May 12, 2025 • 36 mins
The hour begins with the introduction of Dr. Nicole Saphier, a board-certified radiologist and Fox News contributor, who joins the Clay and Buck Podcast Network with her new show, "Wellness Unmasked." Dr. Saphier discusses her goals for the podcast, which will focus on cutting through misinformation in health and wellness, from cold plunges and saunas to chronic illness and food science.
A major topic of discussion is President Trump’s executive order aimed at lowering prescription drug prices. Dr. Saphier explains the significance of this move, noting that unlike President Biden’s limited Medicare-focused efforts, Trump’s plan targets broader negotiations across Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurers. She highlights the legal and political challenges ahead, particularly from Big Pharma, but praises the administration’s aggressive stance on healthcare affordability.
The conversation shifts to the controversial nomination of Dr. Casey Means as Surgeon General. Dr. Saphier critiques the pick, citing Means’ lack of completed medical training and limited clinical experience. She emphasizes the need for a unifying, credible figure in public health who aligns with both the “Make America Great Again” and “Make America Healthy Again” movements.
In a rapid-fire “lightning round,” Dr. Saphier weighs in on popular wellness trends like infrared saunas and cold plunges, offering practical insights into their health benefits. Clay and Buck also share personal anecdotes about their own experiences with these trends, adding humor and relatability to the segment.
Later in the hour, the hosts welcome Nick Adams, author of the upcoming book "From Mar-a-Lago to Mars: President Trump’s Great American Comeback." Adams discusses Trump’s resilience, masculinity, and cultural influence, particularly among young men and athletes. He argues that Trump’s authenticity and refusal to conform have made him a symbol of strength and leadership, not just in America but across the Western world.
The hour wraps with listener talkbacks, including praise for the show’s balance of serious content and humor. Clay also revisits his bold claim that he could swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco, sparking a lighthearted debate about endurance, hypothermia, and the logistics of the challenge.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We appreciate all of you hanging out with us all
over the nation. We hope all of you had fabulous
Mother's Day and made sure that you thanked all the
mothers in your life, both mothers of your children as
well as your own mothers. And we bring in a
new part of the Clay and Buck podcast Network. We
(00:22):
are super excited to bring her in. She is a
mother as well as an expert on many different fields
of medicine. Doctor Nicole Sapphire new podcast is going to
be called Wellness Unmasked. It's in the Clay and Buck
podcast Network. It will debut tomorrow and we'll get into
that in a sect. But I believe you have two boys,
(00:42):
if I'm not mistaken, doctor Sapphire, How was your Mother's Day?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Did you do anything fun?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, guys, thanks so much for having me on. I
actually have three boys, three.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Sons with by me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Then you throw in the husband and the dogs. I
have a lot more boys.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Who takes more?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
My wife says that I take more mothering and taking
care of in terms of difficulty than the boys do.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know if that's true. Or not. But is
your husband more of a challenge or the three boys?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know what, I think they all have their equal parts,
difficult days and good days, but everybody contributes and I
love it. This was a perfect weekend Mother's Day weekend.
We had phenomenal weather in the Northeast, which is a
shock because we have had pretty bad weather for what
feels like months, and so we were essentially outside all
day every day, Saturday and Sunday, and it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Was glorious, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, tell us about the podcast, which we're super excited
to have off and running.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I am beyond thrilled to announce Wellness Unmass. It's part
of your network. We are going to be talking all
things help and wellness. You know, people say some people
don't like to talk politics, some people don't like to
talk sports, but I can tell you everyone at some
point in their life cares about their health. And there's
so much information coming out of us, out of everywhere.
(01:59):
You don't know it's true, it's not true. I mean
we all really learned that during COVID. I mean, follow
the science, listen to the experts. Welve turned out paper
wrong and a lot of things and I am known
for kind of looking at the science myself, reading the
data myself, and giving an honest opinion and honest, unfiltered opinion.
And I want to continue to do that, whether we're
talking about cold plunges or we're talking about the latest
(02:23):
research when it comes to the foods that we're eating
and potential disease. I mean, all you have to do
is turn on the radio, turn on the TV these
days and you see RFK Junior or someone else. Help
is a huge topic these days, and it is important
that we sift through it all and we kind of
break it down so it's no nonsense.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Doctor Safire, thanks for being with us, and welcome to
the podcast network. What is your reaction when you see
this big move from Trump over the weekend and more
details on it today on prescription drug prices, because again
for those of us not actually prescribing and not having
to know the name of the drugs and what they
do and operating in that world, it just seems pretty
(03:04):
straightforward that there's something wrong with as Trump says the
fat shot quote unquote, but drugs costing a whole lot
more here than they do in a lot of other countries,
including very wealthy countries.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, so anybody who has been following President Trump since
his first term knows that he has been focused on
reducing the cost of prescriptions here in the United States.
I mean, in twenty twenty four alone, Americans spent ninety
eight billion dollars out of pocket on prescription drugs. That's
twenty five percent increase in just the last five years.
During his first term, he went the old fashion route
(03:42):
and he went through legislation and he tried to pass
bills to reduce drug costs. Well what happened, Well, big pharma,
the lobbyists, they all pushed back and a lot of
the changes that he tried to make the Biden administration
did not continue. And so here we are again in
the first few months of his administration, and he is
going hard after these drug companies. And it's going to
(04:04):
be unpopular because drug companies are one of the biggest
lobby powerhouses. They spend a lot on campaigns. So a
lot of your politicians out there get money from drug companies.
But what President Trump is doing, which is different than
what Biden was doing, So people will say, well, President
Biden was also working on mooring drug prices and that
is true he was, but he was specifically just doing
(04:27):
a few select drugs, specifically for those who are on Medicare,
so people who are sixty five and older. What President
Trump is saying is, we want to make sure that
Medicare is able to negotiate with these drug companies, but
we also want to expand that to Medicaid as well
as the private insurance companies. Because why should just the
(04:48):
elderly have have more affordable drug prices? What about everybody else?
And so that is why this is a very big
executive order. What he's saying, we have thirty days to
come to the table drug companies. You're going to negotiate
with RFK Junior, the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
and you are going to figure out how we can
lower the cost of prescription medications here in the United States. Now,
(05:12):
you think that people are going to come out and
criticize this, I mean I think people would look pretty
bad criticizing the idea of wanting to decrease pharmaceutical cost
to Americans. I mean, that'll make them look bad. But
these are really big goals, and so we want to
make sure that it's not all talk and that they
are able to follow through with this, and so it
will take a lot of negotiations, but there's going to
(05:34):
be a lot of legal hang ups, especially when it
comes to the pharmaceutical industry. They're going to tie this
up in the legal system.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm certain of it, Nicole, doctor Sapphire not going to
call Sapphire with us right now. How would you assess
from a doctor perspective the start of the RFK Junior tenure,
because it's been very controversial. I know we've got a
new surgeon general nominee potentially coming. How would you assess
(06:03):
what doctor what RFK Junior is focused on and doctor
means I think who has now been potentially elevated as
the next surgeon general. How well do you think he
has done? What do you think he could do better?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think that the impetus between the Make America Healthy
Again movement RFT Junior and everything that they're focusing on
right now as all everything that the United States needs,
we need to be looking at our chronic illness epidemic.
