August 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerhouse discussion on law enforcement, immigration, free speech, and global security. The hour kicks off with Senator Eric Schmitt of Missouri, author of The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court, sharing insights on fighting crime and restoring law and order. Schmitt details his successful Safer Streets Initiative, the failures of progressive prosecutors, and why the Trump administration’s renewed focus on U.S. Attorneys is critical for tackling violent crime in cities like St. Louis and Washington, D.C.
The conversation dives into Trump Derangement Syndrome, exposing why Democrats reflexively oppose popular policies such as protecting women’s sports, reducing violent crime, and securing the border. Schmitt also unpacks the weaponization of the DOJ, the unprecedented legal attacks on President Trump, and the censorship-industrial complex that targeted free speech during the pandemic. He calls for Section 230 reform, accountability for social media giants, and legal consequences for bureaucrats who suppress First Amendment rights.
Later in the hour, Buck analyzes Trump’s recent meeting with European leaders and President Zelensky, clarifying U.S. policy on Ukraine. The White House confirms no American boots on the ground, while Trump pushes Europe to take greater responsibility for its own security—strengthening NATO and ending the war through diplomacy.
The discussion then shifts to illegal immigration and sanctuary city policies, featuring Attorney General Pam Bondi’s hardline stance against cities defying federal law. Buck highlights the real-life consequences of lax enforcement, including tragic crimes committed by individuals shielded by sanctuary policies. He argues that restoring law and order is an existential issue for America’s future.
Hour 3 wraps with a passionate defense of law enforcement, a critique of progressive policies undermining public safety, and a call to action for conservatives to stay engaged.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of playing Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we're joined by Senator Eric Schmidt of the great
State of Missouri. He's also got a new book out,
The Last Line of Defense Had to Beat the Left
in Court.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It is out today.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Senator Schmidt, thanks for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Up with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's talk a little bit if we can, about law enforcement,
because you were the attorney general in your state of Missouri. Now,
Saint Louis has had a crime problem for quite some time,
and I'm sure that was a focus of some of
your efforts at the state level. If you had the writ,
the support, the backing of the federal government, whatever could
(00:41):
be brought to bear Trump administration saying let's clean up
crime in Saint Louis and we'll give you whatever resources
you need at the federal level to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Could you do it? What would change? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think one thing is you'd get some of the
centeral law enforcement officials out of Washington, d C. And
get them out into the country. I think as Hotels
talked about this, and I think senior leadership and Department
of Justice just talked about this. So there's just too
many honestly, of those folks are in d C. And
they're not helping, you know, take out the bad guys
across the country. Sadly, they were spending a lot of
(01:14):
their time and we talk about it in the book
Last Line of Defense, in the censorship effort, Russia Gate,
all this nonsense, all the man hour has been wrapped
up in this political you know, weaponization of the DOJ
as opposed to fighting crime. The other thing is one
of the things that we did when I was an
Attorney generals relatively what was unprecedent at the time. We
created something called the Safer Streets Initihip where we had
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Deputy Attorney generals in our office deputized as assistant US attorneys.
So we added the capacity of prosecuting federal crime. When
you have let's just say you have a prosecutor in
Saint Louis and she's gone, but Kim Gardner was a
sorosback prosecutor. If they don't want to do their job,
then we worked with the US attorneys to go take
on carjackings and things like that. So it's a really
(01:56):
a successful program. When Biden came in, ironically, he scrapped
the program because he just you know that this just
was not their focus. So I'm glad President Trump's in there.
I'm glad you know he's getting his US attorneys. That's
going to be kind of next up when we get
back to get these US attorneys in place across the country,
and I think that'll help.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Are you stunned that Democrats seem unable to break the
reflexive opposition to anything Trump says, even when he says
things that are super super popular with most normal people
in the country. Keep men out of women's sports, let's
have less violent crime in Washington, d C. Hey, I'm
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trying to do whatever I can to stop people from
getting killed in Ukraine in the war there. All of
these things don't seem particularly political to me. Yet Democrats
have so brought into Trump is hitler, Trump is going
to start World War three, whatever negative you want to
associate it with it that they seem unable to acknowledge
(02:55):
that he actually has a lot of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, I think it's less political clay, and it's more psychological.
At this point, it truly is. It truly is a
psychosis and Trump arrangement syndrome is real, and it manifests
itself in just some crazy ways. If you gave a
couple of examples, they're already actually taking criminals off the
streets in Washington, DC. Krjackings have been up five hundred
plus percent in five years. Clearly something needs to be done,
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but they don't want them to do it. You've got
it president who's has the confidence and the strength to
actually try to broker a deal in the bloodiest war
in Europe since World War Two, And they just tried
to undercut them at every turn. And I think the
classic example, which is why I don't think they've hit
rock bottom yet, is this issue of illegal immigration. I mean,
they cannot help themselves. Chris van Holland goes to El
(03:44):
Salvador and has margaritas with an MS thirteen member because
they hate Trump so much. It's bizarre. But I think
they've got a couple more election cycles in them where
they're going to continue to lose before they wake up.
And this is just no longer the party of Perry
Truman or even Clinton. This has been captured by the
radical left.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Now, you were part of some of the battles, legal
battles that the well the forces of constitutionalism and the
rule of law but also Republicans and Trump supporters were
involved in recent years. I know that's something you deal
with in the book.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How should we view.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The fact that they brought four criminal cases against a president.
They held those prosecutions specifically so they would occur in
an election year. I mean, on the one hand, Senator,
it's well, Trump is president and all's well, that ends well.
But in the other hand, that is a shocking precedent,
breach betrayal, I would say, of the American people's trust,
(04:44):
and they actually did it. I feel like we're still
processing that that happened, because it happened so recently.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, And one of the reasons why I wrote Last
Line of Defense, which you can get on Amazon right now,
is there is a tendency, guys, I think too now
that that we're the fever dream the fever broke. I
think in November twenty twenty four of this kind of crazy,
woke nonsense and the lawfair that was brought against President
Trump to throw him in jail for the rest of
his life. There's a tendency to kind of gloss all
(05:11):
that over. But you got to remember the dark days,
and I was on your show talking about this was
why I think your audience really liked the book. This
was a time of lockdowns, some pulsory COVID shots, open borders,
DEI struggle, sessions, ESD requirements, and a censorship enterprise so
vast that the Biden administration instituted that was the biggest
(05:31):
affront of the First Amendment in American history. This is
all just like in a four year period of time
where they opened up the floodgates on all this and
we had to push back. And so while President Trump
was out of power, we were able to kind of
hold the line on a lot of this for the
cavalry to rise. In November of last year, it did arrive,
and President Trump finished this you know, epic historic comeback.
And we're talking about all the good things that Clay
(05:53):
you just mentioned they're happening that Democrats are still opposed to.
