In this episode, Rep. Byron Donalds lays out why he’s running for Florida governor and the major issues driving his decision. He breaks down the state’s biggest challenges—from soaring insurance rates to rising affordability concerns—and explains why transparency on the Epstein files matters for public trust. Donalds also critiques Democratic political tactics, discusses the internal dynamics shaping today’s Republican Party, and outlines why motivating voters around economic realities will be crucial in the upcoming election cycle. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we've got Congressman Byron Donalds on the show. He is
the Trump endorsed front runner for Florida governor, my home
state here in Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We've got a lot to cover with him.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Today the House is going to be voting to force
the release of every remaining federal Epstein file within thirty days.
And we've already seen some new documents surface, particularly with
Jeffrey Epstein texting questions in real time to a Democratic
congresswoman who accepted his donations. So I'm going to ask
Congressman Byron Donalds about that. How will he be voting,
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What could we potentially find out in all of this. Also, affordability,
that's the buzzword you've been hearing about this election cycle.
I'm going to ask the congressman what he plans on
doing in Florida as governor, and also what Republicans can
do about the issue more broadly as we head into
the midterms.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He also just spoke to a packed house.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
At the University of Florida's Turning Point USA event. We
didn't do so great as Republicans with young voters nationwide
in the most recent election.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So what can we do about that?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
How concerned should we be all of that and more
with Congressman Byron Donald's stay tuned well, Congressman, it's great
to have you back on the show. I guess here
in the near future it'll probably be a governor.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Appreciate appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I know that. You know, running for office, particularly for governor,
is a busy job. So you're a busy man right now.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
A little busy. But it's good to be back with
you on your show. We have fun the last time.
I'm looking forward to the conversation again.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, and you'll be my governor as a Floridian, so
you know about that. Why why'd you decide to run?
You've been in Congress for a little bit, You've got
a you know, big profile there.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know why, Governor Well, I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Think it's now about taking our state to another level.
Governor Desanti's has done a great job. Rick Scott before
him did a great job for our state. And now
it's about preparing Florida for its future growth of future
economy while also maintaining the foundational conservative principles that have
made us the best state in America. We have people
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who are going to move to our state. We have
young people who want to build careers and continue to
afford Florida in our state. And my career, my banking
and finance background, coupled with my experience being in the
State House and now in the US House, I think
makes me uniquely positioned to lead Florida into the future.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, it is a tough state.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
We have a lot of natural disasters obviously, you know,
every hurricane season. You know, there are some issues with affordability,
some concerns among you know, Faridians. I've got skyrocketing property
insurance premiums, you know, housing shortage. Affordability is sort of
like the buzzword of the election cycle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
What can you do about it? As governor?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
A bunch of different things.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
One, you know, I really look forward to the governor
and releasing his proposal on home said property tax elimination.
I support that, want to see how he's going to
navigate the state in that direction. I look forward to
supporting his proposal. I think that's a big step forward.
Hopefully he and the legislature can get that done so
that the voters can vote on that next year.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Two.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Continuing to push down insurance rates in our state. The
reforms that were done around the legal system a couple
of years ago, we're a great start. We have to
be committed to those policies. We're going to stay consistent
with those policies and then think about other ways that
Florida can continue to push down insurance rates.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Three.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
One of the things that I'm focused on is reforming
all local government and statewide permitting and planning offices. They
have to be ruthlessly efficient. It can't take two years
to put a shovel on the ground, because that is
not going to help our state.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
In terms of affordability.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So, whenever you're constructing anything, if you are spending a
year in half to two years to get permits from government,
what that does it adds more cost to the overall development,
and that's always going to be borne by the consumer.
So those are three big areas where the state can
do meaningful things to help address the affordability issues of Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, recent Florida Atlantic University pool found that sixty eight
percent of Florida in state cost of living as top
concern you might get more New Yorkers heading down to
Florida as well after Mom Donnie's victory.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know you've been endorsed by President Trump obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know Governor DeSantis ran against President Trump unsuccessfully in
the primary. Do you feel like is there like a
turf war going on with this governor's race. Do you
feel like you're caught in the middle of it at
all or sort of what are you seeing as you
look at sort of the broader landscape and the political
landscape in the state.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, I mean, turf war might be a bit much.
I think right now the people are trying to figure
out if they can mount a campaign to rival my
campaign for governor, and that's part of the process. It
goes with the territory. We'll see what happens, and I
think some people are trying to figure out how they
can get in and get their footing. I think, broadly speaking,
I think, you know, when it comes to the governor,
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he's done a great job. I've been supportive of his
policy positions and what he's done for the state. I'm
going to build the state into the future. On top
of the work that he's done, We're going to keep
everything that he's done in place, and I think that
he and I have an opportunity to sit down and
just kind of go over things and have a really
broad discussion about how to move Florida into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I know he has been a great governor.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Obviously it wasn't there when Rick Scott was there, but
you know, I've heard good things about his time as well.
So we've been blessed to have, you know, some really
strong governors in the state. You know, today the House
is going to be voting because you're still there for
right now, so you've still got to deal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
With all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, you know they're going to be voting on the
Epstein files, on releasing the Epstein files. Essentially, what this
would do is, you know, force the immediate release of
all federal documents relating to jeffreyps in thirty days. The victims'
names would be redacted. How will you be voting, and like,
why has this taken so long?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What might be learned?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, I'm going to vote for the release. This is
something I've been on a record a couple times about this.
