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May 14, 2024 21 mins
Clay and Buck spent twenty minutes covering a wide range of topics, including how he plans to turn the country around and what states he thinks are now in play.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Klay Travis buck Sexton show. We are joined
by forty five and soon to be forty seven, the
man himself, President Donald Trump, and we wanted to start
right off because.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know you're in New York, you're in the middle
of the trial.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We appreciate the time we were blown away by the
crowd that you had in Wildwood, New Jersey. A guy
I think you know, Mark Simone, said that he thinks
you can win New York. Your campaign, we know, said
Virginia and Minnesota are both competitive. Based on the reaction
you're getting in New York and New Jersey, do you

(00:35):
think you can make a run in that area.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
In New York in particular.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, they say we're in play. And the beautiful thing
about New York, you win New York, that takes their
cheating out of play because they won't be able to
will any state that they win by cheating will more
than make up for it with New York and New Jersey.
So we have great pols. We were one up in
New Jersey. We're very close to New York, you know,
outside of the actual city which now is so bad

(01:03):
that I look, if I live here, I'm going to
vote for the Republican no matter who, and Trump is
sort of the good Republican. But you know, leez Eldon
is a great guy. He's solely supportive of us. He's
if he would have been running today instead of two
years ago, he would have picked up a ten point difference.
You know, he won close, but it would have been
ten points better. And I think New York is in play.

(01:25):
I think Virginia. I think that New Mexico and Minnesota.
I think there are a lot of states in play
that people aren't thinking about. They're so dissatisfied with the
worst president in the history of our country. He's the worst. Look,
I don't have to convince you people you know better
than me. He's two of the people that might know
better than me. He is the worst president in the

(01:45):
history of our country without.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Coin, There's no question, no question about that. I mean,
you were speaking about a great guy, Lee Zelden. A
lot of speculation right now, mister President, about who your
VP might be. Now, if you want to tell us
who it is now, we're not going to stop you.
But if you just maybe want to get us a
top three, top.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Three, well I won't do three, but I will say,
we have a lot of good people, and you know,
Lee will definitely be somewhere in here in terms of
the administration. He's great. You know, he's a great lawyer too.
He's actually a very he was fantastic on the impeachment
hoax when he was a congressman. And he'll be coming
with me in some form anyway at a high level.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But Tim, Jim Scott in play, jd Vance in play
are these are all names, the names that are being talked.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
About, like a lot of people are in play. And
I'm really a believer that you do it during the convention.
You know, you really do it during the convention. I'm
also unfortunately a believing that historically vps I don't think
ever have helped. I think they can hurt a little bit,
but they haven't helped. It's you know, you have one
exciting day and then you're back to the president is running.

(02:53):
But you need somebody that can be good just in
case that that horrible, just in case. You know, look,
that's a big situation and you have to go with it,
but just in case, and you need somebody that can
ideally help you get the votes. But I will say
the single most important ingredient is will that person be
a great president? That's a very important thing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm sure you've seen some of the Christy Nome stories.
She might be the only person getting worse pressed than
you on the left. Right now with the dog shooting
story and then the Kim Jong un story, you met
Kim Jong un, I'm curious what that relationship is like.
Now does any of that story? Is she still in
the mix as a VP? Have you thought maybe she'd

(03:34):
make more sense in a cabinet? How do you analyze
stories like that as you go about making a choice.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, until this week, she was doing incredibly well, and
she got hit hard. And sometimes you do books and
you have some guy writing a book and you maybe
don't read it as carefully. You know, you have ghostwriters too.
They help you, and they in this case didn't help
too much. Now she's terrific. Look, she's been a supporter
of mine from day once. She did a great job

(04:00):
of governor as governor, and you know, you look at
South Dakota numbers, he's really done a great job. And
in some form, I mean I think I think she's terrific.
A couple of rough stories, there's no question about it,
and when explained the dog story. You know, people people
hear that, and people from different parts of the country

(04:21):
probably feel a little bit differently. But that's a tough story.
But she's a terrific person. She's had a she had
a bad she had a bad week.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
We'll have to if I can, if I can miss
a president, and we're speaking to number forty five, President
Trump and as Clay said, future number forty seven, Uh, sir,
this so far, this Coen trial, I'm sorry, this New
York City trial where Michael Cohen testified. It would be
hard to think of something that is both more absurd
and more more outrageous than what they're doing to you in.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
New York that it doesn't seem to be working.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I just wanted to give you the chance to address
everyone across the country. It seems like this is backfiring
in the Democrats faces of the Biden prosecution.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's one of the most disgusting things that anybody's ever
seen in the history of our country. In terms of elections.
It's third world country. What they've done is weaponize the
DOJ the FBI. They've weaponized and you could see it
coming with these people they are truly the ones. They
are bad for democracy. You know, they like to say
a threat to democracy. They are a threat. And part

