May 5, 2023 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody to the Buck Sexton Show, and we
have a very exciting guest. We always have a very
exciting guests, but particularly exciting this time. Roma de Ravi
is with us. She worked on the Trump twenty sixteen
victorious presidential campaign. She also worked in the Trump White
House and now does political communications and strategy of her own. Roma,
(00:25):
good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thanks for joining, of course, it's great to be with you. Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
All right, let's start the big thing right now? Is
It's interesting because there's a couple levels to this debates,
right Trump has said, and I want you to tackle
these for me separately. Trump has said that he may
not even be willing to debate if he's like, really
far ahead of the competition, which is interesting. And then
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beyond that, I wonder if how Biden will react to
this as well. Will Biden if Trump is a nominee,
debate him. But let's take these in order. Trump in
the primaries, what's his position right now? What do you
think of this possibility of debates not happening?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, look, I think there's a whole lot that you
have to tackle in that For starters, Trump doesn't really
have any serious opponents. At this time, everybody is talking
about Ronda Santas. But as of April first, today, he
has not announced that he's running for president. So at
this point, everybody else who is running against him has
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less than five percent, not even double digits in the
polls right now. So Trump is absolutely leading. His numbers
are going up every single day. I have no doubt
in my mind that he is going to be the
front runner for the Republican Party. So if he's saying
he doesn't want to do it, maybe he's saying it's
a waste of time because there's no one else to
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really talk to. But I mean, it's only spring. The
debates don't start until August, right, we only know about
a couple of them right now. There's a whole slew
of them that are going to be announced. Really, anything
can happen. I wouldn't go and make a bet just
yet that he's not going to be on that debate stage.
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It would probably be a losing bet. I would go
ahead and assume that he will be up there, mainly
because he's so good at it. I think it would
be a loss to him to not be up there.
So many people have fond memories of President Trump up
on the debate stage making everybody else look like idiots,
I might add, So it really is up to him
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if he wants to do it or not. But I
think it's too early to say if it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you have some just either anecdote or data you
can share because you're working on the twenty sixteen campaign.
Klay and I were just talking with this on radio
or thinking about major debate victories in presidential debates, right
and we were talking about Trump twenty sixteen. Actually the
first debate in twenty twelve between Romney and Obama, which
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I think people forget, but that was a total, you know,
just wipe out of Obama by mid Romney, which right
now to say that is almost but if anyone goes
back and watches it, they'll remember. But in twenty sixteen
Trump and Hillary. Did you see a bump after that?
Because one of the things that comes up now is
do debates really move the needle in your experience in
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twenty sixteen, did the debates move the needle for Trump
against Hillary? Or was it the rest of the campaign
and the debates were kind of an afterthought?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, the debates are a really interesting environment because you
tackle these very serious policy issues, and if you have
a good person running the debates, they'll go through every
single one. They will talk about everything from the economy
to foreign policy, and they will press the people that
are on that stage. At the same time, debates do
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offer a platform that's a little bit less stagnant, right,
so it's very fluid. Everybody that's up there has a
chance to really show who they are to the American people.
Donald Trump did a great job of doing that. He
knew his facts, he knew his stuff. He went up
there and he made really strong arguments on the policy
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side of things, and he took time to actually make
a few jabs at Hillary that, in my opinion, really
helped the American people realize he's just like them. He
knows how to throw a punch, he knows how to
crack a joke. It makes him seem more real to
the American people. So I think the debate stage is
a really interesting environment. I would love to see him
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up there. I do think it helps him as a
candidate when talking to people like Joe Biden, right, So
it really the comparing contrast. You can only believe your
own eyes at that point rather than listening to the
left media and whatever lies they're telling you. If you're
looking at Donald Trump standing next to Joe Biden, the
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strength is right there in front of your eyes, and
the weakness is standing next to it in the current president.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Do you think I mean, we all remember the Heiden
Biden twenty twenty campaign right where it's like he wasn't
oh because of COVID and he had a double mask
and all that stuff that he didn't really do a
whole lot of campaigning. But it feels like it would
be a whole nother level of Hyde Hide and Biden
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if he refused to debate Trump as the Republican nominee.
Do you think, I mean, from just a comm's perspective,
do you think that's a serious that's a serious possibility,
because it seems like people are already raising that maybe preemptively,
Like you know, Joe Biden, he's not even go to
platform Trump. That's what I've been hearing by debating.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Him right well, Joe Biden had a really interesting environment,
like you mentioned when he ran last time. Not only
was it COVID, but he had the Obama administration as
his backdrop for the campaign. He had Obama's so called
wins from the administration and that he could run on.
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But the Biden administration has had failure after failure after failure,
both regionally and on the national stage. So this time around,
he's going to have a really tough time hiding Biden,
Hide and Biden right, like we say in the basement,
because he does have to kind of go out and
take charge and try to make a case to the
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American people that he's done a good job when the
reality is we know that there's just a bunch of
negatives that are on his call sheet. So it's really
going to be tough for him to hide this time.
But I will say that the Democrats, they're kind of
the party of staying in line, right. They're really not
the party of freedom, that is the Republican party. That
is why we as a party have a tough time
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speaking from the same song sheet, whereas the Democrats have
no problem reading the exact same phrase over and over again.
It's the socialist mindsets, the communist mindset, it's the Democrat mindset.
