November 10, 2024 • 24 mins
Not to stereotype – but we will – what hobbies or characteristics are typical tells on political party affiliation?
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It starts now. I cast my vote yesterday Miami Beach.
Saw all of my tanned, happy and uh, you know,
sandal clad neighbors all lined up. I will tell you, Clay,
I promise you true story. A rather I believe, we
would say, jacked fellow in front of me in a
(00:37):
tank top who looked like he could probably put up
I mean he could probably put up Clay Travis numbers
like four hundred and fifty on the bench. He was
very large, very large fellow. And a woman on the
way in with a sign says are you going to
She had like a commalo and this is like outside
the zone where you're allowed you know, outside the zone.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Dre feed or whatever it is where you're allowed to
try to get So there were.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
A few people outside the zone who were making their
last pitch or whatever. Fine, but this woman goes, are
you gonna vote for Kamala or she goes, are you
voting for Kamala? Harris like they're having a little like
a little quiet, private secret moment together, and he goes
absolutely not like, yes, Miami Beach, Yes the jacked bro
(01:22):
is not voting for Kamala. Harris, I could have told
you that before he responded.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I've got a good question for you. We can have
a little bit of fun here and then we'll get
into the news. If you could only pick one thing
to know about a person that would guarantee that they
are going to vote either for Kamala or for Trump.
This is not something about their identity, but something that
they do, a habit, a activity. Mine would be, well,
(01:52):
you tell me, are there things that come to mind
immediately for you? Or you'd be like Trump guy, Kamala
person like whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think. I can talk to somebody about guns for
thirty seconds and with a ninety nine percent accuracy know
who they're voting for.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I would say, if you can bench press two hundred
and twenty five pounds, you almost certainly are voting for Trump.
Like if you only allowed men who could bench press,
for those of you out there whoever get on a bench,
if you could, that's two forty five plates on either
side without even talking to them at all, if you
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only allowed men who bench press to twenty five to vote,
I think it would be like ninety ten Trump. That
would be mine. If you just like strong, like to
your point when you were saying, like the guy's kind
of big and ripped. Ripped guys believe in individ This
is my theory on it. Super Ripped guys believe in
individual responsibility. They're willing to work hard, they show up
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every day and they put in effort. They are more
likely to be individualist and to vi Trump supporters. I
believe if I were having to pick, like just an
activity that somebody does, the other one would be.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
If you are if you are like a uh biker,
I feel like bikers.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Would not like a motorcycle motors what cyclists or motorcycle
because we're talking very different. Okay, cyclist, I feel like
I'm getting I'm trying to pick an activity. If you
are a cyclist, I feel like you are a commala voter.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh if you're if well, here's the thing. It's funny
because if I if I could call somebody a biker
and know that they wear leather jackets and have tattoos.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Trump Trump all the voters. If motorcyclist. All those people
are Trump, but like.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, no, But I was gonna say, if you're talking
cyclist who wears the like neoprene zip thing, yes, ninety
of voters guys and girls, ninety percent Comala voters. I
don't know why it is, but it is. Do you
agree with?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That would be my like if you had to pick
something that somebody does bicyclist like meaning like what Buck said,
like you wear the neoprene, like you're out versus weightlifting.
I feel like there are other things, right, like if
you're trans, I think you're probably voting Kamala right in general, yes,
but I'm talking about like activities that people do. That
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would be weightlifting and bike ling. Bicycling would be two
things where I'd be like, I feel like I know
how you vote.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I will say, though Miami Beach has historically has had
a substantial gay gay population, all of all of my
gay friends in Miami Beach voting Trump. I actually I'm
just saying now, maybe that's because they're my friends, but
all of my gay friends in Miami Beach are voting Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't think gay is as much of a proxy
for how you vote in a presidential election.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now, No, I don't think it at all. I'm just
saying years ago anecdote, anecdotally, Yeah, there's a strong I
think there's a strong contingent of well within the sort
of LGBTQ community among gay I think there's gonna be
a surprising number of Trump voters compared to what the
Republican norms are. Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck, but
(05:11):
we're having some fun.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
What hobby would you hear someone had and immediately say, oh,
that person is voting for Kamala. I'm just getting inundated
by cyclist right now. I still think cycling, and again
not motorcycling, just like you're on your bike and you're like,
what is neoprene? Right, that's what it is, right, like
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the cycling outfit. I don't think of those people as
huge Trump people. Maybe I'm wrong. I was gonna say
bird watching, and Buck just was like, no, there's tons
of bird watchers who are huge Trump people.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You had.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm trying to think through what would I hear that
you did as a hobby and I would be like, oh,
you are definitely a Kamala voter.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You've got one. Oh, I think Padell down here, which
is a fan like this fancy version of racketball that's
becoming popular, at least in South Florida. I don't know
if anyone plays this anywhere else. I think I think Democrats.
