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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a
listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
This is the best of with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We're about as far apart as we can nearly be
in the continental United States. Buck down in Miami, I'm
out in LA. We are covering the country from the
east coast to the west coast, making sure that all
of you are as informed and entertained we hope as
we can possibly make you every single day. And then

(00:32):
we're sitting here two weeks after the election. California still
has not finished counting its votes. It's unacceptable. It needs
to be resolved. I say that as someone sitting here
in California right now. But Buck, now that it's been
two weeks, a lot of the data is out, and
the biggest move that occurred from twenty twenty to twenty

(00:54):
twenty four in terms of groups voting is young men, White, Black,
Asian and Hispanic under the age of thirty overwhelmingly moved
to vote and support Donald Trump. Many of you out
there listening to us right now, may have kids, may
have grandkids that were a part of this group voting

(01:17):
for the very first time. Some of you are listening
to us right now and you voted in an election
for the very first time, and you voted for.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Trump and Buck.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I wrote last night when I was flying to La
a column that is up at OutKick right now. I
shared it from my Twitter. We'll link it up at
Clayanbuck dot com. But I've been thinking a lot about
as these Trump celebrations have happened. You saw John Jones
doing the Trump dance last night, Christian Pulistic, the soccer player,
did it. Lots of different NFL players, Detroit Lyons, San

(01:51):
Francisco forty nine Ers, Tennessee Titans, basically the Las Vegas
Raiders all over the country. Young men athletes in particular
are saying, we're Trump guys and we're not apologizing for it.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
How did this happen?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
How did suddenly it become so incredibly cool for young
men to be Trump supporters?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think Trump ran a great campaign. He was intelligent
in reaching out to these young guys by doing Joe Rogan,
by doing THEO Vaughn, by doing OutKick. Honestly, Aiden Ross,
I think is the guy's name. Lots of people who
are younger than I am, and then you are, Buck,
and we're pretty young to be having the jobs that

(02:35):
we have are being really impactful when it comes to
young men and.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
How they voted.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
And I've got a thesis for you, and it's been
building for some time, and I'm curious if you buy it.
Imagine that you were fifteen or sixteen years old when
COVID happened. I think younger men this is true too,
But those kids like my kids now they're fourteen and sixteen,
they live through COVID. But Buck, just follow me here

(03:01):
and see if you buy it.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
This is my thesis.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
If you were told, hey, you can't go to school anymore,
you can't play sports, you can't go to prom, you
can't go on to the mall, you can't hang out
with your buddies. You got to stay at home. You
can't go see grandpa or grandma if they're sick in
the hospital because you might kill them. You can't go

(03:25):
to their funeral. You got to wear a mask outdoors
to play football whenever you're allowed to play. To play soccer,
you gotta wear a mask to play basketball, because you
might die from this virus, which actually has no statistical
chance of killing you. If all of the adults in
your life and the authority figures told you that and

(03:49):
you found out that it wasn't true, I think you'd
be angry. And if simultaneously you were being told that
men were the root of all evil, that masculinity was toxic,
you would start to look around, and you might have
a profound BS detector. And also you might start to

(04:11):
look and find Clay and Buck on social media or OutKick,
or you might find Jordan Peterson. You might find Ben Shapiro,
you might find Joe Rogan. You might find a lot
of male voices out there telling you that you weren't
actually responsible for anything other than what you did. And
you might have started to look at Donald Trump, who,

(04:34):
if you're a young man, you had been told was
racist and sexist and totally unacceptable. And then on July thirteenth,
you saw Trump nearly get shot, and you saw him
rise up and say fight, fight, fight, in what I
think is the most alpha male moment in the history

(04:55):
of the United States presidency. And you might have started
looking around saying, wait a minute, Trump is actually a
male figure that I would aspire to be part of.
And let me give you two more little clips here, Buck,
because I'm raising boys right now. About four years ago
or so, I was with my then ten year old
in Target and we walked in I think we were

(05:17):
going to buy football cards, and there were girl power
shirts everywhere, and my ten year old turned to me
and he said, Dad, how come there's never boy power
shirts anywhere? He said they would never. Target would never
sell a shirt that said boy power. Why can girls
all walk around saying yay girl power? And we're not

(05:40):
allowed to be proud to be men?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Boys? Is what he said. I never would have thought
about it.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Another one of my kids' friends was over and I
wrote about this because it in retrospect makes a lot
of sense.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Buck.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
He said, I was in class the other day and
one of our teachers was doing a whole thing on
how toxic masculinity is and how white men have caused
all these problems, and he said, I'm just over it.
He said, I'm twelve. I think it was a sixth
grader at the time. He's like, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.