I've been talking about this pre COVID. During COVID, we
saw Americans were not doing well once they got infected
with COVID because we had such an overweight population, because
(06:41):
we have so much chronic illness, and so that rendered
us vulnerable. And so to actually look at that and
not just say, well, let's just create more medications to
treat the illness, but let's figure out why we've gotten
this looking at what's in our food supply specifically. You know,
we hear our Ke Junior say all the time he's
talking about seed oils. Well, if you actually look at
seed oils, there's good data, including a new study that
(07:03):
just came out of Cornell linking lineleic acid, which is
in one of the seed oils, directly to cancer formation.
How do we have these in our food here in
the United States, but they're not allowed in food elsewhere
throughout the world. So I do applaud them at looking
at some of these things and really looking at the
root cause of our illness and not just focusing on
(07:24):
expanding access to treatment. You want to have both.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
There.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I guess we can call it drama surrounding the Surgeon
General nominee Pick. It certainly has been played out online
and I actually did respond to it myself. I put
out a video because I was getting a million text
messages phone calls, people stopping me in the hospital asking
me what my opinion was, and when it comes to
a surgeon general pick, I think they need to fit
three boxes. The first box, they have to be aligned
(07:52):
with the Make America Great Again movement and President Trump.
That means that this person needed to speak out during
COVID some way or the other. They had to either
speak out to say we should be trying everything in
terms of treating this illness when we don't have known treatments,
whether it was hydroxychloroquin hybermectin. They needed to speak out
when it was clear natural immunity and the vaccine and
(08:13):
douce immunity we're having similar effects. And when they started
pushing the mandates and vaccinations for kids, they needed to
speak out and say, let's pump the rakes for a
second and see if there is really a risk benefit
ratio there that would indicate these kids should be vaccinated
against COVID. If they didn't do that, if they weren't
a part of any of that, then they don't fit
(08:33):
that forsbox. The second box is to make America healthy again.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they have to be aligned
or have worked with RFT Junior in the past, but
they have to have been speaking about chronic illness and
prevention as well as some more natural ways to prevent illness.
And they can't just be doing it right now because
it's trendy. They have to have been doing it before
(08:56):
and now the last one. And this is what I
find very important. Our healthcare is our medical industry, public health.
We're all completely fractured since COVID because we've lost a
lot of trust, and rightfully so, and so we need
to unify our medical professionals, and we also need to
unify patients across the United States, and so we need
someone who is respected enough in the industry that physicians
(09:18):
are going to look to them, because the Surgeon General
is essentially a public figure where they are going to
be espousing the make America great again and they make
America healthy again talking points. But if they don't have
the respect of their peers, then no one's going to
listen to them, and that message is not going to
get very far and it's certainly not going to last
beyond an administration. My biggest concern about the current nominee,
(09:40):
doctor Casey Means, is while she may be very intelligent,
and she's very well spoken. She didn't even finish medical school,
so therefore she's never actually I'm sorry, she finished medical school.
She didn't finish her medical training, her residency training, and
so because she didn't finish her training, she's never been
an actively practicing physician. She doesn't fit that first box
(10:00):
of the Make America Radio Again because she wasn't seeing patients,
she wasn't treating patients, and she didn't necessarily speak out
against COVID during that time. She absolutely is aligned with
Make America Healthy Again. She is. I believe she and
RK Jr. Are actually very close, And she doesn't necessarily
fit that third box in the sense that a lot
of medical professionals are not going to look to someone
(10:22):
who never even completed their medical training to leave them.
So those are my big concerns. I think we need
to be unifying right now, and I'm not sure this
is the way to go.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Doctor Nicole Sapphire with us now. She's launching a podcast
tomorrow here on the Claim Block Network Wellness on Masked
and doctor Sapphire. If I could for a moment, sorry,
I'm now turning into the guy at the cocktail party.
Who's like, you know, my elbow kind of hurts. What
do you think it could be? I want to do
a quick I'm sure you get that right, Like, hey, Doc,
you know what's wrong with my eye?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, but a quick lightning round.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I have a couple of things I just want to
throw out to you and you can just saunas important?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Good? Yeah, where are we on saunas?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I love saunas. I especially like infrared saunas. I literally
have it looks like a sleeping bag in my house
that I laid myself in and I put my body
in because heat is really good for chronic inflammation and pain,
and it's a really good way to detoxify your body.
It also can help you increase your metabolism. It can
help you sleep if you use it in the evening time.
(11:23):
I'm a huge fan of saunas.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay, so good, because yes you can.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
They're They're everywhere here in South Florida now. So I'm
always kinda want to cold plunge.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Is it really going to.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Turn me into, you know, the best version of myself
if I jump into cold water?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
All right? I can tell you that I have not
jumped on the cold plunge bandwagon the way that you
should from a scientific standpoint, absolutely by doing that, it
does have health benefits. It decreases inflammation and it stimulates
your cardiovascular system. I hate being cold personally, which is
bizarre that I live in the Northeast, so I'll go
sit in the sauna any day, but don't talk to
(12:00):
me about cold plunging.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Clay, do you have a lightning round? Are you good?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I was just gonna say. I convinced Buck I
love the cold plunge. Now, when we were in Miami,
we jumped in this. I mean, but I don't know
how cold you need to go, and I have my
family and the cold plunge with me.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
We were at the gym and Clay went into the
coldest plunge, which I think is like forty five degrees
or something, and I was like, Clay, you do you man?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Hey, listen, there are health benefits to it, and you
know it's trendy. I do hate to join in on
the trends, but yeah, no, I can get behind the
health benefits of it. But for me, I think there
are other ways to decrease that inflammation and stimulate the
body without being freezing cold.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
See if you guys listen to doctor Sapphire's podcast, Wellness Unmasked,
you'll get all kinds of great health advice and tips
as well as know what's going on in the world
of health, medicine, policy, all the rest. So doctor Sapphire
honored to have you with us. Thank you so much,
and we'll be talking to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's the car Doctor Nicole Sapphire now a part of
the Clay Podcast Network, which.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Kind of a madman in a cold plunge, like you
stayed in law I'll be honest with you, I would
have bet against you staying in the cold plunge as
long as you did. You know, they have this stuff
now at some of these gyms in Florida where you
go the cold plunge, and they got the sauna and
they got all these things, and I was I was
a little bit impressed. I was totally whimping out on
that one.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know what's funny is if you tell me somebody
else has done it, then I immediately know that I
can do it. We were in Strawberry Strawberry Springs, or
something like that out in Steamboat Springs and somebody my
wife was like, well, Joe Rogan does this for like
five minutes at a time, because I was only doing
like two minutes, and I was like, Joe Rogan does
(13:38):
it five. I could do five minutes in this, and
then I stayed in for five minutes. I think I
could do pretty well in the cold plunge. And we're
now adding a cold plunge to the new house because
the boys were like super interested in it.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm glad Doctor Saphire's got to get with the ball,
not just the sauna. You gotta go sawn a cold
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Speaker 5 (15:23):
All right, welcome back in to Clay en Buck. We
got a friend Nick Adams joining here in a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh is he the most maga Australian of all?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I think you would argue is arguing near the top
of the Australian Maga Power rankings for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, so so he'll be with us talk about Trump's
amazing come back, his new book. We got a bunch
of talkbacks. We love the talkbacks. And here, uh well,
we'll do this one. Bb first up here listener, June.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Clay and Buck love you guys.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Love the show.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Buck, you crack me up with your impersonations.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I can't tell if I like your Fauci, Newsome or
Bernie better, but you rock them all. Keep it up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Thank you very much. I appreciate that we have some fun.
