June 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump promises biggest deportation in U.S. history, but will GOP have guts to back him up on it? Biden to issue executive orders on border. Stephen A. Smith on Caitlin Clark. WNBA players hate Caitlin Clark because she's a straight, white woman, despite what she's bringing to their sport. Caitlin Clark callers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Power three play and Buck kicks off. Now appreciate you
being with us. Much to discuss. As we know, the
conviction of Donald Trump came down last week and the
Trump campaign is charging forward. This is certainly not going
to stop Trump, and there's plenty of reason to believe
that it might energize his base. It might energize even
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more than that with the American people seeing the Lawfare
campaign continuing to unfold in a way that is just
a disgrace to our system of justice in this country.
Clear election interference, obvious rigging of the upcoming political contest
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this fall. So with all that going on, Trump is
not backing down an inch. He is, for example, pointing
out that Biden is, in case you were wondering, the
worst president, this is cut seven, the worst president in
the history of the country.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Play it now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The impeachment drive proved that there were no crimes, much
less high crimes and misdemeanors committed by the president. This
investigation of doctor Fauci shows that he is an honorable
public servant, committed to public health, and he is not
a comic book super villain. He did not fund research
to create the COVID nineteen pandemic. He did not lie
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to Congress about gain of function research in Wuhan, and
he did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Cover his tracks.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
These are outrageous concoctions, fabrications, and distortions.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Wichi is not a good dude.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But that also was not Biden being called out as
being the worst president ever.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, so I'm going to assume that we're having a
little disconnect on the clip situation here for a second.
I'm just going to speak on the radio and we'll
get this squared away in a little bit. In the meantime,
Trump is saying that he's going to dotations. He said,
quote the biggest ever. It's gonna be the biggest deportations
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in history. Meanwhile, Joe Biden Clay, I don't know if
you called this. I know it's cut nine. Just cut nine.
Actually mean cut nine this time because cut seven was
something else. Let's try let's try cut nine.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Now, I'm gonna do the big deportation, the biggest ever.
Eisenhower did the biggest. This will be bigger. But it's
a very tough thing. What they've done to our country
is unthinkable, because you know, the radical left is going
to start saying, oh lovely, so you'll get rid of
ten really bad ones and one, you know, beautiful mother
who they think is s guilty of something and maybe
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she is, maybe, and it'll become a story or a
family that's a good family and came in wrong, and
you know they're going to show it. Then it's going
to always be tough. It's not going to be easy,
and we have to use a lot of good judgment.
But the way you get rid of him is the
local police.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So he's saying there's gonna be massive deportations. Meanwhile, play
Biden is there telling everybody he's expected to issue a
quote long anticipated executive order tomorrow they believe to partially
shut down asylum processing along the US Mexico border. This
is reporting by CBS News, which I'm sure has plenty
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of people in the Biden White House that are happy
to feed them news stories. So Biden taking action at
the border because he realizes I think this is one
of the greatest vulnerabilities that the Biden administration has not
talked about as much in the news cycle as it
had previously been. But still, if you look at the numbers,
Biden is going to have to contend with eight million
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illegals in four years entering the United States on his watch,
and I know the number is higher than that, but
it's at least eight million officially is going to be
the final number.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I think also, this is their long range plan. They
really firmly leave that it's going to be virtually impossible
to ever get these people out of the country. I
think that's their plan. And I understand the argument from
Trump of We're going to begin the largest deportation in
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American history, But do you know what's going to happen.
As soon as the deportation starts, AOC is going to
put on her white outfit and she's going to go
stand outside of some deportation camp and she's gonna cry,
and it's going to be the lead story on ABC, NBC, CBS,
everybody out there, certainly MSNBC and CNN. Republicans who are
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really weak just cannot manage or stomach any criticism at all,
will go all week in the knees and this I'm
just predicting flag this. As soon as the public criticism starts,
they will have it here the deportations. They'll talk about
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how moms and dads are being taken away from their kids.
All of this is going to make it virtually impossible
to say nothing buck of the fact that by the
time we start some of these deportations, people are going
to be in this country. They're going to be married,
They're gonna have had kids, which means their kids are
American citizens. I'm just predicting how all this is going
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to go. Democrats create the problem, and then as soon
as the solution has tried to be put in place,
they're going to lose their minds over the solution and
their ultimate goal, Make no mistake about it, is all
these people are. They want to be citizens, and they
want them voting. That's what's going on. They're playing the
long game here, and even if you're a great president,
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Trump only gets four years. They know that you're never
going to really have the consistency that you need to
solve the border problem. Once they let in eight ten
What do you even think is the over under number
legit of illegal immigrants that are in the United States
right now?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I would guess that it's eight million that have entered
through the phony asylum process that they do across the
US Mexican border, and then something like a half a
million got aways plus visa overstays, which is another way
that people become illegals in the country. They just come
and say, you know, I'm on a tourist visa and
they never go home.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh. And the you know they.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Often need is to join family members or whatever who
are here. So I would say eight point five. I
mean I would sorry ten million. I think the actual
number of additional illegals who have entered the United States
while Joe Biden has been president is ten million.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Okay, So think about that number, and I don't think
that's a crazy number at all. I think that's a
very reasonable number.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of the official is already six million, right, I mean,
the official I think is like six point five. Just
so everyone's clear, I'm just adding the final year of
Biden call it a million five and then adding god
aways and visa overstays.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Right. So I don't think ten million, is it might be? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Actually, I think that's a very reasonable realistic number.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You want to know. I mean, this is crazy to
think about.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
If you look at populations, most states don't have ten
million people in them. In fact, Michigan, the state of
Michigan has ten million people in it right now. It
is the tenth biggest state in the country right now,
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ten million people in Michigan. We effectively have brought to
bear the state of Michigan and just put it in
this country full of illegal immigrants. More people than live
in New Jersey, Virginia, Washington State, Arizona, Tennessee. If you've
ever visited any of these states, Massachusetts, if you've ever
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driven through any of these states. My home state of
Tennessee has around seven million people. It's a big geographic state,
seven million people. There are three million more illegals than
exist right now in the entire state of Tennessee. Virginia
ain't a small state, eight point seven million total population.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Washington Airs.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean, this is crazy to think about how many
people they have brought in. Do you agree with me though,
that as soon as if Trump wins and Steven Miller
is going to be in charge of this and I
have one hundred percent believe that they will begin the
process of deportation. Democrats are going to lose their mind
over illegal immigrants being taken out of this country, and
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a lot of Republicans are going to go weaken the
knees and they're going to stop it. I'm just telling
it might take six months. We're not going to get
four years of deportation, which is how long it would
take to actually kick people out. Now, the positive is
if you start to send some people out, you're at
least sending the message all throughout the world that our
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borders aren't wide open. But Trump's only got four years.