(06:14):
How can I be the cause of everything that's gone
wrong in America.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm just a twelve year old kid.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I think these.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Boys have seen through the BS and this is one
reason Buck, I'm so optimistic going forward. I think that
they are.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Going to be.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Absolutely the foundation of the Republican Party going forward, White, Black,
Asian and Hispanic because they're over the BS. And I
think that's why they moved so much to Trump in
twenty twenty four. A lot of these guys are just
voting for the first time.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Do you buy it.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
They're angry about COVID, They're angry about what they've been
told about masculinity.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
They think it's BS.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Look, if you're a guy, let's just say you know
twelve to twenty five right now, right so you're you know,
you're aware of what's in the new well. I mean, obviously,
twelve year old's very very different perspective from twenty five
year olds. But you know, a young man in the
world today in America, who do you look up to
on the Democrat side? You know, I'll tell you one

(07:14):
thing that has changed dramatically in our in our culture.
I don't think people look up to actors at all anymore. Yeah,
I think that that. I think because of social media
and because of the change also in the power dynamic
in Hollywood, where now you know, who really runs the
entertainment industry, Netflix, Amazon, Apple, That's who runs the entertainment industry.

(07:36):
It's not even the big movie studios anymore. So the
era of I want to be George Clooney or I
want to be Brad Pitt when I grow up, I
think those guys are badasses and they're so cool. It's
not really not really a thing anymore. That's changed dramatically.
I think a lot of sports heroes or you know,
elevating people in the sports realm, it's changed, right. Doesn't

(07:57):
mean that there aren't people that look up to NBA players,
NFL players, UFC fighters, whomever. But because of social media,
we have seen that some of these people are jerks,
like Colin Kaepernick is a fraud and a jerky, and
you know, I think there are plenty of people who
might have, you know, liked him for the athlete he was,
et cetera. But when he showed what he really felt

(08:20):
about America, a lot of people reacted very negatively to it.
And when the NBA was you know, the NBA has
this habit of you know, standing against the police and
sometimes with criminals. You know, we've seen enough of this
now where if you're a young man looking for role models,
I don't mean role models is I want to be

(08:40):
like this person, but I want to aspire to their philosophy.
I like the way they view the world and what
they're trying to achieve. I do not think the Left
has anyone for you. I think that's where we are.
I do not think that anybody who is a pronoun
sharing male feminist who thinks that transgender men should play

(09:01):
in women's sports and wants to chant all the time
about girl power and wants to talk about the dangers
of white supremacy and things Christopher Columbus should be replaced
with you know, Native Indigenous People's Day or whatever. I
don't think an average thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, all the way
up to twenty five year old or whatever guy with
normal levels of testosterone, which, by the way, does affect

(09:23):
your brain and your outlook on life and what you
want to do. I don't think they see the Left
and they see anybody that they want to be like
or that they look up to. Right now, who's really prominent.
We don't look up to music acts the same way.
I mean, maybe some people do, but you know, rock stars.
A lot of the old rock stars now also look
a little kind of like weird and sad. They've gotten

(09:43):
really old. They're not giving it up. I don't know
if you saw Madonna recently, not that I was ever
a huge Madona fan, but you know, she needs an intervention.
I'm just saying I think that the heroes in this country,
it's changed a lot. And I think that some of
the people that are believing in MAGA to the essential point,
we're making our young men who view this as a

(10:04):
philosophy of America and their role in it. That makes
them proud, That makes them feel like there's something that
they should fight for and that they have a role,
that they have a purpose. You do not have purpose
if you're just some cognitive machine that walks around with
your shoulders slumped together. Being like I'm a male feminist,
you know you do not have purpose as a man