(05:28):
of it is that we have a president that's totally
you know, incompetent, but they are so bad what they're
doing with this hoax. And you know, I have a
gag order where many very important parts of it I'm
not allowed because we have a totally corrupt we have
a corrupt judge and a conflicted judge. He's conflicted like

(05:51):
no judge has ever been before. And the mainstream media
knows exactly what I'm saying, but they try and keep
it down to a minor roar. No. Highly conflicted, and
this is a case that should have never been allowed.
You know, Alvin Bragg, the DA who's a terrible DA.
Crime is rampant, I mean, violent crime is all over
the city at levels, I mean levels that people have

(06:12):
never seen before. And he's got like twenty guys sitting
in their assistant das over absolutely what Jonathan Turley, what
Andy McCarthy, what Mark Levin, all your friends, what every
one of them said, is not a crime. There's nothing,
There's not a case. And I've been sitting there for
almost four weeks in this ice box. I call it

(06:34):
the icebox, and in front of a judge. It's so
highly conflicted. He should not be allowed to be doing
this trial. And it's so bad for New York. But
I had two other cases too, I had Judge Caplan
and Judge and Goren, and they should they should not
be allowed to even serve when you see what they did.
So I've been set up with bad judges. It's so

(06:56):
bad for New York. It's so horrible for New York
what's taking place. But this one is going on, and
literally every scholar, every legal expert, and you guys, but
everybody has said that this is a case that shouldn't happen.
Alvin Bragg, you know, when he originally came in said
there's no way you have a case here. He got angry.
And then when the election, you know, they could have

(07:17):
brought this case seven years ago. They could have brought
it seven years ago, but they chose to bring it
right in the middle of my campaign. Nobody's ever seen
anything like it. There's no crime. I mean Mark Levin
was doing last night, his show is great, and he
was going, there is no crime, and he's giving you
fifteen reasons why it's terrible. It's a terrible, terrible thing.

(07:37):
But when you look at McCarthy and Turly and Greg Jared,
who's fantastic. You look at all of these people and
they all say the same thing. It's I mean, I
haven't seen anybody that says it's even a case. But
I'm not allowed to speak. Can you believe I'm gagged?
They gave me a gag order where I'm not allowed

(07:58):
to speak about major portions of the case.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Is this election already ripped, sir, given what they're doing
to you? Is it already rigged? Because I don't see
how we could say it's not.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, they're trying to rig it with this. This is
their new form. And remember I have a voice. So
the truth is my poll numbers you saw the New
York Times fault today.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh yeah, my poll.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Numbers are better than they ever were, probably better than
they would have been had, you know, had this this
horrible hoax not taken place. And it's not only here,
it's you have Fani in Atlanta, and you have Jack
deranged Jack Smith. He's a deranged individual, and he's got
a problem in Florida. Because if you watch and you
look at these reports. They caught them tampering with evidence,

(08:38):
and he's got some I think he's got some problems.
And he always has that problems. You know, he goes
too far and he gets himself into trouble. But he's
got big problems here. They caught him tampering with evidence
and worse. As you say, say that.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know Biden.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I won't make you say it, but I think you
know Biden is behind this. It's not Biden himself because
he's not smart enough for mentally competent enough to be
able to organize all of this anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Which leads me into this.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know, he's got guys having to help him walk
to the helicopter, as you well know, across the lawn
there he can't read off the teleprompter. You see all
the screw ups on a regular basis. Do you really
think he's gonna be running against you? Do you think
he'll they'll let him debate you, or do you think
they're gonna pull a bait and switch at the last minute.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I mean, I personally don't think so, but I've been
saying that for a while. I personally don't think so, but.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know, you don't think he's gonna run. You don't
think he's gonna run.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Not that they're not gonna pull a bait and switch,
but you don't think he's able.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think at some point he goes out. I think,
so what do I know? You know? I mean, I
can only say that here he is, and he was
never the sharpest bulb in the room ever, and now
he's It's so dangerous for our country. You know, we're
dealing with Putin, We're dealing with President Shie of China,
Kim Jonglin. We're dealing with these people that are one

(10:00):
hundred percent there at the top of their game and
they can't believe it. And this, you know, it could
lead to Third World War. This is we still have
a little bit more than five months to go. And actually,
if you really look, I guess September. Toward the end
of September, Pennsylvania starts. And so we're really talking about
a lot less than that, because we really have to
think in terms of that when they start. You know,

(10:21):
in the old days would have a one day election,
it would have paper ballots and would have a lot
of good things. Now we have elections that start forty
five days earlier than they're opposed to, and they keep going,
they keep going until they get enough ballots. This is
their form of cheating. And I have a voice, so
I'm able to talk about it. And you know it's
been it's never pleasant. I mean it's never pleasant doing this,