What about Peloton? Oh, I think Peloton is I was
gonna say, cipelling again, like I think, if you're on
the cycle, not the motorcycle, I tend to. I mean,
(06:18):
I guess that may cannot steroids, which is another way
to be on the cycle.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You were saying Adele, I went and saw Adele Padell,
Adele the sing Oh I thought you said Adele the singer. No,
I don't even know what Padell is. Maybe makes you
a cobble of voter. I've never even heard of Padell.
I thought you said Adele the scene. I was gonna say,
I went to go see her in Vegas with Laura. Uh,
(06:44):
what is the breakdown? What is the breakdown of voting
aged women who like Taylor Swift?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Is it for Democrats? Though you think it's super high Democrat,
there's I think it's super high everybody. I think it's
like eighty twenty women like Taylor Swift. No, no, no,
I'm saying, in terms of of the Taylor Swift voting
age audience, are they overwhelmingly Democrats or is it fifty
to fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think it's probably like sixty five to thirty five.
Democrat would be my bet.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh, we're going to start getting into this. We've got
the cyclists are coming for us right now Sundays with
Clay and Boss. We've started to break the phone lines
and the email inbox, and we've got a lot of
people weighing in on some of our discussion here about
hobbies that differentiator that are differentiated by political affiliation. Let's
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see who we've got talkbacks, We've got calls, let me
see hold on VIP email from Mike. I'll start with
this one, Clay, Hey, guys, definitely ultimate Frisbee. I've been
playing for twenty five years. I'm now fifty seven, and
the sport is loaded with leftists. That's a great call.
I would great through it Frisbee sport.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I wouldn't really have thought about it very much, but
that is interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's I'm not trying to cast aspersions. I don't need
the Ultimate Frisbee community come after me, but there is
something of an association with the smoking of certain substances
and the playing of ultimate frisbee on college campuses. I
just I knew the frisbee guys a lot of hemp.
They wore a lot of hemp. Also ponytails. I would say,
(08:20):
if you're a man with a ponytail, maybe also a
man bun, you are more likely to vote Kamala than
a man with a normal haircut.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Does that makes sense? Like if you have a ponytail,
not a woman. If you are a man with a ponytail,
you are more likely to vote Kamala than a man
with like a traditional haircut. Are ponytail guys are going
to be furious?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I mean, like ponytail guys are gonna come for
you right now. I'm just listening.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There's not that many ponytail guys. If I see a
guy with a ponytail, I'm not like, you know, that
guy is a huge Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think it was more early nineties. I feel like
ponytails had a little bit more of a moment. You know,
people are going for it, just like that. I'm with
the grunge scene that the goateee became much more of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
A thing, like bearded men yes, I remember the go tea,
but bearded men, not men with beards. Some might say,
uh that there could be somebody on the ticket with one.
I'm talking about bearded men. I think we're more likely
to vote Trump, right, Like if I just if you
only told me, like, hey, what is a male characteristic
(09:26):
that you could point to that would vote Trump? I
would say a beard would be a good guess for
a men, an actual facial beard, not a woman.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I also think Trump wins, he should grow a beard.
It would be epic. But that's there's a there's a
meme of Trump with a beard. I think it would
be incredible if Trump grew beer. Let's take some of
these cyclist callers here, Steven Santa Barbara, a lovely part
of the country. What's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Hey, guys, Hey, yeah you called us? What am I
wrong on the cyclist front?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Partially wrong?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
First off, it's not neaprimus lycra and there's numerous reasons
to wear the craft. But I would say in the
old days is probably ten percent conservative cyclists, and that
might have creeped up to forty percent now I remember, Well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's quite a big move. But you would if you
had to stake your life on it. And because I
know a lot of people out there respond anytime you
talk about general groups by saying I am X and
I do why. That doesn't mean the group is wrong, right, So,
like women are going to vote for Kamala according to
(10:36):
the data, and men are going to vote for Trump.
That doesn't mean that some men aren't voting Kamala or
some women aren't voting Trump. Your individual choice doesn't eliminate
the overall statistical reality. In other words, your anecdote doesn't
eliminate the rules. So would you agree with me that
bicyclist in general, as a cyclist yourself, would vote Kamala
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over Trump.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I would partially agree with you. I think that titans turning.
I think Democrats has screwed up so royally that even
a diehard Democrat has to look at what they've done
in the same people are idiot. That's issue. That's the
way I see it. Yeah, I have to agree with
you that, I would say so. But it's turning. It's turning,
And all right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, I hope more of your lycra clad brothers and
sisters in the cycling world will vote Trump in this cycle.
That would be fantastic. Lou and Sarasota another another cyclist
for Trump. Here a fellow Floridian. What's up, Lou Clay.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Bud Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call. I
appreciate it. Heydor to see guys. Uh So, yes, I'm
star so, I'm I'm a licra wearing guy. I also
like Ar's shotguns football. Uh So, I will say this ice.
We we moved here about two years ago, two and
a half years ago. Uh. There's a fair amount of
contingency of people that do like Trump or ride bicycles.