Unfortunately nowadays it is so they do a very good
job at staying in line. I don't think Joe Biden
is the one calling the shots right now. I think
somebody will tell him whether he's going to debate and
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whether or not he's going to be out campaigning. But
the left media is really who is pushing the narrative
for him, so they have an advantage the left. If
he does stay quiet, then all the Americans have to
go off of is what the mainstream media is telling them,
which is a bunch of lies unfortunately. So I really
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am urging friends, family, neighbors, everybody to pay attention to
as much digital content as they can moving forward, outlets
like yours buck that are streaming things that are not
just on their TV on cable news, because they need
to find a variety of content if they're really going
to get the facts moving forward.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Rom I want to come back and ask you to
just make the case to everybody who's listening or watching
about why. I mean, you were there in twenty sixteen,
and I think the big thing for a lot of
people is is this going to be twenty sixteen in
terms of the result or is this going to be
twenty twenty in terms of the result. I want you
to tackle that for us when we come back in
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who maybe they are Nicky Haley people, maybe they're vivek
maybe they're Ron DeSantis, and they just worry that Trump
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won't be able to They love Trump, they voted for Trump,
but they think that Trump won't be able to get
it done in twenty twenty four. What would be your
pitch to them? How can you help sell those people
on this is going to be a victory for the
GOP with Donald Trump at the helm.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, I think if they're being honest with themselves, they
know who is going to be able to win this election,
and it's Donald Trump. If you talk to anybody, even
the people that have concerns, they still love him. Like
you said, they still know that he's the winner that
they all know and love. And so I really do
think that if you focus on the facts and the policy,
he's the only person that can get it done. The
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Democrat process is a beautiful thing. I'm really excited to
see a wide pool of candidates jump into this thing.
We've never been in this position before in America in
the modern day, to have a former president in an
unconsecutive term running again for office. So this is a
really exciting time in American history. I think that people
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should pay attention to every little detail that they can,
because what you're voting on right now is going to
impact your children and your children's children. When you look
at the differences between not just the Republican candidates, but
Democrats and Republicans as a whole, you really do have
to focus on the larger picture. You can't just pick
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and choose what candidate you want in the primary, because
candidate quality matters. And there is a reason why Donald
Trump was able to accomplish so much in his first
term in office. He has the strength, he has the
guts to stand up to our foreign adversaries, and he's
not scared. He's not beholden to anybody. You look at
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the money, and you really follow the money in politics
is something that I've come to know and appreciate over
the last few years. You'll realize who stands with you
and who is simply a mouthpiece for the people that
are donating to their campaign. So Donald Trump is a
really really unique individual that is not beholden to anyone
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and he does speak his mind, whether you want to
hear it or not. He'll tell you the truth. He'll
tell you what's going on. And that's the kind of
leader that we really need in America right now.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Obviously, Joe Biden's age is a major concern, but it's
a major concern in part not just because of the number,
but because of what is visible, which is somebody who
is I mean, just to put it nicely, to be
very polite, not not for the job. Others would say
he's you know, senile has dementia, et cetera. But he
clearly lacks energy. That can't schedule meetings. I think it's
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they can only schedule them. They're saying between like ten
and four, no work outside of ten and four for
the president of the United States, commander in chief. It
seems like that's should be a bit of a problem
for people who actually care about the best of the country.
But of course the Democrats don't care. And you're right,
they have a communist mindset. So as long as they're
in power, the leadership doesn't really matter. I bring all
this up because you know Trump, you spend time around him,
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You've known him for years, you were there back in
twenty sixteen as well. How's his energy, his health, his vitality.
Is there any concern that anybody should have that he
is not as old as Joe Biden? Obviously, but that
his age is an issue.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Not at all, Buck And I've said this on your
show before, I'll say it again. Trump is the energizer bunny.
When we were at the White House, everyone around him
is constantly just trying to keep up. He's absolutely on
top of everything. He's healthy, he's active, he's cognitively with
it one hundred percent. And there's really no comparison to
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Joe Biden right now. So if you put the two
side by side, it's an easy call on who's going
to win. But when it comes to age and numbers,
Trump has always had a ton of energy. He always
will be honest with the American people. He's the person
really picking up the phone and calling people at six
in the morning, seven in the morning, four in the morning,
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two in the morning. I tend to question when the
man sleeps or eats or anything, because he's constantly in communication,
getting advice from different members that he trusts and communicates with.
So there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he
is up for the job, that he's got the energy
to do it, and he's absolutely the person that we
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need in charge. And I don't just say that because
I worked for him in the past. I really do
think that he's the leader for the future.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think that's always an important marker as well for
whether somebody would go work for a person again having
had them as the boss. So if Trump wins, and
you see very confident he will, which is great, it's
good to hear. I've had some other people on the
show recently who are very Republican, who voter for Trump,
who have their concerns. So it's nice to have somebody
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who has the confidence level that you do as somebody
who just doesn't want to see Joe Biden continue to
wrect the country for four more years. Would you go
back and work in the Trump White House for a
second term.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh, I would be honored to have that offer given
to me. It was absolutely a privilege and a blessing
to be able to work in the Trump White House.
Those years I will cherish for the rest of my life.
If I have the opportunity to go back, I would
be so blessed to do so. And I think that
everybody should have that mindset of being a civil servant,
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because regardless if you are a career politician or not,
that should be the mindset if you work in politics,
it's not about you, It's about the mission. It absolutely
is with Donald Trump in charge, and if we have
more people around him that keep that mindset, the country
will be a much better place. Joe Biden has I
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want to say, around eighty percent of his staff worked
for him in Obama in the past. It's some exorbitant
number of career politicians that are at the helm of
the government right now doing what destroying it. The people
that have been in this industry for decades clearly don't
know what they're doing. So if you can have people
that are passionate, people that want to devote a few
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more years of their life to try to help turn
this country around and get it in the right direction,
absolutely more power to them than I hope they do now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I do want to ask you the staff around Trump
right now in the campaign and the people. You know,
one thing that Trump has been I think very He
has honestly shared that there were some personnel mistakes in
the past, right, that there were some issues with some
of the people who had worked for him. I mean
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Scaramucci and i'm a Rosa. I mean, there are people
that have made effectively careers of going after him after
having worked from which I just think is a very
It's a very dishonorable thing to do to go work
for a White House and then try to sell books
or something afterwards by by trashing the person that you
were supposed to be helping serve the American people. But
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is is there any sense that you have that this
time around, you know, they will have a little bit
more of a refined list of who should have access
to the president. And you know, you may have seen
he's gonna be going on CNN next week in a
town hall. Does he just relish the opportunity to like
fight with the Libs? Like what to me? It seems
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like that's they're gonna they're gonna ambush him. I mean,
not like that's there'll be the millionth time they've done it.