We have some fun with that one.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I think Fauci is still my favorite. That Newsome as
the evil Keanu Reeves is more relevant, probably because Fauci's
just kind of vanished. I don't remember last time I
really saw.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Well with Newsome, we've created a whole visual image of
you two guys drinking chardonnay, you know, at French laundry together,
fancy guys, because you're always like, I mean, he's kind
of he's kind of slick.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's kind of handsome, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, Newsom is a handsome man. I'm a bit
disappointed that we invited him on the show. He just
has blown us off. I'm happy to go have a
nice chardonnay with him, sit down and just talk about
you know things, and maybe you could.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Get to stop ruining California. You would actually be able
to do a great service, Like, hey, Gavin, stop ruining
a great I love California, a great state.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Newsom needs to go full Costanza and just do the
opposite of everything that he's been trying to do for
I think he could get California back up and rolling
pretty quick. I think we got another listener CCP.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
After Rush passed away and a certain someone got elected
to be president and sort of went away from talk
radio for a bit. But I don't I can't say
you guys have replaced Rush, because I don't think anybody
could replace Rush. But you've made your own space that's
(17:26):
on par with the quality.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, that's an incredible endorsement. That's Jeff a podcast listener
who wih in there. And you know we don't take
for granted that we get to talk to you guys
every single day.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
He never replaced it. I don't think we agree with that.
We don't think anyone can replace Russia. No one could
or should or has, but we try to continue to
fight for his.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Audience day in and day out. That's exactly right, that's
the goal.
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Com Australia's manliest man at least that supports dot Trump.
Crocodile Hunter's dad. I think maybe you is with us now.
Nick Adams got a brand new book out. We'll ask
him about that. Who would you say, as an Australian
is the manliest man in Australia right now? Because I
think it might have been the crocodile Hunter back in
(19:15):
the day, right, Steve Irwin? But who would you say
is the manliest man in Australia now? Is that a
title that you would be happy to aspire to?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Say, look, it certainly was me up until twenty and sixteen,
given that I am now an American.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Really, when you had to relinquish the title manliest man
in Australia to become an American?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I did?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I did, actually, And even though I relinquished the title,
it was still an upgrade Clay. So I believe I'm
firmly in contention for the manliest man in America now too,
up there with you, of course and our good friend Buck.
But it's a tight competition. But I hopefully we'll pit
you boys at the post.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Nick, appreciate you being here with us from Marl go
to Mars. President Trump's Great American Comeback? What are you
telling everybody about in the book that they need to hear?
What is the I mean, I think we have a
sense of where it's going because of what the title is.
But what for you is the most the most sillient
points about what Clay and I have turned that. I'm
(20:18):
sure you'd agree the greatest political comeback in history.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Definitely the greatest political comeback in history. Look, Buck, the
reality is, I've written a few books, but this is
the first book I've written that is as much a
self help book as it is a political and historic
Americana book. This is a book that really provides a
manual for people to win on the battlefield that we
(20:43):
call life, all based on what we saw President Trump
do over the last three to four years, how he
managed to not just survive but thrive despite the unparalleled
adversity that he was subjected to. I mean, let's just
think about it. He was censored, he was deplatformed, They
(21:06):
tried to bankrupt him, They impeached him twice, arrested, sued, indicted,
They tried to kill him twice. That we know of
This is a man that had so much thrown at him,
and yet he never ever once compromised even an inch,
never retreated, never ever went back on anything that he said,
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even though it would have been much more expedient, much
easier for him to do so. He's never stopped fighting
for the American people, for the people that have been
forgotten and abandoned by America's political elite. And there is
a Donald Trump, I think in all of us. And
that's what I wanted to capture in from mar A
Lago to Mars President Trump's Great American Comeback. I wanted
(21:51):
to really get people to understand that you too can
get through life if you apply the principles that Donald
Trump as of being able to turn every setback into
a setup for a comeback through positive thinking, through just
never ever giving up. And I think that there are
(22:13):
so many things that we can learn from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Nick, Why do you think white, Black, Asian, Hispanic young
men are breaking towards Trump in such a degree? Certainly
we saw this in the twenty twenty four election. You
spend a lot of time talking to younger guys through
social media. What do you think is attracting them? To Trump,
And why do you think we're seeing this cultural shift
(22:38):
that's so prominent not only among young white, Black, Asian
Hispanic men, but also among athletes where supporting Trump has
become cool in a way that it was not in
Trump one point zero.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Clay, he's the ultimate man's man. He doesn't apologize, he
is authentic, he is bald. He has what I like
to coin testi fortitude, a term that you and I
are very very familiar with, and young men relate to that.
Young men love that, and those that can't relate to
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it aspire to have it and are attracted to it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So that's the.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Reason that I think young men turned out in record
numbers last year in twenty twenty four to bring President
Trump back to the White House because they saw someone
that reminded them of what men used to be and
of what a man can still be if they're prepared
to never take a backward step to own who they are,
(23:41):
to be unapologetically them. That's what's so incredible about Donald Trump.
No matter where he goes, Clay, it doesn't matter if
he's speaking in a rural area in the Midwest. He
doesn't put on a pair of jeans and a flannel
shirt and a cowboy hat. He's always wearing. That's the
same distinctive dark blue suit with the solid tie. He
(24:05):
doesn't change his accent like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama
and Barack Obama and all of those other fake phony Democrats.
He's always got that same distinctive queen's accent. And there
is nothing more masculine about somebody that just is who
they are and couldn't care less whether you like it
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or not. And if you don't like it, they're more
than prepared to tend you to go on pound sand
or jump in the lake.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So I wanted to have you react Nick to this,
bill Markliff. That got a lot of attention of the weekend.
It has to do with the status of the Democrat
Party and men and masculinity, and just the way the
Democrats have completely devolved into a party of emotionally destabilized wackos.