But there's a lot of important lessons learned. I mean,
whether it was you know, we took that vacing mandate case,
always Frome court, we won. We took the Missouri took
the student on deth forgiveness case always from court we won.
I sued fifty plus school districts in Missouri for their
forced mass mandates. We won. We had the censorship case,
and what that shows and what the story is so important.
(06:15):
It's kind of behind the scenes. Look at what was
it like to take the deppel of Anthony Fauci, What
was it like to take the deposition of Elvis Chan
at the FBI who was pre bunking the Hunter Biden
laptop story. We did all that. The point is you
got to have courage. It's a lot easier to just
go to ribbon cuttings or just kind of walk along
than it is. We've got to stand up and fight.
And President Trump, I think, has transformed the Republican Party now,
(06:36):
certainly from the one that I grew up in, into
much more not just a working class party, but a
party that's just not going to lie down. We're going
to stand up, We're going to fight back, and if
we do it, we can actually win. So the book
is kind of a playbook on how we did it
then and how we can do it moving forward.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Okay, I love everything that's happening now. I think most
people out there listening do as well. Here's my concern,
and you know this better than anybody, because you were
involved in so many of these lawsuits. All of a sudden,
it's acceptable to say, hey, we believe in the marketplace
of ideas. Hey, we shouldn't be rigging the algorithms. Hey
we shouldn't be artificially inserting ourselves into the public discourse
(07:15):
and manipulating the results. Yet twenty twenty one, every social
media company in America ban Donald Trump from getting on
I like the joke because it kind of brings it home.
Pinterest banned Donald Trump pest like he couldn't share his
scrap book collages for people out there. How do we
(07:38):
stop this from happening when Trump isn't in office and
may ensure that what we are doing now is going
to extend into the future no matter who the president
happens to be.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, a couple things. One is I think there has
to be accountability for some of these actions. I think
the most I've an ot at about this, I think
you can draw a straight line, like, ironically Obamas has
immunity because of the case that that was brought against
President Trump presidential media, but Clapper doesn't, Brennan doesn't, Coomy doesn't,
(08:11):
And if you can prove beyond this, you have a
statue limitation issues. But you don't if there's a conspiracy,
and it was an ongoing conspiracy, because if you like
the fuse in a conspiracy, whatever happens a mile down
the road, you're still responsible for. And these guys knew
it was fake, they knew it was BS. They laundered
that stupid stile dossier into an actual intelligence report, and
(08:32):
they tried to not only a coup, but tried to
sideline an entire first term of a president. And then
of course that was the impetus for all of the Oh,
this is Russian disinformation, This is Russian misinformation. Everything was
about Russian, this, Russian that, even though it was all BS.
And so I don't think we should just forget about that.
I think there have to be repercussions. And as far
as like social media companies, you guys know this, it's
(08:54):
a good thing that they have something called Section two
thirty protections, meaning they're a platform, not a play publisher,
meaning they're not legally responsible if somebody has, you know,
an opinion that you disagree with on that platform. That's
good for free speech, but you don't get to have
it both ways. You don't get the multi billion dollar
subsidy of being a platform where you can't be sued,
but then also try to manipulate what's on your platform
(09:16):
in an editorial like decision. So I think they got
a pick, and if they picked the wrong one, then
you're a publisher. You don't have the protections. I also
think a reform that will be important that I talk
about in the both two is these individual bureaucrats. If
you're engaged in suppressing somebody's First Amendment rights, you individually
ought to be able to be sued. There ought to
be an individual right of an action for an American
citizen to sue you for suppressing your speech about, you know,
(09:39):
questioning masks and how they work for kids or not.
That would change the kind of risk dynamic that currently works. Because,
as you guys know, the beercrafts aren't accountable to anybody.
We need to start making them accountable to real people.
So there's a few things that we can do. But
you know what we saw guys in that four year
period in particular, if that was going on somewhere else,
like you know, the law and the censorship and all
(10:01):
this mass migration, all this stuff that is being used
with tax thir dollars to fund. You know, we would
be the State Department would be warning American citizens about
that place. But that was happening here. And again, the
story of the Last Line of Defense that you can
get on Amazon now is about standing up, pushing back.
If you do it, if you've got the courage, that
you can win. And this is a playbook of how
(10:22):
conservatives moving forward can can fight and win in the courts,
which we've always kind of resisted because we thought that
was their terrain.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Okay, procedurally, you're an expert on this. Democrats have a
huge advantage in DC because they have basically a ninety
five percent approval rating in DC, they can get any
indictment they want. How do you deal with that if
you're talking about bringing conspiracy charges? I don't need like
(10:48):
a you know, law review analysis style, but just for
me and people out there who have a general sense
that this is a problem, how do you rectify that?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, once you have a conspiracy moving forward, it doesn't
just exist exclusively in Washington, DC, it emanates out. So
for example, which and I'm just using this potentially as
an example, but let's just say that the raid at
mar A Lago was really about getting documents back that
they thought President Trump had as related to the Steele dossier.
(11:18):
I'm just throwing out a scenario, yeahpathetically. Of course, if
that were the case, You've got Southern Florida's where you
can issue indictments. Because again, remember if Jack Smith is
using a phony intelligence report that was generated by Brennan
and Kobe and Clapper, like they begin in the conspiracy
process and he's furthering the conspiracy in South Florida. Again,
(11:40):
the jurisdiction you can kind of work in gets much broader,
and I think that's one area that they might they
might look at.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Senator.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Appreciate you being with us, and just want to tell
everybody one last time. Go check out the book which
is out today, the Senator's new book, Very important, very
good stuff, The Last Line Defense, How to beat the
Left in court. Appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
All right, guys, stick care, Thank you.
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By the voice.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And we had the big question yesterday after the meeting
with a whole host of European leaders. Ask yourself, honestly,
how many of us could name all the European leaders
who were there by photo, you know, go through them all.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I could get most of them, almost all of them,
maybe all of them.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But it's interesting to me how these leaders in these
big European countries come and go and it's like no
one even you know here Starmer, like, did anyone did
anyone ever hear of this guy before became Premtice? Anyway,
I know they got their own problems. We got our
own problems, so we try to focus too much on it.
But the meetia yesterday with Trump and Zelenski and the
(14:00):
big question that a lot of us had, and some
of you wrote in and were very now, Trump didn't
say one way or the other, and we weren't saying that.
Trump said one way or the other about US basing
or US troops on call to respond to a Russian invasion,
post piece post settlement, right, another version of another time
(14:23):
of Russian aggression. Trump didn't say yes, he didn't say no.
But when you're talking security guarantees, that's obviously something that
people are going to be thinking about. This is clearly
a part of it. If I were Zelenski and I
was told anything short of America will militarily back up
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the settlement, I don't know that I would trust the
Europeans to come in there and get it done right.