I'm going to vote for the release. I voted for
the oversight Committee proposal which allowed us to receive documents
from even the Epstein estate and begin to go through
those documents as well and release those, and that process
is all going. I do have concerns. The concern I
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have primarily is for the victims who do not want
to come forward. I think there are victims, obviously they've
been here on Capitol Hill who want everything released and
they've come forward about what was done to them, and
my heart goes out to them. But there are victims
that have not come forward, and actually they don't want
to have to go back through this. So whatever that
redaction looks like, it needs to be very thorough because
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you don't want somebody to essentially be outed. That's a
victim that has moved on with their life. They might
have kids now, a new relationship, a husband, family, and
you don't want them to have to go back and
relive this. And so that's the thing that I've always
thought about in this entire UH saga. But I mean
in terms of releasing, look, I think it's time for transparency.
(07:16):
So I'm going to vote to release the files and
we'll see where we go from here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, it's always a delicate dance with all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Like we've seen your colleague Thomas Massey say that he
is willing to name names on the House floor because
he would be insulated from you know, defamation lawsuits and
things of that nature. Like, I mean, I do believe
in due process, and so like if you name names
and they don't have you know, the proper avenue to
sort of like adjudicate it and to you know, correct
the record or you know, sort of force documentation or
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any sort of backing of that to prove it to
be true. I mean, like I feel like that's like
a little bit reckless. What's your sentiment of that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If you're a pedophile, Hey, you you victimized young women
and you have to read the world win of that,
you have to pay the consequences. But I also do
think there could be people in those files who did
not do anything, but now they're going to have to
defend themselves in the court of public opinion, and that
does kind of a road due process. Every American is
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afforded that, regardless of whatever you think of the circumstances
that might surround that person. And so this is a
new territory. This is new territory. For Congress. We've never
released criminal files ever in the history of the United
States of America. We've never done this, and so I
think that, you know, as this goes forward, my hope
is people kind of have cooler heads as these documents
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come out and try not to rush to judgment against
somebody who may not have done anything wrong, and or
try to leave the women alone who are victims who
just don't want to come forward. I think that's going
to be critical and this whole thing going forward.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, because I mean we saw with Brett Kavanaugh, you know,
sort of he was maliciously lied about and know we
had have a hearings and then it ended up that
Christine Ford was actually the one who had been lying.
But you know it's yeah, like I just you know,
I three brothers of a great dad. Like I just
I don't, you know, I don't believe we should just
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be able to smear men for the sake of it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, Listen, it takes years to build a reputation,
it takes a day to tear it to shreds. We
got to be really mindful about this, but I'm going
to vote for the release. But I think going forward,
we got to be really mindful about how this is
going to happen into.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
The future totally.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And then we found out, like, you know, weird things
like your colleague Democratic Representative Stacey Plaskett that she was
like texting with Jeffrey Epstein during a House Oversight Committee
hearing featuring testimony from Michael Cohen. And then this had
happened after Epstein was already a registered sex offender since
two thousand and eight, and he had donated to Plasket
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campaigns and owned properties in our US Virgin Islands district. Like,
I wonder what else like sort of weird things we're
gonna find Were you surprised to find that out?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Or had you known that prior? I hadn't heard that before.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
To be honest, I wasn't overly surprised because we've known
for a long time that the Democrats they have these
conduits into recesses of our government, recesses around the country,
where they weaponize information for political purposes. I mean, look,
what Stacey Plaskett did is that she was in cahoots
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with Epstein to try to get Donald Trump. I mean,
that's what the Democrats are spent the last decade doing
and it's disgusting, really, so I think members on the
Hill have been talking about do they want to bring
a central resolution because you had somebody getting texting with
Epstein to try to get the president of the United States.
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That's disgusting and it's wrong, and it's the weaponization of
government that voters across America.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You don't even have to be Mago or be a.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Republican, I think voters across the country are sick of this.
If you have the goods and the details and the
evidence on somebody, then bring your case. But to try
to manufacture evidence or try to collude with some of
the worst people like a Jeffrey Epstein to try to
get Donald Trump or forget Donald Trump for a moment
to try to get a political rival is obscene.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's reckless.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's part of the reason why Washington is so badly broken,
and that's why so many Americans are just starting to
just distrust politics writ large.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But it also sort of like perfectly sums up the
Democrat Party today, Like they hate President Trump so much
that they're willing to collude with the registered sex offender
to try to bring him down. Yet they're the virtuous
ones you know, it's like it's like they're willing to
burn the country down and like burn down due process
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and burn down the rule of law, and like burn
burn it all down because somehow stopping Trump is better
than you know, burning it down or working with a
registered sense of sex Vener, I mean, I feel like,
don't you feel like that? Just like perfectly kind of
sums up the Democrat Party today.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It does.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I mean, Democrats are the epitome of the ends justify
the means crowd. They will go to any lengths to
maintain political power. They will go to any lengths to
destroy somebody they believe is going to stop them from
accomplishing their agenda. Not just beat them in a political election,
not win a debate or an argument on the merits,
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I mean pure and outright destruction. That's how far the
Democrats have gone. And so, you know, as a conservative
who's been in the movement for fifteen years, the thing
that we always have to be mindful of as conservative
is that do we have to be tough. Absolutely, do
we have to fight back against the Democrats, Absolutely, But
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we also have to be mindful to not also become
the ends justify the means crowd, because that's actually how
you end up destroying the very republic that we want
to save.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Got to take a quick commercial break more with Congressman
Byron Donalds on the other side, do you think President
Trump took too long with you know, calling for transparency
with the Jeffrey Epstein because like obviously the Democrats, you know,
they smell blood in the water. I think at this
point we would know if there were anything, you know,
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deeply concerning with President Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I mean obviously he knew him. We all know
that a bunch of people knew him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
He was popular in wealthy circles in New York City, right.
