November 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful mix of breaking political analysis and cultural commentary. Buck opens with the latest on the Epstein Transparency Act, warning listeners that even after President Trump signs the bill and the DOJ releases files within 30 days, Democrats will weaponize the process. He predicts endless claims of tampering and incomplete disclosures, despite the fact that victim testimony has never implicated Trump. Buck cites comments from CNN and Democrat lawmakers, highlighting their strategy to link Trump to Epstein regardless of evidence. White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt reinforces that leaked narratives are politically motivated and reminds listeners that Trump was consistently cleared in victim statements.
The conversation shifts to FBI credibility and intelligence reform, sparked by revelations about the would-be Trump assassin and parallels to the Nashville school shooter manifesto cover-up. Buck argues that federal agencies have lost public trust and explores whether efforts by leaders like Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel can restore integrity. He also discusses Trump’s push to eliminate the Senate filibuster, framing it as essential for advancing election integrity measures, voter ID laws, and ending universal mail-in ballots. Buck warns Republicans to act before Democrats seize the advantage, emphasizing the stakes for future elections.
In the second half of the hour, Buck dives into a Pew Research study on marriage trends among Gen Z, revealing that only 61% of 12th-grade girls want to marry compared to 74% of boys. He critiques cultural messaging that promotes “boss babe” ideology and hookup culture, arguing it misleads young women and undermines long-term happiness. Buck contrasts this with a resurgence of traditional values among young men, who increasingly reject toxic masculinity narratives and embrace leadership, family, and faith. He calls for a cultural reset that prioritizes stable family formation and meaningful relationships over superficial social media-driven dating norms.
Listeners join the discussion, sharing real-world observations about generational shifts in marriage and family priorities. Buck closes with candid insights on dating culture, noting how social media amplifies superficiality and how men and women differ in what they value in partners. He underscores timeless truths about purpose, family, and the pursuit of meaning beyond material success.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, thank
you for being with us, everybody. So a few things. One,
as we know, the Epstein file release is in process.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Passed by the House and the Senate unanimous except for
one guy in the House. And then beyond that it
has to get signed by Trump and then there will
be a thirty day period for the release and we
will have to see just what is in those files.
There will be a lot of efforts, regardless of what's
(00:40):
in them, to engage in finger pointing. There'll be people
who try to claim that the files say whatever they
want them to say, or rather they indicate, oh it's
we all know they're gonna they're gonna try to find
some version of Trump. Is there's there's more to find
(01:00):
out about Trump, even though what we know. That's one
way that they'll do this, and I think they'll also
plan to engage in the Hey, Trump didn't actually release
everything that he that he could ever should have released. Here,
for example, is a Democrat member at Congress. I'm I'm
(01:22):
just preparing you for this right because I feel like
those of you who really wanted this release and you've
approached this in good faith. You just want transparency about
something that is a huge web of evil and deceit
and exploitation and criminality, all these things. You just want
(01:44):
to know if anybody was an accomplice in a criminal
sense to Jeffrey Epstein, other than Glenn Maxwell, who's already
serving its twenty year prison sentence. You want to know,
and that is entirely valid. But then they'll be people
on the other side of this. There'll be a lot
of Democrats who have been saying, we have to see
(02:05):
the files, we have to release the files. And as
these files get released, guess what they're going to say, Oh,
I think Trump didn't release what needed to be or
there's something else missing, there's some other piece of this.
This is a Democrat, Garcia from California. This cut six.
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Do you have concerns that the files may have been
in any way messed with, tampered with?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Of course I have those concerns, and obviously I don't
trust the Trump Department of Justice. But let me lay
something else out, which is important to that point.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
We know that right now the president has a choice
to make.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
He can be honest.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
He could come clean and release.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
The files of the American publican justice of the survivors.
What we expect he's probably doing is by launching this
kind of new sham investigation where he's only going after
his political enemies or Democrats. He may he's doun of
an excuse to try to stop or delay further release
of the fire because right now they haven't done anything
to the public, so that is a real concern.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're not going to accept whatever it is that comes
out as the final word because it's not going to
implicate Trump. This is my prediction. It's not going to
implicate Trump. I don't even think it's going to criminally
implicate personally. This one I could be wrong on, so
I'm not telling you it is. I'm just saying what
I think. I don't think it's going to criminally implicate
(03:29):
anybody else. Again, Buck, why do you think that? As
I have explained, the DJ already has the stuff. So
imagine the DOJ saying, you know, we thought this whole
time there was nobody else to charge, but since you
guys made us release this publicly, there's some names in
there we got to charge. I just don't think it's
(03:50):
gonna happen, right, and come on, This is the one
thing that bureaucracy and I will tell you this from
my my short and I don't know, glorious less than glorious.
I don't know how to describe it. It was very
interesting actually being in the CIA, but my short time
at the CIA, the one thing that the bureaucracy is
(04:14):
very adept at doing is covering its own ass. This
is one thing that they are really good at. Right,
whether you want to talk about where does the deep
state really excel? The deep state excels in making sure
that there is no accountability and no one to dismantle
the deep state, and if they try, it turns into
(04:38):
Skynet from terminator and tries to start like an external
nuclear war to cover its tracks. I mean, the deep
state will do, will do anything in order to make
sure that there is no accountability. So that's why you know,
there are some places where you can see the motivations
of people that would hold stuff back, or people that
would play games with what's going to come out for
(05:00):
them to admit that they had something that should be
criminally charged and to not do it's just it's not
going to happen. I don't see how that could happen.
If I'm wrong, I'll let you know. If I'm wrong,
I'll come out and admit it. But that tends to
not be the case. I also think that you're going
(05:21):
to see, you know, you're going to see people who
view this as just another opportunity to run over or
go over once again, everything that we already know about
this here is a see and this is cut seven
CNN's Abby Philip just saying, you know, when Trump was
a Democrat, he was hanging out with them, like all
these other Democrats always about Trump play.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
It is the NAGA base that asked for it. Is
also Donald Trump who said he was going to do it.