(10:25):
in that world.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, And I think buck the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt.
If you had said, oh, Trump's a fraud, Trump's a coward,
that argument went up in smoke. I don't know buck
how I would respond if I were speaking on a
stage and I came within a quarter inch of my
head being blown off. I don't know that I would

(10:47):
have been as brave as Trump and stood up and
immediately screamed fight, Fight, Fight. I don't think anybody knows
how they would respond in that moment. I think the
argument that Trump was sort of a deletant and he
didn't believe what he was saying it went away forever.
And I think what it goes to is young men
are desperately craving authenticity. They don't expect that they're going

(11:09):
to agree with you on everything, but we live. I
think everybody understands this in a profoundly and authentic age.
Instagram is BS. I don't even know how to work
a filter, but I've seen enough girls on Instagram who
look like they're twenty four's on the scale of one
to ten, and you see them in person, you're like, ah,
you know, you're really good at working the mechanics on that,

(11:30):
And I think they know.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
That it's BS, and I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I just ask my son about a guy, Andrew Tait,
I said, why do you like Andrew Tate, you know,
because there's criticisms about Andrew Tate. He said, well, what
I take from a dad is quit whining and do
more push ups. And I'm like, if you're fourteen, that's
not bad advice. Do quit whining and do more push
ups is actually a constructive thing that makes you a

(11:58):
better version of yourself, right, which is really what it's about.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
I also think we're at a phase of Trump and
the Trump phenomenon where now people if you look at
some of the great movers of history, I mean people
that were moving the levers of history in important and
powerful ways and over in a net positive way.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Not Stalin, He moved a lot of levers, but it
wasn't good. Yeah, But people that move levers in a
positive way. You know, you can look at them, and
I'm a big fan of reading biographies, right, you can
look at them and through the totality of what they
represented and what they accomplished and not feel the need
to have to say that everything about them is perfect

(12:40):
or awesome.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
And I think that a lot of people who have
supported Trump from the beginning, the left has always played
that the Democrats have always played this game of liy,
But what about but what about We know about the butt,
what about you know? We know about your objections. We
know that he's not perfect, nobody's perfect. We know that
he has some shortcomings. But when you see what he
has done, not just with this reelection win, but you

(13:03):
know how he reacted to the attempted assassination, I'm sorry,
but that's an image that is now seared into all
of our brains. I think we all recognize that that
was a moment in history that we will all remember,
and that could have been very different, very tragic. When
you see that he stood up against multiple indictments honestly,
like it was no big deal. Yeah, most people get
one felony indictment, and you know, they're having to put

(13:26):
them on like high high doses of you know, paxel
or zoloft or something just to get them to show
up to court because they're so terrified about what's going
to happen to them, and or lithium or something. And
Trump just sort of rolled over all this. There is
something about this that appeals to the masculine in all
of us.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I also one idea that I'd like for you guys
to think about as we go to break how do
we define people?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Because?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
But what about is so important? What you just said, Buck,
I think we're moving towards an era where we look
towards the ceiling as a posed to the floor. What
do I mean by that? Much of the deconstructive woke
era is about dragging people back to the worst version
of themselves. Oh yeah, Columbus discovered America, but he was

(14:12):
really mean to the indigenous people. You're dragging people to
the floor. The worst thing that they ever did defines them,
not the best. Most of human history is about aspiring
to be better than we are. Certainly the religious faith
is entirely predicated on it. In the Christian life, woke

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is about dragging people down to the worst and most
basist level of what they have done, as opposed to
ascending to the.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Best version of themselves.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And I think the ceiling versus the floor, we're moving
towards the Hey. Yeah, sometimes people do things that snink.
It doesn't mean that that's who they are. Let's aspire
to something more. And I think that's so innately powerful.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
For young men.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Aspire to be more than you are, bigger, stronger, faster,
do more pushups, read more books, be a better version
of yourself. That is what so many young men aspire to,
and I think they see that in some level in Trump.
That's my thesis. There's an article of about it. But
I do think it's worth contemplating if you've got young
boys or young grandsons out there that you're thinking about,