Even if he wins in twenty twenty eight, they'll just
go back to the same game plan. They're playing a
multi generational game here, and any one or two year
finger in the damn situation is they're going to ridicule
the attempt to try to fix it. It also goes
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to the lawlessness and the destruction of the rule of
law that Democrats have embraced for political purposes. The same
law that they claim could send Donald Trump to prison
for four years. When I say the same law, I
mean the same system of law, the same system of
law that now could send Hunter Biden to prison for
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I don't know how many years federal prison for the
gun case is a law that says that if you're
not in the country legally, you are supposed to be
deported and what they've done is they've taken that to
be well, we have law enforcement priorities, and so we're
going to only deploy people if they're violent felons, and
even then we're not going to deport a lot of
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them because we basically want to just nullify immigration law.
That has become the official Democrat I'm sorry, sent to
the official the day facto Democrat party position on immigration
is that immigration laws don't count, they aren't really the law.
The problem with that is the same laws that Congress
gives us about you know, Trump and all these prosecutions
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that they're bringing against them and classified information, and the
same congress or same congressional authority is used for laws
about the border and the enforcement thereof. So if you
ignore one, you actually undermine all the rest of it too,
Or rather, if you ignore a whole area of law,
you do damage to the entire system. And that's what
they're doing on the illegal immigration issue. They are doing
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it to the expense of the sovereignty of this nation,
of really our ability to perpetuate ourselves and consider ourselves
a true nation state going forward. They're erode the foundation
of what brings us all together as Americans, and you
know they're still gonna lock you up for not paying
your taxes. But you can just come here and do
whatever you want, not pay taxes and not be not
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be legal in the first place, and that's fine. Why
because if you're a dependent and as we know, there's
a disproportionate amount of illegals, for example, who are going
to need state resources, government resources, say oh, they can't
get it. Please, I know the games. Okay, they come here,
they have a child, and then all of a sudden,
the child is getting federal resources because it's a US citizen.
Now you can't deport I mean, you go down the
list of all these things and you see, Clay. I
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don't know how this gets solved. I worry that the
American people are waking up to this problem too late.
To your point about Donald Trump. Even if Trump keeps
his word and he's like, guys, I'm sorry, you're illegal,
you gotta go, and we're gonna do these deportations, it's
Republicans who are gonna sell them out.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I can't I can't lie. I know you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I can't lie to people, and that's not a lie,
but I can't mislead people by saying I think Republicans
as a party have the backbone for this. I am
not convinced that all that they do, and I don't
know if Donald Trump would have the votes for his
own party to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He might be as the executive, as a commander in chief,
in a role where he can do a lot without Congress,
but Republicans will not back him up on this, and
a lot of them will find a way to say.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, but you know, we're a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You know, there's all the stuff the poet the poem
on the foot of the Statue of Liberty. Show up
in another country and be like, I want you guys
to let me in pay for all my stuff, and
I want to complain about how you're not nice enough
to me. Try that in some other country as an
American and see how that goes for you. I was
even reading I bet a lot of people are going
on vacation to start the summer. The rates of hotels
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have skyrocketed in New York City because so many of
the hotel rooms are now taken up by migrants.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I don't know that people have even realized this. A
lot of these hotels they're getting. I think that it's
one hundred and eighty five dollars a night for three
and four star hotels all over Manhattan, and as a result,
there are way fewer hotel rooms than there used to be.
Now they've also done away with Airbnb basically unless you're
staying for a month or longer in New York City.
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But it's now starting to get challenging to get hotel
rooms because so many migrants are showing up and getting
four star and three star hotel rooms to live in
for free in New York City.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Take your calls on it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Speaker 4 (16:07):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck, I
want to set the table for you because I think
this is I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I am stunned how big of a story this has become.
But all weekend long foxnews dot Com OutKick, millions of
people are clicking on the Caitlin Clark story WNBA basketball player.
She is getting mistreated horribly in the WNBA. I think
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to a large extent it's because she's a white girl
who happens to be heterosexual. I'm gonna play a cut
for you and then we'll react to it a bit
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is stephen A. Smith today on ESPN.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
There are girls, young ladies in the WNBA who are
jealous of Caitlyn Clark. She is a white girl that
has come into the league. She has bursted onto the scene.
She hasn't proven herself yet.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
It's not even about them thinking they're better than her,
because they probably know it at this particular juncture because
they've been playing on a.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Level she just arrived to.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Where the resentment comes in is the hard work, the commitment,
the dedication, you know, the pounding of the payment that
being on the grind all of these years trying to
uplift this brand that is the WNBA and is women's
professional basketball, and all of their efforts were in vain
until this girl comes along and takes the league by storm.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
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and Company. Welcome back in team. Okay, so we just
played this Stephen A. Smith, who's a very famous sports analyst.
I think everyone knows that, but I say it just
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so I can, you know, set the table everyone. I
know what I'm talking about too, Steven A. Smith, very
famous sports panalyst fellow. I was talking about the Caitlin
Clark issue. I saw Clay's posts on X over the
week and with video of a very clearly nasty just
not a foul really just a almost.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Like cheap shot, just a cheap shot.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, I mean, not not quite like Tanya Harding
level cheap shot, but you know, a cheap shot like
just meant to hurt somebody or you know, injure them
from another WNBA player. It has now been called a
flagrant foul. But people are saying, Okay, what's really going
on here? And I'm just gonna hand it over to
my man, Clay, who can tell me what is going
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on in the WNBA from your extensive WNBA why.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I was just talking with our producer Ali off Air
about this, and I think Ali's sitting there in New York, Ali,
have you ever cared about any women's basketball story?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In your entire life. No, never really paid attention. Okay,
do you care about the Caitlin Clark story.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm intrigued by it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
This is so that is a perfect approximation. It's rare
that I see because I get to see the data.