I'm just thinking about it from the Ukrainian perspective now.
He also, as Trump says, doesn't have the cards. So
beggars can't be choosers, as the phrase goes, and they
need this war to end as soon as they can
get it to end. The Ukrainians do. But here is
(15:06):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, who is putting it
forward just because I thought Trump said this, but because
he's Trump. It was the way he said it maybe
left a little bit of space. He said, I assure you,
and then pivoted to something else. He didn't finish that sentence.
Here is White House Press Secretary Levit, play thirty seven.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
The President has definitively stated US boots will not be
on the ground in Ukraine, but we can certainly help
in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security
guarantees to our European allies. The President understands security guarantees
are crucially important to ensure a lasting piece, and he
has directed his National security team to coordinate with our
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friends in Europe and also to continue to cooperate and
discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Now that's as clear as it can be, right, So,
I think the White House has settled that issue that
was a concern yesterday, and it's something that I think
we're right to be very focused in on. But knowing
Trump and knowing the way that he understands US interests
and also sees the mistakes that have been made by
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previous administrations, He's not about to stumble us into some
military position in Ukraine where we've got, you know, eighty
second airborne taking fire from Russian spetsnas or something like.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I just we don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't think that's going to happen, and the White
House have made very clear that it won't. It is
interesting though, now, as she mentioned their coordination and other
means of security guarantees, it's gonna have to be europe.
It's gonna have to be European allies, because it matters
a whole lot more to them. Right, Whether you believe
that Putin next stop on the Putin train is going
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to be the Baltics or Poland or some peace really
thereof is much more likely. It would be a version
of what we saw originally in eastern Ukraine, where it's oh,
Russian speaking separatists, Moscow is stepping into mediate but it's
not an invasion. But this is the Russian masked way
of covert warfare.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They try to play the propaganda angles, the political angles,
as well as the military. If you're European countries, especially
in the neighborhood, you know, not so much like Spain
and Portugal, right, but if you're right in the neighborhood
of Ukraine, you recognize that your security is far more
implicated by what happens there than America's, and it's time
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for Europe to step up. We have entered a new
era where European countries, thanks to Donald Trump, I might add,
who has pushed for them to increase their military spending,
but also just increase their sense of accountability.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
For their own security.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Remember people saying, oh, Trump is undermining NATO, it's the
opposite of what happened. NATO is stronger now because Trump
held NATO allies to account.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right, Look, Trump is a lot, Ruby is doing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
They're focusing on ending of the war in Ukraine and
doing everything possible to make this economy roar. And that's fantastic.
And I'm very bullish about Trump's economy. But I'm talking
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We've got more cuts coming to you more soundbites to
dive into together here about crime in d C momentarily
and also Trump on the Russia Ukraine War.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But sentially we don't really have When we don't really
have names for wars, it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Feels like the same way that we did, almost like
you know, we don't have names for diseases the same way,
or at least there's been to move away from it now,
that's what it's COVID nineteen, COVID twenty, COVID twenty one.
Also with wars, is there a proper Ukraine's been in
more than one war, so is Russia. So is there
a proper name for this other than just the Russia
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Ukraine War. We used to name these things, right, We
used to talk about the Crimean War, for example.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Everybody knows what that refers to. It's a specific time
in history. You refer to the what the Franco Prussian War,
you refer to.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
The Soviet War, Right, There's a whole bunch of them.
And yet with this one doesn't really feel like there's
a proper term for it. Okay, I guess we do
the military military operations, so Operation Enduring Freedom, operation I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You know all those ones.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
All right, back to the task at hands here, our
Attorney General, Pam Bondi is doing a lot. There's a
lot going on with the dj and their mandate is
to clean up a whole bunch of things, the DOJ itself,
illegal immigration which has just swarmed over the country millions
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tens of millions of people, and then of course just
outright criminality on our streets, and sanctuary policies in these cities.
The whole thing is such an affront when you take
a step back and think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
For a moment.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
These are law enforcement officials in essence. I mean the
mayor of Boston, for example. We'll get to this in
a second, oversees the police commissioner, who oversees all the police.
So it's in the chain of command. You're effectively a
law enforcement officer of one kind or another, and you're
certainly an executive branch official with oversight over the law
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enforcement officials.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And for them to say.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We want to in every way possible obstruct existing federal law.
Notice how they'll never advocate to strike these federal laws
if their position was just if sanctuary cities were rooted
in some principle other than just the platitudes of like
one nation of immigrants and all that stuff. If sanctuary
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cities the rules that they enact for themselves and that
they ignore the federal laws, of course, if it was
so important and so humanitarian, they should all be saying,
we need Congress to pass a law to make everybody
whoever comes here legal for any reason whatsoever, open borders
all the way.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Notice they won't do that, at least not not really.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, maybe one or two wacos in San Francisco
or something, but generally they won't say that. So how
much can they really have a moral and righteous point
of view on this? They should be shouting from the
rooftops laws about immigration are immoral. But that's a crazy
position if you have a country, an untenable position. So
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what they do is this halfway measure of Okay, federal
government does what it does, but we're going to make
it as hard as possible for the federal government to
enforce laws. This is nonsense. And here is Attorney General.
This is cut fourteen Attorney General Bondie on these sanctuary
cities play it.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
They had sanctuary policies here in DC, No longer they've
been working with us. You know, you have to tell
us if there are illegal aliens in your database. If
we're arresting someone, we are going to know if they're
an illegal alien. So last week I sent out thirty
two letters to mayors around the country, and I believed
the seven governors telling them, you better comply or you're next.
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If they don't comply with this, We're going to work
with our other agencies to cut off their federal funding.
We are going to send in law enforcement, just like
we did during the LA riots, just like we're doing
here in Washington, DC. And if they're not going to
keep their citizens safe, Donald Trump will keep them safe.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And federal government's going to step in here and the
enforcement's going to go up. And these localities that are
playing these games and think, you know games, also, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's a bit too flippant.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Because we've seen situations where local police and I'm not
blaming the individual cops because they don't make this policy.
I understand that I'm blaming people in the NYPD for
the city's sanctuary policies. I am blaming the voters, and
I am blaming the police commissioner and the mayors of
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these various cities for what they do because they're setting
these policies. But there have been case is, many cases
where an illegal was in custody and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Was really here.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Just recently, there was a team tell me where where exactly?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's curt. I saw the video of it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
A guy who was supposed to be deported and Biden
Biden's administration said, oh no, we're not going to deport
him because he he's scared of going back to India
for whatever reason. And now he just was involved in
a fatal He was in a semi and he tried
to turn around on the on the highway and a
few people died. That was in Florida, right, I was
(24:31):
here in my home state.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That just happened.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And so there are people who would be alive if
it were not for the federal government Democrat position under
Biden of we just want as many illegals to stay
here as possible, because that was their actual feeling, their
actual position, and then you get to may so so
it's the stakes are very high with this, That's what
I mean. It's it's not they're not just playing games.
