November 11, 2024 • 36 mins
Buck predicted in August Trump would beat Kamala by bigger electoral margin than 2016. Jim Jordan asks where 10 million Democrat votes from 2020 went. Will Trump pardon Hunter? OutKick's Riley Gaines joins C&B to discuss the impact of the men in women's sports debate on the election and why young people shifted towards Trump. Gambling markets favor Rick Scott for Senate Majority Leader.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The third hour of Clay and Buck returns to you
right now, and man, I feel good, and indeed, Clay,
I knew that I would. With the Trump victory here,
it is fantastic. Feels like the country like a weight
has been lifted. The future is bright for all Americans,
even those who unfortunately voted for COMMLA. But that's okay,
(00:21):
It's going to be better for all Americans. Things might
get a little complicated for some illegals who have come
into the country and committed crimes in particular while they're here.
But for Americans, I think the future is very bright, indeed,
and we should talk about what that looks like, what
the mission is. I just want to go back to
this in case you weren't with us the first hour.
(00:42):
Some important stats here for the victory, as more numbers
are coming in. First off, we know we have a
Trump victory. We know we have a popular vote win
by Donald Trump. Seventy five million approximately votes for Donald Trum,
beating the seventy four million that he got In twenty twenty,
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eighty percent of counties moved to the right nationwide, eighty
percent of counties overall became more Republican and you have
lots and lots of data to look at, and we'll
have more also on the different breakdowns demographics. Clay was
talking about how the youth vote much stronger for Trump
than a lot of people anticipated. And I do if
(01:25):
I made there was a moment in time in August
when Kamala Harris was all, Oh, my.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Gosh, Kamla Harrison is gonna win. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
There the media was running the playbook, Oh she's up
in all the swing states overnight, and oh and I Clay, Now,
this wasn't a bet.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This was just a prediction.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But I gotta say this was in August, in the
darkest moments for the Trump campaign, at least according to
the media. I don't think Trump campaign believed any of
this crap. But this was the prediction I made in
August of this year. Play twenty five. It's gonna be okay.
Trump's gonna win this thing, all right. I have I
have faith that he's gonna win, and he's gonna win solidly.
(02:06):
I think I'll tell you this it mark this prediction down.
I think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than
he beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There you go. Who would have seen that coming? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Remember what we felt like in twenty sixteen. I think
he will beat Kamala Harris in the electoral College by
a wider margin.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Than he beat Hillary Clinton. I think that will actually
happen this time. You nailed me.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Where were you broadcasting from? It sounds like you were
on a submarine somewhere in like the North Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was in a freedom bunker in the woods somewhere
in August. You know, as one does, no worries about it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But I'm just saying, there, bigger electoral win for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You nailed that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When this reminds me of when you watch an old
highlight and you're like, why is the the did HD
not exist there?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Like? I don't know where that It does sound like
you were.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You were maybe on in the middle of the hunt
for Red October, like having to send up the con
to be able to reach everybody, but you were confident.
You did not waiver from the moment that Kamalo was
elevated on I believe July twenty first, if I remember correctly,
that Sunday, you never doubted. I got nervous about the time,
(03:19):
probably when you were when you were saying that. And look,
I mean the one thing I got right as we
got closer was Trump won the popular vote, and Buck,
I think that is making it almost impossible for Democrats
to know how to respond to this, because you know,
if he had won the electoral college, they'd be all
out there screaming about how we had to abolish the
(03:40):
electoral college. When you win the electoral college and the
popular vote, and you win by the biggest margin of
any Republican since nineteen eighty eight, the talking points aren't
there to be able to really attack Trump, like what
angled can you even go.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
After him on?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I have to say I think that some of the
legacy Democrat media was really hoping that it would at
least be close enough that there would be this case
to be made that they could, you know, they could stick.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
To everything that they did, and they did everything great.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The people who have come out and said that Kamala ran,
and there have been a number of them, a perfect campaign,
and she was a great candidate, and the Democrat message
was very powerful and strong. It's just racism and sexism
that stopped her from winning, are being laughed at, not
just by Republicans, they're actually being laughed at pretty broadly
by some powerful voices within the Democrat tent who have
(04:36):
just said, you know the things, you know, prioritizing transagenda,
illegal immigrants, the rights of criminals, these are things that people,
normal people don't react well to. And you need to
win a few percent of the country nationally that are
in that sort of normy vote, if you will. And
(04:57):
they didn't. And this is what happened. And I think
it's a pro found it should be a profound lesson
play Do you think they learned the lesson or do
you think they just they run the same playbook? They say,
Donald Trump just ran again. Why can't we just run
the same playbook next time? A lot of them are
not going to learn the lesson. I think the question
we will find out of whether they learn the lesson
or not will come in how the twenty twenty eight
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Democrat presidential primary plays itself out. And let me explain
why I think that in twenty twenty Democrats lost their mind.
You can argue that Kamala Harris didn't lose the twenty
twenty four race. Actually, in the twenty twenty four race,
she lost it when she said she opposed fracking. She
lost it when she said she supported transgender surgery for
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illegal immigrant inmates. She lost it when she tried to
ban plastic straw. She lost it when she said the
border wall was racist. All of those things were said
in twenty twenty, and then she did a poor job
as vice president. I'm curious to see buck when everybody
throws their hat in and they start running in twenty
twenty eight, will there be a Bill Clinton like figure
(06:05):
who I remember? Clinton rose from the ashes of the
Ronald Reagan double win, of the George HW. Bush win
and tried to run as a somewhat centrist Democrat, and
then he got over his skis in ninety two. By
ninety four, Republican revolution happens, and in ninety six he's
basically running as a Republican. If you go back and
(06:27):
remember that race, he tried to triangulate with Dick Morris
some intern issues. But will there be sanity because right
now what you're seeing is we played that clip from
CNN of that crazy left winger. The left wing is
still trying to police what Democrats can say. And as
long as the left wing is out there saying, you
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can't say that that's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist, whatever
you want to say. You can't actually have honest conversations
in the Democrat Party in the public arena. These people
out there, deep down understand how crazy this is. Let
me give you another point on this buck.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
This transports issue, which we're going to talk about with
Riley Gains here in a bit. Do you know Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris neither one has still been asked
if they support boys who identify as girls being able
to play in girl sports. That has never been asked
of either person. Biden's been in office for almost four years,
not one question about it. Kamala got asked by Brett
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Bayer about the illegal surgery for or transgender surgery for
illegal immigrants, but not about girl sports particularly. This is evidence,
I think of the media trying to protect them because
they know that it's an incredible weakness of the Democrat
Party and however they answer it, they're going to get attacked.