What are people clicking on? What do people care about?
Most of the time, I am not surprised by what
people click on and what people care about.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's the business that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Over the weekend, millions of people were clicking on this
Caitlin Clark story about the cheap shot that you just referenced.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It has cut across lines.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I mean, we got multiple people booked on Fox News
to talk about this from OutKick in a way that
rarely do sports stories connect. And so I'm curious for
our audience out there. Are you following this and paying
attention to it. My suspicion is the answer is yes,
because again, I see all of the Fox News data,
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I see the OutKick data, and that overlaps with our
audience to a large extent. I think, what's going on here, buck,
Kaitlin Clark is white. I think that's a big part
of the story here in terms of her treatment. But
I also think it's that she's straight. There are not
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a lot of straight women's basketball players, and so in
the WNBA, Caitlin Clark, as a straight white woman, is
just getting wrecked on the court and ridiculed and attacked
in a way that I can never remember any male
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athlete being treated of any race. And of course, if
this were a minority in a majority white league and
this happened, it would be a huge story. Oh my goodness,
look at the latent racism that's going on here. I'm
fascinated by it. I'm curious what your analysis would be,
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because I know you've been kind of following this somewhat too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Smith is now pointing out the race and not as
much the sexuality. But I do think that fat actors
in here, these WNBA women, even though Caitlin Clark is
bringing tens of millions of dollars to their league because
they've been playing for thirty years and nobody cares, she
somehow has cut through the noise and people care about her,
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much like I would say Tiger Woods when he came
to golf, brought a whole new audience to golf, and
everybody benefited Suddenly, if you won the Masters, you made
a lot more money than you did before. But it
was seen as a super positive. By and large, Tiger
was welcomed into golf. Everybody was like, Okay, this is great.
We're gonna all make more money. People care about us more.
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These girls are just trying to wreck Caitlin Clark. I
think if they could injure her and knock her out
for the season, they would be happy to do so well.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think it's also worth asking, what do you call it?
If someone chooses, or I should chooses? Isn't really the
right word?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What do you call it?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
If somebody despises a person because that person is white
and straight? Is that not me? I mean, is that
not it is? If that's not the word, what is
the word, right? I mean, what are we going to
call it? I guess you could say it's, uh, it's racism.
I don't like the term reverse racism because that plays
into some left wing narrative. It's just racism, right, If
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you don't like somebody because of their skin color, that's racism.
It seems to me like it's the ultimate loser mentality
for a person who as their profession is doing something
that will benefit from the presence of greater attention, more
money coming into the league, and still chooses to effectively
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spit on that person or that change in public attention.
You should want this. I mean, you know, I had
a friend who played. Years ago. I worked with a
guy he played professional lacrosse, and I asked him, in
all honesty, I was like, I didn't even know there
was such a thing as professional lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He goes yeah, He goes, yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I played in the season and I made like twenty
grand and had a full time job. It wasn't you know,
to say you're a pro lacrosse is not to say
like you're a pro MB You know, you're an NBA
player or something making ten million, thirty million, whatever a year.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
If somebody came along and was getting paid tens of
millions of dollars in endorsement money to be a professional
lacrosse player, you'd have to be an imbecile to think
that it's a good idea to destroy that person because
a rising tide will lift all boats and it's better
for the entire enterprise.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, That's where I think this just shows it's just
years of a loser mentality of we don't make any money,
nobody cares. There's a bitterness that seems to be behind
any decision to try to hurt a rising star who,
as usually have pointed out, it's going to make a
lot of money for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
In this industry, in this in this league, the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, and I would be curious to hear from other people.
But the way that they are paying attention eight hundred
and two A two two eight A two is we're
closing out the show today. The cultural impact of Caitlin Clark,
this is one that I was wrong on. I did
not think that eighteen million or whatever the number is
people were going to watch the Iowa women play against
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LSU for the national championship.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's that number. Stunned me. Do you remember Jeremy Lynn
in the NBA? Yeah, I know, yeah, Lin Sanity, Yes, And.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And you know, there was this moment where people were like, wow,
this guy is all of a sudden, you know, and look,
he didn't have a big career and he wasn't a
great NBA player, but he's in the NBA and he
just completely caught fire for a while and was scoring
crazy amounts of points and had some had some really
big games. And I think that there was an understanding
because the NBA is a big business. It's like, oh,
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a lot of people and particularly overseas, a lot of
people were really really excited about this about lind sanity,
and so it can only help exposure in the Asian
TV market, which is absolutely it's the biggest, you know
market in the world.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Why was so big and why show hey is so
big in Major League Baseball. The bigger the markets of
people that care about your sport, the more money everybody makes, right, right?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But this is what I mean in the NBA, because
it's a successful business. I think there's just an understanding
of like, oh, Lin Senne is great. If we have
you know, millions more people in China or Japan or
you know any of the above watching, that just ups
our contrary. You know, everyone makes more money on their contracts.
Everybody has more viewers. I mean, people want to have
as many viewers as possible for their games, right, professional pride,
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everybody wins.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't remember, Yeah, I mean you could.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Have pointed out the guy, but you know, okay, so
he wasn't Michael Jordan, but nobody said he was right.
The point was he was bringing new interest and new
eyeballs to an entertainment endeavor, which is what sports is,
as you will know, but an entertainment endeavor. So in
this case, the fact that there is resentment, like I said,
it just comes from such a loser mentality.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I also think this is an important time, and I've
been making this argument for it feels like fifteen years.
You mentioned the reverse racism idea. I would love for
politician to just come out and say white people, Asian people,
black people, Hispanic people.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Every race has racist.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
The only way we define racism in America is white
too black.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And when you create a.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
World everybody else actually yeah, well but primarily white to black.