Here is he's still a Democrat, but not as crazy
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as some of them. Bill Maher, this has cut twenty
four play it if the thought leaders.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
In the Democratic Party keep encouraging and not rebuking the
idea that America is cringe and the people who run
Gaza are great. The Democrats are doomed. Alyssa Slopkin's right,
Liberals are weak and woke, especially the white ones, and
they indulge all sorts of nonsense from their kids, a
pattern that then continues on in the Democratic Party. Last election,
(25:22):
it was all the gender stuff, the insistence that men
can have babies and such, and now I fear that
we like the terrorists is the new that Liberals need
to push back on the dumb ideas that come from
their children. The Democrats problem is the energy of the
parties with the young and the younger with the terrorists.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's not good.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I don't think Nick the Democrats are actually pushing back
on this stuff though, I think that they're just hoping
they can sell it better the next time around.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
The Democrats, bak have become the poty of criminals, illegal aliens,
and perversion. That's really pretty much all they stand and
for as long as they stand for that, they're not
going to have any kind of electoral success. And Donald
Trump really is now owning so many issues that used
(26:12):
to be the domain of the left of the Democrats,
and it's a wonderful thing to see. The Democrats have
completely lost their way. Donald Trump broke them, and it's
something that I point out in my book From mar
A Lago to Mars. He broke them now to a
point where you look, politics is cyclical. Democrats, of course
(26:34):
are going to recover in some form, but for a
while now they are really going to struggle to get
out under the entire mess that they have built for themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I know you're an American citizen now, but there are
a lot of people out there in Australia, there are
a lot of people in England. There are a lot
of people who don't feel seen in these countries, and
certainly all over Europe we've seen it as well. How
important do you think, as somebody who is from a
different country but now lives here, that America's position and
(27:10):
Donald Trump's particular positions are not just significant for the
United States, but also frankly for all of Western civilization.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Look, if the world is a spider web clay, America
is right in the center of it, and any kind
of movement and the entire web shakes. I think there
was someone famous that once said that if America gets
a cough, the world catches a cold, and that still
remains the case.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It is very.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Important that people in Australia and England and Canada and
all across the world, even in the non English speaking countries,
they see the strength and the courage and the devotion
that Donald Trump has and they hope for it in
their own leadership, because here in America we know what
(28:03):
weak and stupid leaders are. I mean, we got used
to it, and now we have a president like President Trump,
who's tough and smart, the absolute antithesis, and as a result,
America is winning. I mean, look at President Trump's undefeated season.
It's incredible what's going on in the country right now.
It's like waking up every morning and it's Christmas. And
(28:26):
I know that there are people in other countries that
may not have the freedoms that America does. They don't
have a First Amendment, really, they don't have a second
Amendment at all. And these people are hoping to get
a leader that has the courage and has the strength,
and has the wisdom and has the willingness to sacrifice,
(28:50):
which is really what is just so remarkable about remarkable
about Donald Trump. He's just so willing to sacrifice everything
for what he believes in and That's why I think
about American history, Clay and Bucken, America is so lucky
compared to other countries. We had General Washington at the
(29:11):
start of our country. We had President Lincoln at the
rebirth of our country, and now we have President Trump
at the rejuvenation of our country on the eve of
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, a time when most
historians will tell you great superpowers are really in survival mode.
(29:33):
And I think it's a wonderful thing. He is a
once in a century at bare minimum type of leader.
I'm proud to have supported him from the sixteenth of
June twenty fifteen when he came down the escalator. I've
been with him from day one. This is a very
very special guy. I've been very blessed. Talk about an
(29:54):
immigration story. I mean for me to come over here
and at the age of thirty two, to be on
Air Force one, being appointed to the president, to different boards,
to have a personal relationship with him. I was just
in the Oval Office with him last month. You know,
he is somebody that we will be studying for centuries
(30:16):
to come. And that's why I write this book. From
mar Lago to Mars. President Trump's Great American comeback.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
You can pre order. You can pre order your copy
comes out May twentieth. Pre order today on Amazon. Get
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So now he just is an American clay with a
cool accent. Like you know, he's got that Miranda divine accent.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
No doubt, tremendous difference.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Nick, good luck on the book tour and we look
forward to talking to you down the line.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Thanks, boys, it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Stay strong, we'll do for sure. It's Nick Adams. Check
out the book out May twentieth. I believe is that
date from mar Lago to Mars.
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Speaker 5 (32:04):
Closing up chop here on Clay Buck. Can't believe how
fast it has Lon today. But the good news is
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Speaker 2 (32:18):
But who's counting?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
And also go check out the Clan Buck podcast network,
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do sometimes, and also a bunch of great hosts.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Dave Rutherford.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Now, Doc gonna call Sapphire for a show tomorrow caraen Mark,
which we actually have too many hosts now to be
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So go check out the network. So many good shows,
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we've got to talk back because you provide us with
great content too, beloved audience, we have a talkback here
from Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. Listen on K E N I.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Hey, guys, the show today is so important and substantive
about South Africa and other issues. So I'm just I'm
just asking, is there any chance that we could mix
in just a little bit of an update about Clay
swimming from Alcatraz by chance? That was so fun the
(33:16):
other day, just to just to have a light moment
if there's time.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thanks, Well, Pam, there's always time for a light moment.
I'll just say this, Clay and I are working this
out where we're gonna have to make me. I think
it's probably gonna be tell all the towers, but to
find a charity that Clay can do the swim for,
and then I will go in one of those little
launch boats alongside. I'll be wearing like a nice you know,
like a fleece with a hat, drinking hot cocoa or
(33:42):
some krock of coffee, drinking some hot beverage, and shouting
at Clay faster, don't give up, you know so, because
I'm a team player, Clay.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I want to know how long I can stay in
the water on average without getting hypothermia, because I'm just
gonna stick to this. I'm not going to drown if
I'm in the water. Eventually, if you have stood on
Alcatraz and looked ahead of you at San Francisco Bay,
I'm not telling you that I'm going to land at
a particular location. I'm not saying, hey, I'm gonna hit
(34:14):
peer thirty two. I am saying I will not drown,
and at some point I will reach land. And I
don't know why people are so shocked by this.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
So you might just kind of like roll on to
land with a wave and then like spit up a
bunch of water.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
In the movies, when you when you survive, well, you're
the one guy who survives the shipwreck.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To move the plata word, that will be.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You, That'll be me, it'll be just like castaway, and
except I will not stay on an island for a
long time like Tom Hanks. I will say, if I
start to get swept out to sea, I will acknowledge
if I do not want to.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I do not want to get swept out to see.
I don't want to find myself hanging to the support
structure of gold Golden Gate Bridge or the Bay Bridge.
I'm not sure which way the tides take you, whether
they take you towards the Bay Bridge or the Golden State.
So I will get rescued at some point if I
start to go out to see, because that's not ideal.
But in the bay, which is like a big tub,
(35:17):
I think, meaning like the water just kind of sloshes
around all over the place. I think I'll make it,
and I don't. I think I'll be fine. Now, somebody
asked a question. I hadn't really thought about it, and
I hope it doesn't get in my head. They were like, well,
you know a lot of people cramp. I've never cramped.