Do you think it would have been better politically for
him to just, you know, kind of get this all
out in the open, or I mean, I don't know
what the backstory is there.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Look, I mean, I wish we just kind of got
this stuff out there and moved on. But I think
from if I'm a walk a moment in President Trump's shoes,
he's running the country. You know, when he came in
or came back, I should say, as the forty seventh president,
the country was a flat out mess. So he was
doing all the things he campaigned on closing the border,
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beginning deportations, trying to get us out of these conflicts,
bring some of these wars to a close, Strengthen the
United stings strength in the United States military, get recruitment up,
rebuild our economy. So he's doing all this work, but
the Democrats and the media and some of my colleagues
on the Republican side just want to talk about Epstein.
So I think he was more frustrated than anything. If
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I was in his shoes, I would be frustrated because
I would say, why are we talking about this when
I've been doing all these other things that I campaign
on to deliver for the American people. So I think
it was probably born out our frustration. We kind of
just got the things out there and moved on. But
I think people need to understand this Epstein saga. The
reason why it's become so big is because the Democrats
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were losing on every major policy issue facing the United States,
every single one, and it wasn't close. So they were
looking for something to fight Donald Trump on and they
chose this one. And so I'm glad we're going to
be voting in the House today. We'll get this thing
through and then we're going to move on and we're
going to get back to the business of making America
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great again.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You know, you spoke at a tp USA event recently
at the University of Florida. You know, we Republicans, we didn't,
you know, we had some losses with younger voters in
these recent elections. I guess I don't even know what
day it is. I'm on November fourth recently. I don't
even know how long ago that was. It's been traveling
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so much. And I'm sure you probably feel the same
way with all the stuff you've got going on. I'm
a little bit worried about this midterm election, only just
because you know, typically the president's party loses seats in
the House, and then I think Democrats have figured out that,
like they're really weird on some of these issues, and
so now they're kind of trying to focus on like
affordability and some of the bread and butter issues, and
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I just worry like they are motivated together to stop
President Trump, right, and like President Trump's not going to
be on the ballot this November. So I'm a little
bit worried about, like how do we motivate our people
to like get excited and to get out. Are we
doing enough? And like what should those issues be? Like
how do we get our people out?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I don't think we're doing it enough. To be with you,
I think that the.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Same angst and motivation that the political apparatus writ large
had in twenty twenty four, we don't have that same
level of urgency right now. I see it around me. Meanwhile,
the Democrats obviously are extremely motivated. I'll take the governor's
race in New Jersey. Jack Choudarelli had one hundred and
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fifty thousand more votes in this election than he had
four years ago. But Mikey Cheryl, somebody who you couldn't
even pick out of a lineup, had four hundred thousand
more Democrats show up to the polls. What that tells
me is is that Democrat voters are very motivated. So
we have to meet that head on. I think the
number one way we deal with that is being focused
on affordability. And I do agree with that. Because the
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Democrats broke the economy, they caused the inflation. Every kid
trying to figure out how they're going to buy a
home or buy a car. Every parent with kids, trying
to figure out how they're going to afford their insurance,
to put food on the table. All those issues were
caused by the Democrats. So as Republicans, we cannot let
the arsonists now become the fireman. Essentially, we got to
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take pride in our solutions to bring prices down. Gas
prices are down, Energy prices are coming down. Inflation rates
compared to the Biden and Harris inflation rates, they're down too.
Homeowners insurance rates are also down. I think what's also
going to happen by next year the President's agenda where
we cut taxes for middle income families all across America,
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no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax
on a large segment of Social Security. I think all
those tax policies are going to come home for people.
They're going to see that in their lives by the
time we get to the midterms. But we cannot give
up the mantle of fighting for lower prices and a
healthy economy and a strong job market for people. And sure,
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it's always the economy stupid, and I think that we
have to be uberly focused on that as we move forward.
Hands on deck approach, I think every race matters, every
message matters. It has to be about the American people
putting food on a table, keeping a roof over their head,
being able to afford the American dream. That's going to
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be the elections of twenty six. And the Democrats are
just going to lie and use socialism and communism like
Mamdani to say that they're going to provide all these things.
But they've never been able to do it. They've been
wrong every single time economically, and they're going to be
wrong in twenty six. Look, I'll give you an example. Obamacare.
The premiums are through the roof, and the Democrats argue
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for more subsidies, but the subsidies are not going to
fix the problem. The problem is their policy has allowed
health insurance premiums to triple, if not quadruple, over the
last decade. That's Democrat policy. They don't want to change it. Republicans,
we have to have a healthcare plan, a serious one
that brings down costs and has a market system that
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works for the American people. That's the type of urgency
we have to have as a party if we want
to win in twenty twenty six. Donald Trump is the
best Donald Trump is doing his job. Republicans can't just
rely on Donald Trump to carry us all across the
finish line every single time. It's not fair to him.