But yes, white people are the only racist in the
way we talk about racism in America. That has not
been my experience. And I think if you're around our age,
you have lived long enough to have met people who
are racist across every racial group, right, And and the
(27:43):
fact that we can't have a conversation about that, to me,
this is evidence of what's going on with Clark.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
She's actually the minority here. She's the white girl in
a predominantly black league. She is the straight girl in
a predominantly lesbian league. He is the minority. The white
heterosexual girl is the minority, and the majority is ganging
up against her. And I think that story it blows
(28:13):
people's minds because they've we've been so conditioned for so
long to follow what I would say, Buck is the
TA Kill a Mockingbird storyline, great novel, go read it,
Harper Lee. But the idea is white woman is the liar,
black man is the victim. We've been so conditioned to
(28:33):
see that white racism against black which is a redress
for generations of racism. But if you are around our age,
if you grew up in the eighties, the nineties, the
early two thousands, I legitimately believe, if you're around forty
years old, you didn't grow up in a segregated South.
(28:56):
You didn't grow up in a Jim Crow America. Most
people born from nineteen eighty ish on have grown up
in a fairly egalitarian, equality drenched society. And what happened
post Obama was people said, oh, well, everything is not
a perfect reflection of the racial population in America. So
(29:19):
that must be because of racism. I just fundamentally reject that,
and so we moved from equality to equity. And I
think this Caitlin Clark connection is actually part of a
larger conversation that we should be having where she's getting
legitimately bullied and beaten up because of her race and
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her gender.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I mean, you can take race out of this and
sexual orientation out of this entirely. Because I watch I
have always played and watched tennis since I was very young,
and so I'm very familiar with tennis. There was a
time when Annakornicova was the highest paid female tennis player
in the world and I believe the highest paid female
athlete in the world. And I think around that time
(30:04):
she was ranked number like seventy for women's tennis.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I think she got up to like the top fifteen
in her career, best possible.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That was the highest ever class she was usually like
barely in the top Sea's.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Gorgeous for people who don't remember Anna Kornakova, which looks
like she looks like a swimsuit model, like you know
that was she's a model, yes, you.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Know, yeah, and and you know she was making tens
of millions of dollars a year in endorsements. Now, I
understand that people could say, well, that's not fair. The
number one female tennis player in the world should be
making the most money. However, if you were to look
as a business at the increased attention, viewership, and sponsor
dollars into women's tennis, women's tennis now is really one.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Of the I think.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't know if there is another sport quite like this,
you'd have to tell me. But in the biggest you know,
the US Open, for example, parody in the purse between
men's and women's. Yeah, you know, you could say, I.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Think that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I mean now they have more so in soccer now
because of the way they thought about it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
But that's just socialism though, Like people really do watch
women's tennis in huge number, Like the women's final at
the US Open is not something It's not like doubles,
which I feel sad, but like no one really watches doubles.
Serena was way more popular than any men's American tennis player.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes, I mean, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Hundreds of millions of dollars, So I'm just saying there
are times when your sport, when your enterprise gets attention
and dollars that will benefit everybody. But a short sighted
view and a view based and resentment can make that
more difficult. And I think that's what you're seeing in
the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think that's right. We'll take some of your calls.
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Speaker 4 (33:05):
Welcome back in, Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Several of
you went away in. We'll dive into some of those
in a minute. I will mention Caitlin Clark's boyfriend liked
tweets saying that the girls basketball team needed an enforcer
to just start wrecking some of the girls who were
(33:26):
hitting and treating their treating his fiance his girlfriend unfairly.
And the funny thing to me to think about here
is if a dude pretending to be a girl decided
he wanted to be the enforcer. I mean, you just
put Dennis Rodman in a long wig, and I feel
(33:46):
like that dude could go out even at fifty five
or sixty whatever he is, and wreck some girls to
protect Caitlin Clark also be heroic. According to liberals Patty
in New Jersey, what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (33:59):
It really bought about the fact that like women just
can't stick together with being women, Like we have to
like further seat to like divide this on race and whatever.
I mean, the girl is talented, no denying, she's a white,
straight woman. Can't we just like support her and just
you know, like can't just women unify like the whole,
(34:20):
like like making the division with race. It just it
annoys me.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And why do we think it's actually a good question, Patty?
Why do you think that doesn't happen in men's sports?
I can't think of I know, in hockey, like the
goal scorers get wrecked up and they're enforcers, but that's
kind of a part of the game. And why do
you think I can't think of a rookie who's come
into a male sport and been treated like this.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Why do you think it is?
Speaker 10 (34:44):
Because it just doesn't happen. And you guys made a
good point before. It doesn't even happen in other women's sports,
like you know, and again that like you know, the
tide rising all boats like can't we just have this
here like it's just it's very frustrating. I think race
tends to get inserted in everything lately to divide everything,
(35:04):
and even with like the entertainment things like sports. You know,
it's it's really terrible that we just can't put this
aside and say that this girl is a is a
gifted athlete. She just happens to be a white woman,
you know, a straight girl playing you know, Okay, if
it's and it bothers me because you complain about not
(35:26):
being accepted as a minority black woman. You know, you're you're,
you're you're actually you are. It's it's racial to bringing
this against her like this. It is racism.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It is.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, Jordan, quickly here, you got like twenty seconds for us.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Jordan.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, if the one thing I think, well, all these
women don't like her that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
She's hot compared to these other w NBA players.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Let's just be honest, she's really hot.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Compared to the average WNBA player. Thank you, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
This is like you and me be a good looking
for radio show host buck like the standard. I would
just say the average WNBA player is not a is
not a.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
There was a radio host swimsuit calendar of dudes, of
dudes we might eke onto, like the extra month or something,
you know what I mean. Radio hosts are not known
for the tabs.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I told Buck, when you go into a press box,
there's a lot of ugly dudes in there being good
looking for a sports rider.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Ain't that high of a standard.