(15:21):
what they're rising to, what are they raising, what are
they aspiring to. Clay Travas here, Happy Thanksgiving from all
of us at the Clay Travis.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
And Buck Sexton Show.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Welcome back into Clay and Bock. We're gonna talk about
the blowback from the morning Joe walk back on Trump
is a Nazi, but he's not a Nazi. But they're
gonna have tea with them. But they still don't like him.
But hm, we'll get to that here coming up in
a minute. But first we got a call from Andy
in Tennessee. What's going on? Andy?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Gentlemen, thanks for taking Mike palm. I'm a Rush baby,
and you guys are doing a great job and I'm
sure Rush would be very proud of it.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
Proud of you, Thank you, thank you so much for.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
What thank you for what you do. So I have
two Boys twenty one and eighteen. They're actually back in
Kentucky but voted for the first time. And uh, you know,
I said, hey, I just want you to vote. I'm
not going to ask you who you voted for. And

(16:28):
they're like, Dad, I voted for Trump. Who do you
think I voted for? And I said, okay, good boy,
good boys. Uh but I said why And they said,
because I am constantly demeaned for being a guy.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Everywhere I turned, I'm demoralized. And I'm like, hey, and
I've tried to raise them, you know, not to be
macho or you know, over the top, but hey, cowboy up,
man up, let's get the job done.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
No, they're picking. They're picking up what's out there. Thank
you very much for the call.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
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some of our vip emails. Vip emails we have. Kumar
writes in Matt Gates, who is nominated for Attorney General,
needs to ask for a public hearing for Senate confirmation.
Let us find out what he has to say and
what people are afraid of having him say. I look
at if we get to this stage. I'm sure you're

(19:20):
going to find out a lot about what the objections
are they have to Matt Gates, and what the advantages
or you know, what the benefits would be. He'll be
able to make his case to all of you, and
I think that that's something that we should all. You know,
the man deserves the chance to make his case to
the public about why he would be good at this.
But you know, for me, also, first of all, the

(19:42):
the the part of the problem here with the whining
about any Trump pick is that the machine has shown
us just how inept, how how incompetent, how dishonest, how
tyrannical it can already be. You know, you're gonna lecture
us about Trump's picks before they've even done anything. Results

(20:06):
are results. If I don't like results, if I see
things going on with anyone in the Trump cabinet that
I think is not helping the mission, not helping the country,
I'm gonna say so. But Trump gets to pick the
team that he wants to have after winning this election,
and after all that he's been through and all the
stuff he's overcome. You know, I'm not second guessing the
guy on how he assembles the team around him. I

(20:29):
want to see results. He says, this will get us results.
Trump is in the position to make those calls, right.
So that's one thing. But honestly, I mentioned before the
people who are complaining about this, like, oh my gosh,
Toulsi Garberd, like, like what do they think? Do they
even know who the last DNI was under Buddies dodn't
even who the DNI is right now? These people are

(20:50):
so funny. All these Beltway insiders are so important that
we have somebody who who wants been drinking coffee and
writing reports for twenty years. I was a CIA analyst.
I saw all okay in Langley. I know exactly how
this stuff goes. It's a lot of people sitting around like, oh,
I don't know, should I change this sentence? I mean,
it's just and I hope that maybe the deputy Assistant

(21:10):
Secretary for whatever spends more than thirty seconds reading this.
Why do you think I left the CIA? I saw
what was going on there. I got to brief the
president a couple of times, which for a young CIA
analysts was the absolute as like the pinnacle of your
career is to run a deep dive. It wasn't just
like I gave him piece of paper, run a deep
dive briefing for thirty minutes on a specific area that

(21:31):
I had knowledge on particular knowledge unks. I'd just come
back from a rock. Actually in both cases, I just
come back from I rock. And you know, you see
when you see what's going on all these objections, but
then you get to the other side of you go.
They made Pete booda judge transportation secretary based on what

(21:51):
based on the fact that the guy says he likes
trains and is the mayor of South Bend. I mean, well,
you know what's next. We're gonna make the chief dog
catcher of Secaucus, New Jersey, the secretary of State. I mean,
it's absurd, it's absurd. Jennifer grand Home. I sat on
a Bill Maher panel with her years ago. The woman
is not intelligent. Okay, she's not a bright person. I