(12:00):
But I also think it's geographical because when we lived
in Baltimore, it was very hard to find anybody that
was conservative in the group that we wrote with, which
were hundreds of people.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Right, You're gonna find that with any hobby. Right. So
we're trying to assess nationally what the political breakdown of
some of these hobbies would be.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And by the way, I'm open, I think this is
super fascinating stuff. I'm open to somebody hitting me with
a and me being like, you know what, that's genius.
I think you're definitely right. Again, I went weightlifting. You
tend to vote for Trump? And bicycling. I would think
you tend to vote for commlin. I'm trying not to
pick something that would overwhelmingly be one gender or another. Right,
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So there are certain things like that men do more
than women, and so loud.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I do need to get a sense of your judgment here.
What is worse to you people who use leaf blowers
before nine o'clock in the morning or drivers who encroach
on the cyclist lane.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I would say drivers, because leaf flower should be able
to get up at eight o'clock and more than do
their work.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh man, he's pro leaf blowing early morning. I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
We got a leaf blower who called in. Do we
have the leaf blower who left me a message? Because
I think, yeah, we got to talk back on a
leaf blower. For those of you out there, I'm trying
to make the world more civilized. Leaf blowing should only
exist from nine am in the morning to nine pm
at night. It gives you twelve hours. That's plenty of
time to blow leaves all over the place with your
(13:30):
with your heart's content. Here is one of our guys
from San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Hey Clay, this is ben San Antonio landscape for Ben,
And I gotta say, if I was servicing in your area,
I definitely start at seven, maybe even six thirty, just
control you. I think it would be hilarious anyway, supporting
everything else, but this gotta get done. I'm not going
(13:55):
to be working at night vision goggles. Have a great day,
go Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I did think that my night vision got's suggestion was
creative one. That's a good one. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think the landscapers near me are intentionally starting their
leaf blowers now faster than they otherwise would. I think
they've got it out for me. And I didn't know
that I had angered such a large community. If we
got leaf blowing, flutist bike riders, I'm in trouble. If
there's somebody that overlaps with all three of those things.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, So, while we're on the subject, kind of do
people mow their lawns too much? Like what's wrong with
the grass getting a little bit longer? I feel like
I live with a tyranny of lawnmower noise everywhere I
go all the time outside of New York City, where
no one has lawns, but I'm always hearing lawns being.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Mode While doing Miami it always is growing. In Miami,
you don't have an off season, right, you have to
cut the grass all year round.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
We may have direct we may have just solved this puzzle.
Thank you for that. But yes, I mean freaking lawnmowers.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean, I think in Miami you would have to
cut your grass basically all year round. I'm sure it
grows a little bit slower in the winter, but you
just have to move to a part of the country
where you get like five months off.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
VIPs lighting us up here, Darlene, You guys are way
off base about cyclists. They wear lycra not neoprene. Okay, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Know what.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Lastic fabric is. Yeah, I can't break my synthetics are
a little bit off. Look, it's the good news is
that it still looks like a teletubby. Either way. Most
cyclists in our area are fireman, police officers, and real men.
They vote Republican. No one said cycling is a you know,
Lance Armstrong is a superstar. We're just trying to see
if there is a political affiliation that goes along with
(15:35):
some of these things. We didn't mention this. Probably the
easiest one is, or like the biggest disparity that you
would see if you were to chart this out. I
think if you're a hunter, there's an above a ninety
percent chance you vote for very high. I think it's
probably ninety ninety five percent chance if you are an
active and avid hunter you vote for Donald Trump. I
think if you go to the gun range, it's probably
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eighty percent seventy eighty percent you vote for Donald Trump.
So it's also very high. Maybe it's as high as hunting.
So we're trying to think of some of the other
activities alf.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think would be very high on the Trump team.
Our friend Nick Adams says, if you're a Taylor Swift fan,
you tend to vote. I said, I thought it would
be sixty five thirty five that Taylor Swift people would
vote Kamala. I think that's probably true, although that's partly
again a function of the fact that Taylor Swift's fan
base is overwhelmingly female. I think that plays in there
(16:29):
as well, So you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Don't think she necessarily skews left among females. It's just
she has such a huge female audience and they skew
Democrat to begin that. That's kind of what I thought,
like I would guess there are a lot of you know,
uh right leaning twenty twenty to twenty you know, nine
year old girls in the Nashville area who love Taylor Swift,
but they don't love her politics necessarily. That would be
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my guest. I think that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I love this by and I would love to see
the data if anybody's got data on hobbies as a
function of political voting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This you've seen fascinating. You've seen the the in terms
of career or employment. The data is fascinating, and there
are very few professions that skew heavily right wing. But
there are and very few organizations, companies or you know,
or entities. I should say, you know, what you see
is that the things that still remain dominated by Again,
(17:24):
we all understand dominated doesn't mean there aren't other people
that you know, have our Democrats that are in the
mix too, but that are overwhelmingly Republican. The Marine corps, police, firemen,
general contractors, small business owners. Overall, I think it's like
sixty forty or six, you know, tend to be an enemy. Yeah,
(17:48):
you know, it's not like overwhelming, But when you get
on the Democrats side of things, like ninety five percent
of psychiatrists or democrats, ninety nine percent of Google employees
or democrats, the University of Amster University professors ninety seven
percent of them or something like that, or democrats. I mean,
they have these total areas of professional dominance, which is,
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you know, unfortunate for the country. By the way, Union's
overwhelmingly Democrat as well.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Andrew, by the way, in Ashville, Andrew, first of all,
before we get into your criticism, how are things in Ashville?