Power three play and Buck kicks off. Now appreciate you
being with us. Much to discuss. As we know, the
conviction of Donald Trump came down last week and the
Trump campaign is charging forward. This is certainly not going
to stop Trump, and there's plenty of reason to believe
that it might energize his base. It might energize even
(00:22):
more than that with the American people seeing the Lawfare
campaign continuing to unfold in a way that is just
a disgrace to our system of justice in this country.
Clear election interference, obvious rigging of the upcoming political contest
(00:45):
this fall. So with all that going on, Trump is
not backing down an inch. He is, for example, pointing
out that Biden is, in case you were wondering, the
worst president, this is cut seven, the worst president in
the history of the country.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Play it now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The impeachment drive proved that there were no crimes, much
less high crimes and misdemeanors committed by the president. This
investigation of doctor Fauci shows that he is an honorable
public servant, committed to public health, and he is not
a comic book super villain. He did not fund research
to create the COVID nineteen pandemic. He did not lie
(01:22):
to Congress about gain of function research in Wuhan, and
he did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Cover his tracks.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
These are outrageous concoctions, fabrications, and distortions.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Wichi is not a good dude.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But that also was not Biden being called out as
being the worst president ever.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, so I'm going to assume that we're having a
little disconnect on the clip situation here for a second.
I'm just going to speak on the radio and we'll
get this squared away in a little bit. In the meantime,
Trump is saying that he's going to dotations. He said,
quote the biggest ever. It's gonna be the biggest deportations
(02:06):
in history. Meanwhile, Joe Biden Clay, I don't know if
you called this. I know it's cut nine. Just cut nine.
Actually mean cut nine this time because cut seven was
something else. Let's try let's try cut nine.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Now, I'm gonna do the big deportation, the biggest ever.
Eisenhower did the biggest. This will be bigger. But it's
a very tough thing. What they've done to our country
is unthinkable, because you know, the radical left is going
to start saying, oh lovely, so you'll get rid of
ten really bad ones and one, you know, beautiful mother
who they think is s guilty of something and maybe
(02:39):
she is, maybe, and it'll become a story or a
family that's a good family and came in wrong, and
you know they're going to show it. Then it's going
to always be tough. It's not going to be easy,
and we have to use a lot of good judgment.
But the way you get rid of him is the
local police.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So he's saying there's gonna be massive deportations. Meanwhile, play
Biden is there telling everybody he's expected to issue a
quote long anticipated executive order tomorrow they believe to partially
shut down asylum processing along the US Mexico border. This
is reporting by CBS News, which I'm sure has plenty
(03:17):
of people in the Biden White House that are happy
to feed them news stories. So Biden taking action at
the border because he realizes I think this is one
of the greatest vulnerabilities that the Biden administration has not
talked about as much in the news cycle as it
had previously been. But still, if you look at the numbers,
Biden is going to have to contend with eight million
(03:41):
illegals in four years entering the United States on his watch,
and I know the number is higher than that, but
it's at least eight million officially is going to be
the final number.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I think also, this is their long range plan. They
really firmly leave that it's going to be virtually impossible
to ever get these people out of the country. I
think that's their plan. And I understand the argument from
Trump of We're going to begin the largest deportation in
(04:14):
American history, But do you know what's going to happen.
As soon as the deportation starts, AOC is going to
put on her white outfit and she's going to go
stand outside of some deportation camp and she's gonna cry,
and it's going to be the lead story on ABC, NBC, CBS,
everybody out there, certainly MSNBC and CNN. Republicans who are
(04:40):
really weak just cannot manage or stomach any criticism at all,
will go all week in the knees and this I'm
just predicting flag this. As soon as the public criticism starts,
they will have it here the deportations. They'll talk about
(05:02):
how moms and dads are being taken away from their kids.
All of this is going to make it virtually impossible
to say nothing buck of the fact that by the
time we start some of these deportations, people are going
to be in this country. They're going to be married,
They're gonna have had kids, which means their kids are
American citizens. I'm just predicting how all this is going
(05:24):
to go. Democrats create the problem, and then as soon
as the solution has tried to be put in place,
they're going to lose their minds over the solution and
their ultimate goal, Make no mistake about it, is all
these people are. They want to be citizens, and they
want them voting. That's what's going on. They're playing the
long game here, and even if you're a great president,
(05:45):
Trump only gets four years. They know that you're never
going to really have the consistency that you need to
solve the border problem. Once they let in eight ten
What do you even think is the over under number
legit of illegal immigrants that are in the United States
right now?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I would guess that it's eight million that have entered
through the phony asylum process that they do across the
US Mexican border, and then something like a half a
million got aways plus visa overstays, which is another way
that people become illegals in the country. They just come
and say, you know, I'm on a tourist visa and
they never go home.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh. And the you know they.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Often need is to join family members or whatever who
are here. So I would say eight point five. I
mean I would sorry ten million. I think the actual
number of additional illegals who have entered the United States
while Joe Biden has been president is ten million.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Okay, So think about that number, and I don't think
that's a crazy number at all. I think that's a
very reasonable number.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of the official is already six million, right, I mean,
the official I think is like six point five. Just
so everyone's clear, I'm just adding the final year of
Biden call it a million five and then adding god
aways and visa overstays.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Right. So I don't think ten million, is it might be? Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Actually, I think that's a very reasonable realistic number.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You want to know. I mean, this is crazy to
think about.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
If you look at populations, most states don't have ten
million people in them. In fact, Michigan, the state of
Michigan has ten million people in it right now. It
is the tenth biggest state in the country right now,
(07:32):
ten million people in Michigan. We effectively have brought to
bear the state of Michigan and just put it in
this country full of illegal immigrants. More people than live
in New Jersey, Virginia, Washington State, Arizona, Tennessee. If you've
ever visited any of these states, Massachusetts, if you've ever
(07:54):
driven through any of these states. My home state of
Tennessee has around seven million people. It's a big geographic state,
seven million people. There are three million more illegals than
exist right now in the entire state of Tennessee. Virginia
ain't a small state, eight point seven million total population.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Washington Airs.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean, this is crazy to think about how many
people they have brought in. Do you agree with me though,
that as soon as if Trump wins and Steven Miller
is going to be in charge of this and I
have one hundred percent believe that they will begin the
process of deportation. Democrats are going to lose their mind
over illegal immigrants being taken out of this country, and
(08:40):
a lot of Republicans are going to go weaken the
knees and they're going to stop it. I'm just telling
it might take six months. We're not going to get
four years of deportation, which is how long it would
take to actually kick people out. Now, the positive is
if you start to send some people out, you're at
least sending the message all throughout the world that our
(09:00):
borders aren't wide open. But Trump's only got four years.