They're actually they're actually ending lives, they're causing people to
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die with the policies they have that keep reckless criminals
and just keep these illegals in the in the cities
and playing this game of they don't actually have to
abide by the laws.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The rest of us do.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
As I always point out, and people say, what's the
big deal of someone's illegal? What's the big deal if
if I don't pay my taxes at all, makes no
difference to any living American. If any individual American doesn't
pay his taxes, why would you lock him up? Because
the law has meaning, right, the law has a claim
to all of us who are here in this country.
It's not about the immediate consequence is necessarily of the
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enforcement of that law.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
At least, it's not only about that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And this is why, you know, if they don't want
to deport illegals, if Democrats don't want to port llegals,
you know, I don't want to pay my taxes, So
what's the difference. So here we are now with the
Mayor of Boston, Michelle wou who, despite the pressure from
the federal government, she is saying that she is going
to continue with sanctuary policies.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Play thirteen.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Last week, Boston received a letter from the Attorney General
of the United States on official letterhead from the federal government,
threatening to prosecute city officials and withhold federal funds unless
we cooperate with carrying out mass deportations. The US Attorney
General asked for a response by today. Here is our response.
(26:23):
Stop attacking our cities to hide your administration's failures.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What does that even mean? What is the failure of
the Trump administration she's talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It wasn't Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Trump's only been in office for what seven months now,
It wasn't the Trump administration that allowed ten million illegals
to pile into the country in four years. It wasn't
the Trump administration that was responsible for the fifteen or
twenty million I legals who were here before that. So
what is the failure that Well, just I'm getting into
(26:59):
what she said here. Maybe is a waste of everyone's time.
But notice the tone of the tone of defiance here.
Someone should ask the mayor if they had a real
press corps in Boston. I don't know if they had
a real press corps in Boston with access to mayor.
Somebody should ask, so, do you think that the laws
that the federal governments trying to enforce shouldn't be laws?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Are they not laws?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Is there some rationale for nullification of them that you,
as an elected official and an American in an American city,
think you have some right to ignore or to supersede.
What is the superseding authority of the mayor of Boston.
That's what I want to know. I want someone to
answer that question for me, because she clearly thinks that
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she answers to some higher power. The open borders communist.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Dei apparatus is the higher power, I guess.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because otherwise she should be saying, you know what, you're right,
we will, we will assist in this effort that local
and state law enforcement. I worked in a fusion center
for the NYPD. We had FBI DEA Border Patrol, you know,
ice officials who are those cool guys that do the
Manhunter show, uh marshals, And.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We we had all these guys. We had all these.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Guys and gals together and NYPD intel, and we were
working together, stayed and local because so many of these,
so many crimes crossover and law enforcement should be in
all hands on deck situation, right, And yet when it
comes to this, the rules are different. It's not okay,
we don't have to uh, we don't have to work
(28:37):
with our federal partners.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Why and they.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Always appeal to emotion, Oh, because people are scared in cities. Well,
you're not supposed to be here illegally, you're not supposed
to do that. It's unfair to the American people who
bear the consequences consequences of the illegal and selfish decision
of people from all over the world to come here
outside of our laws and operate in violation day in
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and day out of our laws with their presence here.
And this is why I saw this. There were some
Moody's economists saying inflation will be four percent next year
because of mass deportations. Great, I mean if that's the price. Look,
I don't think inflation four percent is good. But if
inflation goes up but we actually get the mass deportation's
worth it absolutely worth it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
To me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
This is an existential issue for the future of the country.
This really determines whether we have a country or not.
And so if that means that there are going to
be some sad libs running around, well that's just too bad.
And you know, I think it was an important point
that Clay made before, I've made it too. It's Democrats
are willing to use law enforcement in the most ruthless
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fashion when it suits them, and we saw that with
January sixth individuals. They will ruin lives of people who
have never harmed a hair on anyone because MSNBC and
the New York Times editorial board tells them to.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
They will do that.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They will cheer for that. They will cheer for the
emiseration and destruction of their fellow Americans, their fellow human beings,
for the most minor offense.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
If it offends the.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
DEEI, Democrat, Biden, Communist gods, whatever it is, if it
upsets the left, the law enforcement should be used to destroy.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Look what they tried to do to Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
If Trump was found guilty on all those in the
four different trials, it would have.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Been in prison for hundreds of years. Something insane. These
people are nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But you find an MS thirteen gang member somewhere, it
is not even supposed to be in the country. We're
supposed to shed tears for this. Sorry, No, we're done
with this. We're done with those games. And more and
more people are going to see this. I think that
Trump is brilliant here with how he is exposing the
rotten mentality of Democrats on issues of law and order.
(31:02):
And here is Pam Bondi saying everyone's been hearing this.
This is cut fifteen, saying that people are telling her quietly,
sure Democrats, some of them are saying it too, thank
you for trying to make DC safe for play.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Fifteen.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Listen, our law enforcement officers are telling us that people
are coming up to them on the street and they
said a lot of people are walking by whispering saying
thank you, thank you, thank you. They're hearing stories every
single night and day of people saying that they feel
safe now to walk their own neighborhood where they live
because of what our great men and women in law
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enforcement are doing at the directive of the President.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I have friends who are Democrats who have lived in
DC for a long time, generally more centrist Democrats, you know,
but I and a couple of them I've talked to,
have even said Trump's right on this. They hate to
admit it, they hate to admit it, but you know,
they've got wives, they've got husbands, they've got kids, and
they don't really want maniacs stabbing them and stealing their
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BMW in the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, they actually don't want that, And at some
level they realize that they've been living with that specter
of fear and they don't have to. It doesn't have
to be this way. So that tells you a lot.
And it's another brilliant, another brilliant move by Trump here.
This administration is just is just cooking with cooking with
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getting a's so far.
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Speaker 1 (34:47):
So dynamic duo of radio will be with you on
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Speaker 2 (34:53):
So we'll dive into it together. Uh, Collar, do we
still have Kirk in North Dakota? Kirk in North Dakota.
You're up, buddy?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Hey? Buck? I love the show, Love President Trump. I
just add a question. You know they're rounding up these
homeless encampment's all these folks. What do you suppose they're
gonna do with them? That's just my question, I guess curious.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Sure, there's a few things. I mean, one is you
can give people and this is the case in some places.
I believe it's the case in Europe right now. In
some countries even where people have a if they find
you sleeping in like a park or you have a
tent out and you're sleeping in the street, you know,
they'll give you options of treatment center, homeless shelter or
(35:42):
whatever they you know, temporary housing facility, whatever they want
to call it. But the point is you just can't sleep,
you just can't live on the streets. And this is
a good thing because there's cities that have allowed this.
