what
happened here. So that's I think that's significant. I mean,
(02:48):
when you're talking about a fifteen billion dollar loss in
stock value.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It also Buck. Remember initial they were like, oh, everybody
will just drink some other product. Anheuser Busch has a
lot of products. I think a lot of people have
gotten smart and they're like, Okay, I won't drink Budweiser.
In other words, the bud Light negativity is now infecting
other ab brands because I think the people who cared
about this, that people would just like, oh, whatever, it's
(03:14):
not going to have an impact. It's having so much
of an impact. Buck, there's now a report that there
isn't enough Cores Light and Miller Light available potentially for
Memorial Day weekend in some markets. And I'm getting pictures
sent to me all the time. Walmart and a lot
of other mass retailers are basically giving away bud Light
right now because remember there's expiration dates on when this
(03:37):
product can be consumed, and so it's not only that
bud Light is tanking, it's that bud Light's competitors are
being lifted just by not having made a super woke
advertising decision.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's remarkable to see how short sighted it was. I
also think, what is the chance that anybody if cores
Light versus Miller Lite. I would want to know what
percentage of beer drinkers could tell the difference between those
two beers as well. I know we get we get
pillaried for this, both of us. We get pillaried.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
If people now are mad at you over this, I
will continue to hammer it home. If you have a
hot dog and you are sitting watching a ballgame, Uh,
there's no way you can tell the difference in a
plastic cup whether you're drinking bud Light, Miller Lite, or
course Light. That is why I think this boycott is
so effective, because if bud Light tasted so much different
than everybody else, I think it would be harder for
(04:34):
people to change their buying patterns. It doesn't. It's marketing.
It's with a lot of beers.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's why they spend so much money on the bikinis
and beaches and guys, you know, guys with beer guts
who were like, hey, we with all the bikini babes
you know in the eighties. Uh, that's it's all. It's
all in the marketing. So anyway, we're continuing to look
at that closely. But I wanted to let the White
House way in on a controversy here from early during
the week.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We told you that.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Senior figures within the NAACP said that there was a
or talked about the travel advisory they had put into
place for Florida. That Florida, the state of is an unsafe, unwelcoming,
dangerous place, a terrorist state, I think is what somebody
said about it this week on the left for minorities
(05:27):
and for members of the lgbt QIA plus community, well,
Creine Jean Pierre was asked about this.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Let's let everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Hear what this White House says about a state that
they know they're going to lose in twenty twenty four,
so they have no problem just trashing Florida all the time,
it seems play three.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
We've been outspoken about the impact of misguided policies advanced
by Florida lawmakers. Republicans and Florida have attacked diversity, they've
attacked inclusion efforts, they've limited the teaching of black history,
and they've launched attacks on the LGBT, youth, immigrants, educators,
(06:06):
and women's reproductive freedom. That's what you have seen from
lawmakers in Florida. So I'll let NAACP, I'll let LULAC
speak to their specific specifics of their travel advisories. But
this administration is going to as we have for the
past two years, continue to speak out against discriminatory policies
(06:27):
push by state leaders across the country.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Clay, you know there's a tactic in propaganda, fire hose
of falsehood, they will call it, where you just spray
so many lies, so many misdirections that you figure you
can overwhelm people's ability to discern the truth from the
bs and what you're here, and there is fire hose
false of falsehood.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
The amount of just all the phrases do what limiting
the teaching of black history?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What how? It's all Whyes, it's all lies. I mean
everything that she said in that answer is a lie. Everything,
And I think this is so important. It's one thing
to disagree on what the tax code should be, right,
(07:17):
we can agree or do Hey, I think that the
corporate tax rate should be twenty four percent, Well, I
think it should be fourteen percent. I think we should
have this tax on dividends. I think the capital gains
R eight needs. But like all those things, I would
acknowledge we can have a legitimate debate on right. You
and your neighbor might have a different opinion on how
capital gain should be treated. That's a rational conversation as
(07:39):
long as your neighbor's not arguing for like eighty percent
capital gains rates or some which some lunatics would fuck.
Everything that she said is an unmitigated lie, all of it,
and everything that the NAACP said, it's a lie. Right.
