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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, guys, Welcome back to another episode of Normally the
show with normalist takes, but when the news gets weird.
I am Mary Catherine Ham.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And I am Carold Markowitz, and it is a very
weird week here at normally End around the.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Country, it is. Indeed, it is, as you are listening,
Election day the day. Although we have like kind of
election season now because a lot of people early vote,
Election day itself is a day when there's not as
much to talk about, somewhat ironically, because people are doing
the thing we've been waiting for them to do, right.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But every single friend of mine is blowing up my
phone like, so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
What do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yep, So wow, we don't have actual info for this day.
We can talk about the projected info and what we
think about it. There was a very sort of in
the political world, somewhat earth shattering poll that came out.
Was it Saturday Night over the weekend? Yeah, over the
weekend by Anne Selzer, who is a polster in Iowa
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who is considered very reliable, sort of a gold standard
of polster reliable, particularly in Iowa. So her work is
important to people who study these things, and she came
out with a pole with Harris up three.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
In Iowa, which Trump is supposed to win.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, this is important because Trump generally during his career
has basically turned Iowa red. He was the one who
did it. Obama turned it blue. Trump took it back
red by pretty large margins. So if this is real,
it signals real trouble for him in other places in
the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Right, it could be a bell weather for other states
and it could be very bad for him or today.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
The broader picture. By the way, in the five thirty
eight average, which is another one of these nerdy things
that everyone looks at, Trump now leads forty nine percent
to forty six point five percent, which may not sound
like much, as Jim Garretty puts it, but by the
standards of swing states during this election, is a landslide
over on Real Clear Politics, which is another aggregate of polls,
Trump has led eighteen of the last twenty three poles
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in Arizona, and in the RCP average, Trump leads forty
eight point nine to forty six point three, So it's
more stable slash more leaning Trump in those areas. But
a lot of people are just saying this is very tight.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, we just it's so funny because I see so
many people on x Twitter saying it's going to be
a landslide for their candidate, and it's not the same candidate.
You see a lot of Harris people and a lot
of Trump people saying I envision a landslide and it
could happen. That's the other weird thing about these The
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poles are so tight, so tight. But if all the
states break one way, we do have a landslide, and
suddenly it's like not that tight. But going into today
it is an extremely close race. I don't know who
the undecideds are at this point. Apparently they do still
exist in some tiny numbers. I find that very hard
to believe. But they're getting these people to the polls
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and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Do you think we're gonna have an answer tonight?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean or early morning tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So I joke that this is more of a prayer
than a data based guest. But I am hoping there's
a Wednesday by Wednesday call. Would love that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I believe that we went to Saturday landslide, right, it
would probably mean some definitive things have happened well.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And this is the theory, by the way, that I've
heard for why Trump is spending so much time in
North Carolina, because people are saying, well, if he feels
good about North Carolina, Whisey there so much because he's
jumping North Carolina, Georgia, Virginia a little bit, and Pennsylvania
a lot. So some people's theories that they're spending all
that time there because they want a lot. Those three
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down during the Eastern time zone, right, so the returns
come back across the country at different times. If he
is looking like he's doing well in those three states
early in the night, yeah, we have more information more early,
and it probably encourages people further west, etc. And you
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don't get this long drawn out thing. So that might
be what is happening there. Just as a data point,
this is where the campaigns will be on the final day.
