August 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Sean Parnell, combat vet and host of “Battleground Live” on the C&B Podcast Network, talks about Tim Walz abruptly quitting the Army National Guard right before his unit was deployed to Iraq, the race in PA and even the Steelers QB controversy. JD Vance walks over to Harris plane on tarmac, speaks to her press corps because she won't do it and he tells them he thought they might be “lonely.” Clay's 20th wedding anniversary.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now. Thanks for
being here with us, our friend Sean Parnell joins. He's
a combat veteran New York Times bestselling author of Outwall Platoon.
He also hosts Battleground Live on the Clay and Buck
podcast Network. He's a fantastic host. Check out that show,
subscribe to Clay and Buck podcast Network, and then listen
(00:20):
to the Sean Parnell Show. Sean, great to have you,
my friend. Good to talk to you again. As always, Buck,
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Great to be here. Thank you and Clay for having
me as well.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So let's start with the big item today, Sean, that
I think you could really shed some light on. There's
a lot of criticism and it's coming to me as
well as a lot of other people, but coming to
me from veterans specifically, who are saying this guy Walls
wants to tell us all that you know, he served
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and we should all kind of bow down to his
veteran status. And it's all great and it's amazing, But
when it came time, after many years being a sergeant
major to go to a rock, he chose not to go.
Can you break this down? Firs As somebody who was
over there, was in combat and served his country at
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that level. What do you make of what we know
about Governor Walls and his service at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Buck, It's it's cowardice, plain and simple. And let me
give you a sense of how eighteen year old privates,
which by the way, very very different from a command
sergeant major. Command sergeant major is the highest enlisted rank
in the United States Military. Command Sergeants major are the
heart and soul of any unit. They're the door kickers.
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They teach, they coach, they mentor they train units. And
Walls probably had eight hundred plus soldiers at a minimum
beneath him. But my soldiers, my privates in combat and again,
I was in combat for four hundred and eighty five
days in Afghanistan. Let an infantry PLATOONA at the height
of the hunter for beIN lot. I watched my soldiers
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do extraordinary things in combat because they were afraid of
letting each other down. I watched my medic, his name
is Doc Pantoha, get shot in the face and then
treat twelve casualties without ever once taking care of himself,
three of which would have died without his help. I
watched a kid in my platoon named Canton Wynn gets
shot in the head. He was ebac to Germany developed
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the blood clot When the docs tried to send him home,
he said, no, keep me here in Germany because when
I heal up, I want to get back to my soldiers.
All of that buck was because they didn't want to
let their brothers down next to them in the trenches.
And keep in mind, the job that most of these
kids had before joining the United States Military was high
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school shortstop, and so everything that we do in the
military is geared towards not letting your brothers and sisters down.
And that obligation is far greater if you're a leader,
whether you're a non commissioned officer and enlisted leader in
the United States Military or an officer. You know, when
I was in ranger school, like probably the most difficult
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school at the United States leadership school that the Army
has to offer. I mean, it was constantly about starving you,
keeping you awake, you know, marching twenty miles a day,
putting you in very very high pressure leadership situations where
they turn to you and say, make a decision, you know,
make a decision ranger, Lead what are you gonna do?
And I'll never forget in combat, trapped in a kill
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zone with my radio telephone operator looking at me these big,
bright blue eyes and he's you know, we're surrounded, outmanned,
out gunned, shot shooting at us from all different directions.
He's looking at me and reverberating on my mind or
make a decision?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Lead right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And so Walls has an obligation as a command sergeant major,
the senior enlisted member in his batown, in his unit,
to when they get orders to go to combat, to
go to Iraq. It's his job to lead. It's his
job to lead from the front, to set the example.
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Run to the sound of gunfire, not away, but in
those critical moments when all of his soldiers eight hundred
plus at a minimum, by the way, buck eight hundred
plus looking at him, bright eyed, bushy tailed, and probably
a little bit afraid that they're going into the fray,
he tucked tails and he runs at that critical moment.
I mean what like it basically says to these kids
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who are going into i Raq and don't know whether
or not they're going to come home alive, Hey, good luck,
hope you survive. I'm out of here. I'm retiring. It's
it's just gutting bucks. It's hard to describe the level
of cowardice that it takes for a leader in the
United States military, especially one that served for twenty four years.
They tried out this twenty four years thing, like it's
(04:57):
something about, oh, let's look how long he's served. He
should know better after two years, twenty four years, it's
just dereliction of duty of the highest order, of the
highest order.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Sean I Buck and I talked about this because I
saw you tweeting about it as soon as this story started,
and I said, I want to bring on Sean because
I don't even feel that comfortable analyzing it because frankly,
I never served, so a lot of people I think
out there here, oh twenty four years, and they automatically think, hey,
this is a valorous guy. But I think your perspective
(05:32):
is so important. How many people do you think that
have served in combat zones when they hear this about
Tim Walls have the exact same reaction that you do.
In other words, how commonplace do you think your opinion
is among those who have actually put their lives on
the line.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Overseas or elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Everyone Clay, every single person that served overseas, probably looks
at this decision with disdain because the reality is is
that when you get to go to combat, to go
to war, regardless of where it is, you sacrifice a
lot to do that. And you know, you sacrifice time
with your family. If you have kids, you sacrifice time
with your children. The truth is, nobody wants to go,
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but you sattle up and you go anyway because it's
your duty, and you have a duty, an obligation to
the man and woman in the trenches next to you.
And if you have if you're a leader, that obligation
is even greater because you know you have an obligation
to lead from the front, to go to where the
fire is heaviest, right to where you can have the
biggest impact on the battlefield. And not only that, you
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know that every decision that you make could forever alter
the trajectory of your soldiers, and god forbid, if you
make a bad one, one of them goes home in
a body bag. And by the way, what I'm talking
about is I'm not the exception to this, I'm the rule.