Now he's the one who has been flip flopping back
and forth on this one thing. I would also note
Donald Trump was a Democrat back when he was hanging
around with Jeffrey Epstein. So talk of all the Democrats
hanging around Jeffrey Epstein includes him.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, yeah, we know that, but there's this this completely
transparent all roads with Epstein. There's no there there when
it comes to Trump Epstein. But yeah, with Democrats, all
roads lead back to Trump. All roads Epstein related lead
back to Trump. So if you say, hey, how many
(06:19):
times was Bill Clinton on the plane with Epstein? They'll
say more times than Donald Trump was. If you say
how how how many years you know was was Bill
Gates friends with Jeffrey Epstein, They'll say, well, more years
than he was friends with Trump. I mean it's it's
always about trying to attach this to Trump in some way.
(06:39):
It couldn't be more transparent, it could be more obvious.
So I'm just preparing you for that's not going to change.
Doesn't matter, doesn't They could release everything unredacted and say, guys,
I swear, you know, take us to the I don't know,
take us to the where could they? It's the DOJ.
I mean you can't take them really to any but
(07:01):
cross my heart and hope to die. Here's all the documents.
And people say, no, that's not all the documents. So
so I'll get ready for that. Also, I think it's
worth hearing from Caroline Levitt on this, the White House
Press secretary, who says that the they keep leaving out
that of all of the victim testimony from the Epstein trot,
(07:23):
all the victim testimony, no one ever implicated Donald Trump.
And what else? What else can you know about this.
I mean, here you go. This is a cut nine
play it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's classic Washington host. Yes, you have Democrats on the
Oversight Committee leaking redacted information to their favorite reporter at CNN,
who then pops the story with that redacted information. The
unadacted version proves that the so called victim in this
email is a woman who is unfortunately deceased, but prior
to her death said on numerous occasions that President Trump
(07:57):
never did anything wrong and was always incredible be friendly
in her interactions with him. And so it's a purposeful
lead to try to manufacture this news cycle to drag
the president. And we've seen this play out so many times,
and it's a classic playbook of the Democrats using their
friends and the fake news to spin up a narrative
about the president.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And that will continue no matter what's in the files.
That's all. That's all I want you to be ready
for on this one. They will continue to say there's more,
there's more Trump, Trump is hiding things and all that.
Something else though, that that came out of the This
is by the way, this is Caroline Levitt on our
frim Miranda Divines podcast. Miranda was on with us. H oh, gosh,
was it yesterday? The week is all blending together now,
(08:41):
and you know she has that reporting about the would
be Trump assassin. So, and it's interesting. I actually talked
with Christopher Ruffo today on a panel about this. Miranda
and Christopher both are of the mind that the FBI
knew this, but knew everything that's come out, but didn't
release it or didn't publicly talk about the fact that
(09:02):
this guy was using day they would be assassin, was
using day them pronouns and is that were sort of
better than them than the FBI being so incompetent that
they missed it. We shouldn't we definitely know that if
this person, this individual who tried to take the country
into the darkest place in my lifetime by assassining Donald
Trump at that field in Butler, Pennsylvania, wouldn't wouldn't the
(09:28):
FBI and anyone in charge of the FBI know that
we absolutely need to understand every aspect of this. How
could they have how could they have held that back
knowing it? So this is why I was like, maybe
maybe they just they weren't really I don't know, they
(09:49):
don't have that, they didn't have the crack team on
this one. But it turns out, I guess the consensus
is that they knew and they held it back. We
knew that, for example, the Comington shooter, the trans terrorists
who shot up at school in coming to in Tennessee,
we knew that that individual had a manifesto and that
they were hiding the manifesto, so that one was quite clear.
(10:11):
They just got to hide the manifesto because then people
will all know this is a trans lunatic terrorist. But
in this case, they knew it, but they didn't tell
anyone anything about I don't know the whole thing, just
it stinks. It's bad these these agencies. They've lost so
much credibility. They've lost so much in terms of public trust,
(10:34):
and at best it will take time for it to
be rebuilt. But I don't know if it ever goes
to where we thought it was. Maybe at some point,
maybe some of you never trusted the FBI, and that's fine.
I think I clung for a long time, and even
after I worked at the CIA, I clung to the
belief that the FBI, on the most important stuff, when
(10:59):
push came to shove, would be first and foremost a
law enforcement agency and not a tool of politics, and
that's just been completely obliterated in the last decade, completely
obliterated January sixth of everything. So how do you how
do you come back from that? How do you? I know,
we've got good people over there, We've got Cash, We've
(11:20):
got Director Patel, and we've got Dan Deputy Director Bongino.
Who are you know? They could they could just be
making millions dance case, you know, tens of millions in
the private sector doing what they love, hanging out, and
instead they're trying to put this thing on the right
footing the FBI to remake the FBI in some ways. Man,
(11:42):
that's got to be a thankless job, thankless job, and
a very tough one because the damage done. I don't
know if it's possible they may have been given mission
impossible to be put in charge of this effort at
the FBI specifically, and I think at some level you
have that as well well with Tulci Gabbard as the DNI.
(12:03):
The intelligence community does not want to be coordinated, It
does not want to be directed, so to speak, It
does not want to be playing nice with each other.
And so ultimately the role of the Director of National
intelligence is essentially an impossible one because these different entities
are always going to fight for their own prerogatives, and
(12:23):
you're seeing that with efforts to reform the CIA, and
so these are very big, long term projects that are
quite challenging. Maybe Congress can do more, though maybe there's
greater leeway than we had anticipated. Here's Caroline Levitt, this
is cut eight saying straight up on Rehnder Devine's podcast,
time to let go of the Filibuster.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
He is in total agreement that we need to let
go of the filibuster. It's not serving the purpose that
it originally intended to serve anymore. It's really a moot point,
and he wants to see it gone so that he
can have the most productive three years of any president ever.
