March 29, 2023 • 37 mins
More thoughts on Trump grand jury in NY to take one-month hiatus. Carjackings occur in D.C. while Congress debates D.C. crime. Who cares about Chris Christie? Where is the Nashville shooter's manifesto? Josh Hawley calls on Congress to condemn hate crime against Christians in Nashville. Should TikTok be banned? Top 4 free apps in U.S. are Chinese owned. Will Clay and Buck stand in line for anything?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
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Right now, spring break for a lot of people coming
up on Easter holiday. Before long you'll be traveling for
hopeful vacation for the summer kids. At least where I am,
only have a little bit over what like two months
left until school gets out down here in the South
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late May mid May. Many places out there. I know,
we start early, finish early, so you'll be able to
find us anywhere. So a couple of different things that
are out there that I want to update you on.
There is a report now been confirmed by it appears
many multi multiple media outlets that is that there's going
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to be a one month break on the Donald Trump
grand jury investigation. This would mean that the earliest that
Donald Trump could theoretically face criminal charges in New York
City over the one hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment
to Stormy Daniels would be late April. Buck As we discussed,
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there's also a strong possibility that Alvin Bragg, the DA
in New York City, is trying to dial back the
expectation that he's going to bring charges. One way to
dial back that expectation is to just interject a few
months between when the charges were expected and what is
going on right now. And so I think you have
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to consider, particularly because the earliest would be late April,
that we may be looking at an abandonment of this
case now. Doesn't mean that Georgia might not rear its head.
Doesn't mean that the Department of Justice may not decide
to do something. Although both of us think that's less
likely in terms of the Department of Justice. So that information,
I believe is fairly consequential and important. That is the latest.
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There We continue and you agree I think with that
in general. Absolutely. Can I just give you a little
bit of breaking news from about the last fifteen minutes.
This is from Ben Williamson, who was in the Trump
previously the Trump White House and in the Mark Meadows
Congressional office. He's DC based guy, and he just says
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that while he retweeted this rather that there have been
in the last hour, two reported attempted carjackings in Washington, DC.
And according to this account, while the Democrats in the
Oversight Committee were complaining about, you know, the way the
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DC crime has has been handled, etc. There was a
at First Street and an I in southeast DC. A
carjacker tried to ram officers and hit three automobiles. So,
while they're on Capitol Hill talking about things like, hey,
maybe we shouldn't have smaller punishments or lesser punishments for carjackings,
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a carjacking was attempted about half a mile away from
the Capitol. Yeah, that's perfect. I think DC's got some
problems yeah, carjackings very serious crime. And it is, like
you said in the last hour, up one hundred percent,
which is flat out unbelievable. So did you do you
care about the Chris Christie thing? By the way, I
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just want to I want to ask you this, does
this matter to you at all, that Chris Christie saying
he might get into the race just so we could
go after Trump? Or is this a total non event?
I don't think anybody cares about Chris Christie. Yeah, like
it's it's akin to to me. The only person who
could beat Trump is Rhn de Santis and Chris Christie
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had a moment. His moment has passed, and I know
he went and tried to take out did take out
Marco Rubio? If you remember from back in twenty sixteen,
he basically suicide vested Marco Rubio. I think Trump. I
think Trump took out Marco Rubio. I don't think. I
wouldn't give Chris Christie that much credit. I mean, it
was a bad moment for him, but yeah, in the debate,
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you know, basically calling him a robot, I thought, yeah,
that Marco Rubio was effectively done at that point. But
that was when Chris Christie still had a little bit
of juice. I feel like, if Trump is smart, he'll
just ignore Chris Christie and say, like, nobody cares really
about your opinion. I understand why Chris Christie would want
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a feud with Trump, but it feels like Trump would
be put punching down to a massive degree to even
care what Chris Christie says. I guess just the analysis
that people have started to push around a little bit
would be if you had if you had Chris Christie
whose only job was to just say the things about
Trump that no other Republicans willing to say. How does
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that No one thinks Chris Christie is going to be president.
This is just a vendetta thing for him personally. So
he'll get up there and he'll say the stuff that
no Republican will say to Trump because the Republican base
doesn't want to hear it. Oh. I think the santisis,
if he's gonna beat Trump, has to say really nasty thing.
You think he's gonna have to get into it. I
think I think the only way to Santis beats Trump
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is if he looks right at Trump and says, you're
a loser. You lost to Joe Biden, and you'll lose
to him again in twenty twenty four. I think that's
the only way that DeSantis wins. And the reason why
I think that would work for de Santis is I
think it would lead Trump back into his twenty twenty
stolen election. He rings, which most people don't want to hear.
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I understand if you're the diehard Trump base, and I
agree the election was rigged. Trump got screwed in twenty twenty.
I don't dispute that at all. But if DeSantis has
to on the stage, face to face with Trump say
you are a loser. You lost in twenty twenty, and
you are going to lose worse in twenty twenty four,
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there's a reason Democrats want you as the choice. I
don't know DeSantis necessarily has the stones to do it,
but I think that's the only way he beats Trump
is by really staring him straight down in the face
and saying, I'm a better option than you. You lost
in twenty twenty to the worst president than any of
us have ever seen in our lives, and you're gonna
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lose to him again if you're the nominee. That's nasty.
I think it would get Trump really angry, because the
one thing Trump doesn't want to hear is he's a loser.
But I think that's the only way that de Santis
can beat Trump. You agree or disagree, you think he
has to go or you think I don't think you can,
like you know, sort of pirouet your way around the
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eight hundred pound gorilla. I think if you're gonna win,
you have to walk right up and you know, just
basically slap the gorilla in the face and you just
got to have the fight. In my opinion, that's the
only way to Santis wins. First, he has to actually announced.