(10:44):
but we have to. These are fascists. But you know,
if they have a good congressman and they send him
a subpoena, he might as well resign because he doesn't
have a chance of, you know, explaining to people to
vote for him anymore. So I have such respect for
the American public because they fed them all this nonsense.
It's just garbage. You take a look at these what

(11:05):
they've done. Well, look at this case. Look at the
way it's playing out again, not one legal experts does
they even have a case. There's not even a crime.
And it's a very sad day in America. And it's
a very sad day for New York. But you take
a look at Atlanta with Fani and her lover Wade,
and you know that's a whole scam. And Jack Smith's

(11:25):
two cases is a whole scam. The whole thing was
done because they want to hit Biden's opponent, his political opponent,
to see if they can get them over the line.
I don't think it's going to work. I tell you
because you saw the crowd in New Jersey. It may
have been the largest crowd ever for a not just
in New Jersey. I mean it was well over one
hundred thousand people. We expected forty five thousand we had.

(11:47):
I mean you guys saw the crowd. Oh, I don't
think you've ever seen a crowd like that at a
political event. Yeah, it was a great honor. Talking about time.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
You're talking about we got to come to one of these.
When you talk about the.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Child, I love it.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, Well, we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Challenge. We have a number of them. We have a
lot of them coming up. You know, it really begins
just about now. And when you get through a couple
of more months and we are you going to be
doing a lot, you'll come with me. I'd love to
have you here.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
That'll be awes.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
We'd love that.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
We definitely come along in terms of fixing the country,
saving the country, sir, you mentioned some of the foreign challenges.
I think, and you know this as well better than anybody.
If you're looking at challenges for America right now, the
wide open Biden border is.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Absolutely top of the list. People are outraged. It's going
to be eight million at least.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I mean, that's going to be the official number by
the time votes are being cast. Eight million illegals under Biden.
Who knows how many actually in the country. You've talked
about finishing the wall, and you've talked about deportations. What
can you tell us about the first ninety days of
a Trump forty seven presidency on those two issues.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, first of all, it's not eight million. It's fifteen
million are already in the country, in my opinion, and
a lot of them come from prisons, and they come
from mental institutions, and I go a step beyond that,
from insane asylums. You got a lot of terrorists coming
into the country. Now we're gonna have to deport We're
gonna have a very large scale deportation operation. And nobody

(13:13):
wants to do that. We have no choice. It's not
sustainable by any country. There's no country that a thing
like this is sustainable by. You can't you can't have it.
I mean, I look at it. I'm in New York
right now, and you see what's going on with with
people they're taking up. You don't have the use of parks,
you don't have the use of schools and hospitals. It's

(13:34):
the whole quality of life in our country is changing
because of this, and nobody can say it's good. Politically now,
of course, what they're trying to do is register people
to vote, because that's another form of cheating. Also, there
are two big forms are that there are new forms
that they're adding into their arsenal because they're bad at everything.
Policy is no good. Look at Afghanistan, that disaster, the

(13:55):
most embarrassing day in the history of the country. Their
policy is no good. They want, you know, if they won,
taxes are going to go up by four times, four
times for middle class but four times. And you know,
they're no good at policy. The only thing they're really
good at is cheating. And they have two new methods,
and one is the weaponization, which is what I'm putting

(14:17):
up with th others too, but I'm you know, I'm
definitely I'm the key, there's no question about it. And
then the other is having to do having to register
voters because they're taking these people who can't speak English,
who don't even know what this country is, and they're
registering them and trying to get them out to vote.
And I only implore the Republicans to be tough because

(14:41):
they don't play as tough a game. Unfortunately, there's so
much better on policy, so much better on so many
but they're not better when it comes to this stuff. Fellas,
it's a terrible thing, terrible.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You I know no New York City, Well you also
know the Ivy League. Well, because you're a graduate, you
got called an anti Semite, which is unbelievable considering your
daughter is Jewish and you got Jewish grandchildren. Joe Biden
said he ran for president because of Charlottesville, bought into
the very Fine people hoax. When you see his failure

(15:13):
to stand up for Jewish people and for Israel's right
to defend itself, how sick does it make you to
your stomach? And also how weak is the media to
not remotely be holding him to the same standard they
do for all the country as they did for you.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
For Charlottesville by itself.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
That's true. So he is the worst president we've ever
had in the history of our country. But he's the
worst president that Israel has ever had in the United States.
It is not even a contest. He's a horror show.
And I'm the best president that Israel's ever had. I
mean what I've done for Israel between the capital and
and the Iran nuclear deal by the way, you know,
let's not forget about that. That could have been the