But more broadly, it's not fair to the American people.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, you're right, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's it's got to be frustrating because it's like, you know,
Democrats broke it, and then you know, we're trying to
fix it, and then you know, but then they're like,
it's like they broke the economy and then they're like
running on a board bility, it's like fixed what they broke,
you know. Or you look at places like in New
York City, I mean, Democrats have been in charge for
I think like eighteen years. I can't even remember forever,
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right since Bloomberg Guliani, yeah, or I think since or
I guess Bloomberg is a Democrat yees since, So it's
been forever in New York City, and you know, but
then they're instead of realizing that, like, Okay, maybe we
need some changes here, it's like they're going they're the
triple down with the socialists, who's going to ruin this city?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Even more?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do you think that that is instructive of just like
a very liberal city, which is New York City, or
do you think that that is the direction that the
Democrat Party is heading in? More broadly speaking, like this socialism,
this embrace of socialism.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well will the Democrats are definitely going down the road
of democratic socialism, which really is communism. I mean, even
if you look back at what the Communists were saying
one hundred years ago in America, they knew they couldn't
win as communists, so they started calling themselves democratic socialists.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So that's who they are.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I think the broader thing is if you take
New York, a lot of Republicans, a lot of common
sense people. They came to Florida, they went to Tennessee,
they went to the Carolinas. They left New York because
of terrible policy. I think also if you look at
the election of Mom Donnie. Yeah, Mom Donnie had a
little bit over fifty percent of the vote or whatever
the final total was, but he was running against Andrew Qualma,
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I mean Andrew Cuomo. His policy led to the death
of senior citizens in nursing homes during COVID nineteen. He's
not the greatest candidate in the world.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And you know, no.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Disrespect to Curtis Sliwa, but Curtis Sleiewa was just not
going to resonate with New York today. It just wasn't
going to happen. So I think the Mamdani phenomena is
in part the Democrats long march to Marxist policies, calling
it Democrats socialism, but it's Marxism, that's what it is.
But number two, he also wasn't challenged by a young,
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vibrant Conservative who believes in sound economics, sound business principles,
law and order, safety and security, better schools for young
people so they can be economically viable. And I think
if we actually have that deck on an election stage,
I think a Republican wins ten out of ten.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now in Congressman before we go there seems to be
at least online, so you know, who knows if this
plays out in the real world. But there seems a
lot of fracturing in the Republican Party. I guess I
didn't really realize how much of a glued Charley Kirk
seemed to be in the Republican Party and sort of
keeping everyone together. And then sadly, since it's passing, it's
like everyone's at each other's throats, and it's like there's
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already sort of this fight for twenty twenty in the
presidential election, it seems, and like accusations flying. You know.
We saw the whole thing with Heritage and Tucker, you know,
and it's like everyone's just at each other's throats, Like
how do we keep the Republican coalition together. I'm just
I'm a little bit worried at an election cycle where
it's already going to be tough and then we're fractured,
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Like how do we pull this thing together?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I believe we have to be united by principle. That's
what our party has always been, our movement. Really to
a broader degree, we've always been aligned by principle. The
Democrats are. They are a fraction of a fractional party.
They have these various segments that all believe different things,
but they know the only way to accomplish it all
is to stay together, and that's what they do. Our
party is not that way. Our party is based upon
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a strong set of ideals. Republicans are the party that
was formed to free the slaves. We are the party
that always supportes civil rights. We are the party that
supports legal immigration. We are the party that supports controlled
immigration that can actually have people assimilate into the American
way of life based on Western civilization and Judeo Christian values.
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We're a party based upon merit and opportunity. That's who
we are as a party. We're a party of free
speech and free expression and yes, some organizing, but that's
who we are. And I think as long as we
say committed to that, a party based upon capitalism, not cronyism,
not corporatism, and not other policies like that, we are
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a capitalist party.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's who we are. We're a capitalist movement.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
We believe in the free exchange of not just ideas,
but the free exchange of labor for value. That's the
bedrock principles of what we are and I think as
long as we stay tied to those principles, our movement
will be just fine. I agree with you that I'm
a little concerned about some of this fragmentation. I think
a lot of this is the positioning for future elected office,
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but in the wake of Charlie's assassination, it's also in
part trying to grab the wheel of the void that
his assassination has created. And I think that, you know,
voices in our movement are in the voices in the
general movement who are now trying to point fingers at
Israel or trying to point fingers at people who've immigrated
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legally to the United States. I think that's wrong. Israel's
our ally. We should stand behind them. It doesn't mean
we don't. We agree with everything that Bibnet and Yahoo does,
But I'll tell you this, I'd rather stand with Israel
than stand with utter chaos in the the least. Definitely
not going to stand with the Iranian regime. They're crazy
and they want to see a demise of the United
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States and a demise of Western civilization. So I think
we just have to be very clear about where we stand.
I think people who decide that that's not good enough
for them, I don't know what to tell them, But
I would tell those folks who are really concerned about
their economic futures and looking for somebody to blame or
old accountable, the best thing to do, in my opinion,
is to stay committed to the principles of liberty, the
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principles of freedom, the principles of strong capitalistic economic growth,
because those principles are what allow most people to thrive.
And that's what it will allow the United States to
continue to thrive, not just for another couple of years
before another two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, Congressman Byron Donalds will leave it right there.
Appreciate you for making the time, sir, Thank you so much.