Black people are not in danger in Florida. Gay people
(08:00):
are not in danger in Florida. Buck, You know where
I went for Christmas break? Key West. I can guarantee
you if you have ever been to key West, Florida,
it might be the gay capital of America. People in
Key West. Ron DeSantis is the governor of Florida, all
the gay lesbian universe. Buck, Do you think in Key
(08:22):
West they're like, we better get on a boat and
go to Cuba. Right now, we're in danger of being
exterminated in Florida because of our gayness. Of course, not
where you live now in Miami. Monstrous gay population, one
of the biggest gay populations per capita in the entire country.
You're in Miami. Do you think gay people feel threatened
(08:45):
right now to walk around the streets. This is such
a lie. It's all lie. The book Bands isn't true,
the idea that anybody is in danger. In fact, crime
is way down in Florida. You're actually safer in Florida
now than most parts of America, certainly in big cities.
(09:07):
And if you're lying like this, why why are these
lies necessary? Because they're terrified. I think of DeSantis because
he won by twenty points in Florida scoreboard. This is
a scoreboard kind of election, right, and that's why they
have to lie to attack him.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, just for all of the frustration that a lot
of Republicans felt, and we were front of the line
in twenty twenty two with what the polls seem to
indicate and what the reality ended up being. The only
place we saw a dramatic overperformance, over performance relative to
favorable polls for a Republican was in Florida, where we
(09:48):
were talking about maybe a six or a seven point
win was a twenty point win. A twenty point win
in Florida, you know, and look at people can say
whatever they want about you know, who they like or
who they support everything else. That's all fine, but the
numbers don't lie. That was a massive victory that I think.
(10:09):
I think the Democrats recognize that there's a there's a
template here as well for how Republicans can do elections
and how they can dial it in in different states.
If you if you had Florida level elections in I
mean in the level I mean trustworthiness, you know, systems
in place, understanding the rules and leveraging them for the
(10:32):
GOP side, Pennsylvania, Georgia, these states start to look a
lot better for the GOP.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Couple of facts on that Florida situation, uh and Karine
Jean Pierre said, women are in danger. You know, Ron
de Santis one single women in Florida. I mean, I
just want all of you out there to think about that.
Because we heard so much about women moving against the
Republican Party, Ron de Santis won a majority of single
(11:00):
women in the state of Florida. Second part here, DeSantis
won Florida percentage wise by more than Gavin Newsom won
in California. That stat blows people's minds. Go look at
the returns. The Republican candidate for governor in California got
more support against Gavin Newsom than the Democrat candidate for
(11:25):
governor did against Ron DeSantis. We know California is a
far left state, yet in California, Gavin Newsom was not
able to win in that state by as much as
DeSantis won in Florida. If if what Karine, Jean Pierre
and everybody else is saying were true, the ultimate end
(11:46):
of the argument case to me, Buck is why have
millions of people moved to Florida since Ronda Santis became governor?
If you were actually in danger, would you move to Florida. No,
it's because that's a lie, and it's a really bad lie.
And that's what I hate to see Trump echoing what
Hillary Clinton and Karine Jean Pierre and Joe Biden are saying.
(12:07):
I think it's a really ineffective attack against DeSantis, and frankly,
it seems desperate to me.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I also think it's just to take this out of
the realm of because I think for some folks, they're
here and they hear a lot of Look, the governor
Flora is about to announce today, and so there's going
to be focus on this. And Florida has as a state,
especially in the covid Era and afterwards become a place
where I mean, look, think of most of the as
we all know, Rush lived, Rush lived in Florida for decades,
(12:35):
and now you have Floridi, you have more conservative media commentators,
radio hosts, et cetera in Florida and really any other state.
And there's been a real movement toward it. But what
I think is interesting for the Democrats is what's the
blue state that's getting all of the people that want
(12:56):
to go there?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Great question. There's a lot of blue states out there,
and that as geographic locations and cultural centers and historically
are amazing. What are the blue states?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What we see is, in fact, even in a place
like New York City, they're saying, please stop sending so
many migrants here. We can't handle all the migrants. Okay, well,
what's the Blue state that is so welcoming that's bringing
in so many people right now who want to move
internally from other places in the United States. They don't
have an exemplar, they don't have a Hey, this is
(13:30):
Blue state governance working so well. We can't even We
have to turn people away practically because we don't have
enough housing for them, because everyone wants to live here. No,
in the Blue States, it's we're running out of free
housing to give people because we can't afford more free
housing because the tax base is leaving.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's not a good look. It's not a good look.