But you know, I don't know. I guess I'm asking,
is the approach going to be the same or do
you feel like he's shaking things up a little bit,
both in terms of personnel and the way he deals
with the media, which is kind of related.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
One of the things that I have absolutely found fascinating
about Donald Trump is that he is not scared to
have a variety of advisors around him. I think that
that makes for a tremendous leader. If you have so
many different viewpoints coming your way all the time, you
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have every option if you have different viewpoints, and then
as a strong leader, you can make the right decision
when it comes to staff. We did have some leakers
last time around, but I will say that going into
a second term with this gap in the middle does
give us the opportunity to pick out the people who have,
like you said, made themselves known. They've written a book,
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or they've taken a job on a TV show where
they are daily talking about how they don't like Donald
Trump anymore. So I don't think any of them are
really hiding. They're all out there in plain sight. They
will not get a job with Donald Trump in the future.
And I won't name names. I learned from one of
my favorite women in politics, one of the smartest women
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I know, Kelly and Conway said that if you are
talking about individuals, there's no substance to that conversation. So
I won't name names. I'll move forward and say that
I think the president makes strong decisions when it comes
to his staff and his leadership. And the mainstream media
is having this frenzy around the conversation that former Trump
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staffers are leaving to go work for a pro DeSantis pack.
Need I point out that many of the members on
Trump's current team are former DeSantis staffers. So if you
want to have that conversation, it's going to be a
losing one for the media. They will come to find
out very quickly that Trump has a lot of former
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DeSantis people that are working for him, that know him
very well, that have been around DeSantis for a very
long time and have chosen not to work for him again.
So that's an interesting narrative that you're not hearing about.
It really is at the staff level, And I don't
know that it's necessarily important for the American people to
pay attention to because, like I said, Donald Trump is
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the clear frontrunner right now. DeSantis has not announced, and
so we need to focus on the reality of what
we're living in currently.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
What do you think about the CNN town hall? Is
this just I feel like it's weird because Trump brokes
CNN as an institution, Like he brokes CNN. I mean,
Don Lemon is gone now. But CNN also kind of
needs Trump because they have what do CNN exist to
do without him? So I can understand why from a
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ratings perspective and a relevant really a relevancy perspective, why
they would want to have this town hall. But I mean,
you worked in the comm side for the Trump White House, Like,
what does Trump? What is he going to want to
accomplish by doing a town hall? It's you know, I'm
not even sure who the moderator is. I assume it's
Blitzer or Tapper or one of those guys. But you know,
what's the upside for him? Like, what's the thinking behind
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this one?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well? Trump definitely brought back the ratings to TV. There's
no way around that conversation. Everybody with eyes and ears
could see that TV was declining before Trump decided to
run for office. I don't know if the platform would
even be what it is today. Network aside just the
entire media platform. I don't know what it would be
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today without Donald Trump. He really did revive the industry.
If you talk to the reporters at the White House
right now that are covering Joe Biden, they'll tell you
that they're bored. They don't have anything to talk about.
They don't get any information out of him or their
White House that's currently there. They're ignored by the staffers.
And so Donald Trump really does help the industry absolutely,
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one hundred percent. But one thing that people forget is that, yes,
he is absolutely the leader of the Republican Party, but
he also speaks to Democrats and independents very well. Might
I add, so if he's going on CNN, it's because
he and his team inside have done the polling and
the data, and they have the numbers to prove that
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if he goes on that platform, it's going to be
a benefit for him. Donald Trump is extremely calculated. He
is one of the smartest people in the world, and
there's no way that he would be doing that if
they didn't already know that it would benefit him in
the long run.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
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Well done, by the way, talking about Uh, I'm not
sucking up, by the way, Roman, I are friends. I'm
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allowed to say this to it. You did a good job.
She did a good job.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So we're talking about tech.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, So you were talking about tech jobs and everything else,
and tech jobs are being they're hemorrhaging tech jobs right now.
And the banking sector crisis is something that people feels
like aren't really paying very much.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Atten.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Here's a thesis I wone should to run with if
a Republican we're presiding over the collapse of Silicon Valley
as the primary engine of like the Nasdaq and the
stock market in terms of growth, and people just hemorrhaging
jobs out of the biggest companies. The deterioration and the
commercial real estate market which is happening in San Francisco
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and other cities in massive deterioration and the biggest bank
failure since two thousand and I feel like it could
be a bigger deal, and I feel like you were
trying to make that point on Fox.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Absolutely, when you look at the broader economic environment, people
should have their eyes open and be concerned. People should
be paying attention to this. But it's just simply not
something that the media has just i to talk about.
The Biden White House is gaslighting the American people when
they talk about this issue. Just today, they mentioned that
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the taxpayer is not going to have the burden of
saving these banks that are failing. That's not the case.
Anybody with the basic understanding of what's going to happen
right now knows that this is going to eventually fall
on the taxpayer. And we are already struggling with inflation,
we are already struggling with the current economic environment, and
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it's going to fall in those who need it most.
It's going to go to the lower class citizens that
are really going to carry the brunt of this burden.
So it's extremely unfortunate that Joe Biden hasn't found a
way to be honest with the American people because it's
causing confusion and chaos amongst the community.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Do you think the GOP on just a at R
and C level national messaging. Here's my concern. We had
a week economy going into the twenty twenty two midterms,
inflation at a forty year high, and it didn't translate
into the victories we had hoped in some you know,
very close Senate and House and gubernature. Really the Senate
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races are the ones I'm most focused on. Some gubernatorial
races too, and everyone always says, oh, it's the economies
do but well, apparently it wasn't the economy, you know
what I mean, Like, apparently there was something other stuff
going on? Or was it that there hadn't been enough
of a connection made at the national level by GOP
voices to explain what was going on? And you know,
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how how do you assess that? Like why didn't the
week economy in twenty twenty two turn into more victories?