All it does is just concentrate addicts, addicts who are desperate,
who commit crimes, which drives away businesses and makes people
(36:02):
feel unsafe, and then you just create this vicious cycle.
So I don't think that they're going to send all
the homeless to North Dakota. That's your concern, Kirk. Too cold,
too cold up.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
There, my friend.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
So yeah, although not, this is probably lovely this time
of year. That's where we are for today on the show.
Make sure you send us your talkbacks and emails. We
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Third hour of playing Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we're joined by Senator Eric Schmidt of the great
State of Missouri. He's also got a new book out,
The Last Line of Defense Had to Beat the Left
in Court.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It is out today.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Senator Schmidt, thanks for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Up with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let's talk a little bit if we can, about law enforcement,
because you were the attorney general in your state of Missouri. Now,
Saint Louis has had a crime problem for quite some time,
and I'm sure that was a focus of some of
your efforts at the state level. If you had the writ,
the support, the backing of the federal government, whatever could
(00:41):
be brought to bear Trump administration saying let's clean up
crime in Saint Louis and we'll give you whatever resources
you need at the federal level to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Could you do it? What would change? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think one thing is you'd get some of the
centeral law enforcement officials out of Washington, d C. And
get them out into the country. I think as Hotels
talked about this, and I think senior leadership and Department
of Justice just talked about this. So there's just too
many honestly, of those folks are in d C. And
they're not helping, you know, take out the bad guys
across the country. Sadly, they were spending a lot of
(01:14):
their time and we talk about it in the book
Last Line of Defense, in the censorship effort, Russia Gate,
all this nonsense, all the man hour has been wrapped
up in this political you know, weaponization of the DOJ
as opposed to fighting crime. The other thing is one
of the things that we did when I was an
Attorney generals relatively what was unprecedent at the time. We
created something called the Safer Streets Initihip where we had
(01:36):
Deputy Attorney generals in our office deputized as assistant US attorneys.
So we added the capacity of prosecuting federal crime. When
you have let's just say you have a prosecutor in
Saint Louis and she's gone, but Kim Gardner was a
sorosback prosecutor. If they don't want to do their job,
then we worked with the US attorneys to go take
on carjackings and things like that. So it's a really
(01:56):
a successful program. When Biden came in, ironically, he scrapped
the program because he just you know that this just
was not their focus. So I'm glad President Trump's in there.
I'm glad you know he's getting his US attorneys. That's
going to be kind of next up when we get
back to get these US attorneys in place across the country,
and I think that'll help.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Are you stunned that Democrats seem unable to break the
reflexive opposition to anything Trump says, even when he says
things that are super super popular with most normal people
in the country. Keep men out of women's sports, let's
have less violent crime in Washington, d C. Hey, I'm
(02:34):
trying to do whatever I can to stop people from
getting killed in Ukraine in the war there. All of
these things don't seem particularly political to me. Yet Democrats
have so brought into Trump is hitler, Trump is going
to start World War three, whatever negative you want to
associate it with it that they seem unable to acknowledge
(02:55):
that he actually has a lot of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, I think it's less political clay, and it's more psychological.
At this point, it truly is. It truly is a
psychosis and Trump arrangement syndrome is real, and it manifests
itself in just some crazy ways. If you gave a
couple of examples, they're already actually taking criminals off the
streets in Washington, DC. Krjackings have been up five hundred
plus percent in five years. Clearly something needs to be done,
(03:20):
but they don't want them to do it. You've got
it president who's has the confidence and the strength to
actually try to broker a deal in the bloodiest war
in Europe since World War Two, And they just tried
to undercut them at every turn. And I think the
classic example, which is why I don't think they've hit
rock bottom yet, is this issue of illegal immigration. I mean,
they cannot help themselves. Chris van Holland goes to El
(03:44):
Salvador and has margaritas with an MS thirteen member because
they hate Trump so much. It's bizarre. But I think
they've got a couple more election cycles in them where
they're going to continue to lose before they wake up.
And this is just no longer the party of Perry
Truman or even Clinton. This has been captured by the
radical left.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Now, you were part of some of the battles, legal
battles that the well the forces of constitutionalism and the
rule of law but also Republicans and Trump supporters were
involved in recent years. I know that's something you deal
with in the book.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How should we view.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The fact that they brought four criminal cases against a president.
They held those prosecutions specifically so they would occur in
an election year. I mean, on the one hand, Senator,
it's well, Trump is president and all's well, that ends well.
But in the other hand, that is a shocking precedent,
breach betrayal, I would say, of the American people's trust,
(04:44):
and they actually did it. I feel like we're still
processing that that happened, because it happened so recently.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, And one of the reasons why I wrote Last
Line of Defense, which you can get on Amazon right now,
is there is a tendency, guys, I think too now
that that we're the fever dream the fever broke. I
think in November twenty twenty four of this kind of crazy,
woke nonsense and the lawfair that was brought against President
Trump to throw him in jail for the rest of
his life. There's a tendency to kind of gloss all
(05:11):
that over. But you got to remember the dark days,
and I was on your show talking about this was
why I think your audience really liked the book. This
was a time of lockdowns, some pulsory COVID shots, open borders,
DEI struggle, sessions, ESD requirements, and a censorship enterprise so
vast that the Biden administration instituted that was the biggest
(05:31):
affront of the First Amendment in American history. This is
all just like in a four year period of time
where they opened up the floodgates on all this and
we had to push back. And so while President Trump
was out of power, we were able to kind of
hold the line on a lot of this for the
cavalry to rise. In November of last year, it did arrive,
and President Trump finished this you know, epic historic comeback.
And we're talking about all the good things that Clay
(05:53):
you just mentioned they're happening that Democrats are still opposed to.
But there's a lot of important lessons learned. I mean,
whether it was you know, we took that vacing mandate case,
always Frome court, we won. We took the Missouri took
the student on deth forgiveness case always from court we won.
I sued fifty plus school districts in Missouri for their
forced mass mandates. We won. We had the censorship case,
and what that shows and what the story is so important.
(06:15):
It's kind of behind the scenes. Look at what was
it like to take the deppel of Anthony Fauci, What
was it like to take the deposition of Elvis Chan
at the FBI who was pre bunking the Hunter Biden
laptop story. We did all that. The point is you
got to have courage. It's a lot easier to just
go to ribbon cuttings or just kind of walk along
than it is. We've got to stand up and fight.