This is the situation that America's sons and daughters and
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find themselves in whether they're an enlisted leader or an officer,
when they raise their right hand and volunteer to serve
in the military. Clay, So anyone that has shouldered that
awesome responsibility of leading America's sons and daughters. Nobody wants
to go to combat, but you saddle up and you
go anyway because it's your duty. And for him to
talk tail and run and then try to make the
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case that he should be the vice president of the
United States a heartbeat away from the presidency while simultaneously
calling Donald Trump and jd Vance weird, it's just beyond
It's just beyond comprehension.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Sean really appreciate that that perspective. We needed to hear
that a lot. You know, we have so many veterans,
we have so many active duty that listen to this show,
and so to bring in somebody who who has really
been out there and understands these decisions, I think it's
just necessary perspective. I also want to bring in your
perspective as a native son of Pennsylvania, a Pittsburg area
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guy who has run for Congress and knows the political battlefield.
You're talking about the battlefield of Afghanistan or Rockyfort, but
now in the political battlefield quite a bit different. They
didn't go with the governor of your state, Shapiro. How
do you now assess Trump the Kamala in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, first of all, let me just say, as someone
who's run for office twice in Pennsylvania, I gotta tell you,
Clay Buck, I'm very glad that they did not pick
Josh Shapiro because Josh Shapiro fakes a good game, he
fakes being a moderate and of course we all understand
there's no such thing as a moderate Democrat. But he's
in the most important swing state in the nation. I
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contend that Pennsylvania is the swing state because if you
win Pennsylvania Democrat or Republican, it's far more likely that
you win Michigan. It's far more likely that you win Wisconsin.
And so to not pick Josh Shapiro because of the
pro Hamas base pro Hamas base of their party, when
Shapia zero has sixty percent favorability and just won an
election here in Pennsylvania just a couple of years ago,
(09:05):
I'm telling you it's mind blowingly stupid decision because vice
presidential candidates, while they don't always carry their home state
and a presidential cycle, oftentimes this is empirically validated over time.
They're good for a one point eight percent bump in
their home state. And guess what one point eight percent
in Pennsylvania could make all the difference. So I am
glad that Kamala picked Walls because right now, between Harris
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and Walls, we have what I believe to be the
most radical top of the ticket in the history of
our country. And I don't think that's hyperbole, and that's
not going to play well in Pennsylvania, where you have
over one point two million independents that are trying to
assess where they want to go with their lives. And
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I think when they go into that election booth clay
Buck and they pull that lever, it's going to be
a very simple calculation for them. What life was like
under Trump, you know, food gas affordable four oh one
k going up, and what life is like under Biden
and who Kamala Harris is connected to life is a
heck of a lot harder now. And when you're trying
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to make the case to independence, you know, Blue Staters
like somebody from Minnesota like Walls, somebody from California like Harris.
They struggle mightily to talk to those centrists that are
critically important to win. So I think it bodes well
for Trump and JD in Pennsylvania that they've got this
crazy radical Walls on the ticket.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, you're a you're a Philly, you're a Pittsburgh guy.
I got an important question for you. To close out
everything you covered. You covered what you seemed to be
Tim Wallas's cowardice. You just broke down how Pennsylvania is
gonna go uh in the election. This is the question
that people in Pittsburgh care about the most. Who's going
to be the quarterback this year? And how's he gonna do?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know, I look this, I'll tell you what Russell
Wilson hurting his calf. I mean, there's always a quarterback
controversy in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But I would tell you this.
I would be remiss to weigh in on that topic
now because.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
The way hold on, hold on this is this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You'll give You'll give an opinion on Tim Walls's service record,
on Kamala Harris's choice of vice president not even blink,
just fire full speed. I ask you to break down
the Steelers quarterback situation. You are a die hard Steelers
fan and you're like, I just I don't know that
I can weigh in on this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't listen, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You combat four and fifty days taking bullets from meers
trying to kill you for over a year, and you
won't tell me who the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Look, look, Steelers fans are vicious. Okay, they're passionate. They're
the best traveling fans a football. I'll tell you this.
Justin Field's throwing dimes in training camp. I've been watching
very optimistic about that. He's got some longevity, He's got
legs underneath him, which is good for the Pittsburgh offense.
But hey, Russell Wilson, veteran quarterback, is good under pressure
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in those critical moments, especially if you make it to
the playoffs. And I'm hoping, fingers crossed that the Steelers
make it to the playoffs, and so you know, we'll
see where the car.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The most pressing questions in the world put him on
the spot for who's going to be Steelers quarterback?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And he gets right on the fence.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But this.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Is amazing. He's you know, the network trying to ambush
him for eighteen months, like, yeah no, but what's the
depth chart of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Clay. I don't want
to get myself into too much stress and trouble here.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So, by the way, Sean, as we go to break,
I told I told you, I told Buck. We got
to meet in person at the event we just did
last week. You and your wife fantastic. We're happy to
have you as a part of the podcast network despite
your cowardice on picking a Steelers quarterback. I would encourage
everybody out there to go listen to Sean Parnell's podcast.
I guarantee you're going to love it. And we appreciate
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the time today.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Buck, take care guys. Yeah, great to
see you man. That is fabulous. Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
There you go, guys, fearless, answering every question under the sun.
You ask him who the quarterback of his favorite team
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I have ah, I don't know, five am, wake up
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probably on Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
You'll have the show solo, and then next week my
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with your friends and family. So Shelby Talcott, who is
a writer at Semaphore, also, by the way, happens to
be the fiance of one of our writers at OutKick.
Shelby is fantastic. I saw her up in Milwaukee, said
she shared a video that I have retweeted and that
we will share on Clay and Buck. She said, just
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landed in Wisconsin. Jd Vance and Kamala Harris's plane are
both here on the tarmac. He appears to be walking over.
Jd Vance did in fact walk over to Camma Harris's plane,
and he said, I just wanted to check out my
future plane, he said, which is a great line because
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Kamala is riding around in the VP plane. Said he
wasn't able to speak to Harris, but said he wanted
to go say hello to the vice president and ask
her why is she refusing to answer everyone's questions. This
is interesting, Oh Claire, I believe it is how you
would pronounced it, Oh Claire, Wisconsin. Hopefully it's going to
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be my plane in a few months. I also thought
you guys may get lonely because the Vice president doesn't
answer questions from reporters. He said that to her press
gaggle that is not getting any questions or access to
Kamala Harris. I think that's smart. Buck may require the
press to actually recognize, Hey, Kamala is hiding, which is
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what she is doing.
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Urgent Message dot com. I really like this jd Vance
move that Clay was just telling you about. I watched
the video in our little station break there and Jane
is walking up to the press corps assigned to Vice
President Harris. She has reporters who travel with her. She
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says nothing to them. Think about that for a moment.