(15:53):
best of all. But they didn't do anything with it.
You know, they could have. They could have had a
deal so fast with the wren I would have had
a deal was broke when I was president. They wanted
to make a deal. Now, Iran is a rich country again.
Iran has two hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of
cash because of the oil and because we give him
six billion dollars every time there's a hostage trade to

(16:14):
end up with six million dollars. We gave them ten
billion dollars for electricity to Iraq. But there are rich.
They have two hundred and fifty billion dollars in cash
right now. It's a tougher negotiation by a factor of fifty.
But I am the best president ever ever for Israel
by far. And he's the worst president ever. And who

(16:37):
would think it? Who would think it?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Not surprising to us given Biden's history of failure on
the foreign policy front, mister president. But right in terms
of you know, they've walked away from the Biden economy,
you're not hearing about that, you know Biden's economy anymore.
Inflation still stubborn, people paying high prices. Why did this
happen under this president? And what are you going to

(17:00):
do to change things around when you win?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
So when he came in, he stopped the oil, and
when he stopped you and now he's let it go
back to where I was, because otherwise he would have
you'd have oil it you'd be paying so much for
gasoline that people wouldn't even believe it. But already it's
getting close to four dollars, and in California it's over
seven dollars. It's creeping up very rapidly. But he stopped
the oil, and that caused the inflation very simply. And

(17:23):
we're going to bring energy way down. Energy costs are
going to be way down, and places like New England
where you have the highest energy courses, New York, where
you have the highest energy costs in the whole country,
by far, I'll be able to cut their energy bills
in half and quickly. These people that's what caused it,
what they did with his stupid energy policies. He also

(17:45):
made other countries rich. He made Russia so rich that
they said, gee, whiz, I'm going to go. You know,
a combination of that in Afghanistan where Putin said, wow,
I'm going to go and attack Ukraine. Now you know
he had oil up almost one hundred dollars a barrel.
When that happens, Putin makes his money from oil. They
became rich, and they attacked, and that's what happened. It's

(18:06):
a sad thing, so sad to see what's happened to
our country in a period of three and a half years.
But we're gonna make it. We'll make it greater than
ever before. You watch the border. We had the strongest
border ever. I built five hundred and seventy one miles
of wall. We're going to add another two hundred and
three weeks. It was all made, all fabricated. They sold
it for five cents on the dollar. The wall was

(18:28):
all fabricated. I built much more wall than I said
I was going to build, but we did five hundred
and seventy one miles. We had the strongest border in history.
We had remained in Mexico. You couldn't come in. You
had to say in Mexico, all of these things out
the window when this character came in. And look, he
has no clue what he's doing, but he is surrounded

(18:48):
by very smart fascists and the only thing they know
how to do is stay in power. That's about the
only thing they're good at. But we're going to beat
him big in five months.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Last question for you.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know you're busy keep up the fight at the
trial because you know, I think you're adding more supporters
every single day. I think it's backfired on them. This
is a light question for you. I know you're a
huge sports fan. I don't know if you've got a
chance to see the Tom Brady roast that it aired
on Netflix or any of the segments. Robert Kraft, your
old friend told Vladimir Putin that he wanted his NFL

(19:23):
Super Bowl ring back.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Putin, he says, stole it. Have you ever been roasted
like that?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Are you surprised that Tom Brady, who I know you're
a big fan of, took it and would you ever
want to do something like that?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well, I was roasted on Comedy Central and before I
was long before I was president, actually, and it was
not a pleasant evening. I will tell you.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
They roasted me.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
They roasted the hell out of me. But it's fun.
Look it was a good cause, money went to charity.
A lot of good things happened. But no, I was roasted.
If you have a look at that one, you'll see
what a roast is all about.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
But when Clay got roasted by the view recently, mister president,
I did you know.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
It could have happens on a daily basis.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I was on Whoopies movie. She made a movie, a
basketball movie. So could you do the movie for me?
Could you do? Joy? Behar would she what she would
do for me? She'd do anything. All of a sudden,
I run for politics and they pretend like, gee, we
hate check out Whoopies movie. I said, take me out
of your movie. I did a big cameo in Whoopies movie.

(20:26):
You know it's you.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Are still the best part of Home Alone too, by
the way, So for those of us that can remember.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's a good one. That was a very good one.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Mister president.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
We know you got to go and you know, defeat
all the nonsense and win a huge election. And make
history again playing buck here with you. Thank you so much,
really appreciate your time as always.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, I appreciate you guys. You do a fantastic job.
And we'll talk again soon. We're gonna have some We're
gonna have some other talks too. I know that that
sounds like pretty much, fellas.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Take an event you want us to come to. Would
be happy to be there on the road when you
get out for the rallies.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You're killing it.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Will do it this starting very soon. That was a
big one this week. Thanks a lot, Thanks, thank you,
thank you, sir,

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