And President Trump, I think, has transformed the Republican Party now,
(06:36):
certainly from the one that I grew up in, into
much more not just a working class party, but a
party that's just not going to lie down. We're going
to stand up, We're going to fight back, and if
we do it, we can actually win. So the book
is kind of a playbook on how we did it
then and how we can do it moving forward.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Okay, I love everything that's happening now. I think most
people out there listening do as well. Here's my concern,
and you know this better than anybody, because you were
involved in so many of these lawsuits. All of a sudden,
it's acceptable to say, hey, we believe in the marketplace
of ideas. Hey, we shouldn't be rigging the algorithms. Hey
we shouldn't be artificially inserting ourselves into the public discourse
(07:15):
and manipulating the results. Yet twenty twenty one, every social
media company in America ban Donald Trump from getting on
I like the joke because it kind of brings it home.
Pinterest banned Donald Trump pest like he couldn't share his
scrap book collages for people out there. How do we
(07:38):
stop this from happening when Trump isn't in office and
may ensure that what we are doing now is going
to extend into the future no matter who the president
happens to be.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, a couple things. One is I think there has
to be accountability for some of these actions. I think
the most I've an ot at about this, I think
you can draw a straight line, like, ironically Obamas has
immunity because of the case that that was brought against
President Trump presidential media, but Clapper doesn't, Brennan doesn't, Coomy doesn't,
(08:11):
And if you can prove beyond this, you have a
statue limitation issues. But you don't if there's a conspiracy,
and it was an ongoing conspiracy, because if you like
the fuse in a conspiracy, whatever happens a mile down
the road, you're still responsible for. And these guys knew
it was fake, they knew it was BS. They laundered
that stupid stile dossier into an actual intelligence report, and
(08:32):
they tried to not only a coup, but tried to
sideline an entire first term of a president. And then
of course that was the impetus for all of the Oh,
this is Russian disinformation, This is Russian misinformation. Everything was
about Russian, this, Russian that, even though it was all BS.
And so I don't think we should just forget about that.
I think there have to be repercussions. And as far
as like social media companies, you guys know this, it's
(08:54):
a good thing that they have something called Section two
thirty protections, meaning they're a platform, not a play publisher,
meaning they're not legally responsible if somebody has, you know,
an opinion that you disagree with on that platform. That's
good for free speech, but you don't get to have
it both ways. You don't get the multi billion dollar
subsidy of being a platform where you can't be sued,
but then also try to manipulate what's on your platform
(09:16):
in an editorial like decision. So I think they got
a pick, and if they picked the wrong one, then
you're a publisher. You don't have the protections. I also
think a reform that will be important that I talk
about in the both two is these individual bureaucrats. If
you're engaged in suppressing somebody's First Amendment rights, you individually
ought to be able to be sued. There ought to
be an individual right of an action for an American
citizen to sue you for suppressing your speech about, you know,
(09:39):
questioning masks and how they work for kids or not.
That would change the kind of risk dynamic that currently works. Because,
as you guys know, the beercrafts aren't accountable to anybody.
We need to start making them accountable to real people.
So there's a few things that we can do. But
you know what we saw guys in that four year
period in particular, if that was going on somewhere else,
like you know, the law and the censorship and all
(10:01):
this mass migration, all this stuff that is being used
with tax thir dollars to fund. You know, we would
be the State Department would be warning American citizens about
that place. But that was happening here. And again, the
story of the Last Line of Defense that you can
get on Amazon now is about standing up, pushing back.
If you do it, if you've got the courage, that
you can win. And this is a playbook of how
(10:22):
conservatives moving forward can can fight and win in the courts,
which we've always kind of resisted because we thought that
was their terrain.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Okay, procedurally, you're an expert on this. Democrats have a
huge advantage in DC because they have basically a ninety
five percent approval rating in DC, they can get any
indictment they want. How do you deal with that if
you're talking about bringing conspiracy charges? I don't need like
(10:48):
a you know, law review analysis style, but just for
me and people out there who have a general sense
that this is a problem, how do you rectify that?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, once you have a conspiracy moving forward, it doesn't
just exist exclusively in Washington, DC, it emanates out. So
for example, which and I'm just using this potentially as
an example, but let's just say that the raid at
mar A Lago was really about getting documents back that
they thought President Trump had as related to the Steele dossier.
(11:18):
I'm just throwing out a scenario, yeahpathetically. Of course, if
that were the case, You've got Southern Florida's where you
can issue indictments. Because again, remember if Jack Smith is
using a phony intelligence report that was generated by Brennan
and Kobe and Clapper, like they begin in the conspiracy
process and he's furthering the conspiracy in South Florida. Again,
(11:40):
the jurisdiction you can kind of work in gets much broader,
and I think that's one area that they might they
might look at.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Senator.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Appreciate you being with us, and just want to tell
everybody one last time. Go check out the book which
is out today, the Senator's new book, Very important, very
good stuff, The Last Line Defense, How to beat the
Left in court. Appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
All right, guys, stick care, Thank you.
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By the voice.
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And we had the big question yesterday after the meeting
with a whole host of European leaders. Ask yourself, honestly,
how many of us could name all the European leaders
who were there by photo, you know, go through them all.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I could get most of them, almost all of them,
maybe all of them.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But it's interesting to me how these leaders in these
big European countries come and go and it's like no
one even you know here Starmer, like, did anyone did
anyone ever hear of this guy before became Premtice? Anyway,
I know they got their own problems. We got our
own problems, so we try to focus too much on it.
But the meetia yesterday with Trump and Zelenski and the
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big question that a lot of us had, and some
of you wrote in and were very now, Trump didn't
say one way or the other, and we weren't saying that.
Trump said one way or the other about US basing
or US troops on call to respond to a Russian invasion,
post piece post settlement, right, another version of another time
(14:23):
of Russian aggression. Trump didn't say yes, he didn't say no.
But when you're talking security guarantees, that's obviously something that
people are going to be thinking about. This is clearly
a part of it. If I were Zelenski and I
was told anything short of America will militarily back up
(14:45):
the settlement, I don't know that I would trust the
Europeans to come in there and get it done right.
I'm just thinking about it from the Ukrainian perspective now.
He also, as Trump says, doesn't have the cards. So
beggars can't be choosers, as the phrase goes, and they
need this war to end as soon as they can
get it to end. The Ukrainians do. But here is
(15:06):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, who is putting it
forward just because I thought Trump said this, but because
he's Trump. It was the way he said it maybe
left a little bit of space. He said, I assure you,
and then pivoted to something else. He didn't finish that sentence.