Even if he wins in twenty twenty eight, they'll just
go back to the same game plan. They're playing a
multi generational game here, and any one or two year
finger in the damn situation is they're going to ridicule
the attempt to try to fix it. It also goes
(09:22):
to the lawlessness and the destruction of the rule of
law that Democrats have embraced for political purposes. The same
law that they claim could send Donald Trump to prison
for four years. When I say the same law, I
mean the same system of law, the same system of
law that now could send Hunter Biden to prison for
(09:44):
I don't know how many years federal prison for the
gun case is a law that says that if you're
not in the country legally, you are supposed to be
deported and what they've done is they've taken that to
be well, we have law enforcement priorities, and so we're
going to only deploy people if they're violent felons, and
even then we're not going to deport a lot of
(10:04):
them because we basically want to just nullify immigration law.
That has become the official Democrat I'm sorry, sent to
the official the day facto Democrat party position on immigration
is that immigration laws don't count, they aren't really the law.
The problem with that is the same laws that Congress
gives us about you know, Trump and all these prosecutions
(10:27):
that they're bringing against them and classified information, and the
same congress or same congressional authority is used for laws
about the border and the enforcement thereof. So if you
ignore one, you actually undermine all the rest of it too,
Or rather, if you ignore a whole area of law,
you do damage to the entire system. And that's what
they're doing on the illegal immigration issue. They are doing
(10:49):
it to the expense of the sovereignty of this nation,
of really our ability to perpetuate ourselves and consider ourselves
a true nation state going forward. They're erode the foundation
of what brings us all together as Americans, and you
know they're still gonna lock you up for not paying
your taxes. But you can just come here and do
whatever you want, not pay taxes and not be not
(11:10):
be legal in the first place, and that's fine. Why
because if you're a dependent and as we know, there's
a disproportionate amount of illegals, for example, who are going
to need state resources, government resources, say oh, they can't
get it. Please, I know the games. Okay, they come here,
they have a child, and then all of a sudden,
the child is getting federal resources because it's a US citizen.
Now you can't deport I mean, you go down the
list of all these things and you see, Clay. I
(11:34):
don't know how this gets solved. I worry that the
American people are waking up to this problem too late.
To your point about Donald Trump. Even if Trump keeps
his word and he's like, guys, I'm sorry, you're illegal,
you gotta go, and we're gonna do these deportations, it's
Republicans who are gonna sell them out.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I can't I can't lie. I know you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I can't lie to people, and that's not a lie,
but I can't mislead people by saying I think Republicans
as a party have the backbone for this. I am
not convinced that all that they do, and I don't
know if Donald Trump would have the votes for his
own party to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He might be as the executive, as a commander in chief,
in a role where he can do a lot without Congress,
but Republicans will not back him up on this, and
a lot of them will find a way to say.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, but you know, we're a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You know, there's all the stuff the poet the poem
on the foot of the Statue of Liberty. Show up
in another country and be like, I want you guys
to let me in pay for all my stuff, and
I want to complain about how you're not nice enough
to me. Try that in some other country as an
American and see how that goes for you. I was
even reading I bet a lot of people are going
on vacation to start the summer. The rates of hotels
(12:41):
have skyrocketed in New York City because so many of
the hotel rooms are now taken up by migrants.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I don't know that people have even realized this. A
lot of these hotels they're getting. I think that it's
one hundred and eighty five dollars a night for three
and four star hotels all over Manhattan, and as a result,
there are way fewer hotel rooms than there used to be.
Now they've also done away with Airbnb basically unless you're
staying for a month or longer in New York City.
(13:10):
But it's now starting to get challenging to get hotel
rooms because so many migrants are showing up and getting
four star and three star hotel rooms to live in
for free in New York City.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Take your calls on it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck, I
want to set the table for you because I think
this is I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I am stunned how big of a story this has become.
But all weekend long foxnews dot Com OutKick, millions of
people are clicking on the Caitlin Clark story WNBA basketball player.
She is getting mistreated horribly in the WNBA. I think
(16:37):
to a large extent it's because she's a white girl
who happens to be heterosexual. I'm gonna play a cut
for you and then we'll react to it a bit
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is stephen A. Smith today on ESPN.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
There are girls, young ladies in the WNBA who are
jealous of Caitlyn Clark. She is a white girl that
has come into the league. She has bursted onto the scene.
She hasn't proven herself yet.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
It's not even about them thinking they're better than her,
because they probably know it at this particular juncture because
they've been playing on a.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Level she just arrived to.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Where the resentment comes in is the hard work, the commitment,
the dedication, you know, the pounding of the payment that
being on the grind all of these years trying to
uplift this brand that is the WNBA and is women's
professional basketball, and all of their efforts were in vain
until this girl comes along and takes the league by storm.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
All Right, we're gonna we gotta dive into that analysis
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I think everyone knows that, but I say it just
(18:46):
so I can, you know, set the table everyone. I
know what I'm talking about too, Steven A. Smith, very
famous sports panalyst fellow. I was talking about the Caitlin
Clark issue. I saw Clay's posts on X over the
week and with video of a very clearly nasty just
not a foul really just a almost.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Like cheap shot, just a cheap shot.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, I mean, not not quite like Tanya Harding
level cheap shot, but you know, a cheap shot like
just meant to hurt somebody or you know, injure them
from another WNBA player. It has now been called a
flagrant foul. But people are saying, Okay, what's really going
on here? And I'm just gonna hand it over to
my man, Clay, who can tell me what is going
(19:31):
on in the WNBA from your extensive WNBA why.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I was just talking with our producer Ali off Air
about this, and I think Ali's sitting there in New York, Ali,
have you ever cared about any women's basketball story?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In your entire life. No, never really paid attention. Okay,
do you care about the Caitlin Clark story.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm intrigued by it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
This is so that is a perfect approximation. It's rare
that I see because I get to see the data.