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Speaker 3 (15:20):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Some of
you may have heard us earlier in the show talking
about my position. I think Buck, you agree with it
that if I were a Republican candidate right now running
for president, whether I'm Ron DeSantis, who's announcing tonight, Tim Scott,
Nicky Haley, Vivic Ramaswami, all of them, I would come
out and say I will pardon Donald Trump from all
(15:44):
federal charges if I'm elected president. That's what I would say.
Some of you have reacted to this. VIP listener Frank
says if any Republican candidate stated they would pardon Trump,
it would play right into the Democrats' hands. There would
be adds saying they're puppets of Trump by guaranteeing his pardon. Also,
(16:04):
VIP listener Todd says, I wouldn't declare to pardon Trump
until after you get the nomination. That would be a
nice card to have to get Trump's endorsement should Trump lose,
trade a pardon for all of his support and his supporters.
I disagree with both. I don't know how you would respond.
These are valid points, I mean, smart takes. I think
you have to stand on principle, and the principle should
(16:26):
be we are not going to charge someone with a
crime because they are political opposition. We've never done it
before in the history of our republic, and it's just
flat out wrong. And I understand that you might get
attacked for it, but I think standing on principle actually
plays well with independent voters and the people who think
(16:48):
that Trump is Hitler. They're not going to vote for
you anyway. So I don't buy into the fact that
you would lose any support at all. I actually think
you would strengthen it by standing on principle.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yes, Because so I think that even among people who
are I think that there is this this little tranche
in the middle politically of people for whom Trump is
not their guy. But they recognize that this witch hunt
stuff is completely insane. Yes, they recognize this isn't about
(17:21):
relitigating twenty twenty in the election. This is about now
they're truly persecuting him. The left is persecuting Trump like
a bunch of maniacs, And I think people see that
for what it is. Even some people who are super
critical of Trump, for example, really all across the board,
a lot of them have come out to say, like
the Alvin Bragg thing in New.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
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Today Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines
of truth.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Welcome back to Clayannbuck. Our friend Caroline Levitt joins us now.
Caroline ran for congress up in New Hampshire all recalls.
She was also a college athlete and is now working
for the MAGA Inc. Spoke She's a MAGA Inc. Spokeswoman.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Caroline. Welcome. How's the MAGA Inc. Stuff going?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Hey, you guys, thank you so much for having me.
It's great to be back with you. Your audience was
so kind to me in my election, so I want
to say thank you to everyone listening for their support
of my congressional race. Unfortunately did not work out, but
MAGA Inc. Is going great. I'm proud to be the spokeswoman.
We are the super pack that is supporting President Trump's
re election campaign for twenty twenty four and it's looking good.
(19:42):
We're definitely dominating in the polls, but things are heating up.
Of course, we're expecting Governor DeSantis hopping in the race
any minute, making an announcement tonight. So looking forward to
a tough fight and then taking on a tougher fight
to Joe Biden and the Democrats and turning this dying
country around, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So speaking of tough fights, we can actually I want
to come back to and Clay's got some some thoughts
on the politics side of it as well as on
what we're going to get into here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
For a second.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Have you seen the latest with the with the women
in sports stuff and the transgender individuals in sports? I
mean some A girl just lost down the state championship
in California. She couldn't go because I think she was
fourth place. She should have been third place because a
transgender individual was running. What what is what is it
going to take you think for us to reach critical
(20:31):
mass where this is going to stop? And and also
is President Trump planning to stop this in a meaningful
way if he becomes president again?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, First of all, this is an issue that really
infuriates me, like literally makes my blood boil every time
I see it, hear it, talk about it, talk to
a fellow female athlete who have suffered from this, and
it really is absolutely insane and most rational, sane Americans,
I'm sure the majority that majority of your listeners don't
(21:01):
agree with this stuff, even Democrats to talk to them.
They say, I don't agree with men competing in women's force.