And how could it in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, I hate to give credit to the Republicans or
to the Democrats, I'm sorry, but they really do a
good job of staying on message when they're in an
election cycle, and they did that. They really pushed these
kind of teer jerking issues like abortion in the state
where they knew that it was going to be a
tough race for Republicans and they were able to push
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that over the finish line. It's something that Joe Biden
is making a key part of his current re election campaign,
which I find to be very odd and honestly upsetting,
but it's something that is effective, and the Republicans are
going to have to learn how to sing from the
same song sheet if they want to have, you know, overall,
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widespread victories come this next election cycle, because it does matter,
It does make a difference, and it is it's local issues,
it's grassroots issues, but it is the same at the
national level when you're talking about states like Arizona where
you had such a tough time winning that Senate seat.
I mean, it's the lies that come from the left
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that people have a really hard time seeing through, especially
because the media is amplifying those lies. It's really very
tough and it has to be something that we focus
on with our message moving forward or it's not going
to have a positive outcome.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What do you think are the three places or I
shouldn't put a number on it just tell me what
comes to mind when I said the places where Trump
can make gains with independent voters in the upcoming election
based on the issues as they stand right now. I know,
you know, we could be at warwith China and you
know the future, who knows, right, but based on what
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we're seeing right now, I think it's just helpful for
people to know what the template will be to win
over those in those independents in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania,
and you know the handful of states that matter.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, it really is going to come down to the issues.
And I think that you'll see if you pay attention
to the state and local politics. There's been a large
turnover on attorney generals, on state council even something as
small as school board members have been flipping to Republicans,
vocal Republicans throughout the country. So I think those things
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are really going to make a difference when it comes
to having a good ground starting point for presidential contender
for President Trump when he is in the general election
across the country. But he had some very strong numbers
when he ran in twenty sixteen, and I think you're
going to see that come back mainly because Joe Biden
has shown the American people just in a matter of
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over two years that they can't get the job done,
that they cannot do anything that is going to help
your family at the kitchen table, and those things make
a difference to the voter. The left again really kind
of pulling on those lies that they talked about when
they're speaking to suburban women. But there's a large part
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of the population right now that's paying attention, and it's
going to be the young voters. It's people our age buck,
it's gen Z, it's millennials, and so we really do
need to do a good job at paying attention to
that section of the voter population because if we don't,
it's going to be tough to pull out a win.
You know, this isn't your grandfather's political party anymore. It's
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not your grandfather's economy anymore. It's a totally different ballgame,
and we have to get with the times if we're
going to be successful.
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and a Californian about Gavin, about Gavin Newsom, to close
us out here in just a second aroma. But yeah, yeah, yeah, well,
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good about California that we could talk about right, so
many nice things. The politics, though awful. Gavin Newsom is
the governor. There are those out there who make the
case that Gavin Newsom could be either part of a
(31:10):
plan to push Biden aside or if Biden, you know,
he's eighty two years old, can make it through to
the election. Obviously there's Kamala Harris, but maybe they want
somebody that think could actually win in a general election.
Ergo Gavin Newsom. Do you think Gavin nuw First of all,
do you think Gavin Newsom wants to be president? And
does that thought terrify you? Because you think it's a possibility.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You're reading my mind. It's absolutely terrifying. He absolutely wants
to be president. I don't know that the man has
a single bone in his body that wouldn't do something
to make himself more famous and rich, and running for
presidential election would certainly put more money in his pocket
and give him a larger platform. So, yes, he wants
to run for president. Do I think that he is
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going to win. No? Do I think that he should run. No?
Do I think that he should resign? Yes? I hate him.
He's terrible and I literally never talk about that about anybody,
but he's absolutely doing everything he can to hurt the
American people, and the people in California deserve better. I
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can't tell you how many family and friends have left
the state of California because they just can't stand his
policies anymore. It's terrible, and he's grooming the next generation
of politicians as well. We had some really terrible redistricting
done in California, and my home district in Orange County
ended up flipping blue again. We have Katie Porter as
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our representative right now, which makes absolutely no sense. But
one thing that I will point out is I don't
think the Left has rules for themselves anymore when it
comes to respecting the current leadership in their teams. So
Katie Porter, who is very very close with Gavinusom and
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Nancy Pelosi, announced just seventy two hours after she became
a congresswoman that she's running for Senate. There's no open
seat in California, So how disrespectful of her to her
current sitting senator to say that she's going to run
for her seat when Fine Stine hasn't even resigned yet.
So what's going on over there is certainly tumultuous. It
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doesn't make any sense for them as a party. I
think it's an opportunity for us to kind of play
with the turmoil and gain some seats because of that.
I'm very excited that a friend of mine, Max foroc
dot Com, has just announced that he's running for Congress.
He's already raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
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in his first week running, all small money, all small donors.
So I think that there really is excitement in the
state of California to gain some of that freedom back,
to gain some of that America First policy in the state.
And I don't know that it's necessarily going to happen overnight.
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But I have this conversation with Larry Caudlow often, and
he makes fun of me for it because I have
a bleeding heart for California. But I do think that
we should not give up on the state. I think
that we need to pay more attention as a party
as Republicans to California because there is a lot of
ground we can cover there if we focus on certain areas.
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There's a lot of money there. We know that as
a party, we get a lot of our donor dollars
from the state of California alone. Both parties do, but
the Republicans do as well. So when people call it
a blue state, they're really not paying attention. They're just
listening to the megaphone that's coming from San Francisco and
Los Angeles and ignoring the farmland in between. You know,
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Kevin McCarthy is our speaker from California, and he's doing
a really amazing job helping the American people see what
Joe Biden is doing and also making progress when it
comes to protecting our rights and our values as a
country's So if we have more of that at the
local level. It will only help the party as a whole.
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And it really wasn't that long ago that Florida was
considered kind of a purple blue state. Now look at it.
I really think that California could be the same way.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Roma, Where should folks go to follow your work and
see more of your commentary At Roma.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Dravi On Twitter and Instagram. You can find everything that
I do. I posted all there.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Fantastic Roma, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Thanks Bet, great to be on with you.
