Jacqueline Toboroff - NYC Gets Trumped Up

Jacqueline Toboroff, Manhattan native, divorced mom of two, columnist and writer who ran for City Council as a Republican in 2021, connects how policy shapes reality.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,
Jacqueline Toberoff is with us right now. She is politically activated.
She's an author. She ran for New York City Council.
He's got a book coming out on being a supermom.
She also writes for Human Events and like me, she's
a fellow New yorkerl though I'm a former fellow New Yorker, Jackie.

(00:23):
Great to have in the show first time. Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here. So you were actually
down there earlier this week at the Trump indictment arraignment situation.
Just just tell everybody, you know, what's that like? What
was the vibe, what was the feel? The vibe was amazing.

(00:43):
So Gavin Wax and the New York Young Republicans put
it together. This was their second one. The first was
in March on the twenty first, I think when news
first broke today. It was the second one. They had
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green as one of the speakers, and
it was they invited members to their club. So it

(01:06):
was basically all locals. No one was bust in to riot,
to arson, to loot, to assault. It was very orderly,
with a couple of exceptions. It turns out, after going
on to Twitter that New York City council person Shays
Say was handing out whistles so that agitators could basically

(01:31):
blow out ear drums of people they're protesting Alvin Bragg.
But it was very civil, orderly. Everyone was cheering for
Marjorie Taylor Green. And again this is in New York City,
this is in Manhattan, and there was genuine support. What
do you think it means now that it's official, I

(01:53):
mean Trump is indicted, the indictment is out. This is
really happening. To start first with, I mean, as in
New York worker, it must be very weird. I mean,
this is how I feel as a you know, thirty
some odd year New Yorker feels weird that this native
son of New York, of Queens no less, became president
and now he's being pulled back to his hometown to

(02:17):
face the most absurd charges I've really ever seen in
any criminal proceeding. Yeah, I think the people that were
at this protest today, there were plenty of them that
were in support of Trump, and then there were just
plenty of them that didn't see how indicting him and
arresting him would make their lives any better. You know,
I'm a mom of two. I don't know how this

(02:38):
improves education. I don't know how this improves crime. I
don't know how this improves the illegal crisis, the drug crisis,
the homeless encountments. So there were plenty of people there
that might not have necessarily been Trump supporters, but they
were certainly not in support of what Alvin Bragg is doing.

(02:59):
Where do you think goes? I mean, I'm just wondering.
You know, there's there's now the possibility the judge will
throw the whole thing out. I'm sure there'll be a
bunch of motions. I would bet that it will not
be thrown out. My assumption is that they're going to
let this play out and go to a jury. The
part of this that I have not gotten a single
good explanation for yet is what do they want? Meaning?

(03:22):
If they were to get you know, usually you have
a plead. This is a it's a misdemeanor campaign finance charge,
right that they've elevated to a felony based upon a
nonindicted federal crime that has nothing to do with the local, local, state,
statute at issue about you know, falsifying records or whatever.
Are they gonna try to send him a jail because

(03:42):
I mean, what, really is this going to turn into
one hundred thousand dollars fine for Trump? Is like buying
a soda for the rest of us, Like, what do
they think this is going to do? We know the
politics of it, but legally, it just feels like the
whole thing is just crazy. I mean, look, I think
it's so clear that these people just hate this country.
And I saw that Leezeldon put out a tweet and

(04:05):
he said that they are hurting America. That's the point
that they're hurting America. They don't like America. This is
this isn't a big deal to them. I'm unsure whether
they took his photo for a monk shop, but then
there was news that they weren't going to They want
him disappeared. It feels like they want him in Siberia.

(04:27):
They don't want even though this is happening in Manhattan
and there naturally has so much attention on it, It's
almost like they just want to They just want to
disappear him. It's it's really just perverted and sick, and
I mean thirty four counts. What are these thirty four counts?
I mean you've been You're from New York City. You

(04:48):
know what's going on here. I mean, rapists and murderers
are roaming free. I want to ask you next about
how the city, how the city's doing, or we're going
to get into how Eric Adams is doing the latest
just feel of walking around on the streets there and
you know how how we're going to get to to
all that. But but just on on this Trump issue.
I mean, do you get the sense right now? I