Is the water back power house the situation for you?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
The water's back powers back in certain areas, But I mean, overall,
it's it's going all right. Can't complain, thankfully, my family.
We've we pulled through.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You just cut your pony tail off. I said, if
you had to go Beard Trump voter, ponytail mail Kamala voter,
do you want to fire back on behalf of formerly
ponytailed men.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, I mean I can't. I can't say that all
ponytail men will vote for Trump. But I definitely voted
for Trump and will vote for Trump. I'm more along
the lines of a moderate independent. I go for the
policies and all that, so.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I but if you had Let's say that you were
the president of the Ponytailed Men of Ashville Association and
you had everybody show up so you guys could play
flutes and ride bikes together. Don't you feel don't you
feel like the vast majority of the ponytailed men of America,
when they took a break from playing flutes and riding bikes,
would be voting for Kamala.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I don't know, I can't. I can't say that, honestly.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I guess it.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I guess it just fans a.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You know, nobody puts nobody puts ponytail in a corner clay.
All right, you're not, by the way, thank you for
calling in.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm glad that things are getting good enough in Asheville
for him to be fired up about my take on ponytails.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh to uh to be calling it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm just saying, can you think of something again, not
that is identity laden other than a ponytail where you
would be like that guy's voting for Kamala. I can't
ponytail guy.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think this is a minor thing, but I have
come across this. Uh maybe just because we work in media.
If you wear glasses as a fashion accessory, not because
you need them to see, like prescription glasses.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You're voting democrat, like I've never been. Mark Cuban now
looks like Rachel Maddow like that, not if you wear glasses.
If you wear glasses that you don't need for vision purposes,
like to help you see. I think there's a very
high it's a fashion accessory. At that point, you like
the way they look on you. I think you're a democrat.
Like Mark Cuban's new glasses. That's because he's gone full democrat.
(20:43):
I think Elon Musk said that he's now indistinguishable from
Rachel Maddow, which when you do put them side by side,
it is really funny how similar Mark Cuban and Rachel
Maddow look. I will say that Sunday Drop with Clay
and Buck, we are deluged.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The guys have opened up. The hail is hitting us
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about silliness. Jay in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Jay, you I
have to say you may have actually the best answer
and the clearest insight on this conundrum of all go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Absolutely, anyone who wears a mask nowadays is definitely voting
for Kamala, no question.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I think that may be.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think you get the prize if there was one.
I wish we had a prize, sorry, but we do
get to have you talk to everybody across the country.
Clay ninety nine point nine percent accuracy. I mean, that's
more accuracy than like most home pregnancy tests, you know
what I mean, Like, do you have a mask on
at this point you're voting Kamalo. It's that is a
great point.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I would be stunned if there is a Trump wearing
Trump voting mask wearer anywhere in the country right now.
I mean, I mean, honestly, I would just be like,
how is this possible? And I'm not talking like somebody
might be going through chemotherapy, right, you're so incredibly Sim's
talking about if you're if you're a lumberjack and you
(22:33):
don't want to inhale sawdust for your job. We're talking
talking about on an airplane and you are sitting there
in a mask. You are one hundred percent voting for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We've also got an I've got interested with Gerald in
Daytona Beach, a Floridian. What's going on? Gerald?
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Hey, this is a Daytona Beach nine and sunny down
here after the hurricanes. But last week was like Soberfest,
which is four days a motorcycle and ponytails. And I
wore my Trump hat. By the way, first day of
early voting was here yesterday and I went.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But I kind of did.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
A survey while I was walking down Main Street, which
had five hundred thousand bikers. One person, one person I
found that would vote for Kamala Harris. Everybody else love
the Trump hat and would vote Trump. We're all boot
collar workers and that's that we bought our bike.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Now, I would say, riding a motorcycle cancels out the ponytail. Well,
if you're a biker and you have a ponytail, it's
like if you were a Viking in the eight hundreds
and you have a ponytail.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Different situation, different situation.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Different situation than ponytail, ultimate frisbee or ponytail like weed
smoke or you.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Know, build from the office and accounting, we're talking about
if you walk around wearing birkenstocks with a ponytail, right,
that's a little different.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Man bun might be a better way to describe it now.
I don't even know if man buns are still a
thing they but Clay were for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What about samurais you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It starts now. I cast my vote yesterday Miami Beach.