Your job supposedly, I mean, their job in their minds
is to help Democrats get elected and stay in power.
But put that aside. Theoretically, their job is supposed to
be bringing the truth to the American people by asking
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questions that need to be asked by a person in
power or of a person in power. And they won't
do that, And you have to wonder what the heck
is going on here? And you could tell the reporters
are somewhat dumbfounded because they they're being exposed in that
moment too, because they're part of the Harris propaganda effort.
Because if any of them word to speak out, and
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they all could, they could be on I'll be watching
Morning Joe tomorrow. They could be on MSNBC. They could
be tweeting, they could be making noise about, hey, I'm
on Vice President Harris's press pool, and she doesn't talk
to us and has it in seventeen she hasn't talked
to them since she became the presidential nominee for the Democrats.
Think about that. It's not just seventeen days. It's seventeen
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days since she said I should have the most important
job in the world, and they just gave it to her.
Basically they decided there was no election or anything. Doesn't
feel the need to answer any questions. It just goes
to show you however much contempt people have for the
standard journalists supposed ethics, impartiality, what they it's not enough.
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You do not have enough contempt for these journals.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So two things. One for people out there who don't
know behind the scenes, they give a print out of
every speech that Kamala Harris is giving to the journalist
in advance of her giving that speech, which she is
reading directly off the teleprompter, so it's not as if
they have to go and see what she's going to say.
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They get everything that she said handed directly to them
in advance of her speech. So they are in this
position not creating any actual news. They are legitimately the
stenographer of Kamala Harris because they just write down whatever
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she said and basically just cut and paste from her
speech into their articles about her speech. So that's point
one point two. I wish there was a camera on
Kamala Harris. When Jade Vance started to walk across the
tarmac towards her plane and her staff, I bet that
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this was an ultimate VIEP moment where they started panicking, Oh,
my goodness, here comes Jade Vance. What are we gonna do?
What are we gonna say? Like pull up the stairs,
Let's make sure that we don't have any interaction at all.
But I would love to have the camera. You know,
they're staging all these ridiculous like did you see the
Tim Waltz call where it's like, oh, hey, I just
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happened to pick up my phone. Here with eight different
cameras shooting me talking to you. This is a totally
normal conversation. You've seen these things like the Baraka Michelle
Obama endorsement. They try to pretend like, oh, here's Kamala,
totally authentic. Let's watch her talk on our phone, and
then we'll also have a camera crew set up at
Tim Waltz's house and we'll also get his other side.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I mean, it's so fake. You know how you thought,
sadly correctly, that Joe Biden dementia. House of Cards would
fall apart, right, and I thought they may be able
to keep as we know, I thought they may be
able to just ignore and ignore it. And they got
really far. It was close, but you thought. I'm telling you, man,
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I really believe Kamala House of Cards there. It's gonna
be a few weeks, but this thing, there's going to
be a moment where everyone goes, oh my god, this
is the woman who Democrats And don't ever forget this.
Democrats had been had been criticizing for four years for
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being useless to Joe Biden and a drag on his
presidential aspirations. Okay, that was objective reality, that was what
was really going on. And now because they are desperate
and they are ruthless and they are power mad, the
Democrats are just pretending that. You know, it's like they've
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gone from prosecution to defense. They're on the other team.
It doesn't matter. Yes, that is accurate.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And remember they wanted to replace her as the least
popular vice president ever and now they are telling you,
oh my goodness, She's run a flawless presidential campaign for
seventeen days and she still hasn't spoken to any of them.
And so I appreciate here's an idea for you, buck.
What if just tossing it out there, what if instead
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of scheduling their own jd Vance events, they just copied
everywhere that Kamala went and jd Vance landed at every
airport that she does and kept saying, Hey, when are
you going to talk to the media, When are you
going to start talking to the media, thereby forcing the
media to cover the fact that she doesn't talk to
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the media. They can't ignore it if he's showing up
there and doing press conferences outside of her airport.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I actually airplane.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I actually think it could be brilliant calling it like
he can stand and do a press conference with her
airplane in the background and say, I'll answer any question
you guys have on any topic under the sun. Kamala
still won't answer any questions for any of you. I'm
here to talk to you because she won't talk to you.
She's making you worthless. You're her stenographers. I could actually
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be really good, sort.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Of like the COVID case counter that remember they were
trying to freak everybody out, and then they did the
death counter of how many people died from COVID and
we know that number was wildly exaggerated, but anyway, he
should do a Hey, everybody, great to do this, jd
vance press commerce with you. It has been you know,
twenty days, it has been twenty two days, it has
been you know, keep going since Kamala Harris became the
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nominee and she hasn't answered a single question from the
press corps. Like I think, yeah, because I'm their only hope.
It's this is a little bit like the game plan
they were running for Biden. With Biden, it was we
just have to hide the fact that he has dementia,
right like that, That was if we can hide enough
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of it from the public and get away with They
just did this. Everybody, the same Democrats, the same press corps,
the same networks. They just ran this playbook blew up
in their face, but they got close. The playbook this
time is not we're going to hide the dementia of
our candidate, but it is we are going to hide
the absolute incompetence and lack of likability of this candidate
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by shielding her from the public. She should be in
charge of you, but you're not allowed to see who
she really is. That is the entire game. I don't
know that they're I know they want to do it.
I don't know they're going to be able to pull
this one off. I think this could be could be
a double whammy. Biden gets exposed, Kamala gets exposed.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Here's the other thing I would hammer home here, Buck
Kamala said, if you have something to say to me,
say it to my face. Jade Vance just tried to
do that, and they wouldn't get out of the plane
and talk to him. I think he can use that
clip of her bragging. You know, it's a stupid line
in the first place, Like what if you have somebody
to say to me, say it to my face. Like
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you're in a presidential campaign, you're almost never in the
same place, Like that's a weird thing to say. You know,
Usually you use that line when somebody's talking behind your
back and you've suddenly figured out what they're saying. These
guys talk in front of microphones and cameras for a
living all day long, every day. That's what the job
of a campaign is In theory, but that's actually a
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good way. I tried, like, I mean, a good tweet
from the Vance team would be I tried to talk
to Kamala Harris's face, she wouldn't talk to me, just
like she won't talk to every member of the media
that has been following her for seventeen days now. I
also think, what do we always talking about with media?