Always great to catch up with you.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Always take it easy.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That was Congressman Byron Donalds. Appreciate him for taking the
time to come on the show. Appreciate you guys at
home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can
listen throughout the week. Also one of things, John Cassio
and my producer for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Until next time.
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we've got Congressman Byron Donalds on the show. He is
the Trump endorsed front runner for Florida governor, my home
state here in Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We've got a lot to cover with him.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Today the House is going to be voting to force
the release of every remaining federal Epstein file within thirty days.
And we've already seen some new documents surface, particularly with
Jeffrey Epstein texting questions in real time to a Democratic
congresswoman who accepted his donations. So I'm going to ask
Congressman Byron Donalds about that. How will he be voting,
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What could we potentially find out in all of this. Also, affordability,
that's the buzzword you've been hearing about this election cycle.
I'm going to ask the congressman what he plans on
doing in Florida as governor, and also what Republicans can
do about the issue more broadly as we head into
the midterms.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He also just spoke to a packed house.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
At the University of Florida's Turning Point USA event. We
didn't do so great as Republicans with young voters nationwide
in the most recent election.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So what can we do about that?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
How concerned should we be all of that and more
with Congressman Byron Donald's stay tuned well, Congressman, it's great
to have you back on the show. I guess here
in the near future it'll probably be a governor.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Appreciate appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I know that. You know, running for office, particularly for governor,
is a busy job. So you're a busy man right now.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
A little busy. But it's good to be back with
you on your show. We have fun the last time.
I'm looking forward to the conversation again.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, and you'll be my governor as a Floridian, so
you know about that. Why why'd you decide to run?
You've been in Congress for a little bit, You've got
a you know, big profile there.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know why, Governor Well, I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Think it's now about taking our state to another level.
Governor Desanti's has done a great job. Rick Scott before
him did a great job for our state. And now
it's about preparing Florida for its future growth of future
economy while also maintaining the foundational conservative principles that have
made us the best state in America. We have people
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who are going to move to our state. We have
young people who want to build careers and continue to
afford Florida in our state. And my career, my banking
and finance background, coupled with my experience being in the
State House and now in the US House, I think
makes me uniquely positioned to lead Florida into the future.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You know, it is a tough state.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
We have a lot of natural disasters obviously, you know,
every hurricane season. You know, there are some issues with affordability,
some concerns among you know, Faridians. I've got skyrocketing property
insurance premiums, you know, housing shortage. Affordability is sort of
like the buzzword of the election cycle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
What can you do about it? As governor?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
A bunch of different things.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
One, you know, I really look forward to the governor
and releasing his proposal on home said property tax elimination.
I support that, want to see how he's going to
navigate the state in that direction. I look forward to
supporting his proposal. I think that's a big step forward.
Hopefully he and the legislature can get that done so
that the voters can vote on that next year.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Two.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Continuing to push down insurance rates in our state. The
reforms that were done around the legal system a couple
of years ago, we're a great start. We have to
be committed to those policies. We're going to stay consistent
with those policies and then think about other ways that
Florida can continue to push down insurance rates.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Three.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
One of the things that I'm focused on is reforming
all local government and statewide permitting and planning offices. They
have to be ruthlessly efficient. It can't take two years
to put a shovel on the ground, because that is
not going to help our state.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
In terms of affordability.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So, whenever you're constructing anything, if you are spending a
year in half to two years to get permits from government,
what that does it adds more cost to the overall development,
and that's always going to be borne by the consumer.
So those are three big areas where the state can
do meaningful things to help address the affordability issues of Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, recent Florida Atlantic University pool found that sixty eight
percent of Florida in state cost of living as top
concern you might get more New Yorkers heading down to
Florida as well after Mom Donnie's victory.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know you've been endorsed by President Trump obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know Governor DeSantis ran against President Trump unsuccessfully in
the primary. Do you feel like is there like a
turf war going on with this governor's race. Do you
feel like you're caught in the middle of it at
all or sort of what are you seeing as you
look at sort of the broader landscape and the political
landscape in the state.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, I mean, turf war might be a bit much.
I think right now the people are trying to figure
out if they can mount a campaign to rival my
campaign for governor, and that's part of the process. It
goes with the territory. We'll see what happens, and I
think some people are trying to figure out how they
can get in and get their footing. I think, broadly speaking,
I think, you know, when it comes to the governor,
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he's done a great job. I've been supportive of his
policy positions and what he's done for the state. I'm
going to build the state into the future. On top
of the work that he's done, We're going to keep
everything that he's done in place, and I think that
he and I have an opportunity to sit down and
just kind of go over things and have a really
broad discussion about how to move Florida into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I know he has been a great governor.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Obviously it wasn't there when Rick Scott was there, but
you know, I've heard good things about his time as well.
So we've been blessed to have, you know, some really
strong governors in the state. You know, today the House
is going to be voting because you're still there for
right now, so you've still got to deal.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
With all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, you know they're going to be voting on the
Epstein files, on releasing the Epstein files. Essentially, what this
would do is, you know, force the immediate release of
all federal documents relating to jeffreyps in thirty days. The victims'
names would be redacted. How will you be voting, and like,
why has this taken so long?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What might be learned?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, I'm going to vote for the release. This is
something I've been on a record a couple times about this.