That's announced. But my point is if Chris Christie tries
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to do that, or Mike Pence is not gonna do it,
or Nicky Haley or Tim Scott or any of those guys,
I don't think they have the cajonas to step into
the ring and actually say that to and it matter right,
Like there's low low level like I don't know if
if if Liz Cheney decides to run, which I think
she will, and then she's gonna run as an independent
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and try to steal the election, all those things, nobody's
gonna care what Liz Cheney says to Trump, right, I mean,
Chris Christie is to be fair funnier. I would think
that Liz Cheney, right, I mean Jersey guy, right, he's
a New Jersey guy. He probably got a little more
funny things to see. Liz Cheney came on this show,
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and she only came on to tell jokes, which her
career kind of is. But let's pretend that she's actually
telling jokes. I don't think she could make you or
me laugh, like so, I don't think that Liz Cheney
like has a high charisma connection. I do remember there
was that moment where Chris Christie, and you can go
back and watch some of these videos, he was he
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was great at one thing that you would see him doing,
and it was laying into the teachers unions in New Jersey,
which were a total public sector cartel. I'm sure this
is back in back. Yeah, of course, true, true. So
the other side of this didn't change, but those videos
were that was right in the tea party era. I
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remember that he was doing a good job with that
um But yeah, and look, he's not a serious contender
for the presidency. I just think it's interesting from a
political dynamics of the primary, if you had he is
a brawler. He's a brawler, right, So does that in
any way affect I'm just doing. I just think if
Trump is smart, it's like you don't get close to
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somebody who has a strong right hand, you know. I
mean from a from a sports analogy, like you just
kind of just give him a little jab every now
and then and just kind of keep it. He can
just basic he could actually just pretty much ignore and
be like the guy as a loser. That's probably what
That's probably how he does it, how he runs it. Yeah,
and I also think I think the counter you know,
punch that's pretty strong. If you decide you want to
engage with Chris Christie is why would anybody pay attention
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to you? Chris Christie, you guarantee that Obama won re
election in twenty twelve by embracing him in the wake
of the hurricane was it Sandy? I mean, I think
you can make an argument that that is what helped
put Obama over the finish line, given how close to
twenty twelve was. So if Trump just says you can
say whatever you want, Chris Christy, you're the reason Obama
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got reelected. I think it really kind of cuts a
lot of his legs out from underneath him. We live
in interesting times, political Clay, So what do you I
didn't mean to divert It's a really good question. I
want to play. Let me play this audio and then
I'll let we'll react to it a little bit, because
I did want to update. We still have not gotten
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the transgender manifesto. I am told that that is going
to be released. It has not happened today. I think
the longer it takes, the more people out there say,
why are we not releasing this manifesto? Because every crazy
other shooter manifesto people it comes out and then Trump
gets blamed for it or whatever else it is. I
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just was a complete this notion, and obviously you saw
my tweet on this. I completely disagree that it should
be the government's purview to prevent us from understanding the
psychopathic reality of some of these mass killers. Because we
talk about mental health and how we can address these things,
how we can stop a future shooting. Well, if the
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public can't know, how can we have any conversation? How
can we expect our leaders to respond to our desires? Anyway,
that's the whole we can get into this. I think
there's no there's no basis that is compelling to me
at all for delay, and certainly for ongoing suppression of
you for the long term. I think it's crazy. I
would just ask you, how would people be responding if
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in my home city of Nashville someone had shown up
at a trans event and shot six trans people, compared
to a trans person showing up at a religious elementary
school and killing six people. It's a hate crime. Here's
Josh Holly, Senator from Missouri saying that, and he's one
of the few that feels like is actually saying it.
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Listen to cut nine. We'll react to it when we
come back. I call on this body, every member of
this body, to condemn, in the clearest of terms, this
hate crime against this community in Nashville. Today, I will
introduce a resolution explicitly condemning this massacre as the hate
crime that it is, and calling upon this body to
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condemn hateful rhetoric that leads to violence, hateful rhetoric against
religious believers, religious institutions, religious communities that leads to violence.
This isn't speculation. This is a tragic fact, it has
happened before our eyes and we must condemn it. We'll
talk about it when we come back. Senator Josh Holly.
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Is it a hate crime? Why are we not seeing
this manifesto all that and more? I mean, I think
it's domestic terrorism. By the way, if we're going to
have a label for domestic terrorism, this looks like domestic
terrorism to me. I used to analyze this for a
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and Buck Sexton, welcome back to play an Buck. We
were just talking before about how there's still no manifesto
for the public to see about this shooter in Nashville
who killed six innocence, the trans shooter who, despite what
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Reuters is trying to indicate, it seems very likely based
on and Routers said this was a Christian student, as
if that has something to do with what happened here.
This students former student, I should say, the shooter was
also considering other targets, including family members, including other sites,
including locations that have nothing to do with Christianity. The
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police haven't given us the full the full set of
possible or considered targets. This was a premeditated murder. But
I would also argue that based on the fact that
there's an almost certain ideological component to this, it is
political violence and the furtherance of a political agenda, which
is the classic and enduring definition of terrorism. Now, we
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often will use this term to will say domestic terrorism
clay to separate it. And there were debates about this
even in the CIA, and debates about this in the
various intelligence community branches about how to talk about these things,
what terminology to use. We'll remember, even during the Obama administration,
we're all supposed to say isole. Do you remember that?
Oh yeah, that was a big fight in the in
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the intelligence community because they kept wanting the public to
say isol instead of ISIS, and everyone kept saying isis.
So you know, this stuff they get into, obviously the
semantics of it at some level. Two, But they say
domestic terrorism because they want to separate it from foreign
inspired the hottest terrorism usually or having an international international
entity nexus to it. But this to me is classic
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domestic terrorism. I don't really know what we have to
see here other than the specifics in the manifesto, but
based on the targets that were chosen here and the
very clear signs of an ideological radicalization, and you can
argue that it's a hate crime as well, though I
think that the broader targets that indicate to me more
domestic terrorism than hate crime. But at some point, also
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as long as there's an understanding of what's really at
stake here and what really happened, the specific terminology between
hate crime and domestic terrorism, I think both are applicable.
And don't you think that we need that manifesto released?