He's already been so productive in his first term. There's
so much more work to do. Election integrity, voter id,
getting rid of universal mail in ballots, All of that
(13:07):
can be done if Congress works together and gets rid
of the filibuster. So the President is definitely talking a
lot about that, both publicly and privately. I know he's
expressed his opinion on that to leaders in the Senate
who may agree or disagree. We'll have to see how
it shakes out. But there's so much that can be accomplished,
and we must take advantage of having the most productive
president in the oval office.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So this is very interesting because you end up getting
into not only a discussion of what is best for
the country and what is constitutional intent, you have to,
I think, do some anticipatory analysis of are the Democrats
going to do this, because it would seem to be
(13:51):
a clear mistake, a strategic error to wait around not
have Donald Trump in the formidable world role of not
just president but leader of MAGA and there's this movement
that's been built around him to go for some take
some big swings at the plate, if you will. That
(14:11):
would only be possible with the removal of the filibuster.
If we don't do that, and then you, I know
it sounds to some of you unthinkable, but it's not.
It's not impossible. A Newsome presidency where we all sit
around and just look at the wind blowing through his hair,
his shirt buttons so low, so handsome. Gavin Newsome, uh
(14:33):
a Gavin Newsom presidency or an AOC or or Gretchen Witmer,
whoever it is that they're gonna they're gonna put forward.
If they go and do it first, there's a big
first mover advantage here because then I then I think
that you'll be able to make decisions and make policies
(14:55):
that will affect future elections. That's the thing. So, you know,
we talking about election integrity, for example, you get real
election integrity measures in place, who does it hurt Democrats?
We all know that, right, So, I mean that's I
don't even think Democrats can really they don't even really
argue that point. They're like, there's no fraud. It's like,
what about all these people that go to prison for
election fraud? What about these people that, Oh my god,
(15:17):
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A couple of things today, I want to throw into
the mix for our conversation, for our rumination on and
I want to get your thoughts on it. For sure,
I thought this was interesting. It plays into some broader
narratives and concerns that we have. One is this Pew
poll Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago,
(19:17):
and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls
are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they
actually want to get married someday. Now more overall of
twelfth graders, so these are roughly like eighteen year olds
(19:39):
right summer seventeen, summer nineteen, but twelfth graders I think
are basically eighteen eighteen and nineteen. More of them said
they would not get married someday, but not a lot more.
But the thing that I found more interesting about the
data here, and this is also the kind of polling
where I think it. I don't think it's hard to
do this pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for
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people's opinions. They're easy enough to find, they're going to
share these opinions, so it's not some political incentive to
mess with this data. It's not like an election or something.
So I think that what's there's there's something that's concerning
here and something that I actually find encouraging I'll start
with the concerning side of this. The concerning side of
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it now is that sixty one percent of girls say
that they want to get married someday. As if I'm
reading this data correctly, boys are more likely than girls
to say they want to get married someday seventy four
percent versus sixty one percent. Only sixty one percent of
girls say they want to get married. What is going
(20:45):
on here? Well, I think we know what's going on.
Unfortunately are our society. And I think, look, I've only
I've only been around for a certain period of time,
as you know. But for my entire adult life, to
be sure, there has been this I call it like
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the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect,
the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very
clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in
our culture to tell young women to act like men,
not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a
(21:28):
separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially,
certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and
hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead
of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their
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own destiny. They should view themselves more as equal as
in the same as men, and young women are not
the same as young men. You and I know this
is not a recipe for long term happiness for women.
This is not going to result in good life choices
for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're
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talking about roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here.
We're talking about women in the eighteen to thirty year
old age age range here. But I'll tell you I
know this just from if we want to get anecdotal.
I know so many women who are my age now,
they're in their forties that I grew up with in
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New York, and they had nothing but options, and a
lot of them are not married and they're never going
to have families now, And what do we What would
I say to them if they wanted to hear my
opinion on this, which I don't think they do. They're
probably not listening to this show. But they were completely
misled by the culture. They were put down a pathway
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that was very likely to cause misery. And they're even
little small things along the way here. I remember when
I was when I was graduating from college, everybody around
me wanted to work at an investment bank or a
management consultant firm. Maybe that was an it's not just
an Amerst thing though, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amhers Williams,
you know, haver Ford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays. Everybody
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wants to. They want to. You want to come out
of school. You want to make one hundred and fifty
grand your first year out of school, which is what
you can make at some of these places as a
twenty two, twenty three year old.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But
the hours, especially on the investment banking side, were absolutely
miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was
I mean, if you weren't going to sign up for that.
And I just remember thinking, I was like, how many
of the young women that I knew in that class, really,
why do they want to do that? And this some
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may say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist.
It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women
have different biological timelines that they're operating under. That is
just fact. Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm
from age twenty two to you know, thirty, to try
to make VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors
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and do all this stuff. Should they be able to
do this if they choose absolutely, Is this going to
make most of them happy?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I can tell you none of the ones that I
knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years,
maybe stayed in finance, and they all stopped because guys
work overwhelmingly. Why do guys work in finance? Why do
guys do any job where they can try to make
a comfortable living Because they want to be an attractive partner,
a mate husband for a woman so they can provide
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for a family. And you know, this is why these
guys put themselves through this. And you know the data
on the other side of this is also very clear.
They've run these experiments and you don't even have to
you just think through the experiment. Guys sees a beauty women,
a beautiful woman, she's wearing a power suit. She's a
boss babe. Guys sees the same the same woman in
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a different context. She's wearing a McDonald's uniform. The percentage
of guys who care about this is very small, very small,
just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've
done these experiments before, you know, and and we have
led so many of these women down this young women
down this pathway. And it's my generation that I think
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it is. I'm a I'm a gray beard millennial. I
do have grand my beard. I'm a graybeard millennial. My
generation was just DEI and boss babe, sex and the
city stuff just just decimated. Certainly the people who grew
up in the big cities and and were around this
really uh inundated with this culture. And and it's still happening.