I'm going to vote for the release. I voted for
the oversight Committee proposal which allowed us to receive documents
from even the Epstein estate and begin to go through
those documents as well and release those, and that process
is all going. I do have concerns. The concern I
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have primarily is for the victims who do not want
to come forward. I think there are victims, obviously they've
been here on Capitol Hill who want everything released and
they've come forward about what was done to them, and
my heart goes out to them. But there are victims
that have not come forward, and actually they don't want
to have to go back through this. So whatever that
redaction looks like, it needs to be very thorough because
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you don't want somebody to essentially be outed. That's a
victim that has moved on with their life. They might
have kids now, a new relationship, a husband, family, and
you don't want them to have to go back and
relive this. And so that's the thing that I've always
thought about in this entire UH saga. But I mean
in terms of releasing, look, I think it's time for transparency.
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So I'm going to vote to release the files and
we'll see where we go from here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, it's always a delicate dance with all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Like we've seen your colleague Thomas Massey say that he
is willing to name names on the House floor because
he would be insulated from you know, defamation lawsuits and
things of that nature. Like, I mean, I do believe
in due process, and so like if you name names
and they don't have you know, the proper avenue to
sort of like adjudicate it and to you know, correct
the record or you know, sort of force documentation or
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any sort of backing of that to prove it to
be true. I mean, like I feel like that's like
a little bit reckless. What's your sentiment of that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If you're a pedophile, Hey, you you victimized young women
and you have to read the world win of that,
you have to pay the consequences. But I also do
think there could be people in those files who did
not do anything, but now they're going to have to
defend themselves in the court of public opinion, and that
does kind of a road due process. Every American is
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afforded that, regardless of whatever you think of the circumstances
that might surround that person. And so this is a
new territory. This is new territory. For Congress. We've never
released criminal files ever in the history of the United
States of America. We've never done this, and so I
think that, you know, as this goes forward, my hope
is people kind of have cooler heads as these documents
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come out and try not to rush to judgment against
somebody who may not have done anything wrong, and or
try to leave the women alone who are victims who
just don't want to come forward. I think that's going
to be critical and this whole thing going forward.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, because I mean we saw with Brett Kavanaugh, you know,
sort of he was maliciously lied about and know we
had have a hearings and then it ended up that
Christine Ford was actually the one who had been lying.
But you know it's yeah, like I just you know,
I three brothers of a great dad. Like I just
I don't, you know, I don't believe we should just
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be able to smear men for the sake of it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, Listen, it takes years to build a reputation,
it takes a day to tear it to shreds. We
got to be really mindful about this, but I'm going
to vote for the release. But I think going forward,
we got to be really mindful about how this is
going to happen into.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
The future totally.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And then we found out, like, you know, weird things
like your colleague Democratic Representative Stacey Plaskett that she was
like texting with Jeffrey Epstein during a House Oversight Committee
hearing featuring testimony from Michael Cohen. And then this had
happened after Epstein was already a registered sex offender since
two thousand and eight, and he had donated to Plasket
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campaigns and owned properties in our US Virgin Islands district. Like,
I wonder what else like sort of weird things we're
gonna find Were you surprised to find that out?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Or had you known that prior? I hadn't heard that before.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
To be honest, I wasn't overly surprised because we've known
for a long time that the Democrats they have these
conduits into recesses of our government, recesses around the country,
where they weaponize information for political purposes. I mean, look,
what Stacey Plaskett did is that she was in cahoots
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with Epstein to try to get Donald Trump. I mean,
that's what the Democrats are spent the last decade doing
and it's disgusting, really, so I think members on the
Hill have been talking about do they want to bring
a central resolution because you had somebody getting texting with
Epstein to try to get the president of the United States.
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That's disgusting and it's wrong, and it's the weaponization of
government that voters across America.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You don't even have to be Mago or be a.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Republican, I think voters across the country are sick of this.
If you have the goods and the details and the
evidence on somebody, then bring your case. But to try
to manufacture evidence or try to collude with some of
the worst people like a Jeffrey Epstein to try to
get Donald Trump or forget Donald Trump for a moment
to try to get a political rival is obscene.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's reckless.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's part of the reason why Washington is so badly broken,
and that's why so many Americans are just starting to
just distrust politics writ large.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But it also sort of like perfectly sums up the
Democrat Party today, Like they hate President Trump so much
that they're willing to collude with the registered sex offender
to try to bring him down. Yet they're the virtuous
ones you know, it's like it's like they're willing to
burn the country down and like burn down due process
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and burn down the rule of law, and like burn
burn it all down because somehow stopping Trump is better
than you know, burning it down or working with a
registered sense of sex Vener, I mean, I feel like,
don't you feel like that? Just like perfectly kind of
sums up the Democrat Party today.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It does.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I mean, Democrats are the epitome of the ends justify
the means crowd. They will go to any lengths to
maintain political power. They will go to any lengths to
destroy somebody they believe is going to stop them from
accomplishing their agenda. Not just beat them in a political election,
not win a debate or an argument on the merits,
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I mean pure and outright destruction. That's how far the
Democrats have gone. And so, you know, as a conservative
who's been in the movement for fifteen years, the thing
that we always have to be mindful of as conservative
is that do we have to be tough. Absolutely, do
we have to fight back against the Democrats, Absolutely, But
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we also have to be mindful to not also become
the ends justify the means crowd, because that's actually how
you end up destroying the very republic that we want
to save.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Got to take a quick commercial break more with Congressman
Byron Donalds on the other side, do you think President
Trump took too long with you know, calling for transparency
with the Jeffrey Epstein because like obviously the Democrats, you know,
they smell blood in the water. I think at this
point we would know if there were anything, you know,
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deeply concerning with President Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I mean obviously he knew him. We all know
that a bunch of people knew him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
He was popular in wealthy circles in New York City, right.