They actually are really insecure because deep down, when your
job is just to follow somebody else around and write
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down what they say, at some point you start to
feel like what you are, which is just kind of
like a wimp, right, like, oh, let me get my
notepad and see what somebody said, Like oh can you
believe that? Yeah, we all just saw it on video.
Your job is to is to write what we all
just saw happen on video.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is my thing.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
By the way, with a lot of beat writers in
sports media, they ultimately know that they're kind of worthless
and they dislike the Internet because they put all this
stuff on. I'm sorry, they have workless jobs. Most sports
media ros, most sports media reporters and media are for
the most part worthless. They don't provide anything new or
(28:23):
original content. They just write down what somebody else said,
so they recognize and they're insecure about this.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
The way I've interacted with like press reporters before in
the White House, for example, and it's a miserable job.
I mean it, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
But I mean that's specifically the case when you aren't
allowed to answer ask questions, right like, at least if
you're in the White House briefing room, you can ask
in theory Karine Jean Pierre of questions because she's standing there.
But when the people you cover won't even talk to you,
they're treating you like their house cat. They are treating
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you like you are just their pet. This is beyond
and they're insecure of that. If you do it, it's
it's beyond. What you're saying is absolutely true, but it's
beyond just for the media. What Kamala Harris is doing
is demeaning to the American voter, and I.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It is demeaning. Kamala Harris's candidacy is rooted in you
are too dumb, meaning the American people are too dumb
to realize what's going on. And if anyone thinks that's
too harsh or I'm just saying it because I'm right
wing whatever. That was the campaign they were running with
Joe Biden. You the American people from the Democrat perspective
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too dumb to know that Joe had dementia. Now everybody
on the right new. But they're hoping to fool enough
people about Kamala, just like they were hoping to fool Remember,
they only have to fool fifty one percent of the electorate,
give or take right, that's it. So it's not about
like our audience. Well, no, yeah, we've taught for four
years about how Joe can't do the job and he
(30:03):
clearly has sinility and dementia and all these problems we knew,
you knew. But Kamala's campaign is, Hey, undecided voters, I
think you're a bunch of morons. I'm not going to
do anything to show you who I really am. I'm
going to let my little lackeys in the media do
everything for me because I have no respect for your
intellect whatsoever. That is Kamala's campaign at its core, and.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That again, I would I would get them to cover
it by playing to their insecurity of realizing that their
Kamala's housecat.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh. The only way to get the the only way
to get like the standard issue journals is to embarrass them.
That's the only way to get them to do their
jobs that they don't want to do because it's politically inconvenient.
You have to embarrass them.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And I think that there's an opportunity here that the
Trump Vance campaign through JD. Who I don't know if
this was planned. Sometimes the best political moves are serendipitous,
where you trust your instincts and you're like, holy crap,
there's Kamala's playing.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
We're here. I'm gonna go walk.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Over and talk about the fact that she won't even
talk to any of you.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Again. I don't know that this was planned, but it's genius.
Can I also say this, you know, I think it's
worth noting Jeddy Vance is really smart. Yeah. It helps
to have really smart people making your case for you
and presenting themselves. I'm not saying he's perfect, you know,
I don't. I'm not even There's some politicians where i'd
say certainly friendly with them. I'm not sure i'd say
(31:34):
they're friends. I don't even know JD. I mean, I know,
you know we've had contact only in a professional setting.
He's a very smart guy that helps you know, he's
not very smart, Joe Biden. You know who else isn't
very smart? Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, if you're terrified of what your candidate might say
when they talk to media, why in the world should
that person be president of the United States? Honestly, Like,
you might not like what Trump says, but he'll talk
to anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I mean, I mean, he just did.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like a YouTube blogger spent an hour with him. Like
the question you should ask sometimes of Trump? Is he
doing too much media? Is he talking too often?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
By the way, didn't the YouTube blogger give him a
cyber truck with Trump's like photo on it from the
from the you know, after whard he got shot and
he lifted his fist up. Man, Apparently we should have
been twenty five year old YouTube like given out. We
can't give out cyber trucks to guests. That's YouTube's a
whole other level. Apparently I don't even know who that
(32:35):
guy is. And I read I was like, who is
this guy? Baron Trump was the one who got his
dad to do it because he loves that guy on YouTube.
And that might sound ridiculous to some of us. For
you question, for you, friend of mine, friend of mine
just raised this. When Bush ran against Carrie, there was
(32:55):
a demand for transcripts college trans scripts. Should Jade Vance
say I'll put forward my LSAT score if Kamala Harris
puts forward hers silence, I mean stunts. I'm just wondering.
I'm just wondering. That was a real thing Bush Bush Carrie.
(33:16):
It was a demand from Carrie that they released their
college grades. That was the game.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I'm not a fan of the college grades. What I
will say is jd Vance can say, unlike Kamala Harris,
I passed the bar when I took the bar exam.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, this is an extension. You know, you're not curious
to see what the You're not curious see what the
ls AT score.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, some people can, like some people can bomb one.
Remember you only take the ls AT once. The bar
exam to me is the ultimate. She failed the bar exam,
like you only have to be You.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Feel like that's already, that's already kind of established, like whatever,
like a standardized test. People can bomb or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You study for the bar exam, I know because I
did it two years in a row. You study so
much because you're terrified of failing. After three years and
she failed. That's in indictment to me of her overall intelligence.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
As an elite. The attorney General of the state in California,
which you would think would be somebody who has to
have a super sharp legal mind or fit in the
right categories. You don't. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No one fails the bar exam who studied for it
and is a genius.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I don't believe it happens.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You can be smart and fail the bar exam because
you didn't study that hard. But I'm saying if you study,
no one who is super smart fails the bar exam,
you don't do it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
She did.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
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Said, this is such a nice, nice thing. First, congrats
to you with Laura. It's so nice in the media
world for somebody to be celebrating a twentieth anniversary and
you know this is you're gonna jeanx me. You're gonna
jinx me here. It's a good example. I'm just saying,
it's a good example for the kids, for the future generations.
You know what I mean.
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This is lots of media people don't make it twenty years.
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That's fair to sense. It's one of the impressive things
about my esteem co host here, mister Claiy Travis, a
true family man and wonderful boys and a lovely wife.