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These young women, you know, you don't don't want to
get married. I mean I I you can sit and
watch all these interviews that they're there's some very actually
good podcasters. You do these long form interviews with CEOs
who are wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard
and these different some of these hosts the Diary of
a CEO guy. There's others. They're always told the same
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thing about these guys who have more money than they
know what to do with, more success they know what
to do with. If they had to regret, it was
I wish I spent more time with my family. And
if they're asked what they're most proud of and they
have a family, you know what they say, their family.
I mean, this is all very very much there first.
So I really think that there need to be more
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voices speaking to young women. Are not going to some
of you, by the way, very glad you're listening to
the show. But I don't know if a forty three
year old guy telling women about their life choices is
going to resonate with you twenty somethings who love Taylor
Swift like I understand that may not be my prime
demographic for my message, but we need more women who
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can speak effectively to them. And it's for their own
good because there being led down a pathway that is
not turning out well. And the fact that you're getting
close to almost half of women don't want to get married,
young women, eighteen year old women, they don't want to
get married. Now you could say, oh, maybe they still
want to have kids, and I would say to that,
(27:15):
you're gonna have kids, you should get married, Okay, you should.
You should have a stable family. Formation shouldn't do the
shouldn't do this, the baby mama thing, or the shouldn't
do this.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Bruser ally tells me some people are getting mad at
Taylor Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is
this is very bad message they have. Okay, on the
good so that's on the bad side of things. Women,
young women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. It's terrible. I
see it everywhere. And the results are just going to
be a lot of a lot of misery for them
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later in life or a lot of regret. I should say,
you know, people can find purpose and a lot of things.
And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family,
and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children.
And a lot of people have difficulty having children. But
we're talking it's like policy, what is going to bring
the greatest happiness results for the greatest number of people
getting married, having a family, pursuing a life where you
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are focused day to day outside of your own needs
and wants. It's so important. It's so important to have
things that you care about. Relationship with God, your wife,
your husband, your kids, your immediate family. You know your
family member that you're a caretaker or taking care of.
(28:34):
You have to care a cause that's actually worthy, not
like climate change, but an actually worthy cause you have
to care about things beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just
go through the scale of hedonic adaptation. Things get better,
you get used to it. Materially, things get better. You
don't care anymore. You know. I was recently out with
(28:56):
a guy is a friend of a friend, very nice,
and I'm not putting him down, but I just thought
it was kind of funny. There's a car called a Pegani,
which I think is costs like four million dollars six
minutes a car. It costs millions of dollars. I don't
know producer rally google what a Pegani costs. It's absurd.
(29:20):
And this guy has eight of them. And let me
tell you something, the ninth Pegani, he's probably gonna lose it.
So it doesn't even care. Right, you reach this point
where that stuff doesn't matter. You have to find meaning
in other things, meaning things outside of your immediate needs.
And once on the upside though, of this same pupil,
the fact that young men and I love it's a
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huge problem for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem
for the woke left. Young men have gotten the message.
Young men realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense.
They have realized that that the suppression of traits and
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within masculinity, bravery, courage, aggression concentrated in the right ways,
you know, that the suppression of these things, wanting to
be the leader of a family, wanting to be the
leader of a of a of a community, well and
whatever way that is. I want to be a leader
in the workplace. That the suppression of that is just
(30:27):
absolute nonsense and really destructive. And young men are realizing
this is why they are turning away from the Democrat Party.
That's why young men are increasingly going back to for
those those who are Christian going back to church. There,
they they want more. They want to lead, They want
to be spiritual leaders. They want to be people that
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they want to be someone that their wife can count on, yes,
to defend them, to protect them physically, but also emotionally
and spiritually, to be there for. We want to have
our roles. We want to pursue the best of what
it is to be a man. Young men want to
(31:11):
get married in greater numbers. According to Pew, they want
to be masculine, not you know, just oh, I'm shooting
up a lot of steroids, and you know, I look
like he man or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their
masculine imperative, their masculine destiny to be men, that they
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become good men. They get it in greater numbers. And
it's just because of the failure of what the left
is offering, the undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness
of our culture of leftism and liberalism and all this
other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and pulling men down.
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They see it, and they've had enough, and they know
there's something better. And I just truly hope that the
young women of America are on the precipice of a
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Let's take a call here from Amy just north of
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me and Fort Lauderdale. Lovely Fort Lauderdale. What's going on? Amy,
Hey back.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I'm gonna tell you were right on about the young
girls nowadays. Be misled. I've been in nurse forty years.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I have four.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Children, seven grandchildren, all young, and I've.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Never met an elderly person who said, I'm so glad
I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made, so glad.
And I talked to the young girls I work with,
who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody out there,
I guess I'm never going to have kids, and they're
desperate to meet young people, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree
with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and
expansive family you have created. A couple of thoughts I
have on this. One is, Man, I could do whole
shows just on dating because I was in the dating
world for a long time and I have all these
scars to prove it in New York City and Washington,
(34:42):
d C. No less as a right wing guy, so
you can imagine what that was like. But I think
that women in the social media era are often trying
to pick guys base more upon look Men are about
looks generally more superficial than women. That is like a
shock anybody. Men really are superficial about looks. Women generally
(35:04):
in the past at least have been first and foremost
interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father,
and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think
that women now more than ever, are what is he
gonna You're talking about young women, so don't please if
you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what I think.
I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there.
(35:25):
I think that they want to be able to say
that my boyfriend is six foot three, and they want to, like,
you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's
like we was he a jerk? Is he a great guy?