(07:49):
I've said, it's still crazy to me that Biden never
has had to answer this question, and it's the number
one question that I would ask if I were sitting
down talking to Kamala or Biden, because to me it
goes to the essence of this.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I also have a question that I would want to
ask Clay what happened to the ten million voters? Jim Jordan,
our friend in Congress, friend of the show good Man,
he asked this question on CNN State of the Union,
and this has cut eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
There are false claims about election fraud when Donald Trump lost.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
This time Donald Trump won, and you think the election
was free and fair.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You see, there's a little bit of a no.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I think the Democrats got to ask why did we
go from getting eighty one million to getting seventy million?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
What happened to those ten million people?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think it's because they had no vision, no record
to run on, and they just wanted to call everyone names.
Turns out when you turns out you when you tell people, oh,
your fascist, racist, deplorable garbage, they don't like that. And
then when you use lawfair to go after their candidate,
they don't like that either.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Now he's just saying on the messaging front, they you know,
they lost ten million votes and should have some soul searching.
That's a lot of votes to lose, even for a
really bad care I'm just putting that out there. I'm
not convinced it's just Kamala was a bad candidate. Remember
when sag your name wrong was They got so huffy
about it, the media like, oh, dare you know?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Trump would be.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like Kamala Kamala and they would just flip out about it.
You know, they should have focused on some more important things.
This is also evidence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It raises the question I thought Eric Schmidt said this
well in the second hour the program, Missouri Senator. I
don't see it as being partisan at all that you
should have to get your votes counted in twenty four hours.
Twenty four hours seems like a really broad arena to
figure out how votes went California as I speak to
you right now, according to the New York Times, Buck
(09:43):
has still only counted seventy two percent of the votes
that were cast. It's been six days. The reason why
we don't officially have a winner of the House yet
is because we have normalized week long.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Plus counting expeditions.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And I will just point out, by the grace of
Donald Trump's landslide, are we not all sitting around waiting
to see what's going to happen in Arizona and Nevada
to be able to pick a president. Trump already had
the majority on election night, thankfully, but Nevada and Arizona
are still counting. Do any of you feel like we
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would get a reliable count a week after the election
actually took place.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It can't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The longer the counting takes, the less confidence anyone has Republican, Democrat,
Independent in the actual tally. And in fact, the one
race that's still significant where the counting is still going
on and they're trying to extend it is in Pennsylvania,
where they're trying to take away Dave McCormick from his win.
Now he's got a forty thousand vote lead. The AP
(10:46):
has called it. He's going to be the Senator from Pennsylvania.
But all the people out there who told you have
to respect democracy and you can't deny elections, as soon
as they have the tinest, tiniest scintilla of an opportunity
to aallenge elections, guess what they do. They challenge elections.
And I bet buck there will be a bunch of
members of the Democrat House and a bunch of Democrat
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senators who are going to claim, by the time certification
happens that Trump didn't actually win and they have issues
with the way the count happen happened. I guarantee you
some members of the House and the Senate who are
Democrats are going to deny Trump's election in January.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
They have been though, they've been flabbergasted by this the
fun word to say.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They've been flabbergasted.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They've been slapped down in a way that they absolutely
were not expecting. You know, I was asked, Clay I
gave a speech over the weekend down here Miami Beach
at a conference, and I was asked, when are the
riots going to happen?
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Do I think there'll be some Antifa lunatics and stuff
in DC when Trump gets an argue? You know, probably
there's people that, Yeah, those people are just they're losers.
I mean, it's sad, you know they think that running
around dressed all in black.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And be like we're fighting fascism.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know, it's very sad. Lot of purple hair in
that crew. By the way, so you notice we don't
say blue hair anymore because some of you thought we
were talking about old people. Know, we mean people that
dye their hair like unnatural colors of you know, fusia
or you know, like electric pink or something. Okay, there's
a lot of that going on with the anti foot crowd.
I would say there's not going to be any real
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movement toward the riots that a lot of us were expecting, though,
just because they got beat so badly that they can't
even I'm gonna do a little sports clay.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You ready for this?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
You have this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
If you lose by four touchdowns and you complain about
the refs, you just get made fun of. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, If you lose by a field goal and you
say that one of those yellow flags got thrown for
the penalty or things, then maybe you have a case, right,
But if you lose by four touchdowns, you just look
like a cry baby.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And Democrats kind of lost by three or four touchdowns here.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They lost by three or four touchdowns. I also think
to your point, they acknowledge the Hitler thing is so
such July Biden is having lunch with Trump in the
White House on Wednesday. Would you ever have lunch in
the White House with Hitler? I mean they just abandoned
it as soon.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
As they lost. I mean honestly, Yeah, think about.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It's quite a philosophy question.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I mean, if Hitler was like inviting you over before
all the really bad stuff happened for lunch.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like, I mean, are you gonna sit with Hitler and
be like, Hey, would you like scrambled?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Would you like eggs over easy? Hey? Maybe some avocado toast? No,
it was all a lie.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They went from Trump is Hitler to hey, We're gonna
have lunch together in one day.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So I'm just gonna say I think Trump should come out.
And I've gotten some of you disagree with me in this.
That's fine. I like a little disagreement, you know what
I mean, I'm gonna Thanksgiving in the Sexten household just
turns into you know, who is the most right wing
at the table out of the time, So we even
fight even though we agree on stuff. Clay, I would say,
I think Trump should broach the topic of pardoning Hunter
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because it gives it creates a tone, It creates a
political win for him, a little political capital of being
a reasonable guy, being you know, being a night just
like he was with Hillary. Didn't go after Hillary, after
his after his women twenty sixteen. I think Biden's going
to pardon Biden. You know, Hunter will pardon I'm sorry,
(14:19):
Hunter will pardon. Joe will pardon Hunter anyway, But why
not just say I just you know, if if Joe
doesn't want to do it, I'll do it. If he
doesn't want to, like Sully his hands with pardoning his
own son as a new president, I would do it
because I don't think Joe would wait for that. But
I think it gets ahead of it in a way
where there's nothing but upside for him.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
A part of me thinks Joe Biden might pardon Trump
while also pardoning Hunter.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It would be if, first of all, I think him
pardoning Trump create a lot of upside for him in
the legacy department. He would have won, and he would
have been the magnanimous elder statesman grossly shoved his side
by nefarious forces within the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I found.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was gonna say, if I'm the curator of the
Biden museum, like this is a good thing, think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Book Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It doesn't change the fact that Biden will have gone
after him and been totally the head of a Department
of Justice running rough shot over his political opponents. But
in the history books, when people don't go into the
specific so understanding everything, it might be seen as an
important olid branch. It also would allow him to then
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pardon Hunter and not create the same storm of attention.