And I understand if they have to redact some portions
of it for a variety of reasons before it's released,
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It needs to be released sooner rather than later, because
I think Ashville Police Department has done themselves a ton
of favors with the videos that they put out, with
the response, with the alacrity with which they put this
information out there. But the longer we don't get a
clear motivation for why this occurred, the more people out
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there feel as if there's being something hidden, it becomes
a political decision instead of a public safety decision. We
should know why this happened. If we're going to try
to prevent, if we're going to try to understand how
to prevent, you have to understand the full scope of
what occurred here. And there is no, in my mind,
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no real reason to hold it back other than the
belief that this may You know that they can't trust
the public with this information because it will lead to
bad outcomes. Well, that's a government excuse for all kinds
of censorship. That's unacceptable. So the manifesto must come out,
and there must be pressure to get it out sooner
than later. I completely agree with you on that as well.
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scroll down through there. Okay, But big topic of discussion
has continued to be whether or not TikTok should be banned.
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We were talking about this off air. H We've got
a big article up and OutKick one of our writers
did a deep dive on what exactly is happening, what
the impact could be. And you were against TikTok being
banned when we discussed it. I think it was on
Monday or Friday earlier this week, I think, right. I
think it's like it's like me an AOC Yeah, but yeah,
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you and Jamal Bowman there and the Democrat left wing
Democrat congressman, I understand your Greenwald. He's also suspicious and
thank you out there. Um, and so my biggest thing
and I saw this and I wanted to add to
that conversation as it is continuing to grow, because it
appears I saw a poll that came out yesterday that
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showed Democrats, Republicans, and Independence were all in favor of
banning TikTok. And my argument was the thing that bothers
me the most about TikTok in general. And this is
a Wall Street Journal article that I saw. Do you
know right now in America, the most downloaded free mobile
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apps in the United States, the top four are all
Chinese owned. A lot of people focusing on TikTok. This
is what I've been saying. Something called Temu. There's something
called cap cut, which I actually am familiar with. I
didn't know China owned it. My twelve year old and
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maybe some of you out there have kids or grandkids
who do this as well. Will make like highlight videos
and you can cut them using different video feeds. The
cap cut is the most famous way to do that
for a YouTube short or for a TikTok or something
like that. And then something else called Shine. Now, all
four of those, the four most downloaded apps in the
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United States right now in this past week, all Chinese owned.
And again that's data from Sorry, I said, Wall Street
Journals actually axios with that data. My biggest issue is
not whether or not TikTok should be banned Buck, It's
that China is not allowing any of our top companies
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access to their markets, and meanwhile they are coming in
here and hoovering up massive audiences in data in the
United States. And there's an argument that one reason why
China is being so successful is they have over a
billion people to be testing their algorithms on in China,
perfecting them, and then bringing them here when they can
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ensure that they are at their most viral and at
their most popular, and then they're competing with American company.
So you can't go on Google, you can't go on YouTube,
you can't go on Twitter, you can't go on Facebook.
They don't allow our largest companies Instagram to compete in China,
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and then they're allowed to come over here and compete
in our markets. I find that's what upsets me. But
so here here's the issue. I mean, that's all true.
I think the issue though, becomes so why does TikTok
get sacrificed in this bargain? Right? Well, why do other
come all these other companies get to keep doing business
in China, but because you know, we're gonna block great
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And that's where I said, like nobody's calling them ban
the iPhone, right, I mean, so so everyone else gets
to keep doing business in China, but oh they won't
let us into their markets, so we're gonna ban TikTok.
Like you know, it seems this is a company. There
are chareholders, there are people who work there. Um Americans.
By the way, just be very clear, there are American
employees of TikTok. I think people also also forget that. Um,
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this isn't like a bunch of people just sitting around
in Beijing. We're operating this app. There's a whole US
US presence for it. And I'm just seeing this whether
Rand Paul has come out against it, and this has
been my thing all along, that it is. He says
it mimics censorship by the Chinese government. He cast a
question whether to ban the viral vide app as a
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free speech issue and said he would defend the app
even against members of his parties. According to NBC, what
I've been saying too, if they that's why I brought
up Russia today. It's the government to say, oh, we
don't like this app. We think it's bad for kids
for their like long term thought process. It's like, well, okay,
but it's not worse for them than Instagram or Facebook.
It's not for anybody. Where I come down buck is,
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I don't believe they can actually ban it, right, So
I don't believe that the United States can ban this
app from existing because so many one hundred and fifty
million people already have it on their phone. Are you
telling me that your fourteen year old is not going
to be smart enough to figure out how to continue
to use TikTok. I think what this is designed to
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do is a leverage play, and they're trying to force
this to be sold to an American company. So I
don't think there's any way it goes to an And
the leverage play is like how does this who buys it?
I think is one of the challenging parts. But that
I think the actual idea of hey, we're gonna ban
it is virtually impossible, and it's about trying to force
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China to sell this company. And there's some text also,
so there's the issue of arbitrary. This is arbitrary, say
it's arbitrary and capricious to just ban TikTok, And as
I've said to everybody from the beginning of this, the
social media companies that are owned by Americans here in
America are worse for your kids and a bigger threat
to your freedom than TikTok. And I've very few people
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really push back on that. When they think it through,
they go, yeah, wait a second, what happened with before
Elon bought it? Twitter and the election and Facebook? And
what is YouTube doing all the time, and how does
that algorithm work? And what are they pushing. Are they
pushing a lot of constitutionalism on YouTube these days? They
are not. But then there's also the overreach component of this.