So congrats to you man. Twenty years. That's I've made
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Thanks for hanging
Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now. Thanks for
being here with us, our friend Sean Parnell joins. He's
a combat veteran New York Times bestselling author of Outwall Platoon.
He also hosts Battleground Live on the Clay and Buck
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(00:20):
to the Sean Parnell Show. Sean, great to have you,
my friend. Good to talk to you again. As always, Buck,
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Great to be here. Thank you and Clay for having
me as well.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So let's start with the big item today, Sean, that
I think you could really shed some light on. There's
a lot of criticism and it's coming to me as
well as a lot of other people, but coming to
me from veterans specifically, who are saying this guy Walls
wants to tell us all that you know, he served
(00:52):
and we should all kind of bow down to his
veteran status. And it's all great and it's amazing, But
when it came time, after many years being a sergeant
major to go to a rock, he chose not to go.
Can you break this down? Firs As somebody who was
over there, was in combat and served his country at
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that level. What do you make of what we know
about Governor Walls and his service at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Buck, It's it's cowardice, plain and simple. And let me
give you a sense of how eighteen year old privates,
which by the way, very very different from a command
sergeant major. Command sergeant major is the highest enlisted rank
in the United States Military. Command Sergeants major are the
heart and soul of any unit. They're the door kickers.
(01:42):
They teach, they coach, they mentor they train units. And
Walls probably had eight hundred plus soldiers at a minimum
beneath him. But my soldiers, my privates in combat and again,
I was in combat for four hundred and eighty five
days in Afghanistan. Let an infantry PLATOONA at the height
of the hunter for beIN lot. I watched my soldiers
(02:02):
do extraordinary things in combat because they were afraid of
letting each other down. I watched my medic, his name
is Doc Pantoha, get shot in the face and then
treat twelve casualties without ever once taking care of himself,
three of which would have died without his help. I
watched a kid in my platoon named Canton Wynn gets
shot in the head. He was ebac to Germany developed
(02:25):
the blood clot When the docs tried to send him home,
he said, no, keep me here in Germany because when
I heal up, I want to get back to my soldiers.
All of that buck was because they didn't want to
let their brothers down next to them in the trenches.
And keep in mind, the job that most of these
kids had before joining the United States Military was high
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school shortstop, and so everything that we do in the
military is geared towards not letting your brothers and sisters down.
And that obligation is far greater if you're a leader,
whether you're a non commissioned officer and enlisted leader in
the United States Military or an officer. You know, when
I was in ranger school, like probably the most difficult
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school at the United States leadership school that the Army
has to offer. I mean, it was constantly about starving you,
keeping you awake, you know, marching twenty miles a day,
putting you in very very high pressure leadership situations where
they turn to you and say, make a decision, you know,
make a decision ranger, Lead what are you gonna do?
And I'll never forget in combat, trapped in a kill
(03:34):
zone with my radio telephone operator looking at me these big,
bright blue eyes and he's you know, we're surrounded, outmanned,
out gunned, shot shooting at us from all different directions.
He's looking at me and reverberating on my mind or
make a decision?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Lead right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And so Walls has an obligation as a command sergeant major,
the senior enlisted member in his batown, in his unit,
to when they get orders to go to combat, to
go to Iraq. It's his job to lead. It's his
job to lead from the front, to set the example.
(04:13):
Run to the sound of gunfire, not away, but in
those critical moments when all of his soldiers eight hundred
plus at a minimum, by the way, buck eight hundred
plus looking at him, bright eyed, bushy tailed, and probably
a little bit afraid that they're going into the fray,
he tucked tails and he runs at that critical moment.
I mean what like it basically says to these kids
(04:35):
who are going into i Raq and don't know whether
or not they're going to come home alive, Hey, good luck,
hope you survive. I'm out of here. I'm retiring. It's
it's just gutting bucks. It's hard to describe the level
of cowardice that it takes for a leader in the
United States military, especially one that served for twenty four years.
They tried out this twenty four years thing, like it's
(04:57):
something about, oh, let's look how long he's served. He
should know better after two years, twenty four years, it's
just dereliction of duty of the highest order, of the
highest order.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Sean I Buck and I talked about this because I
saw you tweeting about it as soon as this story started,
and I said, I want to bring on Sean because
I don't even feel that comfortable analyzing it because frankly,
I never served, so a lot of people I think
out there here, oh twenty four years, and they automatically think, hey,
this is a valorous guy. But I think your perspective
(05:32):
is so important. How many people do you think that
have served in combat zones when they hear this about
Tim Walls have the exact same reaction that you do.
In other words, how commonplace do you think your opinion
is among those who have actually put their lives on
the line.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Overseas or elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Everyone Clay, every single person that served overseas, probably looks
at this decision with disdain because the reality is is
that when you get to go to combat, to go
to war, regardless of where it is, you sacrifice a
lot to do that. And you know, you sacrifice time
with your family. If you have kids, you sacrifice time
with your children. The truth is, nobody wants to go,
(06:14):
but you sattle up and you go anyway because it's
your duty, and you have a duty, an obligation to
the man and woman in the trenches next to you.
And if you have if you're a leader, that obligation
is even greater because you know you have an obligation
to lead from the front, to go to where the
fire is heaviest, right to where you can have the
biggest impact on the battlefield. And not only that, you
(06:37):
know that every decision that you make could forever alter
the trajectory of your soldiers, and god forbid, if you
make a bad one, one of them goes home in
a body bag. And by the way, what I'm talking
about is I'm not the exception to this, I'm the rule.
This is the situation that America's sons and daughters and
(06:57):
find themselves in whether they're an enlisted leader or an officer,
when they raise their right hand and volunteer to serve
in the military. Clay, So anyone that has shouldered that
awesome responsibility of leading America's sons and daughters. Nobody wants
to go to combat, but you saddle up and you
go anyway because it's your duty. And for him to
talk tail and run and then try to make the
(07:19):
case that he should be the vice president of the
United States a heartbeat away from the presidency while simultaneously
calling Donald Trump and jd Vance weird, it's just beyond
It's just beyond comprehension.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Sean really appreciate that that perspective. We needed to hear
that a lot. You know, we have so many veterans,
we have so many active duty that listen to this show,
and so to bring in somebody who who has really
been out there and understands these decisions, I think it's
just necessary perspective. I also want to bring in your
perspective as a native son of Pennsylvania, a Pittsburg area
(07:56):
guy who has run for Congress and knows the political battlefield.