(05:10):
mean you were there, I know, with a bunch of
young Republicans club members in New York City? Is it
just Trump for you? Trump for you already? Like it's
you're don't even want to see the primary play out?
Have you already decided in your mind? Or do you
want to see I was voting for I mean I
voted for Trump before. I'm one hundred percent voting for
Trump again. I unlike some of the other people, I

(05:30):
have no issue with descantists. I just don't know we
have Trump. Things were great under Trump. I just don't
understand why we would go towards descantists. So I'm already
committed to who I'm voting for. UM. I think really
surprisingly that the the Democrats are counting on these suburban

(05:51):
moms to reject Donald Trump. I think what's going to
happen is the urban moms are going to reject the Democrats.
I I see such a repulsion here from moms again
about this, the left's attack on women, the crime school.
I just I really think we're going to be surprised

(06:11):
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I left New York. Everyone listening to this knows that,
and I live in Florida. There are a lot of
reasons why people could go back to the many, many

(07:37):
shows I've done talking about this. But I still love
New York and I'm still rooting for New York and
I haven't ruled out that one day I would at
least spend part of if not, you know, permanently, my
my life back up there. How is it going under
Mayor Eric Adams? Like, honestly, not just I know under
de Blasio, the answer was, he's awful top to bottom.

(07:58):
He does nothing right, He's an imbecile. Okay, that was
to Blasio. What's the honest assessment of Mayor Eric Adams
in New York City right now? Like, walk me the
honest assessment. The honest assessment is Eric Adams is a
hundred times worse than to Blasio. He was pitched as
a moderate. This guy, let me tell you something. From

(08:18):
the very beginning, he ran his campaign on race and
from the basement, no one pushed back on anything. He
barely made it through his primary and he has been
an unmitigated disaster. So I have some numbers here. Within
the past two years, crime across the seven majors is
up forty five point forty percent. Okay, rape, rape is

(08:42):
up six point five percent, and Graham larceny auto is
up almost one hundred percent, ninety three point five percent.
It's a disaster. Arrests are down fifty two percent of
all of the arrest have been downgraded. All of the
crimes are downgraded. We are emptying prisons. We have, as

(09:07):
I said before, a homeless crisis. We have illegal weed
shops sprouting up on every other block. It's like Starbucks,
They're ubiquitous. What else I mean? We have outmigration, we
have a wrecking ball to the educational complex. It's a disaster.

(09:27):
It's really a disaster. I mean the highlight was the
rally this morning. It was a disaster. So I don't
understand this part of the equation. Right, you're still in
New York. It's eighty twenty Democrat to Republican in New
York City, and in that's across the whole city. In Manhattan,
I think it's more like ninety ten. Right. It's Manhattan

(09:48):
has become an enclave of comming nonsense. Sadly, it's where
I was born and raised. You two, and I'm wondering,
what do the people who voted what do the Democrat
who voted for Adams say to you or like, what
is the conversation like with him? Do they think he's
doing a good job. Well, firstly, voter turnout, as you know,

(10:10):
was abysmal. It was very low. So this is what
you get with very low voter turnout. Again, he was
pitched by the media as a moderate, so people maybe
shrugged it off and thought, look, this guy worked with
the NYPD. Finally we're going to have someone who's tough
on crime. Don't forget we had some wackos running against him.

(10:32):
I mean we had Maya Wiley, we had someone who
was head of the sanitation. This is on the heels
of garbage piles up to the sky. It was a disaster.
So we have Adams. And I think that people are
in two camps. There are the people that are deluded

(10:53):
and they think everything is great and they live in
their doorman buildings on the Upper West Side. And then
there are the people that are really galvanizing. And again
I hate to go back to this, but it really is.
It's the moms. You know, things get real in the
field once you have kids, and really there's a common phenomenator.
Everyone wants a good school, and everyone wants to feel safe,

(11:15):
and we have neither of those two things. Under Adams,
everything is worse. The priority is always criminals over constituents.
What is he focused on. I mean, it's just amazing
to me because you know New York it's and then
this is true because you know, I do a radio
show and we're on basically five hundred stations or on
base really all over the country. Right. But we always

(11:38):
say that New York was the place that the whole
country looked to for the Giuliani crime miracle turnaround situation
that then was replicated in terms of the policing and
the strategy in a lot of other places across the country. Right. So,
because it worked in America's biggest city in the nineties,
going from over two thousand murders in nineteen ninety two

