June 4, 2023 • 27 mins
A special Animal Thunderdome edition of Sunday Hang!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bold reverence and occasionally random The Sunday hang with Playing
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It starts now, way, do we still have the Animal
Thunderdome intro somewhere?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Because I got a question for you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Do we do we have that one team Animal Thunderdome
just taking a quick moment here on a Friday. If
we do, let me know, I'll hit hit it for everybody.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Go for it, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm just glad I was there, boys and girls.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I thought he thought I was like this ginormous piece
of chicken dion times here. This is Animal Thunderdome. LD
do all right, So Claire, we mentioned this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This Florida man twenty three years old, he got his
arm bitten off by a ten foot alligator because he
went to relieve himself at a pot while he was
at a bar where the line was too long. He
fell in the water. He was drunk. And we actually
have some audio of the guy play it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I lose my life, lost an arm.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So he's got a pretty good attitude about the situation
that he just lost an arm to an alligator. And
I put out this pole and I was wondering what
your answer would be. The worst way Now he's he's fine.
He lost I mean, he lost an arm, but he's
gonna be okay. The worst way to to if you
were gonna, if you were gonna bite it, you know
what I mean, if you're gonna, if you're at the end, Shark, crocodile, bear, lion.
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I put out the pole, Which one do you go with?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
All right, I'm gonna give.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You my answer, but we've got to come back, and
I've got to read you the quotes from this guy.
I know we played that one little short segment, so
just so you guys know, I know it's a Memorial
Day weekend. A lot of you are gonna be out
at the beach, maybe a lot of you traveling around
in Florida. This guy lost his arm because he said
it was too crowded by the bathroom line, so he
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went and decided to pee by a lake. And when
I play, when I read some of these quotes for you,
when you come back, you're gonna be like, this is
not this I'm reading from the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
These quotes are unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Don't give us the answer yet, but I want to
think about this one worst way to go shark, crocodile bear, lieon,
Clay will tell us and we have pole results.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Buck and I were texting this story back and forth
because it was just so crazy. This guy, this Florida guy.
I want everybody to be careful out there, especially if
you're going down to Florida for the holidays. Here this guy,
Jordan Rivera, said the line was too long at the bathroom,
so he decided to go down by the lake to
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go pee. And here's his quotes. These are real quotes.
I just a little lake, so I was trying to
go over there and take a little pee. Say, he
didn't realize how big the pond actually was.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
This is a quote.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Something happened where I either tripped or the ground below
me kind of just went down, and I ended up
in the water. And that's literally the last thing I remember. Okay, Buck,
I don't know about you, but I'm gonna bet that
this guy was pretty drunk. Because when you say something
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happened where I either tripped or the ground below me
kind of went down and I ended up in the water,
it's bad enough to end up in the water. He
ended up in the water with a ten foot alligator
that took his arm.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Here's a quote.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I looked over and I saw my arm the way
it was, and I was like, whoa. It was the
craziest thing. It was almost like out of a movie.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
And then we had the quote where he says I
didn't lose my life. He says they don't even serve food.
He said he wanted this is the other thing. He said,
there's gossip that he decided he was going to go
hand feet an alligator, and he said he wants to
dispel that rumor. They don't even serve food at the bar.
Couldn't have even served the gator food. It's completely not true.
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And he said again, these guys saved his life. Another
amazing quote. The first thing I would do is shake
the man's hand, said Rivera, perhaps forgetting that he lost
the arm. Said it feels like it's kind of there. Anyway,
angel saved him. The U asked this question wrapped on
him to stop the bleeding, to try, yeah, to try
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to to save this arm. All right, So I would say,
of all the things that could happen when you leave
and go outside, Buck full disclosure. Have you ever left
a crowded bar because you couldn't get to the bathroom
and gone outside to pee?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The fifth on this mat, I will just will, I
will admit to it.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the
bathroom before gone outside.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This guy was just gonna go pee in the pee
in the lake, he says.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Next thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and
loses his arm. That is the worst result of the
bar line being too too long for the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I gave you the options if you're meeting your
maker because shark, crocodile, bear, or lion attack.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I have data to back this up.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think I think it's crocodile, and I'll tell you
why my worst I think crocodile would be the worst.
I know, alligator, crocodile, this is an allex but you
know this is a large reptile that eats you. I'll
tell you my theory on why it's the worst. Two
analysis points. One in the water. I think not only
would you be likely to be attacked by an alligator
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or crocodile, you would know that you were being eaten,
ripped to pieces. But I also think the likelihood is
you probably would drown, So drowning is supposedly an.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Awful way to go. They do the death role, that's right.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, so I think you combine getting killed by a
live animal and also drowning, which sounds like the worst
possible way to go other than like getting burned to
death or something, which I will.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Tell you it was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It was shocking to see there are this little pole,
little Friday pole. There are thousands of people that weighed
in four thousand plus votes. Crocodile came in with the
worst way to think in the animal kingdom at least
of these options. I wanted to throw hippopotamus on there
because they're actually incredibly dangerous and I just feel like
no one, you know, going by a hippo would be
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like getting eaten by a panda bear, Like we still
think of them as cute even though they're actually quite dangerous.
But it was fascinating to read the analysis that people
came up with Clay. In the comments, people went deep
on the like various. All of a sudden, there must
be a lot of ems folks that are following me
on Twitter because they're talking about the difference in how
but everyone was like, lion, No big deal. Lions are
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apparently they're just like, ah, they grab you by the
necker out like a light, no problem. I think they
would end you quickly. Yeah, they say end quickly. Shark,
you're talking massive blood lost trauma. That probably also pretty
fast all things considered. Although just being in the water,
which you also have with the crocodile very scary. Some
of the folks that wait him with the bear one.
The bear one was actually way worse than I thought
it would because apparently bears they kind of maul slowly.
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So anyway, people went very deep into the comments here.
Crocodile was the winner of the worst A bad way
to go?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
What do you think happened to this guy? Do you
think he was just My theory would be he was
super drunk, super drunk, passed out. And then the allegant
because I don't believe the alligator was there like coming
out of the water, like I think he probably passed
out at the water's edge was where alligators their ambush hunters.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's where they do it. And and then you know
it was, you know, it just went for it. I
don't know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Mean that is I mean again when he says, like
I was standing by the water, and I bet he
started to have a little bit of the spins. Maybe
he had a lot of drinks and then he just
went in the water. He's like he didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I asked, carry this question really, and as a as
a transplanted New Yorker, it's just I feel like people
that live in these areas would never think about this.
So the the the habitat of the American alligator goes
up into it's obviously Florida's like you know, Grand Central
for alligators, right, and then you go up and uh
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and you see it. Georgia plenty of alligators. Parts of
eastern Texas. There are all of southeastern Texas alligators. But
right around, like the Carolinas, it starts to stop right
like U, the range slows down. But I asked, this
is a real question. We probably have an there must
be a zone where you think, oh, I'll just go
swimming in my lake house because there's like there's no
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gators up here. But actually, you know, I mean I
think like like maybe part of South Carolina or part
of North Carolina, Like there have to be places where
you think you're in the safe zone and you're gonna
go splashing around in the pond, but maybe you've got
a gator that's you know, got a fleece, got a
vest on or something.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's a great point.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,
you'll be out on your boat, you'll be out jet skiing,
you'll be out. They're not as afraid of alligators as
I would say a lot of people elsewhere are. And
the other aspect of this is that that is such
a good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,
has alleg I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Say, I just checked folks in Tennessee. You're you think
you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's home state. There
are alligators in Tennessee, but not many. There are now
some around Memphis. And if you're in North Alabama, uh,
I believe like around the Huntsville area where the Tennessee River,
there's there's certain places where there are a few alligators there.
(09:40):
It definitely seems unfair that you would, you know, go
jump in a lake in Memphis and suddenly.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
From alligator.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But you know, I mean there was a there was one.
I mean, it's total, like, the odds of this are
one in a million. You know, there was a great white,
great white shark attack, a fatal one up off the
Eye Islands of Maine that happened a few years ago.
So there's sometimes things, crazy things happen.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
There's a great shark attack book about I think it
was like in the nineteen twenties, and it's part of
what inspired Jaws.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
A great Matawan Creek I know. Oh dude, I could see.
We can talking with Montawan Creek all the time. Three
attacks in a few days. They think it was a
bull shark nineteen eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Maybe you think it was.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
This is like way off the coast, right, somebody seven
miles inland, seven miles inland. Yousually jump into a freshwater
creek and you get killed by a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Nineteen sixteen off in the Jersey shore, there was a
brackish creek connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
That's a great book. What's the name of the book
that they wrote about this. They think it was one
shark that killed tons of people because at the time,
and it goes all into the history.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Close to shore, the terrifying shark attacks of nineteen sixteen,
is that the one I read.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I may be the book I read, a fantastic one
about this particular shark attack where they think it was one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There's one called I Survived the Shark Attack. Well that's
for kids.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Oh and I Survived books are actually my boys really
liked the I Survived Shark Attack books. But if you
want one to scare you, as we're coming in now
to the holiday season with Memorial Day weekend and people
typically going out to the beaches for the first time,
I'll look up during commercial break and see if I
can find the exact title of that book. But it
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is really well done because it dives into buck For
a long time, people didn't know whether sharks were dangerous, right,
Like they didn't have like a good sense for because
remember it wasn't that long ago. People didn't used to
go into the ocean as leisure, right, Like, oh, you're
just going to go swim in the ocean, Like that
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wasn't something that was very popular in the seventeen hundreds
and the eighteen hundreds and everything else. It's only the
beach as leisure that has really kind of taken off
in the last hundred years.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In many ways, yes.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
So it's a fascinating kind of portrayal about the way
that Americans decide to spend their time and what the
dangers are associated with it.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So put it on the radar. I'll look it up.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'll share it with you if you want a fun
book that will also terrify you. Because I've been arguing
for a while, Buck, I think it's true the most
influential movie ever made in terms of changing everybody's behavior
was Jaws, because I don't think there's a single one
of you out there that will go into the water
now and not think about getting eaten by a shark,
even though the odds are virtually zero, and you might
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have done it before Jaws was made.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But you know that guy who went to the pond
probably thought the odds were zero too, Buddy.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You never know. Be careful stand in line for the
bathroom this weekend. You might lose your arm.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Otherwise Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Look, I'm just gonna put this out there. This is
a story up in the Daily Mail right now. Oh
it is close to shore us. Tell us what the book?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, I just a lot to give book tips. I
read this book. It was fantastic. The book is called
Close to Shore The Terrifying Shark Attacks of nineteen sixteen.
Michael Capuzo is the author. I don't know how long
the book has been out. I read it. It's really
well done. It supposedly was the story that provided the
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idea to Peter Benchley, who wrote the novel Jaws, which
was then obviously turned into the fabulously successful Steven Spielberg movie,
which actually buck began. I believe I'm correct in this.
I think Jaws was the beginning of the summer movie blockbuster,
and I think Jaws came out in like what did
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Jaws come out in nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That sounds I have to check. That sounds about right.
Let me just say the Mattawan Creek was if you
haven't seen it, it is very narrow at some points.
You're talking about a creek that is at some of
the attacks were six or seven miles from the ocean,
and if you look at the photo, the creek is
not very wide. You would never believe a shark. It
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gets to be about eight to ten feet in some places,
which when you think of a ten foot creek, the
notion that you could be attacked by a man and
it killed I believe was a three people. I think
maybe attack three killed two, but severe shark attacks in
a short period of time. They believe that it was
a bull shark because of the brackish nature. Is that
what it' said in the book? By the way, that's
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always what I've read. Yeah, that's a great question. Some
people have said that, oh, but maybe it was like
a road great white. I believe that most of the
zoologists out there were what are the people that are,
you know, the water zoologists you know I'm talking about, yeah,
animal marine biologists, marine biologists or zoologist who cares? Point
is they think it's a bull shark. Interesting interesting about
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bull sharks. They're believed to have the highest testosterone levels
of any animal in the world, and they can go
into fresh as well as salt water. So they're taking
a lot of chalk those bull sharks.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
This was a great white, they think all along, they
think it was a great one. Yeah, that was I
thought that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'd always had I had read in other shark attack books.
They believe it was a bull You you would lead,
you would love.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I mean, I think everybody out there, if you like
this show close to shore again, the terrifying shark attacks
of twenty nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's a fabulous book.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Now, if you're gonna it's it's not necessarily the one
you want to read while you're sitting at the beach
because interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So they say they caught a seven foot, two hundred
and thirty pound bull shark at the mouth of Mattawan Creek,
but there are some people who say that it was
actually a white shark. But because of the nature anyway,
do we have a do we have a marine biologist
in the audience who can weigh in on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I bet a lot of other people have read this
book because it was a bestseller back in the day
when it came out. And again, we're probably gonna make
this author a ton of money because I bet he
hasn't had an endorsement like this. It's a great beach reading.
But then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, yeah,
I don't know, necessarily it's the best one, but yeah.
July nineteen sixteen, alone, great White left its usual deep
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ocean habitat, headed along the New Jersey shoreline and in
Beach Haven and Spring Lake. And this was, by the way,
eleven miles inland, the most ferocious and unpredictable of predators
began a deadly rampage, the first shark attacks on swimmers
in US history. Because again, it's really kind of fascinating.
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They never believed up to that point necessarily that sharks
were this dangerous to humans.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And so anyway, you will love it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It's all about the history of sharks and swimming and
bathing and everything else associated with the beach lifestyle. Because
this was basically as the beach lifestyle began common to exist.
You know, the idea that you'd put on a bathing
suit and go swim in the ocean for fun was
not something that in the eighteen hundreds necessarily existed at all.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's a very good point.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Also, I've I've seen stuff about how even some people
who were especially if you were impressed into naval service
either you were forced to in the age or the
great sailing ships, like, not everybody knew how to swim. Oh,
imagine imagine being out there on a ship in the
middle of the ocean. It's like if this thing, even
if it were was inside a shore, this thing goes down.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I'm in I'm in rough shape.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
One of the things that was so great we were
talking earlier about. It's obviously Memorial Day. Another great book
about the the soldiers who decided to h to jump
into behind enemy lines on the Nazis. Many of the
guys in the hundred and first Airborne Buck who ended
up jumping out and fighting Nazis the first time they
ever went up in an airplane they jumped out of it. Yeah,
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I mean that is a that is a detail for
everybody out there who's ever been in an airplane. How
badass were these kids? These were you know, farm guys.
They'd hardly ever been anywhere, they'd never been in an airplane.
Can you imagine the first time you got in an
airplane jumping out with a parachute?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I still haven't. I've actually never have you ever, Donet,
I'm terrified to skydive in the first place. They used
to want to, like Heya Langley used to as part
of our basic training and CIA there was some skydiving
I think way back in the day. But then the
nerds took over and we're.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Like, I don't want to spread at ankle, so you know, but.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Can you imagine the first time you ever got in
an airplane. If you can remember out there listening to
us right now, the first time you got an air airplane,
how awe inspiring, how terrifying, how amazing it is to
be up above the clouds. The first time you ever
went up in an airplane, you jumped out of it.
This is a different level of bravery from those guys
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to the very first time. And then of course you
jump out of an airplane while getting shot at by
Nazis and fight them. The whole story of these guys
and the mobilization of the country surround World War Two?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Are you enough of it? Are you? A? You have
to pick one, Band of Brothers or the Pacific.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I like Band of Brothers. Yeah, and the books around.
I mean, I think it's just most people focus on Europe.
But I wish I knew more about both.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
A plus, I probably go the Pacific if I have
to choose between the two, but both excellent. And you've
got a great book recommendation close to shor it's called
close to get that book.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I'm a Band of Brothers not a bad book either,
get heard of that one, and also with the Old Breed.
If you're looking for the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Theater Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
If you look at the VIP email box and the
phone lines talking about when animals attack and people get
fired up, a lot of opinions, a lot of people
want to weigh in, a lot of stuff coming in
at us about all of that. And we have a
doctor John in Birmingham, Alabama, who is a heart surgeon,
has a story he wanted to share with us. Doctor John, Welcome, sir.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Hey, my friends love your show.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yeah, I'll give you a brief. I just heard. I've
happened to be here in your show. Came home to
eat twink. My wife listens to y'all. And when I
was doing my general surgery training in Mobile, Alabama, back
in nineteen eighty two to eighty seven, I was a
chief resident on trauma in the mergency room and we
got a call from Andalujah, Alabama. Andalujah, you know, on
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the way to the beach to death.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Oh yeah, I've driven, I've got by the way, I
have paid. I might have paid for the Andalusia Elementary
School to be built. With all the speeding tickets that
they give you. For those of you who've ever driven
through Andalusia. It is speeding ticket at Capital of America.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's the speed trap of the world.
And if you've gone through Wing and Faker, Alabama, you
went past this lake. You just never saw it. But
this guy was riding his bicycle, older man. He had
his Labrador retriever with him and there was that lake
and it was in the summer. He got off his bike,
it was hot, He jumped into lake. Dog got in
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with him. But next thing he knew he was being
pulled under. He didn't know what it was, but what
he got. He got pulled under by an alligator grabbed
him at the shoulder and tour his right arm off
at the shoulder. And the only reason he's revived was
because you know, the alligators kill you by drowning you first,
didn't they eat you? Well, he surfaced because his arm
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was off, so he was able to get up. Luckily,
there were two fishermen out in the lake, hurt him screaming.
By the time they got to him, of course he
was a demoratic shot. But they got him to the shore.
They took him to a little hospital in Andalujah, Alabama,
which one of my buddies that I trained with was
running the Merchy room that day. They saw him kind
of sewed off the ard of the braking ardery and
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brake theal vein all that and the shoulder tied all
that off. Dress That didn't send him to us in
Mobile at the University of South Alabama. So I was running
the Merchy room that day. He comes in and basically
we were suscitating him, got him well. The general the
authomedic surgeons took him and over a period of days
cleaned his arm up, finally closed the wound, and he
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finally was discharged. They went back in that lake and
started looking for the alligator, and they found it, and
they gutted the alligator and found that guy's arm in there.
But the cool thing that years later, when I was
already in practice as a heart surgeon here in Birmingham,
but I have been for thirty four years, I was
going through the grocery store and I don't know if
y'all ever heard of Guidepost magazine. I don't know if
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you've ever y'all ever kept up with that, but it
was like a little Christian magazine and I just happened
to call the caption on it that said eat arm
eaten by an alligator. And that was that guy from
back in the nineteen eighty seven, and I tracked him
down by phone. He still lives in Andalujah, Alabama. So
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that's just a quick story something that made you know.
I just thought it was interesting when I heard y'all.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Have you ever seen that before? I mean, I don't
imagine that down a mobile. Y'all get too many, ye
Alabama's not a thing you think.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Well, we got a bunch of snakes. I took care
of one of the worst Rattle state bites, and I
gave one guy, a logger who was a lumberjack. He
got bit by seven foot long Eastern common back and
he came in and shock and him. You know what
that venom does is make you every license your blood
cells and you your pea blood. Your blood doesn't clot.
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We gave him one hundred and nineteen amps and any
venom before he thought he would have died. And you know,
we took care of a lot of snake bites, some
sharp bites, a lot of burns, but nothing like that.
I mean nothing where And I to this day, I've
still got a pick. I used to carry a camera
on my locker back in the day. Of course, I
was a polaroid, and I took pictures of all the
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stuff I saw when not you know, through all the
trauma we took care of him back in those days.
I've still got a picture of that guy land on
the stretcher with his arm off right there at the shoulder.
But he lucky to be a very fortunate guy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
A huge concern. I know that people always talk about
it if you get yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
You know that they took even the first thing that
did that just we you know, we made sure the
bleeding was stopped, and then I would pick surgeons for
three days, took him in the operating room every day,
washed him out, irrigated the wounds, and then finally once
it was clean, pretty clean, they just mobilized the skin
and closed it like a stump like you do, and
an amputation on the leg. And he finally went home.
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And like I say, the guy moved back to and
I just happened to see his name on a Guidepost
magazine and I tracked him down and he's still lived
and we talked and he remembered vaguely about the merger
room experience.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Is the dog okay? By the way, producer Ali is
asking what.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
The dog did not get injured. The dog was barking
and that's the only reason that those guys that were
fishing in the lake hurting because the dog was barking.
Of course, when they got over there, all they saw
was just blood in the water and blood on the shore.
Then they saw him, but he was in shock. You know,
his blood pressure was about.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, doctor John, I'm sure, I'm sure he appreciates that
you helped get him patched up and save his life.
Doctor John from Alabamah, thank you. I gotta take of
a story of a story scariest. But this is what
I mean. You're in Alabama. If I were in Alabama,
so hey, if you want to go, you wanna go
splash around the pond, I'd splash.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Around the pond. No, well not anymore. Well Andalusia.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I mean, I'm not kidding Buck, And I bet there
are people who have made this drive. If you have
ever gone down from you know, the Midwest, Nashville, Birmingham, Indianapolis,
if you're driving down to the Gulf Coast, there's a
good chance you've gone through Andalusia. It is the speeding
ticket trap of anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Now when you say that, does that mean that even
if you're only to me, if if you get pulled
over and you're going, you know, within ten miles an
hour of the limit, like that's that's a little too tight.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well, And it's one of those places, buck where. And
I know you guys out there know this. Some of
you are probably like looking down at at your speedometer
right now because you're like, oh, Clea's mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
They will change the speed limit by multiple times, you know,
but like it'll go.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You're rowing along fifty five, you know, it's a back
road to Andalusia. Suddenly it's thirty five right like and
out of nowhere, and you really haven't changed anything, and
the cops are just sitting right there, just waiting to
pull you over. And I'm joking about it, but I
got hit in Andalusia. I mean, I'm not kidding. I
think I built their elementary school. It was like every
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year I'd drive down to the destined you know, Panama
City Beach thirty a area, Florida Gulf Coast, and you
get down to what they call La Lower Alabama, and
I bet we got people who've listened down there, and
so this is southern Alabama where you're getting into Andalujah, Buck.
But I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't think, you know,
the guy just hops in the lake. I'm sure he
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didn't think that he was going to suddenly get attacked
by an alligator, you know, just out for a jog.
You know, I thought when the doc was telling us
the story there, sometimes these alligators will come running out
and grabbed dogs like we saw that video. Unfortunately, had
that senior citizen that woman who was out walking like
I think a cocker spaniel, a poodle whatever, and the
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alligator came and grabbed the poodle and then they end
up grabbing the person to associated with that. But man,
that that area, that area of Alabama is the all
time speed speed capital. Nice people, but many they will
they maybe you have.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Not done a lot for the Tourism Bureau of Andalusia today,
if I may say so, speeding tickets an alligator attacks, sir,
I used to get
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Speeding tickets everywhere and uh and I really got popped
a lot down on the drive to destined
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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I thought he thought I was like this ginormous piece
of chicken dion times here. This is Animal Thunderdome. LD
do all right, So Claire, we mentioned this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This Florida man twenty three years old, he got his
arm bitten off by a ten foot alligator because he
went to relieve himself at a pot while he was
at a bar where the line was too long. He
fell in the water. He was drunk. And we actually
have some audio of the guy play it.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I lose my life, lost an arm.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So he's got a pretty good attitude about the situation
that he just lost an arm to an alligator. And
I put out this pole and I was wondering what
your answer would be. The worst way Now he's he's fine.
He lost I mean, he lost an arm, but he's
gonna be okay. The worst way to to if you
were gonna, if you were gonna bite it, you know
what I mean, if you're gonna, if you're at the end, Shark, crocodile, bear, lion.
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I put out the pole, Which one do you go with?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
All right, I'm gonna give.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You my answer, but we've got to come back, and
I've got to read you the quotes from this guy.
I know we played that one little short segment, so
just so you guys know, I know it's a Memorial
Day weekend. A lot of you are gonna be out
at the beach, maybe a lot of you traveling around
in Florida. This guy lost his arm because he said
it was too crowded by the bathroom line, so he
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went and decided to pee by a lake. And when
I play, when I read some of these quotes for you,
when you come back, you're gonna be like, this is
not this I'm reading from the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
These quotes are unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Don't give us the answer yet, but I want to
think about this one worst way to go shark, crocodile bear, lieon,
Clay will tell us and we have pole results.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Buck and I were texting this story back and forth
because it was just so crazy. This guy, this Florida guy.
I want everybody to be careful out there, especially if
you're going down to Florida for the holidays. Here this guy,
Jordan Rivera, said the line was too long at the bathroom,
so he decided to go down by the lake to
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go pee. And here's his quotes. These are real quotes.
I just a little lake, so I was trying to
go over there and take a little pee. Say, he
didn't realize how big the pond actually was.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
This is a quote.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Something happened where I either tripped or the ground below
me kind of just went down, and I ended up
in the water. And that's literally the last thing I remember. Okay, Buck,
I don't know about you, but I'm gonna bet that
this guy was pretty drunk. Because when you say something
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happened where I either tripped or the ground below me
kind of went down and I ended up in the water,
it's bad enough to end up in the water. He
ended up in the water with a ten foot alligator
that took his arm.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Here's a quote.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I looked over and I saw my arm the way
it was, and I was like, whoa. It was the
craziest thing. It was almost like out of a movie.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
And then we had the quote where he says I
didn't lose my life. He says they don't even serve food.
He said he wanted this is the other thing. He said,
there's gossip that he decided he was going to go
hand feet an alligator, and he said he wants to
dispel that rumor. They don't even serve food at the bar.
Couldn't have even served the gator food. It's completely not true.
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And he said again, these guys saved his life. Another
amazing quote. The first thing I would do is shake
the man's hand, said Rivera, perhaps forgetting that he lost
the arm. Said it feels like it's kind of there. Anyway,
angel saved him. The U asked this question wrapped on
him to stop the bleeding, to try, yeah, to try
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to to save this arm. All right, So I would say,
of all the things that could happen when you leave
and go outside, Buck full disclosure. Have you ever left
a crowded bar because you couldn't get to the bathroom
and gone outside to pee?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The fifth on this mat, I will just will, I
will admit to it.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I one hundred percent have seen long lines in the
bathroom before gone outside.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This guy was just gonna go pee in the pee
in the lake, he says.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Next thing you know, he's attacked by an alligator and
loses his arm. That is the worst result of the
bar line being too too long for the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I gave you the options if you're meeting your
maker because shark, crocodile, bear, or lion attack.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I have data to back this up.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think I think it's crocodile, and I'll tell you
why my worst I think crocodile would be the worst.
I know, alligator, crocodile, this is an allex but you
know this is a large reptile that eats you. I'll
tell you my theory on why it's the worst. Two
analysis points. One in the water. I think not only
would you be likely to be attacked by an alligator
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or crocodile, you would know that you were being eaten,
ripped to pieces. But I also think the likelihood is
you probably would drown, So drowning is supposedly an.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Awful way to go. They do the death role, that's right.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, so I think you combine getting killed by a
live animal and also drowning, which sounds like the worst
possible way to go other than like getting burned to
death or something, which I will.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Tell you it was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It was shocking to see there are this little pole,
little Friday pole. There are thousands of people that weighed
in four thousand plus votes. Crocodile came in with the
worst way to think in the animal kingdom at least
of these options. I wanted to throw hippopotamus on there
because they're actually incredibly dangerous and I just feel like
no one, you know, going by a hippo would be
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like getting eaten by a panda bear, Like we still
think of them as cute even though they're actually quite dangerous.
But it was fascinating to read the analysis that people
came up with Clay. In the comments, people went deep
on the like various. All of a sudden, there must
be a lot of ems folks that are following me
on Twitter because they're talking about the difference in how
but everyone was like, lion, No big deal. Lions are
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apparently they're just like, ah, they grab you by the
necker out like a light, no problem. I think they
would end you quickly. Yeah, they say end quickly. Shark,
you're talking massive blood lost trauma. That probably also pretty
fast all things considered. Although just being in the water,
which you also have with the crocodile very scary. Some
of the folks that wait him with the bear one.
The bear one was actually way worse than I thought
it would because apparently bears they kind of maul slowly.
(07:21):
So anyway, people went very deep into the comments here.
Crocodile was the winner of the worst A bad way
to go?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
What do you think happened to this guy? Do you
think he was just My theory would be he was
super drunk, super drunk, passed out. And then the allegant
because I don't believe the alligator was there like coming
out of the water, like I think he probably passed
out at the water's edge was where alligators their ambush hunters.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's where they do it. And and then you know
it was, you know, it just went for it. I
don't know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Mean that is I mean again when he says, like
I was standing by the water, and I bet he
started to have a little bit of the spins. Maybe
he had a lot of drinks and then he just
went in the water. He's like he didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I asked, carry this question really, and as a as
a transplanted New Yorker, it's just I feel like people
that live in these areas would never think about this.
So the the the habitat of the American alligator goes
up into it's obviously Florida's like you know, Grand Central
for alligators, right, and then you go up and uh
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and you see it. Georgia plenty of alligators. Parts of
eastern Texas. There are all of southeastern Texas alligators. But
right around, like the Carolinas, it starts to stop right
like U, the range slows down. But I asked, this
is a real question. We probably have an there must
be a zone where you think, oh, I'll just go
swimming in my lake house because there's like there's no
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gators up here. But actually, you know, I mean I
think like like maybe part of South Carolina or part
of North Carolina, Like there have to be places where
you think you're in the safe zone and you're gonna
go splashing around in the pond, but maybe you've got
a gator that's you know, got a fleece, got a
vest on or something.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's a great point.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
And also Florida people can get pretty cocky because you know,
you'll be out on your boat, you'll be out jet skiing,
you'll be out. They're not as afraid of alligators as
I would say a lot of people elsewhere are. And
the other aspect of this is that that is such
a good point because there are places like Memphis, for instance,
has alleg I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Say, I just checked folks in Tennessee. You're you think
you're all safe in Tennessee and Clay's home state. There
are alligators in Tennessee, but not many. There are now
some around Memphis. And if you're in North Alabama, uh,
I believe like around the Huntsville area where the Tennessee River,
there's there's certain places where there are a few alligators there.
(09:40):
It definitely seems unfair that you would, you know, go
jump in a lake in Memphis and suddenly.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
From alligator.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But you know, I mean there was a there was one.
I mean, it's total, like, the odds of this are
one in a million. You know, there was a great white,
great white shark attack, a fatal one up off the
Eye Islands of Maine that happened a few years ago.
So there's sometimes things, crazy things happen.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
There's a great shark attack book about I think it
was like in the nineteen twenties, and it's part of
what inspired Jaws.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
A great Matawan Creek I know. Oh dude, I could see.
We can talking with Montawan Creek all the time. Three
attacks in a few days. They think it was a
bull shark nineteen eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Maybe you think it was.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
This is like way off the coast, right, somebody seven
miles inland, seven miles inland. Yousually jump into a freshwater
creek and you get killed by a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Nineteen sixteen off in the Jersey shore, there was a
brackish creek connecting to the ocean. It was nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
That's a great book. What's the name of the book
that they wrote about this. They think it was one
shark that killed tons of people because at the time,
and it goes all into the history.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Close to shore, the terrifying shark attacks of nineteen sixteen,
is that the one I read.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I may be the book I read, a fantastic one
about this particular shark attack where they think it was one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There's one called I Survived the Shark Attack. Well that's
for kids.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Oh and I Survived books are actually my boys really
liked the I Survived Shark Attack books. But if you
want one to scare you, as we're coming in now
to the holiday season with Memorial Day weekend and people
typically going out to the beaches for the first time,
I'll look up during commercial break and see if I
can find the exact title of that book. But it
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is really well done because it dives into buck For
a long time, people didn't know whether sharks were dangerous, right,
Like they didn't have like a good sense for because
remember it wasn't that long ago. People didn't used to
go into the ocean as leisure, right, Like, oh, you're
just going to go swim in the ocean, Like that
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wasn't something that was very popular in the seventeen hundreds
and the eighteen hundreds and everything else. It's only the
beach as leisure that has really kind of taken off
in the last hundred years.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
In many ways, yes.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
So it's a fascinating kind of portrayal about the way
that Americans decide to spend their time and what the
dangers are associated with it.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So put it on the radar. I'll look it up.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'll share it with you if you want a fun
book that will also terrify you. Because I've been arguing
for a while, Buck, I think it's true the most
influential movie ever made in terms of changing everybody's behavior
was Jaws, because I don't think there's a single one
of you out there that will go into the water
now and not think about getting eaten by a shark,
even though the odds are virtually zero, and you might
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have done it before Jaws was made.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But you know that guy who went to the pond
probably thought the odds were zero too, Buddy.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You never know. Be careful stand in line for the
bathroom this weekend. You might lose your arm.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Otherwise Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Look, I'm just gonna put this out there. This is
a story up in the Daily Mail right now. Oh
it is close to shore us. Tell us what the book?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, I just a lot to give book tips. I
read this book. It was fantastic. The book is called
Close to Shore The Terrifying Shark Attacks of nineteen sixteen.
Michael Capuzo is the author. I don't know how long
the book has been out. I read it. It's really
well done. It supposedly was the story that provided the
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idea to Peter Benchley, who wrote the novel Jaws, which
was then obviously turned into the fabulously successful Steven Spielberg movie,
which actually buck began. I believe I'm correct in this.
I think Jaws was the beginning of the summer movie blockbuster,
and I think Jaws came out in like what did
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Jaws come out in nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That sounds I have to check. That sounds about right.
Let me just say the Mattawan Creek was if you
haven't seen it, it is very narrow at some points.
You're talking about a creek that is at some of
the attacks were six or seven miles from the ocean,
and if you look at the photo, the creek is
not very wide. You would never believe a shark. It
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gets to be about eight to ten feet in some places,
which when you think of a ten foot creek, the
notion that you could be attacked by a man and
it killed I believe was a three people. I think
maybe attack three killed two, but severe shark attacks in
a short period of time. They believe that it was
a bull shark because of the brackish nature. Is that
what it' said in the book? By the way, that's
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always what I've read. Yeah, that's a great question. Some
people have said that, oh, but maybe it was like
a road great white. I believe that most of the
zoologists out there were what are the people that are,
you know, the water zoologists you know I'm talking about, yeah,
animal marine biologists, marine biologists or zoologist who cares? Point
is they think it's a bull shark. Interesting interesting about
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bull sharks. They're believed to have the highest testosterone levels
of any animal in the world, and they can go
into fresh as well as salt water. So they're taking
a lot of chalk those bull sharks.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
This was a great white, they think all along, they
think it was a great one. Yeah, that was I
thought that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'd always had I had read in other shark attack books.
They believe it was a bull You you would lead,
you would love.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I mean, I think everybody out there, if you like
this show close to shore again, the terrifying shark attacks
of twenty nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's a fabulous book.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Now, if you're gonna it's it's not necessarily the one
you want to read while you're sitting at the beach
because interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So they say they caught a seven foot, two hundred
and thirty pound bull shark at the mouth of Mattawan Creek,
but there are some people who say that it was
actually a white shark. But because of the nature anyway,
do we have a do we have a marine biologist
in the audience who can weigh in on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I bet a lot of other people have read this
book because it was a bestseller back in the day
when it came out. And again, we're probably gonna make
this author a ton of money because I bet he
hasn't had an endorsement like this. It's a great beach reading.
But then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, yeah,
I don't know, necessarily it's the best one, but yeah.
July nineteen sixteen, alone, great White left its usual deep
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ocean habitat, headed along the New Jersey shoreline and in
Beach Haven and Spring Lake. And this was, by the way,
eleven miles inland, the most ferocious and unpredictable of predators
began a deadly rampage, the first shark attacks on swimmers
in US history. Because again, it's really kind of fascinating.
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They never believed up to that point necessarily that sharks
were this dangerous to humans.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And so anyway, you will love it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It's all about the history of sharks and swimming and
bathing and everything else associated with the beach lifestyle. Because
this was basically as the beach lifestyle began common to exist.
You know, the idea that you'd put on a bathing
suit and go swim in the ocean for fun was
not something that in the eighteen hundreds necessarily existed at all.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's a very good point.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Also, I've I've seen stuff about how even some people
who were especially if you were impressed into naval service
either you were forced to in the age or the
great sailing ships, like, not everybody knew how to swim. Oh,
imagine imagine being out there on a ship in the
middle of the ocean. It's like if this thing, even
if it were was inside a shore, this thing goes down.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I'm in I'm in rough shape.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
One of the things that was so great we were
talking earlier about. It's obviously Memorial Day. Another great book
about the the soldiers who decided to h to jump
into behind enemy lines on the Nazis. Many of the
guys in the hundred and first Airborne Buck who ended
up jumping out and fighting Nazis the first time they
ever went up in an airplane they jumped out of it. Yeah,
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I mean that is a that is a detail for
everybody out there who's ever been in an airplane. How
badass were these kids? These were you know, farm guys.
They'd hardly ever been anywhere, they'd never been in an airplane.
Can you imagine the first time you got in an
airplane jumping out with a parachute?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I still haven't. I've actually never have you ever, Donet,
I'm terrified to skydive in the first place. They used
to want to, like Heya Langley used to as part
of our basic training and CIA there was some skydiving
I think way back in the day. But then the
nerds took over and we're.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Like, I don't want to spread at ankle, so you know, but.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Can you imagine the first time you ever got in
an airplane. If you can remember out there listening to
us right now, the first time you got an air airplane,
how awe inspiring, how terrifying, how amazing it is to
be up above the clouds. The first time you ever
went up in an airplane, you jumped out of it.
This is a different level of bravery from those guys
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to the very first time. And then of course you
jump out of an airplane while getting shot at by
Nazis and fight them. The whole story of these guys
and the mobilization of the country surround World War Two?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Are you enough of it? Are you? A? You have
to pick one, Band of Brothers or the Pacific.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
I like Band of Brothers. Yeah, and the books around.
I mean, I think it's just most people focus on Europe.
But I wish I knew more about both.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
A plus, I probably go the Pacific if I have
to choose between the two, but both excellent. And you've
got a great book recommendation close to shor it's called
close to get that book.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I'm a Band of Brothers not a bad book either,
get heard of that one, and also with the Old Breed.
If you're looking for the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Theater Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
If you look at the VIP email box and the
phone lines talking about when animals attack and people get
fired up, a lot of opinions, a lot of people
want to weigh in, a lot of stuff coming in
at us about all of that. And we have a
doctor John in Birmingham, Alabama, who is a heart surgeon,
has a story he wanted to share with us. Doctor John, Welcome, sir.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Hey, my friends love your show.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yeah, I'll give you a brief. I just heard. I've
happened to be here in your show. Came home to
eat twink. My wife listens to y'all. And when I
was doing my general surgery training in Mobile, Alabama, back
in nineteen eighty two to eighty seven, I was a
chief resident on trauma in the mergency room and we
got a call from Andalujah, Alabama. Andalujah, you know, on
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the way to the beach to death.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Oh yeah, I've driven, I've got by the way, I
have paid. I might have paid for the Andalusia Elementary
School to be built. With all the speeding tickets that
they give you. For those of you who've ever driven
through Andalusia. It is speeding ticket at Capital of America.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's the speed trap of the world.
And if you've gone through Wing and Faker, Alabama, you
went past this lake. You just never saw it. But
this guy was riding his bicycle, older man. He had
his Labrador retriever with him and there was that lake
and it was in the summer. He got off his bike,
it was hot, He jumped into lake. Dog got in
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with him. But next thing he knew he was being
pulled under. He didn't know what it was, but what
he got. He got pulled under by an alligator grabbed
him at the shoulder and tour his right arm off
at the shoulder. And the only reason he's revived was
because you know, the alligators kill you by drowning you first,
didn't they eat you? Well, he surfaced because his arm
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was off, so he was able to get up. Luckily,
there were two fishermen out in the lake, hurt him screaming.
By the time they got to him, of course he
was a demoratic shot. But they got him to the shore.
They took him to a little hospital in Andalujah, Alabama,
which one of my buddies that I trained with was
running the Merchy room that day. They saw him kind
of sewed off the ard of the braking ardery and
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brake theal vein all that and the shoulder tied all
that off. Dress That didn't send him to us in
Mobile at the University of South Alabama. So I was running
the Merchy room that day. He comes in and basically
we were suscitating him, got him well. The general the
authomedic surgeons took him and over a period of days
cleaned his arm up, finally closed the wound, and he
(21:57):
finally was discharged. They went back in that lake and
started looking for the alligator, and they found it, and
they gutted the alligator and found that guy's arm in there.
But the cool thing that years later, when I was
already in practice as a heart surgeon here in Birmingham,
but I have been for thirty four years, I was
going through the grocery store and I don't know if
y'all ever heard of Guidepost magazine. I don't know if
(22:19):
you've ever y'all ever kept up with that, but it
was like a little Christian magazine and I just happened
to call the caption on it that said eat arm
eaten by an alligator. And that was that guy from
back in the nineteen eighty seven, and I tracked him
down by phone. He still lives in Andalujah, Alabama. So
(22:40):
that's just a quick story something that made you know.
I just thought it was interesting when I heard y'all.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Have you ever seen that before? I mean, I don't
imagine that down a mobile. Y'all get too many, ye
Alabama's not a thing you think.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Well, we got a bunch of snakes. I took care
of one of the worst Rattle state bites, and I
gave one guy, a logger who was a lumberjack. He
got bit by seven foot long Eastern common back and
he came in and shock and him. You know what
that venom does is make you every license your blood
cells and you your pea blood. Your blood doesn't clot.
(23:15):
We gave him one hundred and nineteen amps and any
venom before he thought he would have died. And you know,
we took care of a lot of snake bites, some
sharp bites, a lot of burns, but nothing like that.
I mean nothing where And I to this day, I've
still got a pick. I used to carry a camera
on my locker back in the day. Of course, I
was a polaroid, and I took pictures of all the
(23:36):
stuff I saw when not you know, through all the
trauma we took care of him back in those days.
I've still got a picture of that guy land on
the stretcher with his arm off right there at the shoulder.
But he lucky to be a very fortunate guy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
A huge concern. I know that people always talk about
it if you get yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
You know that they took even the first thing that
did that just we you know, we made sure the
bleeding was stopped, and then I would pick surgeons for
three days, took him in the operating room every day,
washed him out, irrigated the wounds, and then finally once
it was clean, pretty clean, they just mobilized the skin
and closed it like a stump like you do, and
an amputation on the leg. And he finally went home.
(24:16):
And like I say, the guy moved back to and
I just happened to see his name on a Guidepost
magazine and I tracked him down and he's still lived
and we talked and he remembered vaguely about the merger
room experience.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Is the dog okay? By the way, producer Ali is
asking what.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
The dog did not get injured. The dog was barking
and that's the only reason that those guys that were
fishing in the lake hurting because the dog was barking.
Of course, when they got over there, all they saw
was just blood in the water and blood on the shore.
Then they saw him, but he was in shock. You know,
his blood pressure was about.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, doctor John, I'm sure, I'm sure he appreciates that
you helped get him patched up and save his life.
Doctor John from Alabamah, thank you. I gotta take of
a story of a story scariest. But this is what
I mean. You're in Alabama. If I were in Alabama,
so hey, if you want to go, you wanna go
splash around the pond, I'd splash.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Around the pond. No, well not anymore. Well Andalusia.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I mean, I'm not kidding Buck, And I bet there
are people who have made this drive. If you have
ever gone down from you know, the Midwest, Nashville, Birmingham, Indianapolis,
if you're driving down to the Gulf Coast, there's a
good chance you've gone through Andalusia. It is the speeding
ticket trap of anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Now when you say that, does that mean that even
if you're only to me, if if you get pulled
over and you're going, you know, within ten miles an
hour of the limit, like that's that's a little too tight.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well, And it's one of those places, buck where. And
I know you guys out there know this. Some of
you are probably like looking down at at your speedometer
right now because you're like, oh, Clea's mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
They will change the speed limit by multiple times, you know,
but like it'll go.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You're rowing along fifty five, you know, it's a back
road to Andalusia. Suddenly it's thirty five right like and
out of nowhere, and you really haven't changed anything, and
the cops are just sitting right there, just waiting to
pull you over. And I'm joking about it, but I
got hit in Andalusia. I mean, I'm not kidding. I
think I built their elementary school. It was like every
(26:19):
year I'd drive down to the destined you know, Panama
City Beach thirty a area, Florida Gulf Coast, and you
get down to what they call La Lower Alabama, and
I bet we got people who've listened down there, and
so this is southern Alabama where you're getting into Andalujah, Buck.
But I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't think, you know,
the guy just hops in the lake. I'm sure he
(26:40):
didn't think that he was going to suddenly get attacked
by an alligator, you know, just out for a jog.
You know, I thought when the doc was telling us
the story there, sometimes these alligators will come running out
and grabbed dogs like we saw that video. Unfortunately, had
that senior citizen that woman who was out walking like
I think a cocker spaniel, a poodle whatever, and the
(27:00):
alligator came and grabbed the poodle and then they end
up grabbing the person to associated with that. But man,
that that area, that area of Alabama is the all
time speed speed capital. Nice people, but many they will
they maybe you have.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Not done a lot for the Tourism Bureau of Andalusia today,
if I may say so, speeding tickets an alligator attacks, sir,
I used to get
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Speeding tickets everywhere and uh and I really got popped
a lot down on the drive to destined
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