Saw all of my tanned, happy and uh, you know,
sandal clad neighbors all lined up. I will tell you, Clay,
I promise you true story. A rather I believe, we
would say, jacked fellow in front of me in a
(00:37):
tank top who looked like he could probably put up
I mean he could probably put up Clay Travis numbers
like four hundred and fifty on the bench. He was
very large, very large fellow. And a woman on the
way in with a sign says are you going to
She had like a commalo and this is like outside
the zone where you're allowed you know, outside the zone.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Dre feed or whatever it is where you're allowed to
try to get So there were.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
A few people outside the zone who were making their
last pitch or whatever. Fine, but this woman goes, are
you gonna vote for Kamala or she goes, are you
voting for Kamala? Harris like they're having a little like
a little quiet, private secret moment together, and he goes
absolutely not like, yes, Miami Beach, Yes the jacked bro
(01:22):
is not voting for Kamala. Harris, I could have told
you that before he responded.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I've got a good question for you. We can have
a little bit of fun here and then we'll get
into the news. If you could only pick one thing
to know about a person that would guarantee that they
are going to vote either for Kamala or for Trump.
This is not something about their identity, but something that
they do, a habit, a activity. Mine would be, well,
(01:52):
you tell me, are there things that come to mind
immediately for you? Or you'd be like Trump guy, Kamala
person like whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think. I can talk to somebody about guns for
thirty seconds and with a ninety nine percent accuracy know
who they're voting for.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I would say, if you can bench press two hundred
and twenty five pounds, you almost certainly are voting for Trump.
Like if you only allowed men who could bench press,
for those of you out there whoever get on a bench,
if you could, that's two forty five plates on either
side without even talking to them at all, if you
(02:29):
only allowed men who bench press to twenty five to vote,
I think it would be like ninety ten Trump. That
would be mine. If you just like strong, like to
your point when you were saying, like the guy's kind
of big and ripped. Ripped guys believe in individ This
is my theory on it. Super Ripped guys believe in
individual responsibility. They're willing to work hard, they show up
(02:52):
every day and they put in effort. They are more
likely to be individualist and to vi Trump supporters. I
believe if I were having to pick, like just an
activity that somebody does, the other one would be.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
If you are if you are like a uh biker,
I feel like bikers.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Would not like a motorcycle motors what cyclists or motorcycle
because we're talking very different. Okay, cyclist, I feel like
I'm getting I'm trying to pick an activity. If you
are a cyclist, I feel like you are a commala voter.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh if you're if well, here's the thing. It's funny
because if I if I could call somebody a biker
and know that they wear leather jackets and have tattoos.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Trump Trump all the voters. If motorcyclist. All those people
are Trump, but like.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, no, But I was gonna say, if you're talking
cyclist who wears the like neoprene zip thing, yes, ninety
of voters guys and girls, ninety percent Comala voters. I
don't know why it is, but it is. Do you
agree with?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That would be my like if you had to pick
something that somebody does bicyclist like meaning like what Buck said,
like you wear the neoprene, like you're out versus weightlifting.
I feel like there are other things, right, like if
you're trans, I think you're probably voting Kamala right in general, yes,
but I'm talking about like activities that people do. That
(04:20):
would be weightlifting and bike ling. Bicycling would be two
things where I'd be like, I feel like I know
how you vote.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I will say, though Miami Beach has historically has had
a substantial gay gay population, all of all of my
gay friends in Miami Beach voting Trump. I actually I'm
just saying now, maybe that's because they're my friends, but
all of my gay friends in Miami Beach are voting Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't think gay is as much of a proxy
for how you vote in a presidential election.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now, No, I don't think it at all. I'm just
saying years ago anecdote, anecdotally, Yeah, there's a strong I
think there's a strong contingent of well within the sort
of LGBTQ community among gay I think there's gonna be
a surprising number of Trump voters compared to what the
Republican norms are. Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck, but
(05:11):
we're having some fun.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
What hobby would you hear someone had and immediately say, oh,
that person is voting for Kamala. I'm just getting inundated
by cyclist right now. I still think cycling, and again
not motorcycling, just like you're on your bike and you're like,
what is neoprene? Right, that's what it is, right, like
(05:34):
the cycling outfit. I don't think of those people as
huge Trump people. Maybe I'm wrong. I was gonna say
bird watching, and Buck just was like, no, there's tons
of bird watchers who are huge Trump people.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You had.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm trying to think through what would I hear that
you did as a hobby and I would be like, oh,
you are definitely a Kamala voter.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You've got one. Oh, I think Padell down here, which
is a fan like this fancy version of racketball that's
becoming popular, at least in South Florida. I don't know
if anyone plays this anywhere else. I think I think Democrats.
What about Peloton? Oh, I think Peloton is I was
gonna say, cipelling again, like I think, if you're on
the cycle, not the motorcycle, I tend to. I mean,
(06:18):
I guess that may cannot steroids, which is another way
to be on the cycle.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You were saying Adele, I went and saw Adele Padell,
Adele the sing Oh I thought you said Adele the singer. No,
I don't even know what Padell is. Maybe makes you
a cobble of voter. I've never even heard of Padell.