(12:01):
three hundred murders by the early two thousands something like that,
maybe maybe you know, the low four hundreds. Because of that,
people will understand that New York is this symbol, right
for what could be possible. And Adams was the one
thing that I mean, I was still living in the
city at the time. I remember the one thing that
everybody was saying other than you know, COVID and triple

(12:21):
mask and be lunatics. Was this guy needs to clean
up the city in terms of crime, also in terms
of like sanitational the streets by the way, the city
was getting dirtier. It really was that. You know, they'd
cut the sanitation budget, as you know. And it seems
to me like all he has to do is look
at what has worked in the past and have a
maniacal focus as mayor on that, on bringing down these numbers,

(12:44):
and he'd be not just a good mayor, a national
hero and a likely Democrat presidential contender in the future.
It's so obvious. What is he unwilling to do it?
Or is he not capable of doing it because of
the realities of the Democrat Party around him today or whatever.
I don't think that's it. I really don't think the

(13:06):
Democrat Party believes at this point that cleaning up the city,
which includes literally cleaning it up as well as making
it safer, is a value that they share with the
rest of us. I just I think that that's the
real disconnect. I don't think he would be accepted in

(13:30):
those circles if he cleaned up the city at all.
I think he probably lose his value to the Democrat Party.
I mean, right here in city Council, we just had
a group I forgot how many they are a number,
but they're part of now the Progressive Caucus. They were
literally kicking out Democrats from city Council that did not

(13:53):
agree to completely abolish the NYPD. So, I mean, to
your point, I don't know if cleaning up the city
would secure him any higher office within the Democrat Party
at all. Well, to do it, you'd have to lock
more people up. You'd have to reincarceer rate instead of

(14:15):
d incarcer rate, which has been the mantra of so
many Democrat controlled cities for a long time now. And
I think that the activist and donor class of the Democrats,
whether in New York or in any major left wing
enclave across the country, they're just unwilling for that to
happen right now. Maybe at some level it's there's a stubbornness.

(14:37):
They don't want to admit that they were wrong through
the policy change, right. But also, I mean to your
point about the people who live on the Upper West
Side in the Doorman buildings, And I know plenty of them,
and so do you. I think that they would rather
people in poorer neighborhoods live in less safety, greater jeopardy

(14:57):
of suffering from crime, including violent time, as long as
they themselves, meaning the rich people get to feel good
about themselves and are getting the virtue signaling points in
their peer group that that matters more to them. And
that's the calculation they make one hundred percent. I mean,
that's what it is. I mean, look at cnfol just

(15:19):
came out eighty percent of New York City residents say
crime is a serious issue. Eighty percent. So going back,
New York City is eight to one Democrat to Republican
and eighty percent or saying crime is a serious issue. Yeah,
it seems like this should be the most obvious, the
most obvious pathway forward laid out for a may or
for administration you could ever find. But also, you know

(15:42):
recently in the city, what was it just over the
weekend there was that and I know that garage. I've
actually spent a lot of time in that area, you know,
near in between Hudson Yards and actually where my old
studio used to be, and so I've just I've been
around there a lot. I know, I haven't you know,
not like super familiar with the garage, but I know
it by sight. And that guy who confronted somebody who

(16:03):
was coming clearly a career criminal with I think over
twenty arrests already twenty arrests. I mean, you think by
arrest number five you might start to question some of
your life choices. But twenty arrests and the guy pulls
out a gun shoots him. It's amazing. The guy Musa
I believe was his name, the employee, he turned the
gun on the individual shot him after being shot, So

(16:26):
he shot the criminal. It's remarkable he's not dead. And
he spent the weekend chained to his bed at Bellevue
under attempted murder charges because Alvin Bragg is a pro
criminal psychopath. I don't know how else to put it,
Like what I know, he dropped the charges, and we're
also to think that's fine. What kind of maniac charges
the I mean, the fact pattern was very clear. The

(16:47):
employee of the place, he didn't bring the gun in there,
he wasn't trying to steal anything like It's just, well,
how do you live with that? How do you deal
with that? Jokes on Musa, he thought that you know,
defending himself was some sort of right. It's not here
in New York City. It really again, it's it's just
pro criminal. Every single policy favors that of a criminal

(17:12):
over law abiding residents. It's it's really it's terrifying. Quite frankly,
it's really terrifying. You don't you go to see It's
interesting me because you're actually a lot of people talk
about like, oh, we're gonna do you run for city
council in New York. You're involved in politics in New York.
So just to be clear to everybody, you're not you know,
you're not a mom who's saying maybe somebody else is
gonna pick up the tours and try to do something.