You made that call a long time ago, and you
may end up being read in it, and that would
be that would be quite a that would be a
distant you know, quite a distant prediction. I hit right
on the mic H. D. Vans and thank you very
much in that sort of vein of a long, long
way out prediction. I just say this, Clay, I also
(15:57):
want Trump to and the incoming administration to just do
what they can to calm down the lunatics, because if
they really move forward on these deportations, stuff is going
to get.
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Welcome back into Clay and Book.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Riley Gains is with us now of OutKick and she
was a top swimmer as you will call and swim
against the guy who swam then as a girl.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Riley, appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
The ad that everybody has been talking about post election results.
So I think after people have seen what really resonated
and what the numbers were, right now the data are
in and the ad was she's he meaning Trump is
for you, she meaning Kama is for they them. Why
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was that the single most effective ad of the entire
multi billion dollar political cycle.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I mean, first of all, it's great to be on
with you. Look that was as effective as it was because,
I mean say it again out loud, he is for you,
she is for the them. Can you imagine our founding
fathers hearing that. I mean, they wouldn't even understand what
that means. They wouldn't even be able to grasp the
concept of what is being said. But that's the reality
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of where we are as a nation. Now, I mean,
it's seemingly that we have an entire political party that has,
at least in terms of elected representation and how our
media represents this issue, that has I mean embraced this
gender ideology movement wholeheartedly. You've got the whole pronoun thing
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like we've just stated, but also calling Latino voters or
Latino individuals latin x. I mean, this just doesn't resonate
with your everyday common sense person. It shows how out
of touch with reality the Democratic Party has become and
would certainly continue being if we were to have to
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live through a Harris Walt administration.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Riley, good to hear from you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was with you on election night six days ago,
and as the results are coming in, I told you,
I think this election might have been different if Leah
Thomas does not swim against you, and if the absurdity
of that wasn't crystallized not only with the event itself,
but with you speaking out against it. It happened in Georgia,
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which is a swing state, Riley, you had to swim
against Leah, who was from Pennsylvania, which is certainly a
swing state. Sometimes it takes a little while for arguments
to crystallize. Do you think that incident was potentially dispositive
and who ended up winning this race?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
You know what, no doubt I do. Actually, it just
really expedited similar to COVID. Honestly, it expedited this this
which showed us which leaders were willing to, I mean
emphatically say that men can become women. And again, when
you do that, your credibility has just been compromised on
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every single topic. Why would I believe a word that
comes out of your mouth on any subject if you can,
if you can look at me and say confidently that
men can become women and vice versa, or that men
can get pregnant, or that menstrual products belong in boys' bathrooms, again,
these things are absurd, and so we saw how it affected,
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of course the presidential election. But also I think important
to note these key Senate races people like I mean
we saw, I mean, compare the two Bob Casey versus
Dave McCormick, or someone even like Ted Cruz versus Colin Alred.
Colin Alred is of course as someone who in the
US House has voted many, many times in favor of
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putting men into women's sports. But standing there on the
debate stage, she says, word for word, Look, I'm a Christian,
I'm a father, I would never support these ridiculous ideas.
Trying desperately to recant from their positions. And notice how
Kamala Harris was never asked about her stance specifically on this,
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and it's because she knew. By design, they knew that
this is not a winning issue. Does it pull well
in their favor? Therefore they desperately and effectively honestly try
to run from their voting records.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Hey, Riley, do you think that what's going on right
now as the Democrats deal with all of their sadness
at the Trump the sweeping Trump victory is what we're
seeing a tactical retreat on the men and women's sports.
Girls playing against our boys playing against girls. Is it
a tactical retreat or is it a true rethink and
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possible repudiation of the trans agenda, which is effectively that
people can change gender.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Look, I don't think they believed it the entire time.
You really mean to tell me. Outlets like ESPN, for example,
or let's take the NCAA. These are outlets or entities
that cover men's sports in women's sports. You really mean
to tell me they believe that men can become women,
that there's no difference between a man getting on the
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softball field versus the baseball field, or a man teeing
off at a woman's team. No, of course they knew that,
so I don't think they believed it from the very
beginning of this whole thing. But now they're realizing, Okay,
society is starting to turn around, you know, whatever it is,
whether it's it's you know, driven by dollar signs initially,
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and now they're realizing, you know, maybe it's it is
kind of this fringe, absurd idea to go along with this,
to celebrate this, even like they've done. So. Look these
democrats that are coming out, I don't think they ever
believed it, actually know for a fact. I'll tell you
I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress in the
Senate many times. And when I testified before the Senate
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I had a Corey Booker come up to me before
and he said, look, you know, I played football at Stanford.
I could never imagine a girl on the field with me.
And that was before the testimony the hearing, and then
gets on the other side of the table and starts
grilling me and votes in favor of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So again, it sounds like Corey Booker, by the way,
just if you're wondering, nice, nice in the green room,
but not so nice when he's up grand standing in Congress.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Right exactly, I want to play this for you because
I know you saw this video and it goes to
what Buck just asked, will they run from this or
will they allow left wing activists to continue to dominate
the discussion? So on CNN guy says, Hey, we're trying
to have an autopsy of what happened in the election,
and uh, boys trying to play in girl sports. Just
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listen to this, Riley, and I want you to be
able to react to it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I think sure are.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
A lot of families out there who don't believe boys
should play girls sports.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm not going to listen to transphobe at the table
when boys.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I'm not gonna sit there because look, this is a
really heated issue, right And Sha Michael, I know you,
I know that you understand that people have different views
on this. I think, out of respect for Jay, like,
let's try.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
To Okay, let's cut it there out of respect for Jay,
you can't even say what you actually believe. You've been
hearing this for years, Riley, When you watch that video,
what was your reaction?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Well, I think it speaks more so to the problem,
even even maybe bigger than the actual concept of men
in women's sports. It's the whole idea of a grown
man telling another grown man how to speak. And again,
normal people are tired, they're tired of the policing of language.
Call it as you see it and never ever apologize.
(26:57):
And so I mean, listening to that, it's just the
old this form of pushing your ideology onto somebody demand.