Do people around him really respect him? Or does he
just paul? I think that female superficiality in the dating
world has been increased by the social media eraworin you
could yell at me. I think that's true. One other
(35:47):
interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women in different
outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata the three
most preferred professions. When guys are asked, if you get
to pick your future wife could have what job when
you met her? Do you think any of them say CEO.
(36:10):
You didn't getting them say you know, nuclear scientists, although
that would be cool. I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher,
not a surprise to anybody, right, So we just had
a nurse calling in and we'll talk about maybe I'll
throw some more social truth bombshells out there tomorrow. I
feel like all of you know everything I'm saying is true.
(36:31):
It's just all true. And the angry Libs who have
been led astray by they're the ones who get mad
about it. But you all know everything I say is true.
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, thank
you for being with us, everybody. So a few things. One,
as we know, the Epstein file release is in process.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Passed by the House and the Senate unanimous except for
one guy in the House. And then beyond that it
has to get signed by Trump and then there will
be a thirty day period for the release and we
will have to see just what is in those files.
There will be a lot of efforts, regardless of what's
(00:40):
in them, to engage in finger pointing. There'll be people
who try to claim that the files say whatever they
want them to say, or rather they indicate, oh it's
we all know they're gonna they're gonna try to find
some version of Trump. Is there's there's more to find
(01:00):
out about Trump, even though what we know. That's one
way that they'll do this, and I think they'll also
plan to engage in the Hey, Trump didn't actually release
everything that he that he could ever should have released. Here,
for example, is a Democrat member at Congress. I'm I'm
(01:22):
just preparing you for this right because I feel like
those of you who really wanted this release and you've
approached this in good faith. You just want transparency about
something that is a huge web of evil and deceit
and exploitation and criminality, all these things. You just want
(01:44):
to know if anybody was an accomplice in a criminal
sense to Jeffrey Epstein, other than Glenn Maxwell, who's already
serving its twenty year prison sentence. You want to know,
and that is entirely valid. But then they'll be people
on the other side of this. There'll be a lot
of Democrats who have been saying, we have to see
(02:05):
the files, we have to release the files. And as
these files get released, guess what they're going to say, Oh,
I think Trump didn't release what needed to be or
there's something else missing, there's some other piece of this.
This is a Democrat, Garcia from California. This cut six.
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Do you have concerns that the files may have been
in any way messed with, tampered with?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Of course I have those concerns, and obviously I don't
trust the Trump Department of Justice. But let me lay
something else out, which is important to that point.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
We know that right now the president has a choice
to make.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
He can be honest.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
He could come clean and release.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
The files of the American publican justice of the survivors.
What we expect he's probably doing is by launching this
kind of new sham investigation where he's only going after
his political enemies or Democrats. He may he's doun of
an excuse to try to stop or delay further release
of the fire because right now they haven't done anything
to the public, so that is a real concern.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're not going to accept whatever it is that comes
out as the final word because it's not going to
implicate Trump. This is my prediction. It's not going to
implicate Trump. I don't even think it's going to criminally
implicate personally. This one I could be wrong on, so
I'm not telling you it is. I'm just saying what
I think. I don't think it's going to criminally implicate
(03:29):
anybody else. Again, Buck, why do you think that? As
I have explained, the DJ already has the stuff. So
imagine the DOJ saying, you know, we thought this whole
time there was nobody else to charge, but since you
guys made us release this publicly, there's some names in
there we got to charge. I just don't think it's
(03:50):
gonna happen, right, and come on, This is the one
thing that bureaucracy and I will tell you this from
my my short and I don't know, glorious less than glorious.
I don't know how to describe it. It was very
interesting actually being in the CIA, but my short time
at the CIA, the one thing that the bureaucracy is
(04:14):
very adept at doing is covering its own ass. This
is one thing that they are really good at. Right,
whether you want to talk about where does the deep
state really excel? The deep state excels in making sure
that there is no accountability and no one to dismantle
the deep state, and if they try, it turns into
(04:38):
Skynet from terminator and tries to start like an external
nuclear war to cover its tracks. I mean, the deep
state will do, will do anything in order to make
sure that there is no accountability. So that's why you know,
there are some places where you can see the motivations
of people that would hold stuff back, or people that
would play games with what's going to come out for
(05:00):
them to admit that they had something that should be
criminally charged and to not do it's just it's not
going to happen. I don't see how that could happen.
If I'm wrong, I'll let you know. If I'm wrong,
I'll come out and admit it. But that tends to
not be the case. I also think that you're going
(05:21):
to see, you know, you're going to see people who
view this as just another opportunity to run over or
go over once again, everything that we already know about
this here is a see and this is cut seven
CNN's Abby Philip just saying, you know, when Trump was
a Democrat, he was hanging out with them, like all
these other Democrats always about Trump play.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
It is the NAGA base that asked for it. Is
also Donald Trump who said he was going to do it.
Now he's the one who has been flip flopping back
and forth on this one thing. I would also note
Donald Trump was a Democrat back when he was hanging
around with Jeffrey Epstein. So talk of all the Democrats
hanging around Jeffrey Epstein includes him.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, yeah, we know that, but there's this this completely
transparent all roads with Epstein. There's no there there when
it comes to Trump Epstein. But yeah, with Democrats, all
roads lead back to Trump. All roads Epstein related lead
back to Trump. So if you say, hey, how many
(06:19):
times was Bill Clinton on the plane with Epstein? They'll
say more times than Donald Trump was. If you say
how how how many years you know was was Bill
Gates friends with Jeffrey Epstein, They'll say, well, more years
than he was friends with Trump. I mean it's it's
always about trying to attach this to Trump in some way.
(06:39):
It couldn't be more transparent, it could be more obvious.
So I'm just preparing you for that's not going to change.
Doesn't matter, doesn't They could release everything unredacted and say, guys,
I swear, you know, take us to the I don't know,
take us to the where could they? It's the DOJ.