Welcome back everybody to the Buck Sexton Show, and we
have a very exciting guest. We always have a very
exciting guests, but particularly exciting this time. Roma de Ravi
is with us. She worked on the Trump twenty sixteen
victorious presidential campaign. She also worked in the Trump White
House and now does political communications and strategy of her own. Roma,
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good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thanks for joining, of course, it's great to be with you. Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
All right, let's start the big thing right now? Is
It's interesting because there's a couple levels to this debates,
right Trump has said, and I want you to tackle
these for me separately. Trump has said that he may
not even be willing to debate if he's like, really
far ahead of the competition, which is interesting. And then
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beyond that, I wonder if how Biden will react to
this as well. Will Biden if Trump is a nominee,
debate him. But let's take these in order. Trump in
the primaries, what's his position right now? What do you
think of this possibility of debates not happening?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, look, I think there's a whole lot that you
have to tackle in that For starters, Trump doesn't really
have any serious opponents. At this time, everybody is talking
about Ronda Santas. But as of April first, today, he
has not announced that he's running for president. So at
this point, everybody else who is running against him has
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less than five percent, not even double digits in the
polls right now. So Trump is absolutely leading. His numbers
are going up every single day. I have no doubt
in my mind that he is going to be the
front runner for the Republican Party. So if he's saying
he doesn't want to do it, maybe he's saying it's
a waste of time because there's no one else to
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really talk to. But I mean, it's only spring. The
debates don't start until August, right, we only know about
a couple of them right now. There's a whole slew
of them that are going to be announced. Really, anything
can happen. I wouldn't go and make a bet just
yet that he's not going to be on that debate stage.
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It would probably be a losing bet. I would go
ahead and assume that he will be up there, mainly
because he's so good at it. I think it would
be a loss to him to not be up there.
So many people have fond memories of President Trump up
on the debate stage making everybody else look like idiots,
I might add, So it really is up to him
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if he wants to do it or not. But I
think it's too early to say if it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you have some just either anecdote or data you
can share because you're working on the twenty sixteen campaign.
Klay and I were just talking with this on radio
or thinking about major debate victories in presidential debates, right
and we were talking about Trump twenty sixteen. Actually the
first debate in twenty twelve between Romney and Obama, which
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I think people forget, but that was a total, you know,
just wipe out of Obama by mid Romney, which right
now to say that is almost but if anyone goes
back and watches it, they'll remember. But in twenty sixteen
Trump and Hillary. Did you see a bump after that?
Because one of the things that comes up now is
do debates really move the needle in your experience in
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twenty sixteen, did the debates move the needle for Trump
against Hillary? Or was it the rest of the campaign
and the debates were kind of an afterthought?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, the debates are a really interesting environment because you
tackle these very serious policy issues, and if you have
a good person running the debates, they'll go through every
single one. They will talk about everything from the economy
to foreign policy, and they will press the people that
are on that stage. At the same time, debates do
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offer a platform that's a little bit less stagnant, right,
so it's very fluid. Everybody that's up there has a
chance to really show who they are to the American people.
Donald Trump did a great job of doing that. He
knew his facts, he knew his stuff. He went up
there and he made really strong arguments on the policy
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side of things, and he took time to actually make
a few jabs at Hillary that, in my opinion, really
helped the American people realize he's just like them. He
knows how to throw a punch, he knows how to
crack a joke. It makes him seem more real to
the American people. So I think the debate stage is
a really interesting environment. I would love to see him
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up there. I do think it helps him as a
candidate when talking to people like Joe Biden, right, So
it really the comparing contrast. You can only believe your
own eyes at that point rather than listening to the
left media and whatever lies they're telling you. If you're
looking at Donald Trump standing next to Joe Biden, the
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strength is right there in front of your eyes, and
the weakness is standing next to it in the current president.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Do you think I mean, we all remember the Heiden
Biden twenty twenty campaign right where it's like he wasn't
oh because of COVID and he had a double mask
and all that stuff that he didn't really do a
whole lot of campaigning. But it feels like it would
be a whole nother level of Hyde Hide and Biden
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if he refused to debate Trump as the Republican nominee.
Do you think, I mean, from just a comm's perspective,
do you think that's a serious that's a serious possibility,
because it seems like people are already raising that maybe preemptively,
Like you know, Joe Biden, he's not even go to
platform Trump. That's what I've been hearing by debating.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Him right well, Joe Biden had a really interesting environment,
like you mentioned when he ran last time. Not only
was it COVID, but he had the Obama administration as
his backdrop for the campaign. He had Obama's so called
wins from the administration and that he could run on.
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But the Biden administration has had failure after failure after failure,
both regionally and on the national stage. So this time around,
he's going to have a really tough time hiding Biden,
Hide and Biden right, like we say in the basement,
because he does have to kind of go out and
take charge and try to make a case to the
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American people that he's done a good job when the
reality is we know that there's just a bunch of
negatives that are on his call sheet. So it's really
going to be tough for him to hide this time.
But I will say that the Democrats, they're kind of
the party of staying in line, right. They're really not
the party of freedom, that is the Republican party. That
is why we as a party have a tough time
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speaking from the same song sheet, whereas the Democrats have
no problem reading the exact same phrase over and over again.
It's the socialist mindsets, the communist mindset, it's the Democrat mindset.
Unfortunately nowadays it is so they do a very good
job at staying in line. I don't think Joe Biden
is the one calling the shots right now. I think
somebody will tell him whether he's going to debate and
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whether or not he's going to be out campaigning. But
the left media is really who is pushing the narrative
for him, so they have an advantage the left. If
he does stay quiet, then all the Americans have to
go off of is what the mainstream media is telling them,
which is a bunch of lies unfortunately. So I really
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am urging friends, family, neighbors, everybody to pay attention to
as much digital content as they can moving forward, outlets
like yours buck that are streaming things that are not
just on their TV on cable news, because they need
to find a variety of content if they're really going
to get the facts moving forward.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Rom I want to come back and ask you to
just make the case to everybody who's listening or watching
about why. I mean, you were there in twenty sixteen,
and I think the big thing for a lot of
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terms of the result or is this going to be
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who maybe they are Nicky Haley people, maybe they're vivek
maybe they're Ron DeSantis, and they just worry that Trump
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won't be able to They love Trump, they voted for Trump,
but they think that Trump won't be able to get
it done in twenty twenty four. What would be your
pitch to them? How can you help sell those people
on this is going to be a victory for the
GOP with Donald Trump at the helm.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, I think if they're being honest with themselves, they
know who is going to be able to win this election,
and it's Donald Trump. If you talk to anybody, even
the people that have concerns, they still love him. Like
you said, they still know that he's the winner that
they all know and love. And so I really do
think that if you focus on the facts and the policy,
he's the only person that can get it done. The
(10:11):
Democrat process is a beautiful thing. I'm really excited to
see a wide pool of candidates jump into this thing.