Trump Raleigh, North Carolina, Redden, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Harris's final day schedule Scranton, Pennsylvania, Allentown, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
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So you can see what each candidate is concentrating on
she seems concerned about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, and you know I tweeted about this yesterday. But
these last minute ads from the Harris campaign that like,
you know, vote for me, It'll be our little secret.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I don't want to tell anyone. I find them odd.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I wonder who they appeal to. The last one
was voiced by George Clooney. It showed these masculine men
going into the voting booth and you maybe think they're
going to vote for Donald Trump, but they actually vote
for Kamala Harris. And it's a whole like you don't
have to do what you're told kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And I don't know who this is.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I've never met people who don't want to tell you
that they're voting for Democrats.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's usually the other way around, even from red states.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, so I know a lot of liberals and a
lot of conservatives like you. I grew up in a
liberal town, but I am conservative. So I have like
two very different circles that sometimes overlap. Never have I
seen I shouldn't say never, almost never have I seen
a social cost for saying I'm voting for the Democrat
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for president.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Exactly, Even again in red states.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I don't think in Florida there's a social cost for it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I know, I know people who are voting for the
Democrats and they live in Florida, and that's just, you know,
a normal thing. I see, we see Harris signed. My
kids point them out.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I say, yeah, people, you know, we vote whoever they want.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's just it's it's an interesting closing message to me
because they clearly think that they are shy Harris voters
out there who need to be nudged to the polls. Now,
what's interesting about this to me also is that for
the last few elections, polsters had a hard time polling
Donald Trump supporters. And they've had that hard time because
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there was a social cost to saying, you're voting for
the garbage nazi.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Right, you're voting for Hitler. How could you tell that.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
To a stranger on the phone.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Now, the question is have they figured it out for
this time or are these polls still under counting Trump supporters.
If they are under counting Trump supporters, we actually might
have a landslide on that night.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's the big question. If the polling assumptions under rate
turnout for Trump, as they have in the past. Now,
the tricky thing about this is that Trump's trying to
pull from new populations. He hasn't He hasn't done gen
Z male voters via podcast before, right, so this is
a different thing. Minority voters by the way, reading Pennsylvania
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is a majority Latino town in Pennsylvania that he will
be going to today on that quest. But yeah, that's
the question. If if they're undermes estimated as they were
in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, then he might very
well run away with this thing. But if the assumptions
are correct, or.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Maybe if they figured it out.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, then it really is quite even. Nate Cohane, by
the way, who runs the New York Times Siena poll,
which came with very different suggestions of what might happen
than the than the Sellser poll, and the New York
Times poll has been an ongoing polling situation. The Salesor
poll is kind of a one off. He was saying
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that Republicans are sixteen points less likely to answer right
the survey, which is a that's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yep, Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Again, if there's been this social cost for so long
and you're so used to hiding who you're voting for.
I think that there is some has to be some
truth to that, right. I also wonder about exit polls.
I also think about you know, I'm looking to see
what the Jewish vote is going to do.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
This time around.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But even last time, where Donald Trump got thirty percent,
I do wonder if it was maybe higher because they
don't want to a first time Republican voter, your lifelong Democrat,
you're voting Republican for the first time in that Republican
is Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I did kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Wonder if those numbers were higher than they said.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right from the Cook Political Report, This Dave Wasserman, who
is a person just worth listening to because he knows
so many more of the numbers than I do. But
he notes Uncook Political Report, and I think this sums
it up pretty well. Will it be a turnout surge
of Trump bro gen z men, a post Dobbs backlash
of working class pro choice women, a decline in black
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turnout and support for Democrats, a late EBB and Latino
support for Trump, especially concentrated among Puerto Rican voters. That
is the reference to the joke by Tony Hinchcliffe at
the msg rally, which there is there. I saw a
glimpse of one little pole that did actually ask about
that and found some movement. But there's also a political
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piece today that says Trump's gains with Pennsylvania Latinos are real,
maybe enough to withstand that joke which seems a little
seems a little pessimistic from Politico on that point today.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I'm not sure that that joke, by not Donald Trump,
moves the needle.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I did see, you.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Know, the Puerto Rican musician who Donald Trump actually misgendered
at one point. He said she's really hot and it's
a guy has.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
That sounds very own.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Maybe that's what he meant to say, but you know
that guy has withdrawn his support.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Maybe it matters.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Jennifer Lopez of course, cried about about that joke and
about a lot of other things.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I'm sure, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I feel like this is still Donald Trump's race to lose,
and again the fact that it could go either way,
you know, doesn't even need to be said. Obviously, like
tomorrow or you know, tonight, we might find out that
Kamala Harris sweeps these dates. We don't know, I would
say to people listening that it's going to be okay,
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and that you have to find a way to care
about this. I do care about this result, but to
move forward if it doesn't make center.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That you hope that it will.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I agree, And I think the other thing for
our countrymen and women is having some grace for the
fact that many, many people are not super fans and
are voting just like people have always voted for someone
who best comes close to the kind of things they
care about, who might be able to help a little
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bit on the margins like that is that's often what
people are voting for. So have some grace for that,
because there's a lot of reasons that you could make
different decisions based on your family situation and your ideological beliefs.