I mean you can't take them really to any but
(07:01):
cross my heart and hope to die. Here's all the documents.
And people say, no, that's not all the documents. So
so I'll get ready for that. Also, I think it's
worth hearing from Caroline Levitt on this, the White House
Press secretary, who says that the they keep leaving out
that of all of the victim testimony from the Epstein trot,
(07:23):
all the victim testimony, no one ever implicated Donald Trump.
And what else? What else can you know about this.
I mean, here you go. This is a cut nine
play it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's classic Washington host. Yes, you have Democrats on the
Oversight Committee leaking redacted information to their favorite reporter at CNN,
who then pops the story with that redacted information. The
unadacted version proves that the so called victim in this
email is a woman who is unfortunately deceased, but prior
to her death said on numerous occasions that President Trump
(07:57):
never did anything wrong and was always incredible be friendly
in her interactions with him. And so it's a purposeful
lead to try to manufacture this news cycle to drag
the president. And we've seen this play out so many times,
and it's a classic playbook of the Democrats using their
friends and the fake news to spin up a narrative
about the president.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And that will continue no matter what's in the files.
That's all. That's all I want you to be ready
for on this one. They will continue to say there's more,
there's more Trump, Trump is hiding things and all that.
Something else though, that that came out of the This
is by the way, this is Caroline Levitt on our
frim Miranda Divines podcast. Miranda was on with us. H oh, gosh,
was it yesterday? The week is all blending together now,
(08:41):
and you know she has that reporting about the would
be Trump assassin. So, and it's interesting. I actually talked
with Christopher Ruffo today on a panel about this. Miranda
and Christopher both are of the mind that the FBI
knew this, but knew everything that's come out, but didn't
release it or didn't publicly talk about the fact that
(09:02):
this guy was using day they would be assassin, was
using day them pronouns and is that were sort of
better than them than the FBI being so incompetent that
they missed it. We shouldn't we definitely know that if
this person, this individual who tried to take the country
into the darkest place in my lifetime by assassining Donald
Trump at that field in Butler, Pennsylvania, wouldn't wouldn't the
(09:28):
FBI and anyone in charge of the FBI know that
we absolutely need to understand every aspect of this. How
could they have how could they have held that back
knowing it? So this is why I was like, maybe
maybe they just they weren't really I don't know, they
(09:49):
don't have that, they didn't have the crack team on
this one. But it turns out, I guess the consensus
is that they knew and they held it back. We
knew that, for example, the Comington shooter, the trans terrorists
who shot up at school in coming to in Tennessee,
we knew that that individual had a manifesto and that
they were hiding the manifesto, so that one was quite clear.
(10:11):
They just got to hide the manifesto because then people
will all know this is a trans lunatic terrorist. But
in this case, they knew it, but they didn't tell
anyone anything about I don't know the whole thing, just
it stinks. It's bad these these agencies. They've lost so
much credibility. They've lost so much in terms of public trust,
(10:34):
and at best it will take time for it to
be rebuilt. But I don't know if it ever goes
to where we thought it was. Maybe at some point,
maybe some of you never trusted the FBI, and that's fine.
I think I clung for a long time, and even
after I worked at the CIA, I clung to the
belief that the FBI, on the most important stuff, when
(10:59):
push came to shove, would be first and foremost a
law enforcement agency and not a tool of politics, and
that's just been completely obliterated in the last decade, completely
obliterated January sixth of everything. So how do you how
do you come back from that? How do you? I know,
we've got good people over there, We've got Cash, We've
(11:20):
got Director Patel, and we've got Dan Deputy Director Bongino.
Who are you know? They could they could just be
making millions dance case, you know, tens of millions in
the private sector doing what they love, hanging out, and
instead they're trying to put this thing on the right
footing the FBI to remake the FBI in some ways. Man,
(11:42):
that's got to be a thankless job, thankless job, and
a very tough one because the damage done. I don't
know if it's possible they may have been given mission
impossible to be put in charge of this effort at
the FBI specifically, and I think at some level you
have that as well well with Tulci Gabbard as the DNI.
(12:03):
The intelligence community does not want to be coordinated, It
does not want to be directed, so to speak, It
does not want to be playing nice with each other.
And so ultimately the role of the Director of National
intelligence is essentially an impossible one because these different entities
are always going to fight for their own prerogatives, and
(12:23):
you're seeing that with efforts to reform the CIA, and
so these are very big, long term projects that are
quite challenging. Maybe Congress can do more, though maybe there's
greater leeway than we had anticipated. Here's Caroline Levitt, this
is cut eight saying straight up on Rehnder Devine's podcast,
time to let go of the Filibuster.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
He is in total agreement that we need to let
go of the filibuster. It's not serving the purpose that
it originally intended to serve anymore. It's really a moot point,
and he wants to see it gone so that he
can have the most productive three years of any president ever.
He's already been so productive in his first term. There's
so much more work to do. Election integrity, voter id,
getting rid of universal mail in ballots, All of that
(13:07):
can be done if Congress works together and gets rid
of the filibuster. So the President is definitely talking a
lot about that, both publicly and privately. I know he's
expressed his opinion on that to leaders in the Senate
who may agree or disagree. We'll have to see how
it shakes out. But there's so much that can be accomplished,
and we must take advantage of having the most productive
president in the oval office.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So this is very interesting because you end up getting
into not only a discussion of what is best for
the country and what is constitutional intent, you have to,
I think, do some anticipatory analysis of are the Democrats
going to do this, because it would seem to be
(13:51):
a clear mistake, a strategic error to wait around not
have Donald Trump in the formidable world role of not
just president but leader of MAGA and there's this movement
that's been built around him to go for some take
some big swings at the plate, if you will. That
(14:11):
would only be possible with the removal of the filibuster.
If we don't do that, and then you, I know
it sounds to some of you unthinkable, but it's not.