They can't even speak against it in front of you.
I was hopeful that they had learned right like we
have addressed here. We saw people like Morning Joe come
out and say, you know, Democrats have handled this really stupidly.
Literally used that word. He said, eighty five percent of
(27:19):
Americans agree that men and women's sports is wrong, but
maybe they didn't learn. Listening to the rest of this panel,
watch a grown man have a full on temper tantrum
for how he addresses, I mean, accurately addresses a human being.
Calling them what they are is peak absurdity. It really is.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Craziness. Craziness.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, we'll have to see how the Democrats try to
deal with this issue going forward. I think that it
is really a symptom of a broader problem they have,
which is the orthodoxy. When the Democrat left Raleigh got
so powerful, so strong, that it became impossible for the
less crazy elements of the Democrat Party to control the
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full on true believers of the Democrat Party. And it's
not just on the transition. I think we saw this
on college campuses where there were kids who were, you know,
taking over buildings at Columba University and just throwing this
giant tantrum and threatening Jewish students because of.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was going on in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Like normal people don't think that's normal behavior or ethical behavior.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
No, no, And the irony of this is these college
students have no idea what they're even protesting. They have
no idea. It's the same rent a mob that shows
up to college campuses to protest me when I show
up and speak. They have no idea. But you're right,
I think the infiltration of it's virtually every realm, every
institution of our society. I don't believe even it's necessarily
(28:57):
the gender ideology movement that has captured our institutions. I
believe it's our institutions that have failed so miserable, miserably,
whether it's it's corporate America, we're seeing how that has
played out. We've seen that through Target and bud Light
and things like that. We've seen it, of course in
our educational realm. We've seen it within our media. We've
seen it within our government. We've seen it within the
(29:19):
healthcare profession, the medicalization side of things. How we have
doctors entire Even at the end of that clip, if
you were to keep playing that clip, at the end
of it, the guy says, look, don't don't listen to me,
just listen to the American Medical Association or the American
Psychiatric Association. We have entire what used to be considered
(29:42):
trustworthy institutions and entities and corporations and organizations that have
I mean said it's totally cool to chemically and surgically
castrate children. I mean, we will look back at this time.
I don't know how long from now, ten years, twenty years,
I hope not fifty years, but at some point we
(30:02):
will look back at this time and accurately call it
what it is, which, again, speaking to the medicalization stuff,
it's the biggest medical scandal this world has ever seen.
So you're right, it's every realm, even seemingly our spiritual leaders.
I've seen many videos of pastors coming out now and
condemning people saying, you know, they're going to hell if
(30:24):
they have voted for Donald Trump and they're quoting scripture,
and it's just we're seeing sheep in Wolve's clothing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
All of that being said, it was incredible to watch
Trump win. I know you felt very validated for the
arguments you've been making. And Riley, you just graduated from
college recently. How encouraging was it to you the number
of young men who just said we're over this and
showed up and voted for Trump in record numbers.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Honestly, I'll tell you it wasn't really surprising for me.
I think for a couple of reasons. One, young people
value free speech. Young people they're they're you're going off
to college for the first time, you're having to afford
an apartment or whatever it is. So so the economy
I believe was a big part in that. I think
young people too just kind of like to to go
(31:17):
against the status QLO. I mean, there's there's that value
in being rebellious, and I think it was seen as
voting for Donald Trump was the rebellious, anti establishment thing
to do, and I think that's largely part of Look,
he's got this iconic mugshot, he's being shot at, he's
being indicted, he's being I mean, they're trying to bankrupt him.
(31:37):
All of these things that were happening to him that
the Democrats were doing in an attempt to get him
to go away. Really, I think, especially in talking about
young people, it really only made him more relatable. More
of this this iconic figure that I believe mobilized people
to get to the polls, and not just men. I
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think a lot of well we've seen the numbers and
the shift and even young women compared to four years ago.
So again I think it was it was historic. I mean,
this is really kind of like a once in a
lifetime type of thing. I think, of course, this was
only my second election being able to vote, and this
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time compared to four years ago. I mean it just
the vibe shift is entirely there, especially among young people.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Riley Gaines, you can check out the podcast at OutKick,
among many other things she is doing to fight for
the right side of sanity. Riley, keep up the good work.
You were instrumental to this result. Thank you for everything
you did.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Well.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Thank you, guys, appreciate you always.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Thank you. That's Riley Gaines.
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Speaker 1 (33:49):
Great time to remind you all of the play in
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Speaker 2 (33:58):
You know, guys, I.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Don't know, a couple of prognosticators over here. A lot
of big calls. Yeah, you had Clay and Buck together
with the big calls, a lot of big calls.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
We we nailed them.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So I'm just saying, but we've also got some fantastic
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(34:30):
on the gambling markets and the likely future Senate Majority leader.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, this is a pretty seismic shift. And we started
off the show talking about Wednesday, we'll find out who
the next Senate Majority Leader is going to be. Rick
Scott in the gambling markets out of nowhere, he announced
the last week on Thursday, made his case on this show.
It's grown a lot since then. He is now favored
(34:57):
to be the next Senate majority leader in the gambling markets.
Now it's a small favorite, but a lot of people
thought that when he put his name in there was
no chance he was going to be the choice. Fifty
six percent of the money on Rick Scott, then John
Thune at thirty seven percent, John Cornyn seems to be
(35:18):
basically done again. That's going to be decided on Wednesday,
so really kind of intriguing to see how quickly Twitter
can shift public opinion in that realm. And a lot
of people not happy about Thun and Cornyn's past support
or lack thereof, of President Trump for a variety of
different issues. So we'll see if Trump decides to jump in.
(35:41):
It's still not a public ballot, but they're voting on Wednesday,
Buck And right now, Rick Scott has a lot of momentum,
I think, well, first of all, he joined this show
and told everybody while he should be set a majority leaders,
so you know, we're kind of feeling our stuff these days.
And I'm not saying that that was gained, but definitely
help you know, it was helpful as well. X and
(36:03):
Elon Musk and the fact that there can be the
voice of the bass and of the conservatives out there.