Have you ever cramped while swimming?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
People always say this, why you couldn't go swimming afterwards,
even in a pool, like you might that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, if I have a hot dog and then
I drown, Like, isn't that on me?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean, how hard is this?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I think it was just I think that's an old
wives tale designed to get moms and dads from having
to get in the pool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like you ate.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Everybody this in the nineteen eighty I don't know if
they still say it now. You just ate, you'll cramp up,
you can't get in the pool. I've never cramped. Have
you ever cramped while swimming?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
No? But now again we probably we haven't swammed very hard.
I think it's the real A lot. Well, that's a
good point.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Let's be honest, you and me. More floating than swimming,
more flow.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I think I'd be able to take breaks and float
as necessary. What I'm telling you is I will not drown,
and as long as I don't die of hypothermia, eventually
I will find sure. I really think that I will. Now,
maybe I'm wrong, Maybe this is the dumbest look. I've
made a lot of dumb arguments over the years. Maybe
this is in fact the dumbest argument I ever made.
But I'm telling you I will.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Make it to land. I will, I will be a savior.
I think I think Riley Gaines should be your guide,
sort of. She gets in the water with you to
make sure you don't drown. I wait on shore with
hot cocoa and warm cookies for both of you, cheering
you from afar.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Riley is such a good swimmer. I think that she
would be troubled. Does even keep up with me bad
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We appreciate all of you hanging out with us all
over the nation. We hope all of you had fabulous
Mother's Day and made sure that you thanked all the
mothers in your life, both mothers of your children as
well as your own mothers. And we bring in a
new part of the Clay and Buck podcast Network. We
(00:22):
are super excited to bring her in. She is a
mother as well as an expert on many different fields
of medicine. Doctor Nicole Sapphire new podcast is going to
be called Wellness Unmasked. It's in the Clay and Buck
podcast Network. It will debut tomorrow and we'll get into
that in a sect. But I believe you have two boys,
(00:42):
if I'm not mistaken, doctor Sapphire, How was your Mother's Day?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Did you do anything fun?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, guys, thanks so much for having me on. I
actually have three boys, three.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Sons with by me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Then you throw in the husband and the dogs. I
have a lot more boys.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Who takes more?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
My wife says that I take more mothering and taking
care of in terms of difficulty than the boys do.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know if that's true. Or not. But is
your husband more of a challenge or the three boys?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know what, I think they all have their equal parts,
difficult days and good days, but everybody contributes and I
love it. This was a perfect weekend Mother's Day weekend.
We had phenomenal weather in the Northeast, which is a
shock because we have had pretty bad weather for what
feels like months, and so we were essentially outside all
day every day, Saturday and Sunday, and it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Was glorious, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, tell us about the podcast, which we're super excited
to have off and running.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I am beyond thrilled to announce Wellness Unmass. It's part
of your network. We are going to be talking all
things help and wellness. You know, people say some people
don't like to talk politics, some people don't like to
talk sports, but I can tell you everyone at some
point in their life cares about their health. And there's
so much information coming out of us, out of everywhere.
(01:59):
You don't know it's true, it's not true. I mean
we all really learned that during COVID. I mean, follow
the science, listen to the experts. Welve turned out paper
wrong and a lot of things and I am known
for kind of looking at the science myself, reading the
data myself, and giving an honest opinion and honest, unfiltered opinion.
And I want to continue to do that, whether we're
talking about cold plunges or we're talking about the latest
(02:23):
research when it comes to the foods that we're eating
and potential disease. I mean, all you have to do
is turn on the radio, turn on the TV these
days and you see RFK Junior or someone else. Help
is a huge topic these days, and it is important
that we sift through it all and we kind of
break it down so it's no nonsense.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Doctor Safire, thanks for being with us, and welcome to
the podcast network. What is your reaction when you see
this big move from Trump over the weekend and more
details on it today on prescription drug prices, because again
for those of us not actually prescribing and not having
to know the name of the drugs and what they
do and operating in that world, it just seems pretty
(03:04):
straightforward that there's something wrong with as Trump says the
fat shot quote unquote, but drugs costing a whole lot
more here than they do in a lot of other countries,
including very wealthy countries.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, so anybody who has been following President Trump since
his first term knows that he has been focused on
reducing the cost of prescriptions here in the United States.
I mean, in twenty twenty four alone, Americans spent ninety
eight billion dollars out of pocket on prescription drugs. That's
twenty five percent increase in just the last five years.
During his first term, he went the old fashion route
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and he went through legislation and he tried to pass
bills to reduce drug costs. Well what happened, Well, big pharma,
the lobbyists, they all pushed back and a lot of
the changes that he tried to make the Biden administration
did not continue. And so here we are again in
the first few months of his administration, and he is
going hard after these drug companies. And it's going to
(04:04):
be unpopular because drug companies are one of the biggest
lobby powerhouses. They spend a lot on campaigns. So a
lot of your politicians out there get money from drug companies.
But what President Trump is doing, which is different than
what Biden was doing, So people will say, well, President
Biden was also working on mooring drug prices and that
is true he was, but he was specifically just doing
(04:27):
a few select drugs, specifically for those who are on Medicare,
so people who are sixty five and older. What President
Trump is saying is, we want to make sure that
Medicare is able to negotiate with these drug companies, but
we also want to expand that to Medicaid as well
as the private insurance companies. Because why should just the
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elderly have have more affordable drug prices? What about everybody else?
And so that is why this is a very big
executive order. What he's saying, we have thirty days to
come to the table drug companies. You're going to negotiate
with RFK Junior, the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
and you are going to figure out how we can
lower the cost of prescription medications here in the United States. Now,
(05:12):
you think that people are going to come out and
criticize this, I mean I think people would look pretty
bad criticizing the idea of wanting to decrease pharmaceutical cost
to Americans. I mean, that'll make them look bad. But
these are really big goals, and so we want to
make sure that it's not all talk and that they
are able to follow through with this, and so it
will take a lot of negotiations, but there's going to
(05:34):
be a lot of legal hang ups, especially when it
comes to the pharmaceutical industry. They're going to tie this
up in the legal system.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm certain of it, Nicole, doctor Sapphire not going to
call Sapphire with us right now. How would you assess
from a doctor perspective the start of the RFK Junior tenure,
because it's been very controversial. I know we've got a
new surgeon general nominee potentially coming. How would you assess
(06:03):
what doctor what RFK Junior is focused on and doctor
means I think who has now been potentially elevated as
the next surgeon general. How well do you think he
has done? What do you think he could do better?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think that the impetus between the Make America Healthy
Again movement RFT Junior and everything that they're focusing on
right now as all everything that the United States needs,
we need to be looking at our chronic illness epidemic.
I've been talking about this pre COVID. During COVID, we
saw Americans were not doing well once they got infected
with COVID because we had such an overweight population, because
(06:41):
we have so much chronic illness, and so that rendered
us vulnerable. And so to actually look at that and
not just say, well, let's just create more medications to
treat the illness, but let's figure out why we've gotten
this looking at what's in our food supply specifically. You know,
we hear our Ke Junior say all the time he's
talking about seed oils. Well, if you actually look at
seed oils, there's good data, including a new study that
(07:03):
just came out of Cornell linking lineleic acid, which is
in one of the seed oils, directly to cancer formation.