By the way, one note on the Latino vote. I
was reading this political piece and Kamala Harris has been
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to reading Pennsylvania not since twenty twenty three, before she
was the nominee. Trump has been there in vance, have
been there several times, and in the closing days Waltz
has been there once for a tiny dinner with like
sort of elite leaders in the community. So that's just
a there's a pattern of Democrats taking certain voters for granted,
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uh huh, and those voters not liking it. Right, The
other side of the coin is that Democrats are really
good at turning out voters that they've taken for granted.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of call there, Yes, that's the thing, you know, we've
talked about it on the show, where certain groups have
become more likely to say that they're pro Trump out
loud than they ever were before, say black men.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But then you still have to move that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
From the conversations that they're having into the voting booth.
And who knows, maybe Republicans have figured it out, maybe
they haven't. We're about to find out.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We'll be right back on normally, it's a plus for
Republicans that the Senate map, as they call it, is
extremely positive for them. They're not fighting on a bunch
of vulnerable ground. They're fighting in several places where they're
likely to turn a blue seat red. Those places are
West Virginia quite certainly in the in the bag that's
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Jim Justice taking mansions open seat in West Virginia and Montana,
where Tim Sheehy has run a very good race against
long time incumbent John Tester, who has been Teflon tester
when it comes.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
To how does Montana have a democratic You know, Senator,
it's wild.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's real, but he does. They do seem nervous about
that race. She he took a lead like semi substantially
about a month ago. It felt like uh. And certainly
some Democrats have been nervous in Wisconsin where Huvedy the
Republican is running strongly against Tammy Baldwin, the incumbent Democrat.
So I think this is another thing to tell yourself,
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is that if you happen to favor Donald Trump and
Kamala Harris becomes president, there will likely be a Republican Senate.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, I don't know what you're going to tell yourself
if Donald Trump becomes president.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Sorry, we don't have advice for you.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean just you know, I just do believe that
in many cases, despite I think both teams irresponsible behavior
at times, the beauty of our system is that it
can hold up to challenges. And that's what I comfort myself.
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Even the electoral college. The electoral college is the reason
that none of us know what's going to happen, and
it's actually in the voter's hands because a tiny number
of voters in these states can change it from a
really close call to an electoral landslide.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I mean a prediction we can make is if Kamala
happens to win the popular vote and Donald Trump wins
electoral college, I think Democrats will go pretty hard against
the electoral college.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I can imagine that happening.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It could also go the other way around, and people
like you and I would probably be like, Okay, guys,
calm down. The electoral college is actually very important for
these reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, let's us keep it anyway, even if it didn't
go our way.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah. Can we talk about the little kerfuffle with NBC? Yes, okay,
So I think we've got a clip of this. Kamala
Harris appeared on Saturday Night Live, the last Saturday before
the election, on NBC's broadcast network. Here she is with
with Maya Rudolph playing her and the two are looking
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through a mirror at each other.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Nice to see you, Kamala. It is nice to see you, Kamala,
And I'm just here to remind you you got this
because you can do something your opponent cannot do.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You can open doors.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I see what you did. I like to be a
garbage truck. Right, I don't really laugh like.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That, do I?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A little bit?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Not Kamala, take my Pamela.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
The American people want to stop the chaos.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
And end the dramaa with a cool new step Mamala,
kick back in our pajamaa's and watch a rom Kamala
like legally Blondola, and start decorating for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Follow la la la, because what do we always say?