We've never been in this position before in America in
the modern day, to have a former president in an
unconsecutive term running again for office. So this is a
really exciting time in American history. I think that people
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should pay attention to every little detail that they can,
because what you're voting on right now is going to
impact your children and your children's children. When you look
at the differences between not just the Republican candidates, but
Democrats and Republicans as a whole, you really do have
to focus on the larger picture. You can't just pick
(10:53):
and choose what candidate you want in the primary, because
candidate quality matters. And there is a reason why Donald
Trump was able to accomplish so much in his first
term in office. He has the strength, he has the
guts to stand up to our foreign adversaries, and he's
not scared. He's not beholden to anybody. You look at
(11:14):
the money, and you really follow the money in politics
is something that I've come to know and appreciate over
the last few years. You'll realize who stands with you
and who is simply a mouthpiece for the people that
are donating to their campaign. So Donald Trump is a
really really unique individual that is not beholden to anyone
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and he does speak his mind, whether you want to
hear it or not. He'll tell you the truth. He'll
tell you what's going on. And that's the kind of
leader that we really need in America right now.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Obviously, Joe Biden's age is a major concern, but it's
a major concern in part not just because of the number,
but because of what is visible, which is somebody who
is I mean, just to put it nicely, to be
very polite, not not for the job. Others would say
he's you know, senile has dementia, et cetera. But he
clearly lacks energy. That can't schedule meetings. I think it's
(12:08):
they can only schedule them. They're saying between like ten
and four, no work outside of ten and four for
the president of the United States, commander in chief. It
seems like that's should be a bit of a problem
for people who actually care about the best of the country.
But of course the Democrats don't care. And you're right,
they have a communist mindset. So as long as they're
in power, the leadership doesn't really matter. I bring all
this up because you know Trump, you spend time around him,
(12:30):
You've known him for years, you were there back in
twenty sixteen as well. How's his energy, his health, his vitality.
Is there any concern that anybody should have that he
is not as old as Joe Biden? Obviously, but that
his age is an issue.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Not at all, Buck And I've said this on your
show before, I'll say it again. Trump is the energizer bunny.
When we were at the White House, everyone around him
is constantly just trying to keep up. He's absolutely on
top of everything. He's healthy, he's active, he's cognitively with
it one hundred percent. And there's really no comparison to
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Joe Biden right now. So if you put the two
side by side, it's an easy call on who's going
to win. But when it comes to age and numbers,
Trump has always had a ton of energy. He always
will be honest with the American people. He's the person
really picking up the phone and calling people at six
in the morning, seven in the morning, four in the morning,
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two in the morning. I tend to question when the
man sleeps or eats or anything, because he's constantly in communication,
getting advice from different members that he trusts and communicates with.
So there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he
is up for the job, that he's got the energy
to do it, and he's absolutely the person that we
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need in charge. And I don't just say that because
I worked for him in the past. I really do
think that he's the leader for the future.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think that's always an important marker as well for
whether somebody would go work for a person again having
had them as the boss. So if Trump wins, and
you see very confident he will, which is great, it's
good to hear. I've had some other people on the
show recently who are very Republican, who voter for Trump,
who have their concerns. So it's nice to have somebody
(14:20):
who has the confidence level that you do as somebody
who just doesn't want to see Joe Biden continue to
wrect the country for four more years. Would you go
back and work in the Trump White House for a
second term.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh, I would be honored to have that offer given
to me. It was absolutely a privilege and a blessing
to be able to work in the Trump White House.
Those years I will cherish for the rest of my life.
If I have the opportunity to go back, I would
be so blessed to do so. And I think that
everybody should have that mindset of being a civil servant,
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because regardless if you are a career politician or not,
that should be the mindset if you work in politics,
it's not about you, It's about the mission. It absolutely
is with Donald Trump in charge, and if we have
more people around him that keep that mindset, the country
will be a much better place. Joe Biden has I
(15:17):
want to say, around eighty percent of his staff worked
for him in Obama in the past. It's some exorbitant
number of career politicians that are at the helm of
the government right now doing what destroying it. The people
that have been in this industry for decades clearly don't
know what they're doing. So if you can have people
that are passionate, people that want to devote a few
(15:39):
more years of their life to try to help turn
this country around and get it in the right direction,
absolutely more power to them than I hope they do now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I do want to ask you the staff around Trump
right now in the campaign and the people. You know,
one thing that Trump has been I think very He
has honestly shared that there were some personnel mistakes in
the past, right, that there were some issues with some
of the people who had worked for him. I mean
(16:10):
Scaramucci and i'm a Rosa. I mean, there are people
that have made effectively careers of going after him after
having worked from which I just think is a very
It's a very dishonorable thing to do to go work
for a White House and then try to sell books
or something afterwards by by trashing the person that you
were supposed to be helping serve the American people. But
(16:31):
is is there any sense that you have that this
time around, you know, they will have a little bit
more of a refined list of who should have access
to the president. And you know, you may have seen
he's gonna be going on CNN next week in a
town hall. Does he just relish the opportunity to like
fight with the Libs? Like what to me? It seems
(16:52):
like that's they're gonna they're gonna ambush him. I mean,
not like that's there'll be the millionth time they've done it.