It's lunacy. It is it's dictated by the far left,
but we've seen it seep into every institution in this
country that is going woke and really virtue signaling to
these people. So one, we all need to do our
part to continue to speak up against both Corporate America.
(21:22):
We've seen that recently with the bud Light protests and
their sales continue to tank, but also in our own
personal lives and making sure our friends colleagues, even if
they're not political people understand this is happening in the
modern day. Democrat Party has made this part of their
party platform. Is it's not anti trans it is anti
(21:44):
women policies that the Biden administration and Democrats at the
state and local level and every state in this country
are trying to push and President Trump has pushed forth
in one of his Agenda forty seven policy proposals. He's
unveiled more than one hundred and forty new tangible policy
proposals for his administration over the next four years, and
(22:04):
one of them is in signing an executive order to
ensure that no taxpayer funded college or university receive federal
funds if they allow men to compete in women's sports,
if they allow men in women's locker rooms. And when
you threaten the dollar signs, as we've seen with bud Light,
things do tend to change. And so, as President Trump
(22:27):
said himself, money talks, and it's time to beat the
radical left at their own game.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Caroline, you're in my hometown in Nashville. How are you
liking it so far?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I gotta tell you, I am loving it so my
first time here in Nashville. I'm here for work, so
I haven't been able to have too much fun, but
I can certainly see why this is a very fun town.
I will be back for no work and a lot
more fun. But I am really enjoying Nashville. I've met
a lot of great people. It's hard to believe this
is a liberal city, Clay that votes for Democrats. I
(22:58):
was looking up some of this and past elections while
I've been here. I've met so many great conservatives while
i've been here. Maybe I'm used to liberal elitists to
New England cities like Boston, where I'm from up in
New England. But I'm having a great time.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, people out and about in Nashville by and large
do not live in Nashville, and it is I think,
a great draw for people of all walks of life,
and certainly the state of Tennessee is so welcome because
I know you've never been here before. We're talked about
Target as well. You mentioned bud Light. You're I think,
like twenty six years old something like that, super young,
like we said, nearly elected to Congress from New Hampshire.
(23:34):
I think you'll be there at some point in the future.
Just a prediction, But would you have ever believed that
there would be bathing suits being sold for women that
allow the penis to be tucked and hidden? Like I
see this stuff at Target, and I think to myself,
how in the world did we get here? You're young,
(23:57):
you're twenty six. I bet you're out, you know, shopping
all the time. You probably go to Target a lot,
because I know lots of women your age do. When
you see something like this. How crazy is it? Just
from a purely is this the real world we're living
in perspective?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah, it is. That's exactly what I thought. I saw
a couple of weeks ago. I was in Target and
I saw the UH for LGBTQ plus Pride Month, all
the alpha that soup. They're celebrating it, and you see
these things that are for children. Right, So that's where
a line needs to be. John, enough is enough, and
it is really disgusting and disturbing. But something that I
(24:34):
guess does it's fearful to me is I am definitely
the ideological minority amongst my generation. No doubt. Gen Z
is overwhelmingly leftist in liberal and they think this stuff
is okay. Like even some of my I consider them
friends or acquaintances. I've sent them some of this target
stuff or the bud Light stuff, and some people say, well,
who cares, right, Like, let's just let them do that.
(24:56):
But they don't see the bigger picture, which we as
political people, I think see, which is that this is
the deterioration of America from within. This is pitting people
up against one another based on race, now sexuality, now gender.
This is ignoring biological reality and truth. And this is
a national security concern right because our adversaries, China, Russia, Iran,
(25:19):
they are loving this. They are absolutely loving the fact
that we are stripping masculinity out of our society. And
weakening it from within. But most Americans, I don't know
if they see it, but my generation certainly doesn't see
it that way. That's why I take great pride in
speaking truth and conservative values. I do a lot of
work on my own personal social media to get this
message out, like there's a bigger picture here than just
(25:41):
target selling these deeply disturbing and in my view, disgusting clothes.
We need to be speaking that truth to this power.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Speaking of Caroline Lovitt, Caroline, you know, do you think
that the Dodgers may face We talked about them at
the top of the show. The Dodgers may face a
little bit of backlash year given the lgbt Q IA
plus Pride Festival. What's going to have the Sisters of
Perpetual Indulgence. We're all guys dressed as women, dressed as nuns.