We can all talk to each other on X there's
not the shadow banning of the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's really helpful.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Also, Mara al lago elon Musk spending a lot of
time there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You see this reporting, Clay, I like to see this.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think Donald Trump being close and cozy with the
greatest entrepreneurial and tech mind of our era is very
good thing.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And when we come back tomorrow, some of you are asking,
is there any chance Biden resigns and allows Kamala Harris
to become the first woman president. Between now and Inauguration Day,
get your popcorn, because we are going to tee off
on MIT in a big way, among many other things tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Season
The third hour of Clay and Buck returns to you
right now, and man, I feel good, and indeed, Clay,
I knew that I would. With the Trump victory here,
it is fantastic. Feels like the country like a weight
has been lifted. The future is bright for all Americans,
even those who unfortunately voted for COMMLA. But that's okay,
(00:21):
It's going to be better for all Americans. Things might
get a little complicated for some illegals who have come
into the country and committed crimes in particular while they're here.
But for Americans, I think the future is very bright, indeed,
and we should talk about what that looks like, what
the mission is. I just want to go back to
this in case you weren't with us the first hour.
(00:42):
Some important stats here for the victory, as more numbers
are coming in. First off, we know we have a
Trump victory. We know we have a popular vote win
by Donald Trump. Seventy five million approximately votes for Donald Trum,
beating the seventy four million that he got In twenty twenty,
(01:03):
eighty percent of counties moved to the right nationwide, eighty
percent of counties overall became more Republican and you have
lots and lots of data to look at, and we'll
have more also on the different breakdowns demographics. Clay was
talking about how the youth vote much stronger for Trump
than a lot of people anticipated. And I do if
(01:25):
I made there was a moment in time in August
when Kamala Harris was all, Oh, my.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Gosh, Kamla Harrison is gonna win. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
There the media was running the playbook, Oh she's up
in all the swing states overnight, and oh and I Clay, Now,
this wasn't a bet.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This was just a prediction.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But I gotta say this was in August, in the
darkest moments for the Trump campaign, at least according to
the media. I don't think Trump campaign believed any of
this crap. But this was the prediction I made in
August of this year. Play twenty five. It's gonna be okay.
Trump's gonna win this thing, all right. I have I
have faith that he's gonna win, and he's gonna win solidly.
(02:06):
I think I'll tell you this it mark this prediction down.
I think he's gonna beat Kamala Harris by more than
he beat Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There you go. Who would have seen that coming? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Remember what we felt like in twenty sixteen. I think
he will beat Kamala Harris in the electoral College by
a wider margin.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Than he beat Hillary Clinton. I think that will actually
happen this time. You nailed me.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Where were you broadcasting from? It sounds like you were
on a submarine somewhere in like the North Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was in a freedom bunker in the woods somewhere
in August. You know, as one does, no worries about it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But I'm just saying, there, bigger electoral win for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You nailed that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When this reminds me of when you watch an old
highlight and you're like, why is the the did HD
not exist there?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Like? I don't know where that It does sound like
you were.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You were maybe on in the middle of the hunt
for Red October, like having to send up the con
to be able to reach everybody, but you were confident.
You did not waiver from the moment that Kamalo was
elevated on I believe July twenty first, if I remember correctly,
that Sunday, you never doubted. I got nervous about the time,
(03:19):
probably when you were when you were saying that. And look,
I mean the one thing I got right as we
got closer was Trump won the popular vote, and Buck,
I think that is making it almost impossible for Democrats
to know how to respond to this, because you know,
if he had won the electoral college, they'd be all
out there screaming about how we had to abolish the
(03:40):
electoral college. When you win the electoral college and the
popular vote, and you win by the biggest margin of
any Republican since nineteen eighty eight, the talking points aren't
there to be able to really attack Trump, like what
angled can you even go.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
After him on?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I have to say I think that some of the
legacy Democrat media was really hoping that it would at
least be close enough that there would be this case
to be made that they could, you know, they could stick.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
To everything that they did, and they did everything great.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The people who have come out and said that Kamala ran,
and there have been a number of them, a perfect campaign,
and she was a great candidate, and the Democrat message
was very powerful and strong. It's just racism and sexism
that stopped her from winning, are being laughed at, not
just by Republicans, they're actually being laughed at pretty broadly
by some powerful voices within the Democrat tent who have
(04:36):
just said, you know the things, you know, prioritizing transagenda,
illegal immigrants, the rights of criminals, these are things that people,
normal people don't react well to. And you need to
win a few percent of the country nationally that are
in that sort of normy vote, if you will. And
(04:57):
they didn't. And this is what happened. And I think
it's a pro found it should be a profound lesson
play Do you think they learned the lesson or do
you think they just they run the same playbook? They say,
Donald Trump just ran again. Why can't we just run
the same playbook next time? A lot of them are
not going to learn the lesson. I think the question
we will find out of whether they learn the lesson
or not will come in how the twenty twenty eight
(05:19):
Democrat presidential primary plays itself out. And let me explain
why I think that in twenty twenty Democrats lost their mind.
You can argue that Kamala Harris didn't lose the twenty
twenty four race. Actually, in the twenty twenty four race,
she lost it when she said she opposed fracking. She
lost it when she said she supported transgender surgery for
(05:41):
illegal immigrant inmates. She lost it when she tried to
ban plastic straw. She lost it when she said the
border wall was racist. All of those things were said
in twenty twenty, and then she did a poor job
as vice president. I'm curious to see buck when everybody
throws their hat in and they start running in twenty
twenty eight, will there be a Bill Clinton like figure
(06:05):
who I remember? Clinton rose from the ashes of the
Ronald Reagan double win, of the George HW. Bush win
and tried to run as a somewhat centrist Democrat, and
then he got over his skis in ninety two. By
ninety four, Republican revolution happens, and in ninety six he's
basically running as a Republican. If you go back and
(06:27):
remember that race, he tried to triangulate with Dick Morris
some intern issues. But will there be sanity because right
now what you're seeing is we played that clip from
CNN of that crazy left winger. The left wing is
still trying to police what Democrats can say. And as
long as the left wing is out there saying, you
(06:48):
can't say that that's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist, whatever
you want to say. You can't actually have honest conversations
in the Democrat Party in the public arena. These people
out there, deep down understand how crazy this is. Let
me give you another point on this buck.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
This transports issue, which we're going to talk about with
Riley Gains here in a bit. Do you know Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris neither one has still been asked
if they support boys who identify as girls being able
to play in girl sports. That has never been asked
of either person. Biden's been in office for almost four years,
not one question about it. Kamala got asked by Brett
(07:28):
Bayer about the illegal surgery for or transgender surgery for
illegal immigrants, but not about girl sports particularly. This is evidence,
I think of the media trying to protect them because
they know that it's an incredible weakness of the Democrat
Party and however they answer it, they're going to get attacked.