Do you think it would have been better politically for
him to just, you know, kind of get this all
out in the open, or I mean, I don't know
what the backstory is there.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Look, I mean, I wish we just kind of got
this stuff out there and moved on. But I think
from if I'm a walk a moment in President Trump's shoes,
he's running the country. You know, when he came in
or came back, I should say, as the forty seventh president,
the country was a flat out mess. So he was
doing all the things he campaigned on closing the border,
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beginning deportations, trying to get us out of these conflicts,
bring some of these wars to a close, Strengthen the
United stings strength in the United States military, get recruitment up,
rebuild our economy. So he's doing all this work, but
the Democrats and the media and some of my colleagues
on the Republican side just want to talk about Epstein.
So I think he was more frustrated than anything. If
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I was in his shoes, I would be frustrated because
I would say, why are we talking about this when
I've been doing all these other things that I campaign
on to deliver for the American people. So I think
it was probably born out our frustration. We kind of
just got the things out there and moved on. But
I think people need to understand this Epstein saga. The
reason why it's become so big is because the Democrats
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were losing on every major policy issue facing the United States,
every single one, and it wasn't close. So they were
looking for something to fight Donald Trump on and they
chose this one. And so I'm glad we're going to
be voting in the House today. We'll get this thing
through and then we're going to move on and we're
going to get back to the business of making America
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great again.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You know, you spoke at a tp USA event recently
at the University of Florida. You know, we Republicans, we didn't,
you know, we had some losses with younger voters in
these recent elections. I guess I don't even know what
day it is. I'm on November fourth recently. I don't
even know how long ago that was. It's been traveling
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so much. And I'm sure you probably feel the same
way with all the stuff you've got going on. I'm
a little bit worried about this midterm election, only just
because you know, typically the president's party loses seats in
the House, and then I think Democrats have figured out that,
like they're really weird on some of these issues, and
so now they're kind of trying to focus on like
affordability and some of the bread and butter issues, and
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I just worry like they are motivated together to stop
President Trump, right, and like President Trump's not going to
be on the ballot this November. So I'm a little
bit worried about, like how do we motivate our people
to like get excited and to get out. Are we
doing enough? And like what should those issues be? Like
how do we get our people out?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I don't think we're doing it enough. To be with you,
I think that the.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Same angst and motivation that the political apparatus writ large
had in twenty twenty four, we don't have that same
level of urgency right now. I see it around me. Meanwhile,
the Democrats obviously are extremely motivated. I'll take the governor's
race in New Jersey. Jack Choudarelli had one hundred and
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fifty thousand more votes in this election than he had
four years ago. But Mikey Cheryl, somebody who you couldn't
even pick out of a lineup, had four hundred thousand
more Democrats show up to the polls. What that tells
me is is that Democrat voters are very motivated. So
we have to meet that head on. I think the
number one way we deal with that is being focused
on affordability. And I do agree with that. Because the
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Democrats broke the economy, they caused the inflation. Every kid
trying to figure out how they're going to buy a
home or buy a car. Every parent with kids, trying
to figure out how they're going to afford their insurance,
to put food on the table. All those issues were
caused by the Democrats. So as Republicans, we cannot let
the arsonists now become the fireman. Essentially, we got to
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take pride in our solutions to bring prices down. Gas
prices are down, Energy prices are coming down. Inflation rates
compared to the Biden and Harris inflation rates, they're down too.
Homeowners insurance rates are also down. I think what's also
going to happen by next year the President's agenda where
we cut taxes for middle income families all across America,
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no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax
on a large segment of Social Security. I think all
those tax policies are going to come home for people.
They're going to see that in their lives by the
time we get to the midterms. But we cannot give
up the mantle of fighting for lower prices and a
healthy economy and a strong job market for people. And sure,
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it's always the economy stupid, and I think that we
have to be uberly focused on that as we move forward.
Hands on deck approach, I think every race matters, every
message matters. It has to be about the American people
putting food on a table, keeping a roof over their head,
being able to afford the American dream. That's going to
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be the elections of twenty six. And the Democrats are
just going to lie and use socialism and communism like
Mamdani to say that they're going to provide all these things.
But they've never been able to do it. They've been
wrong every single time economically, and they're going to be
wrong in twenty six. Look, I'll give you an example. Obamacare.
The premiums are through the roof, and the Democrats argue
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for more subsidies, but the subsidies are not going to
fix the problem. The problem is their policy has allowed
health insurance premiums to triple, if not quadruple, over the
last decade. That's Democrat policy. They don't want to change it. Republicans,
we have to have a healthcare plan, a serious one
that brings down costs and has a market system that
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works for the American people. That's the type of urgency
we have to have as a party if we want
to win in twenty twenty six. Donald Trump is the
best Donald Trump is doing his job. Republicans can't just
rely on Donald Trump to carry us all across the
finish line every single time. It's not fair to him.