What are people clicking on? What do people care about?
Most of the time, I am not surprised by what
people click on and what people care about.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's the business that I'm in.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Over the weekend, millions of people were clicking on this
Caitlin Clark story about the cheap shot that you just referenced.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It has cut across lines.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I mean, we got multiple people booked on Fox News
to talk about this from OutKick in a way that
rarely do sports stories connect. And so I'm curious for
our audience out there. Are you following this and paying
attention to it. My suspicion is the answer is yes,
because again, I see all of the Fox News data,
(20:48):
I see the OutKick data, and that overlaps with our
audience to a large extent. I think, what's going on here, buck,
Kaitlin Clark is white. I think that's a big part
of the story here in terms of her treatment. But
I also think it's that she's straight. There are not
(21:09):
a lot of straight women's basketball players, and so in
the WNBA, Caitlin Clark, as a straight white woman, is
just getting wrecked on the court and ridiculed and attacked
in a way that I can never remember any male
(21:30):
athlete being treated of any race. And of course, if
this were a minority in a majority white league and
this happened, it would be a huge story. Oh my goodness,
look at the latent racism that's going on here. I'm
fascinated by it. I'm curious what your analysis would be,
(21:50):
because I know you've been kind of following this somewhat too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Smith is now pointing out the race and not as
much the sexuality. But I do think that fat actors
in here, these WNBA women, even though Caitlin Clark is
bringing tens of millions of dollars to their league because
they've been playing for thirty years and nobody cares, she
somehow has cut through the noise and people care about her,
(22:14):
much like I would say Tiger Woods when he came
to golf, brought a whole new audience to golf, and
everybody benefited Suddenly, if you won the Masters, you made
a lot more money than you did before. But it
was seen as a super positive. By and large, Tiger
was welcomed into golf. Everybody was like, Okay, this is great.
We're gonna all make more money. People care about us more.
(22:35):
These girls are just trying to wreck Caitlin Clark. I
think if they could injure her and knock her out
for the season, they would be happy to do so well.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think it's also worth asking, what do you call it?
If someone chooses, or I should chooses? Isn't really the
right word?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What do you call it?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
If somebody despises a person because that person is white
and straight? Is that not me? I mean, is that
not it is? If that's not the word, what is
the word, right? I mean, what are we going to
call it? I guess you could say it's, uh, it's racism.
I don't like the term reverse racism because that plays
into some left wing narrative. It's just racism, right, If
(23:14):
you don't like somebody because of their skin color, that's racism.
It seems to me like it's the ultimate loser mentality
for a person who as their profession is doing something
that will benefit from the presence of greater attention, more
money coming into the league, and still chooses to effectively
(23:34):
spit on that person or that change in public attention.
You should want this. I mean, you know, I had
a friend who played. Years ago. I worked with a
guy he played professional lacrosse, and I asked him, in
all honesty, I was like, I didn't even know there
was such a thing as professional lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He goes yeah, He goes, yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I played in the season and I made like twenty
grand and had a full time job. It wasn't you know,
to say you're a pro lacrosse is not to say
like you're a pro MB You know, you're an NBA
player or something making ten million, thirty million, whatever a year.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
If somebody came along and was getting paid tens of
millions of dollars in endorsement money to be a professional
lacrosse player, you'd have to be an imbecile to think
that it's a good idea to destroy that person because
a rising tide will lift all boats and it's better
for the entire enterprise.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, That's where I think this just shows it's just
years of a loser mentality of we don't make any money,
nobody cares. There's a bitterness that seems to be behind
any decision to try to hurt a rising star who,
as usually have pointed out, it's going to make a
lot of money for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
In this industry, in this in this league, the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, and I would be curious to hear from other people.
But the way that they are paying attention eight hundred
and two A two two eight A two is we're
closing out the show today. The cultural impact of Caitlin Clark,
this is one that I was wrong on. I did
not think that eighteen million or whatever the number is
people were going to watch the Iowa women play against
(25:08):
LSU for the national championship.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's that number. Stunned me. Do you remember Jeremy Lynn
in the NBA? Yeah, I know, yeah, Lin Sanity, Yes, And.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And you know, there was this moment where people were like, wow,
this guy is all of a sudden, you know, and look,
he didn't have a big career and he wasn't a
great NBA player, but he's in the NBA and he
just completely caught fire for a while and was scoring
crazy amounts of points and had some had some really
big games. And I think that there was an understanding
because the NBA is a big business. It's like, oh,
(25:38):
a lot of people and particularly overseas, a lot of
people were really really excited about this about lind sanity,
and so it can only help exposure in the Asian
TV market, which is absolutely it's the biggest, you know
market in the world.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Why was so big and why show hey is so
big in Major League Baseball. The bigger the markets of
people that care about your sport, the more money everybody makes, right, right?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
What?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But this is what I mean in the NBA, because
it's a successful business. I think there's just an understanding
of like, oh, Lin Senne is great. If we have
you know, millions more people in China or Japan or
you know any of the above watching, that just ups
our contrary. You know, everyone makes more money on their contracts.
Everybody has more viewers. I mean, people want to have
as many viewers as possible for their games, right, professional pride,
(26:25):
everybody wins.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't remember, Yeah, I mean you could.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Have pointed out the guy, but you know, okay, so
he wasn't Michael Jordan, but nobody said he was right.
The point was he was bringing new interest and new
eyeballs to an entertainment endeavor, which is what sports is,
as you will know, but an entertainment endeavor. So in
this case, the fact that there is resentment, like I said,
it just comes from such a loser mentality.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I also think this is an important time, and I've
been making this argument for it feels like fifteen years.