(07:49):
I've said, it's still crazy to me that Biden never
has had to answer this question, and it's the number
one question that I would ask if I were sitting
down talking to Kamala or Biden, because to me it
goes to the essence of this.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I also have a question that I would want to
ask Clay what happened to the ten million voters? Jim Jordan,
our friend in Congress, friend of the show good Man,
he asked this question on CNN State of the Union,
and this has cut eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
There are false claims about election fraud when Donald Trump lost.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
This time Donald Trump won, and you think the election
was free and fair.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You see, there's a little bit of a no.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I think the Democrats got to ask why did we
go from getting eighty one million to getting seventy million?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
What happened to those ten million people?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I think it's because they had no vision, no record
to run on, and they just wanted to call everyone names.
Turns out when you turns out you when you tell people, oh,
your fascist, racist, deplorable garbage, they don't like that. And
then when you use lawfair to go after their candidate,
they don't like that either.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Now he's just saying on the messaging front, they you know,
they lost ten million votes and should have some soul searching.
That's a lot of votes to lose, even for a
really bad care I'm just putting that out there. I'm
not convinced it's just Kamala was a bad candidate. Remember
when sag your name wrong was They got so huffy
about it, the media like, oh, dare you know?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Trump would be.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like Kamala Kamala and they would just flip out about it.
You know, they should have focused on some more important things.
This is also evidence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It raises the question I thought Eric Schmidt said this
well in the second hour the program, Missouri Senator. I
don't see it as being partisan at all that you
should have to get your votes counted in twenty four hours.
Twenty four hours seems like a really broad arena to
figure out how votes went California as I speak to
you right now, according to the New York Times, Buck
(09:43):
has still only counted seventy two percent of the votes
that were cast. It's been six days. The reason why
we don't officially have a winner of the House yet
is because we have normalized week long.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Plus counting expeditions.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And I will just point out, by the grace of
Donald Trump's landslide, are we not all sitting around waiting
to see what's going to happen in Arizona and Nevada
to be able to pick a president. Trump already had
the majority on election night, thankfully, but Nevada and Arizona
are still counting. Do any of you feel like we
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would get a reliable count a week after the election
actually took place.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It can't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The longer the counting takes, the less confidence anyone has Republican, Democrat,
Independent in the actual tally. And in fact, the one
race that's still significant where the counting is still going
on and they're trying to extend it is in Pennsylvania,
where they're trying to take away Dave McCormick from his win.
Now he's got a forty thousand vote lead. The AP
(10:46):
has called it. He's going to be the Senator from Pennsylvania.
But all the people out there who told you have
to respect democracy and you can't deny elections, as soon
as they have the tinest, tiniest scintilla of an opportunity
to aallenge elections, guess what they do. They challenge elections.
And I bet buck there will be a bunch of
members of the Democrat House and a bunch of Democrat
(11:09):
senators who are going to claim, by the time certification
happens that Trump didn't actually win and they have issues
with the way the count happen happened. I guarantee you
some members of the House and the Senate who are
Democrats are going to deny Trump's election in January.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
They have been though, they've been flabbergasted by this the
fun word to say.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They've been flabbergasted.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They've been slapped down in a way that they absolutely
were not expecting. You know, I was asked, Clay I
gave a speech over the weekend down here Miami Beach
at a conference, and I was asked, when are the
riots going to happen?
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Do I think there'll be some Antifa lunatics and stuff
in DC when Trump gets an argue? You know, probably
there's people that, Yeah, those people are just they're losers.
I mean, it's sad, you know they think that running
around dressed all in black.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And be like we're fighting fascism.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You know, it's very sad. Lot of purple hair in
that crew. By the way, so you notice we don't
say blue hair anymore because some of you thought we
were talking about old people. Know, we mean people that
dye their hair like unnatural colors of you know, fusia
or you know, like electric pink or something. Okay, there's
a lot of that going on with the anti foot crowd.
I would say there's not going to be any real
(12:20):
movement toward the riots that a lot of us were expecting, though,
just because they got beat so badly that they can't
even I'm gonna do a little sports clay.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You ready for this?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
You have this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
If you lose by four touchdowns and you complain about
the refs, you just get made fun of. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, If you lose by a field goal and you
say that one of those yellow flags got thrown for
the penalty or things, then maybe you have a case, right,
But if you lose by four touchdowns, you just look
like a cry baby.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And Democrats kind of lost by three or four touchdowns here.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They lost by three or four touchdowns. I also think
to your point, they acknowledge the Hitler thing is so
such July Biden is having lunch with Trump in the
White House on Wednesday. Would you ever have lunch in
the White House with Hitler? I mean they just abandoned
it as soon.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
As they lost. I mean honestly, Yeah, think about.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It's quite a philosophy question.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I mean, if Hitler was like inviting you over before
all the really bad stuff happened for lunch.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like, I mean, are you gonna sit with Hitler and
be like, Hey, would you like scrambled?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Would you like eggs over easy? Hey? Maybe some avocado toast? No,
it was all a lie.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They went from Trump is Hitler to hey, We're gonna
have lunch together in one day.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So I'm just gonna say I think Trump should come out.
And I've gotten some of you disagree with me in this.
That's fine. I like a little disagreement, you know what
I mean, I'm gonna Thanksgiving in the Sexten household just
turns into you know, who is the most right wing
at the table out of the time, So we even
fight even though we agree on stuff. Clay, I would say,
I think Trump should broach the topic of pardoning Hunter
(13:59):
because it gives it creates a tone, It creates a
political win for him, a little political capital of being
a reasonable guy, being you know, being a night just
like he was with Hillary. Didn't go after Hillary, after
his after his women twenty sixteen. I think Biden's going
to pardon Biden. You know, Hunter will pardon I'm sorry,
(14:19):
Hunter will pardon. Joe will pardon Hunter anyway, But why
not just say I just you know, if if Joe
doesn't want to do it, I'll do it. If he
doesn't want to, like Sully his hands with pardoning his
own son as a new president, I would do it
because I don't think Joe would wait for that. But
I think it gets ahead of it in a way
where there's nothing but upside for him.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
A part of me thinks Joe Biden might pardon Trump
while also pardoning Hunter.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It would be if, first of all, I think him
pardoning Trump create a lot of upside for him in
the legacy department. He would have won, and he would
have been the magnanimous elder statesman grossly shoved his side
by nefarious forces within the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I found.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was gonna say, if I'm the curator of the
Biden museum, like this is a good thing, think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Book Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It doesn't change the fact that Biden will have gone
after him and been totally the head of a Department
of Justice running rough shot over his political opponents. But
in the history books, when people don't go into the
specific so understanding everything, it might be seen as an
important olid branch. It also would allow him to then
(15:35):
pardon Hunter and not create the same storm of attention.