(17:33):
You're you're actually trying to charge up that hill in
this nest of very wealthy commies in New York City.
Like you're actually trying to charge up that hill. Um, well,
I want to come back to that actually and ask
you a little bit about the internal political dynamics and
running for city council. And I'll tell you maybe if
I remember to do. There's a funny story about the
Austin City Council from when I visited there that you

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(19:01):
so you you tried to run Jackie in New York
City for the council there, and how how is that?
By the way, are you shocked when you because you
must be coming across the the Democrat positions and everything
because city council, I feel like they have to fake
The Democrats have to fake people out at the state level,

(19:22):
not so much in New York and California, but you
know they have to. They have to sound not completely
insane um, just because of the national level profile those
kinds of roles as well. But city council, I mean,
you know, you go to a Democrat enclave. I remember
the college. I went to the town. The town council
declared that it was a nuclear weapon free zone in

(19:42):
the town, like they actually passed the resolution. Like, you know,
these people can be totally wacko. How wacko is the
New York City Council. The New York City Council is
freaking wacko. I mean it's ground zero of wacko. Um.
The good news for me when I was running is
I knew nothing. I was never politically active before. I

(20:04):
had no basis. It's not like I tried this a
couple times and had any sort of clue. I went
in guns blazing figuratively, and I truly it was one
of the best experiences of my life. I would encourage
anyone who is sick of the policies and what's outside

(20:25):
their front door, actually inside their front door, to run.
It's beyond me why people look for others to lead them.
And you know, even going back again to this rally,
all the people that were criticizing Gavin Watts, at least
he did something. I mean, people need to stop waiting
to be told what to do. You really need to
be told by someone to take off a mask after

(20:47):
three years, you know, you know, people need to exhibit
some sort of personal agency in their lives. Are you
coming across Democrat moms who are red pilled at this point?
I mean, are you coming across Democrat moms who realize
that they are casting votes and have been casting votes

(21:09):
for their own kids, especially if their boys they're teenagers,
to be more likely to get, you know, beaten with
a bottle on their way home. By some lunatic. More
likely that they themselves as women maybe assaulted on the
Street's more likely that there'll be some maniac relieving himself
on their front door wherever they live in Manhattan, Like
this is what goes on in New York. I mean,

(21:30):
I'm not you know, everyone can just look at the
headlines and look at the reality. There are there Democrat
moms who are being red pilled. They're freaking attacking me.
They stopped me on the street. Anyone that lives in
my district that recognizes me from when I ran, or
that follows me on Instagram, they attack me. I mean,
I look, I'm a Republican. I've always been a Republican.
In my house. It was when we were growing up,

(21:51):
who is more Republican? We never had those awkward family
dinners or anything like that, so I never thought it
was weird to be a republic Again. Quite frankly, that
being said, I know my audience, and Democrats seem to
think that everyone is their audience. They always assume I'm
one of them, you know, and I'm not one of them.
But in any event, anytime I'm walking home from school

(22:14):
or I'm going to pick up drop off and I
run into someone. The first thing they say is, I
can't believe I voted for this person. I don't even
care which Republican is running, I'm voting for him or her.
They are completely red pilled. I think there was the
death knell of CRT critical race theory that really did
it for them. Plenty of these parents were believe it

(22:35):
or not, okay masking, they were even okay vaxing. It
was really the CRT in schools. They just they've had it.
They've had it, and of course the crime. How can
you fix the schools? The public school system? I mean
to what we talked about before. In New York City.
You have all these people and I know them and
you know them. We grew up around them who will

(22:57):
defend the public school system like their life depends on it.
And then you'll be like, where do your kids go
to school? They're like, well, I can send him to
a sixty thousand dollars a year private school. Obviously. Yeah. Wait,
why you say the public school system is great and
you love teachers unions, but your kids? You know, one
of the great moments of hypocrisy if you remember back

(23:18):
to the back to the early in the Obama administration.
Was when then President Obama was on board with cutting
funding for DC charter schools. If you remember this, so
all these kids, including a lot of minority kids, who
were doing phenomenally well in publicly funded schools, just with
a different approach and not as beholden to the teachers unions, etc.