How do we have these in our food here in
the United States, but they're not allowed in food elsewhere
throughout the world. So I do applaud them at looking
at some of these things and really looking at the
root cause of our illness and not just focusing on
(07:24):
expanding access to treatment. You want to have both.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
There.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I guess we can call it drama surrounding the Surgeon
General nominee Pick. It certainly has been played out online
and I actually did respond to it myself. I put
out a video because I was getting a million text
messages phone calls, people stopping me in the hospital asking
me what my opinion was, and when it comes to
a surgeon general pick, I think they need to fit
three boxes. The first box, they have to be aligned
(07:52):
with the Make America Great Again movement and President Trump.
That means that this person needed to speak out during
COVID some way or the other. They had to either
speak out to say we should be trying everything in
terms of treating this illness when we don't have known treatments,
whether it was hydroxychloroquin hybermectin. They needed to speak out
when it was clear natural immunity and the vaccine and
(08:13):
douce immunity we're having similar effects. And when they started
pushing the mandates and vaccinations for kids, they needed to
speak out and say, let's pump the rakes for a
second and see if there is really a risk benefit
ratio there that would indicate these kids should be vaccinated
against COVID. If they didn't do that, if they weren't
a part of any of that, then they don't fit
(08:33):
that forsbox. The second box is to make America healthy again.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they have to be aligned
or have worked with RFT Junior in the past, but
they have to have been speaking about chronic illness and
prevention as well as some more natural ways to prevent illness.
And they can't just be doing it right now because
it's trendy. They have to have been doing it before
(08:56):
and now the last one. And this is what I
find very important. Our healthcare is our medical industry, public health.
We're all completely fractured since COVID because we've lost a
lot of trust, and rightfully so, and so we need
to unify our medical professionals, and we also need to
unify patients across the United States, and so we need
someone who is respected enough in the industry that physicians
(09:18):
are going to look to them, because the Surgeon General
is essentially a public figure where they are going to
be espousing the make America great again and they make
America healthy again talking points. But if they don't have
the respect of their peers, then no one's going to
listen to them, and that message is not going to
get very far and it's certainly not going to last
beyond an administration. My biggest concern about the current nominee,
(09:40):
doctor Casey Means, is while she may be very intelligent,
and she's very well spoken. She didn't even finish medical school,
so therefore she's never actually I'm sorry, she finished medical school.
She didn't finish her medical training, her residency training, and
so because she didn't finish her training, she's never been
an actively practicing physician. She doesn't fit that first box
(10:00):
of the Make America Radio Again because she wasn't seeing patients,
she wasn't treating patients, and she didn't necessarily speak out
against COVID during that time. She absolutely is aligned with
Make America Healthy Again. She is. I believe she and
RK Jr. Are actually very close, And she doesn't necessarily
fit that third box in the sense that a lot
of medical professionals are not going to look to someone
(10:22):
who never even completed their medical training to leave them.
So those are my big concerns. I think we need
to be unifying right now, and I'm not sure this
is the way to go.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Doctor Nicole Sapphire with us now. She's launching a podcast
tomorrow here on the Claim Block Network Wellness on Masked
and doctor Sapphire. If I could for a moment, sorry,
I'm now turning into the guy at the cocktail party.
Who's like, you know, my elbow kind of hurts. What
do you think it could be? I want to do
a quick I'm sure you get that right, Like, hey, Doc,
you know what's wrong with my eye?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, but a quick lightning round.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I have a couple of things I just want to
throw out to you and you can just saunas important?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Good? Yeah, where are we on saunas?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I love saunas. I especially like infrared saunas. I literally
have it looks like a sleeping bag in my house
that I laid myself in and I put my body
in because heat is really good for chronic inflammation and pain,
and it's a really good way to detoxify your body.
It also can help you increase your metabolism. It can
help you sleep if you use it in the evening time.
(11:23):
I'm a huge fan of saunas.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay, so good, because yes you can.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
They're They're everywhere here in South Florida now. So I'm
always kinda want to cold plunge.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Is it really going to.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Turn me into, you know, the best version of myself
if I jump into cold water?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
All right? I can tell you that I have not
jumped on the cold plunge bandwagon the way that you
should from a scientific standpoint, absolutely by doing that, it
does have health benefits. It decreases inflammation and it stimulates
your cardiovascular system. I hate being cold personally, which is
bizarre that I live in the Northeast, so I'll go
sit in the sauna any day, but don't talk to
(12:00):
me about cold plunging.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Clay, do you have a lightning round? Are you good?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, I was just gonna say. I convinced Buck I
love the cold plunge. Now, when we were in Miami,
we jumped in this. I mean, but I don't know
how cold you need to go, and I have my
family and the cold plunge with me.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
We were at the gym and Clay went into the
coldest plunge, which I think is like forty five degrees
or something, and I was like, Clay, you do you man?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Hey, listen, there are health benefits to it, and you
know it's trendy. I do hate to join in on
the trends, but yeah, no, I can get behind the
health benefits of it. But for me, I think there
are other ways to decrease that inflammation and stimulate the
body without being freezing cold.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
See if you guys listen to doctor Sapphire's podcast, Wellness Unmasked,
you'll get all kinds of great health advice and tips
as well as know what's going on in the world
of health, medicine, policy, all the rest. So doctor Sapphire
honored to have you with us. Thank you so much,
and we'll be talking to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's the car Doctor Nicole Sapphire now a part of
the Clay Podcast Network, which.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Kind of a madman in a cold plunge, like you
stayed in law I'll be honest with you, I would
have bet against you staying in the cold plunge as
long as you did. You know, they have this stuff
now at some of these gyms in Florida where you
go the cold plunge, and they got the sauna and
they got all these things, and I was I was
a little bit impressed. I was totally whimping out on
that one.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know what's funny is if you tell me somebody
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wife was like, well, Joe Rogan does this for like
five minutes at a time, because I was only doing
like two minutes, and I was like, Joe Rogan does
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Speaker 5 (15:23):
All right, welcome back in to Clay en Buck. We
got a friend Nick Adams joining here in a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh is he the most maga Australian of all?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I think you would argue is arguing near the top
of the Australian Maga Power rankings for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, so so he'll be with us talk about Trump's
amazing come back, his new book. We got a bunch
of talkbacks. We love the talkbacks. And here, uh well,
we'll do this one. Bb first up here listener, June.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Clay and Buck love you guys.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Love the show.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Buck, you crack me up with your impersonations.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I can't tell if I like your Fauci, Newsome or
Bernie better, but you rock them all. Keep it up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Thank you very much. I appreciate that we have some fun.