You made that call a long time ago, and you
may end up being read in it, and that would
be that would be quite a that would be a
distant you know, quite a distant prediction. I hit right
on the mic H. D. Vans and thank you very
much in that sort of vein of a long, long
way out prediction. I just say this, Clay, I also
(15:57):
want Trump to and the incoming administration to just do
what they can to calm down the lunatics, because if
they really move forward on these deportations, stuff is going
to get.
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Welcome back into Clay and Book.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Riley Gains is with us now of OutKick and she
was a top swimmer as you will call and swim
against the guy who swam then as a girl.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Riley, appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
The ad that everybody has been talking about post election results.
So I think after people have seen what really resonated
and what the numbers were, right now the data are
in and the ad was she's he meaning Trump is
for you, she meaning Kama is for they them. Why
(19:35):
was that the single most effective ad of the entire
multi billion dollar political cycle.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I mean, first of all, it's great to be on
with you. Look that was as effective as it was because,
I mean say it again out loud, he is for you,
she is for the them. Can you imagine our founding
fathers hearing that. I mean, they wouldn't even understand what
that means. They wouldn't even be able to grasp the
concept of what is being said. But that's the reality
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of where we are as a nation. Now, I mean,
it's seemingly that we have an entire political party that has,
at least in terms of elected representation and how our
media represents this issue, that has I mean embraced this
gender ideology movement wholeheartedly. You've got the whole pronoun thing
(20:26):
like we've just stated, but also calling Latino voters or
Latino individuals latin x. I mean, this just doesn't resonate
with your everyday common sense person. It shows how out
of touch with reality the Democratic Party has become and
would certainly continue being if we were to have to
(20:46):
live through a Harris Walt administration.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Riley, good to hear from you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was with you on election night six days ago,
and as the results are coming in, I told you,
I think this election might have been different if Leah
Thomas does not swim against you, and if the absurdity
of that wasn't crystallized not only with the event itself,
but with you speaking out against it. It happened in Georgia,
(21:15):
which is a swing state, Riley, you had to swim
against Leah, who was from Pennsylvania, which is certainly a
swing state. Sometimes it takes a little while for arguments
to crystallize. Do you think that incident was potentially dispositive
and who ended up winning this race?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
You know what, no doubt I do. Actually, it just
really expedited similar to COVID. Honestly, it expedited this this
which showed us which leaders were willing to, I mean
emphatically say that men can become women. And again, when
you do that, your credibility has just been compromised on
(21:57):
every single topic. Why would I believe a word that
comes out of your mouth on any subject if you can,
if you can look at me and say confidently that
men can become women and vice versa, or that men
can get pregnant, or that menstrual products belong in boys' bathrooms, again,
these things are absurd, and so we saw how it affected,
(22:17):
of course the presidential election. But also I think important
to note these key Senate races people like I mean
we saw, I mean, compare the two Bob Casey versus
Dave McCormick, or someone even like Ted Cruz versus Colin Alred.
Colin Alred is of course as someone who in the
US House has voted many, many times in favor of
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putting men into women's sports. But standing there on the
debate stage, she says, word for word, Look, I'm a Christian,
I'm a father, I would never support these ridiculous ideas.
Trying desperately to recant from their positions. And notice how
Kamala Harris was never asked about her stance specifically on this,
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and it's because she knew. By design, they knew that
this is not a winning issue. Does it pull well
in their favor? Therefore they desperately and effectively honestly try
to run from their voting records.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Hey, Riley, do you think that what's going on right
now as the Democrats deal with all of their sadness
at the Trump the sweeping Trump victory is what we're
seeing a tactical retreat on the men and women's sports.
Girls playing against our boys playing against girls. Is it
a tactical retreat or is it a true rethink and
(23:33):
possible repudiation of the trans agenda, which is effectively that
people can change gender.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Look, I don't think they believed it the entire time.
You really mean to tell me. Outlets like ESPN, for example,
or let's take the NCAA. These are outlets or entities
that cover men's sports in women's sports. You really mean
to tell me they believe that men can become women,
that there's no difference between a man getting on the
(24:05):
softball field versus the baseball field, or a man teeing
off at a woman's team. No, of course they knew that,
so I don't think they believed it from the very
beginning of this whole thing. But now they're realizing, Okay,
society is starting to turn around, you know, whatever it is,
whether it's it's you know, driven by dollar signs initially,
(24:25):
and now they're realizing, you know, maybe it's it is
kind of this fringe, absurd idea to go along with this,
to celebrate this, even like they've done. So. Look these
democrats that are coming out, I don't think they ever
believed it, actually know for a fact. I'll tell you
I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress in the
Senate many times. And when I testified before the Senate
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I had a Corey Booker come up to me before
and he said, look, you know, I played football at Stanford.
I could never imagine a girl on the field with me.
And that was before the testimony the hearing, and then
gets on the other side of the table and starts
grilling me and votes in favor of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So again, it sounds like Corey Booker, by the way,
just if you're wondering, nice, nice in the green room,
but not so nice when he's up grand standing in Congress.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Right exactly, I want to play this for you because
I know you saw this video and it goes to
what Buck just asked, will they run from this or
will they allow left wing activists to continue to dominate
the discussion? So on CNN guy says, Hey, we're trying
to have an autopsy of what happened in the election,
and uh, boys trying to play in girl sports. Just
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listen to this, Riley, and I want you to be
able to react to it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I think sure are.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
A lot of families out there who don't believe boys
should play girls sports.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm not going to listen to transphobe at the table
when boys.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I'm not gonna sit there because look, this is a
really heated issue, right And Sha Michael, I know you,
I know that you understand that people have different views
on this. I think, out of respect for Jay, like,
let's try.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
To Okay, let's cut it there out of respect for Jay,
you can't even say what you actually believe. You've been
hearing this for years, Riley, When you watch that video,
what was your reaction?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Well, I think it speaks more so to the problem,
even even maybe bigger than the actual concept of men
in women's sports. It's the whole idea of a grown
man telling another grown man how to speak. And again,
normal people are tired, they're tired of the policing of language.
Call it as you see it and never ever apologize.