You're talking about the battlefield of Afghanistan or Rockyfort, but
now in the political battlefield quite a bit different. They
didn't go with the governor of your state, Shapiro. How
do you now assess Trump the Kamala in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, first of all, let me just say, as someone
who's run for office twice in Pennsylvania, I gotta tell you,
Clay Buck, I'm very glad that they did not pick
Josh Shapiro because Josh Shapiro fakes a good game, he
fakes being a moderate and of course we all understand
there's no such thing as a moderate Democrat. But he's
in the most important swing state in the nation. I
(08:42):
contend that Pennsylvania is the swing state because if you
win Pennsylvania Democrat or Republican, it's far more likely that
you win Michigan. It's far more likely that you win Wisconsin.
And so to not pick Josh Shapiro because of the
pro Hamas base pro Hamas base of their party, when
Shapia zero has sixty percent favorability and just won an
election here in Pennsylvania just a couple of years ago,
(09:05):
I'm telling you it's mind blowingly stupid decision because vice
presidential candidates, while they don't always carry their home state
and a presidential cycle, oftentimes this is empirically validated over time.
They're good for a one point eight percent bump in
their home state. And guess what one point eight percent
in Pennsylvania could make all the difference. So I am
glad that Kamala picked Walls because right now, between Harris
(09:30):
and Walls, we have what I believe to be the
most radical top of the ticket in the history of
our country. And I don't think that's hyperbole, and that's
not going to play well in Pennsylvania, where you have
over one point two million independents that are trying to
assess where they want to go with their lives. And
(09:50):
I think when they go into that election booth clay
Buck and they pull that lever, it's going to be
a very simple calculation for them. What life was like
under Trump, you know, food gas affordable four oh one
k going up, and what life is like under Biden
and who Kamala Harris is connected to life is a
heck of a lot harder now. And when you're trying
(10:11):
to make the case to independence, you know, Blue Staters
like somebody from Minnesota like Walls, somebody from California like Harris.
They struggle mightily to talk to those centrists that are
critically important to win. So I think it bodes well
for Trump and JD in Pennsylvania that they've got this
crazy radical Walls on the ticket.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, you're a you're a Philly, you're a Pittsburgh guy.
I got an important question for you. To close out
everything you covered. You covered what you seemed to be
Tim Wallas's cowardice. You just broke down how Pennsylvania is
gonna go uh in the election. This is the question
that people in Pittsburgh care about the most. Who's going
to be the quarterback this year? And how's he gonna do?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know, I look this, I'll tell you what Russell
Wilson hurting his calf. I mean, there's always a quarterback
controversy in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But I would tell you this.
I would be remiss to weigh in on that topic
now because.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
The way hold on, hold on this is this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You'll give You'll give an opinion on Tim Walls's service record,
on Kamala Harris's choice of vice president not even blink,
just fire full speed. I ask you to break down
the Steelers quarterback situation. You are a die hard Steelers
fan and you're like, I just I don't know that
I can weigh in on this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't listen, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You combat four and fifty days taking bullets from meers
trying to kill you for over a year, and you
won't tell me who the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is going to be.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Look, look, Steelers fans are vicious. Okay, they're passionate. They're
the best traveling fans a football. I'll tell you this.
Justin Field's throwing dimes in training camp. I've been watching
very optimistic about that. He's got some longevity, He's got
legs underneath him, which is good for the Pittsburgh offense.
But hey, Russell Wilson, veteran quarterback, is good under pressure
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in those critical moments, especially if you make it to
the playoffs. And I'm hoping, fingers crossed that the Steelers
make it to the playoffs, and so you know, we'll
see where the car.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The most pressing questions in the world put him on
the spot for who's going to be Steelers quarterback?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And he gets right on the fence.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But this.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Is amazing. He's you know, the network trying to ambush
him for eighteen months, like, yeah no, but what's the
depth chart of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Clay. I don't want
to get myself into too much stress and trouble here.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So, by the way, Sean, as we go to break,
I told I told you, I told Buck. We got
to meet in person at the event we just did
last week. You and your wife fantastic. We're happy to
have you as a part of the podcast network despite
your cowardice on picking a Steelers quarterback. I would encourage
everybody out there to go listen to Sean Parnell's podcast.
I guarantee you're going to love it. And we appreciate
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the time today.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Buck, take care guys. Yeah, great to
see you man. That is fabulous. Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
There you go, guys, fearless, answering every question under the sun.
You ask him who the quarterback of his favorite team
is going to be, and he turns tail. It's a
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a writer at Semaphore, also, by the way, happens to
be the fiance of one of our writers at OutKick.
Shelby is fantastic. I saw her up in Milwaukee, said
she shared a video that I have retweeted and that
we will share on Clay and Buck. She said, just
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landed in Wisconsin. Jd Vance and Kamala Harris's plane are
both here on the tarmac. He appears to be walking over.
Jd Vance did in fact walk over to Camma Harris's plane,
and he said, I just wanted to check out my
future plane, he said, which is a great line because
(17:07):
Kamala is riding around in the VP plane. Said he
wasn't able to speak to Harris, but said he wanted
to go say hello to the vice president and ask
her why is she refusing to answer everyone's questions. This
is interesting, Oh Claire, I believe it is how you
would pronounced it, Oh Claire, Wisconsin. Hopefully it's going to
(17:29):
be my plane in a few months. I also thought
you guys may get lonely because the Vice president doesn't
answer questions from reporters. He said that to her press
gaggle that is not getting any questions or access to
Kamala Harris. I think that's smart. Buck may require the
press to actually recognize, Hey, Kamala is hiding, which is
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Urgent Message dot com. I really like this jd Vance
move that Clay was just telling you about. I watched
the video in our little station break there and Jane
is walking up to the press corps assigned to Vice
President Harris. She has reporters who travel with her. She
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says nothing to them. Think about that for a moment.
Your job supposedly, I mean, their job in their minds
is to help Democrats get elected and stay in power.