(26:12):
Do you think that there's going to be someone who
are we going to rally or people say, oh, I
like my baseball too much?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Right? You know, it's different than bud light because are
people going to boycott their hometown team? Are people going
to boycott the MLB? There's no other options, right, There's
not a lot of competition When it comes to a
Major league sports, you have the MLB and that's about it, right,
unless you're going to go to your hometown Triple A game,
which I have not done that since I was a
little kid, so I'm probably not gonna do that Boston
(26:40):
Red Sox Fenway Park. It's hard to say no to
some of these things that are become so ingrained in
our culture and in our lives. But this is where
we as conservatives especially really do have to buckle down
and speak truth to that and boycott these organizations because
if we don't, they're just going to keep doing it.
And you know, as we've seen with bud Light, money
does talk and their sales are plummeting. Can we do
(27:01):
the same for the LA Dodgers Only if we really
buckle down and all band together as conservative we have
the power to do that. That's the beauty of the
free market. But I do think it's going to be
more difficult, Clay, because there's less competition in this industry
of sports than people love sports so much. I love
sports very much. I am rooting hard for our Boston
Celtics tomorrow night to make a comeback. And if the
(27:22):
Celtics did this, it would be tough not to tune
into them, right, like my hometown team and watch. But
again it goes back to that greater perspective. What is
really happening to America? These people want to divide us,
and we have to stand up and say no, you
can't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I just learned great the Celtics my Finals clad and
that's a great point, Buck, and I hadn't even thought
about it until Caroline came on. We said that Bud
Light Miller like cores like don't taste very different.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
If you're a Dodgers fan, it's a lot different than
being an Angels fan or being a fan of another team,
which makes this more challenging. I hadn't thought about that
point in particular. Caroline, have a good time in Nashville.
We appreciate you coming on and look forward to talking
in the future when you're in Congress.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Thank you guys so much. Take care.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Closing up
the Wednesday edition of the program, VIP listener Michael says,
just to let you know, I can tell the difference
between the taste of the three beers. Obviously, you don't
know your beers. We were at an Army Navy football
game and my brother in law went out for the beers.
(29:48):
He knew my son and I wanted bud Light. When
he came back and gave us our beers in the
plastic cups, both my son and I told him it's
not bud Light. He admitted it was Miller Lite because
the bud Light line to purchase was two long. He
didn't think we'd know the difference. We know our beers. Look,
I'll just say this, first of all, I'm doubting you.
I'm just doubting you because you said that it wasn't
(30:11):
bud Light. But I think if you had a blind
taste test, you wouldn't be able to tell by and large,
and you might have suspected that your brother in law
was not going to get you the beer that you wanted.
In the back of your mind. I will say this,
we need to have a light beer taste off at
some point in the future. Buck, maybe in the summer.
(30:34):
We will allow some of you, who think you are
the most stalwart beer drinking snobs on the planet to
be able to try to tell the difference. I think
in our taste test, Buck, that bud Light, Miller Lite,
and Coors Light would not be able to tell the difference.
I know this after you've had like two or three beers,
you definitely can't tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So I could say this that people who are high
level wine drinkers. I mean that as in people that
you think of themselves as having a very sophisticated palette.
There are people who can taste of wine and they know,
you know, the year, the vintage of it. There are
people that say, the tiny percentage of people this is
(31:20):
what I was going to say, Yeah, even among the
people who think of themselves as very sophisticated palette wine drinkers,
it's a very very small percentage that actually could tell
a difference. So, look, is vip listener Michael that for beer?
You know, is he in that that gifted palette category?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It is possible, Is it probable? That is a different conversation? Buck,
How many wineries have you been to and they'll like
bring out the different carrofs. I think they call it
right yes of wine, and they'll be like, what you'll
notice about this one is there's a subtle hint of
flavorful berry and oaken hue. Because and then you know,
(32:04):
like in your head, you'll be like, oh, that sounds
really nice, that sounds really fantastic. And then what do
I do, my knucklehead? Almost immediately buck, I forget which
one that's supposed to be right, And once I've had
like three or four glasses of wine, I can barely
tell anything. I will say when we were in Italy,
we went to a winery and I loved everything that
(32:26):
I drank at that winery because they sell the experience.