(26:57):
And so I mean, listening to that, it's just the
old this form of pushing your ideology onto somebody demand.
They can't even speak against it in front of you.
I was hopeful that they had learned right like we
have addressed here. We saw people like Morning Joe come
out and say, you know, Democrats have handled this really stupidly.
Literally used that word. He said, eighty five percent of
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Americans agree that men and women's sports is wrong, but
maybe they didn't learn. Listening to the rest of this panel,
watch a grown man have a full on temper tantrum
for how he addresses, I mean, accurately addresses a human being.
Calling them what they are is peak absurdity. It really is.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Craziness. Craziness.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, we'll have to see how the Democrats try to
deal with this issue going forward. I think that it
is really a symptom of a broader problem they have,
which is the orthodoxy. When the Democrat left Raleigh got
so powerful, so strong, that it became impossible for the
less crazy elements of the Democrat Party to control the
(28:08):
full on true believers of the Democrat Party. And it's
not just on the transition. I think we saw this
on college campuses where there were kids who were, you know,
taking over buildings at Columba University and just throwing this
giant tantrum and threatening Jewish students because of.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was going on in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Like normal people don't think that's normal behavior or ethical behavior.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
No, no, And the irony of this is these college
students have no idea what they're even protesting. They have
no idea. It's the same rent a mob that shows
up to college campuses to protest me when I show
up and speak. They have no idea. But you're right,
I think the infiltration of it's virtually every realm, every
institution of our society. I don't believe even it's necessarily
(28:57):
the gender ideology movement that has captured our institutions. I
believe it's our institutions that have failed so miserable, miserably,
whether it's it's corporate America, we're seeing how that has
played out. We've seen that through Target and bud Light
and things like that. We've seen it, of course in
our educational realm. We've seen it within our media. We've
seen it within our government. We've seen it within the
(29:19):
healthcare profession, the medicalization side of things. How we have
doctors entire Even at the end of that clip, if
you were to keep playing that clip, at the end
of it, the guy says, look, don't don't listen to me,
just listen to the American Medical Association or the American
Psychiatric Association. We have entire what used to be considered
(29:42):
trustworthy institutions and entities and corporations and organizations that have
I mean said it's totally cool to chemically and surgically
castrate children. I mean, we will look back at this time.
I don't know how long from now, ten years, twenty years,
I hope not fifty years, but at some point we
(30:02):
will look back at this time and accurately call it
what it is, which, again, speaking to the medicalization stuff,
it's the biggest medical scandal this world has ever seen.
So you're right, it's every realm, even seemingly our spiritual leaders.
I've seen many videos of pastors coming out now and
condemning people saying, you know, they're going to hell if
(30:24):
they have voted for Donald Trump and they're quoting scripture,
and it's just we're seeing sheep in Wolve's clothing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
All of that being said, it was incredible to watch
Trump win. I know you felt very validated for the
arguments you've been making. And Riley, you just graduated from
college recently. How encouraging was it to you the number
of young men who just said we're over this and
showed up and voted for Trump in record numbers.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Honestly, I'll tell you it wasn't really surprising for me.
I think for a couple of reasons. One, young people
value free speech. Young people they're they're you're going off
to college for the first time, you're having to afford
an apartment or whatever it is. So so the economy
I believe was a big part in that. I think
young people too just kind of like to to go
(31:17):
against the status QLO. I mean, there's there's that value
in being rebellious, and I think it was seen as
voting for Donald Trump was the rebellious, anti establishment thing
to do, and I think that's largely part of Look,
he's got this iconic mugshot, he's being shot at, he's
being indicted, he's being I mean, they're trying to bankrupt him.
(31:37):
All of these things that were happening to him that
the Democrats were doing in an attempt to get him
to go away. Really, I think, especially in talking about
young people, it really only made him more relatable. More
of this this iconic figure that I believe mobilized people
to get to the polls, and not just men. I
(31:59):
think a lot of well we've seen the numbers and
the shift and even young women compared to four years ago.
So again I think it was it was historic. I mean,
this is really kind of like a once in a
lifetime type of thing. I think, of course, this was
only my second election being able to vote, and this
(32:19):
time compared to four years ago. I mean it just
the vibe shift is entirely there, especially among young people.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Riley Gaines, you can check out the podcast at OutKick,
among many other things she is doing to fight for
the right side of sanity. Riley, keep up the good work.
You were instrumental to this result. Thank you for everything
you did.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Well.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Thank you, guys, appreciate you always.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Thank you. That's Riley Gaines.
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Don't know, a couple of prognosticators over here. A lot
of big calls. Yeah, you had Clay and Buck together
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to Clay. You've got an interesting update for us here
(34:30):
on the gambling markets and the likely future Senate Majority leader.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, this is a pretty seismic shift. And we started
off the show talking about Wednesday, we'll find out who
the next Senate Majority Leader is going to be. Rick
Scott in the gambling markets out of nowhere, he announced
the last week on Thursday, made his case on this show.
It's grown a lot since then. He is now favored
(34:57):
to be the next Senate majority leader in the gambling markets.
Now it's a small favorite, but a lot of people
thought that when he put his name in there was
no chance he was going to be the choice. Fifty
six percent of the money on Rick Scott, then John
Thune at thirty seven percent, John Cornyn seems to be
(35:18):
basically done again. That's going to be decided on Wednesday,
so really kind of intriguing to see how quickly Twitter
can shift public opinion in that realm. And a lot
of people not happy about Thun and Cornyn's past support
or lack thereof, of President Trump for a variety of
different issues. So we'll see if Trump decides to jump in.
(35:41):
It's still not a public ballot, but they're voting on Wednesday,
Buck And right now, Rick Scott has a lot of momentum,
I think, well, first of all, he joined this show
and told everybody while he should be set a majority leaders,
so you know, we're kind of feeling our stuff these days.
And I'm not saying that that was gained, but definitely
help you know, it was helpful as well. X and
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Elon Musk and the fact that there can be the
voice of the bass and of the conservatives out there.
We can all talk to each other on X there's
not the shadow banning of the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's really helpful.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Also, Mara al lago elon Musk spending a lot of
time there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You see this reporting, Clay, I like to see this.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think Donald Trump being close and cozy with the
greatest entrepreneurial and tech mind of our era is very
good thing.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And when we come back tomorrow, some of you are asking,
is there any chance Biden resigns and allows Kamala Harris
to become the first woman president. Between now and Inauguration Day,
get your popcorn, because we are going to tee off
on MIT in a big way, among many other things tomorrow.
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