Keep Kamala and carry on?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Alah?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's actually the first time I've seen it, So you're
getting a live reaction of I am embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I want to like hide my eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That was not good, and it was not good, and
it could have been good. She started out sort of
making fun of herself. Do I really laugh like that?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
If she continued, you get points that for me every time?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sure, any self deprecating humor. I think when it went
a long way.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
There was a segment of said in a night Live
that I did see where Tim Kaine, you know, talks
to a liberal voter who says it's the most important
election of our lifetime, and he says, well, I ran
eight years ago and you said that was the most
important election of our lifetime. What's my name? And the
liberal voter can't name him? And it was very well done.
Tim Kaine understood that, you know, he's kind of forgettable.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
And what are you going to do? But this was
not funny.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
And I also, I know, I know there's a big
kerfuffle about the fact that they didn't give Donald Trump
equal time. One of the people I follow on X,
Michael Schellenberg, is all over it, and I get it.
It's it's important to not have these channels just break
the rules and nobody cares. But I don't know that
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this would move the needle who saw this and was like,
I was going to vote for Donald Trump, but now
I'm voting for this.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So I but that the skit with Maya Rudolph was cute,
but it was cute because my Rudolph is cute, Yes,
and I appreciated the self deprecation. I would say. There's
there's this moment where they open where the camera goes
to Kamala Harris and again, I know I am talk
about this all the time, but she's been doing this
for decades. The camera comes to her, obviously there's going
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to be applause, right this is the reveal. She talks
right through the applause. No one can hear her. She's
delivering her lines, And I just, how have you been
doing this for decades and you don't know like's they're
going to reveal you. People are going to cheer, take
your moment and then launch into it. So that's just
a skill issue that she has. I don't care about
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the equal time rule. It is. It should be enforced
equally since it's on the books, but it probably shouldn't
be on the books because it's a dinosaur from a
time when we had three networks. However, Trump did get
a minute and a half two minutes for free on
NBC during the Sunday night football broadcast because they're required
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to give it to him, and so he did basically
like up straight to camera political ad on football night,
which is like, you know, pretty good targeting of male voters. Yeah,
not that we don't watch football. We do.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
We do watch football.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Again, I don't know that any needles will be moved
there either. I again, like, you think it's the right
thing to do because the rules on the books, and I.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Think the rules rather silly.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But if it's there, let's force it, But who who's
at home on Sunday night still deciding who they're voting
for today?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Who are you?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
People?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Tell me who you are.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We talk to us normally the pod at gmail dot
com Sunday tail us election. You were undecided about what
you were going to do.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And it has to be between the two candidates.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
It can't be like the candidate or staying home because
I am staying home.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I get that too. So the Kine thing I enjoyed too.
So Tim Kaine is the now basically anonymous Virginia senator
who was Hillary Clinton's running mate. And the game show
skit was name this person, and they would just show
you a picture of someone and you'd have to name them.
And of course the contestant, a good liberal, knew who
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Doug Imhoff was, knew who the special counsel was, Like
who you know? Whoever? They throw up? And I think
my favorite part was when I said, in twenty twenty,
you tweeted this list of names of black victims of
police violence and said remember their names. So my question
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to you is what is one of their names? And
he gets very excited and the host goes, that is
not George Floyd so good, even better. The answer is
to me know, Lens, and I just I want to
applaud Mullaney. John mulaney was the comic and the host
and the writers for for that one, because I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It was excellent.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It actually secured liberals for the thing that they do.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, and that's they're funny when they kind of poke
at both sides. They're not funny when they're singing Hallelujah
after Hillary Clinton losers. Funny can be good no matter
who's being made fun of. H don't get preachy, don't
get sanctimonious, don't sing us songs.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yes, not that hard. Hung Cow, by the way, is
a is the candidate Republican candidate for Senate in Virginia
against him Kane. And he put out a great statement
because people were saying, hey, Hung Cow now needs to
get time for equal time, which may actually be the rules.
And Hung Cow put out a great statement that was like,
you know, he was in New York and I was
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barnstorming Virginia. So I think he's made the contrast for me.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Ooh, it's good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I thought that was quite good.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Is that raised closed or.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well? Virginia's probably not very close, so I doubt that
hun Cow, who is a very impressive veteran, will pull
off that race. Certainly, the young Cain turnout machine is
much better and more sophisticated than in years past we've
had for Republicans in Virginia. I have heard. Incidentally, since
we're doing tea leaf reading, I've heard I've been asking
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suburban moms in northern Virginia are you getting door knocks?