(22:14):
don't like to be mean, you know me, if anything,
were probably too nice. Jennifer grand Home not smart at all.
I don't mean not smart for a cabinet level official.
I mean a dumb dumb and they made her like
an energy secretary. What does she know about energy? The
whole thing, like, look at who these people put in
these jobs and now on the Washington Post or democracy

(22:34):
is under assault because look they're gonna have Pete hegsh
at this dj or as DoD Rather give me a break. Honestly,
the more they cry, the better I feel about this stuff,
The better I think it's gonna go, the more they
want to look with Look how much they've cried about Trump.
The end of democracy? Is democracy over? Is the country over?
They are horrible things. I know he's not president yet,

(22:55):
but you know that horrible things happen when he was
president for four years. Does anyone really think that Trump's
gonna take office in uh January? And look, I will
tell you I'm hearing from sources, very well placed and
high up sources inside the Trump transition because I do
talk to them that the deportation thing is gonna is

(23:19):
gonna be real. They're they're actually gonna enforce the law.
Good good, But all this other whining and nonsense about
these people, you know, and I'll tell you this, even
the people who Yeah, the current DNI is Avril Haynes.
Now I remember that, but yeah, Avril Haynes done an

(23:43):
amazing job. In the job that nobody knew that she had. Wow,
you know what I mean, it's absurd. I think the
whole thing is not. So let's take Jim and Tennessee
former Air Force base engineer talking about government waste. Tell me, Jim,
what do you got for us?

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Hey, Buck, it's really great to be on your show.
Back in two thousand and four, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Okay, yeah, yeah, we can all hear you.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Back in two thousand I was chef engineer of the
Evolved Expending a launch vehicle program and we launched payloads
for your buddies over at NRO National Reconnaissance Office. We
had a launch insertion failure where the rocket didn't make
the altitude that needed to make. So we had a

(24:34):
big meeting with all the scientists and engineers and we're
going over the post launch data, and it was clear
to me by just looking at the profile that the
engine cavitated, just like a speedboat engine will when it
just pulls bubbles, pulls air, it pulls a vacuum. So
it was clear to me that it cavitated. So the

(24:56):
civilian engineers and scientists said the they had to use,
they had to use an exhaustive all cause analysis to
look at every possible failure mode and determine what went wrong.
And I said, well, it's clear to me that the
engine pulled a vacuum and cavitated. Why can't you look

(25:17):
at the most likely cause first? So, oh, no, we
can't do that. We're not allowed. Our process is okay.
So they had to follow their ingrain process. It took
six weeks, it cost fifty million dollars, and it determined
that the engine cavitated. So every bureaucracy in the in

(25:37):
the federal government has built in processes that guarantees their
continued work at no value added to the taxpayer.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Oh well, thank you so much for that. Totally totally correct, Jim,
and appreciate you sharing that story. I'll tell you one
of the things that that Hegseth I think is going
to get rid of in DoD Land. And maybe it's
Elon and and Vivek who also have a hand of this.
You know a lot of these people also all know
each other, they respect each other, they have each other's
phone numbers. That the level of connectivity that this top

(26:09):
circle in Trump world is going to have with each
other far exceeds honestly, in previous administrations. There's a lot
of nerds who don't know you don't even know each other,
and the secretary of such and such doesn't know the
secretary of such and such. These guys all know each
other and they're all operating. And you know, Pete knows Tulsi,
and Tulsi knows Viveke, and Viveke no obviously with Elon,
and Elon knows what I mean, knows Gates. I mean,

(26:32):
these guys all know each other, and they all they
already have working relationships. So this is gonna move I think,
much faster. And one of the funnier stories that I know,
Elon told these amazing stories about government fraud, waste and
abuse where his rocket launches. They made you know, this
just came out recently. We played some of this for
you on the show. But they made them see if

(26:53):
I think it was dolphin mating habits would be affected
by the noise of the rockets, So they had to
make sure that dolphins still wanted to have even though
like rockets were going off in the distance or something
turned out, who wants to guess, dolphins still wanted to
get it on you know, they still wanted to get
it on. I remember when I went out to the