It's not impossible. A Newsome presidency where we all sit
around and just look at the wind blowing through his hair,
his shirt buttons so low, so handsome. Gavin Newsome, uh
(14:33):
a Gavin Newsom presidency or an AOC or or Gretchen Witmer,
whoever it is that they're gonna they're gonna put forward.
If they go and do it first, there's a big
first mover advantage here because then I then I think
that you'll be able to make decisions and make policies
(14:55):
that will affect future elections. That's the thing. So, you know,
we talking about election integrity, for example, you get real
election integrity measures in place, who does it hurt Democrats?
We all know that, right, So, I mean that's I
don't even think Democrats can really they don't even really
argue that point. They're like, there's no fraud. It's like,
what about all these people that go to prison for
election fraud? What about these people that, Oh my god,
(15:17):
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caught up in the election fraud stuff? M so weird,
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A couple of things today, I want to throw into
the mix for our conversation, for our rumination on and
I want to get your thoughts on it. For sure,
I thought this was interesting. It plays into some broader
narratives and concerns that we have. One is this Pew
poll Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago,
(19:17):
and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls
are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they
actually want to get married someday. Now more overall of
twelfth graders, so these are roughly like eighteen year olds
(19:39):
right summer seventeen, summer nineteen, but twelfth graders I think
are basically eighteen eighteen and nineteen. More of them said
they would not get married someday, but not a lot more.
But the thing that I found more interesting about the
data here, and this is also the kind of polling
where I think it. I don't think it's hard to
do this pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for
(20:01):
people's opinions. They're easy enough to find, they're going to
share these opinions, so it's not some political incentive to
mess with this data. It's not like an election or something.
So I think that what's there's there's something that's concerning
here and something that I actually find encouraging I'll start
with the concerning side of this. The concerning side of
(20:21):
it now is that sixty one percent of girls say
that they want to get married someday. As if I'm
reading this data correctly, boys are more likely than girls
to say they want to get married someday seventy four
percent versus sixty one percent. Only sixty one percent of
girls say they want to get married. What is going
(20:45):
on here? Well, I think we know what's going on.
Unfortunately are our society. And I think, look, I've only
I've only been around for a certain period of time,
as you know. But for my entire adult life, to
be sure, there has been this I call it like
(21:06):
the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect,
the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very
clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in
our culture to tell young women to act like men,
not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a
(21:28):
separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially,
certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and
hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead
of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their
(21:52):
own destiny. They should view themselves more as equal as
in the same as men, and young women are not
the same as young men. You and I know this
is not a recipe for long term happiness for women.
This is not going to result in good life choices
for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're
(22:13):
talking about roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here.
We're talking about women in the eighteen to thirty year
old age age range here. But I'll tell you I
know this just from if we want to get anecdotal.
I know so many women who are my age now,
they're in their forties that I grew up with in
(22:33):
New York, and they had nothing but options, and a
lot of them are not married and they're never going
to have families now, And what do we What would
I say to them if they wanted to hear my
opinion on this, which I don't think they do. They're
probably not listening to this show. But they were completely
misled by the culture. They were put down a pathway
(22:57):
that was very likely to cause misery. And they're even
little small things along the way here. I remember when
I was when I was graduating from college, everybody around
me wanted to work at an investment bank or a
management consultant firm. Maybe that was an it's not just
an Amerst thing though, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amhers Williams,
you know, haver Ford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays. Everybody
(23:18):
wants to. They want to. You want to come out
of school. You want to make one hundred and fifty
grand your first year out of school, which is what
you can make at some of these places as a
twenty two, twenty three year old.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But
the hours, especially on the investment banking side, were absolutely
miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was
I mean, if you weren't going to sign up for that.
And I just remember thinking, I was like, how many
of the young women that I knew in that class, really,
why do they want to do that? And this some
(23:50):
may say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist.
It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women
have different biological timelines that they're operating under. That is
just fact. Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm
from age twenty two to you know, thirty, to try
to make VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors
(24:15):
and do all this stuff. Should they be able to
do this if they choose absolutely, Is this going to
make most of them happy?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I can tell you none of the ones that I
knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years,
maybe stayed in finance, and they all stopped because guys
work overwhelmingly. Why do guys work in finance? Why do
guys do any job where they can try to make
a comfortable living Because they want to be an attractive partner,
a mate husband for a woman so they can provide
(24:46):
for a family. And you know, this is why these
guys put themselves through this. And you know the data
on the other side of this is also very clear.
They've run these experiments and you don't even have to
you just think through the experiment. Guys sees a beauty women,
a beautiful woman, she's wearing a power suit. She's a
boss babe. Guys sees the same the same woman in
(25:07):
a different context. She's wearing a McDonald's uniform. The percentage
of guys who care about this is very small, very small,
just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've
done these experiments before, you know, and and we have
led so many of these women down this young women
down this pathway. And it's my generation that I think
(25:28):
it is. I'm a I'm a gray beard millennial. I
do have grand my beard. I'm a graybeard millennial. My
generation was just DEI and boss babe, sex and the
city stuff just just decimated. Certainly the people who grew
up in the big cities and and were around this
really uh inundated with this culture. And and it's still happening.
(25:50):
These young women, you know, you don't don't want to
get married. I mean I I you can sit and
watch all these interviews that they're there's some very actually
good podcasters. You do these long form interviews with CEOs
who are wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard
and these different some of these hosts the Diary of
a CEO guy. There's others. They're always told the same
(26:13):
thing about these guys who have more money than they
know what to do with, more success they know what
to do with. If they had to regret, it was
I wish I spent more time with my family. And
if they're asked what they're most proud of and they
have a family, you know what they say, their family.
I mean, this is all very very much there first.