We have some fun with that one.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I think Fauci is still my favorite. That Newsome as
the evil Keanu Reeves is more relevant, probably because Fauci's
just kind of vanished. I don't remember last time I
really saw.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Well with Newsome, we've created a whole visual image of
you two guys drinking chardonnay, you know, at French laundry together,
fancy guys, because you're always like, I mean, he's kind
of he's kind of slick.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's kind of handsome, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, Newsom is a handsome man. I'm a bit
disappointed that we invited him on the show. He just
has blown us off. I'm happy to go have a
nice chardonnay with him, sit down and just talk about
you know things, and maybe you could.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Get to stop ruining California. You would actually be able
to do a great service, Like, hey, Gavin, stop ruining
a great I love California, a great state.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Newsom needs to go full Costanza and just do the
opposite of everything that he's been trying to do for
I think he could get California back up and rolling
pretty quick. I think we got another listener CCP.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
After Rush passed away and a certain someone got elected
to be president and sort of went away from talk
radio for a bit. But I don't I can't say
you guys have replaced Rush, because I don't think anybody
could replace Rush. But you've made your own space that's
(17:26):
on par with the quality.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, that's an incredible endorsement. That's Jeff a podcast listener
who wih in there. And you know we don't take
for granted that we get to talk to you guys
every single day.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
He never replaced it. I don't think we agree with that.
We don't think anyone can replace Russia. No one could
or should or has, but we try to continue to
fight for his.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Audience day in and day out. That's exactly right, that's
the goal.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
We'll talk talk to Nick Adams for a second and
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Com Australia's manliest man at least that supports dot Trump.
Crocodile Hunter's dad. I think maybe you is with us now.
Nick Adams got a brand new book out. We'll ask
him about that. Who would you say, as an Australian
is the manliest man in Australia right now? Because I
think it might have been the crocodile Hunter back in
(19:15):
the day, right, Steve Irwin? But who would you say
is the manliest man in Australia now? Is that a
title that you would be happy to aspire to?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Say, look, it certainly was me up until twenty and sixteen,
given that I am now an American.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Really, when you had to relinquish the title manliest man
in Australia to become an American?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I did?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I did, actually, And even though I relinquished the title,
it was still an upgrade Clay. So I believe I'm
firmly in contention for the manliest man in America now too,
up there with you, of course and our good friend Buck.
But it's a tight competition. But I hopefully we'll pit
you boys at the post.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Nick, appreciate you being here with us from Marl go
to Mars. President Trump's Great American Comeback? What are you
telling everybody about in the book that they need to hear?
What is the I mean, I think we have a
sense of where it's going because of what the title is.
But what for you is the most the most sillient
points about what Clay and I have turned that. I'm
(20:18):
sure you'd agree the greatest political comeback in history.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Definitely the greatest political comeback in history. Look, Buck, the
reality is, I've written a few books, but this is
the first book I've written that is as much a
self help book as it is a political and historic
Americana book. This is a book that really provides a
manual for people to win on the battlefield that we
(20:43):
call life, all based on what we saw President Trump
do over the last three to four years, how he
managed to not just survive but thrive despite the unparalleled
adversity that he was subjected to. I mean, let's just
think about it. He was censored, he was deplatformed, They
(21:06):
tried to bankrupt him, They impeached him twice, arrested, sued, indicted,
They tried to kill him twice. That we know of
This is a man that had so much thrown at him,
and yet he never ever once compromised even an inch,
never retreated, never ever went back on anything that he said,
(21:30):
even though it would have been much more expedient, much
easier for him to do so. He's never stopped fighting
for the American people, for the people that have been
forgotten and abandoned by America's political elite. And there is
a Donald Trump, I think in all of us. And
that's what I wanted to capture in from mar A
Lago to Mars President Trump's Great American Comeback. I wanted
(21:51):
to really get people to understand that you too can
get through life if you apply the principles that Donald
Trump as of being able to turn every setback into
a setup for a comeback through positive thinking, through just
never ever giving up. And I think that there are
(22:13):
so many things that we can learn from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Nick, Why do you think white, Black, Asian, Hispanic young
men are breaking towards Trump in such a degree? Certainly
we saw this in the twenty twenty four election. You
spend a lot of time talking to younger guys through
social media. What do you think is attracting them? To Trump,
And why do you think we're seeing this cultural shift
(22:38):
that's so prominent not only among young white, Black, Asian
Hispanic men, but also among athletes where supporting Trump has
become cool in a way that it was not in
Trump one point zero.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Clay, he's the ultimate man's man. He doesn't apologize, he
is authentic, he is bald. He has what I like
to coin testi fortitude, a term that you and I
are very very familiar with, and young men relate to that.
Young men love that, and those that can't relate to
(23:12):
it aspire to have it and are attracted to it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So that's the.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Reason that I think young men turned out in record
numbers last year in twenty twenty four to bring President
Trump back to the White House because they saw someone
that reminded them of what men used to be and
of what a man can still be if they're prepared
to never take a backward step to own who they are,
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to be unapologetically them. That's what's so incredible about Donald Trump.
No matter where he goes, Clay, it doesn't matter if
he's speaking in a rural area in the Midwest. He
doesn't put on a pair of jeans and a flannel
shirt and a cowboy hat. He's always wearing. That's the
same distinctive dark blue suit with the solid tie. He
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doesn't change his accent like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama
and Barack Obama and all of those other fake phony Democrats.
He's always got that same distinctive queen's accent. And there
is nothing more masculine about somebody that just is who
they are and couldn't care less whether you like it
(24:28):
or not. And if you don't like it, they're more
than prepared to tend you to go on pound sand
or jump in the lake.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So I wanted to have you react Nick to this,
bill Markliff. That got a lot of attention of the weekend.
It has to do with the status of the Democrat
Party and men and masculinity, and just the way the
Democrats have completely devolved into a party of emotionally destabilized wackos.
Here is he's still a Democrat, but not as crazy
(24:57):
as some of them. Bill Maher, this has cut twenty
four play it if the thought leaders.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
In the Democratic Party keep encouraging and not rebuking the
idea that America is cringe and the people who run
Gaza are great. The Democrats are doomed. Alyssa Slopkin's right,
Liberals are weak and woke, especially the white ones, and
they indulge all sorts of nonsense from their kids, a
pattern that then continues on in the Democratic Party. Last election,
(25:22):
it was all the gender stuff, the insistence that men
can have babies and such, and now I fear that
we like the terrorists is the new that Liberals need
to push back on the dumb ideas that come from
their children. The Democrats problem is the energy of the
parties with the young and the younger with the terrorists.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's not good.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I don't think Nick the Democrats are actually pushing back
on this stuff though, I think that they're just hoping
they can sell it better the next time around.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
The Democrats, bak have become the poty of criminals, illegal aliens,
and perversion. That's really pretty much all they stand and
for as long as they stand for that, they're not
going to have any kind of electoral success. And Donald
Trump really is now owning so many issues that used
(26:12):
to be the domain of the left of the Democrats,
and it's a wonderful thing to see. The Democrats have
completely lost their way. Donald Trump broke them, and it's
something that I point out in my book From mar
A Lago to Mars. He broke them now to a
point where you look, politics is cyclical. Democrats, of course
(26:34):
are going to recover in some form, but for a
while now they are really going to struggle to get
out under the entire mess that they have built for themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I know you're an American citizen now, but there are
a lot of people out there in Australia, there are
a lot of people in England. There are a lot
of people who don't feel seen in these countries, and
certainly all over Europe we've seen it as well. How
important do you think, as somebody who is from a
different country but now lives here, that America's position and
(27:10):
Donald Trump's particular positions are not just significant for the
United States, but also frankly for all of Western civilization.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Look, if the world is a spider web clay, America
is right in the center of it, and any kind
of movement and the entire web shakes. I think there
was someone famous that once said that if America gets
a cough, the world catches a cold, and that still
remains the case.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It is very.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Important that people in Australia and England and Canada and
all across the world, even in the non English speaking countries,
they see the strength and the courage and the devotion
that Donald Trump has and they hope for it in
their own leadership, because here in America we know what
(28:03):
weak and stupid leaders are. I mean, we got used
to it, and now we have a president like President Trump,
who's tough and smart, the absolute antithesis, and as a result,
America is winning. I mean, look at President Trump's undefeated season.