But put that aside. Theoretically, their job is supposed to
be bringing the truth to the American people by asking
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questions that need to be asked by a person in
power or of a person in power. And they won't
do that, And you have to wonder what the heck
is going on here? And you could tell the reporters
are somewhat dumbfounded because they they're being exposed in that
moment too, because they're part of the Harris propaganda effort.
Because if any of them word to speak out, and
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they all could, they could be on I'll be watching
Morning Joe tomorrow. They could be on MSNBC. They could
be tweeting, they could be making noise about, hey, I'm
on Vice President Harris's press pool, and she doesn't talk
to us and has it in seventeen she hasn't talked
to them since she became the presidential nominee for the Democrats.
Think about that. It's not just seventeen days. It's seventeen
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days since she said I should have the most important
job in the world, and they just gave it to her.
Basically they decided there was no election or anything. Doesn't
feel the need to answer any questions. It just goes
to show you however much contempt people have for the
standard journalists supposed ethics, impartiality, what they it's not enough.
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You do not have enough contempt for these journals.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So two things. One for people out there who don't
know behind the scenes, they give a print out of
every speech that Kamala Harris is giving to the journalist
in advance of her giving that speech, which she is
reading directly off the teleprompter, so it's not as if
they have to go and see what she's going to say.
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They get everything that she said handed directly to them
in advance of her speech. So they are in this
position not creating any actual news. They are legitimately the
stenographer of Kamala Harris because they just write down whatever
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she said and basically just cut and paste from her
speech into their articles about her speech. So that's point
one point two. I wish there was a camera on
Kamala Harris. When Jade Vance started to walk across the
tarmac towards her plane and her staff, I bet that
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this was an ultimate VIEP moment where they started panicking, Oh,
my goodness, here comes Jade Vance. What are we gonna do?
What are we gonna say? Like pull up the stairs,
Let's make sure that we don't have any interaction at all.
But I would love to have the camera. You know,
they're staging all these ridiculous like did you see the
Tim Waltz call where it's like, oh, hey, I just
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happened to pick up my phone. Here with eight different
cameras shooting me talking to you. This is a totally
normal conversation. You've seen these things like the Baraka Michelle
Obama endorsement. They try to pretend like, oh, here's Kamala,
totally authentic. Let's watch her talk on our phone, and
then we'll also have a camera crew set up at
Tim Waltz's house and we'll also get his other side.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I mean, it's so fake. You know how you thought,
sadly correctly, that Joe Biden dementia. House of Cards would
fall apart, right, and I thought they may be able
to keep as we know, I thought they may be
able to just ignore and ignore it. And they got
really far. It was close, but you thought. I'm telling you, man,
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I really believe Kamala House of Cards there. It's gonna
be a few weeks, but this thing, there's going to
be a moment where everyone goes, oh my god, this
is the woman who Democrats And don't ever forget this.
Democrats had been had been criticizing for four years for
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being useless to Joe Biden and a drag on his
presidential aspirations. Okay, that was objective reality, that was what
was really going on. And now because they are desperate
and they are ruthless and they are power mad, the
Democrats are just pretending that. You know, it's like they've
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gone from prosecution to defense. They're on the other team.
It doesn't matter. Yes, that is accurate.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And remember they wanted to replace her as the least
popular vice president ever and now they are telling you,
oh my goodness, She's run a flawless presidential campaign for
seventeen days and she still hasn't spoken to any of them.
And so I appreciate here's an idea for you, buck.
What if just tossing it out there, what if instead
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of scheduling their own jd Vance events, they just copied
everywhere that Kamala went and jd Vance landed at every
airport that she does and kept saying, Hey, when are
you going to talk to the media, When are you
going to start talking to the media, thereby forcing the
media to cover the fact that she doesn't talk to
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the media. They can't ignore it if he's showing up
there and doing press conferences outside of her airport.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I actually airplane.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I actually think it could be brilliant calling it like
he can stand and do a press conference with her
airplane in the background and say, I'll answer any question
you guys have on any topic under the sun. Kamala
still won't answer any questions for any of you. I'm
here to talk to you because she won't talk to you.
She's making you worthless. You're her stenographers. I could actually
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be really good, sort.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Of like the COVID case counter that remember they were
trying to freak everybody out, and then they did the
death counter of how many people died from COVID and
we know that number was wildly exaggerated, but anyway, he
should do a Hey, everybody, great to do this, jd
vance press commerce with you. It has been you know,
twenty days, it has been twenty two days, it has
been you know, keep going since Kamala Harris became the
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nominee and she hasn't answered a single question from the
press corps. Like I think, yeah, because I'm their only hope.
It's this is a little bit like the game plan
they were running for Biden. With Biden, it was we
just have to hide the fact that he has dementia,
right like that, That was if we can hide enough
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of it from the public and get away with They
just did this. Everybody, the same Democrats, the same press corps,
the same networks. They just ran this playbook blew up
in their face, but they got close. The playbook this
time is not we're going to hide the dementia of
our candidate, but it is we are going to hide
the absolute incompetence and lack of likability of this candidate
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by shielding her from the public. She should be in
charge of you, but you're not allowed to see who
she really is. That is the entire game. I don't
know that they're I know they want to do it.
I don't know they're going to be able to pull
this one off. I think this could be could be
a double whammy. Biden gets exposed, Kamala gets exposed.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Here's the other thing I would hammer home here, Buck
Kamala said, if you have something to say to me,
say it to my face. Jade Vance just tried to
do that, and they wouldn't get out of the plane
and talk to him. I think he can use that
clip of her bragging. You know, it's a stupid line
in the first place, Like what if you have somebody
to say to me, say it to my face. Like
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you're in a presidential campaign, you're almost never in the
same place, Like that's a weird thing to say. You know,
Usually you use that line when somebody's talking behind your
back and you've suddenly figured out what they're saying. These
guys talk in front of microphones and cameras for a
living all day long, every day. That's what the job
of a campaign is In theory, but that's actually a
(27:21):
good way. I tried, like, I mean, a good tweet
from the Vance team would be I tried to talk
to Kamala Harris's face, she wouldn't talk to me, just
like she won't talk to every member of the media
that has been following her for seventeen days now. I
also think, what do we always talking about with media?
They actually are really insecure because deep down, when your
job is just to follow somebody else around and write
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down what they say, at some point you start to
feel like what you are, which is just kind of
like a wimp, right, like, oh, let me get my
notepad and see what somebody said, Like oh can you
believe that? Yeah, we all just saw it on video.