I thought you said Adele the scene. I was gonna say,
I went to go see her in Vegas with Laura. Uh,
(06:44):
what is the breakdown? What is the breakdown of voting
aged women who like Taylor Swift?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Is it for Democrats? Though you think it's super high Democrat,
there's I think it's super high everybody. I think it's
like eighty twenty women like Taylor Swift. No, no, no,
I'm saying, in terms of of the Taylor Swift voting
age audience, are they overwhelmingly Democrats or is it fifty
to fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think it's probably like sixty five to thirty five.
Democrat would be my bet.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh, we're going to start getting into this. We've got
the cyclists are coming for us right now Sundays with
Clay and Boss. We've started to break the phone lines
and the email inbox, and we've got a lot of
people weighing in on some of our discussion here about
hobbies that differentiator that are differentiated by political affiliation. Let's
(07:36):
see who we've got talkbacks, We've got calls, let me
see hold on VIP email from Mike. I'll start with
this one, Clay, Hey, guys, definitely ultimate Frisbee. I've been
playing for twenty five years. I'm now fifty seven, and
the sport is loaded with leftists. That's a great call.
I would great through it Frisbee sport.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I wouldn't really have thought about it very much, but
that is interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's I'm not trying to cast aspersions. I don't need
the Ultimate Frisbee community come after me, but there is
something of an association with the smoking of certain substances
and the playing of ultimate frisbee on college campuses. I
just I knew the frisbee guys a lot of hemp.
They wore a lot of hemp. Also ponytails. I would say,
(08:20):
if you're a man with a ponytail, maybe also a
man bun, you are more likely to vote Kamala than
a man with a normal haircut.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Does that makes sense? Like if you have a ponytail,
not a woman. If you are a man with a ponytail,
you are more likely to vote Kamala than a man
with like a traditional haircut. Are ponytail guys are going
to be furious?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I mean, like ponytail guys are gonna come for
you right now. I'm just listening.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There's not that many ponytail guys. If I see a
guy with a ponytail, I'm not like, you know, that
guy is a huge Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think it was more early nineties. I feel like
ponytails had a little bit more of a moment. You know,
people are going for it, just like that. I'm with
the grunge scene that the goateee became much more of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
A thing, like bearded men yes, I remember the go tea,
but bearded men, not men with beards. Some might say,
uh that there could be somebody on the ticket with one.
I'm talking about bearded men. I think we're more likely
to vote Trump, right, Like if I just if you
only told me, like, hey, what is a male characteristic
(09:26):
that you could point to that would vote Trump? I
would say a beard would be a good guess for
a men, an actual facial beard, not a woman.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I also think Trump wins, he should grow a beard.
It would be epic. But that's there's a there's a
meme of Trump with a beard. I think it would
be incredible if Trump grew beer. Let's take some of
these cyclist callers here, Steven Santa Barbara, a lovely part
of the country. What's up, Steve?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Hey, guys, Hey, yeah you called us? What am I
wrong on the cyclist front?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Partially wrong?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
First off, it's not neaprimus lycra and there's numerous reasons
to wear the craft. But I would say in the
old days is probably ten percent conservative cyclists, and that
might have creeped up to forty percent now I remember, Well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's quite a big move. But you would if you
had to stake your life on it. And because I
know a lot of people out there respond anytime you
talk about general groups by saying I am X and
I do why. That doesn't mean the group is wrong, right, So,
like women are going to vote for Kamala according to
(10:36):
the data, and men are going to vote for Trump.
That doesn't mean that some men aren't voting Kamala or
some women aren't voting Trump. Your individual choice doesn't eliminate
the overall statistical reality. In other words, your anecdote doesn't
eliminate the rules. So would you agree with me that
bicyclist in general, as a cyclist yourself, would vote Kamala
(11:00):
over Trump.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I would partially agree with you. I think that titans turning.
I think Democrats has screwed up so royally that even
a diehard Democrat has to look at what they've done
in the same people are idiot. That's issue. That's the
way I see it. Yeah, I have to agree with
you that, I would say so. But it's turning. It's turning,
And all right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, I hope more of your lycra clad brothers and
sisters in the cycling world will vote Trump in this cycle.
That would be fantastic. Lou and Sarasota another another cyclist
for Trump. Here a fellow Floridian. What's up, Lou Clay.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Bud Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call. I
appreciate it. Heydor to see guys. Uh So, yes, I'm
star so, I'm I'm a licra wearing guy. I also
like Ar's shotguns football. Uh So, I will say this ice.
We we moved here about two years ago, two and
a half years ago. Uh. There's a fair amount of
contingency of people that do like Trump or ride bicycles.