Here is White House Press Secretary Levit, play thirty seven.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
The President has definitively stated US boots will not be
on the ground in Ukraine, but we can certainly help
in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security
guarantees to our European allies. The President understands security guarantees
are crucially important to ensure a lasting piece, and he
has directed his National security team to coordinate with our
(15:45):
friends in Europe and also to continue to cooperate and
discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Now that's as clear as it can be, right, So,
I think the White House has settled that issue that
was a concern yesterday, and it's something that I think
we're right to be very focused in on. But knowing
Trump and knowing the way that he understands US interests
and also sees the mistakes that have been made by
(16:13):
previous administrations, He's not about to stumble us into some
military position in Ukraine where we've got, you know, eighty
second airborne taking fire from Russian spetsnas or something like.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I just we don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't think that's going to happen, and the White
House have made very clear that it won't. It is
interesting though, now, as she mentioned their coordination and other
means of security guarantees, it's gonna have to be europe.
It's gonna have to be European allies, because it matters
a whole lot more to them. Right, Whether you believe
that Putin next stop on the Putin train is going
(16:52):
to be the Baltics or Poland or some peace really
thereof is much more likely. It would be a version
of what we saw originally in eastern Ukraine, where it's oh,
Russian speaking separatists, Moscow is stepping into mediate but it's
not an invasion. But this is the Russian masked way
of covert warfare.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They try to play the propaganda angles, the political angles,
as well as the military. If you're European countries, especially
in the neighborhood, you know, not so much like Spain
and Portugal, right, but if you're right in the neighborhood
of Ukraine, you recognize that your security is far more
implicated by what happens there than America's, and it's time
(17:34):
for Europe to step up. We have entered a new
era where European countries, thanks to Donald Trump, I might add,
who has pushed for them to increase their military spending,
but also just increase their sense of accountability.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
For their own security.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Remember people saying, oh, Trump is undermining NATO, it's the
opposite of what happened. NATO is stronger now because Trump
held NATO allies to account.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right, Look, Trump is a lot, Ruby is doing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
They're focusing on ending of the war in Ukraine and
doing everything possible to make this economy roar. And that's fantastic.
And I'm very bullish about Trump's economy. But I'm talking
now to you about the direction of the country and
the dollar over the next ten twenty thirty years and
how you should take action now because money printing is
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going to continue. We're at thirty seven trillion dollars in debt,
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We've got more cuts coming to you more soundbites to
dive into together here about crime in d C momentarily
and also Trump on the Russia Ukraine War.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But sentially we don't really have When we don't really
have names for wars, it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Feels like the same way that we did, almost like
you know, we don't have names for diseases the same way,
or at least there's been to move away from it now,
that's what it's COVID nineteen, COVID twenty, COVID twenty one.
Also with wars, is there a proper Ukraine's been in
more than one war, so is Russia. So is there
a proper name for this other than just the Russia
(19:40):
Ukraine War. We used to name these things, right, We
used to talk about the Crimean War, for example.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Everybody knows what that refers to. It's a specific time
in history. You refer to the what the Franco Prussian War,
you refer to.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
The Soviet War, Right, There's a whole bunch of them.
And yet with this one doesn't really feel like there's
a proper term for it. Okay, I guess we do
the military military operations, so Operation Enduring Freedom, operation I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You know all those ones.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
All right, back to the task at hands here, our
Attorney General, Pam Bondi is doing a lot. There's a
lot going on with the dj and their mandate is
to clean up a whole bunch of things, the DOJ itself,
illegal immigration which has just swarmed over the country millions
(20:35):
tens of millions of people, and then of course just
outright criminality on our streets, and sanctuary policies in these cities.
The whole thing is such an affront when you take
a step back and think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
For a moment.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
These are law enforcement officials in essence. I mean the
mayor of Boston, for example. We'll get to this in
a second, oversees the police commissioner, who oversees all the police.
So it's in the chain of command. You're effectively a
law enforcement officer of one kind or another, and you're
certainly an executive branch official with oversight over the law
(21:10):
enforcement officials.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And for them to say.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We want to in every way possible obstruct existing federal law.
Notice how they'll never advocate to strike these federal laws
if their position was just if sanctuary cities were rooted
in some principle other than just the platitudes of like
one nation of immigrants and all that stuff. If sanctuary
(21:36):
cities the rules that they enact for themselves and that
they ignore the federal laws, of course, if it was
so important and so humanitarian, they should all be saying,
we need Congress to pass a law to make everybody
whoever comes here legal for any reason whatsoever, open borders
all the way.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Notice they won't do that, at least not not really.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, maybe one or two wacos in San Francisco
or something, but generally they won't say that. So how
much can they really have a moral and righteous point
of view on this? They should be shouting from the
rooftops laws about immigration are immoral. But that's a crazy
position if you have a country, an untenable position. So
(22:21):
what they do is this halfway measure of Okay, federal
government does what it does, but we're going to make
it as hard as possible for the federal government to
enforce laws. This is nonsense. And here is Attorney General.
This is cut fourteen Attorney General Bondie on these sanctuary
cities play it.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
They had sanctuary policies here in DC, No longer they've
been working with us. You know, you have to tell
us if there are illegal aliens in your database. If
we're arresting someone, we are going to know if they're
an illegal alien. So last week I sent out thirty
two letters to mayors around the country, and I believed
the seven governors telling them, you better comply or you're next.
(23:02):
If they don't comply with this, We're going to work
with our other agencies to cut off their federal funding.
We are going to send in law enforcement, just like
we did during the LA riots, just like we're doing
here in Washington, DC. And if they're not going to
keep their citizens safe, Donald Trump will keep them safe.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And federal government's going to step in here and the
enforcement's going to go up. And these localities that are
playing these games and think, you know games, also, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's a bit too flippant.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Because we've seen situations where local police and I'm not
blaming the individual cops because they don't make this policy.
I understand that I'm blaming people in the NYPD for
the city's sanctuary policies. I am blaming the voters, and
I am blaming the police commissioner and the mayors of
(23:54):
these various cities for what they do because they're setting
these policies. But there have been case is, many cases
where an illegal was in custody and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Was really here.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Just recently, there was a team tell me where where exactly?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's curt. I saw the video of it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
A guy who was supposed to be deported and Biden
Biden's administration said, oh no, we're not going to deport
him because he he's scared of going back to India
for whatever reason. And now he just was involved in
a fatal He was in a semi and he tried
to turn around on the on the highway and a
few people died. That was in Florida, right, I was
(24:31):
here in my home state.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That just happened.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And so there are people who would be alive if
it were not for the federal government Democrat position under
Biden of we just want as many illegals to stay
here as possible, because that was their actual feeling, their
actual position, and then you get to may so so
it's the stakes are very high with this, That's what
I mean. It's it's not they're not just playing games.
They're actually they're actually ending lives, they're causing people to
(24:56):
die with the policies they have that keep reckless criminals
and just keep these illegals in the in the cities
and playing this game of they don't actually have to
abide by the laws.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The rest of us do.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
As I always point out, and people say, what's the
big deal of someone's illegal? What's the big deal if
if I don't pay my taxes at all, makes no
difference to any living American. If any individual American doesn't
pay his taxes, why would you lock him up? Because
the law has meaning, right, the law has a claim
to all of us who are here in this country.