(23:42):
He was gonna cut funding to them where you know,
he was favorable too, I should say, cutting funding to them.
And this was in the District of Columbia, you know,
so it's a federal federal protectorate and his kids were
going to Sidwell Friends or whatever, which at the time
was forty five thousand dollars a year. And everybody looked
at this, They're like, yep, this is this is Democrats.
This is what they do. It's absolutely true in New
York City. So how do you fix the public school system.

(24:04):
I don't think you do fix the public school system
unless you break up the teachers unions. They are completely
political animals. They donate ninety nine point nine percent of
the time to Democrats, Democrat candidates, or Democrat causes. They
are they're a pack. I mean, they are a political
entity and they need to be completely broken up. That's

(24:26):
the only way you fix public school education. Like, even
on the at the city council level, you know, how
how much of an influence? Well, actually a better question
would be even for the mayor's race. For example, could
you be elected mayor of New York City if the
teachers unions mobilize against you? I mean, realistically, is it possible?

(24:49):
I think it is possible. Um. So, you know, there
are fifty one members of City Council creating this body,
and they basically they have a lot of influence over
the mayor. The mayor like for example, Mayor Giuliani, he
knew how to rule the city council. Mayor Adams does not.
And within the purview of city Council is weighing in

(25:13):
on all local agencies such as the NYPD and the
Department of Education. So City Council has a big say
at education and Mayor Adams is ultimately the one presiding
over it. Again, this educational failure is his. He also
installed one of the Banks brothers, what is his name,
David Banks, one of his longtime friends. It's a really

(25:37):
weird It's kind of like Tammany Hall. You have Philip Banks,
who is the deputy mayor. It was like this newly
created post for him. And then you have Philip. Then
you have Philip Banks's brother, David Banks, who is now
head he's the Chancellor of Education. And all three two
Banks brothers and Eric Adams go way back. It's a

(26:00):
very strange relationship. Can I be saying this anyway? It's
a strange relationship, and one of them is presiding over
the educational situation that we have and it's a disaster.
So New York City taxpayers spend the most out of
any person in the nation, twenty eight thousand dollars per

(26:22):
public school student annually. And the prize is being in
the bottom half of the nation for reading and writing.
That's what we get. Twenty eight thousand dollars. That's before
you've taken any into consideration anything else special meets children,
it's much more. But yeah, it's amazing because you think

(26:44):
about what, let's call it thirty grand just to make
it a round number. If people could pick where they
wanted to put their dollars of thirty thousand dollars a
year for purely educational purposes for their kids, what that
would do to the system. And you know, I've seen.
I don't know, do you know Mike Ernovich really really smart, interesting,
interesting guy, you know Mike. I mean he's fiery right,

(27:05):
like he'll say whatever's on his mind, but he has
some very interesting thoughts, you know. He tweeted out recently.
Look at what we've done on meaning the country has
done on constitutional and concealed carry issues, effectively expanding dramatically
the ability of law. And there was a time not
long ago, twenty years ago, when that seemed crazy, like,
oh my gosh, what do you mean, We're just lucky

(27:25):
they're not taking all of our guns, right, But the
work is done at the local level. And I think
that's what's so interesting. That's why one of the reason
I want to talk to you, because you look at
things like school choice. School choice that works locally in
a city in particular, or even in one state, provides
a model for other places around the country. And this
is what Rohnda Santis down in Florida is obviously trying

(27:47):
to do with the schools, well with everything, which has
provide a model of governance that other Republican states can follow.
I know you can't do that, generally speaking in New
York because of the political makeup. But it does feel
like any room to experiment with the New York school
system that just shows what works and shows how much
the current system doesn't work could have effect. Right other

(28:08):
places look at and say, see, which is why they
hate Obviously, it's why they hate charter schools. And Harlem
Success Academy comes under attack from the left, which is insane.
I'll tell you the truth, though, there's a big issue
that no one wants to discuss regarding school choice, specifically
here in New York City, and that is that private
schools have lost their independence. You have big government, you