(12:00):
But I also think it's geographical because when we lived
in Baltimore, it was very hard to find anybody that
was conservative in the group that we wrote with, which
were hundreds of people.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Right, You're gonna find that with any hobby. Right. So
we're trying to assess nationally what the political breakdown of
some of these hobbies would be.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And by the way, I'm open, I think this is
super fascinating stuff. I'm open to somebody hitting me with
a and me being like, you know what, that's genius.
I think you're definitely right. Again, I went weightlifting. You
tend to vote for Trump? And bicycling. I would think
you tend to vote for commlin. I'm trying not to
pick something that would overwhelmingly be one gender or another. Right,
(12:40):
So there are certain things like that men do more
than women, and so loud.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I do need to get a sense of your judgment here.
What is worse to you people who use leaf blowers
before nine o'clock in the morning or drivers who encroach
on the cyclist lane.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I would say drivers, because leaf flower should be able
to get up at eight o'clock and more than do
their work.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh man, he's pro leaf blowing early morning. I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
We got a leaf blower who called in. Do we
have the leaf blower who left me a message? Because
I think, yeah, we got to talk back on a
leaf blower. For those of you out there, I'm trying
to make the world more civilized. Leaf blowing should only
exist from nine am in the morning to nine pm
at night. It gives you twelve hours. That's plenty of
time to blow leaves all over the place with your
(13:30):
with your heart's content. Here is one of our guys
from San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Hey Clay, this is ben San Antonio landscape for Ben,
And I gotta say, if I was servicing in your area,
I definitely start at seven, maybe even six thirty, just
control you. I think it would be hilarious anyway, supporting
everything else, but this gotta get done. I'm not going
(13:55):
to be working at night vision goggles. Have a great day,
go Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I did think that my night vision got's suggestion was
creative one. That's a good one. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think the landscapers near me are intentionally starting their
leaf blowers now faster than they otherwise would. I think
they've got it out for me. And I didn't know
that I had angered such a large community. If we
got leaf blowing, flutist bike riders, I'm in trouble. If
there's somebody that overlaps with all three of those things.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, So, while we're on the subject, kind of do
people mow their lawns too much? Like what's wrong with
the grass getting a little bit longer? I feel like
I live with a tyranny of lawnmower noise everywhere I
go all the time outside of New York City, where
no one has lawns, but I'm always hearing lawns being.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Mode While doing Miami it always is growing. In Miami,
you don't have an off season, right, you have to
cut the grass all year round.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
We may have direct we may have just solved this puzzle.
Thank you for that. But yes, I mean freaking lawnmowers.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean, I think in Miami you would have to
cut your grass basically all year round. I'm sure it
grows a little bit slower in the winter, but you
just have to move to a part of the country
where you get like five months off.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
VIPs lighting us up here, Darlene, You guys are way
off base about cyclists. They wear lycra not neoprene. Okay, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Know what.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Lastic fabric is. Yeah, I can't break my synthetics are
a little bit off. Look, it's the good news is
that it still looks like a teletubby. Either way. Most
cyclists in our area are fireman, police officers, and real men.
They vote Republican. No one said cycling is a you know,
Lance Armstrong is a superstar. We're just trying to see
if there is a political affiliation that goes along with
(15:35):
some of these things. We didn't mention this. Probably the
easiest one is, or like the biggest disparity that you
would see if you were to chart this out. I
think if you're a hunter, there's an above a ninety
percent chance you vote for very high. I think it's
probably ninety ninety five percent chance if you are an
active and avid hunter you vote for Donald Trump. I
think if you go to the gun range, it's probably
(15:59):
eighty percent seventy eighty percent you vote for Donald Trump.
So it's also very high. Maybe it's as high as hunting.
So we're trying to think of some of the other
activities alf.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think would be very high on the Trump team.
Our friend Nick Adams says, if you're a Taylor Swift fan,
you tend to vote. I said, I thought it would
be sixty five thirty five that Taylor Swift people would
vote Kamala. I think that's probably true, although that's partly
again a function of the fact that Taylor Swift's fan
base is overwhelmingly female. I think that plays in there
(16:29):
as well, So you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Don't think she necessarily skews left among females. It's just
she has such a huge female audience and they skew
Democrat to begin that. That's kind of what I thought,
like I would guess there are a lot of you know,
uh right leaning twenty twenty to twenty you know, nine
year old girls in the Nashville area who love Taylor Swift,
but they don't love her politics necessarily. That would be
(16:51):
my guest. I think that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I love this by and I would love to see
the data if anybody's got data on hobbies as a
function of political voting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This you've seen fascinating. You've seen the the in terms
of career or employment. The data is fascinating, and there
are very few professions that skew heavily right wing. But
there are and very few organizations, companies or you know,
or entities. I should say, you know, what you see
is that the things that still remain dominated by Again,
(17:24):
we all understand dominated doesn't mean there aren't other people
that you know, have our Democrats that are in the
mix too, but that are overwhelmingly Republican. The Marine corps, police, firemen,
general contractors, small business owners. Overall, I think it's like
sixty forty or six, you know, tend to be an enemy. Yeah,
(17:48):
you know, it's not like overwhelming, But when you get
on the Democrats side of things, like ninety five percent
of psychiatrists or democrats, ninety nine percent of Google employees
or democrats, the University of Amster University professors ninety seven
percent of them or something like that, or democrats. I mean,
they have these total areas of professional dominance, which is,
(18:11):
you know, unfortunate for the country. By the way, Union's
overwhelmingly Democrat as well.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Andrew, by the way, in Ashville, Andrew, first of all,
before we get into your criticism, how are things in Ashville?