So there's a censorship concern, which rand Paul and Red
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Paul had come through from me on this one. And
then there's also what's in the text of what they're
calling the restrict Act. I think that's the name I
was trying to remember, you know, they have to give
there's some serious sounding name to every bill these days,
like the Anti Inflation Act that doesn't actually reduce inflation
tally increases why one point four trillion or one point
two trillion, according to the most recent estimates. Who wonder
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who told you that it's anti inflation and that it
increases inflation. John Button fell for that one. Huh, this
is we're not forgetting that one on this show. Yeah,
Joe Mansion, We're not forgetting what he did. But here
we go with the text from the restrict Act. This
was shared by Greg Price, who's a conservative, you know
Twitter presence. In general, the Secretary and Consulate sorry, the
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heading is addressing information and Communication technology products and services
that pose undue or unacceptable risk. The Secretary, in consultation
with the relevant executive department and agency heads, is authorized
to and shall take action to identify, deter, disrupt, prevent, prohibit, investigate,
or otherwise mitigate, including by negotiating, negotiating, entering into, or
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imposing and enforcing any mitigation measure to address any risk
arising from any covered transaction by any person or with
respect to any property subject to the jurisdiction of the
United States that the Secretary determines. So information and communication
technology products, the federal government can basically just say, yeah,
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we think there's some risk from this, and so we're
gonna do whatever we want to. You I don't think
that's a good idea. It's very expansive the way that
it's being drafted, which is why again I think ultimately
this is about forcing a sale. I would be stunned
if they and if they did it buck, I just
I feel like my fifteen year old in five minutes
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would figure out how to continue to use TikTok on
his electronic devices. Right. How did the band even? I mean,
this isn't you know? How would the banners? Apple would
probably have to put an update and if the phone
companies have to put an update that I would strip
it from your phone because other people I don't think
they could strip it from the phone. I think what
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would happen is that they would not a b You
wouldn't be able to continue to update it. And if
you don't update apps, eventually they become they don't function anymore.
That's like the laziest, most ridiculous band I've ever heard of. Yah. Yeah,
it's a ban on being a my understanding, it's a
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band on you being able to continue to update your app,
which eventually will render it unfund lack. I won't function anymore.
This is like whenever I try to play call of
duty during during the UH the COVID pandemic, and I
would have to spend like days just updating that thing. Man,
is what happens. They get all these new you know,
all these you guys. Some of you know exactly what
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I'm talking about. Bible, it was like a book. I
don't play call of duty really during COVID you weren't
playing any call of duty. I don't believe. I don't
think people know about it just because they have to
update their iPhones and how often do you update your iPhone?
It doesn't work as well as it did before. My
iPhone is amazing. It is programmed to want to update
when I'm getting when I'm like desperately trying to find
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something and I'm driving in my car and now my
phone stops working, or if someone calls me and it's important,
my iPhone then starts bothering me it up. It's amazing
how it does that. Yeah, it's amazing. It seems to
know it almost. It's special like that. You know, we
are busy people here like you. We get a lot
of done, a lot done during the day, which requires
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v I have you ever thought? Have you thought you
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even married a long time? Like I haven't even been
married for a few months now, and I don't think
i've done that in I think I was probably thirty
the last time I did that. It's been a long time,
maybe even like late twenties. I actually stood in line.
It's funny you mentioned this. I stood in line probably
two months ago to get in a to get into place.
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And what what how do you break this to me
on air? We have a place? Story wasn't it wasn't
like a club, all right? So it wasn't a club.
It was like, it wasn't Yeah it was a strip club.
It was uh, it was a it was a transgender
story hour. Um it was uh. I was trying to
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to go meet a friend and I don't know, there's
like ten people outside, and I didn't want to try
to skip the line. Because I'm conscious of like somebody
being like, oh, Clay Travis thinks he's so big time
and uh, and so I stood like there's like ten people.
So I stood in line, uh and waited to get in,
and you know, of course people came by and like
two different people were like, hey, what's going on, you know,
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like to see me standing in line. So that there
was like two months ago I stood in line to
get into a it was a it was a bar,
but it was just kind of like a random Friday
or Saturday in Nashville, and I did stand in line
at some point. I'm trying to remember what the college
town was to get in on a college football game
day weekend this past fall, I was going to meet
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a buddy and he was in there and there was
like twenty people in line. I was like, I told
him I'd come have a beer with him. So I
stood in line there. But in general, I despise lines.
I will I will not wait in line to go anywhere.
So that that's the that's the answer to your question.
Why what was there a big line the dispute or
dilemma here? Um no, No, Well, I was just thinking
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about VIP and I started thinking about how you know,
there was always all these all these clubs, especially in
New York City, there was for a long time a
big business in these nightclubs, and you always they wanted
to sell you like VIP access and they would sell
you a bottle. I don't know how many people across
the country have really experienced this. They have us in
a lot. I mean, they have similar things in like
Charleston and you know where you buy a bottle and
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you get But they would sell at nightclubs in New
York when I was a teenager, not that I was
going to nightclubs before I was twenty one, of course,
that would never think of such things that would be
against the law. But they would sell a bottle of
absolute vodka in these places for thousand bucks. Yea thousand
dollars for a bottle of vodka that they paid. That
was but that was pre really pre internet era. Now
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I'm really feeling old, and I just think that now
guys used to in major cities, they would spend crazy
money to be in a place where they thought there'd
be attractive single women and they would have a good
sort of chance of getting to talk to them, even
though the worst place to meet a woman, and I
can speak to this from my sing days anywhere where
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you have to shout over music really hard, correct really hard,
unless you are so handsome that you don't need to
speak and like have any game, which was never my situation.
The worst place is in a really crowded place. But
now everyone just everyone just meets everybody else you know
online on Instagram, like you don't have to go to
It has dramatically changed mating in America that people don't
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have to just go to a bar or a nightclub
and be like, I wonder if there are going to
be some single people there for me to talk to.
Everyone just slides into dms on Instagram. That still happens.
But I also think there's still a lot of rich
guys out there that want to pay for a bottle
service so they can just yell at pretty girls walking
by they can come up and have a drink. Still,
I still think that that is a because then you
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can be like, hey, what's your Instagram? And then you
have an easy entree. You don't have to ask for
phone numbers anymore. You just be like, you know, whatever,
the girl is, what's our Every girl on the planet.
Who's good looking has an Instagram page, right, I mean,
it's almost unheard of for them not to. And I'll
tell all my guy friends. If it's not a professional
Instagram page, she's got more than fifty thousand followers. You
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know you're in you're in for It's gonna be an
interesting process, the dating process, that's all. I was out
with a single guy at the Super Bowl and he said,
I have refused. I refuse to date any girl that
has more than twenty five hundred Instagram followers because that
means they're like professionally hot and they're not normal in
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too much male attention, too much male attention, it's it
pollutes the mind. I'm just saying. I'm just saying the
guys out there, the married ladies they know, they know
too that this is the with the younger generation and
everything else. But the guys in particular, they know it's. Man,
it's a crazy world out there in the dating game.