Your job is to is to write what we all
just saw happen on video.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is my thing.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
By the way, with a lot of beat writers in
sports media, they ultimately know that they're kind of worthless
and they dislike the Internet because they put all this
stuff on. I'm sorry, they have workless jobs. Most sports
media ros, most sports media reporters and media are for
the most part worthless. They don't provide anything new or
(28:23):
original content. They just write down what somebody else said,
so they recognize and they're insecure about this.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
The way I've interacted with like press reporters before in
the White House, for example, and it's a miserable job.
I mean it, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
But I mean that's specifically the case when you aren't
allowed to answer ask questions, right like, at least if
you're in the White House briefing room, you can ask
in theory Karine Jean Pierre of questions because she's standing there.
But when the people you cover won't even talk to you,
they're treating you like their house cat. They are treating
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you like you are just their pet. This is beyond
and they're insecure of that. If you do it, it's
it's beyond. What you're saying is absolutely true, but it's
beyond just for the media. What Kamala Harris is doing
is demeaning to the American voter, and I.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It is demeaning. Kamala Harris's candidacy is rooted in you
are too dumb, meaning the American people are too dumb
to realize what's going on. And if anyone thinks that's
too harsh or I'm just saying it because I'm right
wing whatever. That was the campaign they were running with
Joe Biden. You the American people from the Democrat perspective
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too dumb to know that Joe had dementia. Now everybody
on the right new. But they're hoping to fool enough
people about Kamala, just like they were hoping to fool Remember,
they only have to fool fifty one percent of the electorate,
give or take right, that's it. So it's not about
like our audience. Well, no, yeah, we've taught for four
years about how Joe can't do the job and he
(30:03):
clearly has sinility and dementia and all these problems we knew,
you knew. But Kamala's campaign is, Hey, undecided voters, I
think you're a bunch of morons. I'm not going to
do anything to show you who I really am. I'm
going to let my little lackeys in the media do
everything for me because I have no respect for your
intellect whatsoever. That is Kamala's campaign at its core, and.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That again, I would I would get them to cover
it by playing to their insecurity of realizing that their
Kamala's housecat.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh. The only way to get the the only way
to get like the standard issue journals is to embarrass them.
That's the only way to get them to do their
jobs that they don't want to do because it's politically inconvenient.
You have to embarrass them.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And I think that there's an opportunity here that the
Trump Vance campaign through JD. Who I don't know if
this was planned. Sometimes the best political moves are serendipitous,
where you trust your instincts and you're like, holy crap,
there's Kamala's playing.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
We're here. I'm gonna go walk.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Over and talk about the fact that she won't even
talk to any of you.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Again. I don't know that this was planned, but it's genius.
Can I also say this, you know, I think it's
worth noting Jeddy Vance is really smart. Yeah. It helps
to have really smart people making your case for you
and presenting themselves. I'm not saying he's perfect, you know,
I don't. I'm not even There's some politicians where i'd
say certainly friendly with them. I'm not sure i'd say
(31:34):
they're friends. I don't even know JD. I mean, I know,
you know we've had contact only in a professional setting.
He's a very smart guy that helps you know, he's
not very smart, Joe Biden. You know who else isn't
very smart? Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, if you're terrified of what your candidate might say
when they talk to media, why in the world should
that person be president of the United States? Honestly, Like,
you might not like what Trump says, but he'll talk
to anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I mean, I mean, he just did.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like a YouTube blogger spent an hour with him. Like
the question you should ask sometimes of Trump? Is he
doing too much media? Is he talking too often?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
By the way, didn't the YouTube blogger give him a
cyber truck with Trump's like photo on it from the
from the you know, after whard he got shot and
he lifted his fist up. Man, Apparently we should have
been twenty five year old YouTube like given out. We
can't give out cyber trucks to guests. That's YouTube's a
whole other level. Apparently I don't even know who that
(32:35):
guy is. And I read I was like, who is
this guy? Baron Trump was the one who got his
dad to do it because he loves that guy on YouTube.
And that might sound ridiculous to some of us. For
you question, for you, friend of mine, friend of mine
just raised this. When Bush ran against Carrie, there was
(32:55):
a demand for transcripts college trans scripts. Should Jade Vance
say I'll put forward my LSAT score if Kamala Harris
puts forward hers silence, I mean stunts. I'm just wondering.
I'm just wondering. That was a real thing Bush Bush Carrie.
(33:16):
It was a demand from Carrie that they released their
college grades. That was the game.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I'm not a fan of the college grades. What I
will say is jd Vance can say, unlike Kamala Harris,
I passed the bar when I took the bar exam.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, this is an extension. You know, you're not curious
to see what the You're not curious see what the
ls AT score.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, some people can, like some people can bomb one.
Remember you only take the ls AT once. The bar
exam to me is the ultimate. She failed the bar exam,
like you only have to be You.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Feel like that's already, that's already kind of established, like whatever,
like a standardized test. People can bomb or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You study for the bar exam, I know because I
did it two years in a row. You study so
much because you're terrified of failing. After three years and
she failed. That's in indictment to me of her overall intelligence.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
As an elite. The attorney General of the state in California,
which you would think would be somebody who has to
have a super sharp legal mind or fit in the
right categories. You don't. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No one fails the bar exam who studied for it
and is a genius.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I don't believe it happens.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You can be smart and fail the bar exam because
you didn't study that hard. But I'm saying if you study,
no one who is super smart fails the bar exam,
you don't do it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
She did.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
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Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I will be with you and then unless
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and so we are gonna be gone for the next week.
So I'll be with you tomorrow and then twentieth anniversary
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Said, this is such a nice, nice thing. First, congrats
to you with Laura. It's so nice in the media
world for somebody to be celebrating a twentieth anniversary and
you know this is you're gonna jeanx me. You're gonna
jinx me here. It's a good example. I'm just saying,
it's a good example for the kids, for the future generations.
You know what I mean.
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This is lots of media people don't make it twenty years.
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about my esteem co host here, mister Claiy Travis, a
true family man and wonderful boys and a lovely wife.
So congrats to you man. Twenty years. That's I've made
it eighteen months. That's more than a lot of people
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