(27:14):
when I was a young CIA officer. Uh oh, and
they didn't want it to hit a whale. That's right.
When it was landing, it was gonna it was gonna
come down on the ocean. What if the rocket lands
in the middle of the ocean it hits a whale.
Now you've just killed a whale. Unacceptable. I have to
make sure. And Elon, I think I had the right attitude,
is like, look, if the whale gets hit, it's a
big ocean. If the whale gets hit by a rocket

(27:35):
coming down, like, it's probably the whales day, you know
what I mean. Let's be honest. You know, maybe it
was a mean whale like Monstro in Pinocchio. Remember that
Monstro that scared me when I was a kid. Monstro
was scary. If you have that's a great old Disney
The old Disney cartoons so great. That's a great old
Disney cartoon. They were a Pinocchio. Oh, not a bite

(27:56):
until we find Pinocchio, remember Giuseppi. It's great. The cobbler
or whatever. Not a cobbler, what is he's a wood
would work or whatever he is, Cobbler would work or
something like that. I can't believe I'm talking about Pinocchio. Okay,
here we go, National Training Center. What does Trump say?
I'm weaving. I'm weaving. Anytime I start to go off
track now, especially on solo days, I'm just gonna be

(28:17):
like I'm doing the Trump I'm weaving. I'm weaving. I
went to the National Training Center in at Ford, Irwin.
I think it's the same thing. I always forget this,
like the same place, yeah, Ford, Irwin, California, just to
observe some of the counterinsurgency training that was I was
out there, like I don't know, a week or two something,
maybe a week ten days, observing counterinsurgency training out there,

(28:40):
so that I when I would go to Rock myself,
I had a better sense of the training that outgoing
units were getting.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
There.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
It was pretty amazing. I had like these villages with
people speaking like fake villages, like kind of a p
Temkin village, but with a lot of shish kebab and
people speaking Arabic and stuff, and they were and I
remember I was out there and the base commander I
don't remember his name, and I don't remember his uh,
his rank or you know, it's probably a general or something,
colonel general. But the base commander gave a presentation to

(29:07):
a few of us, A few of us from CIA
were just there to check out what's going on. And
the thing that I really remembered was he talked about
and some people who have been out there probably even
if you have any details on this that I'm leaving out,
let me know. This is going back now fifteen years
or something. It was a long time ago. But they
would have these you know, military vehicle convoys. Ford Irwin
is in the middle of nowhere, all right. If you're

(29:28):
wondering like, what would the world look like in a
Mad Max apocalypse, it's the area around Forder. It's just
just nothing, desert, some meth labs here and there. That's it, right,
that's that area. And they had this problem because there
was this There was I think a desert tortoise that
would on these the military vehicles will come by on

(29:49):
this one main highway into the base and the desert
tortoise will get you know, squished, you know, especially if
the tortoise gets hit by like an m rap or
something that's gonna that's gonna make that's gonna leave am
even with this little shell. So the tortoises were getting squashed.
And so then they said, well what is it? And
the environ and remember this is California's the environmentalists all

(30:10):
freak out. The environmentalists will all you know, probably had
like Greta Thunberg chaining herself to the wall or chaining
herself defence or something. You know, how dare you? And
and they decided what they had to do. This is
this is real, is create this is what the guy
told me. Okay, it's all. This is a senior military
officers telling me what they had to do with the space.
They had to create a kind of a low netting

(30:33):
for I think it was a few miles on the
entryway into the space to keep the desert tortoise from
coming out the road and getting turned into turtle soup
by you know, the military vehicles going by at high speeds. Right.
You might think, okay, happy ending, but you know what,
this is a problem. Tortoises, as you may know, not

(30:53):
very agile, right, and so they would get stuck in
this little fencing and then they would be easy, easy
pickings for the buzzards and other predatory birds because they
were stuck there and they couldn't move and they would
just get eaten. So they had to build little underpasses

(31:14):
in the fence. And I think this call I don't
want to. I forget. This is a long time ago.
I think they said this cost like all in with
all the environmental studies, like forty million dollars or something,
some crazy amount of money so that the tortoises wouldn't
get stuck in the road and eaten by the buzzards.
Welcome to the United States Military of the federal government, everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
It was pretty it was.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Pretty remarkable stuff. I gotta say. I was like, wow,
occasionally I get to learn cool stuff at the CIA. Hey,
it's Buck Sexton from our home to yours. Have a
wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
David in Minnesota. What did you think about what you're
seeing out there?