Are you getting outreach? Because Harris says she's reaching these
women my soft are as. They're called moderate Republican, not
very friendly to Trump women friends, and no door knocks
for any of them. Right, Kamala has more money than God.
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I know that Virginia is not in play, but like so,
no door knocks. But a friend of mine in northern
Virginia got three door knocks from a very enthusiastic Asian
American voters and canvassers for Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Interesting, Wow, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I was not expecting that to be where the energy
was in Northern Virgins.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really funny.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, and I wonder if that's young can turnout machine.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, there's also about the whole shy Harris voter there's
a story where some Harris door knockers are asking for
the woman of the house to come to the door
and the man is saying no, And from this they're
deducing that the woman's like being kept in a cage
or in the basement or something, right, Whereas all these
women on X are saying, well, no, my husband answers
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the door because he's digging strong and can bite.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Off an intruder.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And I don't want to talk to strangers, that's the
main part. I don't want to talk to you, so
he does the dirty work for me, and I'm not
actually living in a cage.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You asked who these ads appeal to, and I think, actually,
I'm not sure it's an effective appeal to soft Republican
women who I don't think see their marriages as emotionally
abusive and that they have to hide things like that
is a dynamic that can exist, but when you put
so many people in that bucket, it's sort of extremely condescending.
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I think it's targeted at their other giant constituency of women,
which is unmarried liberal women who.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Want to imagine that these married women.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yes, I don't know, Yeah, I guess so or that
there are so many unmarried liberal women who think this
way about marriage in the Democratic Party. Yes, they're writing
the ads and creating this right.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
They have no idea what actually goes on, and they
think that they.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Know, but it seems off base.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I've also heard from men who say, I actually have
to tone down my pro trumpness for my wife so
that our marriage days happy and blissful.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And there's no ads about that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, I do wonder if it's sort of backfires because
I've heard from suburban women here. Again, this is all
just he leaves, but this is antic data, as they
call it, But I've heard from suburban women around here
that like that last minute appeal sort of backfired because
they're reluctant Trump voters, and they're like, I guess it
would be secret, wouldn't it, Because I think I think
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the chances of the shy woman voter being a Trump
voter who's hiding it from her book club much more
likely is more likely?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yes, Yeah, it also creates the dynamic of all your
friends and family are voting for Trump, but you don't
have to.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
But then that makes it seem like everyone around.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You is voting for Trump, like I'm not sure that's
true for most of these people either.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But right, right, I think I my husband sent me
my my normy husband is such a great gauge for
this stuff, as is yours.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Same same.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
In fact, the other yesterday watching football, and I didn't
torture him too much, so don't worry yesterday watching well,
he goes it's such a great Normy moment because wait,
how do they make polls? They just call people and
ask them who they're voting for. And I'm like, I'm
like pulling out twenty years of polling history to explain
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to him, right, And I look, I kept my soliloquy short.
We were watching football, but I did go through some
of the ideas with him. But it's interesting to me
what hits with him. And one of the things that
he sent me was the official Harris Wall's Freedom Town
USA map in Fortnite, Yeah, which is a very popular
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video game. Freedom Town has no weapons allowed, no talking
to other players, no custom building. In other words, the
many things that you like to do in Fortnite you
cannot do in Freedom Town. This is that free no.
And it's a pitch to young men, which I think, Look,
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it's cute to get in a video game and attempt this.
I think that is like not a bad idea, just
like a Madden thing was not a bad idea. Yeah,
but then you like the problem with reaching young men
is that you're reaching a demographic that is so happy
to goof on you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like yes, yeah, you got to get it right or
they will make fun of you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So like this has been going around his chats, like
crazy players collect five posters with Harris campaign messages on
them and deliver them to a Harris Walls political rally. Yeah, yeah,
that's the that's the game sounds. He also pointed out
to me we watched some Twitch at our house, and
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that's a place where a lot of young men gather.