(28:31):
now have big education. The truth of the matter is
many of these private schools, if you go onto their website,
they have opted into accreditation, and what that means is
that they are beholden to public school rules. So when
we talk about school choice, we really need to understand
that this shouldn't be a Republican talking point. There actually

(28:54):
has to be a choice, and quite frankly, here in
New York City there is no choice. Moms, here are
the choices for you. You can go to public school,
or you can spend fifty to sixty thousand on a
private school and have it at like a public school. Well,
one thing that I do know is that even my own,
my own grammar school, which I won't name, but people
could figure it out pretty easily. I talked to people

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recently about it because I got a tour of it,
and they've spent I walked past the school. This is
actually kind of funny. I walked past the school during COVID,
just randomly. I was up on the upper eas side
visiting visiting a friend, and my science teacher from when
I was a kid just happened. She still teaches there,
So we're going back like thirty years or something. Now

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still teaches there, and she which is crazier I think about.
She says like, oh, you've got to see this game
in this whole tour, and it's amazing what they've done.
I mean, they have spent tens of millions of dollars.
I mean, I remember we played basketball in the lunch
room where we also had our school play. I'm not kidding.
We had one room that was for our gymnasium. They'd

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roll tables out for our lunch. And now they've got
like an amphitheater. It looks like something out of Harvard.
I mean, it's just crazy. And I was like, wow,
this would be amazing. And I was like, wow, you know,
I didn't you know, the bank roll would have to
be pretty big, toy'd be able to send my son
here one day. But I thought about it, and I
talked to somebody who has a kid there. She's like,
she's like, it's communists now, woke d Ei transagenda. I'm like, transagenda,

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communist stuff. It's sixty K a year yep, for grammar school.
This is really this is the crux of it. When
people discuss school choice, there has to be a choice,
and right now there unfortunately, there really isn't a choice. Also,
a lot of the schools are the private schools are
looking to unionize. That will be it, that will be
the death knell to the private school. I hadn't even

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I hadn't even heard that. Really, that's yeah, little Oh
I shouldn't. I'm not going to name them, but they're
quite a few, you know. I just I have to ask.
I mean, this is I was gonna say, can we
close on a hopeful note here, Jackie. I don't know
that's really possible today given what's going on with the country,
But what keeps you there? You know? I mean because

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because I used I used to talk. I was a
I'm gonna be here when the last skyscraper crumbles, and
and the and the you know, the hammer and sickle
is flying over Central Park like I'm gonna be here,
damn it, I'm not. And then eventually during COVID, I
was just like you, the people, not the administration. I
was like the people that live here and vote here
in Manhattan. Not's that n Island, not you know, Nassau

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County in Manhattan are too crazy. I can't do this anymore.
I'm out ever read it one day? Since? Are you
thinking about it? Are you there? Are you actually in
it to win it till the end? I'm not. I'm
not seating New York City. Wow, look at that. It's no.
I'm not not going to abandon it back. I really do.
I think we can win it back, and why should

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we give it to them? I love it so much.
Like that's the thing. I love New York so much,
and I just love it. You know. It makes me
so sad that that they've done this to that city
and the people who say, oh, it's really not that bad.
All this stuff that really is actually, especially when you
understand when you've lived in another place and you see

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what your tax rate is Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada, you
know a bunch of them, and then you realize that
not only are you going through this stuff in New
York City and paying incredibly high cost of living, the
highest cost of living really in the country, you are
paying the city government for the privilege of being there
and the state government for them to basically spit in

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your face and act like maniacs and you know, suck
at everything. I don't know what else to say, like
it's too much, but you're you're not You're not getting
You are a honey badger in New York City. You
just don't give a what. You are not going to
abandon it. And I respect that so much. Jackie. Where
can people go to follow you on social and look
at what you're up to on with the columns, etc. Yeah, firstly,

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thank you so much. I really had fun. You can
go to Instagram at jack Lane for en ye that's
j A c q U E l I n E
f O R N y C. Same thing for my website.
On Twitter, I'm at j A c q U E
T N Y. I wrote it down. What did I
write down? I think it's NY something like that on

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Twitter and you can follow me on Human Events, the
Manhattan Dot Press and right and when your book comes out,
come and come and talk about the book on the show.
So we're better for you on that one. That's great.
Save New York City. Let me know how that goes,
all right, Jackie, Thank you so much. Great to have
you