That's all I'm saying. We don't really talk about this
very much on the show. But anyway, I haven't been
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to a velvet rope situation for a long time. But
there's no velvet rope on Clay and Buck. You guys
can listen to us anytime you like. What a transition
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Right now, spring break for a lot of people coming
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left until school gets out down here in the South
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late May mid May. Many places out there. I know,
we start early, finish early, so you'll be able to
find us anywhere. So a couple of different things that
are out there that I want to update you on.
There is a report now been confirmed by it appears
many multi multiple media outlets that is that there's going
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to be a one month break on the Donald Trump
grand jury investigation. This would mean that the earliest that
Donald Trump could theoretically face criminal charges in New York
City over the one hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment
to Stormy Daniels would be late April. Buck As we discussed,
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there's also a strong possibility that Alvin Bragg, the DA
in New York City, is trying to dial back the
expectation that he's going to bring charges. One way to
dial back that expectation is to just interject a few
months between when the charges were expected and what is
going on right now. And so I think you have
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to consider, particularly because the earliest would be late April,
that we may be looking at an abandonment of this
case now. Doesn't mean that Georgia might not rear its head.
Doesn't mean that the Department of Justice may not decide
to do something. Although both of us think that's less
likely in terms of the Department of Justice. So that information,
I believe is fairly consequential and important. That is the latest.
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There We continue and you agree I think with that
in general. Absolutely. Can I just give you a little
bit of breaking news from about the last fifteen minutes.
This is from Ben Williamson, who was in the Trump
previously the Trump White House and in the Mark Meadows
Congressional office. He's DC based guy, and he just says
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that while he retweeted this rather that there have been
in the last hour, two reported attempted carjackings in Washington, DC.
And according to this account, while the Democrats in the
Oversight Committee were complaining about, you know, the way the
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DC crime has has been handled, etc. There was a
at First Street and an I in southeast DC. A
carjacker tried to ram officers and hit three automobiles. So,
while they're on Capitol Hill talking about things like, hey,
maybe we shouldn't have smaller punishments or lesser punishments for carjackings,
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a carjacking was attempted about half a mile away from
the Capitol. Yeah, that's perfect. I think DC's got some
problems yeah, carjackings very serious crime. And it is, like
you said in the last hour, up one hundred percent,
which is flat out unbelievable. So did you do you
care about the Chris Christie thing? By the way, I
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just want to I want to ask you this, does
this matter to you at all, that Chris Christie saying
he might get into the race just so we could
go after Trump? Or is this a total non event?
I don't think anybody cares about Chris Christie. Yeah, like
it's it's akin to to me. The only person who
could beat Trump is Rhn de Santis and Chris Christie
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had a moment. His moment has passed, and I know
he went and tried to take out did take out
Marco Rubio? If you remember from back in twenty sixteen,
he basically suicide vested Marco Rubio. I think Trump. I
think Trump took out Marco Rubio. I don't think. I
wouldn't give Chris Christie that much credit. I mean, it
was a bad moment for him, but yeah, in the debate,
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you know, basically calling him a robot, I thought, yeah,
that Marco Rubio was effectively done at that point. But
that was when Chris Christie still had a little bit
of juice. I feel like, if Trump is smart, he'll
just ignore Chris Christie and say, like, nobody cares really
about your opinion. I understand why Chris Christie would want
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a feud with Trump, but it feels like Trump would
be put punching down to a massive degree to even
care what Chris Christie says. I guess just the analysis
that people have started to push around a little bit
would be if you had if you had Chris Christie
whose only job was to just say the things about
Trump that no other Republicans willing to say. How does
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that No one thinks Chris Christie is going to be president.
This is just a vendetta thing for him personally. So
he'll get up there and he'll say the stuff that
no Republican will say to Trump because the Republican base
doesn't want to hear it. Oh. I think the santisis,
if he's gonna beat Trump, has to say really nasty thing.
You think he's gonna have to get into it. I
think I think the only way to Santis beats Trump
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is if he looks right at Trump and says, you're
a loser. You lost to Joe Biden, and you'll lose
to him again in twenty twenty four. I think that's
the only way that DeSantis wins. And the reason why
I think that would work for de Santis is I
think it would lead Trump back into his twenty twenty
stolen election. He rings, which most people don't want to hear.
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I understand if you're the diehard Trump base, and I
agree the election was rigged. Trump got screwed in twenty twenty.
I don't dispute that at all. But if DeSantis has
to on the stage, face to face with Trump say
you are a loser. You lost in twenty twenty, and
you are going to lose worse in twenty twenty four,
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there's a reason Democrats want you as the choice. I
don't know DeSantis necessarily has the stones to do it,
but I think that's the only way he beats Trump
is by really staring him straight down in the face
and saying, I'm a better option than you. You lost
in twenty twenty to the worst president than any of
us have ever seen in our lives, and you're gonna
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lose to him again if you're the nominee. That's nasty.
I think it would get Trump really angry, because the
one thing Trump doesn't want to hear is he's a loser.
But I think that's the only way that de Santis
can beat Trump. You agree or disagree, you think he
has to go or you think I don't think you can,
like you know, sort of pirouet your way around the
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eight hundred pound gorilla. I think if you're gonna win,
you have to walk right up and you know, just
basically slap the gorilla in the face and you just
got to have the fight. In my opinion, that's the
only way to Santis wins. First, he has to actually announced.