Oh look at this beautiful vineyard out in front of you.
These are hand plucked grapes, and then we take them
and we do all this stuff. But after like two
or three drinks, it's really just the experience. I'm gonna
call out almost all of you. I don't think you
can tell the difference between wine beer, all of it.
(32:47):
I think it's all a sham. I went to a
cheese tasting once in New York City that was just cheese.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, you have like little you can have little crap,
but it's lots of different kinds of cheese.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yes, that's really weird. It was delicious, sir. I will
have you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That you could pick up the hints of elderberry and
and cinnamon in the I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Know, man, I just got to eat a lot of cheese.
Why ask did you go with a girl? Yeah? Of course, Okay,
you didn't go to taste the cheese. You went with
the girl. You as a sing I would be so
suspicious of you if you were like when you were single,
if you were like, like, what's you guys going on
this weekend and you were like, you know, I've got
this cheese tasting, It's like, who are you going with?
(33:34):
I just I just a big cheese guy. I'm just
gonna go solo. I'm treating myself. The world is going on.
I mean, I have to admit, like I'm one of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I have to I can't keep it in the house
because I do like the fattier and more indulgent the cheese.
The more I love cheese, and I'm trying not to
eat it because you know, dad, bod, I mean, I
will eat a wedge of bree like a slice of
pizza if left to my own devices, like, I'll just
take that whole triangle and just go for it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
So Fox Sports when we would watch college football games
or NFL games, they bring in catered meals. Food is amazing,
And they would bring in all these cheeses on a tray.
And that's one of those things. I will admit. It's
almost impossible to stop eating cheese, like on a tray
with different flavors. It's a little bit like stopping eating Dorito's,
(34:23):
Like it's almost impossible once you start eating in Dourdo's.
I had my experience to stop, but you know what,
I was very anti cheese after this. You know what
they sometimes I've only had migraines like once or twice
in my life after I just ate that huge cheese tray.
I'm not kidding about this. On my flight back from
(34:43):
LA to Nashville the next day, Buck, I got the
worst migraine. I thought I was gonna die. I went
and looked up all of the data like what brings
on migraines Cheese. They think if you eat a ton
of cheese. I don't know if it's true, but I
eat a ton of cheese. That day, I had the
worst migraine in my life. And I've sworn off a
lot of cheese ever since, because I don't want to
(35:03):
have that feeling again.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Especially you know, for our Milwaukee and Wisconsin audience, and
my god, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Say, I do not co sign Clay cheese, cheese and.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You know, throwing Clay throwing Cheddar under the bus for
his headache. Maybe you just need a little more water, Clay.
You know, there's a lot of reasons you can get
a headache. This is crazy, tok. Migraine. It wasn't just
a headache. It was I thought I was going to die.
I don't usually get the headaches. I've never had a
migraine before. I'm putting it all on the cheese plate.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I think I ate too much cheese that day because
they brought it in for free and it was delectable
and it was delicious.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
But I had to teach myself what you what is
the food you were most likely to overeat? If you're
going to overeat something, what's the thing you'll put too
much away of?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh? I don't the chips and salsa. I don't think
I've ever been like I've had too much chips in salta.
I think I could kill myself.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I told people that you never want to actually think
about guacamole and what you've had. Like people think of
guacamole as like a palate cleanser. Yeah, that tub of guac.
If you knock that thing back, you know, you might
as well eat a pizza, like the whole pizza. It's
not it's good fat, but it's a high calid. We're hungry,
as you can tell here on the show right now, So.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Just got chips and salsa. I would go in and
remember I was the one I brought this to the masses.
Pancakes don't actually have that many calories. You didn't believe it,
Like I could eat pancakes forever, and I somehow have
convinced myself that it's not that bad for you. So
that is that is on my horizon. I will die
of chips and salta and pancakes. Clay and I are
(36:37):
gonna go have a snack respectively. I'm gonna have some
cheese and easy to go, have some dry pancakes with
no syrup, like some kind of barbarian
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