Speaker 5 (31:55):
You know, guys, we've been talking about the culture for
for many years. Rush you guys, you're and how that
if until Trump or the GOP Republicans, whatever you want
to call it, became the equivalent of sitting at the
cool kid's table, nothing would change. And with the dances
in the UFC the NFL with a landslide victory, Trump

(32:18):
winning the young male vote. It's just it's coming. There's
a sea change coming. The culture is changing and it's
only going to get better. Thanks guys, what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I'm going to talk about this more in the next hour.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Buck.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I think he's one hundred percent right for the culture
to have changed to the extent where young men out
there are diehard Trump wearing MAGA hat badasses. I think
what's really interesting to me, And again everything is anecdotal,
but I saw this young men rise coming for Trump support.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
My boys and the kids.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
That they have and that they hang out around, they're
still buy and large is not able to vote. Then
this next decade, I think they're going to be even
more diehard Trump voting than the current generation. Right, Like
my fourteen year old in the car the other day,
I talked about this, saying, I'm going to be able
to vote in twenty eight He's going to vote Republican

(33:18):
one billion percent.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Jen Z in particular, and I think millennials as well,
there was a sense that to be cool and this
might have been a part of the kind of Obama phenomenon.
But the cool kids were Democrats was a widespread I
never agreed with that because Clay I always thought I
was a cool kid and my conservative friends, but there
was a you know, the culture was much more aligned
with them. I think jen Alpha, which I've now learned

(33:42):
is what's below gen Z. You're going to see a
lot more the cool kids are conservative because of these
alternative media pathways, because of the effect of a lot
of shows out there, including this one. I might add,
but you know, the sort of bro podcasters, the Rogan effect,
elon all of it. If you're an if you're a

(34:03):
if you're an eighteen year old guy right now, you know,
who do you really look up to in the like
if you're a standard American eighteen year old guy, any
you know, any race, whatever, any religion, who do you
really look up to in the Democrat Party?

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Don't?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I don't know who it was having this conversation over
the weekend, Buck, I was having this conversation like, who
would you I was talking with a bunch of dudes,
just again, dudes, not even particularly particularly political. I asked
the question, can you name me a Democrat that you'd
like to go watch this football game with We're not
going to sit around and talk about abortion policy. We're

(34:39):
not going to talk about you know, tax rates. We're
just going to watch a game and just have a
couple of beers and chill. I can't name really a
Democrat i'd want to watch a game with.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
I mean, the Tim Waltz thing. I know, we had
a lot of fun with it, and it was funny,
but it was bizarre at the same time. This is
this is there, like, Hey, I'm going to appeal to
guys who wear carhart and drive pickup truck, not just
for an ad like that's how they live their lives.
This is who they are. I'm going to appeal to
them with Tim Walls Like, really that that's your move.

(35:11):
So I think that they've learned, they've learned a less
of this. I know you've been sharing it. The Seth
Molten stuff is insane. Yeah, he's congressman is like boys
shouldn't be playing in girls' sports, and the left wing
lunatics are all after him. If Democrats want to start
to gain back some of the ground they've lost, they
actually need guys like Seth Moulton who can kind of
play that center ground a little bit and not look

(35:31):
like a total weirdo.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, and we need to play some of that audio.
I shared it over the weekend. But I mean, you've
got John Oliver, who everybody likes to talk.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh John Oliver.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
John Oliver, he.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Came out and said Democrats need to double and triple
down on trans inclusion in sports.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I'm like, Jin, I think he's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
He's He's the Japanese soldier on the island who doesn't
know the war is over, or at least that he's
lost the battle. He's in another planet.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
And you know, I got to give her credit and
I would love to have her on the show at
some point. How about jk Rowling just being the most
based badass.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Woman on the planet.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
She's a billionaire, she didn't need to weigh into gender
related issues. I actually want to read her response to
what John Oliver said on air, because I think she
may have a future in writing book. But this is
the Harry Potter writer. She's amazing for the battles that
she's fighting too.

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