That's announced. But my point is if Chris Christie tries
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to do that, or Mike Pence is not gonna do it,
or Nicky Haley or Tim Scott or any of those guys,
I don't think they have the cajonas to step into
the ring and actually say that to and it matter right,
Like there's low low level like I don't know if
if if Liz Cheney decides to run, which I think
she will, and then she's gonna run as an independent
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and try to steal the election, all those things, nobody's
gonna care what Liz Cheney says to Trump, right, I mean,
Chris Christie is to be fair funnier. I would think
that Liz Cheney, right, I mean Jersey guy, right, he's
a New Jersey guy. He probably got a little more
funny things to see. Liz Cheney came on this show,
(08:29):
and she only came on to tell jokes, which her
career kind of is. But let's pretend that she's actually
telling jokes. I don't think she could make you or
me laugh, like so, I don't think that Liz Cheney
like has a high charisma connection. I do remember there
was that moment where Chris Christie, and you can go
back and watch some of these videos, he was he
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was great at one thing that you would see him doing,
and it was laying into the teachers unions in New Jersey,
which were a total public sector cartel. I'm sure this
is back in back. Yeah, of course, true, true. So
the other side of this didn't change, but those videos
were that was right in the tea party era. I
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remember that he was doing a good job with that
um But yeah, and look, he's not a serious contender
for the presidency. I just think it's interesting from a
political dynamics of the primary, if you had he is
a brawler. He's a brawler, right, So does that in
any way affect I'm just doing. I just think if
Trump is smart, it's like you don't get close to
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somebody who has a strong right hand, you know. I
mean from a from a sports analogy, like you just
kind of just give him a little jab every now
and then and just kind of keep it. He can
just basic he could actually just pretty much ignore and
be like the guy as a loser. That's probably what
That's probably how he does it, how he runs it. Yeah,
and I also think I think the counter you know,
punch that's pretty strong. If you decide you want to
engage with Chris Christie is why would anybody pay attention
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to you? Chris Christie, you guarantee that Obama won re
election in twenty twelve by embracing him in the wake
of the hurricane was it Sandy? I mean, I think
you can make an argument that that is what helped
put Obama over the finish line, given how close to
twenty twelve was. So if Trump just says you can
say whatever you want, Chris Christy, you're the reason Obama
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got reelected. I think it really kind of cuts a
lot of his legs out from underneath him. We live
in interesting times, political Clay, So what do you I
didn't mean to divert It's a really good question. I
want to play. Let me play this audio and then
I'll let we'll react to it a little bit, because
I did want to update. We still have not gotten
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the transgender manifesto. I am told that that is going
to be released. It has not happened today. I think
the longer it takes, the more people out there say,
why are we not releasing this manifesto? Because every crazy
other shooter manifesto people it comes out and then Trump
gets blamed for it or whatever else it is. I
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just was a complete this notion, and obviously you saw
my tweet on this. I completely disagree that it should
be the government's purview to prevent us from understanding the
psychopathic reality of some of these mass killers. Because we
talk about mental health and how we can address these things,
how we can stop a future shooting. Well, if the
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public can't know, how can we have any conversation? How
can we expect our leaders to respond to our desires? Anyway,
that's the whole we can get into this. I think
there's no there's no basis that is compelling to me
at all for delay, and certainly for ongoing suppression of
you for the long term. I think it's crazy. I
would just ask you, how would people be responding if
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in my home city of Nashville someone had shown up
at a trans event and shot six trans people, compared
to a trans person showing up at a religious elementary
school and killing six people. It's a hate crime. Here's
Josh Holly, Senator from Missouri saying that, and he's one
of the few that feels like is actually saying it.
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Listen to cut nine. We'll react to it when we
come back. I call on this body, every member of
this body, to condemn, in the clearest of terms, this
hate crime against this community in Nashville. Today, I will
introduce a resolution explicitly condemning this massacre as the hate
crime that it is, and calling upon this body to
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condemn hateful rhetoric that leads to violence, hateful rhetoric against
religious believers, religious institutions, religious communities that leads to violence.
This isn't speculation. This is a tragic fact, it has
happened before our eyes and we must condemn it. We'll
talk about it when we come back. Senator Josh Holly.
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Is it a hate crime? Why are we not seeing
this manifesto all that and more? I mean, I think
it's domestic terrorism. By the way, if we're going to
have a label for domestic terrorism, this looks like domestic
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were just talking before about how there's still no manifesto
for the public to see about this shooter in Nashville
who killed six innocence, the trans shooter who, despite what
(14:41):
Reuters is trying to indicate, it seems very likely based
on and Routers said this was a Christian student, as
if that has something to do with what happened here.
This students former student, I should say, the shooter was
also considering other targets, including family members, including other sites,
including locations that have nothing to do with Christianity. The
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police haven't given us the full the full set of
possible or considered targets. This was a premeditated murder. But
I would also argue that based on the fact that
there's an almost certain ideological component to this, it is
political violence and the furtherance of a political agenda, which
is the classic and enduring definition of terrorism. Now, we
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often will use this term to will say domestic terrorism
clay to separate it. And there were debates about this
even in the CIA, and debates about this in the
various intelligence community branches about how to talk about these things,
what terminology to use. We'll remember, even during the Obama administration,
we're all supposed to say isole. Do you remember that?
Oh yeah, that was a big fight in the in
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the intelligence community because they kept wanting the public to
say isol instead of ISIS, and everyone kept saying isis.
So you know, this stuff they get into, obviously the
semantics of it at some level. Two, But they say
domestic terrorism because they want to separate it from foreign
inspired the hottest terrorism usually or having an international international
entity nexus to it. But this to me is classic
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domestic terrorism. I don't really know what we have to
see here other than the specifics in the manifesto, but
based on the targets that were chosen here and the
very clear signs of an ideological radicalization, and you can
argue that it's a hate crime as well, though I
think that the broader targets that indicate to me more
domestic terrorism than hate crime. But at some point, also
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as long as there's an understanding of what's really at
stake here and what really happened, the specific terminology between
hate crime and domestic terrorism, I think both are applicable.
And don't you think that we need that manifesto released?
And I understand if they have to redact some portions
of it for a variety of reasons before it's released,
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It needs to be released sooner rather than later, because
I think Ashville Police Department has done themselves a ton
of favors with the videos that they put out, with
the response, with the alacrity with which they put this
information out there. But the longer we don't get a
clear motivation for why this occurred, the more people out
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there feel as if there's being something hidden, it becomes
a political decision instead of a public safety decision. We
should know why this happened. If we're going to try
to prevent, if we're going to try to understand how
to prevent, you have to understand the full scope of
what occurred here. And there is no, in my mind,
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no real reason to hold it back other than the
belief that this may You know that they can't trust
the public with this information because it will lead to
bad outcomes. Well, that's a government excuse for all kinds
of censorship. That's unacceptable. So the manifesto must come out,
and there must be pressure to get it out sooner
than later. I completely agree with you on that as well.