It's not about the immediate consequence is necessarily of the
(25:35):
enforcement of that law.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
At least, it's not only about that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And this is why, you know, if they don't want
to deport illegals, if Democrats don't want to port llegals,
you know, I don't want to pay my taxes, So
what's the difference. So here we are now with the
Mayor of Boston, Michelle wou who, despite the pressure from
the federal government, she is saying that she is going
to continue with sanctuary policies.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Play thirteen.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Last week, Boston received a letter from the Attorney General
of the United States on official letterhead from the federal government,
threatening to prosecute city officials and withhold federal funds unless
we cooperate with carrying out mass deportations. The US Attorney
General asked for a response by today. Here is our response.
(26:23):
Stop attacking our cities to hide your administration's failures.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What does that even mean? What is the failure of
the Trump administration she's talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It wasn't Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Trump's only been in office for what seven months now,
It wasn't the Trump administration that allowed ten million illegals
to pile into the country in four years. It wasn't
the Trump administration that was responsible for the fifteen or
twenty million I legals who were here before that. So
what is the failure that Well, just I'm getting into
(26:59):
what she said here. Maybe is a waste of everyone's time.
But notice the tone of the tone of defiance here.
Someone should ask the mayor if they had a real
press corps in Boston. I don't know if they had
a real press corps in Boston with access to mayor.
Somebody should ask, so, do you think that the laws
that the federal governments trying to enforce shouldn't be laws?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Are they not laws?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Is there some rationale for nullification of them that you,
as an elected official and an American in an American city,
think you have some right to ignore or to supersede.
What is the superseding authority of the mayor of Boston.
That's what I want to know. I want someone to
answer that question for me, because she clearly thinks that
(27:44):
she answers to some higher power. The open borders communist.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Dei apparatus is the higher power, I guess.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because otherwise she should be saying, you know what, you're right,
we will, we will assist in this effort that local
and state law enforcement. I worked in a fusion center
for the NYPD. We had FBI DEA Border Patrol, you know,
ice officials who are those cool guys that do the
Manhunter show, uh marshals, And.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We we had all these guys. We had all these.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Guys and gals together and NYPD intel, and we were
working together, stayed and local because so many of these,
so many crimes crossover and law enforcement should be in
all hands on deck situation, right, And yet when it
comes to this, the rules are different. It's not okay,
we don't have to uh, we don't have to work
(28:37):
with our federal partners.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Why and they.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Always appeal to emotion, Oh, because people are scared in cities. Well,
you're not supposed to be here illegally, you're not supposed
to do that. It's unfair to the American people who
bear the consequences consequences of the illegal and selfish decision
of people from all over the world to come here
outside of our laws and operate in violation day in
(29:04):
and day out of our laws with their presence here.
And this is why I saw this. There were some
Moody's economists saying inflation will be four percent next year
because of mass deportations. Great, I mean if that's the price. Look,
I don't think inflation four percent is good. But if
inflation goes up but we actually get the mass deportation's
worth it absolutely worth it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
To me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
This is an existential issue for the future of the country.
This really determines whether we have a country or not.
And so if that means that there are going to
be some sad libs running around, well that's just too bad.
And you know, I think it was an important point
that Clay made before, I've made it too. It's Democrats
are willing to use law enforcement in the most ruthless
(29:49):
fashion when it suits them, and we saw that with
January sixth individuals. They will ruin lives of people who
have never harmed a hair on anyone because MSNBC and
the New York Times editorial board tells them to.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
They will do that.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They will cheer for that. They will cheer for the
emiseration and destruction of their fellow Americans, their fellow human beings,
for the most minor offense.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
If it offends the.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
DEEI, Democrat, Biden, Communist gods, whatever it is, if it
upsets the left, the law enforcement should be used to destroy.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Look what they tried to do to Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
If Trump was found guilty on all those in the
four different trials, it would have.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Been in prison for hundreds of years. Something insane. These
people are nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But you find an MS thirteen gang member somewhere, it
is not even supposed to be in the country. We're
supposed to shed tears for this. Sorry, No, we're done
with this. We're done with those games. And more and
more people are going to see this. I think that
Trump is brilliant here with how he is exposing the
rotten mentality of Democrats on issues of law and order.
(31:02):
And here is Pam Bondi saying everyone's been hearing this.
This is cut fifteen, saying that people are telling her quietly,
sure Democrats, some of them are saying it too, thank
you for trying to make DC safe for play.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Fifteen.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Listen, our law enforcement officers are telling us that people
are coming up to them on the street and they
said a lot of people are walking by whispering saying
thank you, thank you, thank you. They're hearing stories every
single night and day of people saying that they feel
safe now to walk their own neighborhood where they live
because of what our great men and women in law
(31:38):
enforcement are doing at the directive of the President.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I have friends who are Democrats who have lived in
DC for a long time, generally more centrist Democrats, you know,
but I and a couple of them I've talked to,
have even said Trump's right on this. They hate to
admit it, they hate to admit it, but you know,
they've got wives, they've got husbands, they've got kids, and
they don't really want maniacs stabbing them and stealing their
(32:05):
BMW in the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, they actually don't want that, And at some
level they realize that they've been living with that specter
of fear and they don't have to. It doesn't have
to be this way. So that tells you a lot.
And it's another brilliant, another brilliant move by Trump here.
This administration is just is just cooking with cooking with
(32:26):
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pleased with what I am seeing on the immigration, immigration economy, crime,
getting a's so far.
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Speaker 1 (34:47):
So dynamic duo of radio will be with you on
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So we'll dive into it together. Uh, Collar, do we
still have Kirk in North Dakota? Kirk in North Dakota.
You're up, buddy?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Hey? Buck? I love the show, Love President Trump. I
just add a question. You know they're rounding up these
homeless encampment's all these folks. What do you suppose they're
gonna do with them? That's just my question, I guess curious.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Sure, there's a few things. I mean, one is you
can give people and this is the case in some places.
I believe it's the case in Europe right now. In
some countries even where people have a if they find
you sleeping in like a park or you have a
tent out and you're sleeping in the street, you know,
they'll give you options of treatment center, homeless shelter or
(35:42):
whatever they you know, temporary housing facility, whatever they want
to call it. But the point is you just can't sleep,
you just can't live on the streets. And this is
a good thing because there's cities that have allowed this.
All it does is just concentrate addicts, addicts who are desperate,
who commit crimes, which drives away businesses and makes people
(36:02):
feel unsafe, and then you just create this vicious cycle.
So I don't think that they're going to send all
the homeless to North Dakota. That's your concern, Kirk. Too cold,
too cold up.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
There, my friend.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
So yeah, although not, this is probably lovely this time
of year. That's where we are for today on the show.
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