It's incredible what's going on in the country right now.
It's like waking up every morning and it's Christmas. And
(28:26):
I know that there are people in other countries that
may not have the freedoms that America does. They don't
have a First Amendment, really, they don't have a second
Amendment at all. And these people are hoping to get
a leader that has the courage and has the strength,
and has the wisdom and has the willingness to sacrifice,
(28:50):
which is really what is just so remarkable about remarkable
about Donald Trump. He's just so willing to sacrifice everything
for what he believes in and That's why I think
about American history, Clay and Bucken, America is so lucky
compared to other countries. We had General Washington at the
(29:11):
start of our country. We had President Lincoln at the
rebirth of our country, and now we have President Trump
at the rejuvenation of our country on the eve of
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, a time when most
historians will tell you great superpowers are really in survival mode.
(29:33):
And I think it's a wonderful thing. He is a
once in a century at bare minimum type of leader.
I'm proud to have supported him from the sixteenth of
June twenty fifteen when he came down the escalator. I've
been with him from day one. This is a very
very special guy. I've been very blessed. Talk about an
(29:54):
immigration story. I mean for me to come over here
and at the age of thirty two, to be on
Air Force one, being appointed to the president, to different boards,
to have a personal relationship with him. I was just
in the Oval Office with him last month. You know,
he is somebody that we will be studying for centuries
(30:16):
to come. And that's why I write this book. From
mar Lago to Mars. President Trump's Great American comeback.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
You can pre order. You can pre order your copy
comes out May twentieth. Pre order today on Amazon. Get
those book numbers skyrocketing for our friend, American friend, Nick Adams.
So now he just is an American clay with a
cool accent. Like you know, he's got that Miranda divine accent.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
No doubt, tremendous difference.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Nick, good luck on the book tour and we look
forward to talking to you down the line.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Thanks, boys, it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Stay strong, we'll do for sure. It's Nick Adams. Check
out the book out May twentieth. I believe is that
date from mar Lago to Mars.
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Speaker 5 (32:04):
Closing up chop here on Clay Buck. Can't believe how
fast it has Lon today. But the good news is
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And also go check out the Clan Buck podcast network,
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from Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. Listen on K E N I.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Hey, guys, the show today is so important and substantive
about South Africa and other issues. So I'm just I'm
just asking, is there any chance that we could mix
in just a little bit of an update about Clay
swimming from Alcatraz by chance? That was so fun the
(33:16):
other day, just to just to have a light moment
if there's time.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thanks, Well, Pam, there's always time for a light moment.
I'll just say this, Clay and I are working this
out where we're gonna have to make me. I think
it's probably gonna be tell all the towers, but to
find a charity that Clay can do the swim for,
and then I will go in one of those little
launch boats alongside. I'll be wearing like a nice you know,
like a fleece with a hat, drinking hot cocoa or
(33:42):
some krock of coffee, drinking some hot beverage, and shouting
at Clay faster, don't give up, you know so, because
I'm a team player, Clay.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I want to know how long I can stay in
the water on average without getting hypothermia, because I'm just
gonna stick to this. I'm not going to drown if
I'm in the water. Eventually, if you have stood on
Alcatraz and looked ahead of you at San Francisco Bay,
I'm not telling you that I'm going to land at
a particular location. I'm not saying, hey, I'm gonna hit
(34:14):
peer thirty two. I am saying I will not drown,
and at some point I will reach land. And I
don't know why people are so shocked by this.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
So you might just kind of like roll on to
land with a wave and then like spit up a
bunch of water.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
In the movies, when you when you survive, well, you're
the one guy who survives the shipwreck.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To move the plata word, that will be.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You, That'll be me, it'll be just like castaway, and
except I will not stay on an island for a
long time like Tom Hanks. I will say, if I
start to get swept out to sea, I will acknowledge
if I do not want to.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I do not want to get swept out to see.
I don't want to find myself hanging to the support
structure of gold Golden Gate Bridge or the Bay Bridge.
I'm not sure which way the tides take you, whether
they take you towards the Bay Bridge or the Golden State.
So I will get rescued at some point if I
start to go out to see, because that's not ideal.
But in the bay, which is like a big tub,
(35:17):
I think, meaning like the water just kind of sloshes
around all over the place. I think I'll make it,
and I don't. I think I'll be fine. Now, somebody
asked a question. I hadn't really thought about it, and
I hope it doesn't get in my head. They were like, well,
you know a lot of people cramp. I've never cramped.
Have you ever cramped while swimming?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
People always say this, why you couldn't go swimming afterwards,
even in a pool, like you might that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, if I have a hot dog and then
I drown, Like, isn't that on me?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean, how hard is this?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I think it was just I think that's an old
wives tale designed to get moms and dads from having
to get in the pool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like you ate.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Everybody this in the nineteen eighty I don't know if
they still say it now. You just ate, you'll cramp up,
you can't get in the pool. I've never cramped. Have
you ever cramped while swimming?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
No? But now again we probably we haven't swammed very hard.
I think it's the real A lot. Well, that's a
good point.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Let's be honest, you and me. More floating than swimming,
more flow.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I think I'd be able to take breaks and float
as necessary. What I'm telling you is I will not drown,
and as long as I don't die of hypothermia, eventually
I will find sure. I really think that I will. Now,
maybe I'm wrong, Maybe this is the dumbest look. I've
made a lot of dumb arguments over the years. Maybe
this is in fact the dumbest argument I ever made.
But I'm telling you I will.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Make it to land. I will, I will be a savior.
I think I think Riley Gaines should be your guide,
sort of. She gets in the water with you to
make sure you don't drown. I wait on shore with
hot cocoa and warm cookies for both of you, cheering
you from afar.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Riley is such a good swimmer. I think that she
would be troubled. Does even keep up with me bad
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