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if you're interested in helping out the six Nashville victims
of the schools shooting. I've shared at least three fundraiser
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to do so. You can seek them out, at least
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scroll down through there. Okay, But big topic of discussion
has continued to be whether or not TikTok should be banned.
(20:06):
We were talking about this off air. H We've got
a big article up and OutKick one of our writers
did a deep dive on what exactly is happening, what
the impact could be. And you were against TikTok being
banned when we discussed it. I think it was on
Monday or Friday earlier this week, I think, right. I
think it's like it's like me an AOC Yeah, but yeah,
(20:28):
you and Jamal Bowman there and the Democrat left wing
Democrat congressman, I understand your Greenwald. He's also suspicious and
thank you out there. Um, and so my biggest thing
and I saw this and I wanted to add to
that conversation as it is continuing to grow, because it
appears I saw a poll that came out yesterday that
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showed Democrats, Republicans, and Independence were all in favor of
banning TikTok. And my argument was the thing that bothers
me the most about TikTok in general. And this is
a Wall Street Journal article that I saw. Do you
know right now in America, the most downloaded free mobile
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apps in the United States, the top four are all
Chinese owned. A lot of people focusing on TikTok. This
is what I've been saying. Something called Temu. There's something
called cap cut, which I actually am familiar with. I
didn't know China owned it. My twelve year old and
(21:36):
maybe some of you out there have kids or grandkids
who do this as well. Will make like highlight videos
and you can cut them using different video feeds. The
cap cut is the most famous way to do that
for a YouTube short or for a TikTok or something
like that. And then something else called Shine. Now, all
four of those, the four most downloaded apps in the
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United States right now in this past week, all Chinese owned.
And again that's data from Sorry, I said, Wall Street
Journals actually axios with that data. My biggest issue is
not whether or not TikTok should be banned Buck, It's
that China is not allowing any of our top companies
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access to their markets, and meanwhile they are coming in
here and hoovering up massive audiences in data in the
United States. And there's an argument that one reason why
China is being so successful is they have over a
billion people to be testing their algorithms on in China,
perfecting them, and then bringing them here when they can
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ensure that they are at their most viral and at
their most popular, and then they're competing with American company.
So you can't go on Google, you can't go on YouTube,
you can't go on Twitter, you can't go on Facebook.
They don't allow our largest companies Instagram to compete in China,
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and then they're allowed to come over here and compete
in our markets. I find that's what upsets me. But
so here here's the issue. I mean, that's all true.
I think the issue though, becomes so why does TikTok
get sacrificed in this bargain? Right? Well, why do other
come all these other companies get to keep doing business
in China, but because you know, we're gonna block great
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And that's where I said, like nobody's calling them ban
the iPhone, right, I mean, so so everyone else gets
to keep doing business in China, but oh they won't
let us into their markets, so we're gonna ban TikTok.
Like you know, it seems this is a company. There
are chareholders, there are people who work there. Um Americans.
By the way, just be very clear, there are American
employees of TikTok. I think people also also forget that. Um,
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this isn't like a bunch of people just sitting around
in Beijing. We're operating this app. There's a whole US
US presence for it. And I'm just seeing this whether
Rand Paul has come out against it, and this has
been my thing all along, that it is. He says
it mimics censorship by the Chinese government. He cast a
question whether to ban the viral vide app as a
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free speech issue and said he would defend the app
even against members of his parties. According to NBC, what
I've been saying too, if they that's why I brought
up Russia today. It's the government to say, oh, we
don't like this app. We think it's bad for kids
for their like long term thought process. It's like, well, okay,
but it's not worse for them than Instagram or Facebook.
It's not for anybody. Where I come down buck is,
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I don't believe they can actually ban it, right, So
I don't believe that the United States can ban this
app from existing because so many one hundred and fifty
million people already have it on their phone. Are you
telling me that your fourteen year old is not going
to be smart enough to figure out how to continue
to use TikTok. I think what this is designed to
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do is a leverage play, and they're trying to force
this to be sold to an American company. So I
don't think there's any way it goes to an And
the leverage play is like how does this who buys it?
I think is one of the challenging parts. But that
I think the actual idea of hey, we're gonna ban
it is virtually impossible, and it's about trying to force
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China to sell this company. And there's some text also,
so there's the issue of arbitrary. This is arbitrary, say
it's arbitrary and capricious to just ban TikTok, And as
I've said to everybody from the beginning of this, the
social media companies that are owned by Americans here in
America are worse for your kids and a bigger threat
to your freedom than TikTok. And I've very few people
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really push back on that. When they think it through,
they go, yeah, wait a second, what happened with before
Elon bought it? Twitter and the election and Facebook? And
what is YouTube doing all the time, and how does
that algorithm work? And what are they pushing. Are they
pushing a lot of constitutionalism on YouTube these days? They
are not. But then there's also the overreach component of this.
So there's a censorship concern, which rand Paul and Red
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Paul had come through from me on this one. And
then there's also what's in the text of what they're
calling the restrict Act. I think that's the name I
was trying to remember, you know, they have to give
there's some serious sounding name to every bill these days,
like the Anti Inflation Act that doesn't actually reduce inflation
tally increases why one point four trillion or one point
two trillion, according to the most recent estimates. Who wonder
(26:17):
who told you that it's anti inflation and that it
increases inflation. John Button fell for that one. Huh, this
is we're not forgetting that one on this show. Yeah,
Joe Mansion, We're not forgetting what he did. But here
we go with the text from the restrict Act. This
was shared by Greg Price, who's a conservative, you know
Twitter presence. In general, the Secretary and Consulate sorry, the
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heading is addressing information and Communication technology products and services
that pose undue or unacceptable risk. The Secretary, in consultation
with the relevant executive department and agency heads, is authorized
to and shall take action to identify, deter, disrupt, prevent, prohibit, investigate,
or otherwise mitigate, including by negotiating, negotiating, entering into, or
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imposing and enforcing any mitigation measure to address any risk
arising from any covered transaction by any person or with
respect to any property subject to the jurisdiction of the
United States that the Secretary determines. So information and communication
technology products, the federal government can basically just say, yeah,
(27:29):
we think there's some risk from this, and so we're
gonna do whatever we want to. You I don't think
that's a good idea. It's very expansive the way that
it's being drafted, which is why again I think ultimately
this is about forcing a sale. I would be stunned
if they and if they did it buck, I just
I feel like my fifteen year old in five minutes
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would figure out how to continue to use TikTok on
his electronic devices. Right. How did the band even? I mean,
this isn't you know? How would the banners? Apple would
probably have to put an update and if the phone
companies have to put an update that I would strip
it from your phone because other people I don't think
they could strip it from the phone. I think what
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would happen is that they would not a b You
wouldn't be able to continue to update it. And if
you don't update apps, eventually they become they don't function anymore.