It's a largely video game streaming. You watch other people
play video games. And Trump has a Twitch channel, as
does Kamala Harris, but Trump started his much earlier. It
has a huge number of people subscribe hers far fewer,
and it is an interesting bit of outreach. This is
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not my thing, but they send notification every time Trump
has a rally and you get like tens of thousands
of people streaming the rally while he's wherever he is.
Three times a day.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I am, I'm too old for this, but I
appreciate girl goes on.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, well, I do think if they're going if
the Trump theory of victory is that you bring these
young men to the polls, reaching them many many times,
giving them a notification on their phone when you have
a rally. Smart, that's how they keep thinking about you.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yep, yep, and you hit them where they're where they
are right. It's they're already on this on this twitch
and it's smart. We're going to take a short break
and come right back with normally. My normy husband and
I had some places that we voted differently this time around.
I know we're told that women don't get to vote
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how they how they want. Their husbands make them. Actually
our house, I'm like, next time, I'm not even telling
you when, when and where to vote because.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
This was no good. We can't you the wrong way, man.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, And like, I am not and I'm the you know,
I'm the driver of the operation in our house.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
And next time, I'm not even like telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You figure out where to vote on your own.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
This is an interesting thing about the mail vote, by
the way, because men vote at a lower rate than
women do, and I think part of the reason for that.
And by the way, just to to shout out to
my husband, this is not the case in my house.
In many cases, women solely keep the family calendar. They
know when the deadlines are, they know when the PaperWorks do,
they know where the polling place is. That's us And
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in my family, I'm not the person who does all
of that stuff. He's got quite a bit more skill
for those kind of things than I do, so it's
a little more evenly split. But I think that's the answer.
Like getting a twenty five year old dude to turn
in paperwork and then go to the polls. There are
some exceptional ones, but like it's it's like a more
(30:00):
of an ask than a twenty seven to twenty eight
year old woman.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Right, absolutely, yeah, I wonder.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I mean we'll see, right, we'll see if they manage
to get those twenty five year olds registered and then
to show up to where they need to be and when.
And you know, early voting is only only certain dates
and it's in one poll location, then your voting.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Your votes in another one.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, yeah, we'll see if they if they succeeded this
or not.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
But yeah, you know, one way or the other, this.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Election season is coming to an end and can't be
too sad about that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. By the way, I will be on Fox News
broadcast for Election night, so if you want to see that,
not out not the News channel, which will be the
I think the more comprehensive coverage We'll be cutting in
occasionally on the Fox broadcast channel. Shannon Breem, Guy Benson,
myself amazing. Yeah, but we'll be watching for sure. You
can see me get increasingly more insane as the night
(30:53):
goes on. They like, well, Shannon, it's two am. We
don't know what's happening. And I would just like to
say that if you're the praying type, now would be
the time to do so for me to go to bed.
So that's what I'm up to. What are you going
to be up to, Carol? How do you spend your
election nights? You know?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I was going to just stay in.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I might do some shows on the old internets.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I've been invited to some stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I kind of want to be I might be home
just watching the returns and not having to be happy
or sad.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Or anything, just just taking.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It all in and waking up my husband at like
ten thirty to let him know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I love that. That's most early.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
In twenty sixteen, I woke him up and I was
like Trump won and like confusion on his face, like
we went to sleep with you know, Hillary Clinton ninety
plus percentage likelihood of winning, and yeah, I like to
deliver the news to him.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I was on the porch with my neighbors having a
beer in twenty sixteen watching the returns, like on an
iPad or something, and there was a little bit of
John King looking for votes for Hillary in Michigan, and I,
being the one who knows all the counties, was like,
if they're looking for votes there, this thing is over.
(32:11):
And my neighbors were like really, and I was like, yeah,
it's amazing. And then in twenty twenty I had a
nice cozy at home election night and was like what
will be will be?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, that's where I am. And you know, again, no
matter of what happens, stay close to your family, love
your neighbors and all that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yes, and voting your local races because those people have
a lot of control over your life.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Absolutely, As we learned in the last few years, local
races really really do matter, really matter well. Thanks for
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