But more broadly, it's not fair to the American people.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, you're right, it is.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's it's got to be frustrating because it's like, you know,
Democrats broke it, and then you know, we're trying to
fix it, and then you know, but then they're like,
it's like they broke the economy and then they're like
running on a board bility, it's like fixed what they broke,
you know. Or you look at places like in New
York City, I mean, Democrats have been in charge for
I think like eighteen years. I can't even remember forever,
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right since Bloomberg Guliani, yeah, or I think since or
I guess Bloomberg is a Democrat yees since, So it's
been forever in New York City, and you know, but
then they're instead of realizing that, like, Okay, maybe we
need some changes here, it's like they're going they're the
triple down with the socialists, who's going to ruin this city?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Even more?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do you think that that is instructive of just like
a very liberal city, which is New York City, or
do you think that that is the direction that the
Democrat Party is heading in? More broadly speaking, like this socialism,
this embrace of socialism.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well will the Democrats are definitely going down the road
of democratic socialism, which really is communism. I mean, even
if you look back at what the Communists were saying
one hundred years ago in America, they knew they couldn't
win as communists, so they started calling themselves democratic socialists.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So that's who they are.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I think the broader thing is if you take
New York, a lot of Republicans, a lot of common
sense people. They came to Florida, they went to Tennessee,
they went to the Carolinas. They left New York because
of terrible policy. I think also if you look at
the election of Mom Donnie. Yeah, Mom Donnie had a
little bit over fifty percent of the vote or whatever
the final total was, but he was running against Andrew Qualma,
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I mean Andrew Cuomo. His policy led to the death
of senior citizens in nursing homes during COVID nineteen. He's
not the greatest candidate in the world.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And you know, no.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Disrespect to Curtis Sliwa, but Curtis Sleiewa was just not
going to resonate with New York today. It just wasn't
going to happen. So I think the Mamdani phenomena is
in part the Democrats long march to Marxist policies, calling
it Democrats socialism, but it's Marxism, that's what it is.
But number two, he also wasn't challenged by a young,
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vibrant Conservative who believes in sound economics, sound business principles,
law and order, safety and security, better schools for young
people so they can be economically viable. And I think
if we actually have that deck on an election stage,
I think a Republican wins ten out of ten.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now in Congressman before we go there seems to be
at least online, so you know, who knows if this
plays out in the real world. But there seems a
lot of fracturing in the Republican Party. I guess I
didn't really realize how much of a glued Charley Kirk
seemed to be in the Republican Party and sort of
keeping everyone together. And then sadly, since it's passing, it's
like everyone's at each other's throats, and it's like there's
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already sort of this fight for twenty twenty in the
presidential election, it seems, and like accusations flying. You know.
We saw the whole thing with Heritage and Tucker, you know,
and it's like everyone's just at each other's throats, Like
how do we keep the Republican coalition together. I'm just
I'm a little bit worried at an election cycle where
it's already going to be tough and then we're fractured,
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Like how do we pull this thing together?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I believe we have to be united by principle. That's
what our party has always been, our movement. Really to
a broader degree, we've always been aligned by principle. The
Democrats are. They are a fraction of a fractional party.
They have these various segments that all believe different things,
but they know the only way to accomplish it all
is to stay together, and that's what they do. Our
party is not that way. Our party is based upon
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a strong set of ideals. Republicans are the party that
was formed to free the slaves. We are the party
that always supportes civil rights. We are the party that
supports legal immigration. We are the party that supports controlled
immigration that can actually have people assimilate into the American
way of life based on Western civilization and Judeo Christian values.
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We're a party based upon merit and opportunity. That's who
we are as a party. We're a party of free
speech and free expression and yes, some organizing, but that's
who we are. And I think as long as we
say committed to that, a party based upon capitalism, not cronyism,
not corporatism, and not other policies like that, we are
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a capitalist party.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's who we are. We're a capitalist movement.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
We believe in the free exchange of not just ideas,
but the free exchange of labor for value. That's the
bedrock principles of what we are and I think as
long as we stay tied to those principles, our movement
will be just fine. I agree with you that I'm
a little concerned about some of this fragmentation. I think
a lot of this is the positioning for future elected office,
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but in the wake of Charlie's assassination, it's also in
part trying to grab the wheel of the void that
his assassination has created. And I think that, you know,
voices in our movement are in the voices in the
general movement who are now trying to point fingers at
Israel or trying to point fingers at people who've immigrated
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legally to the United States. I think that's wrong. Israel's
our ally. We should stand behind them. It doesn't mean
we don't. We agree with everything that Bibnet and Yahoo does,
But I'll tell you this, I'd rather stand with Israel
than stand with utter chaos in the the least. Definitely
not going to stand with the Iranian regime. They're crazy
and they want to see a demise of the United
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States and a demise of Western civilization. So I think
we just have to be very clear about where we stand.
I think people who decide that that's not good enough
for them, I don't know what to tell them, But
I would tell those folks who are really concerned about
their economic futures and looking for somebody to blame or
old accountable, the best thing to do, in my opinion,
is to stay committed to the principles of liberty, the
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principles of freedom, the principles of strong capitalistic economic growth,
because those principles are what allow most people to thrive.
And that's what it will allow the United States to
continue to thrive, not just for another couple of years
before another two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, Congressman Byron Donalds will leave it right there.
Appreciate you for making the time, sir, Thank you so much.
Always great to catch up with you.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Always take it easy.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That was Congressman Byron Donalds. Appreciate him for taking the
time to come on the show. Appreciate you guys at
home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can
listen throughout the week. Also one of things, John Cassio
and my producer for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Until next time.
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