But you know, I don't know. I guess I'm asking,
is the approach going to be the same or do
you feel like he's shaking things up a little bit,
both in terms of personnel and the way he deals
with the media, which is kind of related.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
One of the things that I have absolutely found fascinating
about Donald Trump is that he is not scared to
have a variety of advisors around him. I think that
that makes for a tremendous leader. If you have so
many different viewpoints coming your way all the time, you
(17:31):
have every option if you have different viewpoints, and then
as a strong leader, you can make the right decision
when it comes to staff. We did have some leakers
last time around, but I will say that going into
a second term with this gap in the middle does
give us the opportunity to pick out the people who have,
like you said, made themselves known. They've written a book,
(17:54):
or they've taken a job on a TV show where
they are daily talking about how they don't like Donald
Trump anymore. So I don't think any of them are
really hiding. They're all out there in plain sight. They
will not get a job with Donald Trump in the future.
And I won't name names. I learned from one of
my favorite women in politics, one of the smartest women
(18:16):
I know, Kelly and Conway said that if you are
talking about individuals, there's no substance to that conversation. So
I won't name names. I'll move forward and say that
I think the president makes strong decisions when it comes
to his staff and his leadership. And the mainstream media
is having this frenzy around the conversation that former Trump
(18:36):
staffers are leaving to go work for a pro DeSantis pack.
Need I point out that many of the members on
Trump's current team are former DeSantis staffers. So if you
want to have that conversation, it's going to be a
losing one for the media. They will come to find
out very quickly that Trump has a lot of former
(18:58):
DeSantis people that are working for him, that know him
very well, that have been around DeSantis for a very
long time and have chosen not to work for him again.
So that's an interesting narrative that you're not hearing about.
It really is at the staff level, And I don't
know that it's necessarily important for the American people to
pay attention to because, like I said, Donald Trump is
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the clear frontrunner right now. DeSantis has not announced, and
so we need to focus on the reality of what
we're living in currently.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
What do you think about the CNN town hall? Is
this just I feel like it's weird because Trump brokes
CNN as an institution, Like he brokes CNN. I mean,
Don Lemon is gone now. But CNN also kind of
needs Trump because they have what do CNN exist to
do without him? So I can understand why from a
(19:47):
ratings perspective and a relevant really a relevancy perspective, why
they would want to have this town hall. But I mean,
you worked in the comm side for the Trump White House, Like,
what does Trump? What is he going to want to
accomplish by doing a town hall? It's you know, I'm
not even sure who the moderator is. I assume it's
Blitzer or Tapper or one of those guys. But you know,
what's the upside for him? Like, what's the thinking behind
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this one?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well? Trump definitely brought back the ratings to TV. There's
no way around that conversation. Everybody with eyes and ears
could see that TV was declining before Trump decided to
run for office. I don't know if the platform would
even be what it is today. Network aside just the
entire media platform. I don't know what it would be
(20:33):
today without Donald Trump. He really did revive the industry.
If you talk to the reporters at the White House
right now that are covering Joe Biden, they'll tell you
that they're bored. They don't have anything to talk about.
They don't get any information out of him or their
White House that's currently there. They're ignored by the staffers.
And so Donald Trump really does help the industry absolutely,
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one hundred percent. But one thing that people forget is that, yes,
he is absolutely the leader of the Republican Party, but
he also speaks to Democrats and independents very well. Might
I add, so if he's going on CNN, it's because
he and his team inside have done the polling and
the data, and they have the numbers to prove that
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if he goes on that platform, it's going to be
a benefit for him. Donald Trump is extremely calculated. He
is one of the smartest people in the world, and
there's no way that he would be doing that if
they didn't already know that it would benefit him in
the long run.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
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Well done, by the way, talking about Uh, I'm not
sucking up, by the way, Roman, I are friends. I'm
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allowed to say this to it. You did a good job.
She did a good job.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So we're talking about tech.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, So you were talking about tech jobs and everything else,
and tech jobs are being they're hemorrhaging tech jobs right now.
And the banking sector crisis is something that people feels
like aren't really paying very much.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Atten.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Here's a thesis I wone should to run with if
a Republican we're presiding over the collapse of Silicon Valley
as the primary engine of like the Nasdaq and the
stock market in terms of growth, and people just hemorrhaging
jobs out of the biggest companies. The deterioration and the
commercial real estate market which is happening in San Francisco
(23:39):
and other cities in massive deterioration and the biggest bank
failure since two thousand and I feel like it could
be a bigger deal, and I feel like you were
trying to make that point on Fox.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Absolutely, when you look at the broader economic environment, people
should have their eyes open and be concerned. People should
be paying attention to this. But it's just simply not
something that the media has just i to talk about.
The Biden White House is gaslighting the American people when
they talk about this issue. Just today, they mentioned that
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the taxpayer is not going to have the burden of
saving these banks that are failing. That's not the case.
Anybody with the basic understanding of what's going to happen
right now knows that this is going to eventually fall
on the taxpayer. And we are already struggling with inflation,
we are already struggling with the current economic environment, and
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it's going to fall in those who need it most.
It's going to go to the lower class citizens that
are really going to carry the brunt of this burden.
So it's extremely unfortunate that Joe Biden hasn't found a
way to be honest with the American people because it's
causing confusion and chaos amongst the community.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Do you think the GOP on just a at R
and C level national messaging. Here's my concern. We had
a week economy going into the twenty twenty two midterms,
inflation at a forty year high, and it didn't translate
into the victories we had hoped in some you know,
very close Senate and House and gubernature. Really the Senate
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races are the ones I'm most focused on. Some gubernatorial
races too, and everyone always says, oh, it's the economies
do but well, apparently it wasn't the economy, you know
what I mean, Like, apparently there was something other stuff
going on? Or was it that there hadn't been enough
of a connection made at the national level by GOP
voices to explain what was going on? And you know,
(25:34):
how how do you assess that? Like why didn't the
week economy in twenty twenty two turn into more victories?