So I really think that there need to be more
(26:33):
voices speaking to young women. Are not going to some
of you, by the way, very glad you're listening to
the show. But I don't know if a forty three
year old guy telling women about their life choices is
going to resonate with you twenty somethings who love Taylor
Swift like I understand that may not be my prime
demographic for my message, but we need more women who
(26:55):
can speak effectively to them. And it's for their own
good because there being led down a pathway that is
not turning out well. And the fact that you're getting
close to almost half of women don't want to get married,
young women, eighteen year old women, they don't want to
get married. Now you could say, oh, maybe they still
want to have kids, and I would say to that,
(27:15):
you're gonna have kids, you should get married, Okay, you should.
You should have a stable family. Formation shouldn't do the
shouldn't do this, the baby mama thing, or the shouldn't
do this.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Bruser ally tells me some people are getting mad at
Taylor Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is
this is very bad message they have. Okay, on the
good so that's on the bad side of things. Women,
young women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. It's terrible. I
see it everywhere. And the results are just going to
be a lot of a lot of misery for them
(27:49):
later in life or a lot of regret. I should say,
you know, people can find purpose and a lot of things.
And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family,
and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children.
And a lot of people have difficulty having children. But
we're talking it's like policy, what is going to bring
the greatest happiness results for the greatest number of people
getting married, having a family, pursuing a life where you
(28:14):
are focused day to day outside of your own needs
and wants. It's so important. It's so important to have
things that you care about. Relationship with God, your wife,
your husband, your kids, your immediate family. You know your
family member that you're a caretaker or taking care of.
(28:34):
You have to care a cause that's actually worthy, not
like climate change, but an actually worthy cause you have
to care about things beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just
go through the scale of hedonic adaptation. Things get better,
you get used to it. Materially, things get better. You
don't care anymore. You know. I was recently out with
(28:56):
a guy is a friend of a friend, very nice,
and I'm not putting him down, but I just thought
it was kind of funny. There's a car called a Pegani,
which I think is costs like four million dollars six
minutes a car. It costs millions of dollars. I don't
know producer rally google what a Pegani costs. It's absurd.
(29:20):
And this guy has eight of them. And let me
tell you something, the ninth Pegani, he's probably gonna lose it.
So it doesn't even care. Right, you reach this point
where that stuff doesn't matter. You have to find meaning
in other things, meaning things outside of your immediate needs.
And once on the upside though, of this same pupil,
the fact that young men and I love it's a
(29:43):
huge problem for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem
for the woke left. Young men have gotten the message.
Young men realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense.
They have realized that that the suppression of traits and
(30:03):
within masculinity, bravery, courage, aggression concentrated in the right ways,
you know, that the suppression of these things, wanting to
be the leader of a family, wanting to be the
leader of a of a of a community, well and
whatever way that is. I want to be a leader
in the workplace. That the suppression of that is just
(30:27):
absolute nonsense and really destructive. And young men are realizing
this is why they are turning away from the Democrat Party.
That's why young men are increasingly going back to for
those those who are Christian going back to church. There,
they they want more. They want to lead, They want
to be spiritual leaders. They want to be people that
(30:50):
they want to be someone that their wife can count on, yes,
to defend them, to protect them physically, but also emotionally
and spiritually, to be there for. We want to have
our roles. We want to pursue the best of what
it is to be a man. Young men want to
(31:11):
get married in greater numbers. According to Pew, they want
to be masculine, not you know, just oh, I'm shooting
up a lot of steroids, and you know, I look
like he man or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their
masculine imperative, their masculine destiny to be men, that they
(31:32):
become good men. They get it in greater numbers. And
it's just because of the failure of what the left
is offering, the undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness
of our culture of leftism and liberalism and all this
other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and pulling men down.
(31:55):
They see it, and they've had enough, and they know
there's something better. And I just truly hope that the
young women of America are on the precipice of a
similar renaissance, a similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure.
(32:15):
I worry women have been greatly misled and the damage
is just beginning, I think, to set in for many
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Let's take a call here from Amy just north of
(33:43):
me and Fort Lauderdale. Lovely Fort Lauderdale. What's going on? Amy,
Hey back.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I'm gonna tell you were right on about the young
girls nowadays. Be misled. I've been in nurse forty years.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I have four.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Children, seven grandchildren, all young, and I've.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Never met an elderly person who said, I'm so glad
I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made, so glad.
And I talked to the young girls I work with,
who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody out there,
I guess I'm never going to have kids, and they're
desperate to meet young people, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree
with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and
expansive family you have created. A couple of thoughts I
have on this. One is, Man, I could do whole
shows just on dating because I was in the dating
world for a long time and I have all these
scars to prove it in New York City and Washington,
(34:42):
d C. No less as a right wing guy, so
you can imagine what that was like. But I think
that women in the social media era are often trying
to pick guys base more upon look Men are about
looks generally more superficial than women. That is like a
shock anybody. Men really are superficial about looks. Women generally
(35:04):
in the past at least have been first and foremost
interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father,
and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think
that women now more than ever, are what is he
gonna You're talking about young women, so don't please if
you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what I think.
I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there.
(35:25):
I think that they want to be able to say
that my boyfriend is six foot three, and they want to, like,
you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's
like we was he a jerk? Is he a great guy?
Do people around him really respect him? Or does he
just paul? I think that female superficiality in the dating
world has been increased by the social media eraworin you
could yell at me. I think that's true. One other
(35:47):
interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women in different
outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata the three
most preferred professions. When guys are asked, if you get
to pick your future wife could have what job when
you met her? Do you think any of them say CEO.
(36:10):
You didn't getting them say you know, nuclear scientists, although
that would be cool. I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher,
not a surprise to anybody, right, So we just had
a nurse calling in and we'll talk about maybe I'll
throw some more social truth bombshells out there tomorrow. I
feel like all of you know everything I'm saying is true.
(36:31):
It's just all true. And the angry Libs who have
been led astray by they're the ones who get mad
about it. But you all know everything I say is true.
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