That's like the laziest, most ridiculous band I've ever heard of. Yah. Yeah,
it's a ban on being a my understanding, it's a
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band on you being able to continue to update your app,
which eventually will render it unfund lack. I won't function anymore.
This is like whenever I try to play call of
duty during during the UH the COVID pandemic, and I
would have to spend like days just updating that thing. Man,
is what happens. They get all these new you know,
all these you guys. Some of you know exactly what
(28:53):
I'm talking about. Bible, it was like a book. I
don't play call of duty really during COVID you weren't
playing any call of duty. I don't believe. I don't
think people know about it just because they have to
update their iPhones and how often do you update your iPhone?
It doesn't work as well as it did before. My
iPhone is amazing. It is programmed to want to update
when I'm getting when I'm like desperately trying to find
(29:14):
something and I'm driving in my car and now my
phone stops working, or if someone calls me and it's important,
my iPhone then starts bothering me it up. It's amazing
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a good good place to be VI I P there
we go. What was the last time you stood in
a line at a club with a velvet rope? Mister
v I have you ever thought? Have you thought you
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even married a long time? Like I haven't even been
married for a few months now, and I don't think
i've done that in I think I was probably thirty
the last time I did that. It's been a long time,
maybe even like late twenties. I actually stood in line.
It's funny you mentioned this. I stood in line probably
two months ago to get in a to get into place.
(32:26):
And what what how do you break this to me
on air? We have a place? Story wasn't it wasn't
like a club, all right? So it wasn't a club.
It was like, it wasn't Yeah it was a strip club.
It was uh, it was a it was a transgender
story hour. Um it was uh. I was trying to
(32:50):
to go meet a friend and I don't know, there's
like ten people outside, and I didn't want to try
to skip the line. Because I'm conscious of like somebody
being like, oh, Clay Travis thinks he's so big time
and uh, and so I stood like there's like ten people.
So I stood in line, uh and waited to get in,
and you know, of course people came by and like
two different people were like, hey, what's going on, you know,
(33:12):
like to see me standing in line. So that there
was like two months ago I stood in line to
get into a it was a it was a bar,
but it was just kind of like a random Friday
or Saturday in Nashville, and I did stand in line
at some point. I'm trying to remember what the college
town was to get in on a college football game
day weekend this past fall, I was going to meet
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a buddy and he was in there and there was
like twenty people in line. I was like, I told
him I'd come have a beer with him. So I
stood in line there. But in general, I despise lines.
I will I will not wait in line to go anywhere.
So that that's the that's the answer to your question.
Why what was there a big line the dispute or
dilemma here? Um no, No, Well, I was just thinking
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about VIP and I started thinking about how you know,
there was always all these all these clubs, especially in
New York City, there was for a long time a
big business in these nightclubs, and you always they wanted
to sell you like VIP access and they would sell
you a bottle. I don't know how many people across
the country have really experienced this. They have us in
a lot. I mean, they have similar things in like
Charleston and you know where you buy a bottle and
(34:17):
you get But they would sell at nightclubs in New
York when I was a teenager, not that I was
going to nightclubs before I was twenty one, of course,
that would never think of such things that would be
against the law. But they would sell a bottle of
absolute vodka in these places for thousand bucks. Yea thousand
dollars for a bottle of vodka that they paid. That
was but that was pre really pre internet era. Now
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I'm really feeling old, and I just think that now
guys used to in major cities, they would spend crazy
money to be in a place where they thought there'd
be attractive single women and they would have a good
sort of chance of getting to talk to them, even
though the worst place to meet a woman, and I
can speak to this from my sing days anywhere where
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you have to shout over music really hard, correct really hard,
unless you are so handsome that you don't need to
speak and like have any game, which was never my situation.
The worst place is in a really crowded place. But
now everyone just everyone just meets everybody else you know
online on Instagram, like you don't have to go to
It has dramatically changed mating in America that people don't
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have to just go to a bar or a nightclub
and be like, I wonder if there are going to
be some single people there for me to talk to.
Everyone just slides into dms on Instagram. That still happens.
But I also think there's still a lot of rich
guys out there that want to pay for a bottle
service so they can just yell at pretty girls walking
by they can come up and have a drink. Still,
I still think that that is a because then you
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can be like, hey, what's your Instagram? And then you
have an easy entree. You don't have to ask for
phone numbers anymore. You just be like, you know, whatever,
the girl is, what's our Every girl on the planet.
Who's good looking has an Instagram page, right, I mean,
it's almost unheard of for them not to. And I'll
tell all my guy friends. If it's not a professional
Instagram page, she's got more than fifty thousand followers. You
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know you're in you're in for It's gonna be an
interesting process, the dating process, that's all. I was out
with a single guy at the Super Bowl and he said,
I have refused. I refuse to date any girl that
has more than twenty five hundred Instagram followers because that
means they're like professionally hot and they're not normal in
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too much male attention, too much male attention, it's it
pollutes the mind. I'm just saying. I'm just saying the
guys out there, the married ladies they know, they know
too that this is the with the younger generation and
everything else. But the guys in particular, they know it's. Man,
it's a crazy world out there in the dating game.
That's all I'm saying. We don't really talk about this
very much on the show. But anyway, I haven't been
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to a velvet rope situation for a long time. But
there's no velvet rope on Clay and Buck. You guys
can listen to us anytime you like. What a transition
to close the show. We'll see you, Ah and Breed
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