And how could it in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, I hate to give credit to the Republicans or
to the Democrats, I'm sorry, but they really do a
good job of staying on message when they're in an
election cycle, and they did that. They really pushed these
kind of teer jerking issues like abortion in the state
where they knew that it was going to be a
tough race for Republicans and they were able to push
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that over the finish line. It's something that Joe Biden
is making a key part of his current re election campaign,
which I find to be very odd and honestly upsetting,
but it's something that is effective, and the Republicans are
going to have to learn how to sing from the
same song sheet if they want to have, you know, overall,
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widespread victories come this next election cycle, because it does matter,
It does make a difference, and it is it's local issues,
it's grassroots issues, but it is the same at the
national level when you're talking about states like Arizona where
you had such a tough time winning that Senate seat.
I mean, it's the lies that come from the left
(26:51):
that people have a really hard time seeing through, especially
because the media is amplifying those lies. It's really very
tough and it has to be something that we focus
on with our message moving forward or it's not going
to have a positive outcome.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What do you think are the three places or I
shouldn't put a number on it just tell me what
comes to mind when I said the places where Trump
can make gains with independent voters in the upcoming election
based on the issues as they stand right now. I know,
you know, we could be at warwith China and you
know the future, who knows, right, but based on what
(27:30):
we're seeing right now, I think it's just helpful for
people to know what the template will be to win
over those in those independents in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania,
and you know the handful of states that matter.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, it really is going to come down to the issues.
And I think that you'll see if you pay attention
to the state and local politics. There's been a large
turnover on attorney generals, on state council even something as
small as school board members have been flipping to Republicans,
vocal Republicans throughout the country. So I think those things
(28:08):
are really going to make a difference when it comes
to having a good ground starting point for presidential contender
for President Trump when he is in the general election
across the country. But he had some very strong numbers
when he ran in twenty sixteen, and I think you're
going to see that come back mainly because Joe Biden
has shown the American people just in a matter of
(28:30):
over two years that they can't get the job done,
that they cannot do anything that is going to help
your family at the kitchen table, and those things make
a difference to the voter. The left again really kind
of pulling on those lies that they talked about when
they're speaking to suburban women. But there's a large part
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of the population right now that's paying attention, and it's
going to be the young voters. It's people our age buck,
it's gen Z, it's millennials, and so we really do
need to do a good job at paying attention to
that section of the voter population because if we don't,
it's going to be tough to pull out a win.
You know, this isn't your grandfather's political party anymore. It's
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not your grandfather's economy anymore. It's a totally different ballgame,
and we have to get with the times if we're
going to be successful.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I want to ask you, as a Californian comm's person
and a Californian about Gavin, about Gavin Newsom, to close
us out here in just a second aroma. But yeah, yeah, yeah, well,
I'll give you an opportunity to tee off on things
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good about California that we could talk about right, so
many nice things. The politics, though awful. Gavin Newsom is
the governor. There are those out there who make the
case that Gavin Newsom could be either part of a
(31:10):
plan to push Biden aside or if Biden, you know,
he's eighty two years old, can make it through to
the election. Obviously there's Kamala Harris, but maybe they want
somebody that think could actually win in a general election.
Ergo Gavin Newsom. Do you think Gavin nuw First of all,
do you think Gavin Newsom wants to be president? And
does that thought terrify you? Because you think it's a possibility.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You're reading my mind. It's absolutely terrifying. He absolutely wants
to be president. I don't know that the man has
a single bone in his body that wouldn't do something
to make himself more famous and rich, and running for
presidential election would certainly put more money in his pocket
and give him a larger platform. So, yes, he wants
to run for president. Do I think that he is
(31:57):
going to win. No? Do I think that he should run. No?
Do I think that he should resign? Yes? I hate him.
He's terrible and I literally never talk about that about anybody,
but he's absolutely doing everything he can to hurt the
American people, and the people in California deserve better. I
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can't tell you how many family and friends have left
the state of California because they just can't stand his
policies anymore. It's terrible, and he's grooming the next generation
of politicians as well. We had some really terrible redistricting
done in California, and my home district in Orange County
ended up flipping blue again. We have Katie Porter as
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our representative right now, which makes absolutely no sense. But
one thing that I will point out is I don't
think the Left has rules for themselves anymore when it
comes to respecting the current leadership in their teams. So
Katie Porter, who is very very close with Gavinusom and
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Nancy Pelosi, announced just seventy two hours after she became
a congresswoman that she's running for Senate. There's no open
seat in California, So how disrespectful of her to her
current sitting senator to say that she's going to run
for her seat when Fine Stine hasn't even resigned yet.
So what's going on over there is certainly tumultuous. It
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doesn't make any sense for them as a party. I
think it's an opportunity for us to kind of play
with the turmoil and gain some seats because of that.
I'm very excited that a friend of mine, Max foroc
dot Com, has just announced that he's running for Congress.
He's already raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
(33:42):
in his first week running, all small money, all small donors.
So I think that there really is excitement in the
state of California to gain some of that freedom back,
to gain some of that America First policy in the state.
And I don't know that it's necessarily going to happen overnight.
(34:03):
But I have this conversation with Larry Caudlow often, and
he makes fun of me for it because I have
a bleeding heart for California. But I do think that
we should not give up on the state. I think
that we need to pay more attention as a party
as Republicans to California because there is a lot of
ground we can cover there if we focus on certain areas.
(34:24):
There's a lot of money there. We know that as
a party, we get a lot of our donor dollars
from the state of California alone. Both parties do, but
the Republicans do as well. So when people call it
a blue state, they're really not paying attention. They're just
listening to the megaphone that's coming from San Francisco and
Los Angeles and ignoring the farmland in between. You know,
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Kevin McCarthy is our speaker from California, and he's doing
a really amazing job helping the American people see what
Joe Biden is doing and also making progress when it
comes to protecting our rights and our values as a
country's So if we have more of that at the
local level. It will only help the party as a whole.
(35:06):
And it really wasn't that long ago that Florida was
considered kind of a purple blue state. Now look at it.
I really think that California could be the same way.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Roma, Where should folks go to follow your work and
see more of your commentary At Roma.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Dravi On Twitter and Instagram. You can find everything that
I do. I posted all there.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Fantastic Roma, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Thanks Bet, great to be on with you.
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