You mentioned the reverse racism idea. I would love for
politician to just come out and say white people, Asian people,
black people, Hispanic people.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Every race has racist.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
The only way we define racism in America is white
too black.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And when you create a.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
World everybody else actually yeah, well but primarily white to black.
But yes, white people are the only racist in the
way we talk about racism in America. That has not
been my experience. And I think if you're around our age,
you have lived long enough to have met people who
are racist across every racial group, right, And and the
(27:43):
fact that we can't have a conversation about that, to me,
this is evidence of what's going on with Clark.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
She's actually the minority here. She's the white girl in
a predominantly black league. She is the straight girl in
a predominantly lesbian league. He is the minority. The white
heterosexual girl is the minority, and the majority is ganging
up against her. And I think that story it blows
(28:13):
people's minds because they've we've been so conditioned for so
long to follow what I would say, Buck is the
TA Kill a Mockingbird storyline, great novel, go read it,
Harper Lee. But the idea is white woman is the liar,
black man is the victim. We've been so conditioned to
(28:33):
see that white racism against black which is a redress
for generations of racism. But if you are around our age,
if you grew up in the eighties, the nineties, the
early two thousands, I legitimately believe, if you're around forty
years old, you didn't grow up in a segregated South.
(28:56):
You didn't grow up in a Jim Crow America. Most
people born from nineteen eighty ish on have grown up
in a fairly egalitarian, equality drenched society. And what happened
post Obama was people said, oh, well, everything is not
a perfect reflection of the racial population in America. So
(29:19):
that must be because of racism. I just fundamentally reject that,
and so we moved from equality to equity. And I
think this Caitlin Clark connection is actually part of a
larger conversation that we should be having where she's getting
legitimately bullied and beaten up because of her race and
(29:40):
her gender.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I mean, you can take race out of this and
sexual orientation out of this entirely. Because I watch I
have always played and watched tennis since I was very young,
and so I'm very familiar with tennis. There was a
time when Annakornicova was the highest paid female tennis player
in the world and I believe the highest paid female
athlete in the world. And I think around that time
(30:04):
she was ranked number like seventy for women's tennis.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I think she got up to like the top fifteen
in her career, best possible.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That was the highest ever class she was usually like
barely in the top Sea's.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Gorgeous for people who don't remember Anna Kornakova, which looks
like she looks like a swimsuit model, like you know
that was she's a model, yes, you.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Know, yeah, and and you know she was making tens
of millions of dollars a year in endorsements. Now, I
understand that people could say, well, that's not fair. The
number one female tennis player in the world should be
making the most money. However, if you were to look
as a business at the increased attention, viewership, and sponsor
dollars into women's tennis, women's tennis now is really one.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Of the I think.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I don't know if there is another sport quite like this,
you'd have to tell me. But in the biggest you know,
the US Open, for example, parody in the purse between
men's and women's. Yeah, you know, you could say, I.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Think that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I mean now they have more so in soccer now
because of the way they thought about it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
But that's just socialism though, Like people really do watch
women's tennis in huge number, Like the women's final at
the US Open is not something It's not like doubles,
which I feel sad, but like no one really watches doubles.
Serena was way more popular than any men's American tennis player.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes, I mean, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Hundreds of millions of dollars, So I'm just saying there
are times when your sport, when your enterprise gets attention
and dollars that will benefit everybody. But a short sighted
view and a view based and resentment can make that
more difficult. And I think that's what you're seeing in
the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think that's right. We'll take some of your calls.
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Speaker 4 (33:05):
Welcome back in, Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Several of
you went away in. We'll dive into some of those
in a minute. I will mention Caitlin Clark's boyfriend liked
tweets saying that the girls basketball team needed an enforcer
to just start wrecking some of the girls who were
(33:26):
hitting and treating their treating his fiance his girlfriend unfairly.
And the funny thing to me to think about here
is if a dude pretending to be a girl decided
he wanted to be the enforcer. I mean, you just
put Dennis Rodman in a long wig, and I feel
(33:46):
like that dude could go out even at fifty five
or sixty whatever he is, and wreck some girls to
protect Caitlin Clark also be heroic. According to liberals Patty
in New Jersey, what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (33:59):
It really bought about the fact that like women just
can't stick together with being women, Like we have to
like further seat to like divide this on race and whatever.
I mean, the girl is talented, no denying, she's a white,
straight woman. Can't we just like support her and just
you know, like can't just women unify like the whole,
(34:20):
like like making the division with race. It just it
annoys me.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And why do we think it's actually a good question, Patty?
Why do you think that doesn't happen in men's sports?
I can't think of I know, in hockey, like the
goal scorers get wrecked up and they're enforcers, but that's
kind of a part of the game. And why do
you think I can't think of a rookie who's come
into a male sport and been treated like this.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Why do you think it is?
Speaker 10 (34:44):
Because it just doesn't happen. And you guys made a
good point before. It doesn't even happen in other women's sports,
like you know, and again that like you know, the
tide rising all boats like can't we just have this
here like it's just it's very frustrating. I think race
tends to get inserted in everything lately to divide everything,
(35:04):
and even with like the entertainment things like sports. You know,
it's it's really terrible that we just can't put this
aside and say that this girl is a is a
gifted athlete. She just happens to be a white woman,
you know, a straight girl playing you know, Okay, if
it's and it bothers me because you complain about not
(35:26):
being accepted as a minority black woman. You know, you're you're,
you're you're actually you are. It's it's racial to bringing
this against her like this. It is racism.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It is.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, Jordan, quickly here, you got like twenty seconds for us.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Jordan.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, if the one thing I think, well, all these
women don't like her that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
She's hot compared to these other w NBA players.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Let's just be honest, she's really hot.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Compared to the average WNBA player. Thank you, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
This is like you and me be a good looking
for radio show host buck like the standard. I would
just say the average WNBA player is not a is
not a.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
There was a radio host swimsuit calendar of dudes, of
dudes we might eke onto, like the extra month or something,
you know what I mean. Radio hosts are not known
for the tabs.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I told Buck, when you go into a press box,
there's a lot of ugly dudes in there being good
looking for a sports rider.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Ain't that high of a standard.
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