Is the water back power house the situation for you?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
The water's back powers back in certain areas, But I mean, overall,
it's it's going all right. Can't complain, thankfully, my family.
We've we pulled through.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You just cut your pony tail off. I said, if
you had to go Beard Trump voter, ponytail mail Kamala voter,
do you want to fire back on behalf of formerly
ponytailed men.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, I mean I can't. I can't say that all
ponytail men will vote for Trump. But I definitely voted
for Trump and will vote for Trump. I'm more along
the lines of a moderate independent. I go for the
policies and all that, so.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I but if you had Let's say that you were
the president of the Ponytailed Men of Ashville Association and
you had everybody show up so you guys could play
flutes and ride bikes together. Don't you feel don't you
feel like the vast majority of the ponytailed men of America,
when they took a break from playing flutes and riding bikes,
would be voting for Kamala.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I don't know, I can't. I can't say that, honestly.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I guess it.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I guess it just fans a.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You know, nobody puts nobody puts ponytail in a corner clay.
All right, you're not, by the way, thank you for
calling in.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm glad that things are getting good enough in Asheville
for him to be fired up about my take on ponytails.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh to uh to be calling it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm just saying, can you think of something again, not
that is identity laden other than a ponytail where you
would be like that guy's voting for Kamala. I can't
ponytail guy.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think this is a minor thing, but I have
come across this. Uh maybe just because we work in media.
If you wear glasses as a fashion accessory, not because
you need them to see, like prescription glasses.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You're voting democrat, like I've never been. Mark Cuban now
looks like Rachel Maddow like that, not if you wear glasses.
If you wear glasses that you don't need for vision purposes,
like to help you see. I think there's a very
high it's a fashion accessory. At that point, you like
the way they look on you. I think you're a democrat.
Like Mark Cuban's new glasses. That's because he's gone full democrat.
(20:43):
I think Elon Musk said that he's now indistinguishable from
Rachel Maddow, which when you do put them side by side,
it is really funny how similar Mark Cuban and Rachel
Maddow look. I will say that Sunday Drop with Clay
and Buck, we are deluged.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The guys have opened up. The hail is hitting us
like the size of golf balls. Here with all of
your emails and talkbacks and everything on some of the
fun we're having. Look, we spent the first two hours
talking about the election and where we are today. If
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about the election today. We talked about now we're talking
about silliness. Jay in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Jay, you I
have to say you may have actually the best answer
and the clearest insight on this conundrum of all go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Absolutely, anyone who wears a mask nowadays is definitely voting
for Kamala, no question.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I think that may be.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think you get the prize if there was one.
I wish we had a prize, sorry, but we do
get to have you talk to everybody across the country.
Clay ninety nine point nine percent accuracy. I mean, that's
more accuracy than like most home pregnancy tests, you know
what I mean, Like, do you have a mask on
at this point you're voting Kamalo. It's that is a
great point.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I would be stunned if there is a Trump wearing
Trump voting mask wearer anywhere in the country right now.
I mean, I mean, honestly, I would just be like,
how is this possible? And I'm not talking like somebody
might be going through chemotherapy, right, you're so incredibly Sim's
talking about if you're if you're a lumberjack and you
(22:33):
don't want to inhale sawdust for your job. We're talking
talking about on an airplane and you are sitting there
in a mask. You are one hundred percent voting for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We've also got an I've got interested with Gerald in
Daytona Beach, a Floridian. What's going on? Gerald?
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Hey, this is a Daytona Beach nine and sunny down
here after the hurricanes. But last week was like Soberfest,
which is four days a motorcycle and ponytails. And I
wore my Trump hat. By the way, first day of
early voting was here yesterday and I went.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But I kind of did.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
A survey while I was walking down Main Street, which
had five hundred thousand bikers. One person, one person I
found that would vote for Kamala Harris. Everybody else love
the Trump hat and would vote Trump. We're all boot
collar workers and that's that we bought our bike.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Now, I would say, riding a motorcycle cancels out the ponytail. Well,
if you're a biker and you have a ponytail, it's
like if you were a Viking in the eight hundreds
and you have a ponytail.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Different situation, different situation.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Different situation than ponytail, ultimate frisbee or ponytail like weed
smoke or you.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Know, build from the office and accounting, we're talking about
if you walk around wearing birkenstocks with a ponytail, right,
that's a little different.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Man bun might be a better way to describe it now.
I don't even know if man buns are still a
thing they but Clay were for